FULL INTERVIEW: Ari Melber & Yuval Noah Harari on MSNBC’s The Beat (November 2023)

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  • What makes conspiracy theories so appealing? Why don’t humans always use wealth and technology in ways that benefit humanity? And why is the ‘New Right’ turning on conservative traditions?
    Watch MSNBC’s Ari Melber speaking with ‘Sapiens’ author Yuval Noah Harari about a huge array of topics in this extensive conversation, including: recent AI developments, global political trends, how history is written and interpreted, storytelling and ‘fictions’ as a force in society, the existence and meaning of God, the enduring impact of America’s ‘founding fathers’, Harari’s views of his own intellectual reach and criticism of his ideas. Recorded for MSNBC on November 14th, 2023.

Комментарии • 655

  • @tednash396
    @tednash396 8 месяцев назад +14

    I so much appreciate the tone of the dialogue. This was a coversation.

  • @betecorreiaatriz
    @betecorreiaatriz 9 месяцев назад +5

    Harari, you are the best!!

  • @robertginsburg8113
    @robertginsburg8113 9 месяцев назад +74

    What impressed me about Mr. Harari is his ability to keep his clarity of observation and not allow the thought process be corrupted by the information he consumes.
    He always manages to stay grounded in basic humanity.

    • @mountainair
      @mountainair 9 месяцев назад +6

      Agree. We need as many people like Yuval as possible now - those who can rise above the polarization and are committed to seeking truth, clarity, etc

    • @michaelboskovich6948
      @michaelboskovich6948 6 месяцев назад

      Ya he’s a great humanitarian this world needs more Noah’s this guy has the answers to everything he’s so smart - I’d follow him for sure.

    • @paular.4059
      @paular.4059 5 месяцев назад

      He is really fantastic, he has showed me the world and life in such a richest manner❤❤❤❤❤

    • @rickoringer2120
      @rickoringer2120 Месяц назад

      Hardly

  • @suzannefarrington4143
    @suzannefarrington4143 9 месяцев назад +8

    Yuval is a breath of fresh air. A role model. Ari is a very capable interviewer, and he gives us a chance to see the corporate news world intersect with a humble, yet commanding, public intellectual.

  • @isetfrances6124
    @isetfrances6124 9 месяцев назад +8

    So healthy. As an historian I’m grateful for his reach into our future🩷👏🏽

  • @cloggietony
    @cloggietony 8 месяцев назад +6

    Love it. Thank you Ari for having invited him.

  • @ralph1270
    @ralph1270 9 месяцев назад +10

    “History is not the study of the past, it is the study of change.” What a profound statement. As a History buff myself, I can understand it.

  • @jean-francoisferry1931
    @jean-francoisferry1931 9 месяцев назад +72

    I can’t recall where I heard this: we have prehistoric brains, medieval institutions, and god like technology. This is our dilemna.

    • @Northcountry1926
      @Northcountry1926 9 месяцев назад +5

      Well said

    • @cronix1
      @cronix1 9 месяцев назад +4

      Great quote, thank you for sharing. Definitely a Trilemma!

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater 9 месяцев назад

      you will be sacrificed to bring about their Ai God@@cronix1

    • @ananthan8951
      @ananthan8951 9 месяцев назад +1

      Soul is the subtle body which inhabits every sentient being. Humans have the widest individual evolutionary variance within species. In the circumstances of existence, in capacities and inclinations, in personality and destiny. In Indian philosophical traditions including Buddhism, the subtle body could just as well be involuted into one of a lower species.

    • @oriongps1181
      @oriongps1181 9 месяцев назад +4

      The Origins of Creativity, chap. 9 "Bedrock". Liveright Publishing, 2017
      Therein lies the dilemma of the humanities. They, and with them a large part of liberal education, are expected to describe and explain the essence of a social world of Paleolithic emotions, mediaeval institutions, and godlike technology with no clear idea of meaning or purpose.

  • @bhaswatidas7976
    @bhaswatidas7976 9 месяцев назад +11

    This man is out of this world!!

  • @meandego
    @meandego 9 месяцев назад +7

    "History is not about remembering the past, it's about liberating ourselves from it."

