Tuning The 2017 F-150 Raptor
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024
- www.morepowertu... Some might say the 2017 Ford F-150 Raptor is perfect from the factory. Already featuring a significant jump in power over other F-150 models with its 450hp & 510 lb-ft of torque (at the crank) twin turbo 3.5L Ecoboost, it's certainly an excellent performer both on and offroad. We're here for those discerning drivers who want just a little (or a lot) more.
This particular Raptor started off the day putting down about 361hp and 391 lb-ft tq to the wheels on our Dynocom chassis dynometer with its original Ford programming, which is reasonable compared to Ford's numbers, considering the amount of drivetrain loss we expect on a vehicle of this type. After several dyno runs in hot conditions, that same truck with an MPT 93 PR-X tune file loaded in through the OBDII port managed to put down 452hp and 486lb-ft tq! That's with no modifications to its powertrain and 93 octane. In addition the power jump, MPT also improves throttle response and shifting.
This same level of performance is now available to Raptor owners almost anywhere around the world. Once you receive a tuning package from MPT, you can then copy your stock file and email it to MPT along with your tune selections, modification list, and any special requests. Your bespoke tune files are then created and emailed to you. Just drop them on a micro SD card, pop it into your nGauge tuner, and program your vehicle.
The truck feels so much lighter with the increased throttle response and part throttle boost. Wide open throttle boost is increased over stock by +/- 15% which equals out to around 3/5 psi, depending on the rpm. Peak boost is around 20psi +/-.
With this tune you're looking at huge increases in low end torque and acceleration, faster 0-60 times, quicker 1/4 mile results, shift points optimized with a focus on performance.
The shift points in normal mode will hit all 10 gears, with downshifts tightened up putting you in the right gear at the right time. This means power to the wheels when the driver demands it.
Sport Mode and Tow Haul mode retain most all of the positive features from Ford with minor tweaks to improve over all feel.
All driving modes drastically improve throttle response and feel, but click to Sport mode and this improvement is multiplied. Sport mode has a noticeable increase in throttle response above that of the already increased base mode. The PR-X tune is only available for premium fuels of 91 octane or better.
The nGauge is a highly advanced yet easy to use programmer and data logger that looks good on your dash. It can swap MPT tunes in minutes and even return to stock, making it 100% reversible.
The Brushed Metallic face with Chrome bezel and 6 programmable LED's on the face of the device make for a clean install whether you decide to place it on your dash, window, or in a vent. The included stylus on the resistive LCD touch screen is easy to use for loading tunes, setting up gauges or recording data logs. The stylus serves a dual purpose, as the back end of it is the perfect size to use for ejecting the microSD card from its slot in the bottom of the nGauge.
Gauges, Data, and Logging at it's Finest.
No need to lug around a laptop for accurate data logging results, the nGauge is capable of high-resolution data logging on-device. Hundreds of parameters are available for each vehicle, as well as plenty of generic OBDII parameters that can be accessed for use with many different makes and models. The data conveniently records directly to the included microSD card automatically, when you stop the data log. Even if power is unexpectedly shut off, the nGauge will automatically save the current data log recording and you can access it at your PC, Mac, or Linux computer just by plugging the nGauge in through USB or loading the microSD card into a card reader, then transferring the file. This is a simple click, drag, and then, drop operation. No additional software to install, no drivers to deal with, no headaches.
Up to 6 individual parameters can be display on-screen at once, with the option to set up a few different layouts with different parameters saved and ready to record as soon as you set them up. Upon initial logging setup, the nGauge will detect the vehicle, save all available parameters specific to that vehicle, and when you decide which ones to view, it will save your gauge setup for when you return to it in the future. A set of 6 programmable LED's on the face of the nGauge serve as warning lights for any of the parameters you choose.
I got my new 18 Raptor last August. I went with mpt with their awesome reviews, I got the 91 tune and it was alright but I wasn't thrilled I guess I was expecting a bit more and I know my 35 toyos are super heavy and take up Alot of hp, I soon after got a e30 and e50 tune from them with e85 mix and my gosh it literally feels like it gained twice as much hp as the 91 octane feels. I love it my daily driver raptor now! Have not lost to any truck I raced yet.
Did you upgrade the fuel pumps & injectors? Just curious
It's unreal how bad Ford is destroying the competition.
Hello There destroying? In what way? Making a 80k truck with v6 turbos. Come on man get real.
Johnny where should I start. Leading in sales. Innovation. Towing. Power. Ford has been taking all the chances and killing it. From taking the powerstroke to an in house build. To these monster ecoboost engines. You must be a dodge guy. Only ones dumb enough not to see how they're leading the industry. And everyone else is following. Sucker.
Nope. Got me a 2018 Tundra (second tundra). Putting monster and ecoboost in the same sentence is laughable. Sure sales are good but I'll be able to buy a used one with 50k miles for 1/2 price because the resale on them are shit. You must be the guy that likes all the fancy new electronics and uses the truck as a grocery getter.
I want a naturally aspirated v8 (no cut off cylinders/v6 turbos crap) with a heavy duty rear end.
