Yuval Noah Harari: Human Nature, Intelligence, Power, and Conspiracies | Lex Fridman Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- Yuval Noah Harari is a historian, philosopher, and author of Sapiens, Homo Deus, 21 Lessons for the 21st Century, and Unstoppable Us. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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0:00 - Introduction
1:24 - Intelligence
20:19 - Origin of humans
30:41 - Suffering
51:22 - Hitler
1:09:54 - Benjamin Netanyahu
1:28:17 - Peace in Ukraine
1:45:07 - Conspiracy theories
1:59:46 - AI safety
2:14:04 - How to think
2:23:47 - Advice for young people
2:26:28 - Love
2:36:38 - Mortality
2:41:02 - Meaning of life
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1:24 - Intelligence
20:19 - Origin of humans
30:41 - Suffering
51:22 - Hitler
1:09:54 - Benjamin Netanyahu
1:28:17 - Peace in Ukraine
1:45:07 - Conspiracy theories
1:59:46 - AI safety
2:14:04 - How to think
2:23:47 - Advice for young people
2:26:28 - Love
2:36:38 - Mortality
2:41:02 - Meaning of life
I hope you get sponsored by redbull
Sickening having one of these fascistic social engineers on, Lex. Do your research on the WEFs nwo agendas mate.
Well, its funny how hard working Asian American men are castrated and neutered by the western media while at the sametime promote racist Asian fetish. Now, that shows you human nature, this is what happens when you are too nice. I'm really surprised Asian men didn't fight back for so long. They should
Lex, you don't know what means "home" for russians? Go home means go into your borders and stay there!
Always edifying conversations with Yuval, Lex. Oчень хорошо!
Yuval : 'Cabals don't control everything'
Blackrock , Vanguard State Street : 'Yet'.
I sometimes, just sometimes get the feeling some interviews are intended as a subtle 'look ..over there' way of dispelling one narrative and inserting another.
he spiced a lie with some truth and clearly it's visible which one is which one, guy is just too confident in his lies and his ego is orbiting
@@tommyp1494 Yeah, very few comments on the actual show content just the same botlike repetitive Lex love.
@@tommyp1494Exactly I agree. Lex wont do it. He is smarter than he wants you to believe and his kindness persona seems fake Because Where are the TOUGH questions??? Maybe he is a weirdo as well Lex and likes to go to go deep in shit without actually understanding the consequences of not being careful with your words.
@@tommyp1494Id be willing to bet they are bots. I can’t remember the number but something like 50% of internet users are bots now. We should trust nothing.
@@tommyp1494bru i was starting to think i was the only one. the comments straight up have a template and it’s not even subtle. on some chat gpt sht with good grammar and everything
The ability to cooperate in unlimited numbers is the super power of humanity.
Absolutely
Wrong. This world belings to GOD!
"Our brains love language so much, that we do not need something to be correct. We just need it to be a beautiful story". For me, this summarizes this video's most important aspects.
Sounds like you believe in liars.
@@stupideunuchs6513 You believe your own lies.
Very intelligent reply 👌
“Our brains love language so much that we don’t need the facts to be correct, we just need it to be a beautiful story.”
~Lex Friedman
Music, architecture, aesthetics etc.
Yup, maybe: But not me, I can see. I'll eat with a fork, all you talk? Not me, I will be, .
@@BR-hi6yt ok, that’s a confusing reply 👌🏻
@@CamelxRavenNova2 Maybe a bot or AI ;)
@@Tangerinka410 your probably right
I realized this about people a few years ago, I have friends that believe farout conspiracy theories because they are more interesting than the boring truth. You can also see it in sales and marketing, I know people that buy beer based on the story printed on the label. For example, a lost family receipe from 1866, small batch, stored in oak casks from the Tuscany region or what ever, people eat it up.
This man has said some fucked up stuff about people and humanity as a whole. Wonder why Lex didn't ask him about it.
Part of the same team.
@@presidentdonaldbump150 I am truly beginning to believe this as well. I loved his interviews about black holes and physics, Etc, but he sure has had some scumbags on lately
You're not the only one who noticed
They delete the bad comments. Dont worry people know who he is despite it being memory holed. He will be the new WEF leader. "What will we do with all the useless people, we will drug them and make them play videogames" he is pro authoritarianism
I am Jordanian and also a Muslim Arab (insert stories), I began learning about civics and specifically American democracy just a week before the Israeli protests or demonstration, and I came to appreciate all the ideas of the European Enlightenment period, including those of john locke, and the ideas of the social contract, sovreignty of the People, Seperation of Power, and so much more and most relevant to this topic: the importance for checks and balances between the different segments of goverment (i.e. the ability for the judicial governemnt to "check and balance" the executive governemnt). It's sad to learn about what is happening in Israel and I can understand the frustrations of the people who are demonstarting. Yuval has been a long "look up" in my google search history. I read his book Sapiens when it was just days old. Observing Israel and then seeing Yuval speak in public has inspired me and I can appreciate this content, Lex.. And here I am writing a comment knowing I will be accompanied with anxiety caused by my inner "Stan" that will affect my confidence. Any ways hope who stumbles upon this comment appreciate the necessity to learn about civics and governance especially when attempting to understand these laws, policies, and their History.
thanks so much for this beautiful comment. support from Israel.
No such thing as American democracy
The childless commies in Israel & dog owners will lose their dictatorial powers if the judiciary becomes democratized.
@@albasdumbledorf5113 what countries are a better model of democracy, then the constitution and republic of the USA?
After having read the civics of western society, and observing and living near Israel.
Do you think the Palestine people would be better served by new Palestine leaders, than the current Palestine leadership?
From afar it seems the Palestine leadership is redundant and not progressive with peace reform, compromise, & uplifting the political, economic and social environment.
thank you both for this interview. it was such a pleasure watching, feeling and being aware of the things discussed
" pleasure" in all its all ambivalent " reality' ?😮
OMG the "it goes against the laws of nature" response is pure, simple, unassailable brilliance! Thank you.
Homosexuality?
@@chrisa7672but that's obviously a part of nature
Whenever there is dilemma or doubt on any issue whatsoever, I check it out with Nature and there is the answer.
