They used to be crapboxes and still kind of are. They provide good value but are easy to steal and look strange. Most stolen vehicles in the U.S are Hyundais.
@@xain9321 Looks are subjective, Hyundai is more reliable than Nissan and every American brand, them getting stolen is mainly an issue in the older generations, only bad thing that I hear is that the customer service for warranty claims are bad
It's perfect for a mature man (anyone over 40, I'm 72) who does not want to look like a "boy racer," while still having a good-looking family cruiser, with a powerful engine and good handling. Can you please give your professional opinion on how the car handles. Remember, the Sonata N Line was never meant to complete with the Elantra N.
@@Vffr1 I am sure you're having a great time. I have to be careful; the Sonta N Line is quiet inside. Before I know it, I'm doing 70 mph. While the Elantra N may not be as quiet as my Sonata N Line, but I'm sure you need to be careful as well. Before you know it, you could be doing 95 mph.
Another car to consider (which Miles also reviewed the pre-facelift of) is the Kia K5 GT. It is essentially the same car as the Sonata N-line wrapped in a different package. The interesting difference between the two are options and pricing. The K5 GT starts roughly $2,000 less than the N-Line. However, the K5 GT can be optioned with a $4,400 “GT1 package” which once optioned makes the car $2,000 more than the N-line. So there is actually a solution for some of the features Miles is complaining are missing on the Sonata N-line: just get a K5 GT lol. Here is what that “GT1 package” gets you: 12.3-inch Curved Instrument Display Digital Key 2 Bose® Premium Audio System w/ 12 Speakers Active Sound Design 19-inch Alloy Wheels, Gloss Black Finish Driver's Seat & Outside Mirror Integrated Memory System 10-Way Power Passengers's Seat w/ 2-Way Power Lumbar Adjustment Ventilated Front Seats Parking Collision-Avoidance Assist-Reverse Surround View Monitor Blind-Spot View Monitor Side Parking Sensors Power-Folding Side View Mirrors Power Windows w/ One-Touch Auto-Up/Down Rear seat air vents
It traps 106mph+ in the 1/4 mile in good conditons. Thats similsr to a B58 540i Xdrive, Charger R/T, Stinger GT AWD, and a Type R. People always clamour about the 2.0T Accord but its nowhere near as good as the Sonata Nline. I use to think the 2.0T was great but now i thinks its kind meh for a turbo 4. Id rather have an older V6 accord or Sonata/K5 2.5T
Trap speeds ive seen were around 102-104mph which is similar to the kia k5 and charger RTs. The others are lil quicker. Still good value for the money.
@@MilesPerHr no, thank you! This is the exact car I’m buying in 3 months and really wanted a *good* car reviewer with lots of experience to try it out, I’m more than ecstatic that you got to driver ‘er around! Definitely solidifying my choices! ❤️
Currently leasing a ‘23 Sonata NLine & so pleased with it that I’m looking forward to leasing a ‘25 next year in lieu of the G80 Sport I highly considered. Coming from Infiniti and Lexus/Toyota, although it’s missing a few luxurious amenities to which I’m accustomed, I’m pleased with the overall package for the money - definitely a solid vehicle ………… and a true sleeper, too.
The Sonata has surely come a long way! I used to own a Sonata! Except it was 21 years and 300,000 miles older 🤣 As far as this new one goes, I like the rear end a lot! I also like the way the seats look! Nice review Miles!
Rear-seat air vents, and Homelink were removed for the '24 MY N-Line, costcutting....? Anyhoo...I'd definitely choose the N-Line over the Camry and Accord. It's on my shortlist to replace my '17 Elantra Sport; fantastic car by-the-way!
I actually appreciated this video. Picking mine up tomorrow morning. One video I saw, I was ready to ask him if he was being paid to put down the car. I saw it and had to have it.
