This John Constable Sketch Could Be Worth £2,000,000 If It's Real! | Fake Or Fortune?
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- A painting of Willy Lott's Cottage, previously bought and sold, twice, by Philip Mould is shown to be by John Constable. Mould's previous attempts to prove this had failed to convince experts. Its provenance, from the current owner all the way back to Constable's estate, via the Doheny family, whisky distiller Tommy Dewar and soap manufacturer Thomas J. Barratt, is established. Stylistic details, verified by Constable experts Annie Lyles and Sarah Cove, date the painting to the correct period. Mould, who sold the painting for £35,000 in 2000, is sanguine about losing out on its estimated £2 million value.
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I never knew an art history documentary could be so edge-of-my-seat thrilling! This is a superb watch!
In college i had art history as part of my course. Unfortunately it was ‘read, remember, regurgitate’...small pix in a book barely inspired curiosity or amazement of creations and their creators. Knowledge was read, but bland and no depth. To test the students’ knowledge- remember the birth and death dates of the artists to regurgitate during exams. But, like you say Catherine, this show/series is so riveting! Here’s hoping British Art history teachers everywhere will show this in class.
This episode has a feeling about Phillip, the picture must hit home for him Because this episode shows how emotional phillip is. Its very beautiful.
I am so sorry, Philip Mould, you were denied confirmation twice before. You are a man of integrity and honor. Your comment at the end of this programme showed real character and class. Bravo.
I love his vindication!!🎉🎉🎉
Agree. I wonder though if he went home and tossed down several glasses of Dewer's.
My thought EXACTLY! @@elenalatici9568
Almost spooky that the painting was traced all the way back to when his son sold it. I love this channel so much. It has the elements of mystery, detective story, and thriller. Better than so many movies today.
The smallest detail can be huge when the facts roll in
Feel sorry for Phillip in many ways, if he had held onto it...but on the other hand, he will go down in art history as the person who found it again. That must be worth more than money to be remembered in this piece of art's history for 100s of years to come.
Philips emotions about "his" constable were genuine. I think beyond any monetary amount.he has a lovely connection to it.
I don’t necessarily agree. As an art dealer of course you want your clients to feel like they got a good deal. But missing £2m when he had it in his hands for years, that must hurt.
@@Griffintheelder If I were Philip I would have gone home and punched a wall haha. Validation yes, but I would have preferred the 2 mill as I'm sure he would have, I hope the client at least shouted him to a vintage bottle of champagne at the very least.
Astounding that with Philip’s eye 👁 and his unwavering knowledge....he is rewarded in this extremely potent way
Congratulations dear Philip and Fiona the best Fake or Fortune yet 🎉❤😮😊🇬🇧
When you came upon the house in real life, I gasped and started to tear up, it is so beautiful, so stunning, that is how those pictures are so captivating is because it takes your breath away and makes you want to be in that quiet peaceful place, I wish I was there now.
Me, same!
A masterful piece of detective work to authenticate this Constable painting. It was well worth the effort. The monetary worth is significant, but the fact that it was Painted by Constable himself is more important. Truly a great asset to the world, and the public who will get to view it 😊
You can't have art without craft. John Constable had both. Genius at work.
@Chris De Oni - I thoroughly agree. The eye AND the skill both must be present.
I am convinced that Philip has a sixth sense about art.
It’s called experience and education.
@@joholly1951 “Experience is the worst teacher; it gives the test before presenting the lesson.” Vernon Law
@@joholly1951 I respectfully disagree. He certainly had both, but you can't teach an eye. You either have it, or you don't.
@@elenalatici9568 Good point.🤙
Bravo to the team and present day owner, for having his John Constable sketch, authenticated!
Thanks for posting -- very nice to see one where the 'experts' support the case presented.
The expert at the beginning didn't immediately discount it, so they stood a chance this time. I was so happy for the bloke!
Hi watching from France. waited 'till the end to find out if it was indeed a genuine piece of art. Glad to see that a French Museum located on Marseille was of some help too.
Excuse my broken English, didn't use Google translate. I wish you all the best for 2023. Cheers
:@@mattg56 And no need to apologize about your English. You are trying to give us a message, and we have received it. Best wishes!
Your English is fine.
As well to you an it is an exceptional way to see an appreciate the Art World and Excellent Quality Art Work an learn of many different Artist styles in this show
This episode was thrilling to watch unfold! I love this show!!
