For the mates kits thing I've always liked the compromise of it's allowed, but only after you have a fully trained apprentice just to ensure there's enough paws around. It makes more sense, gets rid of the uncomfy element of being so overly controlling over the medicine cat's bodies and lives (glances at that 'the clans are a cult' video you shared recently on twitter) and you CAN still have the drama that I imagine was part of it's original purpose. "Oh I love you so much but I just can't! I don't have an apprentice yet!! Wait for me my love!!" "Oh I shouldn't but I want to so badly I just can't wait any longer!!!" "Oh no I became pregnant too soon and I don't have an apprentice! What am I going to do!!!"
"oh no what am I to do it's not like there are several nursing queens in my clan or at least ONE nursing queen who could care for my kits when I cannot and my mate their father would love to be part of their lives!" lol
I think medicine cats SHOULDNT have kits or a mate. Not because favoritism and distractions and all that, but because it's more of a tradeoff, I guess. It would be unfair to the warriors that the medicine cat could have a connection to Starclan AND a family. I think of it as a nun situation. The medicine cats are nuns and Starclan is god. They cant have a relationship or children in return for the special position they have in the clan that allows them to communicate with Starclan, not be involved with clan rivalries, and the knowledge of herbs that they learn.
@@RavenLunatic517 "I think these people shouldn't be allowed to have a family because they already have something special about them! They can talk to God! They don't deserve to have a happy and loving family and their own lives! Grr!"
@@snazzy_clock That isnt what I said at all. Please dont twist my words to make it seem like I'm a heartless person. And besides, they can be happy without children or a mate. There are plenty of happy people who are childless and single.
Yes!! I have this whole oc/au fic thing (the clans in the distant future have to deal with the aftermath of a plague-- unfortunately I started writing it right before the whole COVID-19 mess started lol) and as I was developing it I instantly knew I wanted there to be an evil medicine cat! An evil medicine cat could manipulate "messages from Starclan" to get their way, or they can mistreat their clanmates, etc, all the while having to hide their intentions from Starclan... It's a super interesting concept and I'd love to see it happen in the books!
That’s sounds like an awesome story! The Erins are cowards though and basically put every medicine cat on this pedestal, so I feel like they would be too scared to ruin the “picture-perfect” sacred holy StarClan bond (ugh). However, with the direction this new arc is taking us, fingers crossed they’ll be more brave in the long run oof.
The magic and mystery of StarClan has indeed faded. I remember when Leafpool's visions at the Moonstone were just that. Cryptic, vague visions. And then Jayfeather could just go to StarClan and chat with them like anyone alive and I thought that was because of his powers. But then suddenly every medicine cat could do that. It was just normal to have a pleasant chat every two weeks with your dead ancestors. I really hope all the other medicine cats would only have the cryptic and vague visions and need to decipher them (and like actually do that and just think every chapter "hm, I wonder what this meant... Oh well.") and Jayfeather have the ability to actually communicate with them, since he was actually supposed to have an unnaturally strong and close connection with them. But I'd still want them to be more mysterious and secretive, like how Rock was at the start. He could speak with them but they wouldn't still really have a full of conversation with him.
Yeah you were going to have a booth so morally Grey actions like have someone break the code or beaver code breakers take responsibility for it and think of ways to do what you need to do without causing needless suffering
Tbh, actual communications between StarClan and the clans is wat I dislike. Prophecies, omens, vague dreams, small whispers, nine-lives ceremony, they're _fine_ , but if like a dead cat visits a living relarice and just goes, "I'm sorry father, I died" thats cheap. I prefer if they just relay the news vaguely, like when Yellowfang gave Jayfeather a crow feather to tell them who their bio father was. (I always wondered where Hollyleaf got her color since no cat had that palette). The nine lives thing can be an exception since u are visiting ur loved ones for ur extra lives. Jayfeather as well since he's a prophecied cat but everything else? Just no.
I've always liked the idea of a genuinely restrictive set of visions from Starclan. Like, maybe they can't appear as cats. Instead, they have to design the environment of the dream to reference cats' names and fates. I liked when they showed a hedge of brambles protecting the camp to indicate Brambleclaw. This way there's a lot more intrigue in interpreting them and room for error beyond the Starclan cats just refusing to tell them some things. It also lends a bit more credence to the cats who don't believe in Starclan. Like, the "Fire will save the clan" prophecy could have showed a forest on fire but blooming despite it. Maybe the "kin of your kin will hold the power of the stars in their paws" could have had embers from that fire becoming the stars and blotting out the sky.
Another issue I have is how the authors portray being a medicine cat as being a lesser alternative to being a warrior especially in power of three where Jayfeather had to be forced into the role and the whole Cinderpent/heart situation just made the role seem like a "well I can't be a warrior for xyz reason so I'm just going to be a medicine cat so I can still be useful
@@pamcarey750 no, cinderpelt was forced into it because of her leg. She could of survived on her own with the limp leg in patrols and stuff, cats do it all the time
It also seems to be a uniquely ThunderClan thing. WindClan literally had a deputy that had a broken foot that gave him a significant limp (Deadfoot). RiverClan had a leader with a disfigured jaw, (Crookedstar), and we even got to see Crookedstar go on his journey of dealing with his disability after the accident. ThunderClan always shoves their disabled into the Medicine Den or Elder’s Den. The only exception I can think of is Brightheart and maybe Berrynose if you count his missing tail.
he knew a lot of things, like "the lake will run red with the blood of brothers!" (That happens in Starlight) and "Rivers of blood, washing away everything the Clans have known..." (That happens in THE FOURTH APPRENTICE) oof
I love how the progression of the portraits is just more and more stressed characters. Also I totally agree with everything you said, one of the things I hate most about the books is how StarClan went from being a religion that was actually interesting and mysterious to just a bunch of useless dead people. And the mates and kits rule is ridiculous, especially if a clan has 2+ medicine cats.
I actually kinda like the whole can't have kits rule, not for the rule itself really but more how it came up as it's kinda funny IMO. It wasn't any big StarClan thing and wasn't caused by anything dramatic and horrifying because a medicine cat had such a huge bias cats died, it was just because a young mother couldn't handle her kids and her job and didn't think she could just ask another cat to babysit during the day before going the extreme route and demanding other cats not be allowed to have kits just because SHE couldn't handle it lol. TBH I find her extremely selfish in that regard lol.
