iPhone 12 - Deleting the Notch
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It’s been three generations and almost as many years, and not only hasn’t the notch gone away, it hasn’t gotten any narrower or shallower. Not one bit. And some people, well, they still hate its breathing guts. If you’re one of them, throw a like down below and be counted.
But, could the #iPhone12, the iPhone 13, any future iPhone really, do anything at all to lessen that pain?
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I’ve hated the notch since it was first released on the iPhone X and that’s why I still have an iPhone 7. I waited so long for the launch of the iPhone 12 but the second I saw it still has the notch I wanted to scream. Apple has lost my business for another year.
You could buy iPhone SE 2020 or Google Pixel 5.
@Le Crossant connoisseur 354 just get a S10, still better than the 11pro
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti they want IOS i guess, i want it too but ill just get the Samsung S20 its just the better phone, iPhone front was outdated when it was released back in 2018, so i dont want an already outdated design for 2-3 years, and don't get me started on the 60hz iphone display
I just wet from an iPhone 6s Plus to an iPhone 12 Pro Max it’s an incredible experience 😂 I don’t really mind the notch it’s such a minor feature you won’t even notice after a few day’s. The only thing that annoys me is that I have to swipe down to see the battery percentage 😑
How can they brag about the screen size when you can’t even see the full screen?
I won't switch back to iphone until that notch is gone
In the next decade or so, Apple engineers will frustrate over edge to edge displays, eventually making an iPhone with no display at all.
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I’m one of those, who doesn’t like the notch
Derisnel Hernández How do you even notice it? It just stops existing by day 2 to me
me too!
With the amounts of capital thrown into R&D, Apple should have come with 10...20 better alternatives by now
It's unfortunate since it ruins bright wallpapers
No one likes it ww just don't have the tech to delete it right now
I hate it. It’s FREAKING 2020 !!!!
update the iphone 12 came out and it’s pretty much the same
@@sebastiantaylor2896 exactly the same I’m not upgrading until my phone has no notch. Not upgrading from my iPhone 11 Pro Max
Same bro, that's why I don't rock I phone. I think Samsung way ahead In design. it's 2020/2021 like get with the times Apple...
@@ryanherrera6357 Samsung is shit as well hole punch screen looks ass.
Pop up camera is the way
@@epicswirl By the time you need to upgrade your iPhone 11 Pro Max, the notch will probably be gone or at least mostly gone.
I've never heard of any OnePlus pop-up camera that failed
Never seen a pop up camera in the wild.
I've never had any issue with mine
@@TKO593 that's the point. Few manufacturers dare to produce phones with pop-ups because the public fear that will break easily
Henriko Magnifico mechanical parts fail with time. Most. I had fails with a couple of iPhone home buttons. That’s why top brands don’t go with moving parts. Also losing water and dust resistance
Had my 7 pro a year and I've never had an issue with it
I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to 2017 as "aught-seventeen"
I legit don’t notice it there. I don’t know if I care enough for this to be a thing
youll notice if you've ever used a full screen(aka bezel-less, not those forehead and chin og iphones) phone b4
I still notice it sometimes I just got used to it so it doesnt bother me. But getting rid of it would be great in the future
rrobertt13 the thing is, for certain games and such, important info gets hidden beneath the notch or the hole, and you cant reduce screen size to view it. at least if it was a hole, you can see most of it, but if its a notch, and if its so massive, youre done.
You don't notice them in your normal vertical day to day app use. Try watching a full screen video. You'll notice it very quickly
Even when you watch a show/movie?
it's literally the single reason which hold me back from ever considering buying anyone of those apple phones
I just want touch ID on the newer models...coming from a 6s Plus, that is something I will certainly miss next to 3D touch.
Always love your videos Rene! Hoping we get to notchless someday
You can wait for iphone 20. By then should be selling both of your livers to get it
When I upgraded from the iPhone 7 Plus to the 11 last year that notch was really noticeable. I was used to big bezels and all of the notification icons at the top. Specifically the battery percentage. I wouldn't mind a notchless screen.
"Lidless eyes, writhed in OLED." Bravo, Rene, you're hilarious.
I don’t really see or mind the notch. Until there’s the right technology, they’ll keep it and reduce it when possible.
PS: You’re king of sponsor transitions
Not many apps support it
Technology? I think apple is very backward in innovating! See those Chinese brands which are working on hidden camera under the display?