Years ago in Toronto, there was an exhibition of Constable sketches of sky, clouds. I found it exhilarating.
Another fascinating episode. Thank you Philip and Fiona!
I have learned so much about art, art history, and the selling and collecting of art from this program! The episodes are so engaging, each one like the unraveling of a mystery story, and I find myself pulling for the owners of the works! Very well-presented and enjoyable.
Love this show. I learn so much. Thank you. 😊
When I’ve heard that painting could be worth 2 million I went straight to the end of the video to see the final judgment. It was not possible for me to wait and find out.
same here..haha..
@@benjy6358 thank you for not being spoilsports. because i also want to know. but i want to WATCH it. and will also not read other comments until the episode is over.
The thrill of the detective story, the art world people met along the way, the amazing technical tools and procedures, and the places visited.
All add up to make a super example of TV viewing.
You missed out on those pleasures.
Amazing really top-notch program and had me on the edge of my seat from start to finish.
Most excellent outcome possible. My heart rate went up by the minute
I thought Philip looked like he was going to burst into tears at the end!! Amazing result!
In my opinion Philip's face was showing signs of distress when the verdict came in. And who wouldn't feel distressed. When you had that in your hands, owned it and your knowledge and gut told you it was genuine and two people "experts" in the field, who might have known more or less then Philip dismissed it. Ouch !
I agree. He was so sure of his judgment in this painting that he bought it twice only to be denied its authenticity each time. Even though he'd been vindicated that had to have been a burn of monumental proportions.
I believe there are many "experts" who previously denied the authenticity of a painting who steadfastly refuse to be found less than expert. Ego, ego, ego. I wonder how many originals found in thrift shops are hanging ignominiously in modest homes because experts shunned them, and off they went. Perhaps as many as the "originals" later found to be blatant fakes in the Getty Museum.
What an amazing artist. Go glad this was such a wonderful outcome.
I think it’s so cute that Henry believed in Philip’s opinion that much wayback in the ‘90s.
What a wonderful story!! Enjoyed it so much. Thank you.
Well done. An excellent bit of sleuthing, but with two million pounds and so many fakes in play, I can see how hard evidence would be essential.
this is the best tv format in the history of tv formats.
This has everything. Win or lose its a great show
This has been one of the most satisfying discoveries seen on the show. From Phillip’s belief from the beginning to Henry’s love of the piece, just a wonderful outcome. Learning the background of the previous owners has been fascinating and has truly shown that the provenance is as valuable as the art. Just knowing those that loved and valued it along the way is incredible. Oh if a work of art could speak, it can be heard in its provenance.
It always comes down to people who don't want to be wrong,a artist who was fabulous,an bad record keeping most of the time that defines . It all
The episode where the gallery owner went to jail for falsifying provenance to forgeries. 120 paintings were suspect. 😱
Im really liking these episodes Ive learned a lot of stuff. Detective work on old art. i like it
The two guys talking about their grandmother was hilarious. They kept it real.
The amount of effort, time, detailing, research, and quest to find the answer by Philip Mould and his team is just mind-blowing. In fact, Philip would make a great detective in the crime world too.
So thrilling, thanks a lot for such an exciting Fake or Fortune´s chapter!
YES! I LOVE watching this series of thrilling events.
great episode .... also loved the dresses Feona wore!
she driving so fast i was scared for my bro for a minute hahah but i love you guys painting and art is just amazing people like you guys feel the love in art , much love and blessing
Amazing detective work for an amazing piece. I hope he splits just a bit with his friend, after all without his work it would probably not have been approved
So do I!
I love this show and Fiona and Philip I recall these two from antiques roadshow and I'm really loving this smart show..much love from an artist and fellow history nerd from Tx.
Loved watching this---and I'm happy that I didn't read the description first!!
Another brilliant show!!!! ❤
It's always easier for an "expert" to say no rather than be fair with the evidence. In this case, tireless hard work, imagination, and an eye for the persistent truth won over the two experts who were both fair and intelligent. Sad to say, too many "experts" are untrained artists' relatives or people hired by galleries and auction houses (all of which should be rendered by law as illegal).
Couldn't agree more.
Imagine if this show was done in the USA. The climax would have the owners acting like the contestants on “the price is right”. Total mayhem. Instead we get only slight and modest arousal. Very very British.
Phillip should definitely. get a commissioner from the current owner. The poor guy looks crushed and nauseous.
