I really enjoyed that. No flashy edits, just some good clear personal thoughts - and that's really important, everyone has a different relationship to every shoe which is why your end result caught me and I suspect many others by surprise by being the shoe that is probably least acclaimed in the shoe-tuber world. Also, appreciate your comments on the Nova 3 lean back sensation, I had the same in OG Metaspeed Sky to the extent I was definitely in negative drop (chubby runner/soft foam/low drop) and my calfs were SCREAMING....
Thanks for sharing Russell. I was just researching reviews on the metaspeed Sky + and I read a few times that it felt like a negative drop and that the calves were screaming. Also, that by mile 15, the magic was gone and the foam dulled, which I think is kind of the case with original metaspeed and with Novablast 3. :/
Found your channel because i’m looking for my first pair of running shoes (size 9US btw 😎). Like the honesty and real feel review. Really help me to understand the shoes even before i try it.
Just ran my first 10km in the Rebel v3 - awesome feeling!!! I love them!!! So much fun, the bounce and the softness are amazing... It really surprised me too how stable I was running in them!
Great video Andrew. Thanks for the comparison. I have the Endorphin Speed 3 and am loving it so far. I tried the Novablast 3 as well when I got it, and it didn't feel as responsive at the time.
Thanks for the feedback. They definitely have two different landing 🛬 feels for me so I can totally see getting along very well with one but not the other
I love the rebel V3. It is so soft yet energetic, I reach for it all the time. I’ve had the 1&2’s in speed and novablast, but didn’t go back for their V3.
Thanks for the review, just bought the rebel to use it for tempo, but now intend to use it for recovery due to to my recent plantar faciitis but those fuelcell midsole seems soft enough, love the way you compare those shoes, straight to the point and sharing your personal taste 👍
New subscriber. Your rationale on why you won’t run in the Endo Speed 3 is SO TRUE! I have several shoes in that same group! Lol! Thanks for the comparisons!
Great presentation, I loved the Rebel V2s last year, they were so fun to run in, and I've found the V3s discounted so I'll go for them even though I don't expect them to last very long. I also just passed the 600 km mark in my Speed 1s, they are so good for tempo and interval workouts, and their foam is very resilient. I agree with you regarding the speed 3s, they would work for somebody with one or two pair of shoes, but for people with a larger rotation, they lack a bit of specific purpose in my opinion.
Thanks for watching . Releasing another battle tomorrow - 300 mile reviews of metaspeed Sky , Novablast 2 and Nike invincible run . I think your rebel v3 May last longer than you think 🤔
Nice review, couldn’t disagree more though with your conclusions on the Saucony 3. I have worn all of these shoes and really love the Speed 3. I agree with a lot of what you said about the Speed 3, it just works for me. I am a heel striking shuffler so that’s probably why. Just discovered your channel and really enjoying the content!
Awesome ! Disagreements are 100% welcome here. Im glad it works for you . Thanks 🙏🏼 for setting time aside to watch the channel. I appreciate the support
I randomly stumbled on the channel while researching low heart rate training. I enjoy your shoe reviews but would like to see more of your training as you continue your progress. Congrats on your recent marathon PR.
Lol so random. Exactly the same for me, have been watching a few videos on low heart rate training and this video popped up on my feed. Was looking to buy the Novablast3 so gave it a watch. Would also like to see some more training videos.
Congrats on your 1000 subscribers! 🎉 Good review. Great analogies. The Endorphins still feel very responsive compared to many duds out there. Try the Hoka Clifton for instance 😂
Thanks Eric! they are all great shoes compared to most daily trainers. Some people were hyped on the Ride and the Triumph but they were just okay. I haven’t run in a Hoka in a couple of years. The platform on their shoes are all so wide that it forces my foot strike/form and my shins or feet hurt after 1 to 2 runs. Do you have any shoes that promote injury ? 😂
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Wow, awesome. I’ve run in all three but stuck with the Rebel 3…love the Rebel 3 and yes to me the upper improved over V2. I wanted to love the Speed3 (because of all the hype), so I purchased it, not once, not twice…but 3 times. Testing on an indoor track each time before eventually returning. The upper felt like a step back from V1, great at faster pace exactly how you explained it with animation and then the fact that I’m not a heal striker. Feels like I’m wasting the back half of the shoe. Hope they don’t mess the Rebel 3 up next iteration. I don’t need more cushion than what it’s got. There’s other shoes out there if we want super cush high stack. Rebel is fun and so versatile because the shoe does not lock you into a running category as much as the others do.
I agree 100 percent. I heard they are taking a little more away for rebel v4. If the 4 becomes more of a speed day shoe and less daily training, I’ll buy another v3 on sale
Great review! I used the Speed 2's and Novablast 2 briefly and as much as I wanted to love those shoes I got knee problems pretty quickly using both of them. The Speeds was after a few weeks and the Novablast was almost immedielty (even after walking for about an hour in them). I've heard stability issues have been worked out in them but somewhat hesitant to try them considering how annoying those injuries were to recover from. Hoping to try them though and give them another chance with the new models! The V3 seems like something to check out too for sure! Great content looking forward to more.
Thanks for checking it out . I think the Novablast line has been unstable from the get go. In #1 it was more in the heel. In number two it felt stable all over with the added foam up front. Number 3 is hard on my calves as it’s so bulbous up front and I still feel it is unstable. I would steer clear if I were you.
Very good to know! Thank you for the heads-up and for saving me from spending too much time on that, glad to know it wasn't just me on the Nova 2's. Been running in the ASICS Noosa Tri 14's and have been able to use them for everything and love them and have had no issues. Going to run my first marathon in them in Chicago in about a week but going to look for a more dedicated racing shoe after the race. Any recommendations in terms of a more stable racing shoe? @@MidLifeRunner
I loved the Speed 1!! Just found you on RUclips. The thing I appreciate most in this video is that you cut to how it feels to run in the shoes rather than going into all the specs and such.
@@MidLifeRunner I do, actually!!! I also had some friends who ran The Woodlands. Just watched your recap. I know you were hot, but my friends were an hour or more behind you and they got toasty. That said, I had a similar experience at The Cowtown. I was trying to go sub 3:10 and fell apart the last few miles. Went 3:13 and change. I really appreciate your evaluation, and you gave me some things to think about. Just found your channel and I'm really enjoying it! I know your Woodlands gets you into Boston 24, but will you be there this year?
@@neely4606 if you email me your address to Texasand80@gmail.com, I can send those out this week. This was my first time qualifying for Boston, actually. I ran the Chicago marathon in 3:11:02 or something but received the gun time of 3:19 because I wore a jacket over my bib. I thought I was on pace for a 3:08/3:09. Whoops. It did get warm very fast and I felt bad for the 4-5 hour marathoners because it would be exponentially more difficult to finish strong. After Buffalo in May I’m going to take off from training and do some base building until fall. What do you have planned next ?
@@MidLifeRunner I'm doing the quick turnaround from Cowtown to Boston. I qualified at last year's Cowtown (I'm 48) with a 3:15:45. I'm currently annoying all my friends talking about it nonstop. Lol. Congrats on your BQ. It's a big deal. You're clearly way under the standard, and got that in a relatively warm marathon, but celebrate the crap out of that, my friend!! It's taken me a year to think of myself as a Boston qualifier. But, it's really a big deal.
@@neely4606 flex as you should ! Congrats on the BQ two times over. Hopefully the shoes give you a couple hundred solid miles . It’s a good shoe just not for me
Exactly the comparison I was looking for! I was leaning towards the Rebel v3 for some of my faster training. I don't mind it can't do recovery or long runs, I've got the Triumph 20 for that.
I completely agree with you on the Endorphin Speeds. I have 2 pairs of Speed 2 and both have the same issue of the forefoot section of the midsole already bottoming out within 100 miles (heels are still squishy). When they were fresh, they were great and felt like they were "tuned" for speedwork frequency/tempo. Just ordered some Rebel V3 for $53 on sale and really looking forward to trying them out.
Nice honest review. Have to disagree with your speed 3 review but i guess everyone has a different feel and opinion i love the speed 3. Im a forefoot/ mid foot runner depending on the distance. Been training with the speed 3 at all speeds and love them. Totally recommend them from slow runs to tempo to intervals. I got them for training to recover better due to their nylon plate is more forgiven.
