well that looks terrible, not being troll but ad some accelerator same day, take the skin off it 3-4 hours later, bar it with an I section then leave it 1-2 hours depending on temps and scratch up very gently!!!!!! Grey is a crap colour anyway and casts shadows. the best solution to cover this would be a Krend primer then a thin coat Tc15 type product which can be put on directly on to scraped texture as long as its not been painted! K-rend provide a data sheet for this. I would bite the bullet and pay out my own pocket. I have been in this situation and that's why my view is what it is. Seen your work before and ive seen you do some good graft in the past.
K rend u really gotta be scratching the same day unless its really cold. You gotta come really proud with it too so that when you scratch it back its flush as you wanted. Not bad tho fellla. Love all your videos.
You’d be better off beading up again with 6mm beads reapply small layer, leaving to set and scraping before it sets, you won’t have scraping difficulty all day and only costs half the original materials to rectify
Watching this video I understand a bit more about K rend having seen the finish. It does have a nice finish I admit. I remember seeing a black coloured render on a building the other day which looked really nice and I wondered how it had been done. Now I understand that that was K rend for sure. Please invest in an FFP3 mask, all that dust in your lungs is a killer. I use the JSP force 8 from screwfix. All the best 😉😉
4-36 hours isn't a choice mate. You have to scratch same day or next morning at the very least. U can't choose... also no basecoat means every time it rains the morter joins will grim through. If u need any tips call Campbells Plastering
Is this job hassle because of the drying times and weather? Everyone seems to promote it as easy and they’re all making a fortune especially the ones that are spraying it on but finding the truth is hard as honest guys now are hard to find. I’m old school only done sand and cement in the past and fucked that off because of the weather and prefering to work indoors.
Render first, do U mean sand/ cement scratch Coat? Is your 1st coat ruled plumb, then Next day apply finish coat/scratch, any problems with high points flashing through to finish Coat? Big Thanks in advance if U reply to above, only started to do small job's, get hang of it 😅
I like k rend but don't think it's the best thing to use in England especially as people don't maintain it properly it looks bad after a couple of years all the little holes get filled with dirt and it starts looking green if it's a light colour
Too right, but it makes for a good business opportunity...large housing development near me employs two companies full time cleaning this stuff when it's gone green.
Hi, I am looking for a good renderer for a front porch built with cement boards, so needs to be done in silicone render, are you interested in doing this, I am based in Edmonton north london.
We've all been there mate. K rend is great when it goes right but there's so many things that can go wrong and all the other factors. I try stay clear of it now mate and just use thin coat (JUB) so much more durable, less mess and f***king about. Good video boss like the honesty doesn't always go our way
In my experience on doing k rend jobs, I-bar and scratch the same day as application is aways best. I have only ever done it the following morning when it between 5c-0c over night. You should always be putting the render on early in order to finish same day, 7am start on cool days and have the render on no later than 11am. In the i-bar process you should always have 3-4mm thickness past the bead so if the render is still too soft to bar, have a long tooth scraper handy to open up the render to let it go off then you should be able to bar it off quicker. Then scratching off should be easy, using any dust that falls down to fill any holes (the dust will still be quite moist and easy to manipulate, rather than completely dry if doing it the next day) And obviously the final finish thickness should be no less than 10mm as there will be light patches throughout the finish if any thiner. The base coat should only be thin, to seal the block work and bed the mesh in
Thanks for the useful info. Why does the k rend need to be scratched at the end? Surely like internal plaster it’s better to have smooth finish - uneducated guess. Thanks in advance.
@@almusti k rend is a scratch finish render. Once the render is scratched it then shows the colour it is meant to be. I personally think that k rend looks miles better then sand and cement due to the slight texture and the colours are very accurate. I think some people think k rend has way more of a texture than it does, like rough cast render which you see on old cottages. Painted sand and cement can peel over time which then requires re painting.
@@tobynewman6405 thanks for the reply. I was wondering if you have ever done silicone render and how does it compare to k rend? Thanks. I’ll go through your videos to see if you’ve got one. 👍🏻
@@almusti I prefer k rend as I like the finish more but that's just personal preference. I don't have any videos. I am a plasterer just don't post vids on RUclips.
@@darrenthebuilder I know u ain't I am a renderer myself and if I had to meet u on a job a would send u on ure way lad that is a shambles u have left there
@@rosco7280 you would never be able to get someone likes to work for you. Get down off your high horse as no one cares about you or what you’re doing. Go do your own jobs and enjoy it over there.
mate....what are you doing????? I've watched loads of your videos and you're really good at what you do. this is making rendering a joke. your making you're]self look stupid I'm sorry to say. its terrible and in that situation I would take it on the chin and hack off and start from the beginning. its like scratching a stone on the ground. I have my own building company and Krend company on the Fylde coast in Lancashire. you have really let yourself down with this video.............. Just terrible 🤔
Shut up you toss pot, the man is trying to help people out .these situations happen . Admire the man for his honesty. And the great thing is people have popped up with solutions to this situation on the comments. Well done that man for putting it up.