@@analog_ape but not a part of the laws of nature lol
All the Authoritarian Leaders shared the same skill - 'psychopathy in action', and the ability to say or do anything, without feeling embarrassed or ashamed, and without any kind of ethos or principles, other than the idea that everyone should listen only to them. That is the story they tell, and desperate frightened people lap it up.
Yep, the average person is more frightened and less enlightened about the truth than you.
I could've sworn there was a totally and different and more plausible Story told about the 3rd Reich in this Podcast. But maybe i am just didn't get it.
We proles love to elevate psychopathy.
The part where he says that only mainstream ideas are constructive and conspiracy theorists are only spreading hate says it all. How is what he is doing not hatespeach? Because he tells it nice?
100%
What I really like is that you bring on peole with completely different outlooks on things, for example having had both Harari and Kennedy in the last few weeks. I despise Harari and what he is trying to accomplish for the WEF. But I could be mistaken about him, my perception could be wrong so I will watch this and maybe change my views. It is absolutley crucial that all people can have a voice and be heard and this channel is so valuable because of that.
While I disagree with you I’m going to say thanks for this comment, 99% of the others are just people saying he’s the “antichrist” based upon nothing. It’s rare to find someone open to change his mind and to listen to what the other side has to say
Love this comment because I've the opposite opinion (distrustful of Kennedy and a positive bias to harari). But I am on the same page about this channel the the entertaining of contrasting ideas.
What do you think he's trying to do for the WEF?
@@fafolaw he's on record saying that he wants to drug poor people and lock them in pods with video games because they're useless. Words to that effect. He's a monster
@@happyd9733 Source? I'm 99% sure that he never said that, that's ridiculous, I've watch many of his interviews and read his books
What about asking about his involvement with the WEF and how it is influencing governments to take action on important issues, yet no one has elected them? This would be the #1 question to ask this man.
Yea but that wont happen because Lex Friedman s podcast is about leveraging technology to perpetuate the capitalist order. We are already being enslaved 9-6 pursuing meaningless occupations designed to help the ruling class concentrate wealth in ever fewer hands. Does Lex Friedman ever raise this as an issue?
typical lex d zuking questions.. he should b way more critical
That's what NGOs do?
Hi, I took some notes with interesting/ novel ideas shared in this episode. I am sharing them below in case someone would like to quickly remind themselves of what was discussed.
- Difference between Intelligence vs Consciousness (solving problems vs feeling and suffering)
- Plants hold intelligence
- Pigs are more intelligent than dogs but convention says dogs have more consciousness
- What happens when personal relationships with ai make it conventional for some people to believe that the code has consciousness? (ethical problems surrounding legislation)
- People are superior to other creatures because stories make people connected en masse
- The most successful story is about money
- To decide if a story is real, you have to ask if it can feel (a nation cannot feel but the soldiers who died can feel)
- Ability to suffer as a test for consciousness
- Danger: anthropomorphization of suffering in AI (eg ai saying “Where have you been! I don’t see anything on your calendar” so jealousy) can hack into our operating system and make us believe that AI suffers - someone can use it to manipulate people
- Religions are different than other stories (such as nations) because their rules are not amendable
- Are you a liberal? yes if you agree that people should have:
- a right to choose their government
- a right to choose their destiny (profession, personal life)
- a right to choose their spouse
- Israel and Palestine: no motivation for a two-state solution on the side of Israel which has grown in power immensely in the last 10 years
- The development of high-tech surveillance methods meant that the occupation of Palestine became less costly and less bloody
- Harare claims that the system politicians go for now is a three-tier citizenship system:
- 1st Jewish Israelis
- 2nd Arab citizens of Israel
- 3rd Palestinians living in occupied Palestine
- peace is always possible but there is a lack of motivation
- Conspiracy theories: it is impossible for a small group of people to control world events because real history shows us that big groups of people hold a lot of power, do a lot of planning and things still proceed against the plan
- Introspection (acc to Harari one of the better human qualities) is non-verbal and comprehended through experience
- Meditation is not relaxing because you cannot predict what stories and memories will come up. Boredom is also tricky because it is connected to feelings of worthlessness. However, the way to peace is through boredom.
- The most important skill young people need to learn is the skill to keep learning new things. No one can predict what the world will look like in 10 years. Build your mind as a flexible mind.
- If something goes against the law of nature, it doesn’t exist. The scientific framework for condemning homosexuality doesn’t hold up.
- Life is feeling things and reacting to them. To understand life you need to observe it in a non-verbal manner. Try to answer “what really is happening when you suffer?”
Yuval doesn't even know what the term consciousness means. It does not mean emotion (or the ability to feel emotion). Consciousness means what it is like to be (that thing). Even a rock has consciousness.
@@TheeFitnessEnthusiast Consciousness is the ability to experience.
@@Marcus32131 some would call this sentience ; in science, consciousness usually means more sth like self-awareness
How much Ritalin/Adderall did you take to do that??
@@TheeFitnessEnthusiast human consciousness is entirely dependent on feelings, any other type of consciousness is purely fictional since we never experienced it so in my opinion his definition works
“The future is not just happening. The future is built by us, by a powerful community, as you here in this room. We have the means to improve the state of the world . . .” -Klaus Schwab. So clearly there’s no conspiracy to see here!
Be careful, he might accuse you of thinking that a few individuals are the masters of the world, and that you think the Pfizzer shot contains 5G chips.🤪
@@kyledrake9750🎉🎉
@@kyledrake9750They're actually operating (tho maybe not exclusively) at 2.4GHz, what you can easily verify with some older phone via Bluetooth device discovery (with Android 7 or older). Prepare to have your world turned upside down, if you have a courage to do so ;-)
@@kyledrake9750 only one person runs BlackRock and another one Vanguard. What do you think theyre doing?
Top interview!!! I loved the answers, listening at them many many times. And I loved the questions, the way you put them. Great
My reaction (from The Netherlands)... Thanks for your all the intervieuws with people with so many different sights of the the world. I helps me to think about things in so many different ways. To try to be open. I often say: "Every day I am learning". And I am!!! I am 68 years old, this learning process is still going on. Thanks to you and so many other thinkers. Always look at both ways. I Wish you well.