Hey, I wish nothing but the best for my fellow Runner’s so I am really glad the shoe works for you. The plate is definitely more forgiving than the stiffer plates like in the Vaporfly (for me). Did you get on with the speed 1/2? I still really love that shoe
@@MidLifeRunner I’m Ronald McDonald size 11 🤦🏻♂️ 🔴👟😂🤣😂. Hope this shoe giveaway help to get more people to see your videos. They just don’t know they are missing out 🤷🏻♂️😆😆. Keep the good videos going 🙌🏼.
Great video! Love the no nonsense, get down to it review. After getting the Endorphin Speed 2’s on sale last summer I can never go back to a standard EVA midsole. Grabbed another pair on sale from the saucony site back in December. Before I got the speed 2’s I tried the Rebel V2 and despite reviews stating how fun it was to run in, it did nothing for me. Maybe because I’m 210 lbs? Just got nothing from the midsole. Hoping to pick up a pair of Pro 3’s if/when they go on sale.
💯. I had three pairs of Speed 1s and am also waiting on the Pro 3 to go on sale. The Rebel V2 was kind of an in between shoe. It didn’t have enough underfoot for me for daily miles (6-7 at a time). And it also didn’t have much snap for speed day, so I put some miles in it but it wasn’t too special. V3 feels different but doesn’t have a plate like speed 2
@@MidLifeRunner I would also have to agree that the Speed 1 is the GOAT. The first time I ran in that shoe it was such a game changer for me, felt I could just fly in that one compared to any other shoe I had ever worn. Speed 2 and 3 are okay, but not the same. Like some people to this day still harken back to the original Clifton, I think the same will happen with the Speed lineup in the years ahead.
i had the rebel v3 for a few months. maybe it was because it wasn’t the right size (1 size too big) but i definitely think the novablast excels in stability way more than the rebel and the energy return and the springyness of the shoe without sacrificing cushioning definitely hits the spot for me.
Thanks for sharing the feedback. I’ve got some decent miles in the Novablast and really enjoy it also. I think sizing does affect the ride for sure, especially if it’s too long. I’m about to do a follow up video on rebel v3 after 200 miles and sc trainer after 300 miles, if I could buy one. How they’re holding up. I think the Novablast can go 500+
Thanks for a great review. Two of your three shoes are from the Boston companies (NB & Saucony) that got me to the Boston Marathon. I was curious how they compared to the Asics.
I’m with you on the Speed 3. I think that it’s a good daily trainer but I also don’t feel the plate in it or the propulsive roll that it had in the 1 and 2. I actually struggle to get that shoe up to 5k pace and hold it, since it feels bigger, softer, and just lacks that pop at toe off. For me the Speed 3 actually works best at easier paces where I can just relax in it and enjoy the cushioned ride. But I shed a tear for the loss of the near perfection that was the Speed 1. I really liked the Rebel v2. I haven’t tried the V3 yet. Perhaps I’ll look for a pair of those on sale.
I have 178 miles on v2 and about 50 on the first pair before they ripped. I loved it but it did bottom out a little. I used for 6-8 mile runs. V3 is a step up. I got them for 83 dollars on running warehouse . So solid . I got a notification you emailed but haven’t checked that account in a while. I’ll check it out later and get back to you
@@MidLifeRunner No worries on the email. I took my Rebel V2's on vacation when I just wanted to bring one running shoe. Could handle faster paces as well as daily miles and the Fuelcell Foam is very comfortable to walk around in. Those shoes were so light and bouncy. You could feel them bottoming out on long runs though. I retired my V2s just after I passed 200 miles in them. The outsole rubber was worn down really badly. I find the rubber in a lot of NB shoes to be very soft and it tends to wear out faster than the outsoles of a lot of other brands. Except Hoka. I had a pair of the first model year of Rincons that disintegrated after like 50 miles. Light and fast but probably the worst durability of any running shoe I've ever had.
I really like the New Balance Rebel v2 I did 3 marathons in the Rebel v2 & got pb s each time, now that the Rebel is done over 500k thinking getting the novablast 3 or the Rebel v3 mmm can’t decide thanks for the review 👍🏼👏🌿👣🍀🥳
Thanks for sharing! Wow, that's wild about the v2. You might consider getting another v2 on discount with the rate of PBs it's earning you. Rebel V3 is so solid. I love the fuel cell foam
You are 100% correct about the feelings of Novablast 1, 2 and 2! To me, the Novablast 1 was the most exciting development in running shoes in this price range, it was bouncy and it propelled you forward. Like you, I am using the Novablast 2 for the recovery runs and works great for that, I just don't get the forward propulsion and so its not for anything faster than a recovery run. Now with my Novablast 3, its not as recovery type shoe as N2 yet it seems a bit slower and more stable than N1 and as you say it almost feels like it is angle backwards almost like a zero drop, so again it has lost the Novablast "magic". I also find that it is the firmest of all the Novablast versions. Having said all that, I used it for the long training runs from 25km to 32km and it worked really well for that. I found my legs stayed fairly fresh, and it really protected my achilles which tend to niggle with softer more cushioned shoes. I just found them a bit "clunky" for the actual marathon race I was training for as they are the widest of all the Novablasts which I presume that made like this to add stability.
Very well put on the Novablast 3 and thank you for all the feedback/confirmation. The 3 was a bit clunky overall. There is just so much shoe, that I have to focus more than I would like on my foot strike . Seeing that the number 4 is more of a cruiser also, but yet also more firm than the 3, makes me think I will wait until next year when they go on sale . What I loved about the Novablast was the magical bounce and propulsion which I don’t feel in 3 as much as others do. The new balance sc elite v3 gives me a similar propulsion forward . The energy arc tech only in general does
Thanks for sharing. I think the Novablast and speed 3 are opposites in a way when it comes to foot strike so I don’t think you’re missing out in anything
@@MidLifeRunner I took a chance on them via Kofuzi's review and was pleasantly surprised. Grabbed some Speed 3s on sale this wk. Eager to see if the hype is real.
I realize this video is older but I just watched it. Couldn’t disagree more about the Endorphin Speed 3. I’m on my second pair. I use the Hanson’s Marathon Method plan and Speed 3 for all my SoS days. I think they’re best with mid to forefoot strike marathon pace or faster. I prefer them to my Endorphin Pro 3s and have debated using them for my next marathon. Fantastic shoe.
I appreciate the feedback. Every shoe works different for different runners and strides. Ironically, I felt the same way about the Speed 1 and 2. I had multiple pairs and I preferred them over the Pro 1 and the Pro 2. I do think Speed 3 is best at faster paces too. I’m glad the shoe works well for you and I appreciate the watch
I love my Novablast 3 shoes. I guess I am a forefoot striker because these shoes feel excellent and responsive. I have the Speed 3’s and I like them, but mainly because they are comfortable. They fit my foot well and they feel very light. They do not feet responsive to me. I got both shoes for a pretty good deal. My Novablast’s I paid $80 U.S and my Speed 3’s $120 U.S.
I have the speed 1. Great value at a discounted price. It's a fast shoe, but it doesn't fit my running form. I think it's faster than the novablast 1, but I enjoy running in the nb way more. I found three pairs recently.
@@MidLifeRunner you right sir drew for me the bounciest midsole I've got so far but the upper nah. Hahahahahha the shoe lace is too short I can't do the runner's knot.