The Sonata N Line was never supposed to compete with the Elantra N Line. The Elantra N I would say is for a younger crowd. The Sonata N Line is perfect for those over 40 bunch like me. The car has a good ride, it's very roomy for both front and rear passengers, it's quiet, it's quick, and it handles well enough to have a fun.
I don’t get why Hyundai got rid of the 1.6t engine for this refresh. I had a pre refresh Sonata 1.6t Limited as a rental car when I went to Tennessee a couple years ago. It was a pretty good motor and surprisingly, I didn’t need to put in a lot of fuel before returning it which showed how well the fuel economy was for the few days I had it.
I'm in Australia and have registered for a class action against Hyundai for that 1.6T engine. Apparently people with a lot of issues. I've owned an Elantra Sport for 6 years with that engine and not had an issue myself. But I'd say that's why it suddenly disappeared.
Too bad that it doesn't have adaptive suspension and lsd like elentra N . Yet the price is more then elentra. I read somewhere sonata will be 4wd n-line (performance)
Seeing 3 teslas at the same red light is WILD to me and it's part of the reason I'll never get one. Also, when you get to the parts where you start pushing the cars, you should shut off the AC. Drains immense amounts of power.
the front body reminded me of a 2024 kona or a 2024 bayon lol, despite the futuristic looks the car is crazy and in the hands of miles? Wohoo. appriciate the hyunda miles!
It’s fun to drive. But the vibes in the cabin are put to shame by the sonata N line. The non digital cluster puts me off more than the sonata missing cooled seats for some reason.
It seems Hyundai went down on the luxury in this refresh. Came with Conv Pkg on SEL trim and SEL+ had them as standard. *IIRC*, the N Line even had ventilated seats, and Limited even offered heated rear seats at one point.
What's wrong with the editing of this video, it feels rushed and bad. Go to 4:00 minute mark that says "It does have apple car play and Android au--- and then gets cut off. Be aware Miles! Can't let the quality drop.
I'd love to see what you think about the refreshed K5 GT compared to this thing! Loved the review. There are definitely some good changes for this refresh, although I am kinda over the full light bar trend already 😂 apart from that, it looks like a super fun sedan!
Drive one and you’ll reconsider. I was thinking the same, but i test drove the SNL (2023 model) and it was too tame which made it feel quite boring compared to the EN. I did love the seats though. Super comfortable.
Sadly, all the vehicles in this "sporty" not "sport" sedan segment get only a dusting of true performance hardware. I think if anyone came out with something in this segment that had an LSD, it would be tremendous.
Not sluggish at all I've kept up with a corvette c8 on the highway in and out through cars etc. It gets down if you're a good driver and u use manual with paddleshifters
The C8 isn't flooring it on the highway, you can keep up so long as the C8 allows you to The Sonata is a i4 family sedan, the C8 Corvette is a 500hp twin turbo v8 Performance Sports car with a 2.9 second 0-60 and an 11.2 second quarter mile Yes you can keep up, but unless the C8 is really trying, so could a Miata
Why every car reviewer wants to drive it as if it was a civic type r? Its a family sedan with extra power for when you might need it. It does not need a LSD. You dnt drive your family around on curvy roads recklessly. Thats why its not a Sonata N. 👍🏻
Hyundai is underrated af, most people don't even know that Such a beautiful car exists and even genesis make beautiful cars imo
They used to be crapboxes and still kind of are. They provide good value but are easy to steal and look strange. Most stolen vehicles in the U.S are Hyundais.
@xain9321 the base models are...Anything push start from them can't be stolen
@@xain9321that would be true for some pre-2020 models
@@xain9321 Looks are subjective, Hyundai is more reliable than Nissan and every American brand, them getting stolen is mainly an issue in the older generations, only bad thing that I hear is that the customer service for warranty claims are bad
NGL this is a pretty good looking car
The Sport + mode feels so much diff than sport. I love it.
How much is it different ? I got one too but never use sport plus ik traction turns off but besides that i didnt think it did anything else
The N-Line feels like Sport mode even in the standard drive mode! The sport mode feels crazy fast!! Maybe because the turbo charged engine!
