It was Ned's blows that dropped him the most times. Aside from Charlie's chest kick. Ned's friends only got in real effective blows after Ned beat him down repeatedly in turn.
Eric was brave and a tough fighter, no doubt. I still think a one on one fist fight between Eric and Ned would've been close but Ned would've still won. Eric would've destroyed his buddies easily one on one though. Eric hit all three of Ned's friends randomly attacking him in turn vs jumping him all at once but Ned blocked and countered Eric's every punch and beat him down three times, plus pinned Eric with a Judo throw in their mild one on one scuffle on the rooftop. This was to insure an absolute victory for Ned because he wasn't gonna fight fair for the girl plus it was Dugan's personal revenge for Eric leaving the Alpha Elite.
Ned was laughing at Eric's inability to physically overpower him or strike him. The Alpha Elite members took turns attacking Eric randomly in turn as opposed to jumping him all at once, Eric hit all three of Ned's friends and teammates but Ned blocked and countered Eric's punches and beat Eric down three times plus pinned Eric with a Judo throw takedown and combat pin one on one on the high-school rooftop.
True. Ned fucking steam rolled him several times over. Ned did the most damage to Eric. He was hitting the other three Alpha Elite members attacking him randomly in turn but couldn't strike Ned once and got floored three times straight by Eric without being able to physically overcome or land defensive offense to Ned. Ned's friends really only got their free shots in after Ned beat Eric down with a fake knee strike to the body and an elbow strike to the face at one hundred percent charging Ned head on. Ned and his friends took turns attacking Eric randomly in turn versus jumping him all at once and Eric hit all of Ned's friends but couldn't hit Ned back once without getting dropped to the ground.
That's Absolutely True I wish Mr. Miyagi could have taught Eric How to do Karate That would have been awesome That's not fair to Eric McGowen That Eric was beaten to death
@@sethtejackson Not literally to death. But Ned and his wannabe Cobra Kai Alpha Elite fraternity teammates and friends gang beat Eric within an inch of his life. Colonel Dugan would've forced Ned and his group to kill Eric had Mr. Miyagi and Julie not shown up at the docks. Miyagi should've taught Eric karate, agreed. In addition to the army combatitive training Eric and his former teammates had from Dugan. Would've put up a much better fight if not won under training from Mr. Miyagi in Karate. But honestly Ned would've beaten Eric alone one on one regardless. Although it would have been an evenly matched street brawl. Ned was much stronger, aggressive and slightly more skilled in combat with Eric a close second as Dugan's best students. Eric hit all three of Ned's friends randomly attacking him in turn vs jumping him all at once, but got floored by Ned every time he swung at Ned in the 5 vs 1 gang beating.
But Julie received karate training in Okinawan karate from her late father, who was Miyagi's student and lower ranking soldier in WWII, where he learned Miyagi-Doh karate from Mr. Miyagi and passed it on to Julie as a child before Julie's parents died in her teenage years. Mr. Miyagi completed her training with the short two weeks of karate training at the Buddhist temple. And Julie used her lifetime of karate training to easily mop the floor with Ned effortlessly one on one. Ned and Eric were fairly strong, decent fighters against your average kid or teenager but weak against a more well trained, highly skilled and experienced martial artist.
Michael Cavalieri is a distanct cousin of myself in real life. He agreed Ned could've won one on one had he tried. He just wasn't gonna fight fair for the girl and it was Dugan's personal revenge. Eric would have destroyed Ned's boys one on one easily though. One on one it would have been close but Ned still would win. The rooftop fight proved who was overall stronger and more aggressive.
tell your cousin he needs to be in Cobra Kai plus i admired him alongside Jimmy Smits and Billy Blanks. mike wouldve worked well with Wesley Snipes and Eric Palladino.
@@jakeytedesco3003 you see how many times Ned floored Eric? Really, the others only got any real affective free shots on Eric after Ned's attacks had already done the most damage. That was my other account by the way you responded to.
By the end of the clip, the students don't want to continue, they can see Eric has had enough, the cracks are already showing in their attitude towards Dugan, even before Julie and Mr Miyagi arrive and win their fights, ending Dugan's hold on his students
Same here! It's wicked cool, memorable, and badass! Dugan, Ned, and Eric rocked! Love their enemy-esque chemistry. I took my girlfriend to see this back in '94. Fun, simpler times.
"You wanted me, right? Well you got it!" I think Ned was saying he was the best of the Alpha Elite and deep down likely thought he could surpass Dugan someday. Maybe I'm over analyzing.
