Can You Hear The Difference Between a Cheap and Expensive Piano?

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  • Can you hear the difference between an expensive piano and a cheap piano? I started the video playing on cheap pianos and gradually increased their quality. Can you hear the difference between them? Which one is the best?
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  • @litigioussociety4249
    @litigioussociety4249 Год назад +2896

    Hotel staff in Vancouver: There's some foreign guy that keeps playing the same song on every piano in town.

  • @bellamyblake5382
    @bellamyblake5382 Год назад +3397

    In my opinion, somewhere after the piano for $275 thousand, the difference in sound became less and less significant. I even liked the sound of the mentioned piano more than the more expensive variants. I think the cost is more justified by the design, the material of the case, the limitations, the brand and the status of the architect. And the filling is not much different

    • @MichaelGrubeMiGru
      @MichaelGrubeMiGru Год назад +165

      That's what I thought as well. I don't think a golden piano necessarily sounds better than a white one...

    • @shannamcmellon572
      @shannamcmellon572 Год назад +91

      I thought the same thing as well. If a piano is tuned correctly and the pianist is skilled, a 2k piano can sound just as good as a 700k piano.

    • @ghr8184
      @ghr8184 Год назад +64

      Same for me. 100,000 to 275 thousand was miniscule and after that, there was maybe a slight tonal difference from one instrument to the other, but not a difference in quality.

    • @dmytrotsvyntarnyi799
      @dmytrotsvyntarnyi799 Год назад +61

      Yes, you are right. At that point, it becomes more of a sculpture rather than just a musical instrument

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 Год назад +16

      ​​@@shannamcmellon572 that depends on the model of the piano. Not unless it's a concert grand piano, and the seller really wants to get rid of it to the point of selling it for 2K which in most cases highly unlikely. A grand piano still feels different to play than an upright piano.
      Also for those curious I would like to add that Vinheteiro might have gotten the labels for the Bechstein Concert8 and Hoffmann T161 mixed up because the Bechstein Concert8 is an upright piano🎹🎶

  • @DiggerTRock365
    @DiggerTRock365 4 месяца назад +198

    The most shocking thing was learning that there is a TV that costs 100k

    • @eyescreamsandwitch52
      @eyescreamsandwitch52 18 дней назад

      OLED + Gimmick + "Signature" in a nutshell
      Wait till you learn about MicroLED that are currently "Available"

    • @RashadTyrique
      @RashadTyrique 14 дней назад +1

      I immediately googled it 😂

  • @VictoriaAnne344
    @VictoriaAnne344 3 месяца назад +122

    I am a retired music teacher but used to show my music students many of your videos! I like your new way of editing where when switching pianos, the song continues, instead of starting it over each time! I missed you and will resubscribe just because of all the good memories! You are amazing!

  • @MrFreeGman
    @MrFreeGman Год назад +1220

    It's hard to tell a difference after the 50k-100k price range. I think the more expensive ones are more art pieces than instruments.

    • @elcidcampeador7400
      @elcidcampeador7400 Год назад +33

      Agree. The “guts” are basically the same. That said, to me size matters and nothing smaller compares to the sound and action response of a concert grand in any brand.

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 Год назад +2

      @@elcidcampeador7400 exactlly🎹🎶

    • @alexanderkupke920
      @alexanderkupke920 Год назад +13

      It may seem some sound a bit fuller and some sound somewhat brighter, but the differences are minute from what you can tell out of a youtube video which for sure does not use the most audiophile coded for audio compression (it usually simply does not have to).
      Assuming more or less ide tical methods of recording, being left or right of a grand piano due to the open lid makes a difference. But then they are in different rooms with different characteristics and reflections, and most of all, they are made of different materials, wood, resin, steel. So there have to be at least very fine differences. If most of us are able to tell those apart? Nah, don't think so.

    • @richardgirard8218
      @richardgirard8218 Год назад +5

      Some of the expensive ones sounded like the had less sustain so the notes sounded short. Maybe the area they where contained made a difference.

    • @Ryarios
      @Ryarios Год назад +10

      I ‘listen’ to pianos. The looks of many of the expensive ones do nothing for me other than make me cringe. I would be much more impressed with the gold leafed one if that were the just wood finished to that color with the grain still visible, I think.

  • @historyfan0651
    @historyfan0651 Год назад +233

    I'm more worried with Vancouvers obsession with expensive Fazioli's

    • @mehere8299
      @mehere8299 3 дня назад

      Hey Siri, where does the best Fazioli salesman in the world live?

    • @zx7-rr486
      @zx7-rr486 День назад

      Blame Trudeau

    • @historyfan0651
      @historyfan0651 День назад

      @@zx7-rr486 lol

  • @YaelSharon3410
    @YaelSharon3410 3 месяца назад +64

    The 50$ one and the 700$ one sound like saloon pianos you hear in the movies, I think both have a charming nostalgic sound to them... I can also tell the difference when you play the expensive ones, but somehow i still prefer the two aforementioned. Maybe it reminds me of days at my great aunt's place or some other wholesome times. Thank you for sharing this video, it was a delight to hear you play.

    • @BrandyBalloon
      @BrandyBalloon 2 месяца назад +3

      It's the "faults" that give them their unique character. Perfect is all the same.

    • @01blaval
      @01blaval Месяц назад +2

      Agreed🎹🤠👍🏼

    • @zx7-rr486
      @zx7-rr486 День назад

      I'm guessing they're slightly out of tune .. gives them more "character"!

  • @KIR______
    @KIR______ 5 месяцев назад +86

    По ощущениям: цена свыше 100000$ уходит уже в дизайн и роскошь. Разница есть, но небольшая и, вероятно, зависит скорее от геометрии и настройки.

