Jimny: How Suzuki's 'Global Hit' SUV Failed in India?
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Maruti Suzuki Jimny is an SUV everyone wanted, but no one is buying it. Jimny is a car which has every bells and whistles that Indians SUV buyers can ask for, but Jimny has become one the biggest flop car from India’s largest automaker. In this video we will tell you what went wrong in the case of Maruti Suzuki Jimny.
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Its looks less masculine and almost like a child's toy.... People want bhokal these days... Otherwise it's far more practical off-roader comparing with Thar.
Thats the problem hum sab dikhabe ke piche vagte hai
To isse achi offroad to scrpio karo karleti he ,bat ye he ki Jimmy kabhi bhi thar ki compilatior thi hi nahi
@@Iamindusgamer Kbhi jimny ki offroading dekhi h? Scorpio ke 7 ancestors bhi nhi aaye the tab jimny aayi thi
@@Iamindusgamerkarti hogi par jimny jyada practical offroader hai. Offroader ka halka,patla hona ek advantage hai
@@gamesong6600 to compare classic ke sath karo na wo bhi offroad kar leti he
Driving Jimny since 13 months without even a single problem, one of the best off-roader vehicle available in India
Correct bola bhai mein bhi Jimny owner hu and its a damm good car
Mileage?
buddy the comparison is wrong - jimny was never the thar rival, but most of the automobile media compared it with thar and it impacted so much that it sold only 160units in jan 2024
Was the older gypsy model the rival of an old thar model ?
Yes however price is comparable to Thar and in India price is everything
Maruti themselves set it up as Thar's rival intentionally with the initial pricing and hype it was not just the media
Yes, actually it's a successor of Gypsy
@@mr.akash1996 Was old gypsy the wrong comparison of old Mahindra CJ5 Thar or old Force Gurkha 2013 model ?
I bought my Jimny last week. Loving it.
which model what cost which location
The more u drive more u love.... And stp watching u tubers..they dont know what is JIMNY
Jimny is rubbish
My dream car hope i can too grab it before its gone
🧢 @@Ms-a_1
Jimny failed just because of 1 reason,
It doesn't carry 'Gunda' look that thar offers
Almost 99% people who buy thar or any SUV drive in city or roads.
They buy it just for showoff and 'bhokaal'.
Tbh it hasnt failed, its like the nano scene. Ya selk something for indians thinking to do better for them and indians be like, "i dont wanna look poor" instead of looking at what the produxt provides.
Exactly people want to make their neighbours, their friends praise them having a bulky muscle car. Indians die for validation from society. Most of the buyers are millennials nowadays so they r maximalist and so r their vehicles.
Tbh yes…
I bought the Thar just for that and I am super happy…….
After spending so much money if I don’t get the performance and road presence… what the point even …
@@RishavBaruahThere is thing called Practicality let it be Chapri or galli ke gundey can’t understand this
@@RishavBaruah jimmy has the performance. Also the reason to buy car is for it's practicality not just for it's road presence
Foreigners buy Jimny for practicality, reliability not for showoff, thats why Jimny is popular around the world..
Meanwhile Indians driving wanabe Jeep(Thar) just for showoff, shooting reels not using for offroad !!!!
Jimny is perfect for Indian roads and with its small size it can go through narrow roads..
I brought Jimny in August 2024 and love it's compact design, milage and practility in city as well as offroading in mountains. ❤❤
I got mileage of 11.2 during my recent mountain trip to Bhaderwah in J&K. I am happy with Jimny as it is most VFM offroader.
Its not fail in india.. its only for true offroad enthusiasts.. also its a life style vehicle.. not for everyone.. .most of the people who are buying thar are 2 weel drive model.. I am glad that not everyone wants to buy this car otherwisw it would have ended up like thar.. so so common 😂..
Indeed. It's still managed to save it's charm.
@@FytttttdJimny has failed.. Number 1 reason for failure is the pricing.. No one buys suzuki car for more than 10 lakhs, no one should..
If this Jimny had come within 7 lakhs onroad price, it would have been a massive hit👍👍
@@O-G-zd4gb there are much worse cars priced above 10 lacs, suzuki or no suzuki. Yet Indians decide and buy those cars more for their size and showing off than practicality and efficiency. Our middle class mentality reflects in our purchase habits.