ThunderClan literally had enough medicine cats last ark to rent out Leafpool to the other clans like. I think that a cat could handle her duties and her kits
I fricking love medicine cats! They usually have a really interesting reason to become or some cool (if sometimes poorly executed) conflicts. Plus their authority in the clan makes sense considering their connection to StarClan. I love a lot of medicine cats like Jay boi, Echosong, Yellowfang, Alderheart, Leafpool, Mothwing, and Willowshine. The code is dumb though. I recommend Bright Guardian Akira’s video about pregnancy in warriors.
I think my favourite way I've ever written a med cat was like this: >training as an app >go to battle with windclan >accidently kill another app from windclan >feel rlly bad about it >decide to become a med cat to try and make up for it >absolutly hate starclan and refuse to talk to them and ignore their existence whenever possible because if they wanted you as a med cat they could have just told you >turns out the sister of the app you killed all those moons ago is now being possessed by a med cat from the df >you and your besties kill her eventually >you and one of your besties have feelings for each other >love each other but respect boundaries >go on a walk one night >find a loner giving birth a bit beyond your border >all the kits are snow-white, just like you >loner dies >pick up the kits to bring them back to thunderclan because according to the med cat code everyone needs to live >starclan sends you a vision and tells you that you need to bring them to shadowclan instead >bring them to shadowclan >did I mention it's the middle of a thunderstorm? it is and shadowclan's forest is set on fire >go back in to save the kits >die protecting them from the fire >every clan thinks they're your kits >the leader of your late clan thinks they belong to you and the guy you liked >they don't >shadowclan loves the kits >turn out they're part of a prophecy >it's all rlly wacc
If the Erins write a story like that, I will give them all my bank account money. And another twist they could bring Brightspirit back and she could be a medicine cat
I found it interesting they thought it was SO WILD that Teller of Pointed stones was leader and healer. I think it makes a lot of sense, considering how much power medicine cats are supposed to have over the clan (then in squilfs hope suddenly they had like. no power lol but that was bramble being.................. bramble.) but yeah I hate the no mate or kits rule like ???? but why. but its the same with the whole implication female leaders shouldnt have kits. warriors needs to stop for a second and think about these things
I feel like you missed one other thing that hurts the warriors story by having medicine cat protagonists: death becomes almost meaningless. Any important/main character, once they die, are still actively involved in the story and you get to see them, so a character death doesn't really hold as much weight
One of my ocs, puddlemoth, is a Riverclan (or in my storys waterclan (imagineative right)) med cat, no real reason for riverclan, I just wanted them to them swim and i think riverclan needs more attention.
Yep, we need more either Moth'Wings or Hawk'Frost, Even though he killed my Holly'Leaf! Basically just more gayness and conflict, because I like me some juicy fight scenes!
i feel like mothwing would have been good to mention as an interesting medicine cat potential pov, cant lose the mysticism of starclan if the pov character doesn't think its real after all
Oh my god. Someone finally said it. Medicine Cats shouldn't be so isolated from their clan. You'd think that being in a role where you're supposed to care for your clan would make you want to get closer to the members of your community. Sometimes, a cat doesn't need just physical healing, but emotional support or spiritual/moral guidance and that's something that you'd normally see fall in a healer's role for a bunch of fantasy. Maybe some of these Medicine Cats wouldn't be so freaking upset with their position if they were actually able to engage with their clanmates in meaningful and constructive ways.
My favorite Medicine Cat is easily Mothwing and Shadowsight-Mothwing I relate to in wanting to believe in a higher power but just can't. And Shadowsight is my child . I feel like if Warriors followed the Sith's rule of two a master and an apprentice so many issues would be solved for the Clans. From ThunderClan having THREE Medicine Cats which is just too much, to ShadowClan not having ANY after Littlecloud died. I also wish the Erins would just STOP forcing ThunderClan cats to HAVE no choice but to be a Medicine Cat-EVERY other clan in the lake territories and forest had cats who WANTED to be medicine cats but nope not thunderclan...sure it adds drama but it also seems to just make the Medicine Cat position seem lesser than that of a warrior and I hate it-without doctors their clans would suffer.
I love how you did the backgrounds for each character! They fit each character perfectly. My favorite medicine cat is probably cinderpelt. But I really like shadowsight so far!
I really like the fact that medicine cats can't have kits. They say it's because they won't get bias, but I think it has more to do with priorities. Like when cats want to become leaders, it isnt really a good thing to be a mother aswell. It also references some religions in the real world, the ones connected to starclan, can't have kids and mates. It is logical and (sadly) realistic that there are weird/useless rules. Perfect communities don't exist and that makes it interesting to me. I'm not that good at explaining (and English lol), but I thought it was a nice element.
I agree! In today's world we have laws and regulations from years ago that no longer really apply, but we don't change or amend them. That doesn't make it a good thing, but having a flawed society makes the world more interesting and the *frustration* we feel for the medicine cats affected by the rules that make less sense make the books more affective, no matter how silly the rule is.
This is just something I thought of for how medicine cats aren’t allowed to have kits, I know for she-cats it may take away from their jobs but what about toms?! Toms normally don’t take care of the kits or take part in raising them, except for Fern song of course. But for toms would it really affect their jobs as medicine cats?
Why not just write out most of the medicine cats' interactions with StarClan, especially at the Moonpool. To me, that seems to be the answer to all mysticism. You would never see it, only be able to understand through one cat's memory, which we all know memory can be flawed, and Mothwing's Nihilism can make some sense. It is more tricky to write like this, but I think it might be more fulfilling.
Leafpool is probably my favorite medicine cat so far since I’m only on long shadows, but I was disappointed that Leafpool and Crowfeather sort of just threw a relationship into the plot. It seemed sudden and almost like a distraction from the plot in the new prophecy. But I’ve always been a bit frustrated when medicine cats get a vital piece of information that could save their clan but don’t tell any of the other medicine cats or the leader. So to fix that whole issue I would start off with then being more open about their visions with the other medicine cats or their leader so they can work together to figure out the problem.
I don’t know what they’d change but this ark is perfect for a change on the codes because it’s pointing out how ridiculous the codes are so they have a perfect setup for drastic change in both of the codes
My favorite medicine cats have to be Littlecloud and Willowshine. They have very nice names and designs and their desires to actually become medicine cats is one of my favorite things in warriors. We often see medicine cats that just get thrown into their position or we’re told they have a desire for their position but never see it. Reading how Littlecloud’s life was changed by Cinderpelt and how Willowshine had a constant love for herbs and helping her clanmates really helps them feel like actual characters and gives us a sense of just how much they love their job. It’s much better (imo) than a cat that’s told to be a healer or just has a connection with StarClan for some reason.
