The TRUTH about Pre-emergent. What THEY DONT WNAT YOU TO KNOW.
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Am I crazy to be telling people to stop applying pre-emergent on their lawns? Well the reality is, I'm not telling people to do that. I'm saying that certain people probably don't need to do it. In this video I'm going to explore multiple different pre-emergent options as people have done many times in the past. As we come in the spring time this becomes a very popular topic, and some people need reminding every year. I'm hoping that the people who watch my channel have pretty much got this dialed in.
Now, if you have stories about how you have not applied to Pre emergent and how it's gone poorly for you in the past or how you've had great success, why don't you let everybody know down in the comments below. You'll notice, I'm not asking anybody to subscribe or to make any comments to my videos anymore. You are all grown ass people and you can figure out how and when that's appropriate.
Pre-emergent is a wonderful crab grass preventer, you're pretty much still guaranteed to have some weeds as not everything can be controlled. However, doing an application will potentially save you some time in some money later on in the season. As for me, I'm going to continue on my 25+ year trend of not applying any pre-emergent to any lawn that I have ever owned.
I’m in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and pre emergents are important here, especially if you have neighbors that don’t pay attention to weeds.
I agree. If I had warm season turf I’d push them hard.
John your timing is spot on as usual, I was just on the phone with my brother and we were discussing pre-emergents. Him and I watch not only your channel but others like you in the constant battle to achieve greatness in our own turf? We believe that Mother Nature is an adverse opponent!
She can be a tricky B if you’re not playing the same game.
If mother nature is your opponent then you better get used to losing. Pitiful americans.
If I had your scenario 100%, unfortunately like most, my neighbors have weed fields and not grass.
It happens. But remember, I’m literally surrounded by all manner of natural weeds. All sides are a war zone. So I created natural
Buffers
I'm debating skipping the preM myself this year and see what happens. Eventually you really don't need it every single year. Definitely skipping any video for it. Well done JP. 👊🏻
You’ll know real quick if it was a good idea
@@Lawncology I may just to have to find out 🤔
You ever win the Poa battle?
John, we talked about this last year. I haven't used a pre on my home lawn in 13 years. I've hand pulled a few crabgrass plants in all that time. I have many residential lawns I think I could skip.
I agree
As a fellow applicator I am just too damn nervous to find out that 90% of my lawns had crabgrass after not using it and the sheer time and materials needed to correct my mistake could be tragic!
@@reallmccoy9043 yes you’re right and I hope I made that clear in the video that as a pro, it’s a tool that can save you big time later. I spoke with a guy this January, a large LCO in Montana. Same situation as me, never applies because there is no environmental pressure.
I agree, no Pre-E 😀 I know I am a nutcase but I actually like to seed in the spring now, so pre-E options are obviously small. We have consistently wet spring but fall has been hot and dry for years now, and so I throw when I know it will rain.
I reserve the right to change my mind in the future but for 20 years… no pre
Great video John. I hand pick the weeds in my lawn here in upstate SC but I’m not brave enough to go pre-emergent free with a dormant Bermuda lawn
I wouldnt do it if I were you either. warm season turf has a different level of affliction in the winter especially.
I skipped the last two apps and am paying for it now. In Florida, weeds grow year round. Been targeting weeds with glyposate foam until the lawn gets over this drought. Then it's spraying and praying, growing and mowing time.
You need to stay on the pre game. Like 2x annually.
Thank y so much for this. Everyone talks about get prodiamine down but nobody really talks about it not working for broadleaf. In western WA we don’t really have crabgrass so prodiamine is a waste. Thanks for enlightening me. Btw how do you have time for videos when you should be skiing EVERY SINGLE DAY with your snow cycle. What an epic year for you guys. I hope you’ve been enjoying it.
Just read the labels for target weed suppression and you’ll know the best choice to use.
We hear ya !! Lather rinse repeat. This area of turfgrass management has not changed in many years
Pretty much. Already trying to figure out how I’ll change the front message of this without changing the vintage portion for next year
Nicely said. Pre-e going down soon. Enjoy the videos. Thanks
Thank you!
Put down prodiamine last month here in Ft Worth and will put down Dimension and Gallery next week. Better living through chemistry, I say! Seriously though, my neighbors in the subdivision don't do much pre emergent, so we have lots of weed pressure (both grassy weeds and broadleaf) in the 'hood.
