@Alexander Supertramp It's true that a better violin is better, I mean a Stradivarius is way better than my baby (sorry my precious but you're still the best in my heart). But it's also true that an "average" violin can sound way better depending on who plays it.
for anyone who doesn't understand why they're being so careful with their bows, its because each of their bows probably cost around anywhere from $150 - $1000. Probably more, actually, as $300- $800 would be just a cheap student bow.
their bows are probably even more expensive than that... idk if I'm just a "idgaf" guy about the things i bought for myself or something but I bought a cheap e guitar for 150€ (that's the most money I've ever spent on luxury stuff...I don't have a lot of money) and I'm obviously not throwing it around like a weird m o n k e but if i bonk it against my desk or chair and there's a new dent in it I don't really care because...well even tho it's a lot of money for me...this is the lowest end of a playable electric guitar. Now. If this guitar would be 15,000€ (I doubt their bows are THAT much but this is for demonstration as well for a different instrument lol) I'd honestly stand in the middle of my room, away from any kind of bonk-able surface that could dent my guitar and I'd be scared to even scratch the pickguard by accident, even tho...it's there to catch scratches that would otherwhise scratch the actual finish of the guitar
"When choosing between color and colour, keep in mind that both spellings are correct. The shorter one, color, is the preferred spelling in the United States. The rest of the English-speaking world uses the longer form, colour."
This actually makes me feel bad. There are a lot of families out there to whom 60$ is no laughing matter. Imagine you're trying to make your kid happy by buying them a violin just to end up with a boxful of plastic horrors instead.
For my 10th birthday I got a turquoise violin from my dad. Later I looked on amazon history and discovered it was around 70 dollars, the same violin they got but a different color. I no longer blamed myself for snapping 3 strings and all the pegs coming out and all the hair on my bow unloosening. I learned that it wasn't my beginner's playing when I practiced on my schools violin and to my surprise, nothing broke. Moral of the story: Violins are expensive for a reason.
Buying from a reputable dealer (ie. a real music store or strings shop) is important. When my son started playing, I got him an $80 1/2 size violin (case/bow/rosin included). Granted, this was 12 years ago, but we bought it from the music shop in our small town. They measured my son to order the correct size because the 'orchestra' teacher wanted my son to get a full sized violin so it would be louder. There are many stories about that 'orchestra' and that teacher, but that was an awesome first violin. 12 years later and my son in minoring in music/violin performance, has a composite bow (he picked out) that plays the equivalent to a $1000 wood bow and was gifted a nice violin from a friend who used to be an excellent player through her 20s but sold her $5000 violin because she needed the money. She bought a 'cheap' $400 violin 30 years ago because she felt bad not owning a violin but couldn't play it because the sound quality was so much worse. That 'cheap' violin got him to all-state orchestra in high school and a performing arts scholarship in college.
@@miwir1248 but I think Olaf can comment more on these violins. Like the quality and cut of the wood, the bowhair, the pegs, the bow, and how each, and also the sacrilegious accessories will affect the physics of sound production. Idk. Might be interesting and educational as well :) Maybe this vid can have a part 2 with Olaf. Money they spent on these amazon purchases is still money, might as well do another episode 😅
@@是高恩啊 they got paid more if you watch the ads more than 30 seconds or until the end, whichever is shorter! If you don't want to watch for 30 secs you can also click on the links on the ads and they'll get paid. This is why views aren't a good indicator of how much they earn!
My Dad bought the same viola on Amazon! One of the strings snapped in my face when I tried to tune it. After we tossed it, I asked him if he read the reviews before purchasing. He turned to me with this befuddled look on his face and asked, "What reviews?"
My violin is legit around 69-75$ (which is around one million in my country, and it does look like the 69$ monstrosity on the video, except my bridge is on. The case is also looking like a viola case.
Lol, in my elementary school orchestra, I was concert master. Half the people couldn’t tune their violins, and I had to tune it for them... the violins I have come across... unspeakable...
Dude, i feel you. I had just the same situation, and i'm still in elementary music school, and there we have like a school orchestra and because no one knew how to tune their violin i had to do it and the sounds of that violins was truly horrible...
me who just got a $250 violin because it’s the only one I could afford... at least it’s better than the $60 one I got for christmas and I had to learn how to play on it
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I can relate but i mean im learning new things about the violin by watching these guys cuz i didnt even know what a bridge once till they showed it lmao
The Gamist saves up life savings for a thing you wanted your whole life and buys it except theres nothing and it never arrives and you got scammed y o u g e t w h a t y o u g e t
Those prices are honestly insane. 500k to 10m for a soloist violin meanwhile an antique 1888 Antonio de Torres( the most famous classical guitar maker) guitar in perfectly restored condition is 275k
Well, that's exactly what is going to happen to me. I asked for a violin worth 35€. I guess I shouldn't have watched this video in the first place, because my excitement was destroyed from the very beginning.
@@ΘωμάςΒαραδάς in all honesty man as a complete beginner it will be fine, you can practice technique and get a feel for holding the instrument and bow, and the tone isn’t good but at least you can get sound out of it. Just enjoy it for what it is, if your family can’t afford a good violin then you can take music class through school and play violin, you will get a loan violin that you can keep and play. Point is if you really want to play violin and love the instrument you will make use of this violin.
i know you two will never see this, but seriously thank yall for the past couple years. i loved watching your videos through rough times and during my music journey, and i really hope whatever your doing now is beneficial to your health, as fans that’s what we truly care about, yall are still people. please take care, and thank you for the memories.
I do own a 70USD violin, other than E string, everything sounds normal (normal for my level), gonna upgrade to 2000USD one soon. 70USD to start a new hobby and examine if you can keep this hobby or not is worthy I think.
Let me tell you my funny story! I never played violin. I play guitar, mandolin and piano. When my granpa passed away, he gave me his violin. I did not play for a year. When i finally decided to play, it was out of tune. I watched a vid on youtube to get the right note and the fricking bridge flew right across the room! I cried 3 night straight! Thinking I had broken a violin who was passed on for 6 generations! Saved over a 1000$ to get it repaired and the artisan(yes he builds violin as a passion & knows everything about wood based instruments) He laughed so hard at me and explained that it was not glued on the violin lolll He fixed it without charging me and showed me how to tune it🤦 I took that money and bought myself a cheap violin to start practicing! Im never touching that violin again until i 100% know how to play😂
bridges are not supposed to be glued down. it relies on the tension of the strings, placement, and angle. dont recommend gluing it down... you should take it to a local luthier.
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i love how gentle they are with the instrument because i thought maybe i was just overreacting when i had to do thing with my viola that i didn’t feel comfortable doing because i thought it would break. just proves how i’m just caring about my instrument not overreacting 😭 love u guys
@@LeoWolfish It wouldn't be worth it even if you were able to fix the bridges, bows, pegs, etc. All of that DIY would cost much more than those abominations are worth. Even after the "renovations" the instruments would still stink, look gawdy, and sound quiet or altogether awful.
@@matteisenberg7496 Some schools/tutors rent out instruments for the term, or buy secondhand instruments back from graduates to sell cheaply to new students. Would either be feasible in your workplace?
I bought my cello off of eBay about 20 years ago for $350, just to putter and teach myself. When I got a proper teacher she couldn’t believe it was that cheap an instrument. It was a student grade to be sure, but totally playable, and has a pretty good tone. Best 350 I ever spent.