Great Shoe Review ❤ I feel that I'm a heel striker So whats the trigger point pace on the Endorphins Speed 3 So I can feel like I'm skipping rocks Instead of sinking in playdoe
🙏🏼 thank you. Rest assured I will always be honest. Next month I’m going to do a “run the shoes you’re in” series of my Anti-shoe rotation of duds and “just a shoe” that I’m working through the miles to get my money’s worth, but would pass on
Hey, thanks for the video. I am in preparation for my 1st marathon and looking for a new shoe for long runs (25k+), any suggestion? I usually go for my novablast 2, but it's already over 800km and it might not last much more, so I need to prepare myself for a new one. Recently I though on novablast 3, puma velocity 2, or maybe even 1080v12 (which currently is my last option, I might not enjoy it too much due to lack of bouncy feeling). I love asics a lot, but prices are crazy recently, so looking for a good promotion
Awesome to hear on the marathon! Affordable long run shoe, 🤔 I would say the SC trainer on discount. I’m at 400km and it’s feeling great still. It IS heavy compared to Novablast 2 so there is that. SC Trainer 2 is bouncier and lighter than #1 but full price at 180. Those are fuel cell foam shoes from NB and I like that line from them. Novablast 3 is a good daily trainer but isn’t as comfortable or long runy as v2 for me. I haven’t tried the velocity 2 so I can’t speak it. If you do go with Puma, let me know how it feels in comparison to the Novablast 2. Or maybe just get another pair of Novablast 2 if you can find them
Novablast felt like running with a pebble under my forefoot. The pod really bothered me and I couldn’t run more than once or twice in them. The rebels sound great but v2 felt a bit unstable to me.
Im with you on the Novablast. I feel like if I don’t run up more on the forefoot, I don’t get the energy return and the shoe works against me. I felt the same way about rebel v2. I didn’t like them past 6 miles. The rebel v3 widened the platform and is more stable. I think they’re worth looking into for 50-60 dollars on sale if you don’t already have preferred brands that really work with your stride
Great review and video but I'm so disappointed as a huge fan of Saucony😃 Had a couple of Ride and tried the Endo Speed 2... Love them! These brought me to Endo Shift 3 for recovery runs (not convinced yet and not sure if I prefer these to the Ride) and finnaly to the Endo Pro 3 (just to give me all the chances when racing... Even if I'm still a very average runner 🤣 Will have to think twice now when renewing the Speed ;-) Yes do not take it personal... they'll come!
Thank you 🙏🏼. I also love Saucony shoes. I am waiting for the Pro 3 to go on discount. I know they were a lot of reviewers favorite racer from last year
I literally feel like I could run around the globe in the saucony endorphin speed 3s. What does this say about me?! I like putty, maybe. I grew up as a runner in the kinvaras so maybe that’s part of it but now you’ve sold me on the Rebels - that’s what I’m trying next. I got the SC trainers v1 and felt like I was running in bricks. How do people run in those??? But the Rebels sound good. Thanks for a great review.
🙏🏼 Kinvaras! I am more of a “less” than more as well but I do enjoy a well done stacked shoe. Kinvaras are so cheap, same with the trinoosa I got for $50. Those have a similar feel too. Rebels are a little bouncier but they’re fun. Thanks for watching
Indeed. I know many people who love the speed 3. Someone said I needed a stability shoe ? I don’t know but I am open to it! Thank you watching and sharing
Saucony Tempus is a mild stability shoe, it has ample cushion to ensure the foot is protected as an alternative to the neutral speed3 but speed3 hugs my foot, may be it is due to the S curve tech but it feels good to me hence I went for speed3. Speed3 does not feel blazing fast though. For speed, Endorphin Pro3 is a better option but I felt it is non versatile compared to speed3. it feels super light, cushy and very bouncy! also it feels wobbly and strange when you walk with it but feels normal when you pick up pace :-) so pro3 felt like a Lamborgini which feels clunky when you drive that in slow 20 mph speed but feels very normal when you race with it. Nice video, keep it coming please!
I have the Speed 2 and 3 and the Speed 2 is much snappier then Speed 3. I don't really like the Novablast 3. My feet slap the ground fast making it hard to run fast and my feet swell after the run because of the constant slapping of the foot.. Speed 3 is to mushy for me. Speed 2 is so much better. I had the REBEL V2 but it felt unstructured and I hurt my metatarsal on the stones in the road. I don't know if they improved the outsole on my REBEL V3 so stones don't hurt your feet.
Speed 1/2 had the snap and I’m disappointed it went away, however it is supposed to be coming back. Rebel v3 has A LOT more structure/wider base, however 27.5 inches of fuel cell foam isn’t enough to protect against rocks. The outsole is roughly the same, slightly more protection but it doesn’t provide much again the fuel cell
Great review! Unsubscribed, Speed 3 is my favorite!! (Kidding about the unsub)… I ran my first marathons in the Speed 3 last year and continue to use them (because, um, $170). But the points you make are valid and I’ve learned a ton about my running style and rotate the 3 in less and less these days. Def leaves the legs beat up for longer distances, which I didn’t realize as I was/am a noob! Thanks again for this one!
😂 thanks for the unsub!! I actually watch some shoetubers who tend to like shoes I do not, so if they love a shoe I know to stay away from it. 😬 so, worst case, if I hate a shoe, buy it immediately. How long have you been running? They say you get to call yourself new the first 3-5 years so I’m still hiding under that umbrella
I cannot say confidently as I have not dipped my toes into ultras. My best guess is the Asics Superblast because of all the protection underfoot without being as heavy as the Nike invincible and SC Trainer. I can’t imagine any shoe feeling comfortable after 100 miles. Let me know how it goes and what you went with
It CAN do 13. I would feel comfortable doing a race in them . But i feel it in my legs knees and below after 10+ … not terribly but I have enough other options , I would rather go for another shoe
I'm a heavy runner, and I've been running in shoes with lower stacks and lower drops. I couldn't adapt to the NovaBlast, the shoes sink too much, and require more muscular effort, which caused me fatigue and pain.
thanks for the feedback. Let me know what shoes really work for you. I get a lot of questions from heavy runners and at 150-155lbs I can't really say but would love to have references to tell them.
My weigh is about 191 lbs, have a supinated stride and land on mid foot. For me, shoes with lower drops, firmer cushioning and lower stack high work best. Also my English is not strong. @@MidLifeRunner
It’s hard to say because I do not know how the issues impact your landing. I think the SC trainer is a SUPER stable recovery shoe that promotes a healthy foot strike or roll through. Whereas something like the Nike invincible forces my ankles and feet to flex/work a lot to balance my landing. Trails, I wish I had to more time to drive out to but with three kids, it’s too challenging to make the time . Hope this helps
Hi mate, I'm about to travel. Can you recommend me a good road running shoe that can be used in the gym and casual wear? I'm not looking for something performance-heavy, I just need an all-rounder. Since I'll also be wearing it for casual wear, I want it to be comfortable and I don't need it to "stand out" like most running shoes, but if it can't be helped, i'll still wear something "flashy"
I like something not too soft for casual wear. The Nike Vomero 17 but not sure it looks good. The new balance rebel v3 is little bouncy versus firm but the color ways are pretty ugly. The Novablast 4 in the all white is what I roll with but it’s bulky, not sure if that’s a deal breaker
I alternate between a shoe that gives me relief like a bondi 6 and a low drop more minimal shoe that helps strengthen my foot 🦶 like a rebel v3. It’s a lower stack but isn’t too hard on my feet either . But that’s when my PF has flared up in higher mileage . I haven’t battled it day to day .
I have same dilema. Rebel V3 (cheaper than both) Novablast 3 (same price as nimbus) Nimbus 25 Just for weekend run, maybe 10km top. Which one will you choose.
I would say the rebel v3 or the nimbus 25 depending on how much you want or like underfoot. The rebel v3 is more nimble and the foam is less supportive of bigger runners (so you may enjoy if you’re smaller. I like it I’m 150lbs ). The nimbus is more supportive in general and more comfortable if you want to cruise
Just bought 2 pair (rebelv2) for 40 euro (40 ish dollar aswell) on decathlon summer sale . Pair for me and my wife 😂 at this point i would not even care if they arent nice for that price. Looking forward to em cause your review tho. Ill sub greets .
