I was listening to this last night after some time with the Lord and hearing his heart for what is here and right now. This message is even more relevant in 2023. A providence moment is about to break out.
Wow. All I can say is wow. Soooo soooooo insightful. Thank you Kris for listening to God. Obeying God. We the church need words like this. Examples like u to show us how to live and listen and obey🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Thank you for your view, it is thought proving! When God hardened pharaoh’s heart, I always assumed it usurped pharaoh’s will. But now I’m not sure. When I have carried a screaming child against their desires: I played a role in hardening their heart (in the situation)
Thank you so much pastor Kris for being a vessel for God's expressions. God has answered deep questions of my heart through your messages. I hope to connect with you when the Lord allows me the opportunity. Blessings
It was an amazing sermon when you gave it several years ago. So sad that you edited it. It was prophetic. All of it. You are still looking at the elephant’s toe but the Lord will reveal the entire picture in His timing. Love you Kris!
This is an honest question; how do we know when to distinguish between the devil being a thief, liar, and destroyer and to contend in prayer because the “god” of this world is doing the “violating” VS. staying out of God’s way when HE puts leaders like Nebuchadnezzar/ Obama-Clinton in offices of leadership?
Great sermon, but you are using the term Free Will incorrectly. In all of the examples you gave, God never touched a person's Free Will, though He DID touch their Freedom. The example I like to use is a child who has been told to go to bed, and refuses to get up from the couch. Taking away their Free Will would be installing an implant in their brain that would force them to decide to go to bed. But if you pick them up and carry them to bed, you have forced the external circumstances, but not their Will, which is their ability to make their own decisions. If they do it out of fear of the consequences of NOT doing it, that's still not affecting their free will, they can still choose to be stubborn and face the angry father, but CIRCUMSTANCES encourage them to make different decisions. In your vision, you could have CHOSEN to stay blocking God, and He would have tossed you aside, and as you flew through the air, you would still be choosing to block God, because your free will was untouched, but your circumstances WERE touched lol Jonah for example, he used his free will to take a ship the wrong way, so God moved circumstances until Jonah was in a whale and able to contemplate his life choices in peace, and he changed his mind, not because God forced his will, but because God forced his circumstances. I believe it's important to recognize that a core aspect of God's character is that His Sovereign decision is to never force our free will, because then our actions are nothing more than a robot, and a loving Father has no interest in robotic children. I understand your message, and I love the sermon, I think this is just a poor choice of terms to use for the concept, since the Free Will is untouched, even as the freedom to carry out your choices IS limited. Again, back to the kid who may be carried, but their thoughts are not forced.
God's dealing with Pharaoh would be a good example of free will being usurped. "Then I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, so that he will pursue them; and I will gain honor over Pharaoh and over all his army, that the Egyptians may know that I am the Lord.” And they did so. Now it was told the king of Egypt that the people had fled, and the heart of Pharaoh and his servants was turned against the people; and they said, “Why have we done this, that we have let Israel go from serving us?” So he made ready his chariot and took his people with him. Also, he took six hundred choice chariots, and all the chariots of Egypt with captains over every one of them. And the Lord hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and he pursued the children of Israel; and the children of Israel went out with boldness. Exodus 14:4-8 NKJV
@@dagman85 nothing there involves taking away free will, God is predicting that His actions will harden Pharaoh's heart, He's not saying that He's going to FORCE Pharoah to make bad decisions. Think about clay and wax. Heat softens one and hardens the other. God knew that Pharoah was made of clay, and would be hardened by the application of heat. Since Pharoah was being a really mean slave driver, he obviously had a personality that would be likely to fight God.
@ke6gwf - there are other verses during other plagues where it says that Pharaoh hardened his heart, but this passage (as well as a few other places) makes the clear distinction that the Lord hardened Pharaoh's heart. First the Lord said He would, and then it says that He did. Your reinterpretation of what it says clearly seems to be running scripture through the lens of your theology rather than just taking it for what it actually says.
@@dagman85 if you look at the Hebrew, the word the English translators changed to "hardened" means to "fasten onto", and is mostly translated to "strengthen", be "strong" etc. In the other verses it says that Pharoah hardened his own heart, in other words, he made his will strong against God, which shows that he already has the tendency and habit of resisting God, and so God is just using his own traits. So when God grabs on to his heart, it gets strong in resistance. To put it another way, we can tell from Pharaoh's personality that it did not take divine intervention to force him to resist God, that was the natural bent of his Free Will, so God just had to grab on and trigger that habit and then Pharaoh used his free will to fight God. If you have ever been around someone with a short temper, you know how you can pull the trigger and get them predictably angry with a word or action, without affecting their free will.
Pastor you can proclaim you don’t have to suggest. You walk in authority very few alive today do. I pray that the words the world has thrown at you will bounce off like the pebbles they are and you will proclaim to what you see like when you were young.
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Seriously such a good message, good good good
Given the craziness that hit the world less than 3 months after this message I am so grateful for the providence of God!
I was listening to this last night after some time with the Lord and hearing his heart for what is here and right now. This message is even more relevant in 2023. A providence moment is about to break out.
