I ended up using my own mixture of the same ingredients. I wasn't willing to wait on canada to ship it to me. I ended up doing a 1/3 ratio of beeswax 1/3 lanolin 1/3 castor oil with 3 or 4 grams of canola oil in a 1 oz . 3 or 4 gram mixture. I ended up adding 10 grams 6 grams of castor and 4 of canola after mixing 1st time and that ended up working fine for me. I think this stuff you got is good as well
Nick Horween also recommends Venetian Shoe cream for waxed flesh. Apparently, any beeswax/conditioner combo will work such as otterwax boot wax, VSC, etc... I used the otterwax on my Turman's java waxed flesh to touch them up. By the way, love your channel, you really helped me to appreciate the practicality and coolness of boots. I am proud to say I am no longer a sneaker guy (used to wear sneakers everyday). You also got me into Grant Stone, Truman's and Parkhurst.
This worked out well. I've looked at a handful of shoes and boots in this leather and I very much like the look when these are somewhere between new to modest wear patina. I've got a large wood lathe, I'm not doing much turning, but I am familiar with using it to buff turned pieces with carnuaba wax. That process allows for a minimal amount of wax for maximum luster. The process generates heat and you can dial the speed in perfectly. I'm curious if that's an option or simply too aggressive.
I have those boots and I prefer the look of non conditioning it , I love the two tone and texture showing .using that bees wax darkened it , and don't like that dark wet look. So I keep mine the way you video showed at the start how it looked.
I'm gonna try oregon trail boot wax for my waxy commander parkhursts. I appreciate that you used your hand over a rag or brush. Makes it penetrate better.
Excellent video, thank you! My pair of Diesel Boot Natural Waxed Commander arrived today, and I immediately watched this video and ordered the beeswax you featured - nice discount code. Stupid question, I own more than a dozen pairs of leather boots...most are smooth leather, but a couple are rugged/resilient (Thursday), and two are Diesel bare-naked suede, but I've never owned a pair of waxed boots before. What, if anything should I do to protect them out of box? My rugged/resilient leather get hit with Saphir waterproof spray, and my suede boots get treated with both Saphir suede conditioner and Saphir waterproof sprays prior to wearing. Should I hit these with the Saphir waterproof spray, or are the Waxed Commander ready to go straight out of the box? Thanks, appreciate your channel. Cheers!
I found a pair of boots that got my attention so I got them. I wear western boots and redwing work boots. Most of my boots are bison, bull or cow. Got some exotics and some roughouts. Never seen western boots in waxy commander leather; I had to do some research to know which type of leather it was. It has a short nap with heavy wax on it. Looks like your boots leather. The box indicated waxy commander snuff and I thought it was the name of the color but it is actually the type of leather and the color is snuff. It is an interesting leather I really like them I just do upkeeps with horse hair brush. I know when outer wax starts to rub off and starts to get on the dry side I will need to treat but I am looking for the right type of wax product. I hope they keep producing them that leather doesn’t seem very popular on the western boot world. With its qualities that is a perfect working boot leather.
I know this video covers re-waxing of the boots but what would you use if you needed to clean them first? Also, what are the black chelsea boots pictured in the lower left when you're sitting at your desk?
Hi, I have just recently got into your channel which is fantastic if your into boots as I am. I have viewed your brass boot videos and today ordered a pair natural waxy commander ( Grant Stone ) boots. They maybe to light in colour on arrival and I make want to darken them somewhat. Would you recommend this beeswax for this purpose? All the best from the UK.
I don’t want to be “that guy” but I kind of liked the way they looked before with the patina. Don’t get me wrong they look great after too. Do you think they will lighten or show the wear again very quickly?
I’m with ya brother I always appreciate a good patina!!! These were the ideal boots to test this stuff on and yes I do believe the wax will wear off with time and we will bring back the original patina !
Love your channel. I have some Dr Martens Wonder Balsam. Ingredients are coconut oil, lanolin and beeswax. Do you think this would work on waxy commander leather? The ingredients seem to be similar to other products out there, at least the lanolin and beeswax.
I think so! Though I don’t have direct experience and coconut oil has the tendency to harden and flake when cold but I’m sure the other oils in the mixture offset this effect
I know that you didn't hit them up, like with a hair dryer or whatnot. I wonder if that's going to do anything different. It says to heat them up before or after using the product...