I was a painter and this reminds me of the utter crap peddled to beginner watercolorists... it's sad that these companies prey on potential learners and prevent them ever learning at all
@@zarsiw lmao it's one of my old illustrations and I set it as my avatar for a laugh and never changed it back. (On Discord I have a portrait from the same series except it's Ichimatsu and he's unshaven and looks like he hasn't sleep in days)
To be fair. Watercolor is more about skill than the material. I've seen people make good art with their coffee or blood lmao. Of course, preservations is where it gets expensive. More expensive materials just last longer. Value also rise up with expensive materials. This is a different though. Can't get good with a cheap violin if it's unplayable. I've seen pros try to play with a cheap violins and made it playable, but only because they immediately know what's wrong with it and how to adjust to it.
Don't be discouraged. Work with what u have. My first sax is Chinese maid. I told myself when the expensive one's is not accessible to me, this sax is therefore making it the best sax for my learning.
I am playing and performing on a sprektrum of instruments and I gotta say something for beginners: If you are unsure about wether or not you stick to the instrument. Go and rent a professionally made instrument! They are usually in amazing shape and fixed up to make your journey most pleasant. I did this with my flute when I was a kid, the piano and now with a Cello (I started learning two weeks ago. (Yes, I play 4 instruments^^) If you love the sound of an instrument don't waste money and nerves on poorly made things and if you end up realizing that the particular instrument isn't for you, you can give it back and someone else is being able to learn on it. ;)
Anderson Choi “oh hey, you sent the product over to amazon right?” “Yeah, this is going to help so many violinists out there” “violinists? This is supposed to be for archers!” “YOU SAID IT WAS FOR BOWS ITS NOT MY FAULT”
the fact that it costs $50,000 for a "professional" violin is just so sad ... so many talented people would never be able to afford one. I think this is also part of the reason why the classical music scene is filled with mostly upper class people. I'm not criticizing people for having money, but damn, I know it does not cost even close to $50,000 to produce a violin lol. Just seems over the top in terms of pricing. I'm a professional guitarist and the cost of each of my guitars varies from $800 - $2500. $2500 would be considered a "professional build", but in actually the additional cost is mostly for the prestige (e.g. the headstock logo showing up as "Gibson Les Paul" vs a "Gibson Les Paul Studio").
Violin making is incredibly difficult, and there are loads of factors that come into pricing. It also takes years to make them, I see it as a pretty equal price match, but it still really sucks that thry arent widely available for cheap. Ik there are some carbon violins out there though, there are a lot of luthiers trying to figure out how to produce a carbon violin with an authentic sound so people can afford one that's cheap and durable!
I'm a guitarist as well, but guitar and violin are built different. Reason even the technique in making violin took years to learn and even a good luthier wouldn't even be able to make violin as close to what it was in the past, such as Stradivarius, etc. For a classical guitar a basic mass produced Yamaha would work well and sounds good, I started with a $80 Yamaha Guitar as a starter, which for a violin the same price probably would not be as satisfactory. Each piece in the violin, are supposed to be handmade and really made to detail. A mass produced violin won't sound the same, reason why their price is soooo high.
Yeah, saving up for a 1k dollar bass is a lot for me, I'd hate to be saving up for a violin ( I don't think being 13 and not having a real job helps but....)
I actually bought the first one they had as my beginner violin and had to send it back 2 times… I got one from them and finally was able to play it.. I had to buy my own strings (about 60$) and it worked perfectly (the bridge wasn’t flat) .. so if a person can’t afford a expensive violin you can buy the first one and buy a set of good strings and make it work.. as a beginner one of course (buy a more expensive one later on when you know you’ll stick to playing)
The second violin in here...is literally the violin i have.....i had a budget..now i dunno what to do....like...TODAY I HAVE MY FIRST SESSION ALRIGHT WOW I HAVENT EVEN STARTED AND BOOM
"Begins at $400, that's like just playable." *sees comments discussing 200-400$ violin* *gazes at my bow, case, and violin, which came as a set for 100$ on ebay* oh
Yea I was thinking the same thing. I got mine for about the same price. And am in love with mine. If I payed $400 for a violin the place where I live will kill me.
Anjali a violin that cheap might have problems that will affect your playing, or anyone’s for that matter simply because they might not be built right. The best thing you can do would be to go to the nearest music store and see the cheapest violins that they have and confirm that they’re not total garbage, but that might not be possible right now for obvious reasons. I don’t mean to discourage you, but it would suck if someone stopped playing because their instrument was crap.
@@hurrikane5562 i understand. I cant even find a place to even rent one, even if i did i dont think it would be very safe. Guess I'll just stick to my guitar for now 😔
I got a used violin for 250 dollars once, and while the bow had to be redone (the horse hair where really messed up), it is a great instrument. Like the teacher told me that it is an instrument that would go into the thousands new.
emily chan Exactly! I’ve thought that for months. I’m surprised he hasn’t gotten one yet. Although, to be fair, I don’t know how much a professional-quality shoulder rest typically costs
They have money to buy all these rubbish in this video, they will have money to buy a new shoulder rest. More like most musicians have attachment issue
As an instrument maker, I've had quite a few violins like this brought into my workshop when the owners discovered they were unplayable. It's hard to tell them that the only cure is to throw it away and get a better instrument.
@@myes344 I guess it depends on what you consider "playable" to mean. Yes, you can make sounds with a violin like this. But since these instruments are mostly machine made, they are as a rule very badly set up, the strings are so high that they are next to impossible to press down to the fingerboard, and thus especially for beginners and children very frustrating to try to play. Setting them up properly usually costs more than a better violin would have cost.
@@therealzilch Yes, you can actually watch Olaf the Violin maker, he has a youtube channel (in case you don't know). He's a luthier and friend of Twoset. He said exactly the same thing as yours and price the playable violin cost after improving it to the price that Twoset mentioned in this video, which is around $400.
@@cdiking7026 The guitar has an easier learning curve- you can make pleasant sounds sooner than on the violin. But to play at a professional level, it's hard also.
Brett: I don't know if I want my bow touching that monstrosity Lol gotta love how protective of their instruments they are! I lost it when they did the violin flossing with the sacreligious bow hair 😂 I can't believe people are selling this stuff, total scam!
I don’t think this was the intended take away from this video, but watching this made me want to practice my violin again for the first time in 5 years
These comments made me much more grateful that my middle school orchestra teacher, when I was just starting out only supplied instruments that were $500 minimum, and she would rent them out for $25 per school year with free instrument and string repairs.
My school owned rented violin costs me like 25€ per semester because of insurance, and that's it. It's so sad that only two or three studemts use the opportunity with me - it's basically free violin classes.
As a luthier, I have had the dubious privilege of setting up a lot of these monstrosities. Eddy and Brett did a great job calling out a lot of the obvious problems with them. Plastic necks, unfitted bridges, the grooves in the nuts are always wrong. A lot of times it is possible to set them up to be barely playable, but considering how terrible they sound it’s really not worth it.
