How I broke my arm - hang glider crash (narrated)
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- I have had lots of folks asking me what I did when I broke my arm. If a picture is worth a thousand words a video has got to be even more useful.
This video is aimed at current hang glider pilots as a learning tool.
Thank you for the education Sir. Your humility and frank analysis is something to strive for. May you heal well and quickly.
That was dreadful bad luck Pete, as you say, the impact was minimal, just unfortunate that your arm took the brunt of it. Good job there were no cameras back in my day!!
Thanks for sharing and the analysis.
Came here after I saw your new ridge soaring video so glad to hear you're well and back in the air
Superb breakdown. Thank you. Get well soon.
I was next to you in the hospital the other day and remembered you saying about your video. I hope the surgery went well and you'll be back flying in no time!
I hope your surgery went well too!
Great video and honest analysis Pete. The other thing you could have possibly done was grab an upright with both arms the instant you realised it had all gone wrong. It might have avoided the broken arm.
Well done, thorough analysis. I hope this reduces other hill-landing accidents for decades to come.
Excellent analysis of an unfortunate occurrence .. Thank you for having the presence and courage to give us a FULL understanding of 5he situation .
Good Fortune in your flying career !
Thanks for sharing your afterthoughts of the incident, mate, and I hope for your quick recovery.
I'm sorry for your bad luck... it certainly didn't look severe, like you pointed out. Thank you for such an enlightening write-up; I have definitely learned something from this I would not otherwise have known. I wish you a speedy recovery and a triumphant return to the skies!
Thanks for that. Your recognition and sharing of your mistake makes you a real aviator.
Thanks for sharing this. Always better to bottom land if it looks dodgy I will bear this video in mind next time out. Cheers
Yep, totally got it - I'd have chickened out on a top landing way earlier with that height - remember being exactly like that at Geraldton a few times. Hope you get better and thanks for the insight.
Thanks for sharing. Wishing you a speedy full recovery. That's one nasty break for sure. Good thing others were around to help.
Very well analyzed and presented. Wishing you a speedy recovery. It always sucks when the thing that should break (the glider) doesn't and we do.
Glad you came through that incident without major injury! Best of luck when the arm mends!
Safety first. You're right: Overconfidence is our worst enemy. It looked very risky to make this approach, when you have gone down to the stepped part of the hill. Flying at low speed ,near the ground with cross wind at a stepped hill is a sure scenery for bad things to come. In this case it was the wing that connected to the planet, but it would have been a rotor or a turbulence what could have caused a stall and an accident. Your analysis is correct, thanks for sharing. Hope you get well soon.
Very well explained. When in doubt always look to safety, going off the slope and landing in the lower field would have been the right choice. I hope the good and speedy recovery of your arm.
Ohh that is a tough break. Get well soon sir.
Thank you Sir
I hope you are in very good health now!
An honest appraisal. You so nearly pulled it off.
Suggesting, imo, the better alternative. Personally at 2:25 I'd have turned a 180 hard right to put me at the rear, parallel with the fence and slightly uphill to the East of the the Gibbet.
A downwind turn approach often uses less valuable height, being only a single 180 spent more within a weak lift band, compared to a ~ 220 turn going out of the lift band followed by a reversal.
Thanks for the comment Justin! I agree that a 180 in towards the hill from the place I turn away from the hill would likely have been fine. I once almost came unstuck on a PG turning in towards the hill so it is something that I am (overly) cautious of. Also on this day there is another glider out to the east (you can see him in the video). I had a hunch that that other guy was out there about to make a run in top land and so I didn't want to cut him up.
Thanks for sharing Pete.. get well soon
Good account Peter. We all get it wrong occasionally. Remember when all is lost, fold those arms in! Best bet in those light conditions is to keep flying and hope something comes through, if it doesn't, on a suitable hill like Bell or Monks down (Smooth grass) I fly out away from the hill, fly up it, sometimes just losing momentum and couple of steps or flare. Often far easier than landing at the bottom which is the other option. On the side of the hill a skid in landing. With a long wingspan like an Atos any slope or bush would spin you in. Hope you heal soon.
Great narration.
It always always goes to show ... when making decisions late, and with an ever shrinking margin of safety ... things can happen and accelerate fast.
Glad it was only a broken arm, and other pilots were near to assist.
Could have been much worse in much unfriendly terrain.
Great, thanks for your efforts in explaining what happened and why 👍🏽
Thanks for explaining the incident so well
Sad for this bad luck but thanks for sharing the analysis. There is a technique that I used once explained here that can help all of us.
Great video Pete. You'd probably got away with it and done a good landing if you kept heading towards your original (green) landing spot and just done a big early flare. i.e. a fly on the wall. To me you mistake was trying to turn back into wind so like you say on the video one wing is close to the hill and the other is high up.
Coombe is the only hill I'm comfortable to fly on the wall land and I've found it easier than some top landings on Coombe!