Yeah, hopefully they still have the half size up at same price for an even exchange. I got a back up pair for 63 dollars last month as my first pair hit 200 miles . The v4 comes out in September and I heard it’s just an upper update so the discounted v3 is the way to go . I bought the vomero 16 and trinoosa for $50 also not caring if they were any good. Love the approach
@MidLifeRunner looks like its gonna be either this or full size up. I'll try them on if it fits it fits .. not gonna do anything above 10k with them anyway so a bit snug isn't really an issue. I got my endorphin pro 4 a bit snug and I did hm in them no issues
Out of these three, Novablast 3 provides the most cushion. For the marathon, I have run 4 of them, all in the Nike Alphafly . Next marathon I am running in the SC Elite v3. I also want to try 42km in the Nike vaporfly 2
That’s a great question! Unfortunately, I don’t have the resources to try every shoe, so my experience with Puma is limited. I have run in the puma liberate nitro v1 and v2. That puma shoe has less under foot than the Rebel and the puma foam isn’t nearly as bouncy or responsive as the rebel v3. That being said, they remind me of each other. Lower to the ground than other daily trainers. Good ground contact. Can pick up the pace. Wouldn’t take either for long runs. The rebel v3 just has a little bite more underfoot and the upper is nicer than the liberate nitro
I’ve had the Novablast 3 for a couple months now and I’m fairly certain it’s been causing issues with my IT band. I switched back to my shoes from last year and within a week the pain is gone. I have a feeling it’s because of the max cushion
Interesting. Does it change your landing any? For me, I toe-off more significantly and my calves are sore as if I had a speed day session the day before
Yes. My favorite shoe for speed is the Takumi sen 8 or 9, however from a daily trainer, th ñe rebel v3 is the best shoe for that. I took it out for 200s/400s/800s and mile repeats. It’s got a lot less stack than other daily trainers and solid energy return.
Shoe give away…. Better send to someone with the same shoe size as you …. I like the rebel too. 😊. Another Drawback maybe not as durable as the speed 3 and novablast 3
Great call out on the durability. It definitely doesn’t feel like it will hold up as long as the other shoes. I bet I am going to get 300-400 from the Rebel V3 though. I have too many shoes to run in anyway 😂 you wear a size 9?
@@MidLifeRunner i,m a size 8.5. I have just started on another pair of Speed 2. I should be good for a while… ☺️ i am loving the 3 shoes you posted but I am working on their predecessors.. Novablast 2, Speed 2 and Rebel 2..
I agree. I got a pretty ugly purple version for 60 dollars as a back up to the first pair , neon green for 83 dollars. Love the white, just not at full price 😂
Novablast 3 so overrated, felt good for 150 miles though nothing special now at 210 miles totally flat and dead. Speed v1/2 superb shoes V3 not the same shoe,sad.
A lot of people really love the shoe. 👟 it’s wild how different shoes work differently for different people. I love the alphafly but it hurts my coaches ankles. There’s a guy on the Running Channel who likes every shoe I don’t, so if he endorses it, I know to stay away 🤣.
😀 ok i believe; never had NB (most Nike, Adidas Hoka Saucony)we can’t watch everything like normal striking runner without too many kilos; but if you want fast shoe ES3 is comfy, pleasant upper, good laces
When I'm presidente, I'm issuing Executive Orders saying allllll vehicles MUST have the SAME style of wiper blades, and ALLLLL shoes brands must have the SAME fit standard.
@@MidLifeRunner that would be great! If I don't end up liking them I will give them away to some young runners in Lebanon where I do missions work. Either way they will be used! Where do I send my address?
Thanks for the input, Steve. What makes you say that? I’ve tried a pair before but it hurt my feet (high arches) so I never went back but I’m open to it
💀 deceased!! I left the jokes out on this one. And my wife says putting that in the title is tacky and makes me look old, which I am- to be fair. Thanks for making me laugh
@@MidLifeRunner hahaha... Fair enough. You have no idea how funny i thought it was the first time I saw that in your video title. I'm here for the jokes as much as I'm for the running content 😄
SAUCONY BUYER BEWARE! BUYER BEWARE! Absolute Junk. My wife wanted to try a pair of this brand, her size is 6.5 W after a couple of wears they caused severe blisters on the top of her foot. Their horrible customer service did absolutely nothing other than make us jump thru hoops.
Andrew, this is your best review yet. You have really come into your own with your reviews.
Thank you 🙏🏼 David! Slowly finding my way :)
I really enjoyed that. No flashy edits, just some good clear personal thoughts - and that's really important, everyone has a different relationship to every shoe which is why your end result caught me and I suspect many others by surprise by being the shoe that is probably least acclaimed in the shoe-tuber world. Also, appreciate your comments on the Nova 3 lean back sensation, I had the same in OG Metaspeed Sky to the extent I was definitely in negative drop (chubby runner/soft foam/low drop) and my calfs were SCREAMING....
Thanks for sharing Russell. I was just researching reviews on the metaspeed Sky + and I read a few times that it felt like a negative drop and that the calves were screaming. Also, that by mile 15, the magic was gone and the foam dulled, which I think is kind of the case with original metaspeed and with Novablast 3. :/
Great review! You make it clear what type of shoes to choose based on my foot strike. Thank you.
Thanks Alex!
Found your channel because i’m looking for my first pair of running shoes (size 9US btw 😎). Like the honesty and real feel review. Really help me to understand the shoes even before i try it.
Awesome! I have a pair of skechers razor excess with 24 miles I’m not going to wear again. Want them? I already gave the speeds away
Just ran my first 10km in the Rebel v3 - awesome feeling!!! I love them!!! So much fun, the bounce and the softness are amazing... It really surprised me too how stable I was running in them!
Right?! And I got them for 83 dollars! One of my favorite trainers of all time.
Great comparison, thanks. I love my Rebels and liked the Permafrost version so much I got the regular one lined up for warmer daily miles.
I can’t wait for the 4s! Such a fun shoe
Great video Andrew. Thanks for the comparison.
I have the Endorphin Speed 3 and am loving it so far. I tried the Novablast 3 as well when I got it, and it didn't feel as responsive at the time.
Thanks for the feedback. They definitely have two different landing 🛬 feels for me so I can totally see getting along very well with one but not the other
I love the rebel V3. It is so soft yet energetic, I reach for it all the time. I’ve had the 1&2’s in speed and novablast, but didn’t go back for their V3.
You’re not missing out . Rebels all day!
Thanks for the review, just bought the rebel to use it for tempo, but now intend to use it for recovery due to to my recent plantar faciitis but those fuelcell midsole seems soft enough, love the way you compare those shoes, straight to the point and sharing your personal taste 👍
🙏🏼 thank you. Rebel v 3 seems like a perfect shoe for Plantar. Hope recovery is coming along well.
New subscriber. Your rationale on why you won’t run in the Endo Speed 3 is SO TRUE! I have several shoes in that same group! Lol! Thanks for the comparisons!
Thanks for watching/subscribing! 🙏🏼 happy to connect with other shoe people 😂
Great presentation, I loved the Rebel V2s last year, they were so fun to run in, and I've found the V3s discounted so I'll go for them even though I don't expect them to last very long.
I also just passed the 600 km mark in my Speed 1s, they are so good for tempo and interval workouts, and their foam is very resilient.
I agree with you regarding the speed 3s, they would work for somebody with one or two pair of shoes, but for people with a larger rotation, they lack a bit of specific purpose in my opinion.
Thanks for watching . Releasing another battle tomorrow - 300 mile reviews of metaspeed Sky , Novablast 2 and Nike invincible run . I think your rebel v3 May last longer than you think 🤔
Nice review, couldn’t disagree more though with your conclusions on the Saucony 3. I have worn all of these shoes and really love the Speed 3. I agree with a lot of what you said about the Speed 3, it just works for me. I am a heel striking shuffler so that’s probably why. Just discovered your channel and really enjoying the content!
Awesome ! Disagreements are 100% welcome here. Im glad it works for you . Thanks 🙏🏼 for setting time aside to watch the channel. I appreciate the support
I randomly stumbled on the channel while researching low heart rate training. I enjoy your shoe reviews but would like to see more of your training as you continue your progress. Congrats on your recent marathon PR.
Noted. Next video will be on this Buffalo training block . I am trying four things I have never done before
@@MidLifeRunner Great to hear that and look forward to it. P.S. I am actually size 9.
Lol so random. Exactly the same for me, have been watching a few videos on low heart rate training and this video popped up on my feed. Was looking to buy the Novablast3 so gave it a watch. Would also like to see some more training videos.
Congrats on your 1000 subscribers! 🎉
Good review. Great analogies.