The technology!!?? Really? Literately all other phones do not have any notches or has a tiny drop for a camera. The technology has been around for yers. They just don't care about innovation and breaking boundaries
android got rid of the notch 10years ago
The right technology is already there. Basically all new androids are notch-less and just play about with the front camera (middle or side) and it looks so much better. They should have gotten rid of it for the iPhone 12 rather than do an entire spectacle over the charger being in the box
Your videos are "top notch!" no pun intended! hehe. Good stuff Rene, you should make a video on how you do your videos or how is your creative, writing process!. Maybe you already have it, just started watching. Cheers!
I'm completely fine with designs like the Pixel 4 where they have a larger "forehead" instead of a notch. It's just better than having your screen-space interrupted.
My galaxy a20 does not need a big notch to read face ID.
samsung phones don’t have face id...
Hey man I really respect that last video you made . Damn near teared up. Thank you for using your platform in addressing the issues that haunt us. It really meant a lot to see you do that . You have so much respect from me. Much love bro ✊🏾
Im fine with a Notch or No Notch.
Galaxy you sound like an adult ☺️
Tbh. I loved the notch. I'm. Not apple fan but. They had the best looking notch tbh.
Does anyone think about having a case How would Touch ID work on the back or on the power button if it is blocked with the case
I’m not fine with it, I won’t be upgrading till’ the notch is gone
I love notches
The lesson to take from this: Apple's solutions are generally the best ones out of every solution that comes out of the market if you think on how they each solve them for a while
I'll take Samsung's punch-hole design anyday of the week over the hideous notch on the iPhone 10s and 11s. Plus, samsung is going to put the front facing camera under the display on the S21 so you'll ever see the camera unless you break the screen while the camera itself will function perfectly fine. Samsung just does it better sometimes aswell while Apple also can do it better sometimes. I'll stick with my Note 10+ until the Fold 2 comes out. Until Apple's iOS is similar to Android I'm not touching any iPhones.
You couldn’t be any more wrong. Apple SUCKS the most of all companies. Other companies have already solved the notch issue by allowing you to go notchless and therefore not stealing 20% of the video as seen above. Apple fan bois make me sick.
i hate notch and punch hole cameras with all my strength
until the notch is removed i wont buy iphone
Under the display is the most ideal. I hope we get surprised with no notch for 12 or maybe 13. I still have an X and I want my next upgrade to be notchless
The notch is only an issue in video playback (games not so much; most games just design around the notch anyways). And even the video playback is a non issue as long as you properly employ black bars on the sides. Surprisingly, most video players don't properly do this, which is a real shame because it's easy to fix. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to enjoy full screen video playback on our iPhones while still keeping the notch hidden.
Instead of watching videos with the partial notch could we hide it completely ?
That way the screen will be smaller but atleast it'd be pleasing to the eye. Please reply. I think the 12 mini is very 🥰
I’m still on iPhone 7 Plus.
Ditto
Im tried se 2016 and just bought a 6s. I will probably buy a new iphone in 2 years.
Same. Don’t want a phone with a notch and I use my phone on landscape mode all the time You can’t do that with the Face ID phones.
IPhone 8 Plus here.
@@RennieAsh Why would you use corded head phones in 2020? I bought airpods out of recommendations from others. At first i thought ahh i have had bluetooth headphones before and i hated them. I mean i liked cordless but they never last long and always a pain to charge and they never fit my ears either. OR you get the big ones that hang over your ear and then they get uncomfortable when your on them all day.
WOW airpods are night and day. Seriously i did not think i would like them but they are so nice and i use them almost everyday for work. I like that i can use siri with them or have siri read incoming texts to me and more. BEST OF ALL NO CORDS.
TBH, the top part of the phone is often ignored. reading -> you look at the middle. messages -> you look at the bottom. top portion of the phone, most like being ignored most of the time.
I just went from iPhone 7 to 11. The difference is huge upper and lower bands for the iPhone 7 to a wide 16:9 screen with a minor notch. It’s not like the wrap around screen is useless. It’s used for icons. The way to remove it is add narrower sensors while allowing a narrow band on top. It’s foolish to expect to the sensors to go away since FaceID is quite an excellent feature. Sometimes, technology isn’t moving fast enough although it moves quite fast.
i have not heard of the Oneplus pop up cameras failing. And i think if Apple made a long hole punch in the middle top of the Iphone would look awesome and more futuristic
If you know how many hate the guts of the notch, look at the ad on the 12 pro. They made it black so it hides the notch completely, even after legal action by a consumer who sued them.
I’ve never had an issue with the notch. It has always seemed to me that this is simply something people like to complain about.
and here I am, rocking my iPhone 8 and iPhone SE (1st gen) :D
You carry around 2 iPhones? I carry an XS Max (personal) and a galaxy A50 (work).