I feel that the power of medicine cats being able to talk to star clan is the most important part of being a medicine cat which makes their role cruical to the clan but when normal warriors just get dreams from star clan it really takes away the power of medicine cats making them less important
I agree with you soooo much! My favorite characters are: Squirrelflight Jayfeather Shadowsight Briarlight Goosefeather Cinderpelt Mothwing Sandstorm Crowfeather And of course sassy Yellowfang
Oh my gosh Tenelle, I so agree with you, I am half- hoping the author's can fix their mistakes by lifting certain medicine cat rules, like "medicine cats can't fall in love with anyone or have kits"
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Gosh. Why do I love your Alderheart design so much? He is just so cute and huggable! Also that Jayfeather portrait is one of the best drawings I have seen of him. Amazing!
I think at least part of the problem is that StarClan, and therefore medicine cats, are used as exposition dumps for things that the cats would have no other way of knowing and that's why the mystery faded. Hopefully, this arc will change StarClan in some major way like limiting how freely they can give prophecises or removing the cats we see there all the time.
That idea about not having a med cat pov would be great for Shadowsight and his character, but then we would've never had the proper Jayfeather because we wouldn't have seen life in the clans from him.
I like to make stories as well, to sorta tackle these issues. One of my oc’s Hazeeyes is a medicine cat, who has one little issue- he can’t get in contact with Starclan. But, he can sure get in contact with the dark forest. He can’t receive any omens from Starclan, and his clan is in a bit of a pickle due to his situation.
My main medicine cat oc is Owlwing, she was born in ShadowClan and was originally a warrior, but eventually she decided she would rather be a medicine cat. Also she gets more anxious and becomes Goosefeather - y. Her own brother was a villain and killed a few cats, including her mentor. She starts panicking at every small thing and distrusts everyone. She refused to take an apprentice until she started going blind from old age.
You should have included Flametail My favorite Medicine cat is probably Goosefeather because he is very underrated. And because he had a really hard life and everyone thought he was crazy for it even his sister. He was definitely ripped off when they started writing him as a stupid, crazy, mean cat.
Katlyn Criswell If her secret is that she is in love with a tom I will be so sad. I want the fact that Mothwing was manipulated and practically abused by Hawkfrost to be properly acknowledged and how his actions impacted her lack of faith in StarClan.
I didn't know who Shadowsight was so I looked him up on the Warriors wiki, one thing led to another and I gotta say... literally WHAT is going on in The Broken Code
I was thinking about it and it seems that people would get upset about not having that Medicine cat POV early on, so my solution to fix this would be to take Mothwing's point of view when she is Barkface's apprentice. People would be satisfied to have a Medicine cat POV, while it wouldn't give away any of Starclan's secrets. Also, it'd be a look into Riverclan life, instead of hopping into Thunderclan again. Yay! Just killed 3 birds with 1 stone.
My favorite medicine cats and overall favorite characters would have to be Alderheart and Shadowpaw. They just give a whole new turn on medicine cats throughout the warrior series. No matter who it is, Alderheart always goes out of his way to make the other cats feel welcome and respected, and Shadowpaw has an incredibly interesting story as far as the new arc goes. I'm very excited o see what happens in the new series!!!!! And I do agree on your statement about how the medicine cat code has flaws. Why can't they have kits? Biases will always me a thing you know. Also, can we just point out how Squirrelflight went ahead and had Alderheart and Sparkpelt after the whole scandal with Leafpool and her kits? I still have mixed feelings about that
They should make an evil medicine cat character. It’s surprising to me that they’ve written so many arcs with so many medicine cats, and yet not one of them has tried to get away with lying about what Starclan tells them to get what they want. Like, maybe they could make a character whose sibling isn’t a medicine cat and wants to be the deputy, so the medicine cat tells the clan leader that Starclan wants the sibling to be the deputy. It’s a perfect opportunity for Erin Hunter.
HorseGirl Forever They also have access to all the medicine in the clan. They know which plants are dangerous. If it isn’t a well known poison then the other cats will be none the wiser when they’re being taken care of. The medicine cat could injure or sicken cats that may pose a threat to their power.
@@nyabis8044 Yeah. It'd be so easy for them to manipulate their whole clan to gain control, and poison those who disagreed. That should totally happen.
the one thing i have to say about this is.... fametail. he was shadow'clans medicine cat and he was very close with few of the warriors and was very well taught in fighting skills, i feel like hes an exeption because he was treated welll and not ignored, he also spoke about his visions all the time but his mentour didnt fully trust it, but over all i agree with you tennelle
I can’t stop laughing, I started wheezing when you said, “ Ah yes, I’m sure could all use the of magical healing powers of cats I the wild.” XD ((If you know what I mean))
Ooo... maybe we should get some Mothwing chapters in replace of leafpool!!!!! We could get her prospective, and her struggles to get away from Hawkfrost and her lack of belief from Starclan! I think those would be very interesting!!!!!!!
Or just take a break and think about the new ways the books could go into- I would honestly rather wait a year or two before a new book gets dished out and that being an interesting and different story than have a ton of super editions and new books coming out super fast and them being a stale copy of each other, or at least if nothing else- make a few books happen inside other clans, we only get se's about river clan, shadow clan and wind clan, I just want more rather than occasional fights and occasional cameo from other clans, they have so many interesting characters I want to see more of but they are showed into the background because thunderclan is the best and only clan apparently :/
Pebble Heart, Acorn Fur, basically any medicine cat from Dawn of the Clans. I love Dawn of the Clans, and it's my favorite Warriors arc. The Super Editions are pretty good too though.
I still would like to know how Leafpool got her colors... like, Firestar is ginger with green eyes and Sandstorm is Pale with green eyes so how did Leafpool get amber eyes and brown, dark brown, and light brown colors....
Nutmeg is brown (Firestars mother) and Princess is brown (Firestars sister). Id reccomend checking out my Firestars Family Tree video as it shows my designs and you can see the colours through the family. (You don't have to, im not trying to self promo im just trying to help. Dont feel like you have it check it out, I don't mind either way)
Instead of Leafpaw from her point of view in The new prophecy we should have gotten Mothwing and her tension with Hawkfrost, her losing faith in starclan, and her connection with Leafpaw plus we can still keep track on whats happening with the clans!
