A simple like in this video would help this channel out alot!👍🏻 And watch the Kpop contract reading video i did ruclips.net/video/EZlV2hxsRaU/видео.html
I've heard this song on the radio and had no clue this was a kpop group until your video😂. Think im so surprised is bc its you have to be like BTS level to make it to our (U.S) mainstream airwaves and that they're not BTS level and still did it is remarkable. I'm sure it helps big time that there's an English version.
Being a Kpop idol isn't as glamorous as other people expect it to be like. They have to undergo long periods of time perfecting their singing, dancing, and overall stage presence and engagement with fans all around the world. We appreciate your insights, Grazy. We learn so much from you. We wish you further success along the way.
1. Attrakt are suing Givers as an external force and in the initial documents they found evidence that Givers forged documents and tried to embezzle money and have added embezzlement to their lawsuit. 2. Givers tried to negotiate with Warner Music Korea without Attrakt knowledge. 3. Givers removed the composers from the copyright and transferred it to SIAHN producer directly and lied to the CEO. 4. Givers convinced the group that the CEO wasn't looking after their health despite evidence that the CEO was the one who suggested they take a break and that it was SIAHN was the one who wanted Aran to go back to work. 5. Givers haven't allowed any of the parties to talk to each other directly making it easy for them to scam everyone. Attrakt, Warner Music Korea, the Cupid composers and the Group only talked through the Givers. Now it is going through legal proceedings, I think once all the parties actually get to start talking to each other directly, they will all realise who the real bad guys are.
Now with all this coming to light, how do people expect the girls to stay with such an incompetent CEO?????? Doesn’t matter if he’s a nice person he’s still terrible as a CEO. The girls jumped ship early to avoid sinking with him because he clearly doesn’t know what’s going on and blindly trusting random people….. he is a victim in terms of other companies but the girls are also victims of his incompetency.
@@LightLifeList what you mentioned doesn’t necessarily negate what i said either. I agree there are tons of missing information that have yet to be revealed but from the information that we got before, the girls had no contact with the CEO (i agree that they should have made more effort to contact him directly) but we never really know what SIAHN has told them about the CEO or how far he went to prevent their contact. There’s clearly been a lot of manipulation of both the CEO and the girls. The CEO has every right to sue SIAHN’s a** and the girls also have the full right to terminate their contracts due to this whole mess regardless whether they were told “lies” by SIAHN or were manipulated. End of the day, CEO is still very incompetent as a CEO but appears to be a very kind person who’s easily taken advantage off unfortunately.
I just don’t like how the girls are painted as backstabbers when they could also have been manipulated just like how the public is sympathizing with the CEO due to him being manipulated….
I feel sad for the CEO. He paid for the song "Cupid" but the producer cheated him of the music rights. He is well known for being a good CEO in the industry. Many artists who were under him came out to speak for him, which is something rare. Hope he gets his justice. Update : I saw many people talking about the financial statements, 2 million expenses. The proof of expenses was already submitted to the court. And court decision was already made that he was innocent.
But it’s weird because there’s been artist who talked about going through the same thing with him as 50-50. Honestly the whole entire thing is sketchy I don’t think either party is completely innocent
I am not completely sure if this is 100% correct but i read some things regarding the ceos other company. This from what I heard so im not completely sure if this is 100% correct so if this turns out to be wrong i’m sorry 😭!!! so bare with me! My english isnt good so im sorry!!! the girls asked for financial statements as there right. Members in groups wont be payed early on but i think they were talking about lack of transparency of financial statements that would be for future.The statements shows 0 income because all moneys went to Dtar Crew Entertainment,which JHJ is also the CEO of. This is done to pay off loan to Interpark who gave 9 billion moneys to Starcrew. A debt starcrew is repaying with profits from attrackt and fifty fifty. i am not completely sure, but I think a boygroup named Hot Shot was under that company. This means that they are at a consistent negative in comaony profits for a loan to a company they not part of without there knowledge. i think loan was peocessed 2 years ago and the cro admits he paid 6 billion moneys for the girls debut, but where is the other 3 million, maybe Starcrew. The excess funds show that he not sell his car or rolex, this may be a story to gain public sympathy. Members would be in debt form an external loan for finances they are unsure whether they are being used personally by ceo or if apartment is just going to wrack up more debt for them, somr people have compared this method to BBC to LOONA. I also know they claimed they were being taken care of or there physical and mental health wzsnt being aknowledged, especially arans foot injury which led to surgery. I think they are also suing for lack of promotion and schedule as well. Gil Hak-mi was previously under Oscar entertainment that was owned by the ceo and has come out in support for the girls saying “My poor girls, I also wanted yo, so i understand your feelings. People dont know unless there involved”.
if what the Attrakt CEO does turn out to be true then i really feel for him, he put so much into the girls, sacrificed and gambled so much of his own life for them.
there is no winner here. no matter who wins the law suit, fifty fifty career is over. they are labelled as back stabber in Korea and there is no coming back from this in Korea. Givers has history stealing an artist name 손승연 the same way. she is on the spot light again because of fifty fifty incident.
@@divx1001 It is over. Most Kpop producers made it clear that they will not provide songs for 50 50 anymore, (fyi, Kpop producers mostly do not take sides between the company and singers, but now they all support the CEO so you know how much 50 50 has messed up). Most of he Kpop fans turn their backs on 50 50 too, (mostly they will support the artist but this time most of them support the CEO too). So it is over for them for sure....
Good. They are backstabbers and national traitors for singing in english anyways. Plus why would you bite the hand that feeds you because someone has said you'll get more money? Greed. They don't deserve a career. Good riddance. I hope they fade back to obscurity as quick as they rose to fame.
The newest is that only one of the girls got redeemed and will get knetz support. Keena returned to the company and apologized and dropped her lawsuit.@@hcygd5695
Based on the list of cancelled promotion due to this lawsuit, all of them seem very high profile. So I don’t understand why there is a sense that they weren’t promoted enough? The issue with making it big so fast is that everything else is still catching up. But it can feel like they are not moving fast enough. When in reality things can only move so fast in the real world. It is very different from going viral.
The girls have actually been on quite a few variety shows for promotion even before they shot to fame, and the best part is that they're all properly subtitled in English. This is pretty rare for Korean groups in my experience unless you're a big shot. Looks to me like the company had really invested in them.. So sad about the girls deciding to do this. Regardless of outcome it looks like their reputation is gone, and it's just way too early in their careers to do this.
Personally I think they should wait for their fan base to get stronger first before leaving/suing the company. Like how kara, jyj, jessica, Hyuna and 2ne1 situation. They are still able to be active in the industry due to their strong fanbase. This is a very risky move from them cause they are still rookie.
Dont even mention other idols. company ceo invested huge amount of money over fifty fifty even in debt and they lawsuit to monopolize things instantly as soon as they gain fame. Its really unusual event and noone support them (including public to people in kpop industry) at least not in Korea
@@user-pl2bp3zr7jbffr if u want to debut they would have to train for years, dieting and being exhausted, why would they decide to ruin their career after one hit song and not try to strive thru, there is obv more reason why they did what they did, as a kpop stan u always have to stay neutral and hear both sides of the story bc we cant js side w one person bc we werent there to see it firsthand
As a casual fan of Fifty, I'm just leaving this to the pertinent courts to judge. Their appreciation of evidence is paramount in determining just cause. We do not know the whole story. I repeat, we do not know the whole story. It is prudent that we wait it out and see who wins the case. Then we can decide what to make of this better.
This was very insightful and helpful to hear given that you have gone through similar situations yourself! I really appreciate your straightforward approach and not being someone who speculates
I've looked at several Fifty Fifty videos from start to finish and this is the first unbiased video that talks about the allegations, but leaves the truth and judgement to the courts. Well done Grace. First time I've seen any of your videos. Good job with the makeup.
Right to the both language names are applied by the agency (English name)and members family(Korean name). That does not mean rights are granted. Agency applied the English name about a month ahead of members. Also internationally. Most likely members application won’t be granted.
Everyone on AllKpop should see this video....even if some did, with your great explanation, they prolly still have a made up mind about sending the girls to the guillotine! Good stuff Grace as usual....hwaiting!
Koreans think that the 50/50's claim about mistreatment is a petty excuse for the buyout and I agree. 1. The members had the most pristine housing conditions for a rookie group at a small label. The CEO paid $2500/month for their 3BR 3Bath apartment in Gangnam, which is super luxurious in Korea. They had top-tier lessons and English education which are all very privileged. 2. The members were on a break for the last few months because of one of the members' surgery. So it doesn't align with their claims about how the CEO allegedly "forced" them to work despite health conditions. IK It's bad to compare but idols like BP, Le sserafim, and many others have way harsher schedules than them. 3. So far, from the courtroom, all of their claims about financing were ruled out as a misunderstanding. 4. The main income for K-pop artists come from album sales, concerts, gigs, and brand deals. 50/50 hasn't done a lot of these but they had a lot of these lined up for them if they had just waited (like the Barbie deal). 5. 50/50 did well in the streaming department, but that isn't very lucrative for business. Again, if they were patient and actually did the activities mentioned in 4 (which were already scheduled for them), they would've actually broke even and get paid. I know that a lot of these claims didn't come from the 50/50 members. I'm pretty sure they were manipulated by The Givers producer and their parents. But they're not that innocent like what many of the international fans are saying.
It is sad to see how greedy they are and how many lies they have told to gain benefits. Really sorry to see how they exposed the ugliest sides of them. The producer and the members along with their parents should be boycotted forever from the industry. Just choose another 4 members and I don't think the end result will be different.
I agree with this and also hate to compare but many of the groups we view as "BIG" now such as Seventeen and BTS were living in poorer situations and took awhile to get paid even after their songs became "viral" or "mainstream". Sure their situation may be different because they also take part in producing their own music but even SM groups who are always a hit in Korea don't get paid right away /: TikTok is a GREAT new avenue for new artists but unfortunately one or two viral/hit songs does not guarantee continued success. We can see this from the failed promotions of MOMOLAND who deserved more, same for GFRIEND who got shaded so hard by SOURCE MUSIC (and I adore Le Sserafim). Greed is wild though, I honestly wouldn't have heard of FIFTY FIFTY if their song CUPID wasn't shoved in my face on every platform and I don't even use TikTok.
@@hello_sundayes, I wouldn’t say that rookie idols should live in not-so-good environment to humble them but seems it’s better method than to just spoon-fed everything to them from start and let them get ahead of themselves when they just start their careers. 5050 environment (dorm) is way better than most rookie idols out there, unless you are from big companies. Like you said, I’ve heard many successful senior idols telling their struggle in the past, like how they live under the basement, or they live with cockroaches, or they share one small room with multiple members. Those were hard times but now that they’re telling them like fond memories that drove them to work harder. 5050 members should believe in what they see and experience with their own eyes more than listening to the bad adults around them. Did no one question is it okay to sue their company like this when they’re treated nicely? Were there no trust between the members and company at all that they couldn’t talk and work this problem without bringing to the court? I mean I would’ve trusted them more if their dorm are like shit. But now we haven’t seen evidence on how they could’ve been treated badly by their company yet. If anything, like previous comment said they should’ve stayed neutral and just let GIVERS vs ATTRAKT fight, but unfortunately they already sided with GIVERS pretty early on. IMO GIVERS’ Ahn Sung-Il is the mastermind behind manipulation of the girls, the parents, the CEO, external potential investor, and maybe even the original producer of the song
Just to play devil's advocate: 1) The housing conditions for a rookie girl group are actually a red flag to me that actually DOES indicate mismanagement of funds. If they're from a small company and the CEO is literally paying THAT MUCH to put 4 girls in a luxurious apartment, why the hell were they placed in there in the first place? That sounds like unnecessary costs being added on to an already expensive debut. The CEO is then guilty of trying to "live above his means". People trying to claim the members have no right to complain while living in a place like that, but all I can think of "How the hell did the CEO intend to maintain giving the girls all that if Cupid never went viral? There's no way he would have been able to continue affording it." 2) You literally don't know if/when the member was injured and also comparing it to another group saying "they have it worse that 50/50 but still promote" doesn't change the fact that the injured member could've been injured for months prior? We don't know when she got injured, we just know when she requested to take time off for surgery. 3) Misunderstanding could be related to what Grace said, someone else was whispering in the girl's ears trying to get them to believe something that wasn't true. I highly doubt a group of teenagers are going to understand the depths of the music industry enough to actually plan this whole thing out maliciously to backstab their CEO. 4) We don't know what their contract states about distribution of funds, not every company has the same plan. 5) Not necessarily if the CEO was spending so much money on giving them a "top girl group" experience. If he's ripping money out of his mother's bank account and selling the clothes off hiss back it means he's ALREADY spent more money than he has available. Those girls would be in debt forever. To me it's similar to Loona where their company spent millions and millions on their pre-debut project which meant that Loona would literally never break even unless they reached Twice, Blackpink, or BTS levels of success. (Speaking in terms of specifically when Loona was first debuting, before we knew anything else about how shady BBC was because remember back then how much fans were praising BBC for giving the girls such a unique pre-debut.)