@@babymammoth34 imo Ned would've won alone and could've man to man. It would've been a close, competitive fight but Ned would've won. Given the rooftop fight and the fact Eric hit all three of Ned's friends but Ned blocked, countered and beat Eric down everytime Eric took a swing at him plus the Alpha Elite members took turns beating Eric up randomly attacking him in turn vs jumping him all at once like typical bullies and thugs. Eric would've mopped the floor with Ned's friends easily one on one though.
@@babymammoth34 The five against one gang beatdown was for Ned to insure an absolute win to win over Julie with Eric being evenly matched to himself and Colonel Dugan's revenge for Eric leaving the Alpha Elite.
I agree by comparison. Ned, Eric and Dugan were above average skilled in hand to hand combat (Eric and Ned more skilled than your average teenage adolescent while Dugan would beat your average man in hand to hand combat one on one) but weak compared to Cobra Kai and the other Karate Kid villains. Cobra Kai would've beaten the Alpha Elite easily, I do agree. Karate vs army combatitive training.
No, Eric vs Ned wasn't a fair man to man brawl as it was supposed to be or even close to a fair fight but Ned would've beaten Eric even had Ned truly been alone at the docks and fought Eric hand to hand by himself with no back up. The Alphas took turns beating Eric up randomly attacking him in turn using Colonel Dugan's "Bull Ring " attack method where the bull, the target surrounded by the numbers of the group unit must defend themselves against the numbers of the wolf pack randomly attacking in turn without warning or proper preparation for the one on defense in the center having a fair chance to predict an attack or defend themselves fairly. Still as opposed to jumping Eric all at once at the same time but not fair regardless. But Eric hit all three of Ned's friends randomly attacking him in turn and beating him but Eric got countered and beat down to the ground every time Eric took a swing at Ned. Eric moved in on Ned first at full 💯 percent health and Ned effortlessly dropped Eric to the ground with a fake front kick to the body and a left elbow strike to the face. Eric elbowed Gabe in the gut or ribs to break out of a rear naked headlock, and Charlie knocked Eric down with a front kick to the chest, Eric got back to his feet and easily dropped Morgan with a single right hook to the jaw, swung at Ned again and Ned blocked and countered Eric's blow with a knee strike to the chest that beat Eric down to the ground again. Eric strangled Charlie in frustration, pain and anger as Charlie grabbed Eric to pick Eric up and take his turn before Ned rushed Eric from behind, put Eric in a submission headlock from behind, turning Eric around and dropping Eric again with an overhand left cross punch. Afterwards Ned's friends clobbered Eric with multiple punches and kicks to the face with Morgan beating Eric down with a retaliation hook punch for decking Morgan to the ground earlier in the gang vs one fight, Charlie beat Eric down again with an inner crescent kick to the head and Gabe finished Eric with a hook to the face. Ned's attacks did the most damage and Ned's three buddies only got any real free shots on Eric at the end of the gang beating after Eric was repeatedly dropped and beaten down to the ground by Ned three times in a row back to back. In the rooftop Ned dominated the mild one on one near brawl when Eric pushed Ned to the edge of the school rooftop and Ned quickly overpowered Eric by taking him down with a Judo throw and Ned pinned Eric to the ground of the rooftop, readied a right blow but Ned held back from the finishing blow as he had Eric subdued in the Judo throw combat takedown and Eric rolled Ned off and aside while Ned rolled through to his feet before Julie broke up the scuffle between the former enemy teammates. Even when Julie was nearly struggling to beat Ned one on one only because Ned blinded Julie with sand after Julie, with her newfound martial arts skills she learned from Mr. Miyagi and her late WWII veteran father, Miyagi's student in the military that taught Julie's dad the Miyagi-Doh Okinawan style of karate and Julie's father trained Julie in self-defense for several years of her childhood before Julie's parents died and Mr. Miyagi completed Julie's karate training her dad, Mr. Miyagi's old student in the Korean War, training Julie in two weeks at a Buddhist monastery. Although Miyagi didn't grow up in a monk monastery and grew up in the old Okinawan village but somehow knew the monks and was a friend to the Buddhist monks. Julie was completely inexperienced but knew enough about the Miyagi-Doh family Okinawan style of karate from her dead father who was under Mr. Miyagi in the Korean War and trained in Miyagi-Doh Okinawan bred karate by Mr. Miyagi and taught his daughter self-defense and many karate moves and a few skills before Julie's parents died years later. But deep down I believe Julie held onto the karate knowledge, and self-defense moves and attacks her late father taught Julie in her childhood and Mr. Miyagi completed Julie's karate training by training her for two weeks and while Julie was inexperienced in a real full on hand to hand combat situation in a bare handed