I miss when StarClan communicated through hard to read signs and omens instead of "oh, here you go, this is what to do". When Fireheart had dreams from StarClan they were almost always mysterious and indirect. Even when Spottedleaf spoke with him it was never straight forward. Of course, it's meant for a young audience, so the prophecies couldnt be too complicated, but it left that mysticism. Now, like you said, there is nothing mysterious about StarClan. I also agree that medicine cats should interact more with the clan. Doctors and nurses have friends. No one stops being friends with a doctor just because they got their PhD.
The thing about the medicine cat code- They are not to have a family becuase as stated in Mothflight vison(when the Med cat code is created.) They are to not have kits becase you cant worry about your family being in danger when you have to help someone. It could distract the mother/father cat from saving the cat. It's not a dumb code, it's to protect the medicine cats and their clan. Idk I'm sorry qwp
Red Rynx' Wolf Medicine cats still have parents, siblings, nieces, nephews, grandparents, cousins, friends, etc. That would still cause bias. They have family and friends, some cats they like more than others. If they can deal with bias with their family and friends, they can deal with bias when it comes to mates or kits.
There are so many ways around this though. Have another queen take care of your kits when you're busy, wait until you have a fully trained apprentice so they can take over for you temporarily. It's very doable. Not to mention this only really applies to female medicine cats. Male medicine cats won't be out of commission at all from having a family because they're not the ones who give birth so there's really no reason at all to restrict them like that. Also, like Tennelle said, a medicine cat will always have family to worry about regardless. They still have parents, siblings, nephews/nieces etc but those have never caused any conflict of interest before so why should kits?
Gosh I love these designs so much! So cute and epic at the same time. My favorite medicine cats are Jayfeather and Shadowsight (love his name!) I just realized all these medicine cats are related to Firestar.
EVERY SINGLE OPINION HERE IS CORRECT AND YOU LOVE TO SEE IT Also, spoilers for Silent Thaw: I really hope Shadowsight isn't dead but it'd be REALLY INTERESTING if he was!!!
For the mates kits thing I've always liked the compromise of it's allowed, but only after you have a fully trained apprentice just to ensure there's enough paws around. It makes more sense, gets rid of the uncomfy element of being so overly controlling over the medicine cat's bodies and lives (glances at that 'the clans are a cult' video you shared recently on twitter) and you CAN still have the drama that I imagine was part of it's original purpose.
"Oh I love you so much but I just can't! I don't have an apprentice yet!! Wait for me my love!!"
"Oh I shouldn't but I want to so badly I just can't wait any longer!!!"
"Oh no I became pregnant too soon and I don't have an apprentice! What am I going to do!!!"
"oh no what am I to do it's not like there are several nursing queens in my clan or at least ONE nursing queen who could care for my kits when I cannot and my mate their father would love to be part of their lives!" lol
I think medicine cats SHOULDNT have kits or a mate. Not because favoritism and distractions and all that, but because it's more of a tradeoff, I guess. It would be unfair to the warriors that the medicine cat could have a connection to Starclan AND a family. I think of it as a nun situation. The medicine cats are nuns and Starclan is god. They cant have a relationship or children in return for the special position they have in the clan that allows them to communicate with Starclan, not be involved with clan rivalries, and the knowledge of herbs that they learn.
@@RavenLunatic517 "I think these people shouldn't be allowed to have a family because they already have something special about them! They can talk to God! They don't deserve to have a happy and loving family and their own lives! Grr!"
@@snazzy_clock That isnt what I said at all. Please dont twist my words to make it seem like I'm a heartless person. And besides, they can be happy without children or a mate. There are plenty of happy people who are childless and single.
@@RavenLunatic517 *dude, that is **_literally_** what you said.*
I’m still praying for an evil medicine cat
Yes! That would be amazing!
Yes!! I have this whole oc/au fic thing (the clans in the distant future have to deal with the aftermath of a plague-- unfortunately I started writing it right before the whole COVID-19 mess started lol) and as I was developing it I instantly knew I wanted there to be an evil medicine cat! An evil medicine cat could manipulate "messages from Starclan" to get their way, or they can mistreat their clanmates, etc, all the while having to hide their intentions from Starclan... It's a super interesting concept and I'd love to see it happen in the books!
That’s sounds like an awesome story! The Erins are cowards though and basically put every medicine cat on this pedestal, so I feel like they would be too scared to ruin the “picture-perfect” sacred holy StarClan bond (ugh). However, with the direction this new arc is taking us, fingers crossed they’ll be more brave in the long run oof.
I actually really wanna make an evil medicine cat oc now-+
I know! It would be the coolest way to inflict some drama and storyline/backstory!
People say it’s not in the Warrior code that medicine cats can’t have kits
*have people forgotten about the medicine cat code*
Lemon Drop
Just says they can’t have a mate. Despite some cats not having a mate while raising kits.
It’s a rule but it’s not aficialy in the warrior code
Moon Watcher officially* and like I said it’s in the medicine cat code but since that code isn’t mentioned often, people forget about it
They can't fall in love either
Spirit Echø yeah they have but that doesn’t mean it’s not against the rules
Me when everybody’s home: *Quietly hums the intro*
Me when I’m home alone: WITH THE NEW SHOW OF DRAWING A BLANK
relatable
I have done that!
I can relate to that! One time I was watching near my family members and the video started off full volume by accident OoP-
lol
Sinfully relatable
I honestly think we all need a medicine cat right now.
If you're referring to corona, then yes
Glaszwing what the heck that was a super creative joke ahzhxhjejsj
@@kedicurly I am a joke master.
*But I give credit to Simmy for that one.*
Glaszwing oh yeah I wrote this before watching the video lmfao
@@kedicurly oof
Why is nobody talking about how Tenelle's design of Alderheart is the purest thing in this Fandom?
T r u e
we stan alderheart 😔💖
you are
I've always imagined Alderheart with a wide fluffy head and her design is exactly that!
Alderheart has got to be one of my favorite characters. He is just a sweet little boi.
Asdfgh Tennelle remembered Jayfeather's scar on his back!
Yeah
Wait how did he get the scar on his back? It’s been a long time since I’ve caught up on the series and I don’t remember.
@@justaperson57 he got it from his fight with Breezepelt at the Moonpool, in The Fourth Apprentice
@@alexandraknepp4263 oh thanks
When corona virus develops into an apocalypse, all warriors fans will survive because we know the true cure... catmint!
You madlad, WERES THE CATNIP?!
