He was and still is one of the best and most creative metal drummer period . He had groove, creative fills, speed and so many blast variations like the stop and go hammer blast ! This man is a legend !
I remember learning this whole album through and through when I was 15 years old and because of this album am I now a professional live and studio drummer. Nocturnal and Deflorate tought me the patience and technique needed to advance in my practice and progress. Its so odd to here these songs again after so many years and 9 hour practice days where i used to skip school and play the drums all day.
@@toemasmeems This guy... got nothing to show. For me, that statement is true. I wouldnt call myself a professional musician, but it got me to tour some european cities, and Japan. These 2 albums mean a FUCKLOT to me! unlike "Scotty" i got something on my channel to back it up ;)
@@sebbimon bahahah thats hilarious Ill peep your channel now. But also I am pretty jealous of your experience I got to do one DIY tour here in the states it was more of a learning experience but yeah I wouldn't say profession here either. although i do think from the vids on my channel I too could have been one.
I still remember me and my bud going out to our local mall and picking this record up. Back when Hot Topic was actually kinda cool! We still quote "We're Going Places" to this day. Good times...
He actually used to work with my mom at a restaurant in Staunton, VA, before becoming famous and whatnot, and he came back to visit a few days ago, and I got a cymbal signed by him that he actually played, it even has a crack in it from him playing so hard :P
They werent the same without Shannon, and they certainly never will be without Trevor. These old albums are legendary and I cherish them all. RIP Trevor
I remember watching this in 09 as a drummer. Coming back to this music now later in life as a guitar player listening to the guitars how awesome the dual tracked riffs are, coupled with Shannon's groovy blasts and the great production on this album, this is truly some basass, and inspiring music.
I dont care that people say that Alan Cassidy is better, fast and stronger in his beats, the thing i love with Shannon is that his blast beats fit so into the song
TBDM has. It been the same since he left. That may be an obvious statement but to me, the quality has gone way down. Shannon makes any band he's with better.
i think alan is a great drummer but shannon have certanly more groove but alan cassidy foot techinque and hand is sick and tight He play the song of shannon really well take a look of threat n°3
He's got great feel and his blasts are suprisingly groovy! Awesome to see a mix of melody and death metal speeds. Defenitely gonna have to buy this album as I havent heard much of it until now. SICK!
particular focus on how gently tamponn lucas caresses his snare drum, i have never seen this much energy in a drummers hand. and the surprisingly wholesome sound each gentle touch miraculously produces, just wow. is he in for the modern tamponn award yet? cause if he's not, he should at least go down for most talented and versatile drummer in the world!
This is just so awesome. Everyone (and by everyone I mean other drummers whose interviews I read in Drum! or Modern Drummer) always talk about how everyone wants to play fast, speed isn't everything, blah blah blah. ..True but... with all that said, Shannon Lucas plays ridiculously fast, super clean, and is so tasteful with his licks. Even at super high tempos he still manages to throw in a little fill or bass drum lick that is like man....how did he fit that in there. I love his drumming.
@samoht i think the op was saying he doesnt like this particular subgenre of metal but likes other genres of metal. im kinda the same way; i never got into black dahlia but i love other metal bands from celtic frost to nails .
Chris Jansen I believe that the use of the "u" is present in english speaking countries other than the US, just like how we use standard over metric, we're the only fucking country that has spell things that way.
I love it. It's awsome. Some my friends are saying : Metal is only biting to instruments. This video proves, that it's not truth. This drumer is one of the best i think. I love this band. I love their songs. Keep this work boys. It can't be better!!
On the bass drums they are DDrum PRO triggers, the same I use (you can see one of them attached to his left BD), and they are really great both for affidability and responsiveness (Combined with a Clavia North ddrum4 SE drum brain, they are indeed one of the best IF NOT the best choice for live/studio triggering) Yes, indeed many drummers abuse the triggers by light-tapping on them for speed, au contraire Lucas has an impressive power for an ankle motion in using Axis Pedals.