This has been something I’ve always been so curious about and I can tell just from the things you’ve talked about how difficult things were for you during your legal battles. Thank you for explaining this situation and sharing more about your story grace ❤
If they didn't want to work with their agency anymore they should've come up with a better alternative like discussion and coming to agreement with the agency rather than carelessly filing a lawsuit. The agency is one of main reasons behind their success and the investment made on them was enormous compared to the size of the agency. Who would compensate those investments?? Never let your greed influence your decision or you'll face consequences and these girls are facing it now
i think the givers ceo may have a role in the girls decision, his decisions show he’s not a good person in this case. but i don’t think the attrakt ceo is a good person in this situation either as he has fake news out there that’s boosting his reputation while ruining 5050’s image and he had several companies before. it doesn’t help that people talking about the attrakt ceo’s past are getting doxxed in korea. i think the girls got stuck in both of the ceos’ mess and got influenced by one side. they’re so young too and they’re probably closer to one ceo than the other. its also hard to understand this situation because we only really know of 1 side while the other is mostly silent. there is most likely a lot the public doesn’t know about this situation.
@@ankito-090Their profit was about 6-7 billion won, according Korean Sports and Culture Apartment. But the profit that appeared in Attrak’s report is 0 won.
@@ankito-090That song went hugely viral! They probably did earn a lot of revenue from streams over and over and over again so I wouldn't be surprised.
The Givers were hired by Attract. Therefore they should not own anything about Fity Fifty. But the Giver steal the rights behind Attract by registering Ffty Fifty as theirs. Attract had no idea the givers are working on these things with the girls behind him. The girls are not that innocent. They knew they were betraying the CEO of Attract. Their parents were involved, too. Koreans don’t want these kind of ungrateful people to succeed.
Let me clear up why Fifty Fifty is being criticized by Koreans. 1. They've just debuted, and they've already asked for a settlement. Three million dollars. CEO Jeon Hong-joon planned to pay off the debt incurred in training Fifty Fifty first with profits, and then settle it accurately, but suddenly they sued CEO Jeon Hong-joon. 2. CEO Jeon Hong-joon provided welfare and education at the level of a large agency to raise the children even by selling his belongings and family belongings. But I betrayed CEO Jeon Hong-joon's efforts. 3. CEO Ahn Sung-il has long been notorious for lying a lot and stealing artists from other agencies. And it's becoming more controversial because of this incident. 4. CEO Ahn Sung-il continues to commit all kinds of misdeeds to somehow ruin CEO Jeon Hong-joon by mobilizing the parents of the Fifty Fifty members. Because of this, other celebrities, producers, and agencies are all angry. 5. Fifty Fifty's parents independently registered the trademark rights of Fifty Fifty without consulting the agency. The agency used tens of millions of dollars to steal the group that debuted. 6. CEO Ahn Sung-il registered all the copyrights as his own without asking the Swedish composer who wrote the title song "Cupid." He even stole a song from a Swedish composer. 7. CEO Ahn Sung-il even attempted to destroy evidence to cover up everything with CEO Jeon Hong-joon's crime. Fortunately, all the evidence has been preserved and restored, but they are still trying to destroy it. 8. The relatives of CEO Ahn Sung-il and professional trainers and producers who participated in the Fifty Fifty management persuaded Fifty Fifty to apologize to CEO Jeon Hong-joon and start over. But they completely ignored it. 9. They even filed a criminal complaint against CEO Jeon Hong-joon for breach of trust when the negotiations broke down and it was likely to become increasingly unfavorable. I don't think it's a civil suit anymore, so I was trying to make a crime. 10. Fifty Fifty claimed that CEO Jeon Hong-joon announced their illness without consent and that he sexually harassed them. But then they actually signed a contract with an agency that produces sexy adult movies. Why did the girls, who were angry that the CEO committed sexual harassment, sign a contract with an agency that produces racy adult films? Doesn't that odd? 11. CEO Ahn Sung-il won his own contract with Warner Bros. Music Group without notifying CEO Jeon Hong-joon. And I kept hiding it from CEO Jeon Hong-joon. He was trying to monopolize the overseas expansion through Warner Bros. 12. Fifty Fifty's parents gave back money to a producer of a current affairs culture program on SBS, one of Korea's leading terrestrial broadcasters, and unconditionally made biased reports in favor of Fifty Fifty. Viewers were very angry that SBS mocked viewers through biased reports. So the SBS homepage was paralyzed for 6 hours. There are many other controversies and misdeeds, but there are 11 things I can sort out. If you need more, I will organize it again and reply to you later.
"They filed a biased report" brother, just because you don't like the facts doesn't mean it's biased. You are making a martyr out of a CEO who had no interest in giving those kids a fair shot. Also, use your brain for once: what does he win by keeping the group? He should cut his losses and let them go.
12 isn't even that surprising, companies themselves do it, but then instead of it being considered bribery it's just called "networking". Hell even politicians do it. Fifty Fifty and their music seems like the least harmful thing a corrupt reporter/broadcaster could be promoting.
Ngl, I see potential in the 2 vocals of the group but not the rappers and I feel that Cupid might be a 1 hit wonder for them even if they leave their company for some reason.. I think they filed for the lawsuit way too early, like they debuted around 9 months ago and their company they're complaining about managed to give them a huge song, like the English version of Cupid is in my opinion better than all English songs released by all other K-pop groups combined, even better than my favorites.. You gotta put yourself in their CEO shoes.. This is a huge slap on the face to him considering the huge amount of money he invested in them Regarding the lack of promotions and ads for them, I think this is the case for most of the groups coming from small companies.. I think broadcasting companies don't really prefer them.. Like look at how successful ATEEZ is.. They're selling millions of albums and performing on big stages, yet they don't appear on lots of variety shows nor have that many ads they appear on, especially during their rookie days.. Can we say their agency, KQ Entertainment, is bad for that?? As an Atiny, I think KQ is great because it managed them so well and gave them such good production team to make their songs and helped improving the members skills.. Similarly, I don't think we've seen enough shortage or lacking from Attrakt to blame them.. This only would damage the girls of Fifty Fifty as they appear greedy and backstabbers
For the record, when you're talking about the thingy that suspends your contract while the lawsuit is ongoing, that's called an "injunction" in English.
Finally someone explains in English the unfortunate event comprehensively. Please keep updating us as the event unfolds. What a total waste of once in a life time opportunity to everyone involved. No winners here.
Been a Kpop fan since late first generation… I have seen lots of bad things happen to artists over the years… yet so many netizens still love to attack artists… so many idols have hurt themselves, or worse… look what happened to Soojin from G-Idle… it’s just so disgusting watching people enjoy spreading hate…
A writer who made many articles against Soojin and spread false information to many people is actually now writing false articles about the fifty fifty members as well :(
Ah ok, So just defending your Idols as If they're some kind of Invulnerable, Untouchable, Spiritual godlike existence whatever they do Is the best option to support them? Let's just left behind those case, Are you gonna prove perfectly that Fifty Fifty and The Givers Didn't make their hand dirty just because some ignorant people spread the false Information of G-Idle or something?
@@Imsobloodylit Oh don’t be so dense. I am not saying anything about idols being higher than any person… I just don’t understand why people want to destroy other people. Toxic people are out there spreading misinformation and lies about this story. No one really knows what’s the truth about this or what is going on behind the scenes. My point about Soojin is one example of many. How many people have hurt themselves or committed suicide because of bullying and abuse? Even artists like IU has songs about it You seem to want to believe that Fifty Fifty are guilty of the gossip that was put out by the CEO and others, but you don’t want to wait for the truth to come out? Makes no sense… Plus now the CEO has again changed his story and he now says that the girls are innocent. I think it’s disgusting that people have been saying such hateful stuff about four young girls that they don’t know… yet they still want to destroy their lives? It’s sad and disgusting… and if you feel that way, then there’s something wrong with you as well.
@@Imsobloodylit damn bro it’s not that deep😭 i was just pointing out that this dude is always on female idols asses and never does the same thing to male idols that’s it omg 💀over here writing paragraph after paragraph over kpop 😭
Unfortunately, this issue is now being dealt with very seriously in Korea, The Korean Celebrity Association is also supporting the agency I hope that both sides will be settled amicably
Members family stated that they will meet the agency under terms of separation only. Not going to meet agency under any other conditions. Sorry most contents are in Korean. Search term would be “피프티피프티 논란”
Thank you for explaining this. Tbh it felt weird, after their success, they not appear in a lot of show. Their RUclips also dont have that much update. Maybe there are something behind the scene. We just need to be patient and Wait until everything settle in the court.
I am glad i support all kpop idols and didn't jump in an instant in the FIFTY FIFTY hate bandwagon. Everytime there's a backlash against somebody it always backfires on the fans and online community.
Actually at first nobody hate them until the phone call evidences came up. The actual hate band wagon is with the CEO bc there’s no evidence at all about how he mistreated the girls (the evidence even said otherwise)
Their company got them a Samsung ad lined up, Barbie OST, I don’t think that’s no schedules… also u missed the fact that the producer guy actually put the Cupid song under his own name at KOMCA and not under the song writer’s names, that means that all the proceeds from the success of that songs went 100% to that fraudster producer, he is definitely shady AF. Also, which company films 4 MVs for a comeback? I mean not even the big4 company invests that much in their artists, u Can’t really say that the company didn’t try to promote them tho….
thanks for the breakdown! it was interesting to hear what it’s like in a chill yet detailed manner - since it’s easy to not know the gray areas and perspectives as a lot of the public is not directly exposed to the industry and blindly choose sides. hope u do more of videos like these in the future ! :)
Tbh I really loved fifty fifty when they first debuted and I was really happy when they went viral and honestly after hearing all these rumors idk what to believe anymore, anyway im glad you are uploading 😭
@@yuh8946That would explain a lot… Soojin should have sued him… I still miss her, for some reason I haven’t been able to get into G-Idle after she left… they seemed to change their style of music a bit… I am glad they are doing well and continuing to improve their popularity, but I still feel bad for Soojin.
Look at the trial results. The law sided with the representative. Companies don't invest in incompetent CEOs. The representative waited for them, but Korean public opinion does not tolerate this. They gave up on success. . I was really rooting for this... but I'm disappointed.
I hope that everyone whom still following this case to try going deeper into the the evidence bearing by the members and not falling into shallow accusation that framing them as ungrateful. Q
I knew something was wrong when the girls were fighting back their company when they havent even completed 1 yr of their debut and they didn't release their album yet. Something was wrong bc the girls have nothing when they havent built their reputation yet.
They had things but they was resting whilst one was getting surgery. They had planned tv appearance the barbie mv and a Samsung sponsorship all cancelled all because of the law suit they bought this on themselves. Lovelyz slept all 8 members in one room on the floor for there dorm and this group say they are being treated bad? Come on they even had more space between members than I’ve did before they moved and Wonyoung and Yujin where doing loads of work etc. I do t see why they assumed they would be paid so soon. When some groups don’t see a penny for years if ever. The girls have been given good music videos, good clothes spots on music shows that no ordinary rookie from small companies get
IKR I feel like they're just being ungrateful They are being pampered, like literally pampered. They have lavish dorms and lavish clothes and they call it bad treatment ?
so? spacious rooms do not guarantee an appropriate treatment. it's not as if they got all the facilities for free. they worked for it. if they feel their company isn't treating them right, they shouldn't be put down for wanting a better treatment and knowing their own value. lovelyz never got as much success as fifty fifty during their whole career so there's no point in comparing them. idols shouldn't face situations like omegax and loona did just to say their companies mistreat them. if they aren't pleased with how they are treated, why do you have a problem with that? plus if they had such a hit song, they should be at least allowed to know where their company is spending the money earned by them however their company refused to say anything about it.
Not easy to debut and become a successful kpop idol. They succeeded but then became paranoid and seriously harmed their idol dreams and careers. Perhaps they are just too young and naive. Such a waste and a pity...