I'm not a professional luthier, but I got into it as a hobby, and what i've seen is that the below $100 range aren't really worth upgrading, but above that price can easily be made playable and the real thing is that the good ones are almost shockingly sturdy. Kids drops them and they fall pegbox down, and don't shatter. The wood is thicker, which makes them heavier duty, but of course that thickness of material hurts performance and playability(too think of neck, heavy makes it harder to practice for longer, doesn't resonate as well and sounds stifled). I have had a couple of these cheap amazon student instruments that actually shocked me. They are usually just set up really poorly. One they dropped and popped some glue seams loose, sound post fell out, bridge broke. After gluing the seams back together, the sound post was pretty crappy so I cut and fit a new one. The bridge was total loss so I shaped a cheap teller bridge, probably $10 in materials and after i finished i was actually shocked how good that violin sounded. I also adjusted one where the bridge was unplayable out of the box, practically square, too high, and not carved down at all(pretty much a blank, i mean 30 seconds of effort was made to fit that bridge. I fitted the feet properly, thinned it, shaped the top properly and it was pretty good after that.
My guitar tech friend once told a guy to buy a new guitar instead of trying to get a cheap Amazon guitar set up properly. "I told him it would be cheaper than replacing literally every component in it." I'm just glad guitars are cheap compared to everything else.
My luthier (well, the one I usually go to) doesn't even touch those horrible plastic violins. Even though he refuses to work with them he has *a lot* to say about them.
est1420 we don’t do it for paying customers, but there’s a charity we do set-ups for that takes donations of all levels. If it’s possible to be set up, they want it done because they distribute to kids who otherwise wouldn’t have an instrument at all.
I had a friend who played on a $70 violin every day at orchestra and our conductor would always call him out because it sounded really bad and he thought it was his fault, until one day he had to play it and demonstrate for the class
@@lottabubbles1596 no, i think the conductor played the kid's violin as a demonstration which led to the realization that the violin sucked, not the friend
When I was in 4th grade, I played violin and my uncle got me my violin. It was my first time playing an instrument. After some investigation, I recently learned my violin was bought off amazon for $60. No wonder I quit after the first year. My dad has informed me that after he finishes paying off my trumpet, (In August 2020) I am allowed to start playing another instrument. I am currently considering starting violin, once again, with a proper student violin and with more music knowledge and experience! :)
jmitterii2 that’s actually not necessarily true. If you buy an a hundred year old violin with good tone and great craftsmanship for 2000 dollars, in 40 years that violin could cost more as the age of it increases. As long as it is still in amazing condition, age of a violin really adds to the price as new violins are often looked down upon
I will forever be grateful that when I wanted to learn and got the tiniest violin to "play", Amazon was not yet invented and my parents rented one from an actual music store. Wow.
I am 70 years old and i honestly believe that the private music lessons that i paid for my little girl from 8 years old to 18 were the best investment i made in my life. Of course she truly wanted to play. she plays piano violin viola and anything she puts her hands on.
Do the companies that make these crappy instruments ever reach out to you via email or comment section to explain themselves? I wonder if they would claim you just got a lemon and offer to exchange it or if they thank you for the critique and say they're going to fix the products or if they're angry lol
they definitely don't care, they don't put any effort into the products and their whole point is to make nai've (probably old) parents and grandparents think they are useful in some way
@@xandraxandra1437 He doesn't actually 😂 but in the video where Eddy bought him a viola for his birthday there was a little kid roaming around his house and Brett said it was his son Kachikawawa: ruclips.net/video/B_nFV0zdv5U/видео.html
I bought a $90.00 violin on Amazon because it was all I could afford and wasn't sure if I'd like violin (I'm 57 and flit from hobby to hobby quite a bit). So far it's a great instrument for me, I learned how to tune it, even changed a string to make sure I knew how to do it just in case. It came with a decent bow and rosin, a neck rest and extra strings. I'm getting some wonderful sounds out of it and think it was a great deal and will last me years. 🎻
I love your show and especially love you guys getting angry at the junk that people get sold who want to try to learn the violin but it isn't even worthwhile stuff. Thank you for making us that much more aware that we should just not Try to buy a used violin rather than these horrible faiith the Violins. You guys are so VERY FUNNY AS YOU NOT ONLY Unwrapping the ACCESSORIES❣️❣️
Never felt so stressed watching a twoset video: **using their bows on cheap crappy instruments** **over 100 dollars worth of crap** **some are out of footage** **twoset thinking over their decisions in making this video** But still, this is why i enjoy watching you guys. 😂❤️
Just wanted to put it out there that these violins are a bit too cheap for playing. But, if youre just starting the violin and you can afford this, the $200 violin from walmart actually is really good. I now play a $7,000 violin body with a $5,000 bow. There is a huge difference but for starting, I definitely recommend the walmart one.
Pawn shops are good, too. They usually don't know anything about violins and you can get something much nicer than the $200 for much less. Though I'd recommend a beginner bring an experienced player who knows what to look for in a quality instrument
When I decided to start learning how to play the guitar, I bought a cheap $50-$100 'Lotus' guitar. It would've been just fine for a beginner to learn. But, as soon as I started learning the basic fundamentals, I ran out and bought a $3000 Gibson Les Paul. It didn't improve my playing any. I should've kept practicing on the cheap one until I got good, then buy a better guitar and I would've appreciated the higher quality a lot more.
Wow this video went PSA in 2 minutes flat, gentlemen this is epically good, This IS the video All beginners need to watch or any beginner who wants to start this IS that video you need to watch, so informative so instructive so educational I'm glad I found your channel.
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"Begins at $400 ... that's like just playable."
Me: *Hugging my $400 violin* Don’t listen to them, you are wonderful.
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Alexander Supertramp It's true that a better violin is better, I mean a Stradivarius is way better than my baby (sorry my precious but you're still the best in my heart). But it's also true that an "average" violin can sound way better depending on who plays it.
@Alexander Supertramp "better" with instruments can be very subjective
*My $200 one has entered the chat*
My violin was only £80
I love watching them get angry about things I don't understand
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The first violin is so red because of the blood and damned souls trapped within it
its of the factory workers
GrimRper tats dark
Wth
Or maybe it was painted with ketchup.
Mic drop Boom
Lol
for anyone who doesn't understand why they're being so careful with their bows, its because each of their bows probably cost around anywhere from $150 - $1000. Probably more, actually, as $300- $800 would be just a cheap student bow.
That's a bargain haha.
Oh if only it were to be that cheap..
My bow cost 200 freaking dollars so I treat it like a baby
their bows are probably even more expensive than that...
idk if I'm just a "idgaf" guy about the things i bought for myself or something but I bought a cheap e guitar for 150€ (that's the most money I've ever spent on luxury stuff...I don't have a lot of money) and I'm obviously not throwing it around like a weird m o n k e but if i bonk it against my desk or chair and there's a new dent in it I don't really care because...well even tho it's a lot of money for me...this is the lowest end of a playable electric guitar. Now. If this guitar would be 15,000€ (I doubt their bows are THAT much but this is for demonstration as well for a different instrument lol)
I'd honestly stand in the middle of my room, away from any kind of bonk-able surface that could dent my guitar and I'd be scared to even scratch the pickguard by accident, even tho...it's there to catch scratches that would otherwhise scratch the actual finish of the guitar
so some bows be costing more than some violins
The color of the violin is terrifying
@FJMZ Silent Gamer omg I'm stupid as hell thnx mate
"When choosing between color and colour, keep in mind that both spellings are correct.
The shorter one, color, is the preferred spelling in the United States.
The rest of the English-speaking world uses the longer form, colour."