@shav12 ... A stick hits a drum head. That causes vibrations that we call "sound waves". That "sound wave" is picked up by a microphone to amplify, or make louder, so the entire audience can hear perfectly.
The Revolver mag with Trevor on the front has some great info on TBDM, like Shannon would play as fast as he possibly could then report back to Brian on it, then Brian would write some songs with the bpm Shannon was playing at for Deflorate.
Snare was sampled, but there was a lot of automation done during the blasts (so the acoustic snare would pop out.) Kick was triggered. Toms and cymbals are all acoustic, no sampling. There was ~6hr of editing done, going through the album twice - mainly just consolidating punches. This is all directly from Mark Lewis, the engineer at Audiohammer who recorded Deflorate.
Niggles, you are so right It is fun trying to learn stuff by listening, but being able to see it first hand does wonders. it allows you to stop THINKING about what they are playing and actually visualize it. Once you have visualized it, it is easier to commit to muscle memory.
damn... talk about cleanliness and tightness... shannon is poster boy for clean and tight death metal drumming... may not be the fastest drummer out there... but this is fuckin' perfect... mad props to Shannon!
This information is straight from Mark Lewis (Co-Producer of Delforate, along w/ Jason Seucof). Snare mic was sm57 or audix i5 and a AKG 414 on top. and sm57 on bottom. They also mixed in a sample they made of a Pearl Joey Jordison Snare.
This is a real fucking deathcore drummer. I see no flying fingers or any special technique, just pure fucking stamina! Definitely one of my new favourite drummers.
@MKiller5 The sound replacement is done in the editing program, and is often mixed with the real snare/kick sound. This is to prevent double-triggering and such, plus getting some ambience in to the mix.
It's as simple as he's playing with metronome and the video is mixed with audio tracks from the album... So it's not important that we "see" on the video about triggers and mics, because the sound which we ear probably it's super edited. The best example it's that the charles mic has not cable, and only one over head mic it's connected to have a reference to mix the video and audio.
Axeman720 at the Andy Sneap forum - Snare sample is a sample i made of a joey jordison snare, believe it or not. And the kick is a dw 22" kick that is one of my favorite samples. That kick sample was made with a d6 and subkick through a 1081 and api then i ran the sample through a pultec for additional eq. Wish i could remember what beater i used on that one, its a big part of the sound. I think it was a wood beater, but not sure. Also there is alot of real snare on this drum mix
@ryan4951 im not talking about shannon lucas i was talking to the people below. I would never expect a comment on youtube to change his music. The point im trying to get across is that clicks only seem to be useful in this style of music. a true drummer doesnt limit themself to one style of music they expand there horizons so they can bring more knowledge to there table. Having said that i feel personally thuds are universal more exceptable then triggers. But it comes down to personal preference
@TheElephant2009 Triggers for an electronic kit?? An electronic kit already HAS triggers, otherwise you wouldnt hear a sound. The trigger is just the mechanism that turns your hit into a midi signal going into the sound module. How your electronic kit sounds is just a matter of your sound module...
At 1:08 at the end of his beginning roll when he's hitting the lower toms, you can distinctly hear 2 hits right before he goes into a beat. In the video he only hits them once.
Shannon is probably my favourite metal/deathcore drummer. Another dude is Lech from As Blood Runs Black he is a fucking monster on the drums, check his recordings out!
Im with you man, and yes its amplification of the bass drums, if you play drums with your band in the garage...chances are your not going to her the kick because it produces a dense low sound than the snare...its not "CHEATING" as everyone says, it just balances it out. they have single pedals out there with 2 beaters on it to make it sound like a double bass kick...NOW THATS CHEATING!
Yes, the snare is indeed mic'ed and without triggers on it, but I think that the snare is drum-replaced, some high quality samples like Steven Slate ones are EXTREMELY good, but nowadays drum replacement for snares and kicks is almost a must :) But I do see your point.