street fight without rules or a referee or points but Julie's newfound confidence and her childhood karate training from her father that was a WWII veteran that was taught by Miyagi under Miyagi's command in the military and trained Julie throughout her early childhood and later in Julie's adolescent years Miyagi's two weeks of Miyagi-Doh Okinawan Karate training completed Julie's karate training and knowledge. Julie proved her newfound knowledge of Okinawan Karate she was taught by first her dead father for years in her childhood and by Mr. Miyagi years later as a teenager and Julie was a very fast, capable, skilled martial arts fighter. And battered Ned effortlessly and easily one on one although Ned was physically much larger, taller and ten times stronger but despite Ned's three years of army combatitive training from Colonel Dugan in the three years of his life in high-school Julie's martial arts skills she learned from her father and Mr. Miyagi embarrassed Ned horribly without Ned being able to land a strike or kick on Julie until he blinds her with sand, taking advantage as Julie threw a kick and Ned countered Julie's kick with a takedown to the ground before Julie recovered and beat Ned down for good with a high kick to the head. Ned was the weakest Karate Kid villain in hand to hand combat but physically strong individually and a very skilled combat student in Colonel Dugan's high-school security fraternity combat group against your average teenager in a hand to hand fight. But Julie's knowledge and skills of Miyagi-Doh karate wrecked Ned up and down. But Ned still would've kicked Eric's ass alone one on one. Ned and Colonel Dugan were the only two out of the five Alpha Elite members that could've beaten Eric one on one.
As much as I hate to admit it, analyzing the combat factors of the two Next Karate kid characters/rivals and former teammates of Eric McGowen and Ned in the rooftop 1 on 1 mild scuffle and here, Ned could've won a fair fight alone against Eric without his gang members/teammates and friends or Colonel Dugan. It was a true cowardly move luring Eric into a supposedly one on one brawl then ambushing Eric alongside three of his friends and Colonel Dugan. But imo Ned knew Eric was one of Dugan's two strongest, most skilled and toughest students besides himself alone and knew he possibly wouldn't take Eric alone and wasn't gonna fight fair and lose over the girl (Julie) so had his group members help him batter Eric 4 on 1 attacking Eric randomly taking turns attacking and beating him as Dugan watched. Still not a fair/true fight or close. But Eric moved in to hit Ned first before being pummeled by the numbers of the 4 and still got floored by Ned and dropped to the ground with a single knee body strike and left hook punch. After Eric easily elbows Gabe to get out of a headlock and gets kicked in the chest by Charlie, Eric floored Morgan in one blow effortlessly and swung at Ned again which Ned countered via a block and knee to the chest. Ned did the most damage to Eric of the five/four attacking. Ganging up was also to not just insure an absolute win for Ned personally but do worse damage and instill more fear and dominance and power. On the brief rooftop fight one on one Eric pushed Ned to the edge but Ned put forth no effort physically and quickly took Eric down, pinning him until Eric eventually rolled Ned off and Ned rolled through to get on his feet. Eric was strong and brave and a decent fighter but even one on one Ned would've won but it would've been a competitive, evenly matched fight. Eric would've destroyed Ned's buddies effortlessly and flawlessly one on one though. Granted Julie beat down Ned laughably flawlessly and easily without breaking a sweat, even after being blindsided by sand, but only being trained in months of extensive, knowledgeable Karate okinawan style by Miyagi as Daniel was vs Cobra Kai which surpassed the 2 or 3 years of army combatitive training Dugan's students had. And Ned mainly tried to use muscle as a adolescent alpha male jock twice her size more than actual skill. But Ned was a skilled academy combat trainee student in the JHROTC style high-school security group fraternity pledge run by Dugan and skilled/strong vs your average inexperienced punk kid or teenager in a fair physical fight. Eric was tough but Ned was more aggressive and powerful. He defended against and countered if not predicted every attack made by Eric in self defense or retaliation.
I just recently learned that the two actors that played these guys formed a good friendship off camera and hung out a lot. Hilary Swank joined them, too and hung out in the local Boston area where this was filmed and took place. pretty cool. They were tight enemies on screen but not the case in real life.
@@castortroy7704 It's somewhat hard to say for sure, which of them would cinch the fight and be the victor. I actually think they are pretty evenly matched and both powerfully built and swift fighters.
I think Johnny lawrence would be tougher than them both though and the other Karate Kid bullies. Ned was the least formidable and dangerous of the Karate kid bullies. he knew how to fight and deflect but was still the least skilled. Terry, chozen, and Mike Barnes were easily the most dangerous.