The whole video was terrifying
@@TheWitchvortex oh really well than I'm not that stupid
Everything s just really confusing for a non-native speaker
@@miwir1248 and yeah that also
This actually makes me feel bad. There are a lot of families out there to whom 60$ is no laughing matter. Imagine you're trying to make your kid happy by buying them a violin just to end up with a boxful of plastic horrors instead.
@Merrielle Mandy i feel so bad for you. hope that scammer got arrested and when he dies has to listen to a never ending viola concert.
@@bezretmet Damn that's harsh ... But fair
@Joelle Chong OOF
@Joelle Chong with cellist crying.in the background
Great observation, Marek
TwoSet: doesn’t want to harm their violins
TwoSet: lab rat violins
Chopinesque SHUT UP
@@FabulousKilljoy ?!
It's testing not harming
Those shouldn't be called real violins.
Phylion you copied my comment
For my 10th birthday I got a turquoise violin from my dad. Later I looked on amazon history and discovered it was around 70 dollars, the same violin they got but a different color. I no longer blamed myself for snapping 3 strings and all the pegs coming out and all the hair on my bow unloosening. I learned that it wasn't my beginner's playing when I practiced on my schools violin and to my surprise, nothing broke. Moral of the story: Violins are expensive for a reason.
Buying from a reputable dealer (ie. a real music store or strings shop) is important. When my son started playing, I got him an $80 1/2 size violin (case/bow/rosin included). Granted, this was 12 years ago, but we bought it from the music shop in our small town. They measured my son to order the correct size because the 'orchestra' teacher wanted my son to get a full sized violin so it would be louder. There are many stories about that 'orchestra' and that teacher, but that was an awesome first violin. 12 years later and my son in minoring in music/violin performance, has a composite bow (he picked out) that plays the equivalent to a $1000 wood bow and was gifted a nice violin from a friend who used to be an excellent player through her 20s but sold her $5000 violin because she needed the money. She bought a 'cheap' $400 violin 30 years ago because she felt bad not owning a violin but couldn't play it because the sound quality was so much worse. That 'cheap' violin got him to all-state orchestra in high school and a performing arts scholarship in college.
Please don't be sad💙.
It's OK
They should have called Olaf to guest in this vid. I can imagine his horror
Hahah, good one 😂😂😂😂🎻🤕😁
I was hoping Olaf never sees this, he’ll go nuts
@@miwir1248 but I think Olaf can comment more on these violins. Like the quality and cut of the wood, the bowhair, the pegs, the bow, and how each, and also the sacrilegious accessories will affect the physics of sound production. Idk. Might be interesting and educational as well :) Maybe this vid can have a part 2 with Olaf. Money they spent on these amazon purchases is still money, might as well do another episode 😅
abby vv that is actually a big brain idea. Come on guys make a part 2!
He would have a heart attack looking at these gadgets😂
*watches every ad on this video so that twoset can get their money back*
tea bean! You are my faith in humanity
are they counting the views for ad or already got paid by allowing ad insertion? anyways thanks for reminding will do the same for next vids xd
@@是高恩啊 they got paid more if you watch the ads more than 30 seconds or until the end, whichever is shorter! If you don't want to watch for 30 secs you can also click on the links on the ads and they'll get paid. This is why views aren't a good indicator of how much they earn!
Lol
hahaha but sry watching the ads don't give them money
3:30 The most accurate fake violin acting we have ever seen.
Doctor Gradus am i the only one who thought it was real in the beginning
@@ry5172 same here actually. If that small af violin sounded like that, I'd give my money to that scammer.
they are so good they cant even fake correctly
What's the name of the piece he's playing? Quite new to this channel.
@@ryoreina czardas from Vittorio Monti :D
My Dad bought the same viola on Amazon! One of the strings snapped in my face when I tried to tune it. After we tossed it, I asked him if he read the reviews before purchasing. He turned to me with this befuddled look on his face and asked, "What reviews?"
Isn't there something you could do with it? Like make it electric or something.
Me: Mom can we get a violin
Mom: No we have a violin at home
Violin at home:
This joke:
Lydia El. Lmao
Dangit I came down here to make this joke
My violin is legit around 69-75$ (which is around one million in my country, and it does look like the 69$ monstrosity on the video, except my bridge is on. The case is also looking like a viola case.
this joke isnt funny
Lol, in my elementary school orchestra, I was concert master. Half the people couldn’t tune their violins, and I had to tune it for them... the violins I have come across... unspeakable...
Dude, i feel you. I had just the same situation, and i'm still in elementary music school, and there we have like a school orchestra and because no one knew how to tune their violin i had to do it and the sounds of that violins was truly horrible...
Lol im in high school and still can’t tune
Good thing I play the piano - I don't need to be able to tune my instrument... xD
Concert master in elementary school? WTF? They have that? Lol
LMAO
i can make a strad sound like a 20$ violin
Please no, no instrument should suffer that much and no human should listen to that and also suffer
you can’t make a strad sound like a $20 violin. because you don’t have a strad.
Me too me too! Hidden talent
@@akselai you missed the joke
@@colsov4822 no he didnt, he was adding to it
i love how eddy's instinct still has him holding the shitty violin like a baby and protecting it to make sure it doesn't fall.
"400$ is just playable"
Me: *looks at my 140$ violin* Well you've lived for 10 years, you're great in your own way XD
" *looks at my 47$ violin in shame* "
Asian *looks at my $1000 violin* eh
Guilty face for complaining about a $3000 violin
$140 squad boiiiiz
$300 violin bow combination gang
The people who made these: *Hey, I’ve got a glue gun, and some rope, and an old chunk of plastic takeaway container, I can make a violin!*
OceanRose Gacha Fun Fact : THEY DID
These items need to be prohibited
jianping Xing I know right?!
me who just got a $250 violin because it’s the only one I could afford... at least it’s better than the $60 one I got for christmas and I had to learn how to play on it
they also had too many beers beforehand
i wish i have a boyfriend that cares about me as much as brett and eddy care for their violins.
or not. no boyfriend sounds AWESOME honestly. freedom~ without limits~u dont even have to go through the painful process of finding one~or even having to worry abt a second human being when one just cant worry enough abt themselves.
@@alexarmanto6016 k
you have to be expensive enough
as hell
If you play violin the violin is your bae :)
because we all know we can't get a boyfriend anyway,
so just play violin
i was like: WOAH its actually playing! then brett just comes into shot like 🎻🎻
If you can get scammed slowly you can get scammed quickly
hehe im the 666 like
Dude 😂😂👌👌
SaCReLigOUs
*inaudible notes starts playing*
U one sacreligious boi
Me who doesn't know anything they're saying:
*Nods angrily along*
SAME! I play the horn and for some reason I'm here and am clueless to everything
Same, and yet I can’t stop watching.
😂😂😂😂 same lmao
I can relate but i mean im learning new things about the violin by watching these guys cuz i didnt even know what a bridge once till they showed it lmao
Oh, your ears sure know
twoset: buys incredibly cheap violin
violin: is crappy
twoset: *suprised pikachu face*
Ya get what ya get ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The Gamist saves up life savings for a thing you wanted your whole life and buys it except theres nothing and it never arrives and you got scammed
y o u g e t w h a t y o u g e t
I mean like...they expect it to somewhat work
I would be pretty surprised too that sounded so bad
H
Those prices are honestly insane. 500k to 10m for a soloist violin meanwhile an antique 1888 Antonio de Torres( the most famous classical guitar maker) guitar in perfectly restored condition is 275k
Soloists can't even afford the violins. They have to borrow them. Ray Chen's violin is on a loan also. It really is outrageous.