    • @rayssis2
      @rayssis2 20 дней назад

      My favorite take so far

  • @lomps
    @lomps 9 месяцев назад +36

    Wow…Ari delivers one of the best interviews of Yuval Harrari that I have ever seen! Thanks!

  • @marynurijanyan3099
    @marynurijanyan3099 3 месяца назад +1

    I just cant stop admiring this person, his every interview is a total revelation. Yuval Harari is the best!

  • @shymanskyportraitphotograp5086
    @shymanskyportraitphotograp5086 9 месяцев назад +17

    Absolutely the best hour I have ever spent. I have read all of Yuval's books and have introduced my children to them as well. Yuval is an incredible thinker, and we are fortunate to have him in our world.

    • @jannanijland5336
      @jannanijland5336 9 месяцев назад

      When is FOX interviewing him?

    • @samsonarchiekil7340
      @samsonarchiekil7340 9 месяцев назад

      Sorry you are very wrong, teaming up with the devil

    • @m3tamonk3y4
      @m3tamonk3y4 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@samsonarchiekil7340
      Idiot.

  • @josephgonzalez8972
    @josephgonzalez8972 9 месяцев назад +2

    Listen to this guy. He is right.

  • @Alwaysbaggyjeans
    @Alwaysbaggyjeans 2 месяца назад +1

    Fantastic interview

  • @meghan42
    @meghan42 9 месяцев назад +101

    I love Yuval. His formidable intellect is met with equal measures of kindness and compassion.

    • @Guckmalparty
      @Guckmalparty 9 месяцев назад +9

      You know that he considers you an animal which can be hacked, right?

    • @meghan42
      @meghan42 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@Guckmalparty Yawn.

    • @meghan42
      @meghan42 9 месяцев назад

      @@Guckmalparty Yawn.

    • @Guckmalparty
      @Guckmalparty 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@meghan42 Who's a nice puppy? Yes you are!

    • @YourTripleScorpio
      @YourTripleScorpio 9 месяцев назад +1

      DTs hackneyed hacks?

  • @ginger22ly
    @ginger22ly 9 месяцев назад +5

    I didn’t realize this show has deeply intellectual discussions. Wow on MSNBC!

  • @ljiljanageorge5689
    @ljiljanageorge5689 9 месяцев назад +2

    History is not about past, Harari said in this interview, but is about change. As long as nobody changes what really happened in the past, which is predominant in the present.

  • @dennismorris7573
    @dennismorris7573 9 месяцев назад +37

    Love hearing this brilliant man speak, Professor Yuval Noah Harari.

  • @nick_yt23
    @nick_yt23 9 месяцев назад +16

    Somebody please tell this guy Ari to stop interrupting the interlocutor when he’s answering his very question . Thanks .

    • @panchopuskas1
      @panchopuskas1 9 месяцев назад

      - he has to in case the guys mentions you-know-what.....

    • @ragged_claws_scuttling
      @ragged_claws_scuttling 9 месяцев назад +2

      I don’t know what…what?

    • @meghan42
      @meghan42 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@panchopuskas1 Yes, what?

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater 9 месяцев назад

      judaism@@meghan42

  • @Spartacus2474
    @Spartacus2474 9 месяцев назад +6

    Yuval Harari you have done a great job. Keep doing a great contribution to mankind.

  • @SiberFl
    @SiberFl 9 месяцев назад +5

    incredible man. history in a making

  • @anthonyokwedy7101
    @anthonyokwedy7101 9 месяцев назад +4

    Was just thinking to myself i have never seen this version of a Yuval interview and i consume a lot of them😅. Totally brilliant from two grounded thinkers.

  • @randabaker3675
    @randabaker3675 9 месяцев назад +2

    We are not animals
    God created us perfectly as humans

  • @victoriacampos7715
    @victoriacampos7715 9 месяцев назад +6

    Excellent! Thank you Yuval and Ari.

  • @sabahtahir1200
    @sabahtahir1200 9 месяцев назад +21

    Thanks for explanation and this great interview 👍🏼

  • @ireneclark3993
    @ireneclark3993 9 месяцев назад +5

    My father's favourite maxim You have to move with the times. Makes sense it shows a progress happening. It doesn't necessarily mean tear the whole thing down
    There are the means available for positive change but all people are rquired to engage to make it happen.