It's perfect for a mature man (anyone over 40, I'm 72) who does not want to look like a "boy racer," while still having a good-looking family cruiser, with a powerful engine and good handling. Can you please give your professional opinion on how the car handles. Remember, the Sonata N Line was never meant to complete with the Elantra N.
Just purchased a 2024 Elantra N for my 64 birthday. "Live while you're alive"
@@Vffr1 I am sure you're having a great time. I have to be careful; the Sonta N Line is quiet inside. Before I know it, I'm doing 70 mph. While the Elantra N may not be as quiet as my Sonata N Line, but I'm sure you need to be careful as well. Before you know it, you could be doing 95 mph.
Another car to consider (which Miles also reviewed the pre-facelift of) is the Kia K5 GT. It is essentially the same car as the Sonata N-line wrapped in a different package.
The interesting difference between the two are options and pricing. The K5 GT starts roughly $2,000 less than the N-Line. However, the K5 GT can be optioned with a $4,400 “GT1 package” which once optioned makes the car $2,000 more than the N-line.
So there is actually a solution for some of the features Miles is complaining are missing on the Sonata N-line: just get a K5 GT lol.
Here is what that “GT1 package” gets you:
12.3-inch Curved Instrument Display
Digital Key 2
Bose® Premium Audio System w/ 12 Speakers
Active Sound Design
19-inch Alloy Wheels, Gloss Black Finish
Driver's Seat & Outside Mirror Integrated Memory System
10-Way Power Passengers's Seat w/ 2-Way Power Lumbar Adjustment
Ventilated Front Seats
Parking Collision-Avoidance Assist-Reverse
Surround View Monitor
Blind-Spot View Monitor
Side Parking Sensors
Power-Folding Side View Mirrors
Power Windows w/ One-Touch Auto-Up/Down
Rear seat air vents
You also get memory seats and heated steering wheel on the GT.
It traps 106mph+ in the 1/4 mile in good conditons. Thats similsr to a B58 540i Xdrive, Charger R/T, Stinger GT AWD, and a Type R. People always clamour about the 2.0T Accord but its nowhere near as good as the Sonata Nline. I use to think the 2.0T was great but now i thinks its kind meh for a turbo 4. Id rather have an older V6 accord or Sonata/K5 2.5T
Trap speeds ive seen were around 102-104mph which is similar to the kia k5 and charger RTs. The others are lil quicker. Still good value for the money.
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You bet! Thanks for watching
@@MilesPerHr no, thank you! This is the exact car I’m buying in 3 months and really wanted a *good* car reviewer with lots of experience to try it out, I’m more than ecstatic that you got to driver ‘er around! Definitely solidifying my choices! ❤️
Currently leasing a ‘23 Sonata NLine & so pleased with it that I’m looking forward to leasing a ‘25 next year in lieu of the G80 Sport I highly considered. Coming from Infiniti and Lexus/Toyota, although it’s missing a few luxurious amenities to which I’m accustomed, I’m pleased with the overall package for the money - definitely a solid vehicle ………… and a true sleeper, too.
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@@juelz4516what’s so funny ?
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I am leasing one myself...so much cheaper...
@@juelz4516 you buy cash??
The Sonata has surely come a long way! I used to own a Sonata! Except it was 21 years and 300,000 miles older 🤣
As far as this new one goes, I like the rear end a lot! I also like the way the seats look! Nice review Miles!
I never knew they lasted that long wow I’m impressed
Rear-seat air vents, and Homelink were removed for the '24 MY N-Line, costcutting....? Anyhoo...I'd definitely choose the N-Line over the Camry and Accord. It's on my shortlist to replace my '17 Elantra Sport; fantastic car by-the-way!
I actually appreciated this video. Picking mine up tomorrow morning. One video I saw, I was ready to ask him if he was being paid to put down the car. I saw it and had to have it.
Do the 2025 Kia K5 Gt!!!