Edit: bloody grammar
I WAS SO SHOOK AT THE SOUND QUALITY OF YHE MINI UNTIL BRETT STEPPED IN IM DYING
yeah, that was not comfortable. i was (man, that is the proof what *skills really matter*)
-ashamed-
Same
Eddy: I'm scared this will pop. *Points it at Brett*
A true sign of friendship
Eddy did forgot to tell that tone it was ...
Lol!!
Imagine wanting a violin for Christmas and your parents put this travesty under the tree
Well, that's exactly what is going to happen to me. I asked for a violin worth 35€. I guess I shouldn't have watched this video in the first place, because my excitement was destroyed from the very beginning.
@@ΘωμάςΒαραδάς in all honesty man as a complete beginner it will be fine, you can practice technique and get a feel for holding the instrument and bow, and the tone isn’t good but at least you can get sound out of it. Just enjoy it for what it is, if your family can’t afford a good violin then you can take music class through school and play violin, you will get a loan violin that you can keep and play. Point is if you really want to play violin and love the instrument you will make use of this violin.
Sounds like something my family would do.
That's....Exactly what they did T_T
PFFFT-
i know you two will never see this, but seriously thank yall for the past couple years. i loved watching your videos through rough times and during my music journey, and i really hope whatever your doing now is beneficial to your health, as fans that’s what we truly care about, yall are still people. please take care, and thank you for the memories.
The case comes with a free violin
@Edmark Babor
No, the package comes with a free case and violin.
I literally cracked on this🤣🤣🤣
HAHA YES
I needed someone before me to like this comment so I could have been like number 666.......
That awkward moment when I actually believed Eddy could make a sound on that first violin..... fml
Not alone. I was like, “hey that actually sounds pretty decent- ohh wait...”
Leviathene YOUR NOT ALONE 😂😂😂
Ur dumb dumb
Lol
....oh.
"begins at $400 ... that's like just playable"
Me: looks up my instrument
oh :'(
Ikr
I do own a 70USD violin, other than E string, everything sounds normal (normal for my level), gonna upgrade to 2000USD one soon. 70USD to start a new hobby and examine if you can keep this hobby or not is worthy I think.
Lmao my violin was 150.....
Mine was $350, and I love her so much!
lmao mine is £160 and it's playable for my grade 8 level
I treat my cello like my own child; I’d never put this stuff on it! I would cover its eyes from these treacherous torture devices!!1!
"We could see it if you filmed it"
The editor is the best Twoset member.
hell yeah
Um I think that's just Brett and Eddy
Yes! The best!
PianoKangaroo13 They have editors, you can even apply to be one if you go to their website
[quality footage]
Let me tell you my funny story! I never played violin. I play guitar, mandolin and piano. When my granpa passed away, he gave me his violin. I did not play for a year. When i finally decided to play, it was out of tune. I watched a vid on youtube to get the right note and the fricking bridge flew right across the room! I cried 3 night straight! Thinking I had broken a violin who was passed on for 6 generations! Saved over a 1000$ to get it repaired and the artisan(yes he builds violin as a passion & knows everything about wood based instruments) He laughed so hard at me and explained that it was not glued on the violin lolll He fixed it without charging me and showed me how to tune it🤦 I took that money and bought myself a cheap violin to start practicing! Im never touching that violin again until i 100% know how to play😂
bridges are not supposed to be glued down. it relies on the tension of the strings, placement, and angle. dont recommend gluing it down... you should take it to a local luthier.
That is such a good story. I play kalimba as I can't get instruments like guitar now due to my age and studies. Have a good life man🌸
aww so cute! Keep up the good work on practicing the violin! I know you can do it.
Wholesome bro
Oh noooo!
I'm sorry! Btw Jesus loves you he's coming soon!
Jesus the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through him:D
Jesus is coming soon
the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord
All who turn to him and follow him can be saved:D
Me when Eddy played on the trash violin:
*jaw drops*
*Brett show up seconds later with his violin*
Me: Oh, ok
ha ha, listen to the notes and look a the bow. If they don't match then there's trickery afoot.
Do you know the name of the song?
Lazer Saint czardas by V. Monti
@@zPoiison Czardas by Vittorio Monti. You can find it in the Series 9 Grade 6 AMEB Violin book.
@@zPoiison I legit thought it was the start of Alejandro by Lady Gaga, but maybe the music video starts with a classical piece then xD
6:05 “Bro, that’s the pegs!”
*No, that is someone trying to break into your house at night.*
Eddy popping the bubble wrap is all of us when we see one
Oh yes...
Of course!
so truuuueeeeeeeeeee
2set does asmr
@@yellownoiseclub I thought "no, don't become an asmr channel..." and was glad they stopped so quickly. :D
This video should be titled
“Twoset waste money on sacrilegious products”
...so that people, who don't know any better, don't.
s a c r i l e g i o u s
I hope they kept the receipt for tax purposes!
*_sacrilegious_*
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Not even sacrilegious kids:
*my family* :
“Look we got you a violin cheaper than what the teacher told us!”
Sad story
This is just true for any kind of thing your teacher recommends for buying. For example costumes for stage plays
Parents just think cheap stuff would have the qualitiy as expensive stuff :")
Good for calculators and textbooks, but almost never good for any of the arts unless you know what you're doing.
My parents bought me the first one. And they paid more then what it costed on amazon
i love how gentle they are with the instrument because i thought maybe i was just overreacting when i had to do thing with my viola that i didn’t feel comfortable doing because i thought it would break. just proves how i’m just caring about my instrument not overreacting 😭 love u guys
Welcome to my job teaching beginning string classes, easily half of my students have these disasters
Is there any way to get sound out of these or will it always be a waste of rosin?
@@LeoWolfish It wouldn't be worth it even if you were able to fix the bridges, bows, pegs, etc. All of that DIY would cost much more than those abominations are worth. Even after the "renovations" the instruments would still stink, look gawdy, and sound quiet or altogether awful.
In the end it's more important that a poor student have a bad instrument than no instrument
Same ☠️
@@matteisenberg7496 Some schools/tutors rent out instruments for the term, or buy secondhand instruments back from graduates to sell cheaply to new students. Would either be feasible in your workplace?
I mean...at least it came in a case
*my friend’s younger brother got a $30 violin that came face flat in a box*
bruh you're literally me: a potterhead that loves TwoSet 😂
@## dude you aint a muggle?
For some reason I read this as flat face not face flat
@## HO HO HO! REPORT TO THE MINISTRY IF YOU WISH TO CONTINUE YOUR WIZARDING LIFE
@## fuck u muggle
"Begins at $400, thats just playable."
How dare you insult my $300 bargain masterpiece!
SerjianDragonrain wth mine was $25
Mine was 50 cents and for some reason when I brought it to school my orchestra teacher yelled at me for not playing
Is a 200 dollar violin to cheap? I'm interested in getting one but idk what a good price range is. Anyone out there?