I have a pair of tan Chelsea boots which I really like. I don't want to ruin the light tan color and the matte look. I like your method but I'm concerned if applying beeswax will darken the light tan permanently. Can you give any suggestions or alternatives?
Really enjoy your channel, so I'm hoping that you actually see this note and are able to respond to my questions. 1. What method would you use for heating up The Right Stuff, if direct sunshine isn't a reliable option? 2.) How many days or weeks of regular wear between conditionings? Thanks!
1) you could scoop some of it into a glass container and heat it up in the microwave and 2) these boots don’t need conditioning often, maybe once every few years
@@DalesLeatherworks Thanks very much for getting back to me on that!! You mentioned that the Right Stuff might only be needed once every few years, so I'm wondering what product you might recommend for more frequent conditioning of waxed flesh. Just FYI, I just bought a pair of Nicks Brown Waxed Flesh Falcons and I'm trying to figure out the best way to take care of them. Bic4, perhaps?
@@ThomasSteed that’s because they are suede which darkens very easily. That being said, if you try it on smooth leather is doesn’t darken anywhere near as much as obenauf’s or mink oil. Even neatsfoot oil make your leather darker.
@@AlexanderMason1 well, maybe I'll have to pick some up for the next pair of more dressed up smooth boots I buy. I'll do some more research, unless you've got some examples or a video demo available on some lighter colors, and veg tan.
I would not use saddle soap or very oily creams. I used saddle soap on mine followed by a boot cream right away, and it gave them a brown tinge and also darkened them some. I’m guessing you’d almost want to use a gentle suede foam cleaner for cleaning, wipe with water/clean towel, and then maybe Bick 4 as it’s supposed to be one of the least darkening conditioners
For storm kudu I would use Bick 4 as it won’t darken the kudu or possibly saphir cuir gras but it will darken the kudu a little bit. I did a video on that recently!
I just picked up a pair of Higgins Mill in waxed suede. Think this would be better, or Renapur? Edit… I mean should I use “The Right Stuff” or Renapur? The latter does have beeswax in it.
For what it's worth, Nick Horween himself uses & recommends Venetian leather balm to re-wax their waxed flesh leathers. I'd give that a shot if you're thinking about it.
Hi sir, will these work on my Truman Java Waxed Flesh? Cause Birchees company just died or something. They are out of stock for a year and do not respond to requests.
Just found this video but this product concerns me. The first ingredient being Canola Oil is the first concern. I wouldn't want to put Canola Oil on my boots as it can go rancid after a time. It just seems to have too little Beeswax in it for my preference and the canola oil as the main ingredient is a poor choice IMO.
Na, straight bee's wax is great these bees wax polymer blends with oils and lanolin etc. Just make it soft, and the other additives make it more permeable and the conditioning agents condition (obviously). The only thing I'd advise is to use heat when using straight bee's wax to get it in there, and a more consistent finish.
Straight beeswax is good but I find it is often very hard which is why I’d recommend a carrier oil to help it spread around more easily. Melting it down and adding a carrier like almond oil or something of the like is what I’d recommend
Is there much difference between waxy commander and horween waxed flesh and the say it ages? I can get waxy commander boots much easier and cheaper in the UK.
There is a huge difference actually between Waxed Flesh and Waxy Commander. Waxy commander is more Wax whereas the Waxed Flesh is more oily. they will patina differently as well, Waxed Flesh is more of a scuff off whereas Waxy Commander is more of a Waxed roughout
Thanks for this. I've just gotten a pair of waxed roughout boots (RW 2955 Blacksmith in Spitfire) and have another pair ordered (Nick's Urban Logger in brown waxed flesh). I like how your Grant Stone's turned out. How would you compare this treatment with the Birchee's you reviewed previoulsy? ruclips.net/video/-Oy-BYtHQV8/видео.html
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I ended up using my own mixture of the same ingredients. I wasn't willing to wait on canada to ship it to me. I ended up doing a 1/3 ratio of beeswax 1/3 lanolin 1/3 castor oil with 3 or 4 grams of canola oil in a 1 oz . 3 or 4 gram mixture. I ended up adding 10 grams 6 grams of castor and 4 of canola after mixing 1st time and that ended up working fine for me. I think this stuff you got is good as well
I am consistently amazed at how much I learn on your channel! So good mate!
hi mister fancy seeing you here
Will probably have to pick some of this up since the Birchees company no longer seems to be in business.