Then why didn't he just fight him 1 on 1. My theory is that if you ever feel like you need multiple people to jump in with you to beat down 1 guy, it's because you're intimidated or leary of that 1 guy. If you really wanted to prove your manhood, why would you need your friends to help you? Maybe he would win, though?!!
One on one in a "real" and "true" fair one on one fist fight/street fight between Eric Mcgowen and Ned Randall aka perverted obsessed stalker muscle head 90s reboot wannabe Johnny Lawrence, to Colonel Dugan's poor man's wannabe John Kreese from the Cobra Kai dojo, former Cobra Kai sensei and founder now incarcerated elderly convict on Cobra Kai TV show series, mano A mano, it would've been a very good, two sided, evenly matched, competitive fight but Ned still would've beaten Eric. Eric would've destroyed Ned's friends easily one on one though. Dugan beat Eric 1 v 1 in the schoolyard training bare knuckle sparring match despite Eric rocking Dugan with a sucker punch from behind before getting leveled. On the rooftop mild one on one scuffle Ned dominated too at the end via Judo throw and combat takedown after letting Eric shove Ned backwards to the edge of the high-school rooftop. Eric struck all three of Ned's friends randomly attacking him in turn vs jumping him all at once and Ned beat Eric down three times back to back every swing Eric took at Ned. Julie only battered Ned effortlessly, easily and flawlessly minus Ned's cheapshot via sand to the eyes, because Julie was actually trained in Miyagi-Doh Okinawan karate by her late Korean War veteran soldier late father throughout Julie's entire childhood until her parents died in her teenage adolescent years and Miyagi's short lived two weeks of Okinawan karate training at the Buddist monk temple monestary completed Julie's near half of a lifetime of training from Miyagi's late former friend, war comrade, lower ranking soldier cadet and student, who was Julie's father.
@@castortroy7704 Pretty sure him knocking down Eric was a good enough feat. Eric made the first move and still got knocked to the floor. Not sure what would've happened if everyone else didn't get involved but I think this scene proves Ned is a better fighter than Eric.
To be fair it was 5 on 1...it's not like Ned beat his ass 1 on 1. If the 5 of them had zeroed in on Julie she most likely would've gotten beaten down too.
Makes me laugh how Eric falls in the floor every time he gets hit. Can't take one hit without falling
It was Ned's blows that dropped him the most times. Aside from Charlie's chest kick. Ned's friends only got in real effective blows after Ned beat him down repeatedly in turn.
I love this comment
Love this scene Eric came along as a man an fought like a man
Ned whip that ass.
@Jack lol
Eric was the real winner here. He was outnumbered, kept getting knocked down, but he took it like a man. More man than all 5 of those losers combined
Eric was brave and a tough fighter, no doubt. I still think a one on one fist fight between Eric and Ned would've been close but Ned would've still won. Eric would've destroyed his buddies easily one on one though. Eric hit all three of Ned's friends randomly attacking him in turn vs jumping him all at once but Ned blocked and countered Eric's every punch and beat him down three times, plus pinned Eric with a Judo throw in their mild one on one scuffle on the rooftop. This was to insure an absolute victory for Ned because he wasn't gonna fight fair for the girl plus it was Dugan's personal revenge for Eric leaving the Alpha Elite.
So true and any man that thinks it’s funny and make a mockery out of another man’s literal pain is a coward in disguise.
Ned was laughing at Eric's inability to physically overpower him or strike him. The Alpha Elite members took turns attacking Eric randomly in turn as opposed to jumping him all at once, Eric hit all three of Ned's friends and teammates but Ned blocked and countered Eric's punches and beat Eric down three times plus pinned Eric with a Judo throw takedown and combat pin one on one on the high-school rooftop.
Eric easily got dropped by Ned.
Not really, Eric vs Ned...more like Eric vs. the entire Alpha elite.
@@afranks8566 Ned would've kicked his ass alone.
@@CoryThomas-b1b then why didn't he?
@@CoryThomas-b1b but he didn't, did he? So what's your point?
Kwon from season 6 would make easy work of ned and his buddies
Gotta give Eric credit the best he could
True. Ned fucking steam rolled him several times over. Ned did the most damage to Eric. He was hitting the other three Alpha Elite members attacking him randomly in turn but couldn't strike Ned once and got floored three times straight by Eric without being able to physically overcome or land defensive offense to Ned. Ned's friends really only got their free shots in after Ned beat Eric down with a fake knee strike to the body and an elbow strike to the face at one hundred percent charging Ned head on. Ned and his friends took turns attacking Eric randomly in turn versus jumping him all at once and Eric hit all of Ned's friends but couldn't hit Ned back once without getting dropped to the ground.