George munson at the least don’t get any that are under 300 if you want a good/ok one
Mine was $113 and is the same quality as my friends that was $1000
I bought my cello off of eBay about 20 years ago for $350, just to putter and teach myself. When I got a proper teacher she couldn’t believe it was that cheap an instrument. It was a student grade to be sure, but totally playable, and has a pretty good tone. Best 350 I ever spent.
I bought a violin for 45$ and it plays pretty well… going to lessons with them and learning vibrato…
I was a painter and this reminds me of the utter crap peddled to beginner watercolorists... it's sad that these companies prey on potential learners and prevent them ever learning at all
your pfp is so cursed why does kara look like a dilf
@@zarsiw lmao it's one of my old illustrations and I set it as my avatar for a laugh and never changed it back. (On Discord I have a portrait from the same series except it's Ichimatsu and he's unshaven and looks like he hasn't sleep in days)
@@watsonwrote wow you're really good! and i feel you on the "made it my pfp for a laugh and never changed it back" thing, as you can probably tell
To be fair. Watercolor is more about skill than the material. I've seen people make good art with their coffee or blood lmao.
Of course, preservations is where it gets expensive. More expensive materials just last longer. Value also rise up with expensive materials.
This is a different though. Can't get good with a cheap violin if it's unplayable. I've seen pros try to play with a cheap violins and made it playable, but only because they immediately know what's wrong with it and how to adjust to it.
@@seraby7151 to be fair, Kasey Golden is another breed of artist (she's very great, i wish i can get washes as flat as hers)
How you know someone is a musician - “yeah, we aren’t putting some of these on our instruments” and “I don’t want my bow touching that monstrosity”
Well think about how much money they paid for their violins as well, too much to risk
Dude I didn't even want my violin to see that thing xD
"Begins at $400... that's like just playable."
Me: looks at my $130 violin from Amazon
Me: *You're still perfect to me*
Mines 100 and from Amazon too 😢 *hides my violin*
Don't be discouraged. Work with what u have. My first sax is Chinese maid. I told myself when the expensive one's is not accessible to me, this sax is therefore making it the best sax for my learning.
@@rielzuad7028 I want a Chinese maid.
@@KusanagiMotoko100 made*
Mine is 150, I love it. I think for a beginner, why spend a fortune if you might lose interest.
I am playing and performing on a sprektrum of instruments and I gotta say something for beginners: If you are unsure about wether or not you stick to the instrument. Go and rent a professionally made instrument! They are usually in amazing shape and fixed up to make your journey most pleasant. I did this with my flute when I was a kid, the piano and now with a Cello (I started learning two weeks ago. (Yes, I play 4 instruments^^) If you love the sound of an instrument don't waste money and nerves on poorly made things and if you end up realizing that the particular instrument isn't for you, you can give it back and someone else is being able to learn on it. ;)
Don't show these violins to Olaf, you might give the man a heart attack.
*cough viola
Photon the Fatpurp hey, I’m a violist
@@summerdogs1124I'm not sure whether I should say it'll get better or nice.
That stupid Virtuoso wrist thing is for archery not violin, the people who sold it are scammers
Anderson Choi “oh hey, you sent the product over to amazon right?” “Yeah, this is going to help so many violinists out there” “violinists? This is supposed to be for archers!” “YOU SAID IT WAS FOR BOWS ITS NOT MY FAULT”
@@annonimooseq1246 haha nice
i knew it looked familiar!
Arm guards are usually a bit wide, seeing as they have to cover most of your forearm, but regardless of that, whatever that thing was, it was a scam!
NO violinist practices with a wrist aid...
the fact that it costs $50,000 for a "professional" violin is just so sad ... so many talented people would never be able to afford one. I think this is also part of the reason why the classical music scene is filled with mostly upper class people. I'm not criticizing people for having money, but damn, I know it does not cost even close to $50,000 to produce a violin lol. Just seems over the top in terms of pricing. I'm a professional guitarist and the cost of each of my guitars varies from $800 - $2500. $2500 would be considered a "professional build", but in actually the additional cost is mostly for the prestige (e.g. the headstock logo showing up as "Gibson Les Paul" vs a "Gibson Les Paul Studio").
Violin making is incredibly difficult, and there are loads of factors that come into pricing. It also takes years to make them, I see it as a pretty equal price match, but it still really sucks that thry arent widely available for cheap. Ik there are some carbon violins out there though, there are a lot of luthiers trying to figure out how to produce a carbon violin with an authentic sound so people can afford one that's cheap and durable!
Right? A professional guitarist could EASILY make a professional sound on a £300 squire or epiphone.
I'm a guitarist as well, but guitar and violin are built different. Reason even the technique in making violin took years to learn and even a good luthier wouldn't even be able to make violin as close to what it was in the past, such as Stradivarius, etc. For a classical guitar a basic mass produced Yamaha would work well and sounds good, I started with a $80 Yamaha Guitar as a starter, which for a violin the same price probably would not be as satisfactory. Each piece in the violin, are supposed to be handmade and really made to detail. A mass produced violin won't sound the same, reason why their price is soooo high.
Sometimes your just paying for the name
Yeah, saving up for a 1k dollar bass is a lot for me, I'd hate to be saving up for a violin ( I don't think being 13 and not having a real job helps but....)
I actually bought the first one they had as my beginner violin and had to send it back 2 times… I got one from them and finally was able to play it.. I had to buy my own strings (about 60$) and it worked perfectly (the bridge wasn’t flat) .. so if a person can’t afford a expensive violin you can buy the first one and buy a set of good strings and make it work.. as a beginner one of course (buy a more expensive one later on when you know you’ll stick to playing)
This actually explains a lot, the problem is my $80 violin, not my skills... It's all clear now... 😂
Suuurrrrrrrrrrrre
its ur skills
A professional could make a $80 violin sound $2000. But a noob could make a $2000 violin sound like a $20 violin
@@jacquelineherrera4709 this guy is a musician, look at his channel
The second violin in here...is literally the violin i have.....i had a budget..now i dunno what to do....like...TODAY I HAVE MY FIRST SESSION ALRIGHT WOW I HAVENT EVEN STARTED AND BOOM
No one:
RUclips autogenerated subtitles: *v i o l e n c e*
not autogenerated - they put them in themselves lol
caterpillow it’s auto generated in this case
Yea!
I know 😣 I had to turn the captions off - every time I saw ‘violence’ instead of ‘violins’ my brain got distracted ugh
@@a.7889-v8f hahaha I always keep them on because I think this kind of things are funny
These guys are the Gordon Ramsays of the violin world.
Only not cuz the violin works.
@@myes344Oh its you again
@@myes344 are you like a worker of these violins factories? lol
This violin fooking RAW
Please don't ever insult Twoset like that again.
As a violinist, that first plastic looking violin made me shed a tear
me too! Bringing you back to this video, you commented 2 years ago❗
"Begins at $400, that's like just playable."
*sees comments discussing 200-400$ violin*
*gazes at my bow, case, and violin, which came as a set for 100$ on ebay*
oh
Yea I was thinking the same thing. I got mine for about the same price. And am in love with mine. If I payed $400 for a violin the place where I live will kill me.
Well, ya got it on eBay. You probably got a hand-me down.
I really want to learn, but i dont think i could go over $150. Like, could you still learn on a 100-150$ violin from amazon?