What about force Gurkha then 😂😂😂
@@Fytttttd This is where the Jimny wins. The struggles of the present will give it a leadership position in a niche and sought after segment of its own in the near future. Jimny owners then will identify themselves as a different breed of car enthusiasts. There will be no rivals of the Jimny. Thar is actually a "me too" car nowadays. Just like KTM bikes. No matter the cost; someone or the other has it. Thar owners look like 'wannabe' someone but not really there ! Most of the times the abysmal physique, male pattern baldness, gutkha stains, un-parliamentary vocabulary and obnoxious driving skills of Thar owners deceive them of the glory they so blindly wish to achieve on purchasing that behemoth. You need to be like Hulk to fill that bulk. Whereas the tiny Jimny fits everyone. No judgements.
Because
First they kept price very high
Than suddenly ther reduce more than 30% of price
Right
Jimny failed because
1 Less power
2 only petrol engine
3 No turbo
4 milage
5 Poor interior design
6 High price
7 Safety
Only one reason, size.
They should have launch 3 door too with better pricing
Quite right✅
5 door jyada pratical hai par ha pricing wali baat sahi hai
True
Exactly
I just came back from japan. They have only three door jimny over there. I don't think it's for Indian consumer market. Back seat is only for under 5 year old.
Maruti ko jimny ki three door ko launch karna chahiye tha, jo jyada popular hoti, lekin ye three door wali jimny maruti ki chhoti gadiyon ko kha jati. Isiliye shayad maruti ne three door pe risk nahi liya.Lekin jimny ka discount ke bawajood future nahi hai, isko discontinued kar dena chahiye, aur ho sake to three door wali jimny ko Baleno ke price pe launch karna chahiye.
3 door launch phle kr dete toh uska aur bura haal hota tab log bolte ki piche space nhi hai bilkul bhi as abhi bhi jo jimny aati hai vo 4 seater hi hai as per Nexa website 3 door toh bilkul 2 seater honi thi Maruti is very more smart bro in launching directly 5 door ye abhi bhi price thik kr de toh sale chal pdengi iski 1 se 1.50 lakh tk price drop hona chahiye Jimny ka
Its manufacturing wont be stopped. Don't worry. It's export is ~40x its domestic sales. The most they can do is stop selling in India. Which'd be disheartning for its owners.
It won't stop selling until the international demand is down.
Example is the old gypsy, it was produced heavily for the army hence the production was profitable, still people could get a new one on order,same applies to jimny
Jimny failed because of suzuki's overconfidence pricing.
Suzuki thinks they can sell any car with any pricing. Indian customer gave the reply.
Exactly! They priced it 5 lacs higher than what it should have been
Haters may hate , but Jimmny is better offroader than Thar
Right
Absolutely 👍
How? I don't have much knowledge about this but I want to know..
Well said
and no matter how big it grows it will remain under the penis
Jimmy failed in India for the same reason Nano failed. Indians want car for road presence. Why? Because they have the mentality if they are saving enough, labouring enough, spending enough to buy a car, they want to look big! Unless companies get this mentality they will fail. And this is the case with every price range. From 10 lakhs to 50 lakhs. People would not buy a Mercedes hatchback for 50 lakhs but a fortuner.
Blah blah blahh ...iitna bolte ho ...sarr dard karwa diya .
I am a Jimny owner , let me tell you why Jimny failed in short -
1. The indian consumer is obsessed with mileage . Jimny gives barely 9 km/litre in city drive
2. The indian consumer is very sensetive about pricing . Maruti did a big mistake by overpricing their Jimny and then slashing the price by not 50k or 1 lakh but a wopping 2.5 lakhs .The current owners including me felt really cheated n let down . No compensation was offered to the customers who bought the overpriced Jimny . I own 7 maruti cars including the Jimny but I will never buy a Maruti after this episode . So not only Jimny , the Maruti company as a whole is on the downward graph because they have lost the trust of their loyal customers . It takes a lot of effort to build a trust and a stupid, fickle minded decision to loose it all .
Bro don't worry .... You have bought a car that's still worth it. The only downside is that had you got a chance to purchase at a lesser price you could have added performance accessories that make the Jimny really shine to its fullest potential. The stock is completely worth it nonetheless. The overall engineering is spot on except the large turning radius. Please forget that people got the discount and enjoy your car. That was a great decision. It's an amazing car. Don't spoil your mood just because someone else bought it lesser price. The Indian market is just stupid for cars like these. I remember when our family had bought Fiat Grande Punto there were people who didn't understand our decision. They understood it 10 years later 😄.