Really wish this car has an LSD and/or was not FWD. Otherwise it seems like there's no real reason to get it over the Elantra N
The EN doesn't have some of the convenience features the N-Line does. This is a better mix of convenience and sport.
Not the same size so there is that.
Some people want better MPGs and a larger rear passenger space. Not everyone wants a hot sedan.
@@elliott4299the Elantra N actually has better rear legroom than the Sonata N-Line.
The Sonata N Line was never supposed to compete with the Elantra N Line. The Elantra N I would say is for a younger crowd. The Sonata N Line is perfect for those over 40 bunch like me. The car has a good ride, it's very roomy for both front and rear passengers, it's quiet, it's quick, and it handles well enough to have a fun.
I was waiting for this!!!
Glad to deliver!
no one care
I have the N Line and it does have wireless CarPlay.
I don’t get why Hyundai got rid of the 1.6t engine for this refresh. I had a pre refresh Sonata 1.6t Limited as a rental car when I went to Tennessee a couple years ago. It was a pretty good motor and surprisingly, I didn’t need to put in a lot of fuel before returning it which showed how well the fuel economy was for the few days I had it.
I'm in Australia and have registered for a class action against Hyundai for that 1.6T engine. Apparently people with a lot of issues. I've owned an Elantra Sport for 6 years with that engine and not had an issue myself. But I'd say that's why it suddenly disappeared.
This is a 2.5t just better over all
really hope you take a look at the new k5 gt and compare this and it
what a beauty
Good video. Any chance of a K5 review?
K5 gt no one made a video one but youtube has k5 gt line and limited videos
As for the exterior, i really like everything except the white parts of the tailights
Give it a Limited slip, better tires, rear air vents and dedicated manual mode and this would be a monster performance sedan bargain at say, $38K
Even if they kept the manual for the Elantra N, I'd take all the rest of those things for that price.
Yeah im not spending that money for a vehicle without rear vents
@Rockybalboa541
The 2025 model will have air vents. It was announced last month.
Too bad that it doesn't have adaptive suspension and lsd like elentra N . Yet the price is more then elentra.
I read somewhere sonata will be 4wd n-line (performance)
Seeing 3 teslas at the same red light is WILD to me and it's part of the reason I'll never get one. Also, when you get to the parts where you start pushing the cars, you should shut off the AC. Drains immense amounts of power.
Another great review!
Bro did not watch it yet
Thanks for the support!
the front body reminded me of a 2024 kona or a 2024 bayon lol, despite the futuristic looks the car is crazy and in the hands of miles? Wohoo. appriciate the hyunda miles!
Because theres so many economical rear wheel drive midsize family sedans on the market. Turning radius 🫣
I'd take this over the Camry and accord.
I don’t know if your system just is t updated, because all 2024 sonata do have wireless CarPlay.
Most car companies use Hard plastic its easier to clean when goes to Detail at actions & Detail/ Clean up departments
i love the car Hyundai has improved tremendously… but the key design?
It’s the Hyundai logo
Personally I like it, but I know it’s a really controversial and angular design (it appears weird at some angles.)
RUclips has no kia k5 videos. Only gt lines and limited give us a video of k5 with a gt 1 package. Thanks
It’s fun to drive. But the vibes in the cabin are put to shame by the sonata N line. The non digital cluster puts me off more than the sonata missing cooled seats for some reason.
@@jmwlife2k the 2025 gt has the same digital cluster now
@@Bat-of-Sealand I seen! That’s pretty awesome
I once got a SantaFe rental, and I just hate the fact that you can't change the tachometer gauge :( it's always in that digital mode
You can swap this one to analog style
nice car
i always found that weird no air vents in the rear but my 2021 has it
We got the rear vents in Canada
It seems Hyundai went down on the luxury in this refresh. Came with Conv Pkg on SEL trim and SEL+ had them as standard. *IIRC*, the N Line even had ventilated seats, and Limited even offered heated rear seats at one point.