Anjali a violin that cheap might have problems that will affect your playing, or anyone’s for that matter simply because they might not be built right. The best thing you can do would be to go to the nearest music store and see the cheapest violins that they have and confirm that they’re not total garbage, but that might not be possible right now for obvious reasons. I don’t mean to discourage you, but it would suck if someone stopped playing because their instrument was crap.
@@hurrikane5562 i understand. I cant even find a place to even rent one, even if i did i dont think it would be very safe. Guess I'll just stick to my guitar for now 😔
That “wrist aid” looks more like an archery arm guard...
Oh my god i think it is
nah, those have leather and is meant to be lower, nearer to the elbow
Omg yes it dose
it's for bows
literally thought the same lol
Damn. When TwoSet isn’t flexing, I’m in awe at how well they can roast. Also, editor was on fire today. Love you Threeset
The editing is amazing lately!
Just kidding!! I’m back y’all. You know what I actually really like this video. It’s one of my favs. Glad you guys didn’t private it😔
Ikr
i was like “hey that sounds pretty good” until i saw brett come into the shot-
Real lol
The music starting before his bow touched the strings was a dead giveaway.
I just-
*-insert facepalm in 237 different languages-*
TwoSet: soloist violins start at $500,000
pianist: *laughs in $156,000 concert grand*
500,000? Is that an error?
The Divine Comedy not at all they get violins from like the 16th century
@@welken3756 not an error
If a pianist would laugh because he has a more expensive instrument, wouldn't the violin have to be less expensive?
@@welken3756 the pianist was laughing because he saved over $300,000...
Eddy: *puts on gadget that helps with the wrist
Eddy: this is torture
RUclips auto subtitle: sexual torture
Hey, to each their own
Truly
Omg lol
Maybe that is true and it is sexual
I am non-native English, so I thought that sentence was really correct. 😂😂
I got a used violin for 250 dollars once, and while the bow had to be redone (the horse hair where really messed up), it is a great instrument.
Like the teacher told me that it is an instrument that would go into the thousands new.
What twoset needs is a device that can hold their shoulder rest ON the violin throughout the video
Just Brett, really 😂
Which is a new shoulder rest
emily chan
Exactly! I’ve thought that for months. I’m surprised he hasn’t gotten one yet. Although, to be fair, I don’t know how much a professional-quality shoulder rest typically costs
They have money to buy all these rubbish in this video, they will have money to buy a new shoulder rest. More like most musicians have attachment issue
@@ylimexyz Maybe he really likes the old one which may not be produced anymore.
Violinists: A decent beginner instrument is expensive!
Pianists: Hold my sheet music
Digital piano FTW...
I got a free upright. There’s a bunch for 100 or so because people want them gone
Carrie Brooks I play a clarinet so cant relate
@@Kimoto504 Digital pianos are sacrilegious.
Contra bassists: HOLD MY BOW
what we have learned:
cheap things smell bad
edit: did the likes stop yet
smell funny
Lol
sorlqi yeah!
hahah same :)
Yes
11:03 Brett: We gotta CO-UMB the hair
“when you pay 60 dollars you get a viola”
*Me hugging my handmade antique viola* don’t listen to them Joseph Haydn
As an instrument maker, I've had quite a few violins like this brought into my workshop when the owners discovered they were unplayable. It's hard to tell them that the only cure is to throw it away and get a better instrument.
How are u a maker. This violin works. Dont bereve me? Go watch anyone else review this same violin. I don't trust the things u make btw
@@myes344 I guess it depends on what you consider "playable" to mean. Yes, you can make sounds with a violin like this. But since these instruments are mostly machine made, they are as a rule very badly set up, the strings are so high that they are next to impossible to press down to the fingerboard, and thus especially for beginners and children very frustrating to try to play. Setting them up properly usually costs more than a better violin would have cost.
@@therealzilch Yes, you can actually watch Olaf the Violin maker, he has a youtube channel (in case you don't know). He's a luthier and friend of Twoset. He said exactly the same thing as yours and price the playable violin cost after improving it to the price that Twoset mentioned in this video, which is around $400.
I would tell them to get rid of the violin and instead learn to play guitar
@@cdiking7026 The guitar has an easier learning curve- you can make pleasant sounds sooner than on the violin. But to play at a professional level, it's hard also.
Brett: I don't know if I want my bow touching that monstrosity
Lol gotta love how protective of their instruments they are!
I lost it when they did the violin flossing with the sacreligious bow hair 😂 I can't believe people are selling this stuff, total scam!
TLE I mean, if they're "professionals", then by their own categorization they're $10,000+ instruments
I don’t think this was the intended take away from this video, but watching this made me want to practice my violin again for the first time in 5 years
Then do it.
These comments made me much more grateful that my middle school orchestra teacher, when I was just starting out only supplied instruments that were $500 minimum, and she would rent them out for $25 per school year with free instrument and string repairs.
My school owned rented violin costs me like 25€ per semester because of insurance, and that's it. It's so sad that only two or three studemts use the opportunity with me - it's basically free violin classes.
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Sereusly??? Damn that's a nice school then
Thats a win win
"soloist 500k to 1 mil"
Laughs in trumpet section where professionals play on 2k to 4k instruments
Wow my student flute was like 2.5k
Cries in the bass section where bottom tier instruments are nearly $3k.
cries on piano
*cries in triple horn*
School orchestra contrabass is over 1mil as I remember
Wow... Those bow devices are like putting two walls in the road to learn how to drive a car in a straight line.
Its like bumpers in a bowling alley. They block the gutter for kids so the ball actually hits something 😆
It’s actually worse than that, lol. It’s like putting a wall in front of the car and telling it to drive through it.
I feel sorry for those who bought these-
I’m a beginner and I use a $230 violin, and he works just fine, thank you very much 😅
As a luthier, I have had the dubious privilege of setting up a lot of these monstrosities. Eddy and Brett did a great job calling out a lot of the obvious problems with them. Plastic necks, unfitted bridges, the grooves in the nuts are always wrong. A lot of times it is possible to set them up to be barely playable, but considering how terrible they sound it’s really not worth it.
I'm not a professional luthier, but I got into it as a hobby, and what i've seen is that the below $100 range aren't really worth upgrading, but above that price can easily be made playable and the real thing is that the good ones are almost shockingly sturdy. Kids drops them and they fall pegbox down, and don't shatter. The wood is thicker, which makes them heavier duty, but of course that thickness of material hurts performance and playability(too think of neck, heavy makes it harder to practice for longer, doesn't resonate as well and sounds stifled). I have had a couple of these cheap amazon student instruments that actually shocked me. They are usually just set up really poorly. One they dropped and popped some glue seams loose, sound post fell out, bridge broke. After gluing the seams back together, the sound post was pretty crappy so I cut and fit a new one. The bridge was total loss so I shaped a cheap teller bridge, probably $10 in materials and after i finished i was actually shocked how good that violin sounded. I also adjusted one where the bridge was unplayable out of the box, practically square, too high, and not carved down at all(pretty much a blank, i mean 30 seconds of effort was made to fit that bridge. I fitted the feet properly, thinned it, shaped the top properly and it was pretty good after that.
My guitar tech friend once told a guy to buy a new guitar instead of trying to get a cheap Amazon guitar set up properly. "I told him it would be cheaper than replacing literally every component in it."
I'm just glad guitars are cheap compared to everything else.
