FORESIGHT
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- in the 11.0 patch, Pyra and Mythra were added to Smash Ultimate. In this 11.0.0 update, Mythra has a technique called Foresight. Foresight is broken and needs to be fixed. In this video, GimR explains all of the stupid things you can do with Foresight in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. Foresight is like Bats Within mixed with Witch Time. This is Smash 4 Bayo all over again.
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So...what do y'all think of foresight so far?
Cracked as hell
i can barely activate it 😎
Bayonetta but bigger boobs
Its broken
Funny witch time
"Nuh-uh" is a pretty accurate comment for this move.
Nuh-uh
It makes me irrationally angry everytime she says it.
it matches her really well lol
No u
Nuh uh is pretty accurate but what about Guh Huh?
Its funny how Pyra became just kill button.
I literally only switch to pyra for the up b and side b... she is just so fucking slow that neutral becomes impossible
She also was a kill button
Hey, that's better then she gets in her own game where mythra outclasses her in absolutely everything
@@Jairjax she ain't THAT slow
and to be honest her spike is fucking huge (also she does like 4 times the damage Mythra does whit one move)
Edit: actually she is slow af
@@mohamedbelbaali659 Thats why they called her a kill button, because you change to her for the kill since she does the most damage.
What if you wanted to throw out a safe aerial, but Mythra said,
_Nuh uh_
Lol
What if you wanted to say Nuh uh,
But Banjo said GUH HUH
ruclips.net/video/8vrvVrc1psU/видео.html
@@monochromemann8000 lmfao made me laugh
What if you wanted to change the meta, but Gimr said UH OH
"it's like bats within and witch time"
me: bats witchin
within time
bitch time
@@lopsided4623 lmaoooo plss
bat time
@@lopsided4623 bitch with time
"Ultra Instinct sword woman invalidates every other swordie"
You mean every other character regardless of sword
@@judge81 Idk about all that, but I think she might be the best swordie honestly.
couldn't have said it better
I got owned by an elite mytra that managed to pull foresight most of the time i landed a hit as dedede
I wish the hammer was just as fast as pyra's f smash
@@peluquin98 My condolences but you simply didn't have the power of god and anime on your side
I love Mythra (unrelated to Foresight) from just general movement/combat. What situations/matchups do you think Foresight is best in?
Yeah, I honestly think just foresight is the problem, everything else is pretty cool. I think situations where buffering it always gets it is best. Like with multhit moves or if someone's oos option lines up perfectly to set it off after you hit their shield. Also, obviously, getting it off a neutral air dodge and being able to just react.
On the surface, it looks like it should have its biggest effect on characters with typically good frame advantage on their normals, more or less regardless of range
The meeting of the minds 👀
M2K likes Mythra in other ways too 😳😏😬
@@gargantuangerm7415 looks aside they're very good
Fitting, since Foresight in XC2 is so busted. You literally become unhittable with the right set ups.
Fitting, since Bat Within in the Bayonetta games is busted. You get rewarded with Witch Time no matter what frame you slip up your dodge on.
Wait, no it doesnt in smash.
This is a button mashers wet dream/ nightmare.
You mean wet nightmare ? Wait.... is it only me that frequently got wet nightmare ?
@@aratabhist What a coincidence. I've never had a wet dream or a nightmare.
@@aratabhist yo what 😭😅😅
Grabbing Mythra seems like a pretty good option if she tries to preemptively do Foresight. It makes her spot dodge like, frame 7.
Yea, and her roll is also quite slow too, if she was trying to get outside of grab reach at that time you might be able to trap her again after whiffing your grab.
This
Frame 2 jab
I think captain falcon can combo up air into up special
I wish the parry window was a similar size to Mythra’s foresight. I wonder how that would change things. I feel the whole purpose of adding parrying to ultimate was to reduce mashing. But it doesn’t usually work since so many moves are safe on parry when spaced. Having a larger window to get a hard punish would be a lot better and would make getting a parry actually feel rewarding
Couldn’t agree more
I think in some situations that would be true, but I think it would also break some fighters. For example Ganon has very slow and predictable moves that are basically never safe on shield, and he would not be able to play anymore with a huge parry window. I agree that against some fighters like cloud, buffed parry could be cool, but it would absolutely nullify fighters that don't fit into that category of safe on parry. Marcina would drop at least one tier imo and some fighters who can get ridiculous punishes off of parries (Puff for example) would get too gimmicky.