You need to keep it up. My lawn vs yours are different animals and if I was there I’d do what you’re doing.
Johnny I only have a problem with clover, But I still have that stuff you told me to get a few years ago I forgot the name, It seems all my neighbors weeds blows over to my house👍🤣😂
Lol. You gotta stay on top of that. It was T-zone right?
Yes that's right buddy, you remembered!!
As usual great info: can’t wait for pileahose videos 😅
Coming soon!
I spray my bluegrass until it’s as yellow as sweet corn with Prodiamine
😂😂 Love it
Here in east Texas it never really gets cold enough where grassy weeds are dormant so pre emergents have little effect.
How about that. See em, nuke em
Don't make a Rookie mistake, stick with your preemergent it's good insurance and keeps you off your knees all day pulling winter weeds in the spring.
First time home owner here and I wasn’t aware of pre emergent and my yard turned to shit. Gotta lose to learn I guess
My goal is to build up the lawn enough that pre-emergent isn't necessary. It will be tough in my area, but it's a good goal to have.
You’ll always need it in that Bermuda, the fescue is 50/50. You might be able to alternate years. But I wouldn’t stop yet.
Good info. For me there will be no pre - em being put down. Never had crabgrass and other weeds will be hand pulled of Glyphosate. 😁
you and me pal.
I've never used it, maybe I should have years ago, but now I don't feel like I need it that much or at least not anything anymore that requires a blanket full yard apply ....and then when I do get any weeds now, they only come later in the year after they mature in neighbor lawns, and have new seeds drift over; so by that time any early spring pre emergent wouldn't be effective
Just a little 2-4d and you’re good to go
I don't use it. Weather is so crazy here it makes the timing difficult. Selectively using post emergents as needed early in the season is what I do.
It’s way easier and you use so little that way.
My lawn has gotten super thick over the past 2 years and for me, it's a waste to spray the entire 2 acres since no weeds can ever get through the grass. The 5lb of prodiamine I have will probably last the ext 10 years. But I do apply it early spring and late summer to the flower beds, areas under pine trees and along the property lines, and driveway edges to keep down crabgrass and Japanese stilt grass. It's really good stuff but to just use it all over, all the time is a waste. Know your property and your problem areas and treat accordingly.
I’m in Denver Colorado and the past two years I’ve noticed the “great poa annua” has made itself known within my front yard. My front yard over the years has taken a beating(courtesy of someone purposely trying to kill my grass, great neighbors) but keeps coming back better and better until this crap grass has popped up.
My yard is a bluegrass, so any helpful suggestions to get rid of this crap. Thanks.
Watching this video and being dejected because corn gluten meal is the only pre-emergent available to us. (West Coast of Canada)
That sucks.
I'm in the transition zone and grassy weeds are abundant. This is the first year trying a pre-emergent to get the upper hand and maybe next year won't be so challenging.
give yourself a few years before making any big changes
All in
always
I live in the Texas panhandle(Amarillo) area and the wind blows all the time. I have a mix grass mostly Bermuda. I have the ferti lome containing Dimension. Am I putting the wrong stuff down??
good info John ! appreciate it
Glad it was helpful!
Hands down Scott’s products are the best!
Their sales numbers would agree… or at least they are the most widely available and recognized brand for homeowner fertilizer
Damn you and your black and white vintage footage hurting my eyes 😆 🤣
Vintage footage can be tough on people 😂
I’ve never applied a pre emergent and have weeds 99% under control with occasional hand pulling and once a year tenacity
I will continue on not applying to my own lawn. Not only that, if I started a lawn care company again, I still wouldnt use it here.
I have prodiamine but have honeybees this year an im going towards not putting out a premergant. Lawm has bin lush an vigorous. Deep root system.
I planted my lawn from dirt last spring had no choice couldnt have a mudd pit with the kids this is my second year coming up and I have poa all over tje place so iam at war
Lol. Nuke it
Is Dimension safe for children and pets? If not, is there a safer alternative?
The label will dictate safety standards and when used as directed, yes it is safe. A good run of thumb is to water the material I’m deeply and allow to dry before returning to play.