You speak truth
Just saying, I forgot which book it was in, but one time the Erins no joke accidentaly called catmint catnip. Like seriously oof
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The magic and mystery of StarClan has indeed faded. I remember when Leafpool's visions at the Moonstone were just that. Cryptic, vague visions. And then Jayfeather could just go to StarClan and chat with them like anyone alive and I thought that was because of his powers. But then suddenly every medicine cat could do that. It was just normal to have a pleasant chat every two weeks with your dead ancestors.
I really hope all the other medicine cats would only have the cryptic and vague visions and need to decipher them (and like actually do that and just think every chapter "hm, I wonder what this meant... Oh well.") and Jayfeather have the ability to actually communicate with them, since he was actually supposed to have an unnaturally strong and close connection with them. But I'd still want them to be more mysterious and secretive, like how Rock was at the start. He could speak with them but they wouldn't still really have a full of conversation with him.
yeah :(
Agreed.
Yeah you were going to have a booth so morally Grey actions like have someone break the code or beaver code breakers take responsibility for it and think of ways to do what you need to do without causing needless suffering
Tbh, actual communications between StarClan and the clans is wat I dislike. Prophecies, omens, vague dreams, small whispers, nine-lives ceremony, they're _fine_ , but if like a dead cat visits a living relarice and just goes, "I'm sorry father, I died" thats cheap.
I prefer if they just relay the news vaguely, like when Yellowfang gave Jayfeather a crow feather to tell them who their bio father was. (I always wondered where Hollyleaf got her color since no cat had that palette).
The nine lives thing can be an exception since u are visiting ur loved ones for ur extra lives. Jayfeather as well since he's a prophecied cat but everything else? Just no.
I've always liked the idea of a genuinely restrictive set of visions from Starclan. Like, maybe they can't appear as cats. Instead, they have to design the environment of the dream to reference cats' names and fates. I liked when they showed a hedge of brambles protecting the camp to indicate Brambleclaw. This way there's a lot more intrigue in interpreting them and room for error beyond the Starclan cats just refusing to tell them some things. It also lends a bit more credence to the cats who don't believe in Starclan.
Like, the "Fire will save the clan" prophecy could have showed a forest on fire but blooming despite it. Maybe the "kin of your kin will hold the power of the stars in their paws" could have had embers from that fire becoming the stars and blotting out the sky.
Another issue I have is how the authors portray being a medicine cat as being a lesser alternative to being a warrior especially in power of three where Jayfeather had to be forced into the role and the whole Cinderpent/heart situation just made the role seem like a "well I can't be a warrior for xyz reason so I'm just going to be a medicine cat so I can still be useful
Cinderpelt also did it because she was better at medicine than fighting
@@pamcarey750 no, cinderpelt was forced into it because of her leg. She could of survived on her own with the limp leg in patrols and stuff, cats do it all the time
It also seems to be a uniquely ThunderClan thing. WindClan literally had a deputy that had a broken foot that gave him a significant limp (Deadfoot). RiverClan had a leader with a disfigured jaw, (Crookedstar), and we even got to see Crookedstar go on his journey of dealing with his disability after the accident. ThunderClan always shoves their disabled into the Medicine Den or Elder’s Den. The only exception I can think of is Brightheart and maybe Berrynose if you count his missing tail.
I've wanted to do a picture of *all* the medicine cats for a long time, medicine cats need more time to shine.
fav med cat: Goosefeather
why: if u read bluestar's prophecy, then you'd know, HE FREAKING ALREADY NEW WHAT TIGEERKIT WAS GOING TO BECOME!!!!!
he knew a lot of things, like "the lake will run red with the blood of brothers!" (That happens in Starlight) and "Rivers of blood, washing away everything the Clans have known..." (That happens in THE FOURTH APPRENTICE) oof
And also traumatized him by basically yelling at him, an innocent kit, that he was the spawn of Satan-
Just think if they actually listened to Goosefeather. The plot would have probably been centered around another villain
Same he is the best
THAT KIT SHOULDN'T HAVE SURVIVED
Then again, what if his sisters survive?
I love how the progression of the portraits is just more and more stressed characters. Also I totally agree with everything you said, one of the things I hate most about the books is how StarClan went from being a religion that was actually interesting and mysterious to just a bunch of useless dead people. And the mates and kits rule is ridiculous, especially if a clan has 2+ medicine cats.
I actually kinda like the whole can't have kits rule, not for the rule itself really but more how it came up as it's kinda funny IMO. It wasn't any big StarClan thing and wasn't caused by anything dramatic and horrifying because a medicine cat had such a huge bias cats died, it was just because a young mother couldn't handle her kids and her job and didn't think she could just ask another cat to babysit during the day before going the extreme route and demanding other cats not be allowed to have kits just because SHE couldn't handle it lol. TBH I find her extremely selfish in that regard lol.
... I've always thought the same thing.
ThunderClan literally had enough medicine cats last ark to rent out Leafpool to the other clans like. I think that a cat could handle her duties and her kits
Karenclaw
The entitled mom who decided that if she couldn't handle her kits as a medicine cat then NO ONE CAN
@@Ckwhc Karenclaw is the next great villain 10/10
Looking at you Moth Flight
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Obtuse, rubber goose, green moose, guava juice, giant snake, birthday cake, large fries, chocolate shake
Uh..
Lol
Not many people get that referral
Edit : Reference, I mean reference not referral.
That's what I was thinking too! XD
(R.I.P to those people who don't get it tho...)
It took me like 30 seconds to understand the reference. XD
I get it lol
I fricking love medicine cats! They usually have a really interesting reason to become or some cool (if sometimes poorly executed) conflicts. Plus their authority in the clan makes sense considering their connection to StarClan. I love a lot of medicine cats like Jay boi, Echosong, Yellowfang, Alderheart, Leafpool, Mothwing, and Willowshine. The code is dumb though. I recommend Bright Guardian Akira’s video about pregnancy in warriors.
I though Jay Boi said Ya Boi, still applies
The video started playing in a silent room with a guest whilst my phone was at full volume.
*"IF YOUR-"*
me: aAh nO sToP
Once i did that at the dmv XD
I think my favourite way I've ever written a med cat was like this:
>training as an app
>go to battle with windclan
>accidently kill another app from windclan
>feel rlly bad about it
>decide to become a med cat to try and make up for it
>absolutly hate starclan and refuse to talk to them and ignore their existence whenever possible because if they wanted you as a med cat they could have just told you
>turns out the sister of the app you killed all those moons ago is now being possessed by a med cat from the df
>you and your besties kill her eventually
>you and one of your besties have feelings for each other
>love each other but respect boundaries
>go on a walk one night
>find a loner giving birth a bit beyond your border
>all the kits are snow-white, just like you
>loner dies
>pick up the kits to bring them back to thunderclan because according to the med cat code everyone needs to live
>starclan sends you a vision and tells you that you need to bring them to shadowclan instead
>bring them to shadowclan
>did I mention it's the middle of a thunderstorm? it is and shadowclan's forest is set on fire
>go back in to save the kits
>die protecting them from the fire
>every clan thinks they're your kits
>the leader of your late clan thinks they belong to you and the guy you liked
>they don't
>shadowclan loves the kits
>turn out they're part of a prophecy
>it's all rlly wacc
@@havesomehotcocoa8076 oml thank you!