I wish Miyagi also taught Eric karate.
I wished they all tagged team together with Julie and Miyagi superior training and Eric's knowledge of alpha elites they take em out easily
Ned could've beaten Eric by himself in reality.
That's Absolutely True I wish Mr. Miyagi could have taught Eric How to do Karate That would have been awesome That's not fair to Eric McGowen That Eric was beaten to death
@@sethtejackson Not literally to death. But Ned and his wannabe Cobra Kai Alpha Elite fraternity teammates and friends gang beat Eric within an inch of his life. Colonel Dugan would've forced Ned and his group to kill Eric had Mr. Miyagi and Julie not shown up at the docks. Miyagi should've taught Eric karate, agreed. In addition to the army combatitive training Eric and his former teammates had from Dugan. Would've put up a much better fight if not won under training from Mr. Miyagi in Karate. But honestly Ned would've beaten Eric alone one on one regardless. Although it would have been an evenly matched street brawl. Ned was much stronger, aggressive and slightly more skilled in combat with Eric a close second as Dugan's best students. Eric hit all three of Ned's friends randomly attacking him in turn vs jumping him all at once, but got floored by Ned every time he swung at Ned in the 5 vs 1 gang beating.
But Julie received karate training in Okinawan karate from her late father, who was Miyagi's student and lower ranking soldier in WWII, where he learned Miyagi-Doh karate from Mr. Miyagi and passed it on to Julie as a child before Julie's parents died in her teenage years. Mr. Miyagi completed her training with the short two weeks of karate training at the Buddhist temple. And Julie used her lifetime of karate training to easily mop the floor with Ned effortlessly one on one. Ned and Eric were fairly strong, decent fighters against your average kid or teenager but weak against a more well trained, highly skilled and experienced martial artist.
Michael Cavalieri is a distanct cousin of myself in real life. He agreed Ned could've won one on one had he tried. He just wasn't gonna fight fair for the girl and it was Dugan's personal revenge. Eric would have destroyed Ned's boys one on one easily though. One on one it would have been close but Ned still would win. The rooftop fight proved who was overall stronger and more aggressive.
tell your cousin he needs to be in Cobra Kai plus i admired him alongside Jimmy Smits and Billy Blanks.
mike wouldve worked well with Wesley Snipes and Eric Palladino.
@@jakeytedesco3003 you see how many times Ned floored Eric? Really, the others only got any real affective free shots on Eric after Ned's attacks had already done the most damage. That was my other account by the way you responded to.
By the end of the clip, the students don't want to continue, they can see Eric has had enough, the cracks are already showing in their attitude towards Dugan, even before Julie and Mr Miyagi arrive and win their fights, ending Dugan's hold on his students
Yes.
I actually proctored an SAT at the high school in this movie. I never saw or knew they had this alpha elite security group there.
I love this movie
Same here! It's wicked cool, memorable, and badass! Dugan, Ned, and Eric rocked! Love their enemy-esque chemistry. I took my girlfriend to see this back in '94. Fun, simpler times.
At least they didn’t want to kill him.
But why blow up the car, C'mon...
Probably so be can't run away but idk
Colonel Dugan planned on forcing Ned and his friends to kill Eric. Unbeknownst to Ned and the other Alpha Elite members.
That’s a felony
@@castortroy7704 So Now Colonel Dugan is Bad News That’s Not What They Train For
That was so unfair😠
Rephrase: Eric vs Ned and his boyfriends
Ned would've won alone honestly.
🤣🤣🤣
@@castortroy7704 No I doubt that 😂
"You wanted me, right? Well you got it!" I think Ned was saying he was the best of the Alpha Elite and deep down likely thought he could surpass Dugan someday. Maybe I'm over analyzing.
Title should be Eric vs 5 idiots
You got it wrong, it's Eric vs the alpha elite
To his credit Ned did take Eric down on the rooftop though.
the fiery chemistry between ned and eric was so fun!
their back-and-forth was a high point among quite a few in this karate kid installment.
@@babymammoth34 imo Ned would've won alone and could've man to man. It would've been a close, competitive fight but Ned would've won. Given the rooftop fight and the fact Eric hit all three of Ned's friends but Ned blocked, countered and beat Eric down everytime Eric took a swing at him plus the Alpha Elite members took turns beating Eric up randomly attacking him in turn vs jumping him all at once like typical bullies and thugs. Eric would've mopped the floor with Ned's friends easily one on one though.