Also Mythra foresight is frames 2-6 and parry is frames 1-5? So unless you mean that parries should activate witch time I think the window is the same size? Except you know parry is frame one instead of two. Could be wrong but yeah.
I may be the only one when I say this, but the meta would be super boring. Everyone would just bait punishes thing with parries...
I think the parry system is fine the way it is. You should get rewarded for spacing an aerial with low cooldown. Spacing generally takes more precision and time than randomly rising fair in nuetral. It would be lame for the party system to be able to punish that. At that point, anybody can just lose a stock to any player who manage to parry a fully spaced bair on shield.
Id say the only character where parrying doesn't feel satisfying is sonic
Have you tried to parry punish his side b? Mario up smash cant do it. And that move is fast. He moves so fast you literally cannot punish with most if any moves...maybe diddy up smash or charizard up smash but you get the point.
Also i agree with making the parry window bigger so you can actually punish consistently without running in for a grab or straight up never punishing due to only having 2(?)frame advantage.
So it’s basically blue Roman cancel in a game with no meter. Nice
It seems more like sfv v-shift
*That is bullshit (swaps to Pyra) blaaazing*
@@jorntumrongwit9056 lol
@@jorntumrongwit9056 best reply.
Yeah the v shift comprision is a lot more accurate that the roman cancel one that being said please put sol badguy in smash
Anytime you see a clip starting off being zoomed in on a character's percentage you know some Bullshit's about to go down
Remember: Sakurai did mention that they will do necessary adjustments if Foresight is considered too good.
Did he? I don’t remember much from that presentation, but hopefully you’re right. The team’s done a good job with balance so far, and I don’t want them to drop the ball now, especially for these two.
He said more about the I-frames of neutral B
He needs to do a lot more than just adjust her foresight, lol.
This aged well
Well, has he?!
I'm pretty sure this character has yet to be completely balanced.
all they need is a ladder combo
Bro i literally struggleso much vs them online, reminds me of bayo smash 4
this whole game feels early access sometimes lol
They're not that scary
@@roykooper902
They’ve been out for 2 days, of course they aren’t going to be that scary this early on.
Fits her character. She's one of the best, if not the best, dodge tanks in XC2
I believe she's an attacker blade, not tank but definitely one of the best, so much so that they nerfed her in Torna DLC lol.
@@outseteddy6306 her skill tacks on 50% evasion for her and the whole party so you can slap on mad evasion on rex and become unkillable.
Plus her third spoilery form has like the highest defense values in the game.
Mythra isn't a dodge tank. She has high evasion but she's an attacker. She also has one of the lowest defenses in the game.
@@noponarchsage7360 ruclips.net/video/I8QgISKL3Yw/видео.html
And mythra has some of the lowest defense values but her third form again has the highest value in the game
@@yukotrey9422 I know what you mean but it's only limited, so it's not worthy of a tank though her form is very much tank-like for the instant aggro switch.
If they change nothing else bc it's working as intended, they should probably make sure it doesn't do that weird lingering activation after the roll buffer lmao. They put a lot of emphasis on punishing people for repeatedly using defensive options like that, so that part is almost certainly not what they meant for it to do.
Thing is, Bats Within should work like Foresight based off Bayo's own game, find it weird they made Foresight like this for Ultimate when Bayonetta doesn't have this mechanic.
Agreed. At this point with the overnerfs that bayo got and the petty almost useless buffs, I doubt it was to balance her out, it feels more like some sort of punishment lol
nah it's just because they wanted to do everything possible to keep bayo lowtier after what happened in smash 4 without completely removing any mechanics, and bat within was definitely part of what made smash 4 bayo so busted.
@@MuteSpectre Which is strange considering they've kept Fox and Pikachu consistent over their life period. Sometimes not the best, but def. not less than a mid tier.
@@XC11301991 It's the difference between a character being consistently high tier and pre-patch (and even post patch) smash 4 bayo being one of the most overpowered fighting game characters to ever exist in a platform fighter. There's even a precedent with what happened to Kirby after he was the definitively best character in Smash 64. (though he was nowhere near bayo levels) I think it's especially that Bayo's whole design philosophy lends to her being extremely strong, so they just killed everything about her to be safe. Not the ideal solution but one I fully understand.