The notch is *HIDEOUS*.
Thank you for making this video so that the notch disappears in a black bar. RUclips needs to add a feature to adjust the full screen size
I have to say for the fold out camera, sure it has its cons for some people, but for someone like me, I absolutely LOVE it. I have a phone with one and since I don't really ever take selfies it basically stays unfolded and so I don't have a stupid camera that I never use taking up precious screen or bezel space 100% of the time, but still there when I need it, and also security-wise I know my phone camera isn't hacked because even if it was nobody would be able to see me with it folded in. And it's not like it's some futuristic tech only reserved for expensive phones, I have a phone with it for only 300 dollars!
Still waiting an iPhone without a notch
As a user i don't care. As a gamedev my disdain for notches and punchholes is proportioal to their variety on the market.
I think because Face ID requires a good number of sensors, they really can't completely eliminate the notch, but reduce it by moving components around. Other phones, because they use on-screen fingerprint sensing, can eliminate the notch and leave only a "punchhole" for the front camera.
8:55 "por qué no LOS dos" but points for trying, we could actually understand what you where trying to say, so...good job anyways 😂
NOTCH - The only reason I'm not buy a iphone after My 6S , Still waiting for a iphone that has no trade offs
The iPhone design is now years ahead behind the competition, they should ditch the face id and go full screen.
#AriHaran you just proved my point most of those who hate the notch are DogRoids who are only here to write stupid comments off the topic just to confuse prospective iPhone users. iPhone X, XS, XS MAX, XR, 11 & 11 PRO max combined sold more than 500 million units more than any all ToyRoids combined sales and all these iPhones had notches.
@@LexaGamerSrb you just proved my point most of those who hate the notch are DogRoids who are only here to write stupid comments off the topic just to confuse prospective iPhone users. iPhone X, XS, XS MAX, XR, 11 & 11 PRO max combined sold more than 500 million units more than any all ToyRoids combined sales and all these iPhones had notches
What is the sales has to do with my likings 😂 You're just a typebot aren't you ? I hate Notch which is why I'm still sticking to My old iPhone 6S , who cares how much it sells or whatever . Even in a technical aspect with the amount of R&D apple has Apple is being so cheap going with a same technology for 3 generations of iphone .So I can say & u can shut up
@@ariharan6729 is he like a type boot working for Apple? That would be nuts.
I actually like the notch, I would rather they kept the notch at the same size then smaller, the size seems perfectly sized for the design
Notch (the creator of Minecraft) wants to know your location.
Minecraft was one day sent from heaven to earth. At least that is what it is telling about itself when asked.
If apple launches an iphone without a notch, that would be the most beautiful phone on the Earth.
Honestly it'd look horrible. The notch actually gives the iPhone a personality.
I actually love Apple's notch. Amazing geometry, lot's of character and it offers the security of Face ID. Idk... those little ears look cute to me. Will be sad to see it go away someday, like i was for the round + - volume buttons from the 4 and 5 series.
I've been using iphones since 2010 but since 2017 when they released the iphone X series with that long ass notch at the top I stopped upgrading and switched over to samsung s8+(still using to this day). I really hope the iphone 13 leak where the notch is halt the size of the iphone 12 notch is real.
To those that say they don’t notice it there. That’s because you’ve accepted the notch being there and it doesn’t make the design superior in fact it is still flawed. You just choose to ignore avoid live with it kind of thing. A screen should be edge to edge seamlessly without hiccups interruptions bumps or scrapes. Apple or even Samsung hasn’t delivered in this area.
I have been away from Apple for 4 or 5 years until I bought an iPad and Air Pods Pro in the last several months (totally love them). Before that I was a frequent iMore watcher. So, back with Rene again after a long vacation. Wow. What an amazingly knowledgeable and insightful commentator you've become. I don't have an iPhone or even care about the notch. But watching you today made me realize how special you are and how I have missed you. You tell it like you see it with great panache. I'll be back for more.