  • @feerozbabar6646
    @feerozbabar6646 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks noah hariri

  • @Waverlyduli
    @Waverlyduli 9 месяцев назад +60

    Loved this discussion: Harari's singular intellectual breadth and depth, Ari's warmth, intelligence and manner.

    • @ricardoheurich7824
      @ricardoheurich7824 9 месяцев назад +2

      Good review! Exactly right!

    • @olalekanajiteru1361
      @olalekanajiteru1361 9 месяцев назад +3

      Ari is a great and warm interviewer. Harari, what more can I say? Pure genius!

    • @anypercentdeathless
      @anypercentdeathless 9 месяцев назад

      Agree. Nice to see people finally realizing their childish religious beliefs are wrong.@@olalekanajiteru1361

    • @osomusic
      @osomusic 9 месяцев назад +1

      The interviewer?
      Half the time he hear him scrolling through his pages looking for his next question instead of listening.

    • @user-uy8iy5nh1j
      @user-uy8iy5nh1j 9 месяцев назад

      Wow. You like being called obsolete as a human?

  • @tomatoseed1443
    @tomatoseed1443 9 месяцев назад +4

    So glad Yurval mentioned breath and body awareness as the most important things, a nod to his Vipassana meditation practice.

  • @dennisossianderrmplmtcst2053
    @dennisossianderrmplmtcst2053 9 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you Mr. Harari, Mr. Melber and supporters for this discussion. ✨🙏✨ Kindly, Dennis

  • @MendeMaria-ej8bf
    @MendeMaria-ej8bf 9 месяцев назад +20

    What a great thinker! And in addition a likeable humanitarian!

    • @user-uy8iy5nh1j
      @user-uy8iy5nh1j 8 месяцев назад

      Humanitarian? How so?

    • @MendeMaria-ej8bf
      @MendeMaria-ej8bf 8 месяцев назад

      @@user-uy8iy5nh1j Why not?

    • @amandamcleam9031
      @amandamcleam9031 8 месяцев назад +1

      See what he says at WEF, he thinks humanity has no purpose, he's a liar!! Learn who your listening to before you let demonic people influence your thoughts. Wake up people

    • @MendeMaria-ej8bf
      @MendeMaria-ej8bf 8 месяцев назад

      @@amandamcleam9031 My impression is different from yours. I read some of his books and listened to some interviews. So far I can not share your opinion about him. Why do you think he's a liar or demonic?

  • @goldencitybythebay
    @goldencitybythebay 9 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent program

  • @chataugua
    @chataugua 8 месяцев назад +1

    Tho I have liked Melber in the past, I really had the feeling he was trying to get a "gotcha!" response from Harari, but Harari is too smart, humble and honest to respond and just tried to answer the questions.

  • @1980nikolov
    @1980nikolov 9 месяцев назад +3

    When Harari speaks, others should listen…

  • @natiblanchetyoga
    @natiblanchetyoga 9 месяцев назад +3

    It would be perfect if the interviewer didn't interrupt so much. Do they really listen? 🤔

  • @ireneclark3993
    @ireneclark3993 9 месяцев назад +5

    P.s
    Very interesting, woke my brain up this morning.

  • @pattyann562
    @pattyann562 9 месяцев назад +7

    Every time I listen to Jarai Yuval I am amazed at his unique and spot on ideas. I'm 70 and I've never had such clear understandings of how the evolution of societies and their ideas manifest in our world.
    I'm not previously seen Ari in this sort of interview and I am duly impressed and appreciative

  • @zionen01
    @zionen01 9 месяцев назад +14

    Few people I’m glad exists in this world for the better of humanity and this man is one of them.

    • @freedomlife3623
      @freedomlife3623 9 месяцев назад +2

      Sam Harris is another one, missing Mr. Christophen Hitchens greatly.