@@MuteSpectre Correcting you on the 64 part, Kirby is not the best, Pikachu holds that place.
mfw Foresight + Dash Attack looks like what would be the fixed version of Shulk's neutral ground Vision.
But it's waifu, so they had to make it Shulk-Onetta, that can transform into GanonCloud.
...What do you mean, "makes a third of the roster obsolete"?
@@qwormuli77 my issue with pyra/mythra is that they're so faithful to their games, whereas shulk not so much. tldr pyra too good
@@sonjaa.martin6269 Maybe it's the people I've been going against, but in my experience so far Shulk counters them quite well actually
@@weaboi1461 Makes sense, even if Mythra foresights Shulk's monado is massively disjointed
Roman Cancel in the form of a roll/sidestep/airdodge? So V-Shift
Foresight actually looks like v shift
So, basically Mythra has SFV V-Shift.
lmao this.
it functions almost exactly the same.
Yeah except vshift can’t punish jabs in sf5 but foresight can punish jabs in ultimate, so its actually stronger, on top of not taking resources to use and being usable in blockstun
Thank you Dark souls
Finally a Broken opponent our battle will be legendary!
Yeah! Give it to 'em, Mac! Show 'em what's Up Smashin'!
cringe
Dude don't do it it's not worth it
I don't think you can recover from this fight...
@@luno8009 y'all keep on forgetting he stronger on ground
This is how parrying was supposed to be
As an unfortunate Ness once said way back in Smash 4, "Not okay."
You describe Foresight as Bat Within mixed with Witch Time, but it is actually possible to get both at once as Bayonetta since the activation windows overlap
You mean you down and b, then there like a frame window where both of them activate? That's bad right?
@@JustHANO Yes like that, it's bad because the Witch Time duration is shortened when it happens and you still take damage, but it is possible
Wait, what? Post video of it
Sakurai actually told in an interview they intended this mixture of Bat Within mixed with Witch Time for Bayonetta's dodges in Smash4 but scrapped the idea because it was too strong. They deinitely used that idea for Mythra's Foresight.
Sakurai actually told in an interview they intended this mixture of Bat Within mixed with Witch Time for Bayonetta's dodges in Smash4 but scrapped the idea because it was too strong. They deinitely used that idea for Mythra's Foresight
I thought UI Goku just got some nerfs though in the latest DBF patch. Oh, this is Ultimate.
Dang it man you must've reminded arcsys they nerfed his 22s, 2H and 214H
Oh. It's like BROKEN broken.
What? No.
@@Nekotaku_TV You can fmash punish a parried multihit. That is not balanced.
@@Tonjit41 Yeah man this is like Brawl Meta Knight Smash 4 Bayo broken. I'm labbing this character not cause I want to because I have to since it invalidates the rest of the entire cast.
@@judge81 It usually takes me a while to get used to playing a new character, but mashing is a legitimate win condition.
@@Tonjit41 I replied to Mew2Kings comment with the details, this is exactly true.
Considering how bad grabs are and how easily and fast people can mash out a shield/roll/spotdodge, this is going to be an extremely obnoxious mechanic.
Well one thing is for sure if anything gets nerfed on this character it's going to be foresight lol
I hope so but I have this inkling feeling that maybe, just maybe they'll instead look to nerf her up-b's flying projectile damage before that. Why? There's no reason why.
@@dddmemaybe I remember back in Smash 4
Sakurai: Better nerf Greninja, just to be safe
People will probably figure out the counter play soon enough.
Although the lingering foresight window after rolling back seems glitched and will probably be patched..
@@k-leb4671 If the only counterplay to a move is to wait for her to punish you , there is no counterplay.
Your only punish option is to grab, which her frame 2 jab basically always punishes for free.
Your only other option is to jump or run, meaning there is no punish.
@@k-leb4671 If it takes a while for there to be any players who know how to counter the move, the move is broken. You shouldn't have to watch videos or read guides to learn how to deal with one move that takes no skill to use.
I wasn't aware of the five extra frames of lag on rolls and spot dodges. Rather, I wasn't consciously aware of it. I could feel I was having a harder time moving afterwards, but I wasn't clear on why. That makes sense
They say this about every DLC fighter
Except the fact that this is *literally* broken and not just really good
@@What_QuestionMark Not really. Also thats not how you use the word literally
@@bob171 Alright. How do I use it then ?