    • @pavelcrocus574
      @pavelcrocus574 3 месяца назад +18

      мне показалось, что более старые фортепьяно в деревянном дизайне звучали лучше, в последних моделях с дизайнерскими наворотами звуки были дребезгом или мой телефон так воспроизводит

    • @trashcan7340
      @trashcan7340 Месяц назад +5

      ​@@pavelcrocus574😂
      - Ваш Паваротти - картавый и в ноты не пропадет.
      - С чего ты взял?
      - Да мне Мойша вчера по телефону напел.
      Ну, ты нашел, как слушать различия в звучании разных пианин. Ты хотя бы средние наушники одел, что ли...

  • @victorhugotoledocofre1366
    @victorhugotoledocofre1366 Год назад +552

    For those wondering about the piece Lordão is playing, it's Frédéric Chopin's "Grande Valse brillante" in E Flat Major, Op. 18 (1831-33) 👍

    • @LeoVS44
      @LeoVS44 Год назад +25

      For me, a dumb illiterate listener, it sounds confusing sometimes, as if jerry was running from tom over it.

    • @victorhugotoledocofre1366
      @victorhugotoledocofre1366 Год назад +25

      @@LeoVS44 Yep, agreed. The use of classical music in Tom & Jerry cartoons was a very clever move from Hanna-Barbera in those days.

    • @owengrant9066
      @owengrant9066 Год назад +3

      cringe

    • @skildude
      @skildude Год назад +5

      Knew it was Chopin Just didn't know the tune. He like all the other composers has a very distinct style. My grand parents lived on Chopin St in Detroit. They pronounced it Cho-pin. I assume that is the traditional way to pronounce his name in Polish.

    • @victorhugotoledocofre1366
      @victorhugotoledocofre1366 Год назад +4

      @@skildude And in French as well!! 👍

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam Год назад +519

    This man casually returned after a month just to ask if we can hear the difference, respect

    • @Lord_Vinheteiro
      @Lord_Vinheteiro  Год назад +188

      Can you hear the difference?

    • @kellymccarthy7109
      @kellymccarthy7109 Год назад +60

      @@Lord_Vinheteiro NO I'M DEAF PLEASE SEND HELP

    • @Lord_Vinheteiro
      @Lord_Vinheteiro  Год назад +296

      @@kellymccarthy7109 Beeethoven was deaf too. And he could hear everything!

    • @cdevidal
      @cdevidal Год назад +58

      Took a month to travel the world to play all those pianos, respect

    • @pedrolantyer
      @pedrolantyer Год назад +16

      ​​@@Lord_Vinheteiro pretty sure Beethoven had better tone perception about the music playing inside his head, then most of us would have while looking at an EQ Spectrum

  • @SpiriScope_Kaleidoscopes
    @SpiriScope_Kaleidoscopes 3 месяца назад +16

    🎹🎹Thanks for the comparison. I live in Vancouver but didn't know we had so many wonderful (and expensive) instruments here. Nicely done!

  • @rockonguitar8117
    @rockonguitar8117 4 месяца назад +5

    That little ditty you played on the Flying Fazioli was pretty cool! Thanks for sharing!

  • @richardwheeler7821
    @richardwheeler7821 8 месяцев назад +271

    As a piano technician of 35 years I've always favoured the Steinway D, it's a hard piano to beat and generally perform well, they are the piano workhorse that's proven itself for over a century and a half.

    • @alexreeves2686
      @alexreeves2686 7 месяцев назад +18

      Nothing beats the Steinway model D, all these pianos shown keep going up in price based on its design. They all sound awful

    • @kaseywahl
      @kaseywahl 6 месяцев назад +4

      My father is a piano tuner and he swears by the Steinway D.

    • @richardwheeler7821
      @richardwheeler7821 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yup@@kaseywahl

    • @excavatoree
      @excavatoree 6 месяцев назад +8

      "That's a priceless Steinway." - Mrs. Leverlilly
      "Not any more." - Inspector Clouseau

    • @richardwheeler7821
      @richardwheeler7821 6 месяцев назад

      Classic!!!!!
      @@excavatoree

  • @kipmistralllc5257
    @kipmistralllc5257 5 месяцев назад +167

    I liked the $50 upright and the next one up, the best. I was a piano technician apprentice for the premier piano technician in the U.S. in the 70's-80's. He was flown all over the country to voice (not a tuner but worked with them) symphony pianos. In the studio in Phoenix, we restored all kinds of wonderful old pianos, uprights and grands alike, and my boss was already warning about the use of teflon bushings and other non-organic materials in modern brands, against how the pianos were originally made and how they needed to be restored using the same organic materials. Wool felts and hammers, felt bushings, animal glues, even ivory keys were hard to find from used sources at that early time. To me, all the really expensive grands sounded very bright and harsh, might have been in part the show room acoustics, but I'd rather have and hear the richer tone of the organic older instrument. Thank you so much for your excellent video and the illustration that reminded me of my early training.

    • @johnvalencia9927
      @johnvalencia9927 4 месяца назад +5

      yeah man, I liked the first two the best myself. They actually had a vintage sound, and not because they were out of tune. They were just interesting sounding...had an old sound.

    • @priest_of_Egupt
      @priest_of_Egupt 3 месяца назад

      О времена...

    • @OmegaPaladin144
      @OmegaPaladin144 3 месяца назад +3

      They make think of a western saloon piano.

    • @YaelSharon3410
      @YaelSharon3410 3 месяца назад +1

      I don't know much about pianos but I agree with you, instruments back in the day were made with real natural materials and that must have something to do with how they sound. I also prefer the 50$ and 700$ ones! They sound like the pianos our great aunts and grandma's had. A nostalgic sound that carries something beyond what an expensive modern one can render. I also noticed that these two aforementioned were upright pianos, since I don't know much about the subject,.maybe that's why they sound different?