The Endorphins still feel very responsive compared to many duds out there. Try the Hoka Clifton for instance 😂
Thanks Eric! they are all great shoes compared to most daily trainers. Some people were hyped on the Ride and the Triumph but they were just okay. I haven’t run in a Hoka in a couple of years. The platform on their shoes are all so wide that it forces my foot strike/form and my shins or feet hurt after 1 to 2 runs. Do you have any shoes that promote injury ? 😂
Came for the shoe review (and it was good!). Stayed to highlight that "House of Leaves" copy. Great book.
🧐 one of my top 3 favorite books of all time. When I was editing for the first time in front of the book shelf, I actually imagined a fan of the book would recognize it and appreciate it. 🙌🏼🙌🏼 most of the other books are my wife’s.
You're the first ever RUclipsr to point out to size up on New Balance, the other RUclips reviewers are not doing their best!
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Wow, awesome.
I’ve run in all three but stuck with the Rebel 3…love the Rebel 3 and yes to me the upper improved over V2.
I wanted to love the Speed3 (because of all the hype), so I purchased it, not once, not twice…but 3 times. Testing on an indoor track each time before eventually returning. The upper felt like a step back from V1, great at faster pace exactly how you explained it with animation and then the fact that I’m not a heal striker. Feels like I’m wasting the back half of the shoe.
Hope they don’t mess the Rebel 3 up next iteration. I don’t need more cushion than what it’s got. There’s other shoes out there if we want super cush high stack. Rebel is fun and so versatile because the shoe does not lock you into a running category as much as the others do.
I agree 100 percent. I heard they are taking a little more away for rebel v4. If the 4 becomes more of a speed day shoe and less daily training, I’ll buy another v3 on sale
@@MidLifeRunner Huh, that’s interesting. Yeah, I’ll do the same.
Great review! I used the Speed 2's and Novablast 2 briefly and as much as I wanted to love those shoes I got knee problems pretty quickly using both of them. The Speeds was after a few weeks and the Novablast was almost immedielty (even after walking for about an hour in them). I've heard stability issues have been worked out in them but somewhat hesitant to try them considering how annoying those injuries were to recover from. Hoping to try them though and give them another chance with the new models! The V3 seems like something to check out too for sure! Great content looking forward to more.
Thanks for checking it out . I think the Novablast line has been unstable from the get go. In #1 it was more in the heel. In number two it felt stable all over with the added foam up front. Number 3 is hard on my calves as it’s so bulbous up front and I still feel it is unstable. I would steer clear if I were you.
Very good to know! Thank you for the heads-up and for saving me from spending too much time on that, glad to know it wasn't just me on the Nova 2's. Been running in the ASICS Noosa Tri 14's and have been able to use them for everything and love them and have had no issues. Going to run my first marathon in them in Chicago in about a week but going to look for a more dedicated racing shoe after the race. Any recommendations in terms of a more stable racing shoe? @@MidLifeRunner
I loved the Speed 1!! Just found you on RUclips. The thing I appreciate most in this video is that you cut to how it feels to run in the shoes rather than going into all the specs and such.
Thanks Neely! Do you wear a men’s US size 9/want a pair of Endorphin Speed 3?
@@MidLifeRunner I do, actually!!!
I also had some friends who ran The Woodlands. Just watched your recap. I know you were hot, but my friends were an hour or more behind you and they got toasty.
That said, I had a similar experience at The Cowtown. I was trying to go sub 3:10 and fell apart the last few miles. Went 3:13 and change. I really appreciate your evaluation, and you gave me some things to think about. Just found your channel and I'm really enjoying it! I know your Woodlands gets you into Boston 24, but will you be there this year?
@@neely4606 if you email me your address to Texasand80@gmail.com, I can send those out this week.
This was my first time qualifying for Boston, actually. I ran the Chicago marathon in 3:11:02 or something but received the gun time of 3:19 because I wore a jacket over my bib. I thought I was on pace for a 3:08/3:09. Whoops.
It did get warm very fast and I felt bad for the 4-5 hour marathoners because it would be exponentially more difficult to finish strong. After Buffalo in May I’m going to take off from training and do some base building until fall. What do you have planned next ?
@@MidLifeRunner I'm doing the quick turnaround from Cowtown to Boston. I qualified at last year's Cowtown (I'm 48) with a 3:15:45. I'm currently annoying all my friends talking about it nonstop. Lol.
Congrats on your BQ. It's a big deal. You're clearly way under the standard, and got that in a relatively warm marathon, but celebrate the crap out of that, my friend!! It's taken me a year to think of myself as a Boston qualifier. But, it's really a big deal.
@@neely4606 flex as you should ! Congrats on the BQ two times over. Hopefully the shoes give you a couple hundred solid miles . It’s a good shoe just not for me
Exactly the comparison I was looking for! I was leaning towards the Rebel v3 for some of my faster training. I don't mind it can't do recovery or long runs, I've got the Triumph 20 for that.
It’s such a great shoe. Triumph and 1080 solid recovery/long run shoes. Cheers
Good detailed review and well filmed. Best wishes.
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Enjoy your stuff! Keep up the good work!
Thanks bearded ketoman. I struggle growing facial hair and also with keto so you might be my hero 🙌🏼🙌🏼
I completely agree with you on the Endorphin Speeds. I have 2 pairs of Speed 2 and both have the same issue of the forefoot section of the midsole already bottoming out within 100 miles (heels are still squishy). When they were fresh, they were great and felt like they were "tuned" for speedwork frequency/tempo. Just ordered some Rebel V3 for $53 on sale and really looking forward to trying them out.
😍😍$53!! What a steal. I hope you enjoy them
Where did you get them?
Nice honest review. Have to disagree with your speed 3 review but i guess everyone has a different feel and opinion i love the speed 3. Im a forefoot/ mid foot runner depending on the distance. Been training with the speed 3 at all speeds and love them. Totally recommend them from slow runs to tempo to intervals. I got them for training to recover better due to their nylon plate is more forgiven.
Hey, I wish nothing but the best for my fellow Runner’s so I am really glad the shoe works for you. The plate is definitely more forgiving than the stiffer plates like in the Vaporfly (for me). Did you get on with the speed 1/2? I still really love that shoe
Congrats on the 1K subs Andrew!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks Luis! 2k by CIM! What shoe size do you wear?
@@MidLifeRunner I’m Ronald McDonald size 11 🤦🏻♂️ 🔴👟😂🤣😂. Hope this shoe giveaway help to get more people to see your videos. They just don’t know they are missing out 🤷🏻♂️😆😆. Keep the good videos going 🙌🏼.
Great video! Love the no nonsense, get down to it review.
After getting the Endorphin Speed 2’s on sale last summer I can never go back to a standard EVA midsole. Grabbed another pair on sale from the saucony site back in December.
Before I got the speed 2’s I tried the Rebel V2 and despite reviews stating how fun it was to run in, it did nothing for me. Maybe because I’m 210 lbs? Just got nothing from the midsole.
Hoping to pick up a pair of Pro 3’s if/when they go on sale.
💯. I had three pairs of Speed 1s and am also waiting on the Pro 3 to go on sale. The Rebel V2 was kind of an in between shoe. It didn’t have enough underfoot for me for daily miles (6-7 at a time). And it also didn’t have much snap for speed day, so I put some miles in it but it wasn’t too special. V3 feels different but doesn’t have a plate like speed 2
The Endorphin Speed OG is absolutely the GOAT! I completely agree!
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@@MidLifeRunner I would also have to agree that the Speed 1 is the GOAT. The first time I ran in that shoe it was such a game changer for me, felt I could just fly in that one compared to any other shoe I had ever worn. Speed 2 and 3 are okay, but not the same. Like some people to this day still harken back to the original Clifton, I think the same will happen with the Speed lineup in the years ahead.
Great review! Please review a pair of Asics Noosa Tri 14s. They fit this category of shoe and I think you’ll like them.
I just got them in. I ordered them solely based on Seth James demoors review so I was going test them out and dedicate a video to him 😂
Cool, I’ll keep an eye out for the video
I really dig your style of vids!
Thanks, James!
Great video! Your channel will get really big 👍
Thank you for positive words !
i had the rebel v3 for a few months. maybe it was because it wasn’t the right size (1 size too big) but i definitely think the novablast excels in stability way more than the rebel and the energy return and the springyness of the shoe without sacrificing cushioning definitely hits the spot for me.