The chaos... I love it
If the Erins write a story like that, I will give them all my bank account money. And another twist they could bring Brightspirit back and she could be a medicine cat
@@rockyclancy9777 heck yeah
Oh
Oh *gawd.*
This is *good.*
I found it interesting they thought it was SO WILD that Teller of Pointed stones was leader and healer. I think it makes a lot of sense, considering how much power medicine cats are supposed to have over the clan (then in squilfs hope suddenly they had like. no power lol but that was bramble being.................. bramble.) but yeah I hate the no mate or kits rule like ???? but why. but its the same with the whole implication female leaders shouldnt have kits. warriors needs to stop for a second and think about these things
Such cute drawings - and reasonable critiques. Honestly, the fact that the ENTIRE society of Warriors hasn't changed yet is a bit stupid.
I feel like the Erin's are leading up to a change in warrior society
I feel like you missed one other thing that hurts the warriors story by having medicine cat protagonists: death becomes almost meaningless. Any important/main character, once they die, are still actively involved in the story and you get to see them, so a character death doesn't really hold as much weight
This is exactly why Bristlefrost’s death is so epic man.
One of my ocs, puddlemoth, is a Riverclan (or in my storys waterclan (imagineative right)) med cat, no real reason for riverclan, I just wanted them to them swim and i think riverclan needs more attention.
I have a Windclan OC named Thornsight, who is a medicine cat.
I have an oc medicine cat in riverclan named Lichentail 😁
I have a ShadowClan med. cat, Pondwish ))
@@sadie783 Ooh good name!
Yep, we need more either Moth'Wings or Hawk'Frost, Even though he killed my Holly'Leaf! Basically just more gayness and conflict, because I like me some juicy fight scenes!
your style is always so smooth dude- how??
Here is how you deal with having babies as a medicine cat....
*MAKE THE DAD BE THE ONE TO CARE ABOUT THEM!*
10:47 when you're throwing away your extra cobblestone in lava but it was actually your diamonds
i feel like mothwing would have been good to mention as an interesting medicine cat potential pov, cant lose the mysticism of starclan if the pov character doesn't think its real after all
Oh my god. Someone finally said it. Medicine Cats shouldn't be so isolated from their clan. You'd think that being in a role where you're supposed to care for your clan would make you want to get closer to the members of your community. Sometimes, a cat doesn't need just physical healing, but emotional support or spiritual/moral guidance and that's something that you'd normally see fall in a healer's role for a bunch of fantasy. Maybe some of these Medicine Cats wouldn't be so freaking upset with their position if they were actually able to engage with their clanmates in meaningful and constructive ways.
(Cough Cough) Goosefeather
My favorite Medicine Cat is easily Mothwing and Shadowsight-Mothwing I relate to in wanting to believe in a higher power but just can't. And Shadowsight is my child
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I feel like if Warriors followed the Sith's rule of two a master and an apprentice so many issues would be solved for the Clans. From ThunderClan having THREE Medicine Cats which is just too much, to ShadowClan not having ANY after Littlecloud died. I also wish the Erins would just STOP forcing ThunderClan cats to HAVE no choice but to be a Medicine Cat-EVERY other clan in the lake territories and forest had cats who WANTED to be medicine cats but nope not thunderclan...sure it adds drama but it also seems to just make the Medicine Cat position seem lesser than that of a warrior and I hate it-without doctors their clans would suffer.
@@Lms2317 yeah I agree
OH MY!
*Welcome to the medicine cat cavern, the doctor cave, the witch hut*
*YES* ., I clicked as fast as I can :v
But RUclips dissapointed me
I love how you did the backgrounds for each character! They fit each character perfectly.
My favorite medicine cat is probably cinderpelt. But I really like shadowsight so far!
I really like the fact that medicine cats can't have kits. They say it's because they won't get bias, but I think it has more to do with priorities. Like when cats want to become leaders, it isnt really a good thing to be a mother aswell. It also references some religions in the real world, the ones connected to starclan, can't have kids and mates.
It is logical and (sadly) realistic that there are weird/useless rules. Perfect
communities don't exist and that makes it interesting to me.
I'm not that good at explaining (and English lol), but I thought it was a nice element.
I agree! In today's world we have laws and regulations from years ago that no longer really apply, but we don't change or amend them. That doesn't make it a good thing, but having a flawed society makes the world more interesting and the *frustration* we feel for the medicine cats affected by the rules that make less sense make the books more affective, no matter how silly the rule is.
@Elizabeth Murray Yeah I know... I do not care that much, but I think it is an interesting topic :)
@Dyu what a very interestig thought! And thanks :))
This is just something I thought of for how medicine cats aren’t allowed to have kits, I know for she-cats it may take away from their jobs but what about toms?! Toms normally don’t take care of the kits or take part in raising them, except for Fern song of course. But for toms would it really affect their jobs as medicine cats?
I could honestly imagine that the issue here would be fear of them unintentionally putting their child's lives above the rest of the clan?
An evil medicine cat would serve as a fun plot twist.
Why not just write out most of the medicine cats' interactions with StarClan, especially at the Moonpool. To me, that seems to be the answer to all mysticism. You would never see it, only be able to understand through one cat's memory, which we all know memory can be flawed, and Mothwing's Nihilism can make some sense. It is more tricky to write like this, but I think it might be more fulfilling.
Leafpool is probably my favorite medicine cat so far since I’m only on long shadows, but I was disappointed that Leafpool and Crowfeather sort of just threw a relationship into the plot. It seemed sudden and almost like a distraction from the plot in the new prophecy. But I’ve always been a bit frustrated when medicine cats get a vital piece of information that could save their clan but don’t tell any of the other medicine cats or the leader. So to fix that whole issue I would start off with then being more open about their visions with the other medicine cats or their leader so they can work together to figure out the problem.