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 2 месяца назад

      New York Steinways already abandoned the use of teflon in their actions from what I know🎹🎶

  • @stanpopovsky
    @stanpopovsky 3 месяца назад +16

    99% of the audible difference in sound is the difference in the sound of the rooms in which these instruments are installed. For a correct comparison, recording must be done in the same acoustic environment.

    • @c0nct3d
      @c0nct3d 23 дня назад

      Such a waste to see expensive pianos in random places, its like a supercar that was only ever riden to go in a trailer, to sit in some collector's basement.

  • @CiceroINFJ
    @CiceroINFJ 4 месяца назад +7

    My favorite is the Flying Fazioli, the one made of steel, weighing 6 tons and mounted to the building. I really liked the sound of that piano.

  • @hargoniyamaki5168
    @hargoniyamaki5168 11 месяцев назад +240

    The Hoffman T161 upright really has spectacular tone for a piano with such a modest footprint. Loved hearing it.

    • @whatsupwithsteve
      @whatsupwithsteve 11 месяцев назад +5

      Yes it was really "warm" sounding, I liked it too.

    • @catyronwode
      @catyronwode 11 месяцев назад +3

      I called it the best as well. The tone is so rich and warm. A lovely piano. The runner up for me was the Barthol and Berlin.

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 10 месяцев назад +3

      Ok I think he got the labels mixed up because the Hoffmann T161 is a grand piano. The upright piano you are liking is a C Bechstein Concert8🎹🎶

    • @Dwendele
      @Dwendele 8 месяцев назад +2

      That one actually had the most pleasing sound to my ears

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@Dwendele the Hoffmann T161 is the grand piano that came before the upright. The upright before the first Fazioli is the Bechstein Concert8🎹🎶

  • @grinpick
    @grinpick Год назад +88

    I'd buy a ticket to hear this guy play on a $2 piano.

    • @ModelA
      @ModelA Год назад +3

      Me too

    • @organboi
      @organboi 11 месяцев назад +1

      Really? Ugh.

  • @manuelm5664
    @manuelm5664 4 месяца назад +2

    Excellent performance on any piano, sir!🎹👋👍👋.
    The Hoffman piano sound was night abd day after hearing the old and worn pianos. The Hoffman piano was our dad's gift to my brothers and i. Dad does not play any musical instrument but he has a keen ear to choosing best sounding piano in any price range.
    At least he was able to see a YT video of the gold Fazioli piano in Vancouver a week before he become ill and passed away in the hospital. 😂😢❤🎹🙏

  • @clavier4612
    @clavier4612 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for the tour.😊

  • @user-xf8th6xy6j
    @user-xf8th6xy6j Год назад +147

    *Timestamps:*
    0:00 _1956 Haunted Piano,_ *$1*
    0:03 _66-Key Small Piano,_ *$50,* Equivalent to Taxi Ride
    0:16 _1915 Barthol & Berlin,_ *$700,* Equivalent to an Iphone 13
    0:31 _New W. Hoffmann T161,_ *$46,998,* Equivalent to a New Grand Cherokee L
    0:59 _New C. Bechstein Concert 8 "Intarsia",_ *$99,998,* Equivalent to a LG Rollable Smart TV
    1:15 _2020 Fazioli F183 in California Walnut,_ *$275,000,* Equivalent to a Shipwrecked 1907 Heidsieck Wine
    1:45 _2021 The Cloud Fazioli,_ *$355,000,* Equivalent to 12,5 Bitcoins
    2:26 _2011 The Origami Fazioli,_ *$375,000,* Equivalent to a House in a good district
    2:50 _2020 The Floating Fazioli,_ *$700,000,* Equivalent to 700 Nelore Cattle
    3:20 _2017 The Butterfly Fazioli,_ *$1,200,000,* Equivalent to a R66 Helicopter
    4:10 _2018 The Kengo Kuma Fazioli,_ *$1,500,000,* Equivalent to 23kg of gold
    5:00 _2013 The 24k Gold Leaf Fazioli F228,_ *$3,000,000,* Equivalent to a 4ha Island in Brazil
    P.S. As a Chopin enthusiast, your playing made my day, Vinheteiro

    • @-argih
      @-argih Год назад +3

      I think the last one is "4ha" or 4 hectares

    • @Hoaxer51
      @Hoaxer51 Год назад +4

      While I enjoy looking at a gold ring, or a nicely made gold bracelet, I wasn’t real fond of the 24K gold piano. My favorite was the beautifully crafted California Walnut piano.
      Thank you for listing all of these amazing pianos and the details to go with them.

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 Год назад +1

      You had me at Jeep Grand Cherokee L😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🎹🎶

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 Год назад

      I'd get a grand piano over a grand cherokee l anyday🎹🎶

    • @r.s.4174
      @r.s.4174 11 месяцев назад

      The smart TV and the whine were silly. Who wants to have that?

  • @LordFyrestone
    @LordFyrestone Год назад +49

    I remember I got to play a Bosendorfer at a piano gallery once. The shop owner was like "Do you want to play a really expensive piano? It's like sitting in the seat of a Lamborghini." I said "Sure" and sat down at the keys. I was so nervous to play something so expensive that I ended up playing "Chopsticks" and doing improv on top of it. lol It was still an amazing experience.

    • @amarteville426
      @amarteville426 2 дня назад

      le Bösendorfer grand queue Impérial . .
      LA ROLLS'ROYCE des pianos !
      j'ai eu la chance d'y donner à 2 reprises des concerts en soliste ...
      inoubliable ...
      la première fois, j'étais toute jeune , le Saint Instrument était cocooné dans une église , j'ai très rapidement compris qu'il fallait dompter la (sublime et superbe ) bête : j'ai obtenu l'autorisation d'y passer la nuit ( l'on m'a " enfermée" dans l'église ), j'y ai passé 10 inoubliables heures , avec un résultat idyllique .
      C'est le piano de mes rêves ...
      Mais les tirages de Loto boudent mes mises ..
      Cette "marque "de piano a la particularité de multiplier toutes vos intentions pianistiques /poétiques /avouées/secrètes etc ...
      ...En bien comme en mal !
      Pour les pianistes qui ont un jeu un peu dur , ils n'ont plus qu'à partir en courant ...
      le son "un peu dur " devient du mauvais béton inécoutable.
      et ainsi de suite .
      Bon, c'est pas tout ça , mais QUI M'OFFRE UN BÖSENDORFER ? (grand queue Impérial , de préférence ...)