At 30:20 he makes a point about how stories can end up killing people, but fails to reflect on how this relates to the stories he and the WEF tell.
bud, the WEF has no power over you. stop being afraid of ghosts
This is actually a mind-torture tactic. To be doing something to your victim while claiming you're not, and trying to make your victim out to be crazy. This is the final move before force comes into play.
poor Palestinians
Typical process of the sociopaths
Gaslightng
This is the true definition of gaslighting.
@@UC0FVA9DdusgF7y2gwveSsng gaslighting is a term that is used very loosely in everyday conversations, often referring to lies told by a spouse or a partner. That's why I said that this is the true meaning of gaslighting.
wow...this particular podcaste is by far the most I was able to follow...loved it!
What a great conversation, and also easy to understand and follow! Others like the one with Joscha Bach have more depth but they torture our poor minds with a million ideas per second, this one was just the right balance.
Not me, I can see. I'll eat with a fork, all you talk? Not me, I can see.
@@BR-hi6ytOcean, fish, jump. China.
many small time make big time.
@@sourcejoshwtf r u talking about? You make no sense
He is so non depth and he likes to torture his fellow minds as a german against the jewish. Can to see that?. He is Hitler himself. What a pity.
@@krishnakandel624It is called Haiku. Very deep, like Ocean. But also chaotic and confusing, from which we get Confucius. No?
The part about boredom being connected to feelings of worthlessness, which in my case will lead to guilt and anger towards myself. WOW ! It felt like balm to hear him say that...even if you intuit it and know it on some level, hearing another person pinpoint and articulate it, is liberating. Compassion, starting with self compassion, listening and conversing with each other to try and understand who we really are, it is moving. Thank you Mr Harari and Mr Fridman for this wonderful conversation.
All we need Is a goal like walk 2 miles every day . Or run 10 miles. Or walk 1 mile. Just even 1 tuff but reachable goal helps me 😊
@@gaberoyalll I think that missed the point @lublack3236 was making. To be bored has 2 components - the one you pointed at - an inability to engage oneself but also a second and depper meaning - an inability to engage another consciousness/person enough to command their attention. One feels worthless because here you are in a world of 8 billion people and nobody seems to be interested in spending their time with you - speaking generally of course - sure if you are a young attractice woman you can hold someones engagement but with the clear understanding that its transactional. Not sure there's a solution to the second challenge other that deep personal work and societal overhaul.
100B have lived and died already...
100T could have been born but were not...
You are reading this now...
And you have the temerity to be bored?
Godspeed fellow homo sapien...
I don’t want this conversation to end, I’ll be bored when it’s over….
Ведущий уставший.
I find my favorite thing is his ability to communicate so clearly. He takes stands and perspectives I don't necessarily agree with, but he seems to do it with a still open mind and very lucid language. Great listen!
Hitler had the same ability and look what happened with that
@@aspartamekillsyaknow9019 Hitler is a great example of a polar opposite of what I am describing… he was foaming at the mouth and fervently appealing to emotionality of fearful audience. Not still nor open minded lmao.
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@@aspartamekillsyaknow9019 how come all the negative commenters here like you write the most retarded shit with no explanations or arguments?
Yes, clear communication of a strange reasoning: Sorry, Yuval, your are not right. Life IS a story, a personal one. Your life is no exception and you speak about your story. Human life is so much more than reacting. BTW the human life is very different from that of animals also because we have a personal (hi)stories. When our life is not aligned with the biblical stories, it does not cause their falsity. Do not be afraid of death - the meeting with God your Creator is still there ahead. I would like to talk to you so much in detail and I think I could persuade you about Deity in a single talk. God does not hate anyone.
Yuval is an amazing communicator and thinker. His work in AI and questioning where this is all going is direly needed and I am totally impressed with his take on what is happening in Israel right now. Fascism is indeed on the march and his discussion of all these issues is so thought-provoking and truly brilliant
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🌌 *Yuval Noah Harari discusses the idea of being trapped in a world of illusions created by an alien intelligence, emphasizing the importance of understanding what lies behind the illusion.*
02:00 🧠 *Harari points out that intelligence is not necessarily directed towards amplifying happiness and discusses the difference between intelligence and consciousness.*
05:53 👾 *Harari mentions the possibility that intelligent beings may already be on Earth, referring to AI as "alien intelligence" and discusses the challenge of proving consciousness in entities.*
09:41 🤖 *Harari discusses the idea that computers, while not conscious, can form intimate relationships with humans, leading to potential legal implications.*
18:48 💡 *Harari highlights the potential dangers and benefits of new technologies, emphasizing the need for careful deployment and regulation to avoid failed experiments.*
25:28 📖 *Stories have immense power in shaping reality, and their influence grows when many people believe them, as seen with cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin.*
26:57 🌍 *Stories often outlive individuals and can lead to conflicts and even wars when people fight over the narratives, not the physical reality.*
28:54 😔 *Stories and narratives, while influential, lack consciousness and the ability to feel, making feelings a critical aspect of true existence.*
34:23 🤖 *The question of whether AI can suffer becomes essential when considering its ethical treatment and rights similar to humans and animals.*
39:49 🌐 *Truth in human history is often shaped by stories and ideas, even when those stories are fictional, and suffering is a significant component of truth.*
50:57 🌍 *Decisions by individuals, like Vladimir Putin, can have a significant impact on world events, as seen in the war in Ukraine.*
51:24 🧐 *Hitler's rise to power was not inevitable; it was a result of human decisions, and it could have been different with a few changes.*
52:54 🌐 *Germany's path to prosperity did not require the Second World War; it was an unnecessary choice made by the Nazis.*
55:25 📖 *Hitler's storytelling ability and the simplicity of his narrative contributed to his popularity and the appeal of Nazism.*
57:48 🕊️ *Fascists and communists create attractive narratives that emphasize the virtue of their followers and the evil of their enemies, making it difficult for individuals to see the darker side.*
01:16:30 🇮🇱 *The situation in Israel is at a crucial moment, with protests, resistance within armed forces, and high-tech companies considering strikes due to concerns about a messianic dictatorship gaining power.*