What is best for tons of dandelions and black medic
…. I’m a lawn enthusiast that has applied many brands of liquid macro & micro nutrients to my lawn(waste of time & money). Go with a reputable brand like Scott’s or Lesco granular fertilizer and your lawn will be the envy of the neighborhood.
I love personal lawn care as it all opinion and rarely based on equality of facts. Fact: if you put the same amount of nutrient out in equal measure whether granular or liquid, you will get the same result.
Fact: liquid dissipates faster than granular. Irrigation frequency as well as weather conditions play a huge factor in overall results. Definitely be an opinion on equal results
…. Also liquid applications can be skewed by several variables like water pressure from source , nozzle flow rates
@@davidscales1464 yeah…. I think you’re overthinking it. If that’s your thought process, granular is even more skewed as there’s less uniformity, unclear amounts moving through the spreader, potential clogging, walking speed, and inability to easily weigh your material.
@@davidscales1464 if you apply urea granular and urea liquid the same day, your lawn will fade at the same time.
Good job, you got your view with your click bait thumbnail. The majority of people who are using preemergents know what weeds they have and why they need it.
So you’re saying that I communicated with you enough to peak your curiosity? That’s awesome! And I don’t believe most people know what weeds they have. “Most” people can identify one or two weeds, “some” can identify more.
@Lawncology just something to think about; short-term vs. long-term gains. You got a view now bc I thought I needed STOP applying preemergent. What I really learned, however, is that your titles are click bait. So, while I'm still learning from pros, like yourself, I'm more likely to scroll past your videos so as to not waste my limited time seeking the guidance I need.
@@seapanther53 excellent. Did you watch and learn? If you did watch, you’d know that I talked about what to consider rather than saying flat out, “it’s time to apply pre emergent everyone!” And if you in fact we’re hoping to not apply pre emergent by watching the vid, you could consider if you need it or not. Further, 6 different ore emergent options were talked through with benefits included. Now, the proper eye catch was all that was needed for truly long term gains. More new viewers are finding the content and that’s the point. I am going to be showing so many ways to save time and get rid of the “have to’s” that plague lawn care content. Further, this video is seeing people stay on for a long time. The retention is massive. This means the message does in fact match the title. I wish I was good at clickbait titles, I’m just not.
Is there any one out there that can keep this lawn stuff easy. I am looking for a process that will get me out there and take care of the lawn. Simple steps. I like organic and don't mind digging up a few weeds, but I do have weeds and they piss me off. I have a life other than lawn dedication and do not judge those that love this work and it shows. From all the information out there, it seems that pre-emergent is good in the spring, but you better get the timing right. I don;t like that option, is there something else. I cut my grass once a week and water if needed. I like Melorganite or something similar to apply on the dates indicated on packaging. I will seed in the fall. Can that be an option. Respectfully.
Send me an email answers@lawncology.com
I’ve skipped Pre E now 2 Eatons in a row I spot spray or pull the few weeds I get . I’m either lucky or just goes to show folks trying to make a buck off of your ignorance ? Either way I got the greenest yard in the neighborhood and it’s already green to star the spring
What can I use for clover?
Sulfentrazone
First Aussie 😁. Honest John. 🤠
Straight up
Okay, put out each of these at max rates is what I heard........ 🤣🤣🤣
Full send
Washington is anti anything that may help your lawn , can't get prodiamine or any product that contains prodiamine shipped to Washington, I've tried to no avail
You probably also used old footage so you could get to the slopes faster 😂
Yes. Damn it you know me so well. What I did do is trim the fat out of that video
Why does you just mix all of these and spray it once time instead of having sooooooo many options.
Because some work on some grasses, some in others, some on some weeds and some in others. There’s many tools in a Swiss Army knife and you never use them all at once.
Indaziflam #1
specticle fan?
Your timing stinks😢
Lol
Muahahaha, yes, yes, follow this foolish advice... we crabgrass seeds are counting on your foolishness to pave the way for our WORLD DOMINATION! Most of the world is grass covered, and WE will do the infesting! (Seinfeld fans will get that last line, maybe).
Lol. Hopefully they actually watch the video and apply for all the reason mentioned… Newman.
Hiya John!…most beautiful lawn in Utah brother!…Mr Dan De Leon moved to French Lick!👏👏🤣🤣☮️👑🏀
Lol. Thank you my friend!!!