@DrummerStogeyWan I've played hundreds of show including rock on the range, vans warp tour and a set on ozze fest and i used triggers on all of them and it sounded just right i've played shows with no triggers and i couldn't even hear what i was doin so i will never play without them again.
what i meant was he is doing 16th with the right foot, instead of doing 8th on right and 8th on the left, that is commonly referred to as the "cheat blast"
Ah, Black Valor...everytime I hop into my bro's '88 Cadillac Cimarron, I pop a special tape into the tape deck, plug the tape into my Pod......and Blast that song hahaha.
stupid how people always come to drumming videos and say "OH THIS GUY IS BETTER!" who fucking cares, music ain't competition and shannon lucas kicks ass!
![[DRUM COVER] G DRAGON - POWER (drumless track)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wJFxoKkmoZM/mqdefault.jpg)
The fucking Nocturnal album, fuck.
I'm 30 now, and it sounds even better than when I was 15
Fuuuuck Same
Miasma, Nocturnal and Deflorate
All timeless classics
@@caseypnw Obligatory "RIP Trevor" Didn't forsee that in the year since this comment was made...
He was and still is one of the best and most creative metal drummer period . He had groove, creative fills, speed and so many blast variations like the stop and go hammer blast ! This man is a legend !
Yess SIRRR FACTS
he hit way fucking harder with that german grip
Shannon is my favorite TBDM drummer
Mentoo
Hands down
He was innovative as fuck !
G O A T
THE BEST
Alan Cassidy is dope too, RIP Trevor Strnad
14 years later and he is still one of the best metal drummers, very underrated too
Dudes a beast
I remember learning this whole album through and through when I was 15 years old and because of this album am I now a professional live and studio drummer. Nocturnal and Deflorate tought me the patience and technique needed to advance in my practice and progress. Its so odd to here these songs again after so many years and 9 hour practice days where i used to skip school and play the drums all day.
Where are all your videos at?
@@davidwhippen5740 He fulllll a shit man
@@toemasmeems This guy... got nothing to show. For me, that statement is true. I wouldnt call myself a professional musician, but it got me to tour some european cities, and Japan. These 2 albums mean a FUCKLOT to me! unlike "Scotty" i got something on my channel to back it up ;)
@@sebbimon bahahah thats hilarious Ill peep your channel now. But also I am pretty jealous of your experience I got to do one DIY tour here in the states it was more of a learning experience but yeah I wouldn't say profession here either. although i do think from the vids on my channel I too could have been one.
@@sebbimon your playthrough of Dave Goes to Hollywood was fucking tight!
Shannon Lucas is the reason why TBDM play so tight live.
I still remember me and my bud going out to our local mall and picking this record up. Back when Hot Topic was actually kinda cool! We still quote "We're Going Places" to this day. Good times...
He actually used to work with my mom at a restaurant in Staunton, VA, before becoming famous and whatnot, and he came back to visit a few days ago, and I got a cymbal signed by him that he actually played, it even has a crack in it from him playing so hard :P
They werent the same without Shannon, and they certainly never will be without Trevor.
These old albums are legendary and I cherish them all. RIP Trevor
Shannon Lucas always gonna b in my top 5 fav drummers. Cassidy is descent AF but nobody can replace THE LUCA$
2:44.... Fucking animal! I could watch him drum all day fucking long.
+Andrew Shirley He makes everything look so easy. Its like watching a ballet lol.
I remember watching this in 09 as a drummer. Coming back to this music now later in life as a guitar player listening to the guitars how awesome the dual tracked riffs are, coupled with Shannon's groovy blasts and the great production on this album, this is truly some basass, and inspiring music.
Shannon Lucas and Alex rudinger. My favorites
Cant forget the orbinator also in that fantastic list!
Agreed.. Alex Bent is up and coming also...
He will always be a legend his Playing in all that remains still makes my jaw drop to this day
I dont care that people say that Alan Cassidy is better, fast and stronger in his beats, the thing i love with Shannon is that his blast beats fit so into the song
TBDM has. It been the same since he left. That may be an obvious statement but to me, the quality has gone way down. Shannon makes any band he's with better.