@@babymammoth34 The five against one gang beatdown was for Ned to insure an absolute win to win over Julie with Eric being evenly matched to himself and Colonel Dugan's revenge for Eric leaving the Alpha Elite.
god i love ned - michael 😍🤩🥰
0:58 Round 1 FIGHT!!!!!
Ned kicked Eric's ass.
This makes me think of the "1, 5, 7, 3" kind of training that Daniel teaches at Miyagi Do in Cobra Kai. Anticipate.
Johnny and Daniel should beat Ned and his friends’ asses up🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
These guys are so terrible that KK1 Cobra Kai’s would’ve made easy work of them
I agree by comparison. Ned, Eric and Dugan were above average skilled in hand to hand combat (Eric and Ned more skilled than your average teenage adolescent while Dugan would beat your average man in hand to hand combat one on one) but weak compared to Cobra Kai and the other Karate Kid villains. Cobra Kai would've beaten the Alpha Elite easily, I do agree. Karate vs army combatitive training.
Ned Said to Eric That They Can Finished One Way or another But Not What He Want it
Wax on wax off 👴🏼 👩🏻🦰
Who came up with this script
People, now get losf
x66Alex what's wrong with it? pretty off-the-hook and badass from where I'm sittin'
Eric McGowen
"Remember the bullring, McGowan??"
Ned kicked Eric's ass.
No, Eric vs Ned wasn't a fair man to man brawl as it was supposed to be or even close to a fair fight but Ned would've beaten Eric even had Ned truly been alone at the docks and fought Eric hand to hand by himself with no back up. The Alphas took turns beating Eric up randomly attacking him in turn using Colonel Dugan's "Bull Ring " attack method where the bull, the target surrounded by the numbers of the group unit must defend themselves against the numbers of the wolf pack randomly attacking in turn without warning or proper preparation for the one on defense in the center having a fair chance to predict an attack or defend themselves fairly. Still as opposed to jumping Eric all at once at the same time but not fair regardless. But Eric hit all three of Ned's friends randomly attacking him in turn and beating him but Eric got countered and beat down to the ground every time Eric took a swing at Ned. Eric moved in on Ned first at full 💯 percent health and Ned effortlessly dropped Eric to the ground with a fake front kick to the body and a left elbow strike to the face. Eric elbowed Gabe in the gut or ribs to break out of a rear naked headlock, and Charlie knocked Eric down with a front kick to the chest, Eric got back to his feet and easily dropped Morgan with a single right hook to the jaw, swung at Ned again and Ned blocked and countered Eric's blow with a knee strike to the chest that beat Eric down to the ground again. Eric strangled Charlie in frustration, pain and anger as Charlie grabbed Eric to pick Eric up and take his turn before Ned rushed Eric from behind, put Eric in a submission headlock from behind, turning Eric around and dropping Eric again with an overhand left cross punch. Afterwards Ned's friends clobbered Eric with multiple punches and kicks to the face with Morgan beating Eric down with a retaliation hook punch for decking Morgan to the ground earlier in the gang vs one fight, Charlie beat Eric down again with an inner crescent kick to the head and Gabe finished Eric with a hook to the face. Ned's attacks did the most damage and Ned's three buddies only got any real free shots on Eric at the end of the gang beating after Eric was repeatedly dropped and beaten down to the ground by Ned three times in a row back to back. In the rooftop Ned dominated the mild one on one near brawl when Eric pushed Ned to the edge of the school rooftop and Ned quickly overpowered Eric by taking him down with a Judo throw and Ned pinned Eric to the ground of the rooftop, readied a right blow but Ned held back from the finishing blow as he had Eric subdued in the Judo throw combat takedown and Eric rolled Ned off and aside while Ned rolled through to his feet before Julie broke up the scuffle between the former enemy teammates. Even when Julie was nearly struggling to beat Ned one on one only because Ned blinded Julie with sand after Julie, with her newfound martial arts skills she learned from Mr. Miyagi and her late WWII veteran father, Miyagi's student in the military that taught Julie's dad the Miyagi-Doh Okinawan style of karate and Julie's father trained Julie in self-defense for several years of her childhood before Julie's parents died and Mr. Miyagi completed Julie's karate training her dad, Mr. Miyagi's old student in the Korean War, training Julie in two weeks at a Buddhist monastery. Although Miyagi didn't grow up in a monk monastery and grew up in the old Okinawan village but somehow knew the monks and was a friend to the Buddhist monks. Julie was completely inexperienced but knew enough about the Miyagi-Doh family Okinawan style of karate from her dead father who was under Mr. Miyagi in the Korean War and trained in Miyagi-Doh Okinawan bred karate by Mr. Miyagi and taught his daughter self-defense and many karate moves and a few skills before Julie's parents died years later. But deep down I believe Julie held onto the karate knowledge, and self-defense moves and attacks her late father taught Julie in her childhood and Mr. Miyagi completed Julie's