    • @amandamcleam9031
      @amandamcleam9031 8 месяцев назад

      No he's not, he's buddies with Klaus Schwabb and has a sick mind. He thinks humanity has no importance, wants to insert tracking chips, health and thought chips. He is not on the side of freedom or humans . Better listen to what he spews at the WEF meetings. He 8s part of the problem . Not much of a Jew either from what I'm hearing here

  • @HardeepSingh-tf3tt
    @HardeepSingh-tf3tt 9 месяцев назад +25

    A fascinating interview... Really enjoyed... Thanks a ton!

    • @ragged_claws_scuttling
      @ragged_claws_scuttling 9 месяцев назад

      As a Jew who has been questioning the existence of God lately, I am fascinated by the diverse religious communities in India. I hope you don’t mind me presuming your background. I have so much to learn about the Hindu, Sikh & Jain religions.

  • @MultiMurfi
    @MultiMurfi 9 месяцев назад +22

    Mr Harari , thank you for being you . Amazing .

    • @amandamcleam9031
      @amandamcleam9031 8 месяцев назад

      Investigate his thoughts before you listen to him. See what he says at WEF, he hates humanity

    • @MultiMurfi
      @MultiMurfi 8 месяцев назад

      @@amandamcleam9031 I did . For quite some time . And I like him . I hate some humanity too don’t you ? Chill . This planet is not LA LA land .

  • @regentblue
    @regentblue 9 месяцев назад +13

    Two brilliant humans talking!
    I wish this were 5 hours long.

    • @niemand6031
      @niemand6031 9 месяцев назад

      What is "brilliant" about the interviewer? Can you give an example of something brilliant he said in this video?

  • @AnthonyGauci-m3x
    @AnthonyGauci-m3x 9 месяцев назад +4

    Amazing, can never have enough of this smart guy. Down to earth, yet profound. Keep on sharing with us. You do have a shelf life

    • @mariobecker4401
      @mariobecker4401 8 месяцев назад

      A brilliant guy - MUCH more considering what's happening since Black Shabbat.

  • @syang1116
    @syang1116 9 месяцев назад +6

    Yes to liberate from the past..

  • @amadeoorellana6863
    @amadeoorellana6863 9 месяцев назад +2

    breath!! I love him!

  • @jamesleonard2870
    @jamesleonard2870 9 месяцев назад +4

    Great guest and great interview 🌊🏄‍♂️🪷

  • @menotq
    @menotq 9 месяцев назад +3

    A truly gifted well-rounded man. Pleasure to hear, him speak! the interviewer, hmmm

    • @tomatoseed1443
      @tomatoseed1443 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, I noticed that too. Humph!😮

  • @oscarvaquerano9381
    @oscarvaquerano9381 9 месяцев назад +3

    Outstanding. Thank you Ari

  • @MrCyclist
    @MrCyclist 9 месяцев назад +13

    Yuval is someone to emulate for his humility while having so much knowledge.

    • @amandamcleam9031
      @amandamcleam9031 8 месяцев назад

      Watch WEF , this man is part of the crazies trying to reset into authoritarianism. See how he hates humanity...be careful what you let into your mind and heart. He is buddies with Klaus Schwabb, the antichrist

  • @bambiwurscht
    @bambiwurscht 9 месяцев назад +5

    Good job getting into mainstream media! This world needs your voice as loud as possible!

  • @edmikhael1
    @edmikhael1 9 месяцев назад +3

    Fascinating person Noah.. and a beautiful mind.
    I am seriously thinking of appointing you as my personal GOD 😀.
    I consider myself lucky to exist in the same time as you.
    Thank you for the enlightenment you brought to this world 🌹🌹.
    Much love
    Ed

  • @professorsunilkumar7502
    @professorsunilkumar7502 9 месяцев назад +4

    Dr harari you are great historian in present cenario its my great pleasure to listen you .

  • @Trinitypater
    @Trinitypater 9 месяцев назад +3

    Such a wise and humble man! A rare species. ❤

  • @danielhzn
    @danielhzn 9 месяцев назад +1

    Really bad journalism. The host did not listen actively and only cared about viral topics. Host sound was not muted, we can hear the host shuffling his papers during the whole interview. The AI question at the end is biased, they should have show the initial prompt. Only watched for Mr Harari's knowledge and generositiy.