Thanks for sharing the feedback. I’ve got some decent miles in the Novablast and really enjoy it also. I think sizing does affect the ride for sure, especially if it’s too long. I’m about to do a follow up video on rebel v3 after 200 miles and sc trainer after 300 miles, if I could buy one. How they’re holding up. I think the Novablast can go 500+
Great video. Keep pushing
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Found you on my homepage! Fantastic review!
🙏🏼 ale! Glad the algorithm brought us together 😂
Thanks for a great review. Two of your three shoes are from the Boston companies (NB & Saucony) that got me to the Boston Marathon. I was curious how they compared to the Asics.
Congrats on the Boston marathon! It’s really down to preference. Sounds like it doesn’t really matter what shoe you run in. You’re 💨 fast 🚓
@@MidLifeRunner Thx. I'm glad I found your channel.
I’m with you on the Speed 3. I think that it’s a good daily trainer but I also don’t feel the plate in it or the propulsive roll that it had in the 1 and 2. I actually struggle to get that shoe up to 5k pace and hold it, since it feels bigger, softer, and just lacks that pop at toe off. For me the Speed 3 actually works best at easier paces where I can just relax in it and enjoy the cushioned ride. But I shed a tear for the loss of the near perfection that was the Speed 1.
I really liked the Rebel v2. I haven’t tried the V3 yet. Perhaps I’ll look for a pair of those on sale.
I have 178 miles on v2 and about 50 on the first pair before they ripped. I loved it but it did bottom out a little. I used for 6-8 mile runs. V3 is a step up. I got them for 83 dollars on running warehouse . So solid . I got a notification you emailed but haven’t checked that account in a while. I’ll check it out later and get back to you
@@MidLifeRunner No worries on the email. I took my Rebel V2's on vacation when I just wanted to bring one running shoe. Could handle faster paces as well as daily miles and the Fuelcell Foam is very comfortable to walk around in. Those shoes were so light and bouncy. You could feel them bottoming out on long runs though. I retired my V2s just after I passed 200 miles in them. The outsole rubber was worn down really badly. I find the rubber in a lot of NB shoes to be very soft and it tends to wear out faster than the outsoles of a lot of other brands. Except Hoka. I had a pair of the first model year of Rincons that disintegrated after like 50 miles. Light and fast but probably the worst durability of any running shoe I've ever had.
I really like the New Balance Rebel v2 I did 3 marathons in the Rebel v2 & got pb s each time, now that the Rebel is done over 500k thinking getting the novablast 3 or the Rebel v3 mmm can’t decide thanks for the review 👍🏼👏🌿👣🍀🥳
Thanks for sharing! Wow, that's wild about the v2. You might consider getting another v2 on discount with the rate of PBs it's earning you. Rebel V3 is so solid. I love the fuel cell foam
@@MidLifeRunner yeah I find it’s harder getting previous year shoes here in nz I’ll looking for v3 thanks 🙏
very nice review ! thank you !
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Endorphin Speed 3 is one of my all-time favourite shoes ... sooooo many happy happy kms!!!
I’ve been hearing that a lot lately. The endo speed 1 is my all time favorite . I am looking forward to the 4
You are 100% correct about the feelings of Novablast 1, 2 and 2! To me, the Novablast 1 was the most exciting development in running shoes in this price range, it was bouncy and it propelled you forward. Like you, I am using the Novablast 2 for the recovery runs and works great for that, I just don't get the forward propulsion and so its not for anything faster than a recovery run. Now with my Novablast 3, its not as recovery type shoe as N2 yet it seems a bit slower and more stable than N1 and as you say it almost feels like it is angle backwards almost like a zero drop, so again it has lost the Novablast "magic". I also find that it is the firmest of all the Novablast versions. Having said all that, I used it for the long training runs from 25km to 32km and it worked really well for that. I found my legs stayed fairly fresh, and it really protected my achilles which tend to niggle with softer more cushioned shoes. I just found them a bit "clunky" for the actual marathon race I was training for as they are the widest of all the Novablasts which I presume that made like this to add stability.
Very well put on the Novablast 3 and thank you for all the feedback/confirmation. The 3 was a bit clunky overall. There is just so much shoe, that I have to focus more than I would like on my foot strike . Seeing that the number 4 is more of a cruiser also, but yet also more firm than the 3, makes me think I will wait until next year when they go on sale . What I loved about the Novablast was the magical bounce and propulsion which I don’t feel in 3 as much as others do. The new balance sc elite v3 gives me a similar propulsion forward . The energy arc tech only in general does
I’m enjoying both the Speed 3 & Rebel 3. They are different feels but both work well for me. I do prefer the Speed though. Never had the Novablast.
Thanks for sharing. I think the Novablast and speed 3 are opposites in a way when it comes to foot strike so I don’t think you’re missing out in anything
Solid review. You oughta try the Topo Cyclone 2-very similar to all of these.
Sweet! I haven’t ventured out to topo yet! Limited resources 💵 but maybe I’ll reach out and see if I can sample some shoes
@@MidLifeRunner I took a chance on them via Kofuzi's review and was pleasantly surprised. Grabbed some Speed 3s on sale this wk. Eager to see if the hype is real.
Really appreciate this and would like to see an updateed version
Speed 3 lost something over the 2 version but still a great shoe. Rebel V2 is still the funnest shoe for me to put on for a short distance run.
I had to size up 1/2 with the Rebel V1 but not the V2 or V3. I think the V3 is very true to size and is an awesome shoe.
Thanks for sharing. It’s good to know those fit spot on for some people and I just have an awkward foot 😂
I realize this video is older but I just watched it. Couldn’t disagree more about the Endorphin Speed 3. I’m on my second pair. I use the Hanson’s Marathon Method plan and Speed 3 for all my SoS days. I think they’re best with mid to forefoot strike marathon pace or faster. I prefer them to my Endorphin Pro 3s and have debated using them for my next marathon. Fantastic shoe.
I appreciate the feedback. Every shoe works different for different runners and strides. Ironically, I felt the same way about the Speed 1 and 2. I had multiple pairs and I preferred them over the Pro 1 and the Pro 2. I do think Speed 3 is best at faster paces too. I’m glad the shoe works well for you and I appreciate the watch
I love my Novablast 3 shoes. I guess I am a forefoot striker because these shoes feel excellent and responsive. I have the Speed 3’s and I like them, but mainly because they are comfortable. They fit my foot well and they feel very light. They do not feet responsive to me. I got both shoes for a pretty good deal. My Novablast’s I paid $80 U.S and my Speed 3’s $120 U.S.
I have the speed 1. Great value at a discounted price. It's a fast shoe, but it doesn't fit my running form. I think it's faster than the novablast 1, but I enjoy running in the nb way more. I found three pairs recently.
New Balance has that fuel cell foam that’s hard to compete with. I am definitely grabbing a 2nd pair on discount later this year
Same in my Nike invincible run flyknit 1 the upper and outsole was separated on my first 14km from the box.
😢 love/hate. Love the midsole, hate the upper
@@MidLifeRunner you right sir drew for me the bounciest midsole I've got so far but the upper nah. Hahahahahha the shoe lace is too short I can't do the runner's knot.
Just subs.... I also just ordered the same green rebel v3 at 65USD. Can't wait for it to arrive. My first fuelcell
The video coming out tomorrow is a 200 mile check in - and a shoe battle with the SC trainer at 300 miles. Checking in on the fuel cell
Great Shoe Review ❤
I feel that I'm a heel striker
So whats the trigger point pace on the Endorphins Speed 3
So I can feel like I'm skipping rocks
Instead of sinking in playdoe
Effort level 9 out of 10 for me to skip that rock. Nothing comfortable about it other than the shoe at that point
Subscribed. All the information I am interested and no BS to sell shoes.