I don’t know what they’d change but this ark is perfect for a change on the codes because it’s pointing out how ridiculous the codes are so they have a perfect setup for drastic change in both of the codes
Shadowsight is quickly becoming one of my favorites! I just love the way he’s written!
My favorite medicine cats have to be Littlecloud and Willowshine. They have very nice names and designs and their desires to actually become medicine cats is one of my favorite things in warriors. We often see medicine cats that just get thrown into their position or we’re told they have a desire for their position but never see it. Reading how Littlecloud’s life was changed by Cinderpelt and how Willowshine had a constant love for herbs and helping her clanmates really helps them feel like actual characters and gives us a sense of just how much they love their job. It’s much better (imo) than a cat that’s told to be a healer or just has a connection with StarClan for some reason.
I love how you put a heart on Alderheart's chest
11:30
Warriors cats DESPERATELY needs a FULL-ON *HARD* REBOOT
The code only exists so we can have forbidden romance drama.
I feel that the power of medicine cats being able to talk to star clan is the most important part of being a medicine cat which makes their role cruical to the clan but when normal warriors just get dreams from star clan it really takes away the power of medicine cats making them less important
I agree with you soooo much! My favorite characters are:
Squirrelflight
Jayfeather
Shadowsight
Briarlight
Goosefeather
Cinderpelt
Mothwing
Sandstorm
Crowfeather
And of course sassy Yellowfang
Omg this was amazing your art is gorgeous Tennelle ahhhh
Oh my gosh Tenelle, I so agree with you, I am half- hoping the author's can fix their mistakes by lifting certain medicine cat rules, like "medicine cats can't fall in love with anyone or have kits"
Goosefeather is my favorite. He always questions StarClan, which makes it feel like a real religion.
*If your inspired and make no mistakes you’ve come to the right place~ , GIVE TENNELLE THE TIME TO STRAIGHT UP BLOW YOUR MIND with a new show of Drawing A ___!*
Gosh. Why do I love your Alderheart design so much? He is just so cute and huggable! Also that Jayfeather portrait is one of the best drawings I have seen of him. Amazing!
"Medicine cats just dont really socialize with their clanmates"
Ive decided that i want to be a medicine cat.
Leafpool looks amazing her shapes just flow together it great designs
I think at least part of the problem is that StarClan, and therefore medicine cats, are used as exposition dumps for things that the cats would have no other way of knowing and that's why the mystery faded. Hopefully, this arc will change StarClan in some major way like limiting how freely they can give prophecises or removing the cats we see there all the time.
That idea about not having a med cat pov would be great for Shadowsight and his character, but then we would've never had the proper Jayfeather because we wouldn't have seen life in the clans from him.
I like to make stories as well, to sorta tackle these issues. One of my oc’s Hazeeyes is a medicine cat, who has one little issue- he can’t get in contact with Starclan. But, he can sure get in contact with the dark forest. He can’t receive any omens from Starclan, and his clan is in a bit of a pickle due to his situation.
Shape Shifter haha I made a typo. It’s hazeeyes (heys - Eyes is what it sounds like)
Shape Shifter thank you! I may write a story for him on Wattpad.
Shape Shifter I was also thinking of maybe doing a speedpaint on my channel while reading some short stories I already made for him.
Shape Shifter thank you!! It should be out this week.
Woah! The feather behind jay feather is such an amazing touch! 💕
My main medicine cat oc is Owlwing, she was born in ShadowClan and was originally a warrior, but eventually she decided she would rather be a medicine cat. Also she gets more anxious and becomes Goosefeather - y. Her own brother was a villain and killed a few cats, including her mentor. She starts panicking at every small thing and distrusts everyone. She refused to take an apprentice until she started going blind from old age.
This is why I get through the week. Your lovely drawings and amazing personality!
And ur hummmmorrrrrr
I never clicked so fast in my life-
every time I see your art style it gets more pleasing to the eye
You should have included Flametail
My favorite Medicine cat is probably Goosefeather because he is very underrated. And because he had a really hard life and everyone thought he was crazy for it even his sister. He was definitely ripped off when they started writing him as a stupid, crazy, mean cat.
I DESPERATELY want Mothwing's perspective and if Mothwing's Secret is bad I'm going to riot in the streets
Katlyn Criswell
If her secret is that she is in love with a tom I will be so sad. I want the fact that Mothwing was manipulated and practically abused by Hawkfrost to be properly acknowledged and how his actions impacted her lack of faith in StarClan.
Ok so it wasn't BAD but it wasn't good either
I've missed Simmy Speaks... It's nice to have it back. Also my favorite med cat is Yellowfang.... from arc one. Also please stay safe Tennelle!
So great! The softness of Leafpool’s portrait is just 👌
I didn't know who Shadowsight was so I looked him up on the Warriors wiki, one thing led to another and I gotta say... literally WHAT is going on in The Broken Code
omg your art is so goodyou should animate a series! also i love how you drew the backgrounds for each cat. (i loved jayfeather)
She is working on a animated series.. check out the Starclan battles RUclips channel
This video not only made me calm and happy with your drawing but it opened my eyes to the warrior cat fandom a little bit more
I was thinking about it and it seems that people would get upset about not having that Medicine cat POV early on, so my solution to fix this would be to take Mothwing's point of view when she is Barkface's apprentice. People would be satisfied to have a Medicine cat POV, while it wouldn't give away any of Starclan's secrets. Also, it'd be a look into Riverclan life, instead of hopping into Thunderclan again. Yay! Just killed 3 birds with 1 stone.
My favorite medicine cats and overall favorite characters would have to be Alderheart and Shadowpaw. They just give a whole new turn on medicine cats throughout the warrior series. No matter who it is, Alderheart always goes out of his way to make the other cats feel welcome and respected, and Shadowpaw has an incredibly interesting story as far as the new arc goes. I'm very excited o see what happens in the new series!!!!! And I do agree on your statement about how the medicine cat code has flaws. Why can't they have kits? Biases will always me a thing you know. Also, can we just point out how Squirrelflight went ahead and had Alderheart and Sparkpelt after the whole scandal with Leafpool and her kits? I still have mixed feelings about that
They should make an evil medicine cat character. It’s surprising to me that they’ve written so many arcs with so many medicine cats, and yet not one of them has tried to get away with lying about what Starclan tells them to get what they want. Like, maybe they could make a character whose sibling isn’t a medicine cat and wants to be the deputy, so the medicine cat tells the clan leader that Starclan wants the sibling to be the deputy. It’s a perfect opportunity for Erin Hunter.