Nick Horween also recommends Venetian Shoe cream for waxed flesh. Apparently, any beeswax/conditioner combo will work such as otterwax boot wax, VSC, etc... I used the otterwax on my Turman's java waxed flesh to touch them up. By the way, love your channel, you really helped me to appreciate the practicality and coolness of boots. I am proud to say I am no longer a sneaker guy (used to wear sneakers everyday). You also got me into Grant Stone, Truman's and Parkhurst.
Great tip!
RM Williams bees wax base conditioner is incredible and I have had great success with it on rambler and roughout leather.
The fact that its great for your hands is a nice bonus
This worked out well. I've looked at a handful of shoes and boots in this leather and I very much like the look when these are somewhere between new to modest wear patina.
I've got a large wood lathe, I'm not doing much turning, but I am familiar with using it to buff turned pieces with carnuaba wax. That process allows for a minimal amount of wax for maximum luster. The process generates heat and you can dial the speed in perfectly. I'm curious if that's an option or simply too aggressive.
I have those boots and I prefer the look of non conditioning it , I love the two tone and texture showing .using that bees wax darkened it , and don't like that dark wet look. So I keep mine the way you video showed at the start how it looked.
look up nicks video of them conditioning their waxed boots. they used just bees wax this product looks more liquid than just bees wax.
id love to see an update video on these boots now
I'm gonna try oregon trail boot wax for my waxy commander parkhursts. I appreciate that you used your hand over a rag or brush. Makes it penetrate better.
It really does!
Product looks like it worked perfectly….and maybe I’m crazy here, but I kinda liked the way they looked better. Before…
Hey Dale, do you recommend using this product on Alden’s reverse tobacco chamois as well?
I'm watching this after applying middle brown Saphir oiled leather cream on my Clarks beeswax deserts... Too late, I just hope they turn out well
Hey I really like the laces that you have on these. May I know where you got them from? Thanks!
Excellent video, thank you! My pair of Diesel Boot Natural Waxed Commander arrived today, and I immediately watched this video and ordered the beeswax you featured - nice discount code.
Stupid question, I own more than a dozen pairs of leather boots...most are smooth leather, but a couple are rugged/resilient (Thursday), and two are Diesel bare-naked suede, but I've never owned a pair of waxed boots before. What, if anything should I do to protect them out of box?
My rugged/resilient leather get hit with Saphir waterproof spray, and my suede boots get treated with both Saphir suede conditioner and Saphir waterproof sprays prior to wearing. Should I hit these with the Saphir waterproof spray, or are the Waxed Commander ready to go straight out of the box?
Thanks, appreciate your channel. Cheers!
I found a pair of boots that got my attention so I got them. I wear western boots and redwing work boots. Most of my boots are bison, bull or cow. Got some exotics and some roughouts. Never seen western boots in waxy commander leather; I had to do some research to know which type of leather it was. It has a short nap with heavy wax on it. Looks like your boots leather. The box indicated waxy commander snuff and I thought it was the name of the color but it is actually the type of leather and the color is snuff. It is an interesting leather I really like them I just do upkeeps with horse hair brush. I know when outer wax starts to rub off and starts to get on the dry side I will need to treat but I am looking for the right type of wax product. I hope they keep producing them that leather doesn’t seem very popular on the western boot world. With its qualities that is a perfect working boot leather.
Can you wear this type of boot in snow and slush without them getting damaged?
Whats best to condition CF Stead Rambler leather and Mohawk Leather? Would Saphir Renovateur work or something like Otter Wax Leather Salve?
I just got these and man they are a beauty, my first pair of boots too ^^
Cheers Dale some interesting info! All the best 💚
I know this video covers re-waxing of the boots but what would you use if you needed to clean them first? Also, what are the black chelsea boots pictured in the lower left when you're sitting at your desk?
Doesn't Andres at Bordon recommend beeswax for all his boots, including smooth side leather?
This stuff is sold out. Is it coming back? Looking to rewax my GS Edwards.
Nice song, beautiful boot
Funny enough, I make my own leather conditioner using exactly beeswax and castor oil and the only thing I don't use it on is suede
Lovely job, man.
proud fellow Albertan!
What a beautiful results!!
Hi, I have just recently got into your channel which is fantastic if your into boots as I am. I have viewed your brass boot videos and today ordered a pair natural waxy commander ( Grant Stone ) boots. They maybe to light in colour on arrival and I make want to darken them somewhat. Would you recommend this beeswax for this purpose? All the best from the UK.