Johnny they haven't updated the drive train in the tundra since 08. And the Ford is technically more heavy duty since it can tow more. And the front end on those tundras look like a sports car. That truck you bought must come with a free box of maxi pads and a big black dildo. You see way more girls driving tundras for a reason. Girls truck. And free maxi pads. Why would it be laughable? Over 500lb feet of tq from a 3.5 isn't monster to You? Your not a real gear head. Probably just a pussy.
Johnny 80k? You do know that you can get them at MSRP if you do your research right? I am.
Might have just sold me, been holding out on a tune for my 2018 waiting on real data like this.
Anybody concerned with the HP increase when super-hot? I feel like the truck may have de-tuned itself for a reason that the aftermarket tune is over-riding. I'd like to see how it performs when hot for a while and if heat soak becomes an issue.
Wow, now it makes more at the wheels than Ford says it makes at the crank stock! Good job!
You do realize this isn't a nissan 240 with pizza cutter tires and a toothpick strength driveshaft and trans... The amount of power this thing is able to get to the ground is very impressive.
2017 H.O. 3.5 Raptor tunes to 452 hp/486 tq
2017 F150 3.5 tunes to 449 hp/472 tq
2016 F150 3.5 tunes to 408 hp/526 tq
One of the reasons I was contemplating moving into the Raptor was the engine. My tuned 2016 is holding it's own in the power department. Second guessing now.
zackcrazy do you mean 426 not 526tq??
@@ryants1 408/526 are the numbers quoted on their website. Check the dyno graphs for the 2015-2016 F150 tunes.
Does the time void the warranty?
Like the added "mustang revs swear bleeps" touch!
Just placed my order for the tuner today! Can't wait to wake up the beast with this tuner.
ChannelJay how is it?
That is a damn good result from a tune only think about if this truck was a fully built 2ND Gen
Where could you get a tune for a raptor
Would the dealers know we changed it?
I'm Concerned about my warranty...
JONNY JO In no way am I an expert in tuning so take this as a grain of salt. But I did read the dealer will be able to tell that that ECU has been reflashed. It has something to do with factory ECU numbers not matching what they have in the system.
I’ve heard that some tuners can “mask” this to make it seem like no one has tuned your ECU but I can’t tell you from personal experience.
Ya, This is something I can do AFTER my warranty is expired on my 2017 3.5. For now, I'll just have an un-tuned F150
Coming in late, depends on the dealership. Friendly Ford in Monroe Michigan gave the go ahead as long as you flash it back to stock for service. No warranty issue.
Do you have an aftermarket intercooler in this...i was looking at the Wagner and noticed they had 2 types (normal and Competition)...if the truck was to be a daily driver would you just go with normal Wagner Intercooler that i'm seeing for approx $990. I seen where the Competition said only non-daily driver raptors. I'm looking to get the intercooler with tunes.
Hey Terry, looking at Wagner's site, it shows one intercooler for the Raptor www.wagner-tuning.com/catalog/ford&df1=Ford%20F150%20Raptor
Here's the same one on our site, but with a massive discount once you add it to your cart ;-) www.morepowertuning.com/wagnerevo-200001119
I was looking on 5 star tuning and they have 2 listed(i already have a Ngauge and tunes from MPT)....just waiting on my truck to get here. I wanna do the Wagner Intercooler but want to be sure i'm not buying something that won't work on a daily driver. Here's the site that shows 2 types of Wagner:5startuning.com/product-category/2017-2018-f150-3-5l-eb-raptor/2017-2018-f150-3-5l-eb-raptor-intercoolers-pipes/ (feel free to delete after you look)...thanks.
Very nice! Did his black Raptor have factory exhaust and intercooler?
Thanks! Yes, those items were stock.
What if Whipple made a twin screw for the 3.7. Cyclone
TheReal NateDogg v6 isn't the best for twinscrew, makes things too tall and compact, or lots of tubing due to having no valley in the middle of the engine. there is something better tho, i1 programable procharger
Drake5153 well someone is currently building a 3.7 with a GT500 blower. Procharged is great it was just a cool thought to have a "Whippled 3.7"
Impressive. Wonder what a stock hemi does with equivalent tune. Same with a stock 5.0 with equivalent tune.
Most likely not even close since the 5.0 and the 5.7 hemi are naturally aspirated. With boosted engines a tune goes a long way since they are able to increase timing, air(boost), and fuel. When tuning an N/A engine you don’t have the ability to add more air to the engine to make more power so messing with timing will increase power a little bit. I’m sure there’s more to it than that, I’m not a tuner but that just my understanding of it.
John Vesely yeah I know a forced induction engine will see bigger gains. But just curious how much they get out of a 5.0 or 5.7
You might get 25 or 30hp but like was already said, a naturally aspirated motor has nowhere near the same tuning potential. Not even close. That little V6 will absolutely destroy those V8 motors.
How does the tune effect the other,modes, sport, jaha etc...
All of them feel better.
Where did you buy the fog lights on the black raptor?
When do you expect to have it ready for the 2018 Raptor?