  • @RY-fe3rt
    @RY-fe3rt 4 месяца назад +8

    Nice of them to let you play them instead of locking them up and cordoning them off! Also interesting that the 'better' they become, the more digital they start to sound. 😁 I'll stick to my Yamaha CLP 745 in polished ebony, thanks... when I get it. Great video!

    • @BrandyBalloon
      @BrandyBalloon 2 месяца назад

      That would be because digital pianos use samples recorded from high end acoustic pianos.

  • @aldolammel
    @aldolammel 4 месяца назад +3

    Thanks, Mr. Bernaschek. Outstanding.

  • @ellegaardYT
    @ellegaardYT Год назад +79

    I can make a million-dollar piano sound like a plastic piano. this is my specialty😂

  • @trebleclef8284
    @trebleclef8284 Год назад +71

    The fact that he traveled who knows how far away from his city to play these pianos for us is significant ❤❤❤ keep it up vinheteiro

    • @Ejai1
      @Ejai1 10 месяцев назад +5

      It was all in Vancouver bro lmao

    • @trebleclef8284
      @trebleclef8284 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Ejai1 Bruh

  • @VALtube77
    @VALtube77 5 месяцев назад +38

    Характер звучания разный у всех инструментов, разница в деталях тоже есть. Первые 3 играют просто и без акцентов на деталях. Все остальные играют примерно одинаково с разным характером, причём не всегда более дорогое играет лучше. Последнее естественно играет идеально и с большой разницей от других.

    • @user-ld2ob4wc5j
      @user-ld2ob4wc5j 3 месяца назад +11

      да абсолютно идиотский тест звучания, окружение разное везде. В идеале их нужно тестировать в абсолютно идентичных условиях. Да и люди смотря это в ютубе, с ограничениями качества платформы не могут оценить адекватно

    • @alex_XR
      @alex_XR 2 месяца назад

      там ещё разные инструменты пианино и рояль по этому звук разный но они похожи

    • @HumanOneGoodGirl
      @HumanOneGoodGirl Месяц назад +1

      Мне не понравилось выбранное произведение. Раздражает

  • @chesteris777
    @chesteris777 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for video and music✨

  • @mishibird
    @mishibird 9 месяцев назад +75

    For me the biggest jump in quality was when he moved up to the Hoffmann upright. I have had one of these for over twenty years and it has moved continents with me. It’s such a lovely instrument. Such great color, cantabile and the ability to voice different lines with ease. I never felt I was missing out on not having a grand.

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 8 месяцев назад

      He got the labels for the Hoffmann T161 and Bechstein Concert8 mixed up🎹🎶

    • @conwaytwt
      @conwaytwt 7 месяцев назад +7

      I've been wondering who moved my continent! Now I know you and your piano are responsible. 😉

    • @mishibird
      @mishibird 7 месяцев назад

      @@conwaytwt I see what you did there. Nice

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 Год назад +103

    I hope you enjoyed Vancouver! The differences are somewhat muted by the speaker on my phone but the artistry comes through just fine 😍

    • @ejb7969
      @ejb7969 Год назад +1

      Absolutely not.

    • @shriyansgadnis
      @shriyansgadnis Год назад

      @ΙΧΘΥΣ - Discepoli di Gesù 🔥 bot

    • @shriyansgadnis
      @shriyansgadnis Год назад

      @ΙΧΘΥΣ - Discepoli di Gesù 🔥 ah well I retract my previous statement about you being a bot

  • @stco2426
    @stco2426 29 дней назад +1

    Nicely played and well edited.

  • @mariefricchione437
    @mariefricchione437 3 месяца назад +10

    I applaud this pianist who is a virtuoso and a showman! Love what he plays whenever I listen. Good video-absolutely loved this video🌟

  • @carminegugliotti2981
    @carminegugliotti2981 Год назад +70

    No one is going to argue that Faziolis don't have a beautiful tone, but the amazing thing is that Paolo Fazioli and his company manage to do whatever the client wants (even build pianos out of bizarre casing materials) and still retain that magnificent sound and key action, which is unlike any other piano that's been built. Italian craftsmanship at its finest. I think you could commission Fazioli to put a piano in a dumpster and expect the same level of sound quality and key feel, and that's why they start at almost $300,000.

    • @kosmosyche
      @kosmosyche 8 месяцев назад +8

      The metal piano at 2:53 sounded really harsh and unappealing, even though it looked cool in a brutalist sort of way. I respect Fazioli's craftsmanship, their concert grands are among the best in business on the highest level with the best of Bösendorfers and Steinways, but the metal piano is just no. I understand that at that point it's a work of art rather than an instrument, but honestly they shouldn't have agreed to do that for any money if they were to put their name on it. It's not a good representation of their brand in terms of sound. lol

    • @mohamadghasabi6854
      @mohamadghasabi6854 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@kosmosycheyes, it was harsh to my ears too.

    • @josehenriq90
      @josehenriq90 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@kosmosyche TOTALLY agree!

    • @RKumono
      @RKumono 8 месяцев назад

      I agree for the most part. These are great artwork pieces, but I did think that the Flying Fazoli had an interesting variation in sound. What caught my attention was the last piano, the Gold Leaf, interestingly had beautiful reverb and echo. Whether this was the room it was located in, or something about the make of the piano itself, it has a wonderful sound. Personally, I'd say the improvement isn't worth the cost if it's because of the gold plating though...