@@bob171 Also, the fact that you're ignoring my point and attack my grammar instead only shows your lack of credibility
@@What_QuestionMark Then let me ask you, what makes Pyra more broken than any other fighter in the game?
Gimr is really out here suggesting people spotdodge after an unsafe move like that isn’t 90% of the playerbase lol
If my favourite character in all of smash history turns into Bayo pt.2 I'ma kms
What if you were about to enter Heaven, but Mythra said, "NUH UH"
been tellin people this and they don't believe me, but mythra and pyra WILL be considered the best character and people will bitch for nerfs, just wait
Will be considered the best character without being it. And yes, people will beg for nerfs. That will cease a few months.
@@impossiblehanley2732 Dude, mythra literally has a better bats within mechanic
@@daridon2483 And? Like how hero had a move that insta kills? Like how banjo had an invincible move? Like how sephiroth had a attack that covered everything? Like how byleth had a move that killed super early and ate shields? Everyone has been saying that every dlc is broken and it turns out they aren't. It's clear that the community can't decide what's op because they thought the only true op dlc was bad.
@@impossiblehanley2732 And then what about joker?
@@daridon2483 You meant the character y'all called bad that turned to be OP? That further confirms my statement.
People who haven’t played XC2:
Mythra: *”You will recall our names”*
Would it it be "learn?"
Who's Mythra? Never heard of her...
Tbh on paper it's crazy but I don't think it's that crazy and even if it was, it teaches people to not be mashy
But it doesn't punish the Mythra player for being mashy. Can't have it only one way.
Except it covers her for *any* given reason. Even if you aren't mashy. Shes faster than half the cast, so characters with anything slower than her is at a hard disadvantage.
She's even out of shield foresight Terry's jab. Yo a *jab* , lol. This character is not slow enough or weak enough to be given this level of advantage.
i love it, its so fun for me as a casual player with friends since im not really trying to activate it and when it does happen its usually just a big pog moment.
1:18 Ummmm, what happened to Luigi? Did he die and not die at the same time?
This pretty much reminds me of the UI Goku problem in DBFZ
wake up babe new gimr
Damn i have been staying too long awake this is the first time i see GimR upload
"Uh oh, back to the lab again, we messed up, back to the lab again"
1:25 ok that’s just disrespectful lmao.
Us Ryu players can catch a break...
Attack canceling also makes it so even when she whiffs spotdodge, she can still threaten a quick tilt and jab on the opponent
Mythra can’t do attack cancels. Gimr checked on stream.
@@chordalharmony Shoot
@@laffy7204 I say thank goodness
Aside from foresight, I think being able to put people disadvantage as mythra, then switching to pyra to get a big hit is really strong. I'll up air or utilt switch to pyra when they can only airdodge or jump and get 'em with a uair. Another cool application is if you send someone barely off stage as mythra, a lot of the time they'll just double jump back on and you can switch to pyra and call it out with side b.
Smash Community: This character is BROKEN!
Non Smash Players: Smash Community this is the 9th character in a row you've called broken.
Yeah but they're broken af
This is the one time out of all dlc characters that the “broken” thumbnail is actually justified 😅
Well, I mean, Joker is still considered the best character.
I mean, Ultimate is almost done with DLC. They had to make sure to introduce Ultimate's Bayo before it was too late.
I wonder if it will get more broken than this
@@ricl7742 what could possibly be more broken than this?
@@anthonyalston3407 Brawl Meta Knight
@@ShinyMew76 fuck your right
@@ShinyMew76 Meta Knight mega buffs next patch bois, brace yourselves
This is like terry's auto up-tilt after a spotdodge, but way better
The thumbnail accurately shows how creepy this tech is.
That image oh god
Why does mythra look like a fish when she special falls?! 🤣
Now I can't unsee that, argh.😂
I always thought that looked goofy lol
She looks like she is skydiving
@@duragdee2760 haha gotteeeem
1:35 So satisfying seeing a pikachu Nair getting punished
That's what i like to see fast af high-reward it's a mix if i miss anyway Panic options with theoretical counterplay
If foresight doesn't proc off of grabs, wouldn't that be the play during neutral? You empty hop/ shmix up or whatever and go for a grab instead of an attack, and if they try to foresight an attack then the extra frames on rolls and spot dodge become punishable no? Ofc not every character would be able to do this because of end lag and what not, but just a what if.