@@hyemster2274well Lovelyz is not a good comparison really. Let's go with Twice then. Twice probably the most successful rookie in K-Pop with 4 consecutive hits, multiple daesangs and tens of music show trophies. During all that glamorous rookie years they lived in a 3 bedroom 1 bathroom apartment. We all have seen their dorm. Quite small for 9 idols from a big agency. Did you ever heard them complain? No. Twice has been working non stop for 8 years now but their rookie years was insane, comeback every 4 months, doing commercials for more than 20 brands, variety shows left and right. Do you heard them complain? No. Jeongyeon suffers injury on her leg while filming a variety show but she still show up for every events that Twice was scheduled. Do you heard any complain from her? no. During one of their vlive, Jeongyeon casually revealed that they don't recieve their salary for a year after debut. Do you see them filing a lawsuit? No. Instead they keep going, working hard almost to the brink of exhaustion because they have passion, humbleness and love for their job. To them it's not about fame or money. And look at them now. They achieved everything any K-Pop idols could ever dream off. All of that because they endure the grueling K-Pop rookie years.
@@hyemster2274 Right. They have rights to know where the money goes. But the money thing.What you said is exact opposite of reality. They ruined 1st album and even cupid didn't make money. Why? Most of Song profit goes to composers not the company. What members did to get real profit? Concert? NO. Advertisement attraction? Zero. Album profit? No. (Even lovelz sells 50k in one song and 5050 cupid? 20k. 20k very small amount. Right?) Any Uni festival Event? No. ( korean uni festival give hella money to groups. Popular kpop groups go so many events.) TV show? I can barely see them just on youtube. When one member got sugery, Ceo gave all the members long vacation. While other idols work so hard to pay off, 5050 rest well. Do not even compare them to Loona. Hmm...yeah. literally they were failed group and did nothing yet😅 CEO spend his all money to make cupid success. You know how difficult to give new group such an expensive dorm in gangman? And give them long vacation when it's the first song ever that goes well? It was first and last chance of them. They could make huge support and money after this. But they didn't. Ok? THEY DID NOT MAKE MONEY. Even if company reveals about money there are still must be enormous debt. And members should pay for ceo not the opposite. No hate. Just facts. And Mistreating? No one in Korea would belive that. Almost all the time company was evil but this time.. Seems like evil snake producer An deceived members and their parents.
This incident is something that overseas fans interested in K-POP must be aware of. 50-50 is such a traitor. The agency's CEO made sacrifices and invested all his money in making Fifty-Fifty successful. But they lied to their fans, made the CEO a very bad person, and filed a lawsuit. Their only goal was to leave a small agency and become a global agency. Their leader gave everything for the Fifty- Fifty. However, what came immediately after the success was a lawsuit to terminate the contract. This is only part of this incident. The lies they lied to the public were truly cunning and incredible. Although they are receiving completely different criticism from Koreans than before, the members do not think Korea is important. This is because there are overseas fans who do not know about this incident. So overseas fans need to know more about this incident. In addition, all of their applications for contract termination were dismissed by the court.
Thank you Grace for putting out one of the only videos about this situation that is balanced and not immediately taking sides. It's hard to ignore the many obvious media plays that are out there in support of the CEO and smearing the members. The fact is the girls are asking for clear explanation on the investments the company claimed to have made for the girls. They might have been influenced by adults but the fact is still the CEO is using the media to paint a negative picture of the girls while trying to make himself look like the victim while not explaining any of the concerns raised by the members. - No explanation on where the remaining 3 billion WON investment from Interplay went to (vs the cited 6 billion supposedly spent on the members) - No explanation on why the CEO used 2 different companies to handle the investment from Interplay and management company (Star Crew +Attrakt) The talk about selling cars, borrowing mother's life savings and other comments to specific media (and not in courts) on top of false articles attempting to link the CEO to Sharp/Lee Ji Hye are obvious attempts by the CEO to mislead public opinion.
This is what real media play looks like! Kpop stans are always so quick to call things media play that aren't but what this CEO has been doing clearly is and it's pretty disgusting how people are just eating it up.
Cupid (lawsuit Ver) A hopeless lawsuit in my life Surrounded by 3 girls all the time I guess I should take it as a sign (Oh why, oh why, oh why, oh why?) (Ex members) I’m feeling lonely (Lonely) Oh, I wish I’d never sued that lawsuit could ruin me (Hold me) Now, I’m crying in my room Keena Was So skeptical of Attract m (Say what you say, but I want it more) But still, I want it more, more, more Ex members I gave a second chance to get a new contract signing …But now, I’m left here feeling stupid Oh, the way makes me feel That contract promise isn’t real Suing is so dumb I look for his lawsuit every day I guess it got lost or flew away Waiting around is a waste (Waste) Been counting the days since October Is suing as good as they say???? Now I’m so lonely (Lonely) Oh, I wish I’d find a lawyer that could hold me (Hold me) Now I’m crying in my room Was So skeptical of money ….. Now being blacklisted is a bore bore bore (Say what you say, but I want it more) But still, I want it more, more, more
Just how much lies did CEO Ahn implanted into them that they would've reacted so non chalantly to hearing their actual CEO sacrificing his belongings for them.
they are siding with no one, where you getting that from? They haven't said anything about the case but a lawsuit (About companies breaching their contracts and etc) and vague letters about the case...idk if that's siding a side. It is you guys siding. @@SuchaMinitra
I think because we have bad impression of companies and we Stan the idols that's why we always side with them, although I'm trying to be neutral I kinda lean towards the CEO side, I hope he'll be able to replace his loss with another group, also this is the bets video explaining the situation so far, I'm so thankful to you Grace
I know the song but didn't recognize the members yet and even momoland who hit big with thr song work hard,, it's hard to maintain that popularity knowing ur first song hit big but how can u be sure that the next one still the same and u aldry living in luxury life u feel like a famous group in big company spoiled rookie
I stand by these Girls… I am so disappointed in so many people attacking them and spreading misinformation, lies and hate… things like this can be very complicated and while we don’t have all of the facts, I think people should wait until the courts are finished and all the evidence comes out. But for now, I stand with the Girls.
Right! The comments on their Instagram page are so disgusting. People were looking for the slightest to chance to attack the girls, it’s so misogynistic
I'll wait until everything is settled to form my opinion, but I can't remember the last time music industry execs were the good guys in a dispute between the artist and a label or management. If anything, there are more than enough examples of artists getting screwed to make any artist wary.
That makes this CEO one in a million. That is why members are getting so much hate. Vanessa Lee, famous costume fabricator from Hollywood, revealed how supportive their CEO was. She declared her support for the CEO. She even went on to say she will make time for costumes for 5050 2nd generation. 2nd generation means whole new members.
@@vashonmartAnd this is why I said I'll wait until the matter is settled, unlike people who have no direct involvement with the suit pretending that they know what's actually going on, which there seems to be no shortage of on the internet. Lee has no dog in the fight, other than hoping to make money off of the Fifty Fifty name going forward, and unless she's directly involved in the court proceedings, her opinion is just that. Opinion. If she ends up testifying, then that's an entirely different matter. As for him being "one in a million" the members of Hot Shot didn't seem to think so, nor did Gil Hak Mi. Especially in legal matters, it's always a good idea to remember something I learned a long time ago, "There are three sides to every story. Your side, my side, and the truth". And even then, a court ruling may note disclose the truth, but merely what the parties involved were able to settle on.
@papawoody9597 Vanessa Lee is already famous and rich. She is already well established in Hollywood. She does not need help from one hit wonder to make more money. There are tons of people more famous than 5050 that wants her to make movie or stage costumes for them. Also management company is showing records of phone conversations and text messages to the whole world to see as evidence. May be you don't pay attention, but others do. Perhaps you should find out yourself instead of dismissing others who actually took time to research on the matter.
Was it Min Yoongi (SUGA / Agust D) from BTS who said that even after they became big around the world (2019? The year before their company went public?) that he / they were still in the red? Loyalty, trust, good will, and good faith. Without those, there is nothing in this world.
As much as I kinda see what fans mean by hating on Fifty Fifty since they were rookies, you gotta also remember THEY ARE ROOKIES. I also agree with you Grace that it seems like someone was in their ear and they believed them. Especially knowing how young they are. The girls are scared and got fame so fast. I don't even know how I would handle that kind of pressure.
@@ssfghjgghhgrdcbbnmjgddxcggg I heard the givers and the parents forbid Sio, Saena, and Aran from meeting with keena irl to negotiate and they were excluded out of it too And I heard someone offended keena by calling her a spy
A lot to the industry, but the track was literally produced and written by people outside of their main agency, so the agency(attrak) believing they are owed the it all is a stretch. They had no proper music to put out that would have made them a hit. Which is why he pushed so hard himself to recoup what the company had spent.
CEO said the girls are young and he can understand and he hopes the girls can come back. Infact, he is still promoting their new song on their official page. 😭 Even though the girls are doing this to him... 😢
@@applish I see, well I'm staying neutral till everything is resolve, I'm not pointing fingers at the girls and bashing them like stupid b*tches are doing right now
I think not everyone can handle fame and take right decisions ... As a bts fan i am happy that despite being from small company they made right decisions for themselves.. i was rooting for fiffty fiffty 😕😕 ...
We're gonna make new laws. We're really tired of seeing this type of idols. Look how many small good companis have got damaged by this type of idols and their lies. These girls should be called criminals someday soon and kicked out from Korean entertainmet industry forever. Good news is every major TV news, News papers and even criminal experts are saying "This kind of cheatings must be end this year!" Finally, people start being interested in these issues and taking it very serious.
They are done for. Their greedy personality ruined their career. Their betrayal sealed their fate as a one hit wonder. They will be shortly forgotten. I am just sad for Attrakt. All their investments, money time, and hard work, went up in smokes, thanks to greedy girls. There are talk of 5050 2nd generation with whole new members. I hope the best for 2nd generation for Attrakt 's sake.
attempting to trademark their stage name and group name do not constitute conspiracy. it was most likely a preemptive measure to claim THEIR contribution to the brand. it would avoid the situation T-ara was involved in. they had to go to court to get their name back. no one wants to go through that. it's irresponsible for "they" (you quote netizen opinion a lot) to speculate this controversy was premeditated by the girls.
I just miss Fifty Fifty😔😢. I want an update of them. I hope they are safe and healthy. I miss seeing them. I miss Aran's bright smile. 'hope she didn't loose that smile because of this issue. Still waiting for their comeback.💞
It sucks and all. But the girls should of waited out. And stuck with their company who invested so much on them. And waited for them to be big enough like Blackpink to see if they are getting paid fairly to do a lawsuit. Cause if the company did them dirty they can should get paid what they are deserved. Doing it early could of ruined their career. If they waited they would be big enough that this lawsuit wouldn’t effect them that bad
If they want to leave, that’s very fine, pay the penalty, then join whatever next. But in this case, they did all the lying and acting, want to walk away with 0 cost of breaching the contract. The agency company done all their jobs and responsibilities, and even more, to lead the group to success. That is why the girls’ decisions was not acceptable for most people.
I think the first court case has alrrady happened by now? Sounds like a messy situation. I doubt the CEO is an angel, but we also can't blindly attack him without hearing his side, but it's hard to say how informed Fifty Fifty is with filing this lawsuit when they're still so new and young, but I also don't want to use that to dismiss any of their concerns. It's better to wait for the court cases to come out and more information to be revealed before picking sides.
I really curious like which company will take fifty fifty after all this (whatever the final verdict is)? The members have history suing their previous company and also claiming copyright.
I can't believe how many people blindly believe everything the CEO says and act like there's no possible way that he's exaggerating or outright lying about the sacrifices he made for the girls. Stop being such sheep, people!
Key facts from the trial so far: The ceo obtained 9 billion won in advance from interpark under starcew en(which mess managed the bg hotshot)not atract and that means all profit will be directed to starcrow en . 6 billion were used for the group but a strong suspecion about where the rest of the money went, that might lead to Money laundering . Additional informations : a journalist is releasing 10s of articles attacking FIFTY FIFTY but he was also attacking soojin ex gidle when her allegations begun . He also wrote an article saying the ceo is the one who stood up for a female idol when she was bullied by her group , but he was the pr director who was on the company s side who did nothing to help her. The ceo said in an interview :Honestly, I have a prickly personality. When speaking with my artists I don't hold back. I shoot viciously, telling them things they don't want to hear like "lose weight, work on your singing"
Ahn's position (source: Ahn's uncle) 1) He claims to be innocent. 2) If he wins the first lawsuit, he is about to start Fifty Fifty's overseas activities (I can't deliver in detail because I don't have legal knowledge. I'm sorry.) 3) He thinks that overseas fans will not know the news coming out of Korea at all. (Ahn doesn't seem to know the communicative power of social media in the 21st century.) 