If you have bought 7 cars, and that too from the same company, somethings wrong with u lol.
@@NYOOOOWhe is completely lying……. Must be a toddler
The only reason is india has thar global not
Number 1 reason for failure is the pricing.. No one buys suzuki car for more than 10 lakhs, no one should..
If this Jimny had come within 7 lakhs onroad price, it would have been a massive hit👍👍
Bro more than 40% price Indian govt takes as taxes... do you expect to Suzuki to make 4lakhs only while selling this😂
Bruh
Jb company ka raaashan khtm ho jaye tb 7 lakh me milegi abi raaashan full hai
Bring the price down by 3 lacs, make it heavy looking, change bumpers, add Cladding
Do u even wonder why its so popular outside of india?
P. S. Cz of it having none of the features thst ya mentioning lol and thats like a true budget offroader
Jimny ja production in India is more than Thar.Maruti exports most of them.The production is 250-300vehicles per day.
Its always the price point when someone is considering maruti ,it has to be in hyundai venue price point
Jymni is mostly owned by above upper middle class people who use it as a adventure vehicle not for daily purpose and Indian customers mostly prefer cars for their daily purpose. Thats why Jymni is sucess globally and failed in India.
Very good info on comparison with Thar & reasons quoted for mismarketing of Jimny.
They should have launched their original 3 door within 10 lakh on road 5 door was a mistake
would have sold like cutting chai
the near perfect research and then the narration is the punch, good work bro...cheers 🍻
The main reason is road presence. People want to look powerful in big road presence car. That is percieved as cool
Jimny looks far more better than Thar
Suzuki Management did very bad blunder with pricing. And didn't offered additional value like more power, wider interrior space, interrior upgrades etc.
Very nicely explained..... You hit the right spot.
8:40 Earlier Suzuki don't think India as suitable candidate for Jimmy and Launch a Substandard product "Gypsy" which clearly reflect there mindset about India. But as it was from the house of Suzuki they give this contact to Iconic car Designer "Dilip Chabaria". It was his first contact as a independent designer . Also over the period of time it was customised as per the needs of Indian market from General consumer to Defence Forces. So it was there mistake that doesn't provide upgrade to Maruti Gypsy and promoted there Jimmy to save the manufacturing costs which resulted them into there low sales.... because till date Indian army is unable to find the replacement of Gypsy because of there more weight carrying capacity design then the weight of the car , which is the unique feature of the Gypsy & make it suitable for true off roading....if it gets the all the jazzy features like 4WD latest interiors etc. it can beat Jimmy, which looks more like a toy car and Gypsy has a better road presenance....
India is the graveyard of good cars. This shows how large percentage of buyers are affected by chapri reviews
How safe is jimny (5 door) , is it same like other Suzuki tin cans ??
Reduce size
Improve Engine performance
Improve interiors
Give practical cost
And it will start rocking again.
Pricing and size was the main two points which put down the Jimny. Let's for a moment forget that Thar is what we are comparing it with and rather compare it with its predecessor the Jypsy which was out the reach of civilians. Jypsy deffinitely was a competition to the Thar. So when Jypsy had already created the necessary base for Jymy to launch how did Maruti screw up. If u compare the Jypsy and the Jymny, there too u can see a huge difference. At least the Jymny should have been priced lesser at the beginning, should have got all the bells and whistles that the hyrider was getting along with its AWD/4WD system. That would have still ensured some success. By size forget comparing the Jymny with the Thar. It does even compare to the Sonet which Kia is selling at half the price of Jymny.
Poorly thought of interiors, inferior plastics, underpowered engine. Maruti didn’t even try anything on jimney. They wanted money out of nostalgia.
You don’t know anything 😊
The media compared it to Thar, otherwise it was never a Thar’s competition. Jimmy is into another league and that league is of practicality!
Suv se tour aur hatchback se off roading kar rahe Indians
🤣🤣
Harsh reality
Dhoti khol di vro
@@throttlethingNumber 1 reason for failure is the pricing.. No one buys suzuki car for more than 10 lakhs, no one should..