01:18:59 🕊️ *The conflict between Israelis and Palestinians has shifted from a national conflict to a religious one, making compromise more difficult.*
01:19:58 💡 *Motivation is a key obstacle to achieving peace in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, with neither side currently showing enough motivation for peace.*
01:21:56 📡 *Technological developments have made it easier for Israel to control the Palestinian population, impacting the conflict dynamics.*
01:24:23 🇿🇦 *While some compare the situation to apartheid, there are differences, particularly in terms of the goals and demands of the parties involved.*
01:29:24 🤝 *Conversations and stories have the potential to bring about positive change, even in complex conflicts, by addressing the underlying narratives.*
01:31:27 🌐 *The effectiveness of conversations in politics depends on where real conversations take place, and the current state of American politics suggests a lack of such spaces for meaningful dialogue.*
01:35:53 🌍 *Stories and narratives can be powerful tools for change, as seen in the success of movements like feminism, which achieved significant social change through dialogue and storytelling.*
01:40:21 ⏳ *History is accelerating, and the future of humanity may involve changes that go beyond Homo sapiens, possibly eliminating the need for human historians.*
02:08:21 🤖 *Yuval Noah Harari emphasizes the importance of developing human consciousness alongside artificial intelligence (AI) to prevent potential catastrophes.*
02:09:48 📚 *AI-generated texts are remarkably coherent and convincing, even if they contain inaccuracies. This phenomenon highlights the power of language and storytelling.*
02:12:46 🌟 *Yuval Noah Harari believes that the deepest and best qualities of humans, such as compassion and introspection, are non-verbal and do not come from words.*
02:16:45 🧘♂️ *Yuval Noah Harari emphasizes the importance of meditation and silent introspection in his daily routine for observing thoughts and sensations without attachment.*
02:23:44 💡 *For young people, Harari suggests that the most important skill is the ability to keep learning and adapting throughout their lives, given the uncertain future job market.*
02:32:56 🏳️🌈 *The internet has helped diffused communities like LGBTQ people find each other, providing a sense of community for those who historically felt alone.*
02:34:54 💪 *You often need help from others to discover the truth about yourself and achieve your goals, whether in love, activism, or personal growth.*
02:36:52 💀 *All fears, including the fear of death, stem from the deep fear of mortality, but we often face smaller fears as proxies for the larger existential fear.*
02:41:13 🤔 *The meaning of life is not a grand story but rather the continuous experience of feeling things, having sensations, emotions, and reacting to them. To understand life, focus on the nature of suffering and its origins.*
02:44:15 🎙️ *This long-form conversation with Yuval Noah Harari explores the depth of human experiences and ideas, emphasizing the value of extended discussions.*
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Thank you both for this wonderful conversation. I really like listening to Yuval because he has something to say, to explain, and I like him a lot because he knows how to say that he doesn't know. I've already listened to this podcast twice and I think I will again. I don't speak English, but I use google translation to help me. Lex, you act very seriously and responsibly
Yuval is a WEF shill, why didn't you question him about his support for it and his connection to Klaus Schwab?
Who do you think lex Fridman works for lmao
Have Klaus Schwab on next!!! He has wonderful ideas to help people with his Great Reset. We will own nothing and be happy!
Oh that Gargoyle that dresses like darth vadar? 😅
@@kezza6921he dresses like a bond villain lol
You mean Emperor Palpatine 😂
He probably also has great recipes with bugs for the people
Own nothing and be happy…been done, doesn’t work
Crazy this has been sitting in my Watch Later playlist for months. I randomly decided to watch it and seems very related to what's going on in the world right now. Fantastic discussion, thank you both ❤
This interview deserves an award, incredible.
Agree 100%!
Lex forgot to ask Hahari about his involvement with WEF but let’s him speak about conspiracy theories.
That was the opportunity to challenge this guy by asking him more about these people and about the “conspiracy theory” behind dabos (rich club meetup”
Lex let him off the hook, which ruined this interview. Opportunity wasted.
You know nothing about this man.
Davos
He gave a speech there and that automatically makes him some sort of evil globalist ? Lots of assumptions you have here it seems.
@@ageresequituresse
Unfortunately I know more about Harari than I want.
I asked chatGPT to convince me I should have ice cream tonight, Yuval Noah Harari style:
"As the stars emerge to paint the night sky, and the world's cacophony softly subsides, seize this fleeting moment to delight in ice cream's unpretentious allure. Embrace the symphony of taste and the rush of emotion it brings. Allow it to remind you of the small, remarkable joys that give life its richness and purpose."
Ice cream is a lie. Take the red pill instead.
Thank you again for a very interesting talk!
One of your best so far.
Thanks for this amazing deep conversation with Yuval Noah Harari.
A soft interview.
The AI issues were well covered. Harari's points about the dangers of AI making decisions, and manipulating our emotions are well made, BUT
for Lex Friedman to let him ramble on about conspiracy theories without covering Harari's role in the great reset of the WEF and Klaus Schwab implies Lex is a fellow traveller.
wow so not believing in a conspiracy theory, or (even worse apparently) not employing its euphemisms, is evidence of their involvement in a conspiracy? what a fucking joke
Ukrainian innocent putin monster, this moron should be placed in a proper gulag in siberia to heal
Thank you Lex for continuing to ask advice for young people from all your guests. I hope to see that tradition continue in future podcast episodes.
I like this too.
I also like older people being included. I'm not young, but I'm not dead yet either. ;)
@@babayadaexactly mate were always learning 👍
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@@paulmcduff1930*we're
@@joemama7163 who made you the spell checker lol 😂👍
I can sit all day and listen to YNH talk ❤
I wish Israelis and Palestinians calm down for few minutes and listen to him and realize they only fight over a story, and nothing more.
Narratives have ideas, ideas have powers, ideas change people, motivate them!
This was my second auditing of Lex 390. Once was not enough!
You really got the best of Yuval by letting him just talk all the time uninterrupted! We can tell he was truly enjoying the whole conversation. Thank you for this Lex!
Snark gets you nowhere but a few comment likes. Let’s hear your gripes and points against what he said that you disagree with. Would love to hear it, truthfully
So its great that Lex let's Yuval talk uninterrupted but not when it's Netanyahu
@@Nick-Salvhe said plants are intelligent.