My luthier (well, the one I usually go to) doesn't even touch those horrible plastic violins. Even though he refuses to work with them he has *a lot* to say about them.
est1420 we don’t do it for paying customers, but there’s a charity we do set-ups for that takes donations of all levels. If it’s possible to be set up, they want it done because they distribute to kids who otherwise wouldn’t have an instrument at all.
I love how the "Sacrilegious $67.72" is written in Comic Sans
That itself is SACRILEGIOUS.. but fitting
Yass. I noticed that too XD
*megalovania intensifies*
The good old comic sans
My science teacher writes all our papers in comic sans and he’s a boomer so he don’t know how memed it is
I had a friend who played on a $70 violin every day at orchestra and our conductor would always call him out because it sounded really bad and he thought it was his fault, until one day he had to play it and demonstrate for the class
Lemme get this straight, he thought he was bad, so one day he had to demonstrate something, and everyone realised that the violin sucks?
@@lottabubbles1596 no, i think the conductor played the kid's violin as a demonstration which led to the realization that the violin sucked, not the friend
Yeah, my mind is trying to play out this story, but the pronouns are whacking things up. Who demonstrated it?
did the conductor play it to demonstrate or your friend....im confused.
And this, my friends, is why the pronoun-antecedent relationship is so important.
watching this while waiting for an explanation 😭
You should bring these violins to olaf for his opinion on them.
Better not, he will get a heart attack
YEESSS
i thought of the snowman and i was so confused for a second
When I was in 4th grade, I played violin and my uncle got me my violin. It was my first time playing an instrument. After some investigation, I recently learned my violin was bought off amazon for $60. No wonder I quit after the first year. My dad has informed me that after he finishes paying off my trumpet, (In August 2020) I am allowed to start playing another instrument. I am currently considering starting violin, once again, with a proper student violin and with more music knowledge and experience! :)
Godspeed my guy
rent!
Good luck on your journey!!
See if there is a luthier in your area, especially a young one. You might be able to get a cheap and good sounding violin.
I'm currently using my $60 violin, and I hate it because its terrible that's why I quit practicing .😔
A 400$ violin is just... playable
Me: hugs my 2000$ violin
Violin: yeah Im good
*My bank account: and Im dead*
Hopefully you'll keep playing. I have no idea of the resell value of most instruments, but I can imagine you won't get 2,000 back.
jmitterii2 great way to spoil a day
jmitterii2 that’s actually not necessarily true. If you buy an a hundred year old violin with good tone and great craftsmanship for 2000 dollars, in 40 years that violin could cost more as the age of it increases. As long as it is still in amazing condition, age of a violin really adds to the price as new violins are often looked down upon
@Gargi Jejurikar no
I see jungkook :)
I will forever be grateful that when I wanted to learn and got the tiniest violin to "play", Amazon was not yet invented and my parents rented one from an actual music store. Wow.
I am 70 years old and i honestly believe that the private music lessons that i paid for my little girl from 8 years old to 18 were the best investment i made in my life. Of course she truly wanted to play. she plays piano violin viola and anything she puts her hands on.
that's nice!
Twoset are torturing themselves again after that classical remixes 😭😭😭 luckily they have lingling insurance to protect them
Rieny A. Bandan Yes pray to lingling insurance saving their lives every 48 hours of day and night.
They should play the cheap Violins with a handsaw.
@@rangabusi So true
Eddy: I'm not tuning this E string any higher, it doesn't feel right.
Every guitarist restringing their guitar.
Do the companies that make these crappy instruments ever reach out to you via email or comment section to explain themselves? I wonder if they would claim you just got a lemon and offer to exchange it or if they thank you for the critique and say they're going to fix the products or if they're angry lol
they definitely don't care, they don't put any effort into the products and their whole point is to make nai've (probably old) parents and grandparents think they are useful in some way
Now they have a “violin/viola” to test the child-stand-on-a-violin-theory.
Awesome, and they can bring in Brett's son to use as the child.
steem sprite Didn’t know Brett has a son, but great idea!
Brett's been a child before he can do it again.
@@xandraxandra1437 He doesn't actually 😂 but in the video where Eddy bought him a viola for his birthday there was a little kid roaming around his house and Brett said it was his son Kachikawawa: ruclips.net/video/B_nFV0zdv5U/видео.html
Omg I actually thought that first violin was actually playing, I was like hey it sounds really nice actually
unironically, my first thought was like; wow, im buying that immediately.
The bowing was off the sound.
It did not sound good.
@@MrVlogman101 ,(((
Brett: This violin is not a violin
Nobody:
RUclips English Subtitles: This viola is not a violin.
I bought a $90.00 violin on Amazon because it was all I could afford and wasn't sure if I'd like violin (I'm 57 and flit from hobby to hobby quite a bit). So far it's a great instrument for me, I learned how to tune it, even changed a string to make sure I knew how to do it just in case. It came with a decent bow and rosin, a neck rest and extra strings. I'm getting some wonderful sounds out of it and think it was a great deal and will last me years. 🎻
Brett: "I need to have a shower after. It's so dirty."
*three months later*
*showers with the violin*
3:43 "I don't know if I want my bow to touch that monstrosity"
BRETT IS SO SAVAGE AHAHAHAHA
You guys are the Gordon Ramsay’s of violin criticism. 😂
Wow 200 likes thank but don’t like the comment like the video.
Oh, please, I would roast this.
*Ramsays
Hannan Zhou why
Hannan Zhou and why go ahead
pingpongpung it’s right
I love your show and especially love you guys getting angry at the junk that people get sold who want to try to learn the violin but it isn't even worthwhile stuff. Thank you for making us that much more aware that we should just not Try to buy a used violin rather than these horrible faiith the Violins. You guys are so VERY FUNNY AS YOU NOT ONLY Unwrapping the ACCESSORIES❣️❣️
The lesson can be applied to all aspects of life: if it’s cheap, there’s a reason why.
Never felt so stressed watching a twoset video:
**using their bows on cheap crappy instruments**
**over 100 dollars worth of crap**
**some are out of footage**
**twoset thinking over their decisions in making this video**
But still, this is why i enjoy watching you guys. 😂❤️
Their bows! I couldn't stand it!
Just wanted to put it out there that these violins are a bit too cheap for playing. But, if youre just starting the violin and you can afford this, the $200 violin from walmart actually is really good. I now play a $7,000 violin body with a $5,000 bow. There is a huge difference but for starting, I definitely recommend the walmart one.
*cries in cant even afford a 5 piece mcnugget meal*
Pawn shops are good, too. They usually don't know anything about violins and you can get something much nicer than the $200 for much less. Though I'd recommend a beginner bring an experienced player who knows what to look for in a quality instrument
I didn't even know walmart sold Violins ;-; lol
When I decided to start learning how to play the guitar, I bought a cheap $50-$100 'Lotus' guitar. It would've been just fine for a beginner to learn. But, as soon as I started learning the basic fundamentals, I ran out and bought a $3000 Gibson Les Paul. It didn't improve my playing any. I should've kept practicing on the cheap one until I got good, then buy a better guitar and I would've appreciated the higher quality a lot more.
*cries in country that doesn't have walmart (Germany)*
Wow this video went PSA in 2 minutes flat, gentlemen this is epically good, This IS the video All beginners need to watch or any beginner who wants to start this IS that video you need to watch, so informative so instructive so educational I'm glad I found your channel.