  • @briankraemer8139
    @briankraemer8139 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love this man, Yuval Noah Harari. He is here for just such a time as this. So is Ari Melber. Thank you, Ari, for allowing your hair to silver like mine, one day at a time. It would have been tempting to blacken it for the rest of your life. Whoever asked AI to write a brief letter to Yuval Noah Harari must certainly have been asked to express itself with a "sassy tone" and probably other specifics were also given it.

  • @ThomasHecquet
    @ThomasHecquet 9 месяцев назад +2

    I did my best but I could never disagree with Yuval so far...

  • @mlight7402
    @mlight7402 9 месяцев назад +7

    Thought-provoking interview. Thank you.

  • @gabygonzalez7245
    @gabygonzalez7245 9 месяцев назад +10

    Great interview👍thank you very much!!

  • @sohum9501
    @sohum9501 9 месяцев назад +3

    Wonderful interview. Please invite people like this more often. Let’s talk about uplifting ideas, factual, scientific historical patterns.
    I’m so tired of listening to anything that refers to Trump. He is again getting a lot of free publicity.
    Talk more about what is working. Let’s focus on positive efforts. Biden policy that is helping people & changing lives for the better!

  • @darrellrohling555
    @darrellrohling555 9 месяцев назад +19

    More people need to hear this sort of exchange, nurturing CRITICAL THINKING skills!

    • @amandamcleam9031
      @amandamcleam9031 8 месяцев назад

      Your wrong, this man is a buddy to Klaus Schwabb. He is pro an authoritarian world government. Watch him at WEF gatherings

  • @nilent
    @nilent 9 месяцев назад +1

    Melber has over an hour but stll clumsily interrupts as if he has 3 minutes and a "hard break" coming up for a commercial...still, good stuff. Thanks!

  • @lesbrattain6864
    @lesbrattain6864 7 месяцев назад

    WOW Harari is so articulate and bright. I love watching him. Why can't we come up with some leaders like him?

  • @PrimitiveInTheExtreme
    @PrimitiveInTheExtreme 9 месяцев назад +24

    Great conversation, great questions and great answers.

  • @denisemorton56
    @denisemorton56 9 месяцев назад +2

    So good I watched it twice.

    • @isetloves
      @isetloves 8 месяцев назад

      Me too! Using for a research paper

  • @elizabethk3238
    @elizabethk3238 9 месяцев назад +3

    This Host is trying to match intellect with Harari. FAILING spectacularly! 😅

  • @Jahguaar
    @Jahguaar 6 месяцев назад

    Knowledge supports growth... Very informative.

  • @richardmulcahy1535
    @richardmulcahy1535 9 месяцев назад +11

    Two diamond_hard intellects delivering conversation at the highest level of broadcast media, such a service to their listeners. I could not see a single logical nor linguistic flaw. And so I continue to enjoy the entire clip. My sincere thanks to you both.

    • @marcusbrockman3133
      @marcusbrockman3133 9 месяцев назад

      You mean 2 fascist Zionist Jews who, if aren't found guilty of genocide, will be guilty of ethnic cleansing

    • @katherenewedic8076
      @katherenewedic8076 9 месяцев назад

      All except that Ari deferes to the miss use of words keeping in support of the twisting of words to create and maintain ignorance amongst the populace

  • @DDBb993
    @DDBb993 7 месяцев назад

    Two of my favorite people. Thank you. I learn so much from Yuval.

  • @黒人-m3w
    @黒人-m3w 9 месяцев назад +2

    Hirari talks in circular logic and evades questions that are put to him.
    So instead of answering simple questions in layman's terms he speaks " scientific " jibberish and Hopes he puts one over on you .
    Harari is a monster.

  • @sanniran
    @sanniran 9 месяцев назад +2

    Very nice and interesting. ❤

  • @josephgonzalez8972
    @josephgonzalez8972 9 месяцев назад +1

    We must endeavor to become our best version of ourselves.

  • @ajadrew
    @ajadrew 9 месяцев назад +10

    Good conversation 👍

  • @deanster300
    @deanster300 9 месяцев назад +2

    A true genius

  • @philostreet781
    @philostreet781 9 месяцев назад +2

    To be a contributing member of an organization, one cannot be too critical of themselves or others. Be a builder, not a critic ❤ 36:39

  • @monowarparvezbabu
    @monowarparvezbabu 9 месяцев назад +2

    Yuval who successfully confused me, after reading some of his books became one of his blind admirers, I considered him a humanitarian.
    It made me totally speechless when I found him as a great supporter of ongoing GAZA genocides.