If this Jimny had come within 7 lakhs onroad price, it would have been a massive hit👍👍
@@O-G-zd4gb bhai 7 lakh mein tumhe maruti Swift na mile, konsi duniya mein jee rahe ho
a perfect example of board room decision makers mismanagement.... 👎👎👎
The Suzuki Jimny represents a practical and sensible choice, but many people in our Indian society would rather spend more money on vehicles that mimic luxury or high-status brands for the sake of appearances.
Indian market need road presence and occasional off roading which thar provide in every manner. Thar have a great road presence and great interior and really good and even better off roading.
People who talk about less power and smaller engine are the ones who haven't used both these cars over a long distance. People who've put their jimnies to test over 4000 km tours know very well that the stable cabin, smooth engine and the capability to take on any terrain outweigh the bigger torque and power figures that are often not useable in most conditions.
During Monsoon be it Delhi or Bombay , one needs a sturdy vehicle with high ground clearance to get through the river like water logged roads. Diesel vehicles require urea. Jimny is light weight & has a high power to mass ratio that helps it wade the waters. Gypsy is basic but Jimny is advanced & safer with 6 airbags,Abs,EBD,hill descent control & 5 doors. If discounts continue it is an economic & reliable vehicle & with unmatched go anywhere capability.Maruti promoted Jimny as a rough terrain goer but not as an alternative to Thar. This notion was made by influencers. The average Indian consumer is too influenced by social media.Therefore products with a unique blend make it big abroad but find it tough to sustain the competition herein. Chevrolet & Ford cars are best examples.
I still feel not having a diesel version for jimny is a big miss!! The reason being in India only 10% of the people are buying these off roading cars for off road purposes and having a better mileage is very important
It's a common observation that Indians often overlook exceptional cars. This may be due to a lack of awareness or a prevalent mindset that undervalues quality options such as calling something chapri just because of a minority of people.
Most important is the unnecessary hike in price during launch. This was due to the greed of the company.
Despite this I like Jimmy over Thar. Because it is quite capable and practical as compared to Thar. Because Jimmy can be driven in Wild raw terrains in the jungle and can easily squeeze out from any tight spaces. If you are a true off-roader you will prefer Jimmy.
Try watching Faisal Khan's off-roading video on Jimny.
Fact is Indian consumers always makes wrong decision. Example is Ford and GM!!
JIMNY will have same fate. And by time when Suzuki stop Jimny in India, people will realise its value.
It's a lifestyle vehicle. Not a flop. Suzuki has to further give discounts. I love Jimnny
This should have priced under 10 lakh with 2*2 option
Suzuki should start using 1.2 litre Z series Engines with turbo in Jimny. And should give better grip tyres with larger section. Indians who buy SUVs in India do not think about mileage before buying it. With this engine it will rock
Pricing was the major mistake.
Increasing the wheel base of 3 door Jimny , with no platform R&D has ended up in a Design that ha s too many boundary conditions to create a proper 4x4 SUV that is compact , less heavy, for City, highways and off road. Having said this, with the available discounts Jimny is the only SUV accessible in India at around 15 lakhs and there shouldnt have been a comparison with others at all in the first place.
Totally agree with you brother.
Its Great machine but failed miserably due to wrong marketing. Company should educate buyers about what jimny actually is rather comparing it with Thar. Jimny has lots of strong points to stand as better off roader option. Maruti has started some campaigns to make the correction, it will take time but Jimny has to hold on lil more to be in the game!
Whatever you say, Im big fan of Jimny😎
Basically Petrol only model. CNG/DIESEL too should be offerred.
Most buyers felt its unreasonably high price is not justified, hence Jimney failed to achieve the volumes ! If the starting price is 9.99 Lakh (Magic figure) it would have succeeded!
With correct pricing and additional powerful engine options, Jimny sales can increase
Bro it has no comfort or anything apart from being a good offroader.....Thar before the facelift the old crdi one has more comfort than Jimny.
I like Jimny 3 door , i was very excited when they were launching the 5 door but when i saw the interior and the fact the prce was same as a thar or scorpio,why would i spent the same amount to get less whats already available in the market.Also coming from someone who needs a daily driver.