🙏🏼 thank you. Rest assured I will always be honest. Next month I’m going to do a “run the shoes you’re in” series of my Anti-shoe rotation of duds and “just a shoe” that I’m working through the miles to get my money’s worth, but would pass on
Hey, thanks for the video. I am in preparation for my 1st marathon and looking for a new shoe for long runs (25k+), any suggestion? I usually go for my novablast 2, but it's already over 800km and it might not last much more, so I need to prepare myself for a new one. Recently I though on novablast 3, puma velocity 2, or maybe even 1080v12 (which currently is my last option, I might not enjoy it too much due to lack of bouncy feeling). I love asics a lot, but prices are crazy recently, so looking for a good promotion
Awesome to hear on the marathon! Affordable long run shoe, 🤔 I would say the SC trainer on discount. I’m at 400km and it’s feeling great still. It IS heavy compared to Novablast 2 so there is that. SC Trainer 2 is bouncier and lighter than #1 but full price at 180. Those are fuel cell foam shoes from NB and I like that line from them. Novablast 3 is a good daily trainer but isn’t as comfortable or long runy as v2 for me. I haven’t tried the velocity 2 so I can’t speak it. If you do go with Puma, let me know how it feels in comparison to the Novablast 2. Or maybe just get another pair of Novablast 2 if you can find them
Novablast felt like running with a pebble under my forefoot. The pod really bothered me and I couldn’t run more than once or twice in them.
The rebels sound great but v2 felt a bit unstable to me.
Im with you on the Novablast. I feel like if I don’t run up more on the forefoot, I don’t get the energy return and the shoe works against me. I felt the same way about rebel v2. I didn’t like them past 6 miles. The rebel v3 widened the platform and is more stable. I think they’re worth looking into for 50-60 dollars on sale if you don’t already have preferred brands that really work with your stride
Great review and video but I'm so disappointed as a huge fan of Saucony😃
Had a couple of Ride and tried the Endo Speed 2... Love them!
These brought me to Endo Shift 3 for recovery runs (not convinced yet and not sure if I prefer these to the Ride) and finnaly to the Endo Pro 3 (just to give me all the chances when racing... Even if I'm still a very average runner 🤣
Will have to think twice now when renewing the Speed ;-)
Yes do not take it personal... they'll come!
Thank you 🙏🏼. I also love Saucony shoes. I am waiting for the Pro 3 to go on discount. I know they were a lot of reviewers favorite racer from last year
@@MidLifeRunner Go to the Elite version... seem even better
I literally feel like I could run around the globe in the saucony endorphin speed 3s. What does this say about me?! I like putty, maybe. I grew up as a runner in the kinvaras so maybe that’s part of it but now you’ve sold me on the Rebels - that’s what I’m trying next. I got the SC trainers v1 and felt like I was running in bricks. How do people run in those??? But the Rebels sound good. Thanks for a great review.
🙏🏼 Kinvaras! I am more of a “less” than more as well but I do enjoy a well done stacked shoe. Kinvaras are so cheap, same with the trinoosa I got for $50. Those have a similar feel too. Rebels are a little bouncier but they’re fun. Thanks for watching
I bought Speed 3 today for Daily workouts and treadmill runs after trying several shoes, interesting that everyone's preferences are different :-)
Indeed. I know many people who love the speed 3. Someone said I needed a stability shoe ? I don’t know but I am open to it! Thank you watching and sharing
Saucony Tempus is a mild stability shoe, it has ample cushion to ensure the foot is protected as an alternative to the neutral speed3 but speed3 hugs my foot, may be it is due to the S curve tech but it feels good to me hence I went for speed3. Speed3 does not feel blazing fast though. For speed, Endorphin Pro3 is a better option but I felt it is non versatile compared to speed3. it feels super light, cushy and very bouncy! also it feels wobbly and strange when you walk with it but feels normal when you pick up pace :-) so pro3 felt like a Lamborgini which feels clunky when you drive that in slow 20 mph speed but feels very normal when you race with it. Nice video, keep it coming please!
I have the Speed 2 and 3 and the Speed 2 is much snappier then Speed 3. I don't really like the Novablast 3. My feet slap the ground fast making it hard to run fast and my feet swell after the run because of the constant slapping of the foot.. Speed 3 is to mushy for me. Speed 2 is so much better. I had the REBEL V2 but it felt unstructured and I hurt my metatarsal on the stones in the road. I don't know if they improved the outsole on my REBEL V3 so stones don't hurt your feet.
Speed 1/2 had the snap and I’m disappointed it went away, however it is supposed to be coming back. Rebel v3 has A LOT more structure/wider base, however 27.5 inches of fuel cell foam isn’t enough to protect against rocks. The outsole is roughly the same, slightly more protection but it doesn’t provide much again the fuel cell
Good video. BUT Endo Speed 3s all day. More soft/squishy than the previous 2 versions. Now has a place as the long run shoes vs the speed day shoe.
Absolutely better for long runs than the last two versions. Looking forward to the 4. thanks for watching and taking the time to comment
I never slipped either with Rebel v3, I've ran about 1,000km+ in them so far
Good to know. They’ve been solid for me as well
Great review! Unsubscribed, Speed 3 is my favorite!! (Kidding about the unsub)… I ran my first marathons in the Speed 3 last year and continue to use them (because, um, $170). But the points you make are valid and I’ve learned a ton about my running style and rotate the 3 in less and less these days. Def leaves the legs beat up for longer distances, which I didn’t realize as I was/am a noob! Thanks again for this one!
😂 thanks for the unsub!! I actually watch some shoetubers who tend to like shoes I do not, so if they love a shoe I know to stay away from it. 😬 so, worst case, if I hate a shoe, buy it immediately. How long have you been running? They say you get to call yourself new the first 3-5 years so I’m still hiding under that umbrella
What shoe or shoes would you recommend for a 100 miler it's some roads ,gravel and light trails nothing technical.
I cannot say confidently as I have not dipped my toes into ultras. My best guess is the Asics Superblast because of all the protection underfoot without being as heavy as the Nike invincible and SC Trainer. I can’t imagine any shoe feeling comfortable after 100 miles. Let me know how it goes and what you went with
Hi there, when you say you’re hesitant to take the Rebel v3 on long runs, what would you consider a long run? Would you do a half marathon in it?
It CAN do 13. I would feel comfortable doing a race in them . But i feel it in my legs knees and below after 10+ … not terribly but I have enough other options , I would rather go for another shoe
@@MidLifeRunner I hear you… throw a couple suggestions at me (for 13.1)?
I'm a heavy runner, and I've been running in shoes with lower stacks and lower drops. I couldn't adapt to the NovaBlast, the shoes sink too much, and require more muscular effort, which caused me fatigue and pain.
thanks for the feedback. Let me know what shoes really work for you. I get a lot of questions from heavy runners and at 150-155lbs I can't really say but would love to have references to tell them.
My weigh is about 191 lbs, have a supinated stride and land on mid foot. For me, shoes with lower drops, firmer cushioning and lower stack high work best. Also my English is not strong. @@MidLifeRunner
Which shoes do you like for recovery and for trail, for someone with metatarsal issues.
It’s hard to say because I do not know how the issues impact your landing. I think the SC trainer is a SUPER stable recovery shoe that promotes a healthy foot strike or roll through. Whereas something like the Nike invincible forces my ankles and feet to flex/work a lot to balance my landing. Trails, I wish I had to more time to drive out to but with three kids, it’s too challenging to make the time . Hope this helps
I just got the rebel v3. I have to 1080v13. Feel pretty solid about them. I think I need another pair to round out my rotation 😂
SC elite 3 ! They’re going on sale in various places
@@MidLifeRunner yes I gotta give those a try. The v4 looks 👌. I just got the novablast 3 since my first comment. Great sale couldn't hold back ha
Hi mate, I'm about to travel. Can you recommend me a good road running shoe that can be used in the gym and casual wear? I'm not looking for something performance-heavy, I just need an all-rounder. Since I'll also be wearing it for casual wear, I want it to be comfortable and I don't need it to "stand out" like most running shoes, but if it can't be helped, i'll still wear something "flashy"
Also, for the gym part, I don't mind going shoeless. I'm more concerned about the casual wear part, much love.
I like something not too soft for casual wear. The Nike Vomero 17 but not sure it looks good. The new balance rebel v3 is little bouncy versus firm but the color ways are pretty ugly. The Novablast 4 in the all white is what I roll with but it’s bulky, not sure if that’s a deal breaker
I have plantar fasciitis I walk a lot every day. What shoe do you recommend?