I am actually tearing up, quite emotional on Philips behalf. At the very least he will be known for generations to come as a man with an exquisite eye, who saved such an important Constable.
Thank you Philip for believing in yourself.
I look forward to this series and this episode in particular was outstanding. The knowledge of the experts, the discovery of past owners and their stories, and the locations visited made this a particularly engaging episode. That the provenance of the painting was traced back to the artist's son as a last-minute revelation was an unexpected surprise.
At 50:40 when Fiona Bruce suggests as a possibility, given all the facts and provenance gathered up to that point, that the work could still be a fake, and Philip Mould replies: "Well, apart from being the characteristic killjoy you are Fiona, at moments like this . . . ", I laughed out loud.
I have never heard of this painter, but loved the show on its own. Loved all the detective work and how beautifully its shot. Would love to go visit the scene in the picture, is that possible?
Really? You've not heard of John Constable before? He and JMW Turner are the UK's favourite artists and we all know about their lives and work. If you like Constable there is a wealth of material available about him.
Yes Willy Lotts' cottage is preserved for the Nation by the National Trust and anybody can visit, the scene is preserved to look just like the 150ish year old painting.
I have visited as I only lived an hour to the south by road at one time.
Best wishes for your explorations.
NEver heard of Constable????
Me neither, ashamed to say. But better late than never?!☺️
@@cherylmoss3632 So condescending. Mean, actually.
And mad props to Phillip for truly being an "expert"!!!!! Please don't feel bad; you were right all along!!!!
Absolutely delighted!
Even though I waited until the end to play, and even considering the spoiler comments here: I was soo happy it was REAL. Masters of the reveal you are yep. And. It's really important too!
Absolutely fantastic!!
I'll bet Philip is pissed he sold a £2 million painting for £35K
Twice.
I have seen all the ForFs before but always happy to watch again.
LA County Museum of Art: lovingly referred to as, LACMA. Another wonderful episode. Thank you!
I adore this show! I hope there is many more episodes to come ❤
Philip, you were exceedingly gracious. The committee and the auction house lost you and that family a 2 million £ painting. That had to on one had wonderful to be vindicated as a savvy art dealer, and gutting to know that 2 million could have been yours.
Very impressive restoration of Greystone by The City of Beverly Hills over the last 15 years since I'd been there...The city's water reservior is actually below the parking areas.
This was riveting from beginning to end!
Wonderful episdoe! Thanks for sharing it.
POOR PHILLIP! HE LOOKED LIKE HIS STOMACH HURT AT ONE POINT. BUT I BELIEVE HE IS GLAD.
He dreams of being a collector. But he s a dealer, through and through.
i wished that person could at least give phillip the 35k back :( lolllllllll or let him be the dealers so he can profit from the commision lollllll
Even the greatest art forge experts alive can’t catch the best of the forgeries.
That doesn't matter much. Nobody will know about it. As long as they catch the average forgers, and the number of authenticated paintings doesn't increase too much, the market is fine.
Super Interesting show , I was a vendor at the greystone mansion some years ago so to get some background on it was cool and Dewers as well, wow very cool show
Wonderful piece of investigation. Fascinating story, but Oh Gosh Philip!
And so careful and courteous to always refer to the painting as Henry's - which of course it IS, but still... Vindicated and Gutted is my guess! ( Did Philip retire immediately afterwards for a month, with a case of Dewar's?! I would have! )
# You know what I kept pondering - all the way through? Whether Henry would have the decency to 'Do The Right Thing" by Philip. After all, they both took a chance on it - within the means each had available at the time. Splitting the profit 50/50 would be the honorable thing to my mind. { Guess we'll never know...}
Meanwhile; I have learned so much more about this wonderful artist. Congrats to the whole production team and all involved in achieving this great outcome.
Most Excellent!!!
I'm binge-watching "Who Do You Think You Are?" for paintings.
Next time im popping popcorn. As good as it gets
Holy shit, finally some experts that weren't scared to change their opinion and admit they were wrong!
Your Turner episode for me was the greatest in this series but…. But this one isn’t far behind!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I am overwhelmed.
I followed your search for Provenance and had a lump in my throat
a lot of the time.
What brilliant investigation.
I really knew at the end that it had to be genuine, because , you risked a genuine
thrashing if it wasn't the real thing!:)
For me, seeing those videos of Constable's great art, really demonstrated His genius.THank you so much,
Frederick Spector
What incredible provenance research.