I mean I understand a lot of the Kpop industry. Even the dark and shady things as well. I do feel like the girls are being manipulated and so I never knew what to do. I want things to end on good terms. Also I heard that the parents of the members were the ones who trademarked the names, without the members knowing. But maybe even the parents are being manipulated too. Or maybe the ceo really is just being shady so the girls lost trust. I love Fifty Fifty, and I hate how people come to judge others so quickly when they don't know all the details. I just keep my ears open and hear everything and I make my decision when I feel like I understand everything. Right now I still feel like they never should gone with this lawsuit. I wished both sides communicated and solved things immediately. Rather than the company rushing straight to social media to cause drama, and rather than Fifty Fifty and their families cutting contact with the company. It's a business contract and like you say, it's like a divorce. So it's basically a relationship and relationships will never work if both either side is unwilling to communicate or trying to spread rumors.
Noone in Korea support them including entire kpop industry. Because its not “controversy thing”.. the details of lawsuit were disclosed and its kinda obvious that the company is in victim position please just read those statement. Its almost beyond absurd
not really, the company and ceo are too at fault. They are not victims but besides from the opposing agency. (It all started about drama in business, not cuz of the girls.)@@user-pl2bp3zr7j
Correction: they're not suing that the company's not booking enough gigs for them. It's the opposite: they are complaining that they are being overworked. But the fact is that they had a grand total of 12 gigs over a span of 6 months. Disclosed text messages show that the very CEO they are suing specifically directed that their schedule be light, out of concern for their health. Their "lawsuit" is such a joke, and with Interpark themselves coming out with a statement earlier today, even their complaint about finances has been proven to be a complete farce. People in the entertainment industry have been guarding their words until this point, but they are now openly scoffing at them.
I’m a fifty fifty stan and can confirm that our fandom was very annoyed by the lack of promotion after cupid success! Only 1 variety show, the company didn’t capitalise the success enough
It is known that the girls rejected schedules after their success, because of fatigue and sickness. And now, they revealed indictment in the court that the CEO had pushed for an unreasonable and unbearable schedules. Some Lawyers in South Korea say that in this case, the girls will pay less penalty even if they lose the case. Why? Because the profits that the company was able to obtain also decreased due to the reduced schedules. The girls' actions seem duplicitous and scheming.
Omg please look at the truth. They rejected the promo since one of them got injury. And after that they threw those chances away just to lawsuit their company even way before the break-even point. Literally noone in kpop industry support them and almost whole nation is aware of this situation in korea not supporting them over their objectively selfish statement
I feel really bad for these girls imagine what this is doing their mental health? Like how is this all effecting the members mentally? There so young some of them are still minors am I right they r very easy to manipulate and very easy to sway if the right stuff is said I don’t think the girls deserve as much hate as their getting I think most of it is other people and quite possibly there parents pulling the strings here I feel like the girls r in some state of limbo their stuck right in the middle of this I’m sure these girls don’t even know half the stuff involved in dealing with all this court and financial stuff there so young and impressionable I just hope some good comes from this the girls r talented and they have amazing songs Lovin Me is my jam of the year.
I still can’t wrap my head around the parents' decisions. I'd never, under any circumstances, let my kid go through a lawsuit without consulting multiple lawyers or something, and making sure this situation really NEEDS a lawsuit because it can’t be resolved without it. We can’t know what happens behind closed doors but so far, the lawsuit was a horrible horrible decision.
I saw some vids about this, but the most recent one said Fifty girl is lying. Sad to see a success new girl group with a hit songs even in Barbie movie to now not sure if they would ever get to sing as a group or by individual. EXO went to something recently about their financial and demanded S.M to show them, at the end they drop it so I guess something worked out behind the scene. The Korean entertainment court should has a law to make all companies to be transparent with their idols new or old. Similar to what Chuu is suing the Black Berry comp and many other idols.
Hopefully they won't lose their group name, the brand coz that might the most important thing. But if that happened I hope they could be able to use similar names that fans can easily recognize, like `Forty Forty or Sixty Sixty `, not something too far off! Wish them best :)
The group is nothing special, the song is. Why the CEO would want to keep working and investing in ungrateful people that even sue him? Imagine the vibes in that office, makes no sense at all, so I guess Fifty is pretty much doomed.
the girls are being easily manipulated and gaslighted, for the most, I just hope they find peace and continue making music i really love them and they are young for all this drama💔
I feel like fifty fifty members has little information on how the industry works since they are easily manipulated by whoever is behind asking them to sue their company and also their complaints is too much, they came from a small company, BTS had it worst during their debut days. Their company tried its best to accommodate them. Some kpop idols that has been in the industry for years has not received their first salary, their popularity might even just a one hit wonder, they're like a spoiled brat acting up.
@@oliveb.since when did I say BTS has debt? Ofcourse I'll compare them to BTS because they were both from a small company but the difference is that BTS would never do this to Bighit
@@angelmin4053 your comparison makes no sense because you actually have no idea what either of these groups have experienced behind the scenes in real life outside of what they have chosen to share publicly. Why do people always feel the need to bring BTS into every kpop conversation? Being from a small company doesn't make their experiences anywhere near the same. And you have no idea what BTS would have done if they were in the same situation and experiencing what these girls have experienced since you don't know BTS like that. You act as if you are in their heads or something
@@oliveb. ofcourse there's no way I'll know everything behind but I know BTS base on their personality and all this years that they are popular they stay the same humble and hardworking. Why are you so triggered, you all cant accept the fact fifty fifty made a wrong decision? Those rumors about them having luxury that other kpop idols could never have and yet they are already asking for company's receipt because of their one hit wonder song? Their other mvs doesnt even make a sound
The artist Gil Hak-mi who was previously under Oscar entertainment, a past company that the ceo made, made a story showing support of the members. They said “My poor girls… I also wanted ti, so i understand your feelings. People dont know unless they are directly involved.” Ahhhh i just hope everything goes well!!!!
Well did you read her next post from the instagram she said she did not mean to defend the girls or attack the CEO. She just literally meant “I know how it Would be hard to keep walking to where you were going when you lose the faith” that’s it. Gil Hak me corrected it. Also, people spoke up for the CEO they brought the evidence more in details. I donno if the foreign Kpop new writers mentioned about ex idol The rush Kim Min Hee’s testimony. She is a mom now and it would not be so easy for her to come out to media and give her testimony. She is getting attacked by the haters of the blinded girls fans. That is how much she is willing to speak up for the CEO. But what about Gil Hak Mi? She gave her words too easily and confused the public, fans and did not even provide any relevant evidence compare to the witnesses who spoke up for the CEO. I really hope the fans from the abroad are updated to the most recent news and recognize that there were so many evidences provided from CEO side but not from girls (well I understand they are in fear now) and the Givers side ( I see he is the main vilian here with all his past records of snatching the singer and the actor from the other company with the exact same way)
You are distorting the truth. The artists who worked with the CEO in the past are supporting him. They all praise the CEO's integrity. Gil Hak-mi stated that she did not support Fifty Fifty.
@@Whitepinkkkk ahhh i’m sorry i didn’t know 😭!!! i haven’t been online in some time and haven’t seen that update!! i’ll delete this thank you for correcting me!!!
@@user-ek2se1xs1yaver mira ora que salió el episodio/documentaría, ya se ben ustedes como pendejos jajaja. El ingles no es mi primer lenguaje entonces no tengo muchos recursos especialmente por que mucha info esta en ingles y en koreano, pero damn. Vete a la chingada cara de culo jajaja. Ahora ya se ven como estupidos por defendiendo abusadores. La compania estaban motorienando a las ninas 24/7, no le daban suficiente comida, y la dieta que tenían era pechuga de pollo y cafe de mantequilla, y después salió el video de personas que trabajan en los givers y trabajodores de attrakt tirando la comida que le dieron sus padres, gritándolas , y haciéndolas que recojen la comida. Ya se ven como pendejos defendiendo estos abusadores pero ay pero como dijo mi madre,los pendejos que tienen la carra de buró van a creer mentiras si? Vete a tu casa a chingar tu madre guey😂🤣
I feel horrible for the CEO. He spent 8 million to get Fifty Fifty up and running. He sold his Rolex, used his mothers life savings. They got one on one lessons and a big apartment. I know that it probably wasn’t solely the girls choice, that there was probably some stuff behind the scenes, but this CEO sounds ten times better than some CEOs I’ve heard of before.
A simple like in this video would help this channel out alot!👍🏻 And watch the Kpop contract reading video i did ruclips.net/video/EZlV2hxsRaU/видео.html
I've heard this song on the radio and had no clue this was a kpop group until your video😂. Think im so surprised is bc its you have to be like BTS level to make it to our (U.S) mainstream airwaves and that they're not BTS level and still did it is remarkable. I'm sure it helps big time that there's an English version.
What a nightmare!
This need a new update video
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Sounds pretty glamorous to me
@@DUNGSTA lmfao then you go try.
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@@DUNGSTAgood luck going through the audition.
finally someone who can explain what is going on with the fifti fifty lawsuit thing i never understood it TYYSMMMM!!
YES im here!!
Same here. They would just explain that a lawsuit happened, but wouldn’t actually explain what happened to the group and the company
basically, they did backstabbing
Pretty much yeah
Pretty much yeah
1. Attrakt are suing Givers as an external force and in the initial documents they found evidence that Givers forged documents and tried to embezzle money and have added embezzlement to their lawsuit.
2. Givers tried to negotiate with Warner Music Korea without Attrakt knowledge.
3. Givers removed the composers from the copyright and transferred it to SIAHN producer directly and lied to the CEO.
4. Givers convinced the group that the CEO wasn't looking after their health despite evidence that the CEO was the one who suggested they take a break and that it was SIAHN was the one who wanted Aran to go back to work.
5. Givers haven't allowed any of the parties to talk to each other directly making it easy for them to scam everyone. Attrakt, Warner Music Korea, the Cupid composers and the Group only talked through the Givers. Now it is going through legal proceedings, I think once all the parties actually get to start talking to each other directly, they will all realise who the real bad guys are.
Now with all this coming to light, how do people expect the girls to stay with such an incompetent CEO?????? Doesn’t matter if he’s a nice person he’s still terrible as a CEO. The girls jumped ship early to avoid sinking with him because he clearly doesn’t know what’s going on and blindly trusting random people….. he is a victim in terms of other companies but the girls are also victims of his incompetency.
@@LightLifeList what you mentioned doesn’t necessarily negate what i said either. I agree there are tons of missing information that have yet to be revealed but from the information that we got before, the girls had no contact with the CEO (i agree that they should have made more effort to contact him directly) but we never really know what SIAHN has told them about the CEO or how far he went to prevent their contact. There’s clearly been a lot of manipulation of both the CEO and the girls. The CEO has every right to sue SIAHN’s a** and the girls also have the full right to terminate their contracts due to this whole mess regardless whether they were told “lies” by SIAHN or were manipulated. End of the day, CEO is still very incompetent as a CEO but appears to be a very kind person who’s easily taken advantage off unfortunately.
I just don’t like how the girls are painted as backstabbers when they could also have been manipulated just like how the public is sympathizing with the CEO due to him being manipulated….
Who are the real bad guys?
@@DUNGSTA The Givers production team led by producer Anh Sung Il
I feel sad for the CEO. He paid for the song "Cupid" but the producer cheated him of the music rights. He is well known for being a good CEO in the industry. Many artists who were under him came out to speak for him, which is something rare. Hope he gets his justice.
Update :
I saw many people talking about the financial statements, 2 million expenses. The proof of expenses was already submitted to the court. And court decision was already made that he was innocent.