Jimny failed due to delayed launch in India. It could have gathered accolades if it would have been launched atleast 5-6 years ahead of the time when India had vacuum in compact SUV segment
Why Jimmy dosnt come in 4x2 front wheel drive
Jimny already overtook thar 2 door. 5 door thar roxx is already launched & it's pretty expensive. That means only Jimny is an affordable off-roader now And Jimny is 10000 times comfortable than thar
lol 😂
Jimny is 100000 times worst than Thar. Drive Thar and see you f 0 0 lll
Problem with we Indians are we don't know how to use Thar. We make fun of Jimny & those Indians who are celebs they own Wrangler. All three are not comparable with each other but the purpose is same that is true off roading which many people don't do.
Like people dont understand the fact that they are getting a 4x4 under 14l lol
Sabko bas bhaukai ki padi hai 😂
@@NYOOOOW Unhe offroading kyu nahi sujti Bhaukal ke ilava ?
Sabse bada issue pricing ka hi tha.. jo ki abhi bhi thoda overpriced hai.. wo sirf ek hi engine option k sath
9:26 थार को राजस्थान वालो ने ऊपर उठाया है एक तो इतने गाने बनाये है इसके ऊपर दूसरा थार नाम ही राजस्थान के रेगिस्तान पर है और हमारे एरिया के हिसाब से महिंद्रा की गाड़ियां बेस्ट है जैसे केम्पर हमारे यहां तस्करी ओर टक्कर मारने में ज्यादा यूज़ होती है😂😂😂😂 वेसे जिमनी मेरी फेवरेट है ❤
One of the most capable offroader/daily-use vehicle. Trust me it's better and more convenient than Thar.(3door)
But for look wise Thar is a chicks-magnet. 🤣
Jimny is the best to go extreme offroading and also very convenient to go around in small/tight spaces as i own one myself(base model). But for our highways and long trips with family I usually prefer my scorpio n as i feel safer in it.
Sadly, people like me overpaid for the jimny since it's on heavy discount lately. Over confident suzuki India with overconfident prices. Kind of disappointing.
The problem with automakers is they generalize the indian consumers. Jimny is best for hills. The bhaukaal type vehicles are usually desired by those in the plains.
It's a great car not for Indian public. But people need to understand most people don't need a thar or jimny. They need a passenger car instead of off roading vehicle
The old GYPSY was an awesome vehicle, simple, cheap and reliable. The new gymny is expensive to its opposite of simple and rugged.
The practice Indian buyer has cheaper options the this expensive vehicle, which is neither cheap nor luxurious.
I don’t agree with this, the main problem bad driver comfort. Thigh support is almost nil which is not suitable for long drives. That is much better as value for price. Those who are pure suv riders they want performance than price and mileage. I tested it for long but big problem is bad drivers comfort compared to same priced suvs.
Nice story telling, keep growing.
India is Suzuki's biggest market in terms of sales & revenue.
But they always launch their new models in other countries such as UK where their sales & profits are peanuts in comparison with India.
Whether anyone belives it or not foreign brands neither respect Indian buyers nor they are respectful towards Indians.
Jimny super suv in all tarrain with city smooth drive , no one suv in this price range beat it , thar segment different and not in this price range and city drive smoothness not good , thar all lover have secondry car , but jimny use in daily uses and use also in off road one car complete all desire , and reason to less sale indian customer very conscious about people 'loog kya kahenge' लोगों की हालत कैसी है सोशल मीडिया में बुराई करेंगे मारुति की, फिर नई कार मारुति की ले कर आएंगे कहेंगे पापा को ये ही अच्छी लगती है
Jimmy is the most practical and affordable suv , thar no where come near in terms of practice use
The less it available on the Road better for us Jimny owners. Only few know its worth
Why did Gypsy become a buge success then? Its just the 2nd gen Jimny with a longer wheelbase…
The video is very good. Although I'm not intrested in those cars
Jimny is so capabale. I have tried it in exteme conditions, and its truly what the tagline says, never turn back.
Unimpressive pricing.
Unimpressive engine.
Unimpressive transmission.
Unimpressive fuel economy.
Unimpressive water wading capacity.
Unimpressive space and storage
No drivers seat height adjustment.
Small size is not a negative. That is the one positive in this entire disastrous package.
This is a pure off-roader and a city car. There are very few off-roaders in India. Most Thar buyers buy it because the Thar looks brawny and is quite a step up now from the crde days. Jimny cannot appeal to that Thar buying lot. It will get a market out of pure off-roaders and Thar isn’t making it easy anymore.
yes you are right, at least RWD version ka try krna chiye Suzuki ko lower price point me with better interior and features, only that can save Jimnny.