I alternate between a shoe that gives me relief like a bondi 6 and a low drop more minimal shoe that helps strengthen my foot 🦶 like a rebel v3. It’s a lower stack but isn’t too hard on my feet either . But that’s when my PF has flared up in higher mileage . I haven’t battled it day to day .
1K…, well done.
Thanks Matthias! Can’t make any more “thanks for my 33 subscribers” jokes I guess 😂
I have same dilema.
Rebel V3 (cheaper than both)
Novablast 3 (same price as nimbus)
Nimbus 25
Just for weekend run, maybe 10km top.
Which one will you choose.
I would say the rebel v3 or the nimbus 25 depending on how much you want or like underfoot. The rebel v3 is more nimble and the foam is less supportive of bigger runners (so you may enjoy if you’re smaller. I like it I’m 150lbs ). The nimbus is more supportive in general and more comfortable if you want to cruise
@@MidLifeRunner Thanks. If my feet are 26cm, should i buy 26.5cm or 26cm Novablast 3?
Just bought 2 pair (rebelv2) for 40 euro (40 ish dollar aswell) on decathlon summer sale . Pair for me and my wife 😂 at this point i would not even care if they arent nice for that price. Looking forward to em cause your review tho. Ill sub greets .
Kinda worried about the sizing now 😂😂😂😂 after I watched the full thing . A well can always send em back. I do remember the v2 being way to small .
Yeah, hopefully they still have the half size up at same price for an even exchange. I got a back up pair for 63 dollars last month as my first pair hit 200 miles . The v4 comes out in September and I heard it’s just an upper update so the discounted v3 is the way to go . I bought the vomero 16 and trinoosa for $50 also not caring if they were any good. Love the approach
@MidLifeRunner looks like its gonna be either this or full size up. I'll try them on if it fits it fits .. not gonna do anything above 10k with them anyway so a bit snug isn't really an issue. I got my endorphin pro 4 a bit snug and I did hm in them no issues
Hi, which shoes you will pick to run 42km MArathon or long run?
Out of these three, Novablast 3 provides the most cushion. For the marathon, I have run 4 of them, all in the Nike Alphafly . Next marathon I am running in the SC Elite v3. I also want to try 42km in the Nike vaporfly 2
I love my Newbalance Rebel 3
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Does the Puma Nitro line have a direct rival to the Rebel v series?
That’s a great question! Unfortunately, I don’t have the resources to try every shoe, so my experience with Puma is limited. I have run in the puma liberate nitro v1 and v2. That puma shoe has less under foot than the Rebel and the puma foam isn’t nearly as bouncy or responsive as the rebel v3. That being said, they remind me of each other. Lower to the ground than other daily trainers. Good ground contact. Can pick up the pace. Wouldn’t take either for long runs. The rebel v3 just has a little bite more underfoot and the upper is nicer than the liberate nitro
@@MidLifeRunner Thx for response....I'm gonna pick up a Rebel v3 that I found on sale at New Balance Outlet for under $70
v3 is king :) agree
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Endorphin speed 2 all the way for me 😃
Same. I went through three pairs of v1/v2
Speed 2 much better energy return and speed role then Speed 3.
Do you still have the sauconys ? I'm interested 😉👍🏼
Regrettably I already sent them out . Let me look at the shoe closet and see if I have some others to give to see if you’re interested
Thank you so much , I'll appreciate it 🙏🏻
I’ve had the Novablast 3 for a couple months now and I’m fairly certain it’s been causing issues with my IT band. I switched back to my shoes from last year and within a week the pain is gone. I have a feeling it’s because of the max cushion
Interesting. Does it change your landing any? For me, I toe-off more significantly and my calves are sore as if I had a speed day session the day before
@@MidLifeRunner it didn’t feel too different but yes, I definitely felt it in my calves when running in these shoes
1k 🎉🎉
3k by 2024?
The Saucony Speed 3 are no longer a real speed shoe like the previous versions. It's a comfortable easy daily miles.
Agreed . I have heard they are going to strip it back down and make it faster again. I sure hope so anyway
I need a good speed work shoe. For 400's, 1k repeats, mile repeats, etc. Would the Rebel 3 be a good shoe for that?
Yes. My favorite shoe for speed is the Takumi sen 8 or 9, however from a daily trainer, th ñe rebel v3 is the best shoe for that. I took it out for 200s/400s/800s and mile repeats. It’s got a lot less stack than other daily trainers and solid energy return.
Shoe give away…. Better send to someone with the same shoe size as you …. I like the rebel too. 😊. Another Drawback maybe not as durable as the speed 3 and novablast 3
Great call out on the durability. It definitely doesn’t feel like it will hold up as long as the other shoes. I bet I am going to get 300-400 from the Rebel V3 though. I have too many shoes to run in anyway 😂 you wear a size 9?
@@MidLifeRunner i,m a size 8.5. I have just started on another pair of Speed 2. I should be good for a while… ☺️ i am loving the 3 shoes you posted but I am working on their predecessors.. Novablast 2, Speed 2 and Rebel 2..
I love the Rebel v3, but some of the colors are so bad, I like the white with dragonfly accents
I agree. I got a pretty ugly purple version for 60 dollars as a back up to the first pair , neon green for 83 dollars. Love the white, just not at full price 😂
Novablast 3 so overrated, felt good for 150 miles though nothing special now at 210 miles totally flat and dead.
Speed v1/2 superb shoes V3 not the same shoe,sad.
I am hoping Speed 4 returns to v1/2 and Novablast 4 gets the 10mm drop back 🤞🏼
Speed 3 is fantastic
A lot of people really love the shoe. 👟 it’s wild how different shoes work differently for different people. I love the alphafly but it hurts my coaches ankles. There’s a guy on the Running Channel who likes every shoe I don’t, so if he endorses it, I know to stay away 🤣.
😀 ok i believe; never had NB (most Nike, Adidas Hoka Saucony)we can’t watch everything like normal striking runner without too many kilos; but if you want fast shoe ES3 is comfy, pleasant upper, good laces
When I'm presidente, I'm issuing Executive Orders saying allllll vehicles MUST have the SAME style of wiper blades, and ALLLLL shoes brands must have the SAME fit standard.
Not like I need another (damn) shoe, but *blink* _ COKE is the right answer. ;) - Nice work!
Thanks Eric. Spot on with Coke
i think i need a rebel 3😂
You really do!
Crazy as most people just rave about the speed 3
Yeah I was beyond excited to get it. V1 was my favorite of all time. Some people still really like it but it didn’t work for me
Very fair, tbh I was not the biggest fan of it either!
If you want to send me the endorphins that would be great! I really like the endorphin line up and I would love to try the 3's out. Bless you
I already gave them away, unfortunately. I’ve got some Skechers razor excess 2 with 20 miles in them that I’m going to retire early. Care for those ?
@@MidLifeRunner that would be great! If I don't end up liking them I will give them away to some young runners in Lebanon where I do missions work. Either way they will be used! Where do I send my address?
@@onetruthoneway7369 email on the Channel is texasand80@gmail.com
You need stability shoes.
Thanks for the input, Steve. What makes you say that? I’ve tried a pair before but it hurt my feet (high arches) so I never went back but I’m open to it
Fair review
Novablast was JUST SO UNSTABLE
The Novablast 4 is way more stable. The first stable Novablast - but it’s a bit bulky
Almost missed the video because “jokes included” was missing from the title 😔
💀 deceased!! I left the jokes out on this one. And my wife says putting that in the title is tacky and makes me look old, which I am- to be fair. Thanks for making me laugh
@@MidLifeRunner hahaha... Fair enough. You have no idea how funny i thought it was the first time I saw that in your video title. I'm here for the jokes as much as I'm for the running content 😄
Alsome Review,
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Rebel v2, v3 for me, even many others pick Novablast 3...
I feel this 💚
SAUCONY BUYER BEWARE! BUYER BEWARE! Absolute Junk. My wife wanted to try a pair of this brand, her size is 6.5 W after a couple of wears they caused severe blisters on the top of her foot. Their horrible customer service did absolutely nothing other than make us jump thru hoops.