This was nice to watch and such a lovely landscape out there but for what i've noticed here is that Constable is very accurate in his paintings even when it's later done or finished in a studio and with this painting the chimney of the main building is too short and the little wing building is missing. I'm curious to find out what others opinion would be on this.
I have an old advertisement from the late mid to late 1800s of Pears soap. It has a picture of an absolutely destitute , dirty looking man saying "Since I discovered Pears soap "I have used no other! lol Quite a play on words for the time.
" It must be displayed " reads " Get out of my house so the Gallery pays the huge insurance" . It would be on loan . He's not giving it away.
If I was Phillip I would be upset because clearly he should have made much more from selling this painting. At the same time I think it's wonderful that the painting has been authenticated and that the current owner's trust in Phillip wasn't misplaced.
Because of this trust and this being broadcast, I am sure Philip would get a lot more sales now at his company.
Because he was denied two times, he learned what it takes to get a painting in that prize range authenticated, and now he makes good use of these skills as a dealer.
I didn't mean that it hasn't benefited him in the end. That doesn't take away from how frustrating and financially damaging it must have been originally when the painting was denied.
I. Have. Chills! Bravo!
Wonderful story, wonderful result.
If a major state gallery eventual acquires the painting I wonder if they will try to remove the over paint on the trees on the right. Or whether this is still even possible? Perhaps it's been there too long now and is too permanently bonded to safely remove.
Happily that's been done by the end of the episode--at roughly 55:39, the expert (who's just said that everything they'd expect to find in a Constable is there) says: "We know that at some point it was overpainted, but most of that's been removed now. The small bits that are left don't affect the attribution at all." So, yay!🖌🎨
I have no idea when exactly this was filmed. I Really an enjoying the incredible highs and lows of this program. What ended up happening to this painting?
American woman at the Getty: "Here's a photo of 'Greystone mansion'".
Fiona: "'Mansion'?! Where I come from. We'd call that a cottage!"😂
More exciting than a thriller.
The experts speak of the provenance and the discovered similar sketches aiding their decision of authenticity, but in my mind everyone here misses the most important fact. And this is the absolute brilliance of vision and paint handling. No fraudster or average artist is capable of such skill. This fast painting is a highly emotional and light-filled work of art, certainly head and shoulders above the skill level of all ordinary artists. It had to be by a Master.
"Damnit, John, stop creeping around my property and making sketches of my house!"
~Willy Lott (maybe)
Hi! How are you?
It's already February this year. What a fast flow of time - I wish you good health and good things for the rest of the week.
Thank you very much.
Thank you 💖☺️💖
It is real. Thank you! Saved you from boring bs.
Great show!!!BTW Why am I seeing commercials?
The picture is beautiful but the lady expert doing the investigation is exquisite. Simply gorgeous eye candy, Now bring it on, I'm ready for the insults.
Phillip and Fiona ought to do a show where they take art from talented un knowns and not only help them see if they can sell it but give them their honest opinion if they're good enough to compete with the greats or could see their paintings becoming new antiques even after the artist is passed lol.😊
Great vibes coming off of them. Ive been watching restoration videos of old masterpieces. Im in a happy place.
His paintings have life…literally they breathe. Like looking at real life…but it stops when you look right at it, but catch movement out of the corner of your eye.
I paused while watching to look up John C. in Wikipedia to get a bit more of his background. As Philip pointed out, the setter in 3 painting. So as I looked at the pix in Wiki, that dog turned numerous times. Makes me wonder if any (childhood?) significance..just like these landscapes
Well done 👏💫
With the California heirs, Same, my matriarch was Sugarpie.
It's gorgeous.
Why is it when Constable comes along, they start cutting up onions?
The dodgy fingers look like bad retouching.
bravo!
LACMA & The Getty are both worth visiting in LA. Timeless masterpieces from the world over and The Getty is free to visit. The Doheny Jr. murder scandal is covered by Caitlyn Doherty here on RUclips. The mansion has appeared in lots of films.
Phillip and Fiona should also find out what happened to missing Dr. Barndoor from the series.
But what will become of the two grandsons who seemingly had it stolen from them? It seems to me that the gallery that appraised the lot of art for auction perhaps knew its value and arranged its "loss" ...shouldn't they be compensated??
Ooooh, so the better picture of the two examples is NOT a Constable! The dead shepherd painting is the Constable. How interesting.
well told, well done
Watching an English man trying to contain his complete excitement was extremely entertaining. 😅