But it’s weird because there’s been artist who talked about going through the same thing with him as 50-50. Honestly the whole entire thing is sketchy I don’t think either party is completely innocent
Yes I feel sad for the CEO as he is going to rot in jail for 20 years 😂
I am not completely sure if this is 100% correct but i read some things regarding the ceos other company. This from what I heard so im not completely sure if this is 100% correct so if this turns out to be wrong i’m sorry 😭!!! so bare with me! My english isnt good so im sorry!!!
the girls asked for financial statements as there right. Members in groups wont be payed early on but i think they were talking about lack of transparency of financial statements that would be for future.The statements shows 0 income because all moneys went to Dtar Crew Entertainment,which JHJ is also the CEO of. This is done to pay off loan to Interpark who gave 9 billion moneys to Starcrew. A debt starcrew is repaying with profits from attrackt and fifty fifty. i am not completely sure, but I think a boygroup named Hot Shot was under that company. This means that they are at a consistent negative in comaony profits for a loan to a company they not part of without there knowledge. i think loan was peocessed 2 years ago and the cro admits he paid 6 billion moneys for the girls debut, but where is the other 3 million, maybe Starcrew. The excess funds show that he not sell his car or rolex, this may be a story to gain public sympathy. Members would be in debt form an external loan for finances they are unsure whether they are being used personally by ceo or if apartment is just going to wrack up more debt for them, somr people have compared this method to BBC to LOONA. I also know they claimed they were being taken care of or there physical and mental health wzsnt being aknowledged, especially arans foot injury which led to surgery. I think they are also suing for lack of promotion and schedule as well. Gil Hak-mi was previously under Oscar entertainment that was owned by the ceo and has come out in support for the girls saying “My poor girls, I also wanted yo, so i understand your feelings. People dont know unless there involved”.
thats a lie, hes been writing mediaplay articles and he mismanaged hotshot with ha sungwoon
The CEO might be a nice person but he’s terrible as a CEO. The girls have very right to leave.
if what the Attrakt CEO does turn out to be true then i really feel for him, he put so much into the girls, sacrificed and gambled so much of his own life for them.
It feels like the Attrakt CEO is the good one and the givers CEO is the bad one seeing as though he was caught lying and Keena came back
That CEO is the same who treated HotShot like sht.
@@winwinner6674 can you provide source of this info? thanks.
What did he do/say?@@winwinner6674
there is no winner here. no matter who wins the law suit, fifty fifty career is over. they are labelled as back stabber in Korea and there is no coming back from this in Korea.
Givers has history stealing an artist name 손승연 the same way. she is on the spot light again because of fifty fifty incident.
Nice wishful thinking. At the end of the day we're not the ones deciding if it's over or not.
@@divx1001 It is over. Most Kpop producers made it clear that they will not provide songs for 50 50 anymore, (fyi, Kpop producers mostly do not take sides between the company and singers, but now they all support the CEO so you know how much 50 50 has messed up). Most of he Kpop fans turn their backs on 50 50 too, (mostly they will support the artist but this time most of them support the CEO too). So it is over for them for sure....
Good. They are backstabbers and national traitors for singing in english anyways. Plus why would you bite the hand that feeds you because someone has said you'll get more money? Greed. They don't deserve a career. Good riddance. I hope they fade back to obscurity as quick as they rose to fame.
The newest is that only one of the girls got redeemed and will get knetz support. Keena returned to the company and apologized and dropped her lawsuit.@@hcygd5695
Based on the list of cancelled promotion due to this lawsuit, all of them seem very high profile. So I don’t understand why there is a sense that they weren’t promoted enough? The issue with making it big so fast is that everything else is still catching up. But it can feel like they are not moving fast enough. When in reality things can only move so fast in the real world. It is very different from going viral.
what we see as fans and what goes on inside the company is different maybe
The girls have actually been on quite a few variety shows for promotion even before they shot to fame, and the best part is that they're all properly subtitled in English. This is pretty rare for Korean groups in my experience unless you're a big shot. Looks to me like the company had really invested in them.. So sad about the girls deciding to do this. Regardless of outcome it looks like their reputation is gone, and it's just way too early in their careers to do this.
That’s why I was confused aswell and also I heard that the ceo lived in his car so they could debut so I was surprised about them suing the company.
@@editname654he definitely did not, he had an investment of 8 million from interpark. Which he didn't even fully use it on them, despite his claims.
@@editname654no it was actually that he sold his car but he lied accordint to fifty fifty he treted them horribly
@@drscluaria you are liar.
@@accper26you are liar.
Personally I think they should wait for their fan base to get stronger first before leaving/suing the company. Like how kara, jyj, jessica, Hyuna and 2ne1 situation. They are still able to be active in the industry due to their strong fanbase. This is a very risky move from them cause they are still rookie.
Dont even mention other idols. company ceo invested huge amount of money over fifty fifty even in debt and they lawsuit to monopolize things instantly as soon as they gain fame. Its really unusual event and noone support them (including public to people in kpop industry) at least not in Korea
@@user-pl2bp3zr7jbffr if u want to debut they would have to train for years, dieting and being exhausted, why would they decide to ruin their career after one hit song and not try to strive thru, there is obv more reason why they did what they did, as a kpop stan u always have to stay neutral and hear both sides of the story bc we cant js side w one person bc we werent there to see it firsthand
@@drscluaria hey i am korean.
the givers is swindlers.
the givers and fifty fifty conspired this crime. All evidence proves it.
@@user-pl2bp3zr7jthe CEO is the same one who treated HotShot miserably. You just fell for his bs.
As a casual fan of Fifty, I'm just leaving this to the pertinent courts to judge. Their appreciation of evidence is paramount in determining just cause. We do not know the whole story. I repeat, we do not know the whole story. It is prudent that we wait it out and see who wins the case. Then we can decide what to make of this better.
There have been so many proofs published by dispatch. I think the girls are done. No one Will support them
attract 100% win!!!
@@user-ii8rt2yd1uyesss 🎉❤
This was very insightful and helpful to hear given that you have gone through similar situations yourself! I really appreciate your straightforward approach and not being someone who speculates
thanks for watching!
I've looked at several Fifty Fifty videos from start to finish and this is the first unbiased video that talks about the allegations, but leaves the truth and judgement to the courts. Well done Grace. First time I've seen any of your videos. Good job with the makeup.
It's fascinating that "Fifty Fifty" and "Pipeuti Pipeuti" legally count as two separate names.
Fr what a joke💀
i think being in different language, it does consider a two seperate copyright!
can't sign english name on korea's patent
It’s cringe really 💀 but no one wants to hear that conversation.
Right to the both language names are applied by the agency (English name)and members family(Korean name). That does not mean rights are granted. Agency applied the English name about a month ahead of members. Also internationally. Most likely members application won’t be granted.
Everyone on AllKpop should see this video....even if some did, with your great explanation, they prolly still have a made up mind about sending the girls to the guillotine! Good stuff Grace as usual....hwaiting!
Koreans think that the 50/50's claim about mistreatment is a petty excuse for the buyout and I agree.
1. The members had the most pristine housing conditions for a rookie group at a small label. The CEO paid $2500/month for their 3BR 3Bath apartment in Gangnam, which is super luxurious in Korea. They had top-tier lessons and English education which are all very privileged.
2. The members were on a break for the last few months because of one of the members' surgery. So it doesn't align with their claims about how the CEO allegedly "forced" them to work despite health conditions. IK It's bad to compare but idols like BP, Le sserafim, and many others have way harsher schedules than them.
3. So far, from the courtroom, all of their claims about financing were ruled out as a misunderstanding.
4. The main income for K-pop artists come from album sales, concerts, gigs, and brand deals. 50/50 hasn't done a lot of these but they had a lot of these lined up for them if they had just waited (like the Barbie deal).
5. 50/50 did well in the streaming department, but that isn't very lucrative for business. Again, if they were patient and actually did the activities mentioned in 4 (which were already scheduled for them), they would've actually broke even and get paid.
I know that a lot of these claims didn't come from the 50/50 members. I'm pretty sure they were manipulated by The Givers producer and their parents. But they're not that innocent like what many of the international fans are saying.
It is sad to see how greedy they are and how many lies they have told to gain benefits. Really sorry to see how they exposed the ugliest sides of them. The producer and the members along with their parents should be boycotted forever from the industry. Just choose another 4 members and I don't think the end result will be different.
these girls are so stupid to terminate their contracts rather than just being neutral and wait for court trial to clear all things up.
I agree with this and also hate to compare but many of the groups we view as "BIG" now such as Seventeen and BTS were living in poorer situations and took awhile to get paid even after their songs became "viral" or "mainstream". Sure their situation may be different because they also take part in producing their own music but even SM groups who are always a hit in Korea don't get paid right away /: TikTok is a GREAT new avenue for new artists but unfortunately one or two viral/hit songs does not guarantee continued success. We can see this from the failed promotions of MOMOLAND who deserved more, same for GFRIEND who got shaded so hard by SOURCE MUSIC (and I adore Le Sserafim).
Greed is wild though, I honestly wouldn't have heard of FIFTY FIFTY if their song CUPID wasn't shoved in my face on every platform and I don't even use TikTok.
@@hello_sundayes, I wouldn’t say that rookie idols should live in not-so-good environment to humble them but seems it’s better method than to just spoon-fed everything to them from start and let them get ahead of themselves when they just start their careers.
5050 environment (dorm) is way better than most rookie idols out there, unless you are from big companies. Like you said, I’ve heard many successful senior idols telling their struggle in the past, like how they live under the basement, or they live with cockroaches, or they share one small room with multiple members. Those were hard times but now that they’re telling them like fond memories that drove them to work harder.
5050 members should believe in what they see and experience with their own eyes more than listening to the bad adults around them. Did no one question is it okay to sue their company like this when they’re treated nicely? Were there no trust between the members and company at all that they couldn’t talk and work this problem without bringing to the court? I mean I would’ve trusted them more if their dorm are like shit. But now we haven’t seen evidence on how they could’ve been treated badly by their company yet. If anything, like previous comment said they should’ve stayed neutral and just let GIVERS vs ATTRAKT fight, but unfortunately they already sided with GIVERS pretty early on. IMO GIVERS’ Ahn Sung-Il is the mastermind behind manipulation of the girls, the parents, the CEO, external potential investor, and maybe even the original producer of the song
Just to play devil's advocate:
1) The housing conditions for a rookie girl group are actually a red flag to me that actually DOES indicate mismanagement of funds. If they're from a small company and the CEO is literally paying THAT MUCH to put 4 girls in a luxurious apartment, why the hell were they placed in there in the first place? That sounds like unnecessary costs being added on to an already expensive debut. The CEO is then guilty of trying to "live above his means". People trying to claim the members have no right to complain while living in a place like that, but all I can think of "How the hell did the CEO intend to maintain giving the girls all that if Cupid never went viral? There's no way he would have been able to continue affording it."
2) You literally don't know if/when the member was injured and also comparing it to another group saying "they have it worse that 50/50 but still promote" doesn't change the fact that the injured member could've been injured for months prior? We don't know when she got injured, we just know when she requested to take time off for surgery.
3) Misunderstanding could be related to what Grace said, someone else was whispering in the girl's ears trying to get them to believe something that wasn't true. I highly doubt a group of teenagers are going to understand the depths of the music industry enough to actually plan this whole thing out maliciously to backstab their CEO.
4) We don't know what their contract states about distribution of funds, not every company has the same plan.
5) Not necessarily if the CEO was spending so much money on giving them a "top girl group" experience. If he's ripping money out of his mother's bank account and selling the clothes off hiss back it means he's ALREADY spent more money than he has available. Those girls would be in debt forever. To me it's similar to Loona where their company spent millions and millions on their pre-debut project which meant that Loona would literally never break even unless they reached Twice, Blackpink, or BTS levels of success. (Speaking in terms of specifically when Loona was first debuting, before we knew anything else about how shady BBC was because remember back then how much fans were praising BBC for giving the girls such a unique pre-debut.)
This has been something I’ve always been so curious about and I can tell just from the things you’ve talked about how difficult things were for you during your legal battles. Thank you for explaining this situation and sharing more about your story grace ❤
If they didn't want to work with their agency anymore they should've come up with a better alternative like discussion and coming to agreement with the agency rather than carelessly filing a lawsuit. The agency is one of main reasons behind their success and the investment made on them was enormous compared to the size of the agency. Who would compensate those investments??
Never let your greed influence your decision or you'll face consequences and these girls are facing it now
How do you know they did not?
@@esAmaranta do you really think they had generated enough revenue just from one album to cover up the cost incurred during the entire process??
i think the givers ceo may have a role in the girls decision, his decisions show he’s not a good person in this case. but i don’t think the attrakt ceo is a good person in this situation either as he has fake news out there that’s boosting his reputation while ruining 5050’s image and he had several companies before. it doesn’t help that people talking about the attrakt ceo’s past are getting doxxed in korea.
i think the girls got stuck in both of the ceos’ mess and got influenced by one side. they’re so young too and they’re probably closer to one ceo than the other.
its also hard to understand this situation because we only really know of 1 side while the other is mostly silent. there is most likely a lot the public doesn’t know about this situation.
@@ankito-090Their profit was about 6-7 billion won, according Korean Sports and Culture Apartment. But the profit that appeared in Attrak’s report is 0 won.
@@ankito-090That song went hugely viral! They probably did earn a lot of revenue from streams over and over and over again so I wouldn't be surprised.