Will this work with Taurus SHO 3.5 ecoboost?
Does sport mode change the power as compared to normal drive mode? I feel a difference in throttle response and gear holds but what about engine output?
No engine output is same. It's just that heigher up in rev ranges you get more power.b
Have you guys tuned any 17-18 E85 Raptors?
are you expecting good gains on the new 5.0 with the dual injection?
I have a 3.5EB Raptor, but I live at 7000' altitude - would I need to get custom-tuned by you guys or would you recommend the off the shelf tune?
so if you get a bigger intercooler and intake will that be accounted for in the tune? also, I'm a big proponent of every 75HP you go one step colder on the plugs - what do you recommend?
We can definitely account for a wide range of modifications in the tunes. We can also review datalogs from your vehicle to further dial in performance.
Whats the life expectancy of that motor with that tune running my guess there is no warranty from factory now ?
Wear and tear should be the same whether tuned or not. Depends more on how you drive. Same parts rotating and creating friction. You can easily return to stock programming as many times as you like.
What can a tune do for my 5.0 f150 2015
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5.0 works good but nothing compared to a ho raptor if the v8 doesn't have boost.
Anybody else notice 2 different trucks first it was white then black
Ha yes, at least two different trucks featured in this video.
The Website is no longer available!!
Ah, thanks. That page changed when we added support for the 2018 Raptor. Fixed the link www.morepowertuning.com/ngauge-mpt-2017-2018-35ecoboost-raptor
Happy New Year, Thanx for the 2018 Raptor Tune...gotta see if it voids the warranty or not.
So far our customers have had no trouble getting warranty work done.
MPT Performance a year later have you have any problems with warranty? Just bought a 19 raptor and thinking about buying this tune for it
Id like to see what power gains can be had safely on a 2015 2.7l ecoboost? just curious why you haven't dabbled with one yet?
We've dabbled, just not available yet for purchase. Gains are about 80hp at the wheels. Shoot us an email so we can put you on the waiting list.
I’m probably going to leave mine stock I’m trying to keep this truck forever
When it comes to increasing performance through tuning, we take a long-form approach that works within the framework that Ford has already established and retains or expands upon the safeguards they’ve engineered. Goal is great drivability and response in normal driving conditions while unlocking its maximum potential at wide-open throttle. Not pushing any components beyond what they’re capable of, but rather unlocking what’s already there.
Dude looks just like Gary Oldman
Which dude? Truck owner or tuner?
MPT Performance The tuner. A younger Gary Oldman anyway.
I was trying to figure out who he looked like until I saw this comment. Younger Gary Oldman like during the filming of "The Professional".
Upside 3600 Yes! That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm glad someone else thought so, I was starting to think I was alone in thinking that.
Maxwell Actual Gary Youngman
I would honestly stick with stock exhaust, god it sounds awful . Still like the truck, very impressed with the numbers it put down
Lol and if thats the stock exhaust it needs to be quiter
This engine (3.5L v6 Twin-Turbo) has already 450hp. You improved 2hp over stock. Very impressive.
Thanks, Patrick! You're probably joking, but for anyone else seeing this comment that might be confused, let's elaborate on Drivetrain Loss. Power figures advertised by auto manufactures are measured at the crank (big round pulley on the front of the engine). That means the engine is on a specialized stand (engine dynamometer), rather than in a vehicle and its not sending power through all the moving gears, shafts, and sprockets that transmit power (eventually) to the driven wheels. Here at More Power Tuning we use a chassis dynamometer ( aka dyno) to measure power output. That means the entire vehicle is strapped to a platform and its wheels spin big metal drums. The difference between power at the crank versus at the wheels is commonly referred to as drivetrain loss. On this particular Raptor, on stock programming and cool conditions, we measured 360hp and 391ft-lbs at the wheels, while Ford advertises 450hp and 510ft-lbs at the crank. After several dyno runs in hot conditions, that same truck with an MPT 93 PR-X tune file loaded in through the OBDII port managed to put down 452hp and 486lb-ft tq! For a more in-depth explanation of drivetrain loss, check out this excellent article by Super Street www.superstreetonline.com/how-to/engine/modp-1005-drivetrain-power-loss/
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Sounds like a dune buggy.
Sorry tune.
Sounds like a hair dryer.
i think your hairdryer might be broken
I'm more amazed at how inefficient the truck is, it's rated at 450hp at the crank and only makes 360hp at the wheels???
The trucks losing 20% of its power, that's horrible. The average drivetrain only loses maybe 10%
Kevin Bowman Its the 35 inch tires. They suck power up
20% is average on dyno
Kevin Bowman average is more like 14-16% dt loss on a 2wd setup this is a 4wd setup pushing 35 inch tires not 17-20inchds thats amazing for a 20% loss
10% is for two wheel drive street cars. Slap a transfer case in there and you start loosing more power then you add 35s
For all those that get excited with horsepower figures on dealership paper, rather than real world dyno figures...... Ford raptor 2017sucks 👎
Don't be to jealous now I love my 18 mpt tuned e85 raptor! Hauls ass!