@@user-ti5rb1mx5x in their own capacity, I’d agree. The right word to use here may not be “intelligence” as we understand our own or even that of an animal’s or insect’s … but there’s something there. He also likened them to an “alien intelligence,” admitting that neither he nor we have quite understood much about plants just yet today. But if you’re curious and can have an open mind, go read a little of Peter Wohlleben or Stefano Mancuso or some Michael Pollan, all of whom have covered plant “intelligence” or whatever you’d like to call it. We’ve only scratched the surface on what we know about plants… they’re not just for smoking, bud!
@@JFK762that’s how libs roll. Humanist hell holes are brilliant, and sensibility is “hate”. I am not religious, but it is exactly as described in the Bible
Please have Tim Ballard on your show.
Please don't 🙏
@@Thomas...191 why not?
@@gladjohnson3117 because he likes what sick people do to kids
Please do.
@@supernalbjj that's why. If you don't like him you get called that. It's like the criticism proof defense of people like Ibrahim x kendi, if he gets criticised; those people are racists. When a criticism or skeptical view of a story or film is met with "you must be a child predator"; I get seriously bored with the stupidity and pathetic self-righteousness.
Excellent approach Harari has regarding confirmation bias. I have a similar approach and he's right. You learn much more when you approach life and a problem the way he explains. And it's a better approach to discover and learn ways on how to deal with life.
Simply, just BRAVO. Awesome talk, enjoyed every moment of it 👏 I wish I could not just give one, but a thousand of likes
The idea that struck me most:
- human life is dependent on stories
- the main danger of AI is us losing control
- we need to keep reinventing ourselves, because the future is more uncertain than ever
You naive fool. How long until your government 'accidentally' loses control over AI? Who are you going to put in jail when the AI starts making decisions on your life? Are you going to report the AI to the authorities? What are the authorities going to do then? Obviously they have 'lost control'. How convenient.
My favorite aspect of the 21st century is the ability to see my enemies in high definition hours at a time.
frightens me that few peoples in the comment section know who this guy really is.
@@johnmachter40right
Something I've noticed on any video of Yuval that is odd, in the comments section you always get a huge number of very young accounts, praising Yuval and how amazing he is, almost like someone is running a bot farm on any video he appears in...
@@disposabull any evidence or are you making this up? I just checked 4 comments (all positive) to either side of OP, and here are the join dates: 2006, 2008, 2019, 2012.
@@jonbbbb Go look at the people reply to negative comments, for example johnmachter40 just above, 2021 date.
It's never a very long comment.
This is seriously one of the best episodes I’ve heard so far and so contemporary!
I’m unsubbing lex cause he keeps hosting globalist shills and institutional shills. The only good guest he had in the past two months is like two people.
You realize how evil this dude is, right?
@@tylerweaver8596 he finds this episode "one of the best episodes i've heard" , dont take him seriously
WOgenius is a WEF PR team member and genocidal maniac....
True
I followed Mr. Hararai's presentation when he gives advice on how to think and says what is important for the new generations of people to come. He says that a person must constantly reinvent himself and make changes, I think that is not the way a wise person should go. If you are constantly working changes in yourself and you keep inventing yourself, in fact you always go back to the starting point and keep going around in circles. People need to learn, meditation is also desirable, I also meditate and make notes afterwards, but one thing I want to say is when a person really learns and realizes new things, he does not reinvent himself and must not change, because then he returns to the starting point and rejects the knowledge he has acquired, knowledge must not be erased and reinvented, it must only be built upon and expanded, because no one knows where the limit is our knowledge and we must carefully guard it and not constantly invent ourselves, because in this way they reject the acquired knowledge and fall into the trap that someone else thinks for them and injects them with new knowledge according to their goals and plans.
So, to conclude - my people, study as much as possible to be as educated as possible and constantly supplement your knowledge and expand it.
hi @lexfridman . thanks for this incredible conversations you have in this channel.
about the danger and emotive manipulation AI could apply to "control" us with "stories" and "fiction": i was thinking about narcisists, which could be a kind of "model" to study what an AI could be or do: no emotions only stories on stories on fictions to achieve a cold (im?)personal achievment. We as human are still far from high general and common level of counsciousness and we actually kind of are unaware of narcisism in society, we are full of narcisists in our daily life and many of them are admired and accepted as strong person... the concept of emotions is becoming less and less important and seen as a mere shadow of some sort of weakness to use ... AI could be the final narcisist? are narcisist in the end really counscious being? Narcisist doesn't suffer...Are we sure that those leaders we follow (good or bad) are really mostly all thruthful and not just narcisists who just (by chance) happen to lead specific ideology?? That brings that thing that IDEAS are using us to spread through the easiest and more functional channels: narcisists...
😊😊😊😊 😊
The fact that two-thirds plus of the 'western world' are on anti-depressants which are known to reduce empathy down to zilch in such unfortunate folk does not help. Hence there is a distinct lacking of emotion guidance in our society, spawning psychopaths with narcissistic traits by the hundreds of thousands, millions even? 😔
Ask if his boss is reachable for an interview.
I'm interested hear from Lucifer himself next.
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I think that your "lucifer" is just a clown, a proxy for something else.
Antisemitism will never die. Btw, did you know Lucifer's middle name is "Tucker"?
One of your all time great podcasts Lex. YNH just seems to be incredibly knowledgeable about every single subject on planet Earth
I spent time ruminating about the conversation with Yuval Harari.
YNH gave me much food for thought
Knowledge and even intelligence does not necessarily denote wisdom. Intelligence and knowledge drives the impulse towards 'can such or such be accomplished?' whereas knowledge tempered with wisdom tends towards the impulse of 'should such or such be accomplished?'. I hope that you are intelligent enough to comprehend the significant difference! YNH clearly utterly lacks such wisdom!
This guy is anti-human filth.
Fascinating. I love this discussion. Especially the discussion about the kabal and the analysis of the political situation in Israel.