Ouch. Most importantly, you did not break one of those expensive down tubes 😲 I totally would have done the same thing, but pulled in a bit more just before the bush to get a little extra smash, and been prepared for the uphill gradient drop and low wing aspect; and once, and if, you hook the ground, the best bet is to let go as much as possible and aim for no control bar parts and rag doll as much as possible. Sorry you got hurt, and thank you for your analysis and videos to help us consider the outcome. Not saying it would have been any better for me, as having to fly down is not as preferred as top landing. Six weeks and you will be back in business.
After 600 flights I decided to switch to a round bar with 8”pneumatic wheel, instead of those white ones. Insignificant performance sacrifice for a better insurance. May not be relevant to this particular situation though..
I always let go of the bar if I'm going in.. Was it because you held on to the bar at impact?
Iv had some bad landings bust down tubes.
Impact didn't look that hard. Just the bad angle of the arm 😥 Contrary to popular beliefs, I always land VG full off. Once low & slowing to near flare / stall speed you need as much roll controll as possible. Thanks for sharing this video!
This might be different on the S3 as I fly a Litesport, but when I try VG full off usually the nose stalls too early due to the higher angle of attack (twist) and I don't have energy for a full flare because the tips are still flying and holding the rear of the glider. Try to flare earlier and I've had the glider to go way too high. Half of my landings with vg full off end in minor whacks. On the other hand with 1/3 VG it's usually a no step landing! I only use vg full off for very narrow thermals, and both take off and land with 1/3.
We've all done it,,,(got cocky) and regretted it,,,safe flying
Thanks for explaning
Thanks for sharing
The flight result is terrible, but the analysis of decisions and actions is good.
Heal your arm.
very nice
Hey Peter, thanks for a sharing, i wish you quick recovery ! Right now i have exactly the same fracture on the right arm, as a consequence of similar fault. It told me to avoid turbulent places at landing, and not to grip the glider in hand when having a crash. After 10 mounth are you able to fly again?
My recovery has been... Interesting! Here in my country they are trying a new policy where they don't do surgery. 90% of people heal just fine. I'm in the 10%! They should have done surgery after 2 months. But instead they left me 9 months! I have now had surgery and my arm is feeling really good now. Hopefully back flying soon...
Hey Peter, that's quite rude, i belive in your case surgery should have been out of question. I am glad you're better, so the autumn flying season is waiting for you : ) @@petermontgomery6498
I wonder if your left wing mush-stalled in the wind gradient close to the ground, and with your right wing in good air still generating lift there was no way of saving the situation.
Peter! Are you back flying? How is your recovery going?
4:36 When your flight goes to crash use 'self-safety actions' to avoid injuries and broken bones. Read and learn here: www.hangglider.kiev.ua/instruktion/fall.html
Translate it and use for your safety
Translate it, lol
So, you broke the bone by hitting the upright or by putting your hand on the ground? Thanks for sharing
Neither. The bone broke due to my hand being on the upright with my muscles pushing it forwards whilst the glider rotated pushing my hand backwards. The torsional force on the bone broke the bone.
Du hättes eine Hanglandung aufwärts mit Fahrtüberschuss und Rückenwind versuchen sollen ! Du hast eine Delta und keinen Gleitschirm ! Parallel zum Hang mit Seitenwind ist für Deltas sehr problematisch und der Flügel bleibt leicht hängen !
Hay que soltarse de una mano por lo menos !!!,siempre hay que mentalizarlo antes para no olvidar de hacerlo.Lo siento.
Sí exactamente. Debería estar listo lo que está en el frente de tu cerebro. En lugar de eso, mi cerebro gritaba "salva el planeador", ¡que es todo lo contrario!
Looks like you were in mush speed right before landing. While this slow the left wing tip may have stalled as you tried to shift right, because the left side of the sail stretches and the left tip has a higher angle of attack the the right, stalls first... Basically the very beginning of a spin. Did it drop to the left first, or just touched the terrain and then cartwheeled? It looks to me that the glider was dropping to the left even before touching the tip.
I almost had a bad day flying too slow and stalling a wing tip close to terrain once... That was full vg though.
It was definitely not a stall. I had plenty of speed (nowhere near mush speed) and the S3 is really not tip stall prone. I have experienced tip stall on a HG and it is very different to this roll I had. The roll was due to the left tip being out of lift and the right tip being in strong lift.
@@petermontgomery6498 makes sense!
Wish you recover quickly and get back in the air. Last year a local broke his arm and he hasn't returned yet. I think it involves some pressure from his wife haha
@@ericoschmitt I'm in the same boat regarding having to convince my better half... It is one thing me calculating my own risk/reward balance sheet (which I am still massively in credit on the reward side in spite of this by the way) but my poor wife has had to carry the slack that has resulted from my immobility at home. She has gone from sharing the load of 4 kids and a house with me to having 5 kids (me now being the 5th) to look after on her own. And she gets zero reward from my hobby (apart from some peace and quiet from me from time to time!)... This better half factor does have a massive sway on the risks/rewards calculation we all have to weigh up. And for the record (you never know, she may read this!) whilst I don't want to, I can live without HG. I can't live without my best friend!
@@petermontgomery6498 If wheels and single surface is what takes for convincing, be it. Flying can be safe, just skip fancy landings!
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