Good to see that you aren't too proud to do videos showing mistakes (and how to fix them!) Good job as usual!
We all learn from them and hopefully I help someone not make the same one lol
You're a hard worker bro. Any customer to have you should thank them selves lucky. Mad props man
well that looks terrible, not being troll but ad some accelerator same day, take the skin off it 3-4 hours later, bar it with an I section then leave it 1-2 hours depending on temps and scratch up very gently!!!!!! Grey is a crap colour anyway and casts shadows. the best solution to cover this would be a Krend primer then a thin coat Tc15 type product which can be put on directly on to scraped texture as long as its not been painted! K-rend provide a data sheet for this. I would bite the bullet and pay out my own pocket. I have been in this situation and that's why my view is what it is. Seen your work before and ive seen you do some good graft in the past.
K rend u really gotta be scratching the same day unless its really cold. You gotta come really proud with it too so that when you scratch it back its flush as you wanted. Not bad tho fellla. Love all your videos.
You’d be better off beading up again with 6mm beads reapply small layer, leaving to set and scraping before it sets, you won’t have scraping difficulty all day and only costs half the original materials to rectify
Watching this video I understand a bit more about K rend having seen the finish. It does have a nice finish I admit. I remember seeing a black coloured render on a building the other day which looked really nice and I wondered how it had been done. Now I understand that that was K rend for sure.
Please invest in an FFP3 mask, all that dust in your lungs is a killer. I use the JSP force 8 from screwfix.
All the best 😉😉
Mask up for sure ! √
Great job but get a mask fella👍🍺
A right pain ,hard to beat sand and cement floated, and a coat of paint
Seal it and silicone render it be quicker we’ve all been court out with k rend
That ended up being hard work Darren but the end result is great! I love the grey render b
God that looked like tedious work. Please get a mask as that dust will harm your lungs.
I think we can all agree you have a work ethic to admire and the patience of Job . Talk about everything going against you . Good finish so far though
4-36 hours isn't a choice mate. You have to scratch same day or next morning at the very least. U can't choose... also no basecoat means every time it rains the morter joins will grim through. If u need any tips call Campbells Plastering
Is this job hassle because of the drying times and weather? Everyone seems to promote it as easy and they’re all making a fortune especially the ones that are spraying it on but finding the truth is hard as honest guys now are hard to find.
I’m old school only done sand and cement in the past and fucked that off because of the weather and prefering to work indoors.
Hard work mate. Always a fine line between cured and not. Weather against you to Darren but sure you ll learn from this one its how we all do.
I bet you dont leave it that long next time🤣🤣, nice to see you getting more and more subscribers Darren
In the past I have used the blade off a bow saw. Rolled into a circle and tied together with some wire. Very aggressive but controllable.
Your Krend was out of date, that's why it went off so quick! Look at the Date on the bags.
Sorry my Bad! I thought the date was best before.
i have some p40 pads that fit my drywall sander if that worked would be a lot easier job especially it fitted to d a dust extractor much cleaner
Watching from Spain . We always render first then put this on . In Spain will call this mono capa
Render first, do U mean sand/ cement scratch Coat? Is your 1st coat ruled plumb, then Next day apply finish coat/scratch, any problems with high points flashing through to finish Coat? Big Thanks in advance if U reply to above, only started to do small job's, get hang of it 😅
Try k rends TC 15 instead. Some much easier and quicker. And think it looks better than the scratch stuff.
Love your honesty
That looked like hard work, your arms must be killing you!
I like k rend but don't think it's the best thing to use in England especially as people don't maintain it properly it looks bad after a couple of years all the little holes get filled with dirt and it starts looking green if it's a light colour
Just a jetwash every now and then works well
My husband jet washing k rend on house 2 times per year keeps it looking fresh 😊
Too right, but it makes for a good business opportunity...large housing development near me employs two companies full time cleaning this stuff when it's gone green.
@@mozzer999
The last wash wouldn't be with sugary water, would it? :-)
@@mozzer999 is this for rented priorities
First like 👍🏽
Hi, I am looking for a good renderer for a front porch built with cement boards, so needs to be done in silicone render, are you interested in doing this, I am based in Edmonton north london.
To much hard work that krend you need to change to johnsons silicone render similar but better product and easy to do
Hard work but i think you pulled it off in the end... well done!!!
Good man showing your mistakes...but even better that you didnt just walk away.well done looks great
Did you scratch coat that first ? You can see the blockwork through it
Excelente trabajo 💯💯💯🙏🙏🙏🙏
The dreaded k-rend being so unpredictable, have you tried Weber? I prefer it as i find it better to apply and easier to rub down
Yes I’ve tried it only once. Gonna look it to others
@@darrenthebuilder there's one called eco rend as well
😂😂😂😂🎉
Fair dues, fact you didn’t let the render defeat you!,, 👍👍
😂😂
Fair play mate for sticking that up ,I’ve never used k rend always wondered y all the scratching lol
What’s the cost per bag at the moment ??