    • @lennyvalentin6485
      @lennyvalentin6485 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@RKumono There's a roughly zero percent chance the gold plating had anything to do with the way the instrument sounds. Gold leaf is incredibly thin (to the extent that the total amount of gold on that piano most likely is just a few grams), and also very soft, so would not be very likely to interact with the sound in any meaningful way.

  • @Mikkel_2407
    @Mikkel_2407 Год назад +290

    These comparisons are definitely helping me understand their worth lol

    • @cdevidal
      @cdevidal Год назад +51

      My piano is the value of a pizza slice

    • @Lord_Vinheteiro
      @Lord_Vinheteiro  Год назад +119

      @@cdevidal I have many with the value of a pizza slice.

    • @Lampshade8712
      @Lampshade8712 Год назад +8

      ​@@Lord_Vinheteiro can i buy one?

    • @fazliddinerkaboyev6568
      @fazliddinerkaboyev6568 Год назад +1

      @@Lord_Vinheteiro What do you think of "Fritz Dobbert" piano

    • @michas.2821
      @michas.2821 Год назад +1

      @@Lampshade8712 for this conversation i whould pay my part of pizza for you.

  • @DamianDeEu
    @DamianDeEu 5 месяцев назад +3

    Is the mic setup identical in all examples? This is astonishing!

  • @tarakolisnyk1429
    @tarakolisnyk1429 3 месяца назад

    I am jealous that you got to play all those beautiful pianos! And so many in Vancouver! I might have to visit a few to see them in real life. Beautiful. And beautiful playing too, 👏

  • @scottishisaac2497
    @scottishisaac2497 Год назад +39

    Welcome to my city of Vancouver! Its an honor to have such a talented pianist amongst us!

  • @eschelar
    @eschelar 6 месяцев назад +13

    The steel flying faz, the butterfly and that last one really stood out to me. Lot of nice pieces in there though.
    Mad props to vinheitero for this seamless and beautifully played presentation.
    It's really nice to hear him just sit down and play. Absolutely in his element.

  • @joaoluizandradetoscani7726
    @joaoluizandradetoscani7726 5 месяцев назад +26

    Vinheteiro o sr. É um músico e um pianista maravilhoso ❤

  • @michaelreilly569
    @michaelreilly569 5 месяцев назад +4

    Thank-you so much. This was much fun to hear and see your playing the different valued pianos.

  • @Helder-
    @Helder- Год назад +208

    Enquanto artistas nacionais buscam uma carreira internacional, o Lordão faz sucesso na gringa e busca o reconhecimento nacional rsrsrsrs mito

    • @Lord_Vinheteiro
      @Lord_Vinheteiro  Год назад +206

      No Brasil infelizmente ninguém gosta de música clássica.

    • @josuerodrigues4441
      @josuerodrigues4441 Год назад +15

      Néh não!! Mas é difícil trazer uma boa cultura musical para país deplorável.

    • @ruivasconcelos4097
      @ruivasconcelos4097 Год назад +11

      "Primo", não me leve a mal, mas permita-me uma dica sobre uma coisa que não faz a menor diferença para os brasileiros, mas para os americanos é gravíssima: quando for escrever algo que americanos vão ler, evite o riso kkkk (mesmo com quatro k, e JAMAIS com três), é muito parecido e pode confundir-se com kkk, da Ku Klux Klan, muito mal vista e causa de escândalo para eles. Eles podem entender errado e pensar que você (e/ou, no caso, o Lorde Vinheteiro) pertence(m) a essa diabólica organização.

    • @vlw..7267
      @vlw..7267 Год назад +4

      ​@@Lord_Vinheteiro é porque você não se atreveu a tocar música instrumental brasileira (in loco), aí verás o que é falta de reconhecimento e mérito no Brasil... A música clássica ainda tem muito mais valor no Brasil do que a nosso autêntico choro por exemplo.

    • @joaomatheus8882
      @joaomatheus8882 Год назад +1

      Kkkkkk o Lorde faz o caminho contrário

  • @ausilialee9215
    @ausilialee9215 Год назад +14

    It's eye-opening to see so many beautifully-designed pianos made from different materials. Though it's hard for me to draw a parallel comparison of their values with the hints provided. Great performance as always! Bravo!🎉

  • @agricolkern4483
    @agricolkern4483 4 месяца назад +4

    The two pianos that sounds best for me through my speakers is the Fazioli F183 and the Cloud Fazioli. Perhaps my judgment is altered by the aesthetics of the instrument because visually I prefer
    the Fazioli F183.

  • @laurentlouisducourretgravereau
    @laurentlouisducourretgravereau Месяц назад +1

    Merci. Superbe présentation de pianos du plus rustique au plus surprenant dont les sonorités sont évidemment exceptionnelles. Personnellement j'aurai plus fait une présentation avec un choral de JS Bach. Mais quoiqu'il en soit merci à vous. 👍⚜️

  • @_PlainPiano
    @_PlainPiano Год назад +69

    I love the sound of that Bechstein 1:00 ❤️
    Thank you for let us admire some of the most luxorious piano's in the world and play on them !
    (Beautiful performance btw 👏🏻👏🏻)
    On the last piano I guess you was sweathing because you were afraid of broking a string 👀😅

    • @IdentifiantE.S
      @IdentifiantE.S Год назад +2

      Yeah it's really great I wouldn't even touch it when I see the price 😅

    • @MCYUTELAT
      @MCYUTELAT 11 месяцев назад

      Truly and utterly Grand!!! Love them all from the haunted to the priciest! 😄

  • @Ianneitor
    @Ianneitor Год назад +24

    The piano differences are mostly found if they are played with love and with good hands :) Loved the video

  • @nurann3389
    @nurann3389 Месяц назад +2

    Отличная подборка для кругозора,благодарю ,да и музыка ,в конце хотелось аплодировать...Слух у меня таки есть,слишком по-разному было звучание😂

  • @RicardoM492
    @RicardoM492 21 день назад

    que paz de espírito e tranquilidade trás ver seus vídeos... vc manda mt bem nisso.