The only scenario where the notch can potentially be problematic, not just aesthetically but also functionally, is when you play a game that involves virtual joysticks like Fortnite, PUBG, Brawl Stars, and others. The notch becomes a dead zone where you can't move your joy stick and if you slip your thumb into that area unintentionally, it can cost you a win which is frustrating. The same problem occurs when I play on my iPhone 8 because of the thick bezels. It's partly why I stopped playing games on my phone and switched to my iPad Pro instead. Not only is the screen bigger and can play games at 120 fps, but that problem of thumb slipping off the display is nearly non-existent on an iPad. I don't necessarily need the notch to go away to enjoy playing games on my iPhone again, but I do want the notch to reduce in size. If the notch size is reduced, the "ears" of the display can be a area where my thumb can go for the joystick. I really hope the iPhone 12 gets that smaller notch, as well as the ProMotion display to get that buttery smooth gameplay in not just in my iPad Pro. iPhones have the power to play games at 120 fps, but not the display tech.
Hole punch over notch. My favorite iPhone was the iPhone 4/5 and even with the rumored iPhone 12 going back to that shape, the notch kills it for me. I won't be switching back anytime soon. Samsung's Galaxy phones are way more beautifully designed in terms of hardware.
Dude, your transition at 9:10 took my breath away. Amazing. That's a true craftsman!
I don’t like them....I never bought ONE...unless apple removes them...sticking to my awesome iPhone 7 (still working flawlessly)
I understand that the notch is not aesthetically pleasing, but knowing all the sophisticated technology that’s underneath it has to make it justified and feel cooler than it is . It’s all relative now cause you’ve had it a few years. If the engineers have figured out how to change it they would. But it’s always gonna be apples way. 🤷🏽♂️
3:25 😂 “mother of all bathtub notches” lol
I have never come across anyone outside the tech community who has complained about the notch. I don't notice it and also i'd prefer for it to be the same size before it goes away. The notch gives the iphone character, makes it unique and distinguishable. The shrunken notch looks too much like the one one a cheap Chinese phone.
iPhone 12: Leaks
iPhone 13: “Let me stop you right there”
The pop up camera on the OnePlus 7 Pro is absolutely fine, it pops up instantly without you even thinking about it and if you think about it, thousands of digital cameras have had lenses that pop out as soon as you turn the camera on, nobody critisized the camera manufactuers and said they would fail, they always work, OnePlus is being singled out for this when there is absolutely no problem with the pop up camera, it works instanly and is futuristic. The iPhone notch is completely ridiculous.
Still think they could do a periscope solution where the top center - still existing and rather sizable - bezel is transparent containing a mirror. Right behind the top edge of the screen but pointing upwards would be the sensor cluster - just peeking around the corner...
The notch and the camera bumps are design catastrophes that Steve Jobs would have never allowed.
Why don't they do something like the s10+ so theres place for 1 camera wich is on all iPhones and the face sensor, or they could just put 1 hole for the camera and digital in screen sensor, but you know, we're talking about Apple
Perfect thickness
Perfect height & width
Weight should be a bit less
and then on top of everything that ugly, ugly, UGLY notch.
I don't think the notch is that big of a deal. However, I think the best move is a thinner continuous bezel on top with everything there. IPad Pro style. But instead of it being even bezels all around like the iPad, it can be more screen real estate on the other 3 sides.
I don’t mind the notch much. People complain but there’s a ton of technology and hardware in there that would be hard to make disappear. I am waiting for thinner bezels though!
By the way they can always put all those things behind the screen and picture, hello!
Love it when a Rene Ritchie video drops. The in depth assessments are like no other, and he’s a kool guy who includes humor jabs too
Wth did i just watch. Thanks for the "information" I guess.
Or a hidden notch under the screen 😱. If apple manage to make the screen transparent over the notch somehow, it would be awesome to watch the notch fade/animate in and out. Maybe that’s why they are going with Oled on all the models to allow that control. Also LG already has transparent Oled tech so it’s possible.
I don’t mind the notch so much except on the iPhone 12 mini it robs precious real estate in portrait mode on RUclips.
It is interesting that it kinda was already predicted 2 years ago what apple would do with the iPhone 13 xD
Underdisplay and touch id on the Apple logo, also a pocketable apple pen.
Thankfully dynamic island is taking a step forward with jousting the notch and turning it into a useful feature. Iphone 15 ultra is going to make dynamic island far ahead of this years iPhone.
I 100% understand apples logic for needing a bezel on the iPad, but I’ve never understood why it needs to be black and can’t be part of the screen that touch controls just aren’t allowed to occupy.
Ive still got a 6S. Still does everything I want it to, I’d just like the latest camera. Fingerprint sensor and force-touch text cursor movement are still as good as ever, and seemingly more reliable than my new iPad gestures!
Big NOTCH ....Apple too late to follow the suite of a onscreen fingerprint.
I am not a fan of the haptic engine on the new SE. I wish they stuck with 3D touch.