Thanks
It’s about £13-15 per bag
@@darrenthebuilder Fair play to you mate. Thanks for all info how long would you leave krend not to get any problems thank you
Ive left it to long myself I fell your pain buddy keep up the hard work 👊
Thanks good video
We've all been there mate. K rend is great when it goes right but there's so many things that can go wrong and all the other factors. I try stay clear of it now mate and just use thin coat (JUB) so much more durable, less mess and f***king about.
Good video boss like the honesty doesn't always go our way
Hi
Brilliant vids mate..thanks.
I based in South London, want to do k rend crash course, any recomendation pls?
Hello, I enjoy your videos. What type of hole saw are you using? Some are for metal and some for wood? Would like to know? Thank you 😊
Hahahaha ayup mush looks like you definitely know what your doing there 🤣
Nice 👍
What float are you using to rub up with buddy
More concerned how you can see every block than anything else. Your scratcher wore down you needed a new one or several in reserve
It’s called ghosting and will disappear as blocks dry out
Never had ghosting before, did you do a base coat with mesh?
@pmaconthehunt6648 it can happen if the concrete block mortar hasn’t fully cured. Especially if laid in the colder weather
Fair play for showing the video
I lay it on extra thick if leaving over night and a new scratcher for every job, glad you rescued it.
That was some intense manual labor 💪🏽. It’s great the way you are determined to finish a project correctly! Great job and I like the grey !
Left far too long and that’s why it was so hard, all about timing woth scratching, the discolouration and pits tbh this ain’t a good finish at all
😂 iv been that man many times🤦♂️
Un trabajo duro. No es mejor pasarle la frota en seco? Saludos Antonio
keep jobbing mate.
Just been going through your videos love your Work what colour grey is that please ?
Thanks its Pewter Grey
Will you see the lines of the blocks once its fully cured?
No not once cured
In my experience on doing k rend jobs, I-bar and scratch the same day as application is aways best. I have only ever done it the following morning when it between 5c-0c over night.
You should always be putting the render on early in order to finish same day, 7am start on cool days and have the render on no later than 11am. In the i-bar process you should always have 3-4mm thickness past the bead so if the render is still too soft to bar, have a long tooth scraper handy to open up the render to let it go off then you should be able to bar it off quicker. Then scratching off should be easy, using any dust that falls down to fill any holes (the dust will still be quite moist and easy to manipulate, rather than completely dry if doing it the next day)
And obviously the final finish thickness should be no less than 10mm as there will be light patches throughout the finish if any thiner. The base coat should only be thin, to seal the block work and bed the mesh in
Thanks for the useful info. Why does the k rend need to be scratched at the end? Surely like internal plaster it’s better to have smooth finish - uneducated guess. Thanks in advance.
@@almusti k rend is a scratch finish render. Once the render is scratched it then shows the colour it is meant to be. I personally think that k rend looks miles better then sand and cement due to the slight texture and the colours are very accurate. I think some people think k rend has way more of a texture than it does, like rough cast render which you see on old cottages.
Painted sand and cement can peel over time which then requires re painting.
@@tobynewman6405 thanks for the reply. I was wondering if you have ever done silicone render and how does it compare to k rend? Thanks. I’ll go through your videos to see if you’ve got one. 👍🏻
@@almusti I prefer k rend as I like the finish more but that's just personal preference.
I don't have any videos. I am a plasterer just don't post vids on RUclips.
Is it okay to do k rend is raining and winter conditions?
I wouldnt if its raining as the rain could discolour it. also not too cold. I believe its best from 4 degrees up to about 35
Mate that is a shambles please stay away from render
I’m not your mate
@@darrenthebuilder I know u ain't I am a renderer myself and if I had to meet u on a job a would send u on ure way lad that is a shambles u have left there
@@rosco7280 send me on my way? Do I work for you? Who do you think you are my boss? Lol
@@darrenthebuilder no I wouldn't even let u mix never mind let u on the wall if that is ure standard of work lad
@@rosco7280 you would never be able to get someone likes to work for you. Get down off your high horse as no one cares about you or what you’re doing. Go do your own jobs and enjoy it over there.
Sorry but having umbrellas behind your seats, you kinder fucked up to pass as an experienced tradesman.
Nice to see Bengali brothers in the trade. Good workmanship too.
mate....what are you doing????? I've watched loads of your videos and you're really good at what you do. this is making rendering a joke. your making you're]self look stupid I'm sorry to say. its terrible and in that situation I would take it on the chin and hack off and start from the beginning. its like scratching a stone on the ground. I have my own building company and Krend company on the Fylde coast in Lancashire. you have really let yourself down with this video.............. Just terrible 🤔
Good positive feedback from Kristian, fuk working with you dude 😐
Shut up you toss pot, the man is trying to help people out .these situations happen .
Admire the man for his honesty.
And the great thing is people have popped up with solutions to this situation on the comments.
Well done that man for putting it up.
Fair one pal. As a fellow plasterer. (Bristol based)
It's pretty hard to get the timings spot on
Nice save. I'm using weber monocouch at the moment.