The Givers were hired by Attract. Therefore they should not own anything about Fity Fifty. But the Giver steal the rights behind Attract by registering Ffty Fifty as theirs. Attract had no idea the givers are working on these things with the girls behind him. The girls are not that innocent. They knew they were betraying the CEO of Attract. Their parents were involved, too. Koreans don’t want these kind of ungrateful people to succeed.
thank you for covering this! as always it's the easiest for me to understand news when it is you doing the explaining
Glad it was helpful!
Let me clear up why Fifty Fifty is being criticized by Koreans.
1. They've just debuted, and they've already asked for a settlement. Three million dollars. CEO Jeon Hong-joon planned to pay off the debt incurred in training Fifty Fifty first with profits, and then settle it accurately, but suddenly they sued CEO Jeon Hong-joon.
2. CEO Jeon Hong-joon provided welfare and education at the level of a large agency to raise the children even by selling his belongings and family belongings. But I betrayed CEO Jeon Hong-joon's efforts.
3. CEO Ahn Sung-il has long been notorious for lying a lot and stealing artists from other agencies. And it's becoming more controversial because of this incident.
4. CEO Ahn Sung-il continues to commit all kinds of misdeeds to somehow ruin CEO Jeon Hong-joon by mobilizing the parents of the Fifty Fifty members. Because of this, other celebrities, producers, and agencies are all angry.
5. Fifty Fifty's parents independently registered the trademark rights of Fifty Fifty without consulting the agency. The agency used tens of millions of dollars to steal the group that debuted.
6. CEO Ahn Sung-il registered all the copyrights as his own without asking the Swedish composer who wrote the title song "Cupid." He even stole a song from a Swedish composer.
7. CEO Ahn Sung-il even attempted to destroy evidence to cover up everything with CEO Jeon Hong-joon's crime. Fortunately, all the evidence has been preserved and restored, but they are still trying to destroy it.
8. The relatives of CEO Ahn Sung-il and professional trainers and producers who participated in the Fifty Fifty management persuaded Fifty Fifty to apologize to CEO Jeon Hong-joon and start over. But they completely ignored it.
9. They even filed a criminal complaint against CEO Jeon Hong-joon for breach of trust when the negotiations broke down and it was likely to become increasingly unfavorable. I don't think it's a civil suit anymore, so I was trying to make a crime.
10. Fifty Fifty claimed that CEO Jeon Hong-joon announced their illness without consent and that he sexually harassed them. But then they actually signed a contract with an agency that produces sexy adult movies. Why did the girls, who were angry that the CEO committed sexual harassment, sign a contract with an agency that produces racy adult films? Doesn't that odd?
11. CEO Ahn Sung-il won his own contract with Warner Bros. Music Group without notifying CEO Jeon Hong-joon. And I kept hiding it from CEO Jeon Hong-joon. He was trying to monopolize the overseas expansion through Warner Bros.
12. Fifty Fifty's parents gave back money to a producer of a current affairs culture program on SBS, one of Korea's leading terrestrial broadcasters, and unconditionally made biased reports in favor of Fifty Fifty. Viewers were very angry that SBS mocked viewers through biased reports. So the SBS homepage was paralyzed for 6 hours.
There are many other controversies and misdeeds, but there are 11 things I can sort out. If you need more, I will organize it again and reply to you later.
"They filed a biased report" brother, just because you don't like the facts doesn't mean it's biased. You are making a martyr out of a CEO who had no interest in giving those kids a fair shot. Also, use your brain for once: what does he win by keeping the group? He should cut his losses and let them go.
12 isn't even that surprising, companies themselves do it, but then instead of it being considered bribery it's just called "networking". Hell even politicians do it.
Fifty Fifty and their music seems like the least harmful thing a corrupt reporter/broadcaster could be promoting.
Yay! I’m glad you’re releasing more videos, let me go make smthing real quick
omgggg get some mac n cheez
Ngl, I see potential in the 2 vocals of the group but not the rappers and I feel that Cupid might be a 1 hit wonder for them even if they leave their company for some reason.. I think they filed for the lawsuit way too early, like they debuted around 9 months ago and their company they're complaining about managed to give them a huge song, like the English version of Cupid is in my opinion better than all English songs released by all other K-pop groups combined, even better than my favorites.. You gotta put yourself in their CEO shoes.. This is a huge slap on the face to him considering the huge amount of money he invested in them
Regarding the lack of promotions and ads for them, I think this is the case for most of the groups coming from small companies.. I think broadcasting companies don't really prefer them.. Like look at how successful ATEEZ is.. They're selling millions of albums and performing on big stages, yet they don't appear on lots of variety shows nor have that many ads they appear on, especially during their rookie days.. Can we say their agency, KQ Entertainment, is bad for that?? As an Atiny, I think KQ is great because it managed them so well and gave them such good production team to make their songs and helped improving the members skills.. Similarly, I don't think we've seen enough shortage or lacking from Attrakt to blame them.. This only would damage the girls of Fifty Fifty as they appear greedy and backstabbers
For the record, when you're talking about the thingy that suspends your contract while the lawsuit is ongoing, that's called an "injunction" in English.
thank you
Their ceo gave them everything he had and he didn’t have
The CEO is the same who treated HotShot miserably.
Finally someone explains in English the unfortunate event comprehensively. Please keep updating us as the event unfolds. What a total waste of once in a life time opportunity to everyone involved. No winners here.
Been a Kpop fan since late first generation… I have seen lots of bad things happen to artists over the years… yet so many netizens still love to attack artists… so many idols have hurt themselves, or worse… look what happened to Soojin from G-Idle… it’s just so disgusting watching people enjoy spreading hate…
It's true!!!
A writer who made many articles against Soojin and spread false information to many people is actually now writing false articles about the fifty fifty members as well :(
Ah ok, So just defending your Idols as If they're some kind of Invulnerable, Untouchable, Spiritual godlike existence whatever they do Is the best option to support them? Let's just left behind those case, Are you gonna prove perfectly that Fifty Fifty and The Givers Didn't make their hand dirty just because some ignorant people spread the false Information of G-Idle or something?
@@Imsobloodylit Oh don’t be so dense. I am not saying anything about idols being higher than any person… I just don’t understand why people want to destroy other people. Toxic people are out there spreading misinformation and lies about this story. No one really knows what’s the truth about this or what is going on behind the scenes.
My point about Soojin is one example of many. How many people have hurt themselves or committed suicide because of bullying and abuse? Even artists like IU has songs about it
You seem to want to believe that Fifty Fifty are guilty of the gossip that was put out by the CEO and others, but you don’t want to wait for the truth to come out? Makes no sense… Plus now the CEO has again changed his story and he now says that the girls are innocent.
I think it’s disgusting that people have been saying such hateful stuff about four young girls that they don’t know… yet they still want to destroy their lives? It’s sad and disgusting… and if you feel that way, then there’s something wrong with you as well.
@@Imsobloodylit damn bro it’s not that deep😭 i was just pointing out that this dude is always on female idols asses and never does the same thing to male idols that’s it omg 💀over here writing paragraph after paragraph over kpop 😭
Unfortunately, this issue is now being dealt with very seriously in Korea,
The Korean Celebrity Association is also supporting the agency
I hope that both sides will be settled amicably
Honestly, even if the court ruled for 5050, the public doesn’t like the girls anymore. They might be successful overseas though.
Are there any news about this?
Members family stated that they will meet the agency under terms of separation only. Not going to meet agency under any other conditions. Sorry most contents are in Korean. Search term would be “피프티피프티 논란”
Thank you for explaining this. Tbh it felt weird, after their success, they not appear in a lot of show. Their RUclips also dont have that much update. Maybe there are something behind the scene. We just need to be patient and Wait until everything settle in the court.
tysm for explaining it so well i was so confused all this time😭😭😭😭
I am glad i support all kpop idols and didn't jump in an instant in the FIFTY FIFTY hate bandwagon. Everytime there's a backlash against somebody it always backfires on the fans and online community.
Actually at first nobody hate them until the phone call evidences came up. The actual hate band wagon is with the CEO bc there’s no evidence at all about how he mistreated the girls (the evidence even said otherwise)
thanks for updating us Grace 🥰
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Their company got them a Samsung ad lined up, Barbie OST, I don’t think that’s no schedules… also u missed the fact that the producer guy actually put the Cupid song under his own name at KOMCA and not under the song writer’s names, that means that all the proceeds from the success of that songs went 100% to that fraudster producer, he is definitely shady AF. Also, which company films 4 MVs for a comeback? I mean not even the big4 company invests that much in their artists, u Can’t really say that the company didn’t try to promote them tho….
Newjeans mv for every song
There's no one who can explain the inside story of kpop industry better than Grace.❤❤❤
grace i appreciate your insight and knowledge on topics like this, thank you for making this video and providing clarity! :)
thanks for the breakdown! it was interesting to hear what it’s like in a chill yet detailed manner - since it’s easy to not know the gray areas and perspectives as a lot of the public is not directly exposed to the industry and blindly choose sides. hope u do more of videos like these in the future ! :)
Tbh I really loved fifty fifty when they first debuted and I was really happy when they went viral and honestly after hearing all these rumors idk what to believe anymore, anyway im glad you are uploading 😭
yes its crazy its happening...
Apparently, the reporter making the articles about them in Korea was the one who ruined Soojin's (G-idle) career/life
@@yuh8946no wonder
@@yuh8946That would explain a lot… Soojin should have sued him… I still miss her, for some reason I haven’t been able to get into G-Idle after she left… they seemed to change their style of music a bit… I am glad they are doing well and continuing to improve their popularity, but I still feel bad for Soojin.
@@yuh8946 is it ONLY him ? how about Dispatch, koreaboo, ALL korean news ... etc ... ? nice try
So an mv barbie song and video is not an opportunity? those girls area nuts
Look at the trial results. The law sided with the representative. Companies don't invest in incompetent CEOs. The representative waited for them, but Korean public opinion does not tolerate this. They gave up on success. . I was really rooting for this... but I'm disappointed.
I feel bad for the attrakt ceo hes going through some stuff 💔
I honestly hope this situation ends and both parties walk away happy atleast.
yes hope it does end soon!
This is Korea. Those girls are never working in that industry.
I hope that everyone whom still following this case to try going deeper into the the evidence bearing by the members and not falling into shallow accusation that framing them as ungrateful. Q
I knew something was wrong when the girls were fighting back their company when they havent even completed 1 yr of their debut and they didn't release their album yet.
Something was wrong bc the girls have nothing when they havent built their reputation yet.
They had things but they was resting whilst one was getting surgery. They had planned tv appearance the barbie mv and a Samsung sponsorship all cancelled all because of the law suit they bought this on themselves. Lovelyz slept all 8 members in one room on the floor for there dorm and this group say they are being treated bad? Come on they even had more space between members than I’ve did before they moved and Wonyoung and Yujin where doing loads of work etc. I do t see why they assumed they would be paid so soon. When some groups don’t see a penny for years if ever. The girls have been given good music videos, good clothes spots on music shows that no ordinary rookie from small companies get
IKR I feel like they're just being ungrateful
They are being pampered, like literally pampered.
They have lavish dorms and lavish clothes and they call it bad treatment ?
so? spacious rooms do not guarantee an appropriate treatment. it's not as if they got all the facilities for free. they worked for it. if they feel their company isn't treating them right, they shouldn't be put down for wanting a better treatment and knowing their own value. lovelyz never got as much success as fifty fifty during their whole career so there's no point in comparing them. idols shouldn't face situations like omegax and loona did just to say their companies mistreat them. if they aren't pleased with how they are treated, why do you have a problem with that? plus if they had such a hit song, they should be at least allowed to know where their company is spending the money earned by them however their company refused to say anything about it.
Not easy to debut and become a successful kpop idol. They succeeded but then became paranoid and seriously harmed their idol dreams and careers. Perhaps they are just too young and naive. Such a waste and a pity...
@@hyemster2274well Lovelyz is not a good comparison really. Let's go with Twice then. Twice probably the most successful rookie in K-Pop with 4 consecutive hits, multiple daesangs and tens of music show trophies. During all that glamorous rookie years they lived in a 3 bedroom 1 bathroom apartment. We all have seen their dorm. Quite small for 9 idols from a big agency. Did you ever heard them complain? No. Twice has been working non stop for 8 years now but their rookie years was insane, comeback every 4 months, doing commercials for more than 20 brands, variety shows left and right. Do you heard them complain? No. Jeongyeon suffers injury on her leg while filming a variety show but she still show up for every events that Twice was scheduled. Do you heard any complain from her? no. During one of their vlive, Jeongyeon casually revealed that they don't recieve their salary for a year after debut. Do you see them filing a lawsuit? No. Instead they keep going, working hard almost to the brink of exhaustion because they have passion, humbleness and love for their job. To them it's not about fame or money. And look at them now. They achieved everything any K-Pop idols could ever dream off. All of that because they endure the grueling K-Pop rookie years.