+Gregory blankenship typos. Hasn't been the same.
Yea I was definitely disappointed when I found out he was leaving. He makes it look so effortless here but damn it sounds great.
The quality of the music has NOT gone down. You're just a fucking idiot.
i think alan is a great drummer but shannon have certanly more groove but alan cassidy foot techinque and hand is sick and tight
He play the song of shannon really well take a look of threat n°3
Even if you dont like metal, if you are any musician of any kind you have to at LEAST appreciate the skill and talent shannon has! incredible!
He's got great feel and his blasts are suprisingly groovy! Awesome to see a mix of melody and death metal speeds. Defenitely gonna have to buy this album as I havent heard much of it until now. SICK!
Ahhhhh!! Its proof that the machines have taken over and are among us. No human should be able to drum as fast as Shannon and Alan.
mkehandgrenades but he's not that fast... like he has very standard death metal drummer speed
Kevin Paradis is faster than all of them. Dude is a beast.
+lowshay ty. His band is sick too.
Look up despised icons album day of mourning that dude is faster than this but shannon is still a beast
the concept of failure Alex grind is ridiculous.
Am I the only who realizes the editor mixed up the songs?
Yeah it's on my Deflorate bonus dvd, the songs are switched up.
I saw it too
Completely. Almost.
particular focus on how gently tamponn lucas caresses his snare drum, i have never seen this much energy in a drummers hand. and the surprisingly wholesome sound each gentle touch miraculously produces, just wow. is he in for the modern tamponn award yet? cause if he's not, he should at least go down for most talented and versatile drummer in the world!
I like how he uses single pedal for some blasts and double for others.
Thank you Mr. Lucas, for showing us the way.
live for this
This is just so awesome. Everyone (and by everyone I mean other drummers whose interviews I read in Drum! or Modern Drummer) always talk about how everyone wants to play fast, speed isn't everything, blah blah blah. ..True but...
with all that said, Shannon Lucas plays ridiculously fast, super clean, and is so tasteful with his licks. Even at super high tempos he still manages to throw in a little fill or bass drum lick that is like man....how did he fit that in there.
I love his drumming.
the best drummer of tbdm
the exakt reason why im here
Eh. Alan is just as good if not better.
he may not be one of the best drummers but certainly he is one of the greatest
The use of the bass in Christ Deformed is very atmosphere-creating at 1:30. Love that song!
OMFG! This is currently THE BEST footage of Shannon ripping it up. Thanks so much for posting!!
This just doesn't get old. Death Panorama is fuckin sick as dicks.
Incredible Stamina. Great speed. Awesome Drummer. Amazing Band.
2:57 is just epic,
their new album is just amazing!!
especially the guitar and drums.
Shannon is an incredible drummer with great stamina.
I don't like this metal genre
But he is awesome ... and in "The Fall of Ideals" did an absolutely spectacular work ...
Today agree! All that remains is missing that death metal aspect from their music without him
Why do non metal people always say That? No one cares, I don't say I listen to metal and still like Benny greb cuz it's pointless narrative
@samoht i think the op was saying he doesnt like this particular subgenre of metal but likes other genres of metal. im kinda the same way; i never got into black dahlia but i love other metal bands from celtic frost to nails .
Years of practice is shown right here...man I wish I could be that fast.
480p* "HQ!!" ...
One of the most composed metal drummers ever, he’s the same almost every single song
God
i hate it when i find a drummer i wish i had been watching a long time ago. so much missed time.....excellent video
My only concern is that you spelled "valor" wrong twice
Its not spelled wrong.....Valour is the English(British) spelling of the word. Same as color and colour.
Brannon Young Valor is English, valour is French...
Chris Jansen I believe that the use of the "u" is present in english speaking countries other than the US, just like how we use standard over metric, we're the only fucking country that has spell things that way.
1:06 Actually, that song is not 'Black Valor' but it's 'Christ Deformed'.
Brannon Young And "Velor"? That's how it was spelled the first time.