karate training by training her for two weeks and while Julie was inexperienced in a real full on hand to hand combat situation in a bare handed street fight without rules or a referee or points but Julie's newfound confidence and her childhood karate training from her father that was a WWII veteran that was taught by Miyagi under Miyagi's command in the military and trained Julie throughout her early childhood and later in Julie's adolescent years Miyagi's two weeks of Miyagi-Doh Okinawan Karate training completed Julie's karate training and knowledge. Julie proved her newfound knowledge of Okinawan Karate she was taught by first her dead father for years in her childhood and by Mr. Miyagi years later as a teenager and Julie was a very fast, capable, skilled martial arts fighter. And battered Ned effortlessly and easily one on one although Ned was physically much larger, taller and ten times stronger but despite Ned's three years of army combatitive training from Colonel Dugan in the three years of his life in high-school Julie's martial arts skills she learned from her father and Mr. Miyagi embarrassed Ned horribly without Ned being able to land a strike or kick on Julie until he blinds her with sand, taking advantage as Julie threw a kick and Ned countered Julie's kick with a takedown to the ground before Julie recovered and beat Ned down for good with a high kick to the head. Ned was the weakest Karate Kid villain in hand to hand combat but physically strong individually and a very skilled combat student in Colonel Dugan's high-school security fraternity combat group against your average teenager in a hand to hand fight. But Julie's knowledge and skills of Miyagi-Doh karate wrecked Ned up and down. But Ned still would've kicked Eric's ass alone one on one. Ned and Colonel Dugan were the only two out of the five Alpha Elite members that could've beaten Eric one on one.
Dugan would've, but I'm not sure Ned would've? Maybe, maybe not. If he was truly confident that he could, then why didn't he?!!
is That What Ned Want it
Ned’s a cowward
Eric can't fight he's so much like Daniel was 😂 lol.Poor Eric lost his classic car,hope his insurance will help him out
Eric was outnumbered
@@joewhitehead3 Even one on one Ned would've won but Eric would've put up a good fight and it would've been close.
@@castortroy7704 “Daniel cant fight” when hes above all of his villians later in KK3
@@Usernamelol45yea that’s bc he knew martial arts by then😂Eric don’t know Jack shi bros needs kickboxing training 😭
Dude, he's outnumbered 5 to 1. If anything, I think it was a moral win for him.
As much as I hate to admit it, analyzing the combat factors of the two Next Karate kid characters/rivals and former teammates of Eric McGowen and Ned in the rooftop 1 on 1 mild scuffle and here, Ned could've won a fair fight alone against Eric without his gang members/teammates and friends or Colonel Dugan. It was a true cowardly move luring Eric into a supposedly one on one brawl then ambushing Eric alongside three of his friends and Colonel Dugan. But imo Ned knew Eric was one of Dugan's two strongest, most skilled and toughest students besides himself alone and knew he possibly wouldn't take Eric alone and wasn't gonna fight fair and lose over the girl (Julie) so had his group members help him batter Eric 4 on 1 attacking Eric randomly taking turns attacking and beating him as Dugan watched. Still not a fair/true fight or close. But Eric moved in to hit Ned first before being pummeled by the numbers of the 4 and still got floored by Ned and dropped to the ground with a single knee body strike and left hook punch. After Eric easily elbows Gabe to get out of a headlock and gets kicked in the chest by Charlie, Eric floored Morgan in one blow effortlessly and swung at Ned again which Ned countered via a block and knee to the chest. Ned did the most damage to Eric of the five/four attacking. Ganging up was also to not just insure an absolute win for Ned personally but do worse damage and instill more fear and dominance and power. On the brief rooftop fight one on one Eric pushed Ned to the edge but Ned put forth no effort physically and quickly took Eric down, pinning him until Eric eventually rolled Ned off and Ned rolled through to get on his feet. Eric was strong and brave and a decent fighter but even one on one Ned would've won but it would've been a competitive, evenly matched fight. Eric would've destroyed Ned's buddies effortlessly and flawlessly one on one though. Granted Julie beat down Ned laughably flawlessly and easily without breaking a sweat, even after being blindsided by sand, but only being trained in months of extensive, knowledgeable Karate okinawan style by Miyagi as Daniel was vs Cobra Kai which surpassed the 2 or 3 years of army combatitive training Dugan's students had. And Ned mainly tried to use muscle as a adolescent alpha male jock twice her size more than actual skill. But Ned was a skilled academy combat trainee student in the JHROTC style high-school security group fraternity pledge run by Dugan and skilled/strong vs your average inexperienced punk kid or teenager in a fair physical fight. Eric was tough but Ned was more aggressive and powerful. He defended against and countered if not predicted every attack made by Eric in self defense or retaliation.