I don’t want to be “that guy” but I kind of liked the way they looked before with the patina. Don’t get me wrong they look great after too. Do you think they will lighten or show the wear again very quickly?
Fair enough
I’m with ya brother I always appreciate a good patina!!! These were the ideal boots to test this stuff on and yes I do believe the wax will wear off with time and we will bring back the original patina !
The waxy commander Grant Stone uses starts showing wear very quickly out of the box, should be similar with a re-wax.
Love your channel. I have some Dr Martens Wonder Balsam. Ingredients are coconut oil, lanolin and beeswax. Do you think this would work on waxy commander leather? The ingredients seem to be similar to other products out there, at least the lanolin and beeswax.
I think so! Though I don’t have direct experience and coconut oil has the tendency to harden and flake when cold but I’m sure the other oils in the mixture offset this effect
I know that you didn't hit them up, like with a hair dryer or whatnot. I wonder if that's going to do anything different. It says to heat them up before or after using the product...
I have a pair of tan Chelsea boots which I really like. I don't want to ruin the light tan color and the matte look.
I like your method but I'm concerned if applying beeswax will darken the light tan permanently. Can you give any suggestions or alternatives?
Are they a suede or roughout? I’d use tarrago nano spray suede protector
@@DalesLeatherworks Thanks will check out.. yes they are suede.
Tarrago? Is it non wax hydrophobic spray type.. maybe silicone based?
Just received my Truman Nortons in black waxed flesh. Would you recommend this product or something else to restore the black color down the road?
Can you use this on Thursday Loggers in Cacao?
could this be used on suede? yes I know it "ruins" the look, but I want the waxed look.
You certainly can use it on suede! Would turn in into a Waxed Flesh look
@@DalesLeatherworks Don't see to able to get that stuff in the UK, but have found Hanwag Shoe Wax is just beeswax, carnauba wax and lanolin
Mine aren’t there yet but will consider rewaxing my Java’s. What laces do you have on those Grant Stones?
Yes use this on Java waxed flesh!! The laces are Truman cotton corded laces!
What song is that? I went through all the comments and description and it wasn't mentioned:(
That’s by my buddy Schlomo Franklin he’s on Instagram!
Hey Dale! Could you put Mink oil on these?
Really enjoy your channel, so I'm hoping that you actually see this note and are able to respond to my questions.
1. What method would you use for heating up The Right Stuff, if direct sunshine isn't a reliable option?
2.) How many days or weeks of regular wear between conditionings?
Thanks!
1) you could scoop some of it into a glass container and heat it up in the microwave and 2) these boots don’t need conditioning often, maybe once every few years
@@DalesLeatherworks Thanks very much for getting back to me on that!! You mentioned that the Right Stuff might only be needed once every few years, so I'm wondering what product you might recommend for more frequent conditioning of waxed flesh. Just FYI, I just bought a pair of Nicks Brown Waxed Flesh Falcons and I'm trying to figure out the best way to take care of them. Bic4, perhaps?
You can actually use this on regular smooth leather as well no problem.
Would you recommend this on the Thursday Cavalier in Shadow Gray?
They have a weather safe suede so I am not sure if they meant that its wax treated?
It’s probably heavily waxed already to protect them from the elements
Was your instep tight on this boot? Mine is pretty uncomfortable
Appears to be very similar to Obenauf's heavy LP. It should work on most leathers great, but it will darken just about everything except black😂.
it definitely is nothing like obenauf’s heavy LP. It doesn’t darken anywhere near as much. Not even close.
@@AlexanderMason1well those boots look quite a bit darker from start to finish.
@@ThomasSteed that’s because they are suede which darkens very easily. That being said, if you try it on smooth leather is doesn’t darken anywhere near as much as obenauf’s or mink oil. Even neatsfoot oil make your leather darker.
@@AlexanderMason1 well, maybe I'll have to pick some up for the next pair of more dressed up smooth boots I buy. I'll do some more research, unless you've got some examples or a video demo available on some lighter colors, and veg tan.
@@ThomasSteed did you ever pick any of those up or use that LP?
What would you use on the GS Kudu Storm?