@@r4tl_ Ah, that's understandable. I just thought of it from a traditional fighting game standpoint since in some games only a few characters have DPs so you handle them differently in neutral, and you shouldn't always be approaching with an attack in Smash anyways. I also thought of it as Cloud/Marth up B out of shield (except it's more ruthless) as well, where - sure - you can poke with a super safe attack but you're still getting punished for doing so because of those moves. My knowledge is pretty much limited to online play right now since I haven't been following the competitive scene lately after all the stuff that happened, so I'm thinking about this in a situation where you have input delay and you won't be as consistent with Mythra foresights.
I dont play smash anymore but your vids are fun to watch
See GimR has a mythra video out. "Oh no what did he find?" 😱
Good work Esam, love the content
I think it's good, REALLY good compared to everyone else's roll, but I don't think it makes Mythra/Pyra broken. Getting free kills from switching still seems pretty situational, and if you start reaching for it, your opponent should be able to adapt.
The fact that Mythra has a sh!t ton of great advantages like Foresight and fast framedata and very few downside like recovery is what makes them OP.
The witch is back.
Don't worry guys this isn't even the final DLC character. 2 more to go !
Yeah, you probably said that about the other DLC.
Hello everyone, peter griffin is here to explain the joke. The user "Versen H." said that "The witch is back" on a video talking about an overpowered part of a Smash Bros character, otherwise known as Mythra. Mythra's foresight ability is very similar to Bayonetta's bat within ability, except foresight is more powerful. Bayonetta was also more powerful back in her debut game, that being Smash Bros for the Wii U. The phrase "The witch is back" is a nod to how powerful Bayonetta was back in Smash Bros 4, since Bayonetta is a witch, and while she may have gotten heavily nerfed on the release of Smash Bros Ultimate, Mythra carrying a similar ability to Bayonetta's thats much more powerful is something that may remind players of Bayonetta. This is why "The witch is back" is a terrifying phrase meant to joke about how there's another S tier character in Smash Bros that's very similar to Bayonetta.
@@versenh.1982 Thank you, gentleman.
"Only the results remain"
-Mythravolo
Man I'm glad I saw this. My controller is breaking down and I thought it was that (or something I was doing wrong) why Mythra wouldn't act out of rolls as fast as I thought she should. Turns out it's just a foresight check.
Oh here we go lads. Was waiting on some spicy tech!
Same here brother/sister, gimr always comes through
How to do Spicy Tech:
Step One: Press ZL
Step Two: Hold a directional position
Congrats you've unlocked Smash 4
Sword players really think airdodging is "Spicy tech"
Hmm I think bat within needs a buff.
Incorrect
No
Give it witch time or let her do something out of it.
Rex: "Hey Mythra! If you win in this next Smash tournament, I'll make you your favourite Cloud Sea Crab Sticks when you get home!
Mythra:
not only is this a really good video, but i really like the thumbnail. it looks so nice
Didn't know FitMC played Smash
Why are you referencing Fit? What is there to compare?
@@ShinyMew76 Baldness
@@mathunit1 Oh, ok I understand now
THE OLDEST ANARCHY SERVER IN MINECRAFT
King Crimson!
Nobody understands how King Crimson works. I barely understand how Foresight works now.
@@demarcjohnson It just works
Thank god the thumbnail was changed, the last one was actually terrifying
Gimr I made so.e new tech well sorta so ya know pyra side b? Well if you do it right close to an opponent you can footstool them and jab lock to up B the windows a bit tight but with peactice its super easy to do as for mythra for bigger chacters are better try down tilt to footstool or reverse up air to footstool or EVEN down throw to footstool
This gives me serious DBFZ UI Goku vibes. Too much defensive power can lead to ridiculousness.
Seeing a wifi samus throw a random projectile from mid stage and punishing with a forward smash is SO GOOD
That thumbnail is bone chilling, bro.
The way Foresight works is quite accurate to how it’s in Xenoblade 2;
Enabling Mythra to counter anything she’s fast enough to punish.
So I am guessing that this is all intended.