I’ve said many times but you can put into words in layman terms complex Apple thinking and philosophy in very plain language. You’ve helped me win many debates LOL.
The Explainer-in-Chief nails it again, and justifies my love of the infamous notch. 😂
Still have an iPhone X and I thought I’d get over the notch, but it honestly bugs me all the time. I’d rather just a thicker forehead on the phone tbh.
Ruins games
Never had a big issue with the notch. If it goes away that’s great. Would rather have an under screen solution. Thanks for keeping these videos going.
Big notch or small notch, never mind. I love iPhone anyway 👍👍👍
For me if I get front firing speakers, I don't mind chin from both sides
Hope they do that to iPhone SE plus.
I was able to unlock by brothers’ XS with a picture of him lol
Apple dont need a seening Notch or a thumb id buttion when you put the iphone on it comes up first thing and only time it comes up when you knock it on the phone and the notch is under the screen you still can take films and photos but you cant see it only time you see it when you look at the back of it.
If Apple add an infrared laser for VR depth perception I’ll need to wear sunglasses all the time! Or see if I can find contacts that can block laser light!
I hate this damn thing so much, i do a lot gaming on my phone and the notch can block a shit ton of info, for example in World Of Tanks Blitz, it blocks the enemy teams tank names so I have no clue on what I’m facing
Touch ID to the back of the phone ? LMFAO apple would never strain your eyes that way. The power button recommendation made you sound more sane and less comedically unaware
There are many people saying that the 2020 13 inch Macbook Pro with 10th gen processor is having major issues with Final Cut Pro. Please make a video about this!! 🙏
Why isn’t anyone talking about rounded screen corners?
I’m gonna rock the SE2 until the notch goes and hopefully the corners are squared off too.
Until the tech improves, Bezels = Fully rectangular screen.
Imagine MacBooks, iMacs, TVs, Cinemas or even paper with rounded off corners. Then realise how silly it is on an iPhone.
I don’t want to lose any screen.
Fully squared off rectangular screens are the real premium.
Wrong
No, they aren’t premium
What about the LG G8? The notch also has many sensors.
I don't mind notches. More practically, battery performance and screen refresh rate.
So you're telling me that the iPhone 12 is just going to look like a regular Galaxy phone now? How innovative.
plus, next year the Galaxy S21 will have the camera fully under the display so you wont even see a camera at all. I'll take an under display camera over punch-hole camera, and never ever pick the hideous notch of the iphone 10 and 11. Hopefully the iphone 12 gets a punch-hole so they'll finally have royal treatment like a samsung phone.
That "ruined it"? Not really ruining anything. I rather have all that. People make such a big deal over the notch. The Touch ID in the back is also pretty dumb. Glad, they made the right decisions
Instead of watching videos with the partial notch could we hide it completely ?
That way the screen will be smaller but atleast it'd be pleasing to the eye. Please reply. I think the 12 mini is very cute 🥰
Also, the notch makes the iPhone recognizable, just like the home button did.
The notch and the no chin.
I don’t care much about the notch but this would be a welcome addition
The Notch on the iPhone really doesn't bother much, and I prefer its Face ID a lot, so if to use that on the iPhone I have to get a notch, I am completely OK with it. Yes, they get Rid off the notch, but still keep the Face ID, It will be great.
I’m actually a fan of the notch. I think it’s cool to have all of the phones necessary stuff intruding on your screen real estate - seems official to me, sounds weird but I’ve always liked it....
I hated the notch until I got my XR. Now it feels like where would you put the time and battery% if you didn’t have one? Worth it for FaceID. My dream pandemic phone would have FaceID and TouchID on the Apple logo. Rear fingerprint readers are great loved them on Androids. Underscreen actually made me try Apple again and FaceID. Very frustrating especially mobile payments.
Rene, it’s not true that only google managed to implement a secure “Face ID style” biometrics solution in its phones. The biggest chinese brands have also done it already: Xiaomi, Oppo and Huawei, the later with its more known Mate series.
using the same vomiting notch over 3 years but they still charge shit tons, renovation my ass
I've been on Android for 10 yrs,when the iPhone 10 came out I really trying to convince myself to get one but couldn't cause of that hideous notch
I don’t like the notch but I don’t hate it. Like you said, you would think Apple would like to at least appear to be really innovating again. As opposed to the “let’s just give the masses only what we think we Have to to keep them using us”. The 1st company to come out with a non-android OS that’s Easy to use, and robust has my business, and I think a few tens of millions more. Tim Cook and everyone at 🍎 NEEDS to read “Teaching the Elephant to Dance!”