4:40 Prof Harari: “to have consciousness without any intelligence is impossible”
Me: “…hold my beer”
😂😂😂
It even takes massive intelligence to act stupidly, even a damaged brain is marvel of biology
Hysterical. Thank you.
Homer Simpson is appreciative of beer holders and 🍩 donuts. 🍩🍩🍻🍺
lol
" If we can not listen and pay attention to our own breath for more than 5 seconds how do we pretend to understand more complex concepts " 👏👏👏
Still the same man cannot breathe while he's talking. He has no idea how to talk and breathe. So whole interview is waste of time.
Focusing on one's breath can be boring. Complex concepts are more interesting and fun, therefore worth focusing on for hours to enjoy the final understanding and accomplishment.
@@observerone6727you'll most likely misunderstand if your attention span is terrible.
clearly yuval hasn't a clue about the Numinous. He suffers from arrested development, thus the binary human vs machine reduction. Toddler
@@deborahkate1849 he says it's all conspiracy theories but he points the Chinese or Russians as a society who do this dictatorial practices. But he assumes US or Europe does not! 🤦
Great interview , thanks to you both
How Blessed we are that we have two such people sharing a conversation that allows us to stretch our own mental capacity.
I speak for myself but perhaps other people may feel the same too.
I know that perhaps the may be agnostic or even atheist but i believe they are gifts from our Creator.
This was a great conversation.
I found it particularly interesting that Yuval did not mention the WEF in his exploration of global cabals. He made it seem as if there is no globalist organization “penetrating cabinets” and imposing control over entire gov factions. He made it seem as if global cabals didn’t work with the established and public structures of power around the world. That was disappointing since he is the second in line for WEF and has talked about controlling all people and creating a new religion that can use tech to ensure compliance with the new doctrines of said religion.
Still, hearing two brilliant minds is always a pleasure.
Sociopaths using capitalism and elite networking for their own goals is not the same as a "global cabal" directing everything, even though the outcome might be very similar.
Harari certainly isn't "the second in line for WEF" and if/when he talks about "controlling all people and creating a new religion that can use tech to ensure compliance with the new doctrines of said religion" it is to warn. How could you listen to this video and think otherwise? I have read his books and ther is no doubt in my mind about his intentions.
Now you see why he's #2. He's no fool.
It absolutely amazed me that Harari did not mention he is a key advisor to Klaus Schwab, Executive Chairman of the WEF. Even worse is that Lex did not bring this fact up. Obviously, it was pre-planned to leave out one of the most important aspects of Harari's life. This is truly despicable, especially since the WEF has such devious plans to strip most humans of their basic rights. "By 2030 you'll own nothing and be happy." And what is the basic tenet of communism? No private property. CBDCs will allow surveillance of every transaction you make, and the gov't can control how you spend money and on what goods and services. The list of WEF's power-mad plans are mostly public, or can easily be imagined. What are YOU going to do to prevent the travesty of their near-total control over every human life? How can we convince Harari to switch teams and play for the good guys!?
exactly... the guy telling us that cabals dont exist is the #2 in the biggest one lol. He is saying the truth that they can't be secret, WEF aren't secret at all but very open about taking individuals freedoms away....
You WEF conspiracy guys are the best lolcows online
"Intelligence also tends to be self-destructive", "Intelligence is definitely not something directed towards amplifying happiness", "Intelligence, in any way, its a bit overvalued"👏👏He has such a depth to his perspective on intelligence. Some of the intelligent people I've met surprisingly lack self-awareness and have an overall hollowness to them. Which is so contradictory....
there's no positive correlation between intelligence and happiness
'For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.' Ecclesiastes 1:18
Interesting can you say deep about that
Sadly, what he means by intelligence is the general capacity to reason, not a special threshold on the IQ scale. So his statements don’t really support your unfair downplay of people with high intelligence 😢
@superb444 I would imagine that the happiness to intelligence ratio is like a bell curve. "Ignorance is bliss" after all. I've met some very highly intelligent people who are so completely oblivious to the world around them outside of their own interests that one could argue that they are just as ignorant as someone who has a lower IQ.
Thank you @lexfridman and @yuvalnoahharari for this thoughtful and enlightening discussion- thank you for sharing this information, knowledge, and wisdom - it will help people. Seek the truth.
Yuval Noah Harari stated “We are also exporting a lot of weapons and especially surveillance systems, sometimes to unsavory regimes.
Can you please comment more on what specific type of equipment you are talking about, and how it is being used?
"The truth has two big problems: it tends to be complicated and it tends to be painful."
This was one of the dumbest things he said.
@@oldhollywoodbriarNot really.
@@oldhollywoodbriarWhy?
a C-.
It's problematic for a dishonest (or untruthful?) mind.
@@jewjew4204 truth is simple, people who describe it as complicated usually do so before discarding it. In a lot of ways, Harari is completely blind to geo politics and culture, this is why truth is complicated for him, it’s because he doesn’t have truth.
I like what Yuval said at the end when advising young people. I re-invented myself so many times, the best new skill is to keep evolving !!
His last invention is being WEF's bitch.
Eugenics Light™
A play on words, very interesting interview. Some points spot on. We don’t know what we can’t prove only theories.
Aye, laddie. I turn 70 this year and am still re-inventing meself. The road is the destination.
@@richardcollier1912 i feel sorry for you if you still havent found yourself at 70. what a wasted life old man
Yuval is a joy to listen to on many subjects.
Noah loves long interviews? So do I - with him, the genius with heart.
Lex Fridman is a rare one as interviewer, with heart.
This is the best two hours I've ever spent on RUclips.
I was just trying to read something without my glasses, and the letters were blurry, but I could still read, even though I couldn't really see some of the letters. I wonder if this ability is dependent on this story mechanism that Yuval is talking about. I realize that this scenario is quite different, but I'm thinking, I see these images; they have some similarties to "what I expect" to see; and so I'm able to read, despite lacking sufficient information from the image alone. This "what I expect" seems kind of like Yuval's "story".
Eat bugs, stay your whole life in your neiborhood, own nothing and been monitored 24/7.
Then you will be happy!
The above recipy is lovingly provided by the wef and harari.