@@hyemster2274 Right. They have rights to know where the money goes. But the money thing.What you said is exact opposite of reality.
They ruined 1st album and even cupid didn't make money. Why? Most of Song profit goes to composers not the company. What members did to get real profit? Concert? NO. Advertisement attraction? Zero. Album profit? No. (Even lovelz sells 50k in one song and 5050 cupid? 20k. 20k very small amount. Right?) Any Uni festival Event? No. ( korean uni festival give hella money to groups. Popular kpop groups go so many events.) TV show? I can barely see them just on youtube.
When one member got sugery, Ceo gave all the members long vacation. While other idols work so hard to pay off, 5050 rest well. Do not even compare them to Loona.
Hmm...yeah. literally they were failed group and did nothing yet😅 CEO spend his all money to make cupid success. You know how difficult to give new group such an expensive dorm in gangman? And give them long vacation when it's the first song ever that goes well? It was first and last chance of them. They could make huge support and money after this. But they didn't. Ok? THEY DID NOT MAKE MONEY.
Even if company reveals about money there are still must be enormous debt. And members should pay for ceo not the opposite. No hate. Just facts.
And Mistreating? No one in Korea would belive that. Almost all the time company was evil but this time..
Seems like evil snake producer An deceived members and their parents.
Thank you so much explaining what the hell is going on.
glad to clear it up
This incident is something that overseas fans interested in K-POP must be aware of. 50-50 is such a traitor. The agency's CEO made sacrifices and invested all his money in making Fifty-Fifty successful. But they lied to their fans, made the CEO a very bad person, and filed a lawsuit. Their only goal was to leave a small agency and become a global agency. Their leader gave everything for the Fifty- Fifty. However, what came immediately after the success was a lawsuit to terminate the contract. This is only part of this incident. The lies they lied to the public were truly cunning and incredible. Although they are receiving completely different criticism from Koreans than before, the members do not think Korea is important. This is because there are overseas fans who do not know about this incident. So overseas fans need to know more about this incident. In addition, all of their applications for contract termination were dismissed by the court.
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Thank you Grace for putting out one of the only videos about this situation that is balanced and not immediately taking sides.
It's hard to ignore the many obvious media plays that are out there in support of the CEO and smearing the members. The fact is the girls are asking for clear explanation on the investments the company claimed to have made for the girls. They might have been influenced by adults but the fact is still the CEO is using the media to paint a negative picture of the girls while trying to make himself look like the victim while not explaining any of the concerns raised by the members.
- No explanation on where the remaining 3 billion WON investment from Interplay went to (vs the cited 6 billion supposedly spent on the members)
- No explanation on why the CEO used 2 different companies to handle the investment from Interplay and management company (Star Crew +Attrakt)
The talk about selling cars, borrowing mother's life savings and other comments to specific media (and not in courts) on top of false articles attempting to link the CEO to Sharp/Lee Ji Hye are obvious attempts by the CEO to mislead public opinion.
오늘 난 기사:인터파크의 80억 투자는 피프티 피프티가 아닌 “하성운”에게 투자한 것
This is what real media play looks like! Kpop stans are always so quick to call things media play that aren't but what this CEO has been doing clearly is and it's pretty disgusting how people are just eating it up.
If FIFTY FIFTY lost on this lawsuit, will they remain an one hit wonder
Cupid (lawsuit Ver)
A hopeless lawsuit in my life Surrounded by 3 girls all the time I guess I should take it as a sign (Oh why, oh why, oh why, oh why?)
(Ex members)
I’m feeling lonely (Lonely) Oh, I wish I’d never sued that lawsuit could ruin me (Hold me) Now, I’m crying in my room
Keena Was So skeptical of Attract m (Say what you say, but I want it more) But still, I want it more, more, more
Ex members
I gave a second chance to get a new contract signing …But now, I’m left here feeling stupid Oh, the way makes me feel That contract promise isn’t real
Suing is so dumb
I look for his lawsuit every day I guess it got lost or flew away Waiting around is a waste (Waste) Been counting the days since October Is suing as good as they say????
Now I’m so lonely (Lonely) Oh, I wish I’d find a lawyer that could hold me (Hold me) Now I’m crying in my room
Was So skeptical of money …..
Now being blacklisted is a bore bore bore (Say what you say, but I want it more) But still, I want it more, more, more
help 😭
Thank you for this because I really like those young women. I pray for recovery for 50-50.
Just how much lies did CEO Ahn implanted into them that they would've reacted so non chalantly to hearing their actual CEO sacrificing his belongings for them.
Can you pretty please do an update of this case given there are now ample evidence against Givers and the girls
Goes to show you how company’s can still take advantage of artists it’s no wonder people are staying independent more often .
Which company? There were at least SIX companies named in the formation of this group.
You mean The Givers right? That’s the one the girls siding with 😂
@@SuchaMinitraFifty fifty hasn't sided with anyone are you mentally ill
they are siding with no one, where you getting that from? They haven't said anything about the case but a lawsuit (About companies breaching their contracts and etc) and vague letters about the case...idk if that's siding a side. It is you guys siding. @@SuchaMinitra
I think because we have bad impression of companies and we Stan the idols that's why we always side with them, although I'm trying to be neutral I kinda lean towards the CEO side, I hope he'll be able to replace his loss with another group, also this is the bets video explaining the situation so far, I'm so thankful to you Grace
I know the song but didn't recognize the members yet and even momoland who hit big with thr song work hard,, it's hard to maintain that popularity knowing ur first song hit big but how can u be sure that the next one still the same and u aldry living in luxury life u feel like a famous group in big company spoiled rookie
this is what happened to another group KARA and their agency after success they had in Japan 🇯🇵.
what happened?
I stand by these Girls… I am so disappointed in so many people attacking them and spreading misinformation, lies and hate… things like this can be very complicated and while we don’t have all of the facts, I think people should wait until the courts are finished and all the evidence comes out. But for now, I stand with the Girls.
Right! The comments on their Instagram page are so disgusting. People were looking for the slightest to chance to attack the girls, it’s so misogynistic
I stand by the girls too. Blame the parents but most of all the scam artist Ahn.
I'll wait until everything is settled to form my opinion, but I can't remember the last time music industry execs were the good guys in a dispute between the artist and a label or management.
If anything, there are more than enough examples of artists getting screwed to make any artist wary.
@@LightLifeListyouve already make 10 comments about this....obsessed much?
That makes this CEO one in a million. That is why members are getting so much hate. Vanessa Lee, famous costume fabricator from Hollywood, revealed how supportive their CEO was. She declared her support for the CEO. She even went on to say she will make time for costumes for 5050 2nd generation. 2nd generation means whole new members.
@@Ken-zx4uinot obsessed. Really passed off may be. Wouldn't you be too, when you see good guy getting betrayed and ruined?
@@vashonmartAnd this is why I said I'll wait until the matter is settled, unlike people who have no direct involvement with the suit pretending that they know what's actually going on, which there seems to be no shortage of on the internet.
Lee has no dog in the fight, other than hoping to make money off of the Fifty Fifty name going forward, and unless she's directly involved in the court proceedings, her opinion is just that. Opinion. If she ends up testifying, then that's an entirely different matter. As for him being "one in a million" the members of Hot Shot didn't seem to think so, nor did Gil Hak Mi.
Especially in legal matters, it's always a good idea to remember something I learned a long time ago, "There are three sides to every story. Your side, my side, and the truth". And even then, a court ruling may note disclose the truth, but merely what the parties involved were able to settle on.
@papawoody9597 Vanessa Lee is already famous and rich. She is already well established in Hollywood. She does not need help from one hit wonder to make more money. There are tons of people more famous than 5050 that wants her to make movie or stage costumes for them. Also management company is showing records of phone conversations and text messages to the whole world to see as evidence. May be you don't pay attention, but others do. Perhaps you should find out yourself instead of dismissing others who actually took time to research on the matter.
Thanks Grace for the upload. Love the in-depty content of this channel. And you look fabulous~~
Was it Min Yoongi (SUGA / Agust D) from BTS who said that even after they became big around the world (2019? The year before their company went public?) that he / they were still in the red? Loyalty, trust, good will, and good faith. Without those, there is nothing in this world.
As much as I kinda see what fans mean by hating on Fifty Fifty since they were rookies, you gotta also remember THEY ARE ROOKIES. I also agree with you Grace that it seems like someone was in their ear and they believed them. Especially knowing how young they are. The girls are scared and got fame so fast. I don't even know how I would handle that kind of pressure.
Go read what Keena confessed, the girls there were also at fault alongside their parents and the givers ceo...
@@ssfghjgghhgrdcbbnmjgddxcggg I heard the givers and the parents forbid Sio, Saena, and Aran from meeting with keena irl to negotiate and they were excluded out of it too
And I heard someone offended keena by calling her a spy
please do an update!! so much new info came out D:
I'm so glad you explained this because I've been seeing so many people hating on the girls and calling them greedy and I didn't know why
A lot to the industry, but the track was literally produced and written by people outside of their main agency, so the agency(attrak) believing they are owed the it all is a stretch. They had no proper music to put out that would have made them a hit. Which is why he pushed so hard himself to recoup what the company had spent.
I hope the girls and ATTRAKT resolve this soon, I hope they work together again
CEO said the girls are young and he can understand and he hopes the girls can come back. Infact, he is still promoting their new song on their official page. 😭 Even though the girls are doing this to him... 😢
@@applish I see, well I'm staying neutral till everything is resolve, I'm not pointing fingers at the girls and bashing them like stupid b*tches are doing right now
Why would they want to work with such an incompetent guy again 😂
@@oliveb. You mean the legend who successfully put these lazy, entitled nobodies on the billboard charts?
@@oliveb.he is a good guy who cared for the Fifty Fifty girls who are backstabbing him now.
Support CEO!!
i love when you talk abt ur kpop days lol
me too low ke y haha
I like that she is so honest about it too, she provides great insight.
I think not everyone can handle fame and take right decisions ... As a bts fan i am happy that despite being from small company they made right decisions for themselves.. i was rooting for fiffty fiffty 😕😕 ...
Greed and stupidity. A lethal combination.
We're gonna make new laws.
We're really tired of seeing this type of idols. Look how many small good companis have got damaged by this type of idols and their lies. These girls should be called criminals someday soon and kicked out from Korean entertainmet industry forever.
Good news is every major TV news, News papers and even criminal experts are saying "This kind of cheatings must be end this year!"
Finally, people start being interested in these issues and taking it very serious.
@@user-lw6dt8tc3wWhat are you saying? Are you drunk? Go home and wash your face and get some sleep
greed and betrayal
Yey, I missed such episodes on this channel. Thank You!
Welcome back!❤
They are done for. Their greedy personality ruined their career. Their betrayal sealed their fate as a one hit wonder. They will be shortly forgotten.
I am just sad for Attrakt. All their investments, money time, and hard work, went up in smokes, thanks to greedy girls. There are talk of 5050 2nd generation with whole new members. I hope the best for 2nd generation for Attrakt 's sake.
attempting to trademark their stage name and group name do not constitute conspiracy. it was most likely a preemptive measure to claim THEIR contribution to the brand. it would avoid the situation T-ara was involved in. they had to go to court to get their name back. no one wants to go through that. it's irresponsible for "they" (you quote netizen opinion a lot) to speculate this controversy was premeditated by the girls.
Yes, agreed we need more info and from the girls! and court dates to happen
I just miss Fifty Fifty😔😢. I want an update of them. I hope they are safe and healthy. I miss seeing them. I miss Aran's bright smile. 'hope she didn't loose that smile because of this issue.
Still waiting for their comeback.💞
Same here!!!!!! Wish both sides can come to an agreement!!!
It sucks and all. But the girls should of waited out. And stuck with their company who invested so much on them. And waited for them to be big enough like Blackpink to see if they are getting paid fairly to do a lawsuit. Cause if the company did them dirty they can should get paid what they are deserved. Doing it early could of ruined their career. If they waited they would be big enough that this lawsuit wouldn’t effect them that bad
If they want to leave, that’s very fine, pay the penalty, then join whatever next.