I love it. It's awsome. Some my friends are saying : Metal is only biting to instruments. This video proves, that it's not truth. This drumer is one of the best i think. I love this band. I love their songs. Keep this work boys. It can't be better!!
I wonder if Shannon has ever fucked up a part in his life. I doubt there's any video evidence of it haha
On the bass drums they are DDrum PRO triggers, the same I use (you can see one of them attached to his left BD), and they are really great both for affidability and responsiveness (Combined with a Clavia North ddrum4 SE drum brain, they are indeed one of the best IF NOT the best choice for live/studio triggering)
Yes, indeed many drummers abuse the triggers by light-tapping on them for speed, au contraire Lucas has an impressive power for an ankle motion in using Axis Pedals.
2:50 - 3:01 - fuuuuuck.....
One of the best drummers metal has ever seen.
For a dude with a chicks name, he aint bad!
Phillip hanna Glad to see a sense of humor on ya.
Hanna is even girlier
he is such a monster..he makes this stuff look so effortless. its just amazing
Those bassdrums sound just PERFECT for the music.
And so does Shannon :)
@shav12
...
A stick hits a drum head. That causes vibrations that we call "sound waves". That "sound wave" is picked up by a microphone to amplify, or make louder, so the entire audience can hear perfectly.
yet another drummer of an amazingly sick band that i had no idea was straight edge. awesome
Imagine him being on stage with Black Dahlia murder now? As a guest drummer🎉
The Revolver mag with Trevor on the front has some great info on TBDM, like Shannon would play as fast as he possibly could then report back to Brian on it, then Brian would write some songs with the bpm Shannon was playing at for Deflorate.
Snare was sampled, but there was a lot of automation done during the blasts (so the acoustic snare would pop out.) Kick was triggered. Toms and cymbals are all acoustic, no sampling. There was ~6hr of editing done, going through the album twice - mainly just consolidating punches.
This is all directly from Mark Lewis, the engineer at Audiohammer who recorded Deflorate.
Niggles,
you are so right
It is fun trying to learn stuff by listening, but being able to see it first hand does wonders. it allows you to stop THINKING about what they are playing and actually visualize it. Once you have visualized it, it is easier to commit to muscle memory.
The human drum machine at work. Beautiful.
Shannon is the best tbdm drummer for me,he is tbdm,no disrespect to alan.
damn... talk about cleanliness and tightness... shannon is poster boy for clean and tight death metal drumming... may not be the fastest drummer out there... but this is fuckin' perfect... mad props to Shannon!
This information is straight from Mark Lewis (Co-Producer of Delforate, along w/ Jason Seucof).
Snare mic was sm57 or audix i5 and a AKG 414 on top. and sm57 on bottom.
They also mixed in a sample they made of a Pearl Joey Jordison Snare.
Man, I wish I could play like this guy.
You don't need a drum machine when you have Shannon Lucas. The dude's a fucking machine! I just saw him live about 2 hours ago in SLC, UT.
no one knows how shannon lucas play drums like this but we're all better people because of it
after watching this video,im fucking honored to have one of his drumsticks
i like how his songs are simplistic but fast i rekon it sounds mad
I got to meet this guy on friday when they played here in tucson, hes awesome, got his signature too
He is one of the smoothest drummers ive ever seen
This is a real fucking deathcore drummer. I see no flying fingers or any special technique, just pure fucking stamina! Definitely one of my new favourite drummers.
Sad to see this now...given his recent departure. TBDM will still rule hard!
Still ruling hard .
Shannon Lucas is the living proof that practice makes master.
every fucking day of my i thank the universe for shannon lucas.
I NOW HAVE THIS ALBUM!!
and both BDM DVDs...
@webbtje
I have spent the last 10 minutes reading your comments and I must say they are nothing short of impressive keep up the good work
@MKiller5 The sound replacement is done in the editing program, and is often mixed with the real snare/kick sound. This is to prevent double-triggering and such, plus getting some ambience in to the mix.
It's as simple as he's playing with metronome and the video is mixed with audio tracks from the album... So it's not important that we "see" on the video about triggers and mics, because the sound which we ear probably it's super edited.