💯 Exactly
@@gypsystargirl6626 leave us alone. We love our coompods 🤪
Exactly...scrolling through the blind comments of so many having no idea what a psychopathic worm this guy is.❤
@@finstereric1695it's so bad we can't laugh at your joke tho. Sorry homie
@@DreamseedVR nahhhh gotta have some humor man. It's more damaging to them than us being all serious and looking weak as a result.
Our reaction to this dialectic is more important than what they think they can do to us. So far they are offering us smut and drugs. Degenerate is to de-generate or "destroy our power" They cannot destroy us. They need us to destroy ourselves. Anyway, these dudes are caricatures and it is to laugh
If as Hariri says a small group of people are not conspiring to control the world, why not ask him directly about the World Economic Forum’s global plans and what his role is in that group??
Starting a conspiracy are we?
@@piratessalyx7871starting? The WEF rabbit hole goes deeper than most conspiracies
I loved his books
This show just shifted my afternoon plans
Do you mind sharing?
@@Sarada.Amaru.999uhhh? This dude was planning on watching a movie or gaming, maybe going for a walk/going to the gym and now instead he’s watching this? What were you expecting?
@@Sarada.Amaru.999never mind. Just saw your channel. I get it now.
@@europeanmango6596 OK...I wish you well.✌
I agree with the premise, Ai can't be presented as a real human. It's one thing that makes sense and doesn't stop progress.
Yuval is no better or above anyone else on the planet. He’s his own person, but wants everyone to ultimately live under what he feels is correct. Yet by his own standard we’re all just determined to be a certain way from our nature. So who is he to say anyone else is wrong for believing in something he doesn’t? Leave the rest of the world alone, and create your own space to thrive in if you think we’re all determined to be a certain way. There comes a point where you can’t just blame everyone else for your own issues, when you’re the one who can choose to “free” yourself in the end.
I was thinking the other day, life is suffering. And after listening to several of Lex's discussions, I noticed a theme of wanting to hang on to some suffering. Like, if we were to eliminate suffering, what would happen? I'm pretty sure we would die very soon after that. Like, most people only go to work because they wish to avoid the suffering of poverty. Why not just stop working? Because then you'll run out of money. Who cares? Why do you need money? To buy food and pay rent. Why do you need those things? To survive. Why do you need to survive? Well, that's sort of like a rewording of "What's the meaning of life?", right?
It seems to me, we are simply compelled to survive. Could we just quit trying to survive? Is it directly linked to suffering? Well, I think most people would feel fear if they really considered stopping trying to survive. It's sort of the same thing as suicide. Although I guess the phrase "stopping trying to survive" elicits a more peaceful death than "committing suicide".
But anyway, yeah, I think it's not really that you think you need to survive, but you're driven to survive by the fear of the pains that you would experience if you stopped trying to survive. And you've probably experienced some of these pains. The pain of the cold. The pain of sitting on a hard concrete surface. The pain of a sunburn. The pain of hunger. So if you eliminated all of those sufferings, what would you do?
I think most people would do something fun, or something they have wanted to do, but didn't because of their fears. Why would you stop and go eat? You might say "so that I can keep having fun"; but then you're really just serving a fear again, to prevent a suffering. The suffering of that fun ending.
So it seems like suffering is fundamental to intelligence, if the agent is to survive.
But what about a robot that is simply programmed to survive? Maybe it's programmed with some information about things that can lead to its destruction, as well as some algorithms for learning about other things that can lead to its destruction, and other algorithms to survive. Couldn't it be that it does all that activity and feels nothing? No fear or anxiety or pain?
And if so, couldn't we remove the pain part of our experience, and only have the intelligent survival?
What would such an intelligent survival look like? Would you eat candy? You are intelligent, so you know that candy is going to destroy your teeth, and make you fat; and that would decrease your ability to survive; so you would not want to eat the candy. But the candy is pleasurable; so now you have a problem. How do you reconcile it? Well, it seems that the normal human behavior is to eat the candy; so apparently that is more valued in the human nature program, than survival.
Great questions. I think removing the suffering would look a lot more like living with intention and making conscious choices. Perhaps like the choice to grow one's own food instead of slaving away at a desk to work for money, etc.
Choosing not to engage in fighting or victimhood, etc.
Of course, for all that to really add up to less suffering, it would require more people to be on board with that agenda. It's easy to say these things and much harder to execute when we're in a (completely man-made) economic depression.
But hey, it's still worth doing a little part to try and teach future generations, and help ourselves.
Nobody reads more than 3 raws....
Maybe next Lex could talk to Klaus Schwab and let him explain how he's just a very misunderstood guy trying to make the world a better place 🤣
Typical sheep comment. Didn’t listen to the podcast and jumped to judge without context. GTFOH.
Exactly 😂 Why Lex just lets these people on to talk like they’re completely right without pushing back on anything they say, I don’t know, but it’s almost like he is one of them 🤷🏻♂️ hopefully one day we see someone with balls who can get these people on and hold a fire under their feet.
@@dlwf11111 Because Lex is in the club, dude is huge friend of Zuckerberg etc lol
This was an incredible interview. Thanks for your dedication Mr. Fridman and your guest as well.
You will eat ze bugs
Thank you, Lex. Wonderful conversation that inspired me!
Lex , i thank you so much when you ask about meditation
This was a very thought-provoking video. Yuval should have a Q & A blog or radio show.
Thanks both of you for such enlightening conversation, I’m very appreciative of your generosity by sharing with us your wisdom. Blessings😊
It’s not just about suffering. It’s about respect for something other than yourself. Compassion does not require suffering. But compassion is the willingness to suffer for the other. And it goes both ways, it should.
I am very much looking forward to a conversation between the Dutch philosopher Bernardo Kastrup and Lex Fridman.
Wouldn’t that be refreshing…
Great talk!
I agree. I've never seen Bernardo being on a podcast in person though. He's always doing the video call thing. I hope he would make an exception for Lex.
Same, I just made an episode with him myself. He’s great.
Highly recommend Reuven Bar-Levav's book "Thinking in the Shadow of Feelings "
I loved it, this podcast. Thank you a million! Thank you! I've learned a lot of things. Precious things. What an evening!