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Thank you, welcome!
Why no comparisons to the Kia K5 GT. Basically the same car...
Nice review Miles!😊 I'll stick with my Acura Integra Type-S. That is quite an impressive car tho.
What's wrong with the editing of this video, it feels rushed and bad. Go to 4:00 minute mark that says "It does have apple car play and Android au--- and then gets cut off. Be aware Miles! Can't let the quality drop.
hyundai is more reliable than german cars and american car and nissan
Could you do one on the amg e63s or s63?
I'd love to see what you think about the refreshed K5 GT compared to this thing! Loved the review. There are definitely some good changes for this refresh, although I am kinda over the full light bar trend already 😂 apart from that, it looks like a super fun sedan!
Are you sure its not Lucid Air Sapphire?
💀💀 lol. I do see the similarity i thought it looked like the new bmw 7 series but yours is closer i think
Everything is perfect.. except that steering wheel and no rear air vents
It will have air vents for the 2025 model. It was announced last month.
Is this faster than Elantra N though it has more power on paper? What is your take on that
I’ve never been a Kia/Hyundai fan so maybe I just don’t get it but the sonata looked way better prior to the refresh. Especially the interior.
Totally agree I have a 22 it looks more aggressive imo
might trade my Elantra N for this chat
Drive one and you’ll reconsider. I was thinking the same, but i test drove the SNL (2023 model) and it was too tame which made it feel quite boring compared to the EN. I did love the seats though. Super comfortable.
Does it not have wireless android/Apple carplay?
N line over all others i think this should be compared to a bmw instead of accords or camrys and this is based on owning one.
Can’t decide between this or a 2024 Mazda3 turbo hatch
Bro get this.
My 24 sonata has wireless CarPlay and android auto
Funny enough in Canada the one I just picked up comes with rear climate and driver memory seating.
Argh!
And heated steering wheel
Really? Rear climate is not listed as a feature of the 2024 Sonatas. I'm getting my N Line this week, I'll check.
@karanbhavnani9177 update: it does have rear climate 😍!
We're riding with ya.
Might not be as nice as an Audi. But I'd take one over an Audi any day if I planned on owning out of warranty.
Seems like it's half baked
Sadly, all the vehicles in this "sporty" not "sport" sedan segment get only a dusting of true performance hardware. I think if anyone came out with something in this segment that had an LSD, it would be tremendous.
No AWD and no hood struts
I'd assume the lack of AWD is for the fact that hyundai doesn't wanna take away from elantra N and genesis g70 sales
It has hood struts.
It’s wireless car play fyi
It should have wireless CarPlay
It might have just not been working for me - I do think it's supposed to have it with the new software
Great review but the car seems a bit pointless
Like the paddle shifts 😴
I think it serves a purpose as a more livable, larger alternative to an Elantra N, but it's sorely missing an LSD to become a true performance sedan
The android auto in the Sonata SEL is wireless. I wonder why it's not in the N
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Not sluggish at all I've kept up with a corvette c8 on the highway in and out through cars etc. It gets down if you're a good driver and u use manual with paddleshifters
I think a highlight as well is the infotainment gauge cluster, literally like the one out of a bmw. Forsure it gets down 2-4 gear
Better tired and a fine will make this car even more golden
The C8 isn't flooring it on the highway, you can keep up so long as the C8 allows you to
The Sonata is a i4 family sedan, the C8 Corvette is a 500hp twin turbo v8 Performance Sports car with a 2.9 second 0-60 and an 11.2 second quarter mile
Yes you can keep up, but unless the C8 is really trying, so could a Miata
The 2024 does'int make 290hp and 311ft it's been cut down that's the older generation that makes that power
Why every car reviewer wants to drive it as if it was a civic type r? Its a family sedan with extra power for when you might need it. It does not need a LSD. You dnt drive your family around on curvy roads recklessly. Thats why its not a Sonata N. 👍🏻
Too bad it’s not AWD