HorseGirl Forever
They also have access to all the medicine in the clan. They know which plants are dangerous. If it isn’t a well known poison then the other cats will be none the wiser when they’re being taken care of. The medicine cat could injure or sicken cats that may pose a threat to their power.
@@nyabis8044 Yeah. It'd be so easy for them to manipulate their whole clan to gain control, and poison those who disagreed. That should totally happen.
Omg you draw so good!!!!!!! I love your art more than me !!!!! And What is aplication????
That Alderheart design is just so goddamn cute!!!
the one thing i have to say about this is.... fametail. he was shadow'clans medicine cat and he was very close with few of the warriors and was very well taught in fighting skills, i feel like hes an exeption because he was treated welll and not ignored, he also spoke about his visions all the time but his mentour didnt fully trust it, but over all i agree with you tennelle
I can’t stop laughing, I started wheezing when you said, “ Ah yes, I’m sure could all use the of magical healing powers of cats I the wild.” XD
((If you know what I mean))
YOU DREW ALDERHEART SO CHUBBY AND CUTE AND I LOVE IT TOO MUCH
Ooo... maybe we should get some Mothwing chapters in replace of leafpool!!!!! We could get her prospective, and her struggles to get away from Hawkfrost and her lack of belief from Starclan! I think those would be very interesting!!!!!!!
I love the Leafpool perspective. Believe it or not, Leafpool is my favorite character!
Yay! Finally some more warriors content!!
i personally love brambleberry cause she took care of my favorite cat Crookedstar
1:33 notice how she didn’t mention leafpool??
YASSSSS ANOTHER DRAWING A BLANK!!! ( LOVE YOU SO MUCH TENNELLE
My favorite medicine cats include Yellowfang, Barkface, Runningnose and Littlecloud
Tennelle: Imagine not have Jayfeather or Leafpool perspectives that would have been amazing
Lionblaze having more chapters: *Hehehe boi*
I feel like they need a new writer. As a way to start over and get a new point of view.
Or just take a break and think about the new ways the books could go into- I would honestly rather wait a year or two before a new book gets dished out and that being an interesting and different story than have a ton of super editions and new books coming out super fast and them being a stale copy of each other, or at least if nothing else- make a few books happen inside other clans, we only get se's about river clan, shadow clan and wind clan, I just want more rather than occasional fights and occasional cameo from other clans, they have so many interesting characters I want to see more of but they are showed into the background because thunderclan is the best and only clan apparently :/
Ao Tora
I agree
Hfishy Yea, Tui needs to come write these books.
These drawing videos really inspire me to draw my Warrior OCs xD ThAnkS TeNnElLe~
Sorry I’m new here, Uhm I was wondering where do I post my fan art for you? Like, where would be best for you Tennelle?
Pebble Heart, Acorn Fur, basically any medicine cat from Dawn of the Clans. I love Dawn of the Clans, and it's my favorite Warriors arc. The Super Editions are pretty good too though.
What app do you use?
Ilysm btw!!!
Hey jayfeather can I have some of that catmint? I mean it seems to cure everything and the twolegs could REALLY use it right now.
I still would like to know how Leafpool got her colors... like, Firestar is ginger with green eyes and Sandstorm is Pale with green eyes so how did Leafpool get amber eyes and brown, dark brown, and light brown colors....
Nutmeg is brown (Firestars mother) and Princess is brown (Firestars sister). Id reccomend checking out my Firestars Family Tree video as it shows my designs and you can see the colours through the family. (You don't have to, im not trying to self promo im just trying to help. Dont feel like you have it check it out, I don't mind either way)
Instead of Leafpaw from her point of view in The new prophecy we should have gotten Mothwing and her tension with Hawkfrost, her losing faith in starclan, and her connection with Leafpaw plus we can still keep track on whats happening with the clans!
Jayfeather, Alderheart, Shadowsight, Puddleshine, Mothwing, Hawkheart, Yellowfang, Barkfact, Runningnose, Mothwing, Goosefeather, Echosong, MOTHWING-
I miss when StarClan communicated through hard to read signs and omens instead of "oh, here you go, this is what to do". When Fireheart had dreams from StarClan they were almost always mysterious and indirect. Even when Spottedleaf spoke with him it was never straight forward. Of course, it's meant for a young audience, so the prophecies couldnt be too complicated, but it left that mysticism. Now, like you said, there is nothing mysterious about StarClan.
I also agree that medicine cats should interact more with the clan. Doctors and nurses have friends. No one stops being friends with a doctor just because they got their PhD.
The thing about the medicine cat code- They are not to have a family becuase as stated in Mothflight vison(when the Med cat code is created.) They are to not have kits becase you cant worry about your family being in danger when you have to help someone. It could distract the mother/father cat from saving the cat. It's not a dumb code, it's to protect the medicine cats and their clan. Idk I'm sorry qwp
Red Rynx' Wolf
Medicine cats still have parents, siblings, nieces, nephews, grandparents, cousins, friends, etc.
That would still cause bias. They have family and friends, some cats they like more than others. If they can deal with bias with their family and friends, they can deal with bias when it comes to mates or kits.
There are so many ways around this though. Have another queen take care of your kits when you're busy, wait until you have a fully trained apprentice so they can take over for you temporarily. It's very doable.
Not to mention this only really applies to female medicine cats. Male medicine cats won't be out of commission at all from having a family because they're not the ones who give birth so there's really no reason at all to restrict them like that.
Also, like Tennelle said, a medicine cat will always have family to worry about regardless. They still have parents, siblings, nephews/nieces etc but those have never caused any conflict of interest before so why should kits?
Me: Tenelle is making some excellent points heOH MY GOSH ALDERHEART IS SO CUUUUUUUUUUTE-
Gosh I love these designs so much! So cute and epic at the same time. My favorite medicine cats are Jayfeather and Shadowsight (love his name!) I just realized all these medicine cats are related to Firestar.
You mentioned a reboot... and I have to say... that would bE SICK, YOU KNOW HOW AWESOME THAT WOULD BE?? OH MY GOD---
EVERY SINGLE OPINION HERE IS CORRECT AND YOU LOVE TO SEE IT
Also, spoilers for Silent Thaw:
I really hope Shadowsight isn't dead but it'd be REALLY INTERESTING if he was!!!
I can hear the screams from the Cinderpelt fans already...
8:24 Didn’t Shadowsight never even have a StarClan connection?
Tenneleflowers: " My fave med. cats"
Proceeds to name all of them
XD 😂😂
wow you're almost at 1,000,000 subscribers! Good job!