  • @lizzard2252
    @lizzard2252 7 месяцев назад +5

    Vinheteiro developed a problem with his finger joints after training for many hours in the past. At the end of the video you can see him flexing his fingers to relieve the pain. Beautiful to see the talent mixed with your hard work!

  • @andy888008800
    @andy888008800 Год назад +18

    Today I learned that Vancouver has lots of crazy-ass pianos.

    • @MiScusi69
      @MiScusi69 Месяц назад

      And all from Fazioli, which is actually an Italian brand!

  • @noch_92
    @noch_92 3 месяца назад +4

    я не музыкант, но по-моему пианино с роялем сравнивать😮
    как классический полный аккардеон с хорошей гармошкой.
    всё хорошо в меру, но не все её знают, поэтому Бог и хотел чтобы мы становились этакими сомелье потихоньку во всём и в первую очередь в отношении качеств личностных. я так думаю...
    ведь и за мульён(1000000) пианино играет не само.😅

  • @pawe553
    @pawe553 5 месяцев назад +1

    I can hear the difference until the fourth piano (W. Hoffmann T161). I still can't hear the difference in sound quality, but the music from each subsequent piano sounds really beautiful :)

  • @chrisnowacki5663
    @chrisnowacki5663 Год назад +182

    For me, it's not so much the difference in sound, but rather the uniqueness of every piano itself. From the $1 to $3,000,000, they all have their own character and tone that don't just play the music but instead, produce a musical experience. They all give me joy!

    • @art1434
      @art1434 Год назад +3

      ...to watch.

    • @Fire-Queen420
      @Fire-Queen420 9 месяцев назад +1

      Poetry seeps from your hand❤

    • @amadeus.k331
      @amadeus.k331 8 месяцев назад +2

      Fazioli pianos are a complete waste of money ... No difference in sound between a 150K Steinway (Steinway actually sounds better) and this overpriced crap from Fazioli; the rest is just fluff and pointless aesthetics.

    • @uganda_mn397
      @uganda_mn397 5 месяцев назад

      Well, uniqueness and quality don't always go hand in hand

    • @Ricardo__Milos
      @Ricardo__Milos 5 месяцев назад

      The Fazioli ones don't offer any "musical experience" if you don't see them. They're just ostentatious tools...

  • @e.castlerock8454
    @e.castlerock8454 Год назад +4

    How fun that you got an opportunity to play all those pianos! I love watching/hearing you play.

  • @danteredgrave3435
    @danteredgrave3435 4 месяца назад

    Amazing differences of each piano!!! This is that case when cost does mean!

  • @johnfarmer9818
    @johnfarmer9818 4 месяца назад

    Boy! Vancouver sure does love a good piano!!

  • @richardbates6311
    @richardbates6311 8 месяцев назад +5

    Good job man - what a lucky guy you are, getting to tour/play all of these wonderful pianos.

  • @00yiggdrasill00
    @00yiggdrasill00 Год назад +3

    Those are some lovely bits of craftsmanship. That they even let you near them let alone play them is amazing.

  • @pedroroldan6947
    @pedroroldan6947 2 месяца назад

    En sonido me quedo con el gold 24K. Tiene algo que me encanta. Pero todos son magnificos. Gracias Maestro! Soy guitarrista pero amante del piano!.

  • @SerhII1984
    @SerhII1984 Месяц назад

    I loved the flying one. Sonic light of endless harmonics. Played the video on my McIntosh hi-fi system.

  • @beawriting
    @beawriting Год назад +82

    I love these videos! I am not a professional musician, so the only thing I can say is after a certain point in the prices they seemed very similar. Of course, this is from my iPhone. I imagine that in person you would get a better feel. And those custom pianos I image are priced for the customization not just the parts that make it sound good.

    • @caelestigladii
      @caelestigladii Год назад +1

      And it’s on youtube too. I believe they manipulate sound quality.
      The best recordings are made through analog methods. Even the best digital audio recorders won’t ever match analog. And youtube is far from the best.

    • @replacesoundboard
      @replacesoundboard Год назад

      Yeah, RUclips is compressing both the video and the sound, which means a lot of quality is lost between the playing, the recording media and then uploading it.

    • @djhofer6187
      @djhofer6187 11 месяцев назад

      @@caelestigladii no offense, but that is silly. Anything one might find preferable about analog gear (outside of placebo effect), has everything to do with the gear used…not the source recorded. Some analog gear sounds like trash. Some sounds subjectively good because of the way it literally distorts the recording - that’s right, analog character comes from harmonic distortion, not fidelity. Further, what do you even mean by “analog”? Any and every mic used is going to be “analog” on the front end, and most likely the back. Preamp, maybe or maybe not. But then what…are you suggesting that if they’d recorded to tape it would be more transparent? Lol. No. Bottom line, all other things being equal, a well done digital recording at adequate bit/sample rate is going to represent the source as it actually is better than any vague, nondescript allusion to an “analog” signal chain. There’s finer details one could consider about a/d conversion, but all this hooplah folks regurgitate about analog universally being better is very uninformed. Some gear sounds great, just as some software processing sounds great. But that has nothing to do with accuracy and fidelity of raw recordings. Peace.

    • @djhofer6187
      @djhofer6187 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@replacesoundboard true. But the fidelity lost with the audio I’d bet 99.9% of folks can’t hear, and it’s applied across all the pianos, so it’s a constant. Of far more significance is the mic and the room the instruments are in.

    • @replacesoundboard
      @replacesoundboard 11 месяцев назад

      @@djhofer6187 One thing for certain is, no matter how hard I try to record my own upright, it always fails to be as magnificent as when I actually play it; although it partly has to do with my not knowing how to record properly.