I just recently learned that the two actors that played these guys formed a good friendship off camera and hung out a lot. Hilary Swank joined them, too and hung out in the local Boston area where this was filmed and took place. pretty cool. They were tight enemies on screen but not the case in real life.
@@babymammoth34 Do you agree with my analysis? How do you think Eric vs Ned one on one would go? It'd be a competitive brawl.
@@castortroy7704 It's somewhat hard to say for sure, which of them would cinch the fight and be the victor. I actually think they are pretty evenly matched and both powerfully built and swift fighters.
I think Johnny lawrence would be tougher than them both though and the other Karate Kid bullies. Ned was the least formidable and dangerous of the Karate kid bullies. he knew how to fight and deflect but was still the least skilled. Terry, chozen, and Mike Barnes were easily the most dangerous.
@@babymammoth34 but if you had to bet for sure who would your money be on? It'd be close but I got Ned.
This scene and the bungie jump in the prom auditorium was the corniest. The bungie jump had no point to it. They were acting like wannabe commandos.
wow
Ned was gonna win regardless.
Then why didn't he just fight him 1 on 1. My theory is that if you ever feel like you need multiple people to jump in with you to beat down 1 guy, it's because you're intimidated or leary of that 1 guy. If you really wanted to prove your manhood, why would you need your friends to help you? Maybe he would win, though?!!
At alexandre quirino you are not a real karate kid and cobra Kai fan the real ones like all of it
One on one in a "real" and "true" fair one on one fist fight/street fight between Eric Mcgowen and Ned Randall aka perverted obsessed stalker muscle head 90s reboot wannabe Johnny Lawrence, to Colonel Dugan's poor man's wannabe John Kreese from the Cobra Kai dojo, former Cobra Kai sensei and founder now incarcerated elderly convict on Cobra Kai TV show series, mano A mano, it would've been a very good, two sided, evenly matched, competitive fight but Ned still would've beaten Eric. Eric would've destroyed Ned's friends easily one on one though. Dugan beat Eric 1 v 1 in the schoolyard training bare knuckle sparring match despite Eric rocking Dugan with a sucker punch from behind before getting leveled. On the rooftop mild one on one scuffle Ned dominated too at the end via Judo throw and combat takedown after letting Eric shove Ned backwards to the edge of the high-school rooftop. Eric struck all three of Ned's friends randomly attacking him in turn vs jumping him all at once and Ned beat Eric down three times back to back every swing Eric took at Ned. Julie only battered Ned effortlessly, easily and flawlessly minus Ned's cheapshot via sand to the eyes, because Julie was actually trained in Miyagi-Doh Okinawan karate by her late Korean War veteran soldier late father throughout Julie's entire childhood until her parents died in her teenage adolescent years and Miyagi's short lived two weeks of Okinawan karate training at the Buddist monk temple monestary completed Julie's near half of a lifetime of training from Miyagi's late former friend, war comrade, lower ranking soldier cadet and student, who was Julie's father.
This movie is so bad👎👎
worst karate kid movie ever!
THIS MOVIE IS INCREDIBLE
@@Chitownmadematt It's Terrible!
One Of My Best favorite movies ever.
Karate kid 3 is pretty shit
Who would've won a true one on one?
Probably Ned.
@@H.K.5 why? And why didn't he fight alone?
@@castortroy7704 He managed to knock Eric to the floor before everyone else got involved.
@@H.K.5 Ok? What other factors and feats?
@@castortroy7704 Pretty sure him knocking down Eric was a good enough feat. Eric made the first move and still got knocked to the floor. Not sure what would've happened if everyone else didn't get involved but I think this scene proves Ned is a better fighter than Eric.
Eric could never be the man in the relationship with Julie after that
Ned stomped him.
To be fair it was 5 on 1...it's not like Ned beat his ass 1 on 1. If the 5 of them had zeroed in on Julie she most likely would've gotten beaten down too.
@@CoryThomas-b1bwrong, the alpha elite stomped him
@@afranks8566 Ned would've beat his ass one on one.
@@CoryThomas-b1b so why didn't he?!