The best example it's that the charles mic has not cable, and only one over head mic it's connected to have a reference to mix the video and audio.
Axeman720 at the Andy Sneap forum -
Snare sample is a sample i made of a joey jordison snare, believe it or not. And the kick is a dw 22" kick that is one of my favorite samples. That kick sample was made with a d6 and subkick through a 1081 and api then i ran the sample through a pultec for additional eq. Wish i could remember what beater i used on that one, its a big part of the sound. I think it was a wood beater, but not sure. Also there is alot of real snare on this drum mix
@ryan4951 im not talking about shannon lucas i was talking to the people below. I would never expect a comment on youtube to change his music. The point im trying to get across is that clicks only seem to be useful in this style of music. a true drummer doesnt limit themself to one style of music they expand there horizons so they can bring more knowledge to there table. Having said that i feel personally thuds are universal more exceptable then triggers. But it comes down to personal preference
love it
i will now proceed to buy this cd/dvd combo tomorrow
Honestly, Shannon Lucas is a god on drums, Alan is crazy good but Shannon’s fills are just insane.
Amazing drummer favorite🤘
Kick tension is cranked, doesnt matter what its stuffed with. Ddrum triggers. DM5 module.
Snare is a 5.5"x14" Starclassic Copper
shannon's endurance is astounding
@TheElephant2009 Triggers for an electronic kit?? An electronic kit already HAS triggers, otherwise you wouldnt hear a sound. The trigger is just the mechanism that turns your hit into a midi signal going into the sound module. How your electronic kit sounds is just a matter of your sound module...
Also, this video is not from the tracking sessions. It was filmed after the fact.
i WILL have a kit exactly like that set up one day!!!
At 1:08 at the end of his beginning roll when he's hitting the lower toms, you can distinctly hear 2 hits right before he goes into a beat. In the video he only hits them once.
oh yeah you're right...about the heads and the pedals haha. i have classic black longboards, pure works of genius!
Shannon is probably my favourite metal/deathcore drummer. Another dude is Lech from As Blood Runs Black he is a fucking monster on the drums, check his recordings out!
Worldest greatest drummer!!
Im with you man, and yes its amplification of the bass drums, if you play drums with your band in the garage...chances are your not going to her the kick because it produces a dense low sound than the snare...its not "CHEATING" as everyone says, it just balances it out. they have single pedals out there with 2 beaters on it to make it sound like a double bass kick...NOW THATS CHEATING!
Yes, the snare is indeed mic'ed and without triggers on it, but I think that the snare is drum-replaced, some high quality samples like Steven Slate ones are EXTREMELY good, but nowadays drum replacement for snares and kicks is almost a must :) But I do see your point.
I like the fake plant in the background, adds a nice touch.
The one not connected is hovering above another cymbal. On the left side you can clearly see a connected mic above the hihats.
@DrummerStogeyWan I've played hundreds of show including rock on the range, vans warp tour and a set on ozze fest and i used triggers on all of them and it sounded just right i've played shows with no triggers and i couldn't even hear what i was doin so i will never play without them again.
what i meant was he is doing 16th with the right foot, instead of doing 8th on right and 8th on the left, that is commonly referred to as the "cheat blast"
Yeah Shannon ruled. Funnest time in bdm history for me
He's using Tama bubinga/birch drums and a copper snare. all sabian cymbals, evans heads i believe, and axis pedals. hope that helps!
Makes me feel like breaking my Guitar and go out and buy a Kit :D XD LOL
Saw them live shannon is just crazy..
Dude those blasts are ridiculous
Ah, Black Valor...everytime I hop into my bro's '88 Cadillac Cimarron, I pop a special tape into the tape deck, plug the tape into my Pod......and Blast that song hahaha.
stupid how people always come to drumming videos and say "OH THIS GUY IS BETTER!" who fucking cares, music ain't competition and shannon lucas kicks ass!
Black Valor is just a ridiculously awesome song. :D