I would not use saddle soap or very oily creams. I used saddle soap on mine followed by a boot cream right away, and it gave them a brown tinge and also darkened them some. I’m guessing you’d almost want to use a gentle suede foam cleaner for cleaning, wipe with water/clean towel, and then maybe Bick 4 as it’s supposed to be one of the least darkening conditioners
For storm kudu I would use Bick 4 as it won’t darken the kudu or possibly saphir cuir gras but it will darken the kudu a little bit. I did a video on that recently!
Hey Dale, what do you use to condition your Truman Rambler boots?
Would you use this on rambler leather? Or is Venetian Shoe Cream and Saphir Reno the way to go for rambler leather?
This would darken rambler a lot, I wouldn’t
thanks Dale, what would you use on Rambler?@@DalesLeatherworks
I just picked up a pair of Higgins Mill in waxed suede. Think this would be better, or Renapur? Edit… I mean should I use “The Right Stuff” or Renapur? The latter does have beeswax in it.
Both will do different things, the right stuff is more of a wax to restore the outer wax surface whereas renovateur is going to condition the leather
Just ordered the Truman Java Waxed boots and looking for any care tips and rewaxing suggestions down the road. Would you use this as well for those ?
I would!
For what it's worth, Nick Horween himself uses & recommends Venetian leather balm to re-wax their waxed flesh leathers. I'd give that a shot if you're thinking about it.
Do the boots come with those Kevlar looking laces or did you have to buy them separately?
Those are Truman laces!
They look great after the re-wax. How does this result compare to the Birchees on waxed flesh according to your experience?
The Birchees is a dark pitch which will darken the boots compared to the right stuff is not pigmented
@@DalesLeatherworks Thank you for sharing.
Did you clean them before applying the wax product? If yes, what product did you use for the waxed leather? Thanks
The video is literally the answer
Hi sir, will these work on my Truman Java Waxed Flesh? Cause Birchees company just died or something. They are out of stock for a year and do not respond to requests.
Yes they may be out of operation at the moment but I’ll try to get answers
Just found this video but this product concerns me. The first ingredient being Canola Oil is the first concern. I wouldn't want to put Canola Oil on my boots as it can go rancid after a time. It just seems to have too little Beeswax in it for my preference and the canola oil as the main ingredient is a poor choice IMO.
I just used straight up bees wax to wax my 1964 brown rough out moc toes. Should I have done something different?
Na, straight bee's wax is great these bees wax polymer blends with oils and lanolin etc. Just make it soft, and the other additives make it more permeable and the conditioning agents condition (obviously). The only thing I'd advise is to use heat when using straight bee's wax to get it in there, and a more consistent finish.
Straight beeswax is good but I find it is often very hard which is why I’d recommend a carrier oil to help it spread around more easily. Melting it down and adding a carrier like almond oil or something of the like is what I’d recommend
Is there much difference between waxy commander and horween waxed flesh and the say it ages? I can get waxy commander boots much easier and cheaper in the UK.
There is a huge difference actually between Waxed Flesh and Waxy Commander. Waxy commander is more Wax whereas the Waxed Flesh is more oily. they will patina differently as well, Waxed Flesh is more of a scuff off whereas Waxy Commander is more of a Waxed roughout
Are the waxy commander leathers suede or rough out?
Sort of both! It’s a shrunken micro suede, heavily waxed
Won’t vegetable oils like canola turn rancid? It’s the top ingredient.
Probably depends on the quality of the canola oil
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Would you use this on a coach rambler? I don’t want them to turn into rough out looking.
I would not use this on rambler as it will darken it considerably!
@@DalesLeatherworks what would you recommend to keep coach ramblers from turning into rough out?
Is that safe for your face?
Yes!
Are they out of business ?
No
@@DalesLeatherworks product not available is what I get with the link.
@@DalesLeatherworks could we get a new link please . The old one doesn’t seem to be working .
Thanks for this. I've just gotten a pair of waxed roughout boots (RW 2955 Blacksmith in Spitfire) and have another pair ordered (Nick's Urban Logger in brown waxed flesh). I like how your Grant Stone's turned out. How would you compare this treatment with the Birchee's you reviewed previoulsy? ruclips.net/video/-Oy-BYtHQV8/видео.html
The Birchees will darken your boots whereas the right stuff doesn’t contain pigments so it will condition without darkening
Yeah I hate that stigma against men doing self care of any kind lol
“Is that…moisturizer?? Are you with the gays?”
I ordered the "right stuff" but was also wondering about Birchees. Any idea if that will be available again?
I hope it will soon!