My approach to nerfing this would be either taking full damage or getting knockback if Mythra has too much damage.
all i see is that this will punish mashers even harder, which might make them use a bit more of their brain before pressing a button
Super ironic considering were talking about someone like Mythra. She gets rewarded for simply pressing buttons like a brain dead chimp all day, lol.
@@BakiX takes a masher to counter one
*2 frame OOS Pyra F-Smash*
mythra:fast
sonic:*visible frusturation*
"Nuh-uh"
-Mythra, 2021
High tier users: learn the matchup.
Just don't get hit
-Some high tier main-
Oh so literally bayonetta with a sword and a kill button, makes sense
ah yes, V-Shift is in the game now.
Sakurai:...... [long exhale through nose]
If she freezes after foresight, then what's the unique part of the move? It'll just be a parry where you take damage, plus would her roll and spotdodge still have extra punish frames at the end?
I'm pretty sure the way it is was intended.
Wait so two dlc characters are released back to back one from ff and is good but as some counters and the other from a once obscure franchise until Nintendo made the sequal a new console launch title history is repeating its self
Shit lmao...
First of all loved your videos, very educational. I think a good video idea is for the Wii fit "shadow buff" I have no idea what that means, it's like side b ends 5 frames faster. MK b meta
oh really?
So the Dev team was like: hey since we're nerfing the top tier, let's create another tier above it!
Any ridley mains? Find this match to be impossible??? ☹️😟
I find I get punish for existing. 🤣🤣🤣
To be fair, I’d say it’s not just Ridley
I found it pretty easy, but to be fair I'm hardly a Ridley main and a lot of the Mythra/Pyra players I fought were still pretty new with her.
1) punish Photon Edge with your side smash if they're bad enough that they spam it in neutral
2) use your neutral B breath to gimp them offstage since their recovery sucks
Man you can't be telling people this stuff lol
In other words, mythra may get the same treatment like arc system gave to gogeta in fighterz . I want to bet how much time will be before the competitive side scream broken and demmand fix because I like what arc system did in that dept.
Thumbnail: "What a sight, a Foresight.
How did they nerf Bayonetta to the ground and then do this what
I predict the Bayo patch next time.
They had to slap her on the wrist for ruining the previous game.
Decrease startup lag and end lag of witch time, and make bat within useful for more than a get-off-me tool.
I think people need to chill out and play the character more if people can learn to do this consistently without issue in tournaments then sure its broken but I don't see this being used like that in an actual match the storing part that's clearly a bug and needs to be fixed but the mechanic itself does not look consistent enough its gonna be like the other infinite loops and 0-deaths we already have in this game and almost never be seen is my guess but hey prove me wrong and I will agree it needs a change
Not consistent my ass. It's fucking easy as shit to do on multi-hitting moves. XD
I mean the counterplay to Foresight really isn't much different than the counterplay to spotdodge universally. Also trying to fish for Foresight is a gamble as opposed to using Mythra's superior mobility to just avoid situations where you can get hit at all.
Foresight is broken against predictable multihits yes. Trying to actually use it in the other contexts you suggested I don't think is as broken as you're implying.
gimr with the foresight
It's gonna be a mess once offline comes back, can't wait hehehe
Where did it go?
@@thndr_5468 to the wuflu gulag
Get up attack literally invalidates this lol
No it doesn’t. Infact, given how slow most get up attacks are, Mythra’s vision is strongest against get up attack. In this game, get up attack is invincible on start up...but a ton of vulnerability at the end of it.
That ledge option loses to normal shielding. You can just grab out of shield to punish. How much more unsafe do you think it’ll be against vision?
Frick, get up attack loses to counters, one of the worst options you can do to when the opponent is hanging on the ledge. Reserved *only* for hard reads. How is it invalidating vision; a move that acts as dodge, but gets the benefits of 2 special moves??
@@tinyt.w.i.m7291 Get up Attack is a joke on this channel.
@@GreyVictory1510 Except CALEB said literally, so I think he's not joking.
@@mathunit1 Poes law
@@GreyVictory1510 well, had me fooled, geez now i feel like a jerk
This felt like a slap in the face to bayo mains it just felt like they ripped the last cool unique thing bayo could do, made it better, and gave it to another character. I think sakurai even said he intended to use this for bayo but didn’t for some reason...
Mashers greatest fear