  • @le4122
    @le4122 Год назад +20

    That's exactly what I want to see Vinheteiro. Best video on your channel

  • @telsonalves8060
    @telsonalves8060 3 месяца назад +2

    Feliz Ano Novo. Que vídeo sensacional.

  • @karlsonkab51
    @karlsonkab51 Месяц назад

    (-a higher bitrate codec could help) with such beautiful playing I wish you had access to the fabled Siena Pianoforte. What microphones and spacing were used and were they used throughout this seemless video?

  • @Wecoc1
    @Wecoc1 Год назад +76

    I can't believe he actually bought all those pianos just for this video! Thanks, Vinheteiro!

  • @TheRealMrSue
    @TheRealMrSue Год назад +12

    I literally just got into piano and I am loving your videos. Awesome content!!🎉

  • @iantellam9970
    @iantellam9970 4 месяца назад

    I think I liked the walnut one the best. But I don't know how much the room acoustics affected the sounds. The gold one was pretty nice tbf.

  • @lilamyr-composition3413
    @lilamyr-composition3413 11 дней назад +1

    ❤❤❤ Tanks you for this video si interesting

  • @matthewwalter9643
    @matthewwalter9643 6 месяцев назад +3

    My favourites were my teachers' black baby grand (either a Kawai or Yamaha) and my wife's late Grandma's beautiful upright mahogany (Yamaha I think?). And you sir chose a beautiful piece to demonstrate the different pianos with!

  • @caper770
    @caper770 7 месяцев назад +7

    I am not a professional piano player, but a piano fanatic. When I see one, I have to play a few notes on it. To me the sound is all. And I can honestly say, I have only played on about 5 pianos in all this time which has touched my heart. My first choice is Steinway, by far. I have also played on a Bechstein which had the most beautiful tone. The irony is that my own piano is a real cheapy, but with an excellent sound till about 3 years ago when the baseboard started to bend. Cant afford to have it fixed though

  • @nr6366
    @nr6366 3 месяца назад

    And Your Playing Vinheteiro. PRICELESS!

  • @richardsmith2289
    @richardsmith2289 Месяц назад

    Yes. There was a Bosendorfer at my school I never heard another piano sound like it - and I'm a horn player!

  • @ipurpleyou5227
    @ipurpleyou5227 Год назад +20

    Funny how I liked the sounds of some less expensive pianos more than the expensive ones

  • @dakotatwilight
    @dakotatwilight Год назад +10

    I can definitely hear the difference in tone and timbre of each and have to say that the only two I was not fond of was what I later found out to be the resin piano and the steel(?) Piano, being vision impaired I tend to listen first and later watch.

  • @user-to7rm5jf5k
    @user-to7rm5jf5k 5 месяцев назад +8

    Хорошо настроенный инструмент великолепно звучит, не зависимо от его цены.

    • @victorche3474
      @victorche3474 27 дней назад

      Вся прелесть в обертонах. Дорогие звучат точно, но очень сухой звук. Удивляют только ценой.

  • @maxmax1626
    @maxmax1626 2 месяца назад

    Hoffman and bechstein for my ears i like the sound. Honestly need to hear them in the same venue size to know which one I like the most.

  • @sitresjolie2343
    @sitresjolie2343 Год назад +4

    Thank you. Each piano had its charm; my favorite was the mellow tones of the Hoffmann. ❤

  • @f.michaelbremer-cruz2708
    @f.michaelbremer-cruz2708 Год назад +14

    Wow, that was so interesting. What has always amazed me most about your playing is that you do most of it from memory, often staring at the camera and doing it so brilliantly. That said, it's stunning to consider the market value of some of those pianos. Thanks for sharing this with us. :)

  • @gerrymcdonald6194
    @gerrymcdonald6194 3 месяца назад +3

    We had a Gerhard Heintzman full-size upright piano at home when I was a kid. It is now almost 125 years old and still plays very well. 5 generations of our family have learned to play piano on it. It's still beautiful, sounds great (given professional tunings along the way), and has a few small scars from festive drink glasses across the top. We still have the original key for the keyboard cover. This piano is a Time Machine; it stores family history, family memories. It show up in so many family photos .. some going all the way back to WW2. This piano is like family ... we'd grieve if we let it go. Pianos are (can be) special .. very special.

  • @VST-PianoswithClassicalM-nr9df
    @VST-PianoswithClassicalM-nr9df 3 месяца назад

    The Hoffman T161 had the best sound in my ears. The tones merge together, something that I miss with the expensive Faziolis.

  • @silasqueiroz8707
    @silasqueiroz8707 Год назад +96

    A verdade é que não tem preço termos um musicista como você Vinheteiro representando nosso país. Parabéns pelo excelente trabalho. O melhor vídeo de todos pelo trabalho de reunir todos esses pianos.

    • @borjalg6448
      @borjalg6448 5 месяцев назад

      Por que se parece com um estrangeiro?? @@patricia78788

  • @FuchsPiano
    @FuchsPiano Год назад +20

    The best quality piano, I have heard and played on, was a full size grand Steinway and Sons piano, with ivory keys. It was amazing. And I could here the difference in each piano. I really enjoyed your performance of Chopin’s Grand Valse Brilliant. Great Job🎉🎉🎉 And by far, the gold piano was my favorite. Keep up the great piano playing😄

    • @Zerbey
      @Zerbey Год назад +2

      Really high end Steinways almost sounds too good to my ears. Brilliant pianos of course, but I dunno I prefer a bit of character.