No matter how truthful he can sound!
if monsters looked like monsters they would not suceed
@@Philip-ze7uhThe truth isn't with myths worshippers like you.
Q. Where do the real conversations take place?
A. WEF Forum...
an authoritarian regime can still have different voices... the power of stories in peoples' minds maximizing suffering while simultaneously suppressing stories that are counter to WEF agenda.
Yuval, in spite of suffering, the caged bird can choose to sing or not...
great guest I enjoyed listening
I've seen a number of edits of Yuval's speaking engagements at the WEF and other events in "conspiratorial" content here on RUclips. With that being my first and only information set on the author, I was ready to categorize him as "one who hates humanity". After watching this interview I was left with a completely opposite conclusion! Ironically Lex and Yuval speak on the topic of conspiracy and the dangers of the false information that now lives in ones mind. I will be consuming more of Yuvals work, but straight from the source himself this time. I truly loved so much of what he expressed in this interview. And as always Lex... Another great episode from my favorite podcast and host!
The Don to Micheal "always keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer to you". Keep Yuval real close!
I don't think Lex realizes that Yuval is an enemy to mankind. Or if Lex does but didn't question Yuval then we should start calling him Lex Luthor.
@@justinigoe2969why is Yuval evil/bad? This is my first podcast I saw with him. I read the Homo Sapiens book and the next one of Yuval. And I enjoy it. But I Don't know to much about him in general. Thanks!
@@cristinapichiu8288He's a gnostic and a eugenicist who works for a group that is attempting to create the NWO. Just read his book. Its frightening.
wow Lex, this was an incredible episode.
Harari is very motivated. He’s trying hard to be wise. Unfortunately he’s very young and naïve still. I’m looking forward to seeing if he ever achieves the wisdom he fancies.
so comforting, thank you!
I was waiting for this conversation after the Netanjahu piece. Thank you, keep doing what you do. Both of you.
Why doesn't Yuval go on an interview with Jordan Peterson. Oh wait... Then his ideas would be exposed for the foolishness they are.
@@envirojay Can you elaborate on what foolish ideas you mean?
@@ThePhil939He will never elaborate , at best he will throw some incoherent ramblings and curse you that's the internet conversations for you.
@@ThePhil939Yuval is a great thinker and I share his disdain for our current government but on the apartheid question his answers were driven by his left ideology and he seems to say that Israelis arabs have less rights than the jews and it is simply wrong … so while he is passionating to listen to , he failed to be accurate and correct on the only subject I know as good as him …. When i get fined by a policewoman wearing a hijab and our past president was sent to jail by an arabic judge I don’t get how anyone can justify this apartheid word for the state of israel . For judea and samaria ( west bank) it is a disputed place and separation exist because of the war , not because ideology. Many of our previous left center right governments tried peace unsuccessfully
@@prezervezefunkyour examples are faulty generalisations, just because there are some instances of equality means there is general equality.
Amazing...so pleased I listened to every moment. I received alot from this conversation. Thank you so much.
Did you like the fascist parts best?
@@jmac3327 I'm opened to all points of view to understand this complicated world. When words are hidden it is when I worry. Freedom of speech is important whether or not people are of similar opinion. Lex has lots of conversations on you tube that introduces different concepts
The fascist parts were not hidden.@@MeMe-lm9bm
I was very impressed with Lex asking about his role with the WEF, and the fact he wants the majority of us dead. Oh wait, that didn't happen
Jews protect Jews. Most of Lex views and folllowers are completely fake. He’s literally MOSSADS podcaster
Lex is incredibly naive
@@michaelk4740Either that, sheer unaltered humbleness before all things and all people… or a very intelligent agent who chooses to play dumb. Kinda like one Joe Rogan magically forgets many past talking points to let his guests go on and on about whatever angle they have. 😉 Or like one Tucker Carlson often does too. Actually reminds me of the formerly stellar Jon Stewart too, on a comical tone.
I used to, but I just no longer buy for one second that Lex would be that naive after so many deep talks with insanely insightful people. Lex is just staying in character on air while he evolves personally, shily away from public scrutiny. He’s more connected than one can imagine and thus knows more about most things than he ever lets on.
I think he’s on a true mission to pierce human nature somehow though, but the why is uncertain at this point. The man used to teach AI at the MIT ffs. 😅
@@victor38542 I have come to share your view on Lex in recent months. He displays an almost infuriatingly childlike naivety, but knowing how brilliant he is and the caliber of guests he brings, I can only conclude he has chosen to play the role of the clueless but curious host. It's nearly impossible to believe he isn't putting all the pieces together and evaluating the future with more skill. Seems he has taken the podcast forum as a means to play dumb in order to draw out the true intentions and insights of the people he brings on. Assuming that is the case, I'm much less irritated with the product.
where has he said anything about wanting most of us dead? Not rhetorical, genuinely curious
Yes, angels who brings gifts and protection from Allah, and jins who whisper in our hearts and minds, are living with us on earth .
Wow just wow....amazing interview!
When he said people kill each other based on stories. That touched me guys and that is 100% true. It's the fact.
Best stop listening to listening to WEF stories then?
Well congrats on being simple. Very liberal approach to history.
@@neoarmour “Everyone who disagrees with me is simple and I have to let them know I think so whenever I can.”
There's always more than one side to a story.
He is planning on killing BILLIONS of people based on his own stories. Probably not the best person to get all self-righteous about death and murder. Except for his murder is justified by his own concept of elitism.
I've been waiting for this chat literally for years.
Harari would be one of the few men who have understood what J Krishnamurti tried to say about meditation, life, observation etc.
Brilliant episode. Thank you.
Please remember any thoughts you are allowed to have.
Good or Bad can come to pass. U CHOOSE!❤
2:19:00 Train yourself to not become attached to your own nonsense sounds to me like an excellent advice to everyone wanting to start taking their meditational habit more seriously ✌️💯🇸🇪🇮🇹❤️
He is the spirit of hope and truth . He risks his life in order to spread the truth .
I really appreciated this talk. I’m sure it would be interesting to talk with Yuval Harari about the influence of money and in particular central bank control on human culture.
Thanks for everything you do Lex, you're an inspiration to a hell of a lot of people. Never stop mate.