But in this case, they did all the lying and acting, want to walk away with 0 cost of breaching the contract. The agency company done all their jobs and responsibilities, and even more, to lead the group to success. That is why the girls’ decisions was not acceptable for most people.
You ARE the perfect person to speak about this!
I don't think they're coming back to the company.. as the ceo has just deleted everything about fifty fifty from his social media accounts.
I think the first court case has alrrady happened by now? Sounds like a messy situation. I doubt the CEO is an angel, but we also can't blindly attack him without hearing his side, but it's hard to say how informed Fifty Fifty is with filing this lawsuit when they're still so new and young, but I also don't want to use that to dismiss any of their concerns. It's better to wait for the court cases to come out and more information to be revealed before picking sides.
Yea the first hearing was basically the same as what they were claiming or suing for. We shall see the evidence as it unfolds!
I really curious like which company will take fifty fifty after all this (whatever the final verdict is)? The members have history suing their previous company and also claiming copyright.
I can't believe how many people blindly believe everything the CEO says and act like there's no possible way that he's exaggerating or outright lying about the sacrifices he made for the girls. Stop being such sheep, people!
It is really shocking how people just seem to be falling for the obvious media play by this CEO.
Key facts from the trial so far:
The ceo obtained 9 billion won in advance from interpark under starcew en(which mess managed the bg hotshot)not atract and that means all profit will be directed to starcrow en . 6 billion were used for the group but a strong suspecion about where the rest of the money went, that might lead to Money laundering .
Additional informations :
a journalist is releasing 10s of articles attacking FIFTY FIFTY but he was also attacking soojin ex gidle when her allegations begun . He also wrote an article saying the ceo is the one who stood up for a female idol when she was bullied by her group , but he was the pr director who was on the company s side who did nothing to help her.
The ceo said in an interview :Honestly, I have a prickly personality. When speaking with my artists I don't hold back. I shoot viciously, telling them things they don't want to hear like "lose weight, work on your singing"
Facts revealed today: Interpark said they investigated 9bilion won for JHJ not 5050. It was company investment.
They are so young and living in such a manipulative industry. :(
The only problem with Cupid is it was more popular overseas then in Korea
Ahn's position (source: Ahn's uncle) 1) He claims to be innocent. 2) If he wins the first lawsuit, he is about to start Fifty Fifty's overseas activities (I can't deliver in detail because I don't have legal knowledge. I'm sorry.) 3) He thinks that overseas fans will not know the news coming out of Korea at all. (Ahn doesn't seem to know the communicative power of social media in the 21st century.)

I feel bad for the girls, I wish the est for Sio,Aran,Saena ❤
Guys don't forget to stream higher and cupid (korean ver.) bc Keena has writing credits on these songs !
한국인으로서 부끄럽습니다. 악행을 저지른 Fifty fifty 멤버들과 Givers 안대표가 빨리 처벌받기를 원합니다.
Você quer o que cara pálida?
I mean I understand a lot of the Kpop industry. Even the dark and shady things as well. I do feel like the girls are being manipulated and so I never knew what to do. I want things to end on good terms.
Also I heard that the parents of the members were the ones who trademarked the names, without the members knowing. But maybe even the parents are being manipulated too. Or maybe the ceo really is just being shady so the girls lost trust. I love Fifty Fifty, and I hate how people come to judge others so quickly when they don't know all the details.
I just keep my ears open and hear everything and I make my decision when I feel like I understand everything. Right now I still feel like they never should gone with this lawsuit. I wished both sides communicated and solved things immediately. Rather than the company rushing straight to social media to cause drama, and rather than Fifty Fifty and their families cutting contact with the company.
It's a business contract and like you say, it's like a divorce. So it's basically a relationship and relationships will never work if both either side is unwilling to communicate or trying to spread rumors.
Noone in Korea support them including entire kpop industry. Because its not “controversy thing”.. the details of lawsuit were disclosed and its kinda obvious that the company is in victim position please just read those statement. Its almost beyond absurd
not really, the company and ceo are too at fault. They are not victims but besides from the opposing agency. (It all started about drama in business, not cuz of the girls.)@@user-pl2bp3zr7j
It sounds good but personally I can’t get over the deeper voice when this song is originally sung in higher voices.
Correction: they're not suing that the company's not booking enough gigs for them. It's the opposite: they are complaining that they are being overworked. But the fact is that they had a grand total of 12 gigs over a span of 6 months. Disclosed text messages show that the very CEO they are suing specifically directed that their schedule be light, out of concern for their health.
Their "lawsuit" is such a joke, and with Interpark themselves coming out with a statement earlier today, even their complaint about finances has been proven to be a complete farce. People in the entertainment industry have been guarding their words until this point, but they are now openly scoffing at them.
I’m a fifty fifty stan and can confirm that our fandom was very annoyed by the lack of promotion after cupid success! Only 1 variety show, the company didn’t capitalise the success enough
It is known that the girls rejected schedules after their success, because of fatigue and sickness. And now, they revealed indictment in the court that the CEO had pushed for an unreasonable and unbearable schedules. Some Lawyers in South Korea say that in this case, the girls will pay less penalty even if they lose the case. Why? Because the profits that the company was able to obtain also decreased due to the reduced schedules. The girls' actions seem duplicitous and scheming.
Omg please look at the truth. They rejected the promo since one of them got injury. And after that they threw those chances away just to lawsuit their company even way before the break-even point. Literally noone in kpop industry support them and almost whole nation is aware of this situation in korea not supporting them over their objectively selfish statement
I feel really bad for these girls imagine what this is doing their mental health? Like how is this all effecting the members mentally? There so young some of them are still minors am I right they r very easy to manipulate and very easy to sway if the right stuff is said I don’t think the girls deserve as much hate as their getting I think most of it is other people and quite possibly there parents pulling the strings here I feel like the girls r in some state of limbo their stuck right in the middle of this I’m sure these girls don’t even know half the stuff involved in dealing with all this court and financial stuff there so young and impressionable I just hope some good comes from this the girls r talented and they have amazing songs Lovin Me is my jam of the year.
I still can’t wrap my head around the parents' decisions. I'd never, under any circumstances, let my kid go through a lawsuit without consulting multiple lawyers or something, and making sure this situation really NEEDS a lawsuit because it can’t be resolved without it. We can’t know what happens behind closed doors but so far, the lawsuit was a horrible horrible decision.
@@glowrillaz Agreed. The parents are to blame to listen to the scam artist. These are 18 yo kids who are not the scumbags people are claiming.
I saw some vids about this, but the most recent one said Fifty girl is lying. Sad to see a success new girl group with a hit songs even in Barbie movie to now not sure if they would ever get to sing as a group or by individual. EXO went to something recently about their financial and demanded S.M to show them, at the end they drop it so I guess something worked out behind the scene. The Korean entertainment court should has a law to make all companies to be transparent with their idols new or old. Similar to what Chuu is suing the Black Berry comp and many other idols.
It's true...The Korean entertainment court should has a law to make all companies to be transparent with their idols
dont worry they have already law about is call Lee Seung-gi Crisis Prevention Act
Hopefully they won't lose their group name, the brand coz that might the most important thing. But if that happened I hope they could be able to use similar names that fans can easily recognize, like `Forty Forty or Sixty Sixty `, not something too far off! Wish them best :)
Or maybe Fifty Fifteen or Fifteen Fifty or change it to numbers: 50/50
Or 20/20 ("perfect" vision)
I won’t mind if they wanna throw in some fractions 1/2 1/2half or 1/4 1/4 a quarter! Some math concept! :)
The group is nothing special, the song is. Why the CEO would want to keep working and investing in ungrateful people that even sue him? Imagine the vibes in that office, makes no sense at all, so I guess Fifty is pretty much doomed.
7:30 Oh wow, I've _never_ heard this before! That's crazy.
the girls are being easily manipulated and gaslighted, for the most, I just hope they find peace and continue making music i really love them and they are young for all this drama💔
I feel like fifty fifty members has little information on how the industry works since they are easily manipulated by whoever is behind asking them to sue their company and also their complaints is too much, they came from a small company, BTS had it worst during their debut days. Their company tried its best to accommodate them. Some kpop idols that has been in the industry for years has not received their first salary, their popularity might even just a one hit wonder, they're like a spoiled brat acting up.
Unlike Fifty Fifty, BTS had no trainee debt according to Bang so I'm not sure why you're using them as a comparison to this group.
@@oliveb.since when did I say BTS has debt? Ofcourse I'll compare them to BTS because they were both from a small company but the difference is that BTS would never do this to Bighit
@@angelmin4053 your comparison makes no sense because you actually have no idea what either of these groups have experienced behind the scenes in real life outside of what they have chosen to share publicly. Why do people always feel the need to bring BTS into every kpop conversation? Being from a small company doesn't make their experiences anywhere near the same.
And you have no idea what
BTS would have done if they were in the same situation and experiencing what these girls have experienced since you don't know BTS like that. You act as if you are in their heads or something
@@oliveb. ofcourse there's no way I'll know everything behind but I know BTS base on their personality and all this years that they are popular they stay the same humble and hardworking. Why are you so triggered, you all cant accept the fact fifty fifty made a wrong decision? Those rumors about them having luxury that other kpop idols could never have and yet they are already asking for company's receipt because of their one hit wonder song? Their other mvs doesnt even make a sound
They are overwork or underwork? Haha please they dont have a strong proof about that.
sad a group have had positive future is going through this ... they are so talented
They brought it on thenselves.
@@user-pl2bp3zr7jexactly, people are trying to make them seem innocent. Karma slapped them down.
The artist Gil Hak-mi who was previously under Oscar entertainment, a past company that the ceo made, made a story showing support of the members. They said “My poor girls… I also wanted ti, so i understand your feelings. People dont know unless they are directly involved.” Ahhhh i just hope everything goes well!!!!
Well did you read her next post from the instagram she said she did not mean to defend the girls or attack the CEO. She just literally meant “I know how it Would be hard to keep walking to where you were going when you lose the faith” that’s it. Gil Hak me corrected it. Also, people spoke up for the CEO they brought the evidence more in details. I donno if the foreign Kpop new writers mentioned about ex idol The rush Kim Min Hee’s testimony. She is a mom now and it would not be so easy for her to come out to media and give her testimony. She is getting attacked by the haters of the blinded girls fans. That is how much she is willing to speak up for the CEO. But what about Gil Hak Mi? She gave her words too easily and confused the public, fans and did not even provide any relevant evidence compare to the witnesses who spoke up for the CEO. I really hope the fans from the abroad are updated to the most recent news and recognize that there were so many evidences provided from CEO side but not from girls (well I understand they are in fear now) and the Givers side ( I see he is the main vilian here with all his past records of snatching the singer and the actor from the other company with the exact same way)
You are distorting the truth. The artists who worked with the CEO in the past are supporting him. They all praise the CEO's integrity. Gil Hak-mi stated that she did not support Fifty Fifty.
@@Whitepinkkkk ahhh i’m sorry i didn’t know 😭!!! i haven’t been online in some time and haven’t seen that update!! i’ll delete this thank you for correcting me!!!
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@@user-ek2se1xs1yaver mira ora que salió el episodio/documentaría, ya se ben ustedes como pendejos jajaja. El ingles no es mi primer lenguaje entonces no tengo muchos recursos especialmente por que mucha info esta en ingles y en koreano, pero damn. Vete a la chingada cara de culo jajaja. Ahora ya se ven como estupidos por defendiendo abusadores. La compania estaban motorienando a las ninas 24/7, no le daban suficiente comida, y la dieta que tenían era pechuga de pollo y cafe de mantequilla, y después salió el video de personas que trabajan en los givers y trabajodores de attrakt tirando la comida que le dieron sus padres, gritándolas , y haciéndolas que recojen la comida. Ya se ven como pendejos defendiendo estos abusadores pero ay pero como dijo mi madre,los pendejos que tienen la carra de buró van a creer mentiras si? Vete a tu casa a chingar tu madre guey😂🤣
I feel horrible for the CEO. He spent 8 million to get Fifty Fifty up and running. He sold his Rolex, used his mothers life savings. They got one on one lessons and a big apartment. I know that it probably wasn’t solely the girls choice, that there was probably some stuff behind the scenes, but this CEO sounds ten times better than some CEOs I’ve heard of before.
aren't those literally confirmed to be just made up for sob stories 💀💀
@@sangyeoncupids4662these are all true info. The CEO got betrayed by these girls
I’m not super duper invested in the Fifty Fifty controversy, so I’m not sure
@@Rieah-y3usource: dude trust me
so you can write all of that for people to feel empathy for the CEO, but cant even research the facts? 💀@@TheBeanBurrito