Wow. All I can say is wow. Soooo soooooo insightful. Thank you Kris for listening to God. Obeying God. We the church need words like this. Examples like u to show us how to live and listen and obey🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
You realize he owns a Lmabo right?
AMEN❣️ Every four generations, the Lord steps in, MEN!
Always so… blessed by your sermons‼️🕊✝️ Thank you Sir‼️
Our Lady of America, pray for us!
Thank you for your view, it is thought proving! When God hardened pharaoh’s heart, I always assumed it usurped pharaoh’s will. But now I’m not sure. When I have carried a screaming child against their desires: I played a role in hardening their heart (in the situation)
Thank you so much pastor Kris for being a vessel for God's expressions. God has answered deep questions of my heart through your messages. I hope to connect with you when the Lord allows me the opportunity. Blessings
It was an amazing sermon when you gave it several years ago. So sad that you edited it. It was prophetic. All of it. You are still looking at the elephant’s toe but the Lord will reveal the entire picture in His timing. Love you Kris!
Excellent Word Kris,,, I’ll definitely “Wear Out the Tape” on this one,,, 👍👍. Joshua
Very very good
Such a heavy word
This is an honest question; how do we know when to distinguish between the devil being a thief, liar, and destroyer and to contend in prayer because the “god” of this world is doing the “violating”
VS. staying out of God’s way when HE puts leaders like Nebuchadnezzar/ Obama-Clinton in offices of leadership?
New Age is not avoided by this man /church
Great sermon, but you are using the term Free Will incorrectly. In all of the examples you gave, God never touched a person's Free Will, though He DID touch their Freedom.
The example I like to use is a child who has been told to go to bed, and refuses to get up from the couch.
Taking away their Free Will would be installing an implant in their brain that would force them to decide to go to bed.
But if you pick them up and carry them to bed, you have forced the external circumstances, but not their Will, which is their ability to make their own decisions.
If they do it out of fear of the consequences of NOT doing it, that's still not affecting their free will, they can still choose to be stubborn and face the angry father, but CIRCUMSTANCES encourage them to make different decisions.
In your vision, you could have CHOSEN to stay blocking God, and He would have tossed you aside, and as you flew through the air, you would still be choosing to block God, because your free will was untouched, but your circumstances WERE touched lol
Jonah for example, he used his free will to take a ship the wrong way, so God moved circumstances until Jonah was in a whale and able to contemplate his life choices in peace, and he changed his mind, not because God forced his will, but because God forced his circumstances.
I believe it's important to recognize that a core aspect of God's character is that His Sovereign decision is to never force our free will, because then our actions are nothing more than a robot, and a loving Father has no interest in robotic children.
I understand your message, and I love the sermon, I think this is just a poor choice of terms to use for the concept, since the Free Will is untouched, even as the freedom to carry out your choices IS limited.
Again, back to the kid who may be carried, but their thoughts are not forced.
Thank you for your explanation. ❤
God's dealing with Pharaoh would be a good example of free will being usurped.
"Then I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, so that he will pursue them; and I will gain honor over Pharaoh and over all his army, that the Egyptians may know that I am the Lord.” And they did so. Now it was told the king of Egypt that the people had fled, and the heart of Pharaoh and his servants was turned against the people; and they said, “Why have we done this, that we have let Israel go from serving us?” So he made ready his chariot and took his people with him. Also, he took six hundred choice chariots, and all the chariots of Egypt with captains over every one of them. And the Lord hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and he pursued the children of Israel; and the children of Israel went out with boldness.
Exodus 14:4-8 NKJV
@@dagman85 nothing there involves taking away free will, God is predicting that His actions will harden Pharaoh's heart, He's not saying that He's going to FORCE Pharoah to make bad decisions.
Think about clay and wax. Heat softens one and hardens the other.
God knew that Pharoah was made of clay, and would be hardened by the application of heat.
Since Pharoah was being a really mean slave driver, he obviously had a personality that would be likely to fight God.
@ke6gwf - there are other verses during other plagues where it says that Pharaoh hardened his heart, but this passage (as well as a few other places) makes the clear distinction that the Lord hardened Pharaoh's heart. First the Lord said He would, and then it says that He did. Your reinterpretation of what it says clearly seems to be running scripture through the lens of your theology rather than just taking it for what it actually says.
@@dagman85 if you look at the Hebrew, the word the English translators changed to "hardened" means to "fasten onto", and is mostly translated to "strengthen", be "strong" etc.
In the other verses it says that Pharoah hardened his own heart, in other words, he made his will strong against God, which shows that he already has the tendency and habit of resisting God, and so God is just using his own traits.
So when God grabs on to his heart, it gets strong in resistance.
To put it another way, we can tell from Pharaoh's personality that it did not take divine intervention to force him to resist God, that was the natural bent of his Free Will, so God just had to grab on and trigger that habit and then Pharaoh used his free will to fight God.
If you have ever been around someone with a short temper, you know how you can pull the trigger and get them predictably angry with a word or action, without affecting their free will.
Pastor you can proclaim you don’t have to suggest. You walk in authority very few alive today do. I pray that the words the world has thrown at you will bounce off like the pebbles they are and you will proclaim to what you see like when you were young.
You got the prophecy wrong 🗿
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