  • @georgytarasov3497
    @georgytarasov3497 5 месяцев назад

    0:59 New C. Bechstein Concert 8 "Intarsia", $99,998, Equivalent to a LG Rollable Smart TV 👍
    2:50 2020 The Floating Fazioli, $700,000, Equivalent to 700 Nelore Cattle 👍👍
    5:00 2013 The 24k Gold Leaf Fazioli F228, $3,000,000, Equivalent to a 4ha Island in Brazil 👍👍👍

  • @mytube456321
    @mytube456321 5 месяцев назад +3

    0:33 самое мягкое звучание. Дальше уже разницы не было, иногда даже хуже, особенно металлическая рояль (6-тонная).

  • @MikeKobb
    @MikeKobb 9 месяцев назад +9

    The Kengo Kuma Fazioli wins for me in terms of visual interest, but I preferred the sound of the more modest pianos, from the Hoffmann upright through the first Fazioli. Of course it's very hard to judge truly from a video like this because they are all recorded in different spaces and so on.

  • @leoorona1482
    @leoorona1482 11 месяцев назад +12

    Very nice video! In my opinion it is hard to really appreciate the differences when you listen to a recording, because it will always depend on the microphone you use to record, the ambient where the piano is located, the compression you choose to edit the recording, the chipset of your computer sound or mobile phone (the equalizer settings), the quality of your headphones or the speakers 🤭. Although you can hear the differences, at the end of the day the perception and acceptance will be different to each person. I think there are many models among them which sound fabulous.

    • @jenniferh1416
      @jenniferh1416 7 месяцев назад +1

      The only one I didn't immediately like was the Flying Fazioli which is attached to the buliding. Sound with my speakers was jarring compared to the others.

  • @samuelhernandez732
    @samuelhernandez732 2 месяца назад

    Amazing sound congratulations pianist🎉😍🎵🎹🎶👍🥂

  • @user-pn6ub9qd8g
    @user-pn6ub9qd8g 5 месяцев назад

    The Kengo Kuma Fazioli Grand Piano - Great SOUND!!!! THANKS, THANKS, THANKS !!! A sound engineer with 20 years of experience.

  • @henryvanweeren7233
    @henryvanweeren7233 11 месяцев назад +4

    The fact some very beautiful and expensive pianos are here in Canada--and he travelled here to play them--is priceless. Thank you.

  • @sarahsercombe9845
    @sarahsercombe9845 Год назад +3

    wow so cool that you got to play all of those really unique and expensive pianos!!!! Great video!!!!

  • @Macias8200
    @Macias8200 Месяц назад +1

    Your son is so fortunate to have a father like you.

  • @elgaen555
    @elgaen555 5 месяцев назад

    The value equivalencies were interesting, how markets value things is wild.

  • @legionsofmarduk
    @legionsofmarduk Год назад +9

    I got to play a Fazioli F278 a couple of weeks ago. I've played Yamaha, I've played Baldwin, I've played Steinway, I've played Bosendorfer...all of them paled in comparison to the Fazioli. It was the best piano I've ever played. Hands down. At about $250k it's more than I'll ever be able to afford, but I can go play this one anytime I want so I'll definitely be going to play it again!

    • @KiKi-tf8rv
      @KiKi-tf8rv Год назад

      I’ve played all the others, but I haven’t played a Fazioli yet! Hopefully some day!❤

  • @janegreen9340
    @janegreen9340 Год назад +12

    I’m not a musician and I envy you your talent. My preferred instrument is the W Hoffmann T161 at a mere $47 000- it has a wonderfully rounded warmth to the sound and I immediately saw a candlelit ballroom filled with swirling dresses and tailcoats - also a joyous sound. Some of the high end stuff sounded so similar and was very brittle and harsh- not pleasant. As ever cost does not always reflect being classy and some instruments looked like expensive tat. A Really interesting film thanks.

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 8 месяцев назад

      By "Hoffmann T161" you mean the upright piano before the first Fazioli? That's the Bechstein Concert8. He got the labels mixed up with just those 2 pianos. Hoffmann is owned by Bechstein though🎹🎶

  • @YourHeroML
    @YourHeroML 4 месяца назад +1

    I love the 2 piano old rag sounds

  • @rileyoconnor2276
    @rileyoconnor2276 11 дней назад

    I was in vancouver today and i played on the cloud fazioli

  • @whatever3612
    @whatever3612 Год назад +26

    I can definitely hear the difference among the lower cost pianos. But the $100k-$1mil range become kinda blurred. I was however, very suprised that I loved the sound of the last piano. I think it's because you were playing the last part of the song which hits the lower notes where you can hear the full breath of the instrument.

    • @KingdaToro
      @KingdaToro Год назад +1

      And I can just imagine how much better that part would sound on a Bosendorfer Imperial with the extra bass notes!

    • @replacesoundboard
      @replacesoundboard Год назад

      It has a lot to do with the acoustic of the room. All the designer pianos were on hard floor, with hard walls and windows, whereas the last one benefited from wooden flooring, which is good.

    • @genegade
      @genegade 10 месяцев назад

      They're also basically all Faziolis

    • @bridaw8557
      @bridaw8557 9 месяцев назад

      It may also depend on acoustics of the building.

  • @sststr
    @sststr Год назад +16

    Once you get around $300K, any differences in sound quality there might be become too slight for me to distinguish. Whatever I thought I heard might be different, I could just as easily chalk up to the difference in acoustics as to the pianos themselves. Tough to be sure when they are each in a different kind of acoustic environment. Although I guess the $3 million gold one did sound different enough to not just be acoustics, but presumably the gold making the difference. Not sure it was actually a better sound though, just a little bit different in a way that probably wasn't the acoustics. Several of them I expect the absurd price to be to the artsy nature of the frame rather than anything particularly special about the materials or mechanics of how it plays.

  • @phaedrus2633
    @phaedrus2633 4 месяца назад

    Your piano playing.....priceless!

  • @freshspiritworks4535
    @freshspiritworks4535 Месяц назад

    Wow, you can hear the difference - what amazing pianos - true pieces of art!