RWD version of Jimny will not work in India…
I have bought the RWD Thar because I didn’t want a 4x4 vehicle… but at the same time I wanted the power and muscular road presence…..
Jimny has none of these
@@RishavBaruah, right, you bought RWD Thar. The same will work with Jimny. Today, every Indian wants an SUV.
@@GauravSukraliya87 Jimny doesn’t look like an SUV…
Doesn’t have that muscular presence…
And hence people will not be attracted to
I am jimny owner for past 4 months and loving it very much.. dont have any issues.
Suzuki should bring 3door jimny cargo that they launched in global market.
Should be price range as eeco.
Also jimny in 2 wheeler drive
Being having both thar700 and jymni i love borh like capable and lovesble❤
1995 gypsy frame
Which is used in india.poor weld and chassis paint
High rpm running.means need to change crown.
Wheel lock while turning.no space on rear seat.
Well said,,, it should be around 10 lakh,, then it will be a superhit
The main reason of flop in India is Mahindra Thar provide better deal and also Suzuki is very late on launching giimny
Problem is pricing and trying to fit everything ie 5 door. It just looks ugly. The design simply doesn't suit 5 door. 3 door variant looks good and the matches the style much more
I would very much like to buy Jimmy… coz I always aspire for gypsy… I had a test drive it’s not smooth and it is overpriced… I would definitely buy a RWD mode with smooth driving experience for my city use…
Thar is chor bazar Chinese product cheap copy of rubicon, 😂
Jimny will never discontinued
I think they didn't have to launch the 5 door Jimny... 3 door Jimny was great.
Also they didn't have to complete with Thar. Could have kept it separate as Compact off-road SUV.
Jimny is very beautiful and very practical vehicle. Thar abd Jimny have no comparison. Both are different.
Thar world best nhi hai.. Jimmy hai.. Thar srif India ki biz hai.. Golbel nhi hai.. Jimmy zindabad ❤❤
The 4th Gen Jimny was launched in 2018, globally.
It came too late to India, why?
Mahindra launched a RWD Wrangler look alike Jeep, 5 lacs cheaper than the Jimny.
Lot of Indians jumped for it - they're want something cheap, that looks like a Jeep and drives like a car. They can always put a 4Bhai4 sticker and no one will be wiser.
A 3 door Jimny should have impressed single men and women techies but not, many already own cars, live in apartments in Bangalore, with one parking lot. Now Jimny has to impress them, improve the traffic situation in Bangalore, get them a second parking lot or have an exchange offer for their existing vehicle! Can Suzuki do all of the above?
fyi ... the 2 door version u put in d picture .. has never been launched in india ... IF it gets launched ... it will be a hit 🎯🎯❤❤
Jimny can still beat Thar in sales by putting a diesel engine and launching in 9 lakhs.
Sizes dimensions aur engine power increase kari tou acha hoga..cos not only mileage but road presence bi chahiye ajkal
Bro make a video on how volvo buses become first choices of travel
All most all the top international car experts at least have a Jimmy in their garages.
Actully 2018 se mai waiting kar raha ta. Jab 2022 me showcase kia and 23 me launch kiya maine book kiya. Price to bahut mahangi lagi. Jab maine live jaake dekha, baita and drive kiya muje bilkul pasand nahi aaya. Fist of all very very less place for co passengers, bakwas nikla. If they made bit wide muscular it would have instant hit. Indians like good road presence, mileage and low maintanance
If it is not VFM , it will not sell in India. Only exception is Fortuner
Buddy, correct your self, Jimny is not 'All Wheel Drive' but 'Four Wheel Drive' ; and also the content of the video indicates as if you have been paid to run down Jimny. Compare the price of 4x4 Thar Roxx and Jimny , its almost double. Jimny comes with reliability, better after sale service and the petrol version has five years more life in Delhi NCR. All vehicles come with their strengths and weaknesses .
Wrong comparison and everyone cannot understand the capabilities of a Jimny. I have had both versions of Thar and have to admit that Jimny is in a different league. Also how does the Jimny 4X4 compare with RWD 1.5 Bolero engine Thar except the fact that Thar looks big and bulky.