    • @williammkydde
      @williammkydde 8 месяцев назад

      Since you are much more simple than him, you must live with the possibility that you can't understand him. He may have more facets than your available sensors can grasp. Not that he's a god either, and I am not his fan.

  • @liorabinyamin1229
    @liorabinyamin1229 9 месяцев назад +2

    Great interview; much cleaver questions & and much inspiring answers

  • @LuLU-ep7wf
    @LuLU-ep7wf 9 месяцев назад +3

    love all his books!!!

  • @PeaceAkaShanti
    @PeaceAkaShanti 9 месяцев назад +6

    Excellent interview. Loved the questions Ari. Yuval looks at issue from various angles. His comprehensive analysis is always top notch.

  • @allenmoses110
    @allenmoses110 9 месяцев назад +4

    A postmodern view of religion acknowledges that religion has nothing to do with scientific fact. It is rather a cumulative cultural product of people. But people are the receivers of a religious tradition that gives us cultural, moral, and ethical orientation in our lives. The problems with religion in our contemporary society happen when people equate religion in the same level with science and fact. Religion then becomes fundamentalist, literal, and highly destructive to its followers and others.

  • @italythroughmyeyes
    @italythroughmyeyes 9 месяцев назад +2

    What a good interview Ari!

  • @helge666
    @helge666 9 месяцев назад +10

    That was an excellent interview! Thank you!

  • @Chris.starfleet
    @Chris.starfleet 9 месяцев назад +1

    Mr Harari??? You should call him professor or doctor at least.

  • @princeamu
    @princeamu 9 месяцев назад +4

    This guy is poetic. His opening answer about history is spot on

  • @MonkeysTimes2
    @MonkeysTimes2 9 месяцев назад +5

    A brilliant man not crushed by the weight of notoriety and who is capable of translating scientific endeavors into a language of high emotional content and value in order to reach people less scientifically inclined. And he has a good sense of humor which Ari was pleased to bring into the light.

  • @alvaroromeropimienta2613
    @alvaroromeropimienta2613 9 месяцев назад +2

    thanks !!

  • @Humannondancer
    @Humannondancer 9 месяцев назад +2

    Being accused of being a Yuval Noah Harari type, I thought meant just being jewish related.
    This interview brings a whole new meaning to me of Yuval, of which I had no idea.
    I should have said yes, absolutely yes.

    • @TheAureliac
      @TheAureliac 8 месяцев назад +1

      And thanks for the compliment.

  • @ronaldmacpherson3345
    @ronaldmacpherson3345 9 месяцев назад +2

    It’s still a lie to tell a child he is going to hell if he didn’t pray to this fictional god.

  • @paolazo-l4790
    @paolazo-l4790 9 месяцев назад +5

    That was very interesting, as usual with Harari. Thank you

  • @lilywhitesnowtiger
    @lilywhitesnowtiger 9 месяцев назад +4

    it will be interesting to get your take on South Africa's genocide case against Israel.

  • @mirjami4090
    @mirjami4090 8 месяцев назад +1

    🕊️🌿✝️🕊️🌿 Thank You Jesus for Your judgements.✝️

  • @kimb5629
    @kimb5629 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm gonna order all of four of those books.

  • @davidvita
    @davidvita 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is a different interview! Great job. Thanks

  • @elodieleaf
    @elodieleaf 9 месяцев назад +1

    Just beautiful!

  • @mazetoeden9334
    @mazetoeden9334 9 месяцев назад +2

    this was an awesome and fun interview. great interviewer and great interviewee

  • @goutacarter2207
    @goutacarter2207 Месяц назад

    Harari is brilliant.

  • @binya3
    @binya3 6 месяцев назад

    Yuval is a great voice for the sanity of humanity.

  • @MarthaCalbimonte
    @MarthaCalbimonte 9 месяцев назад +2

    Good job interviewing Yuval, Ari! Thanks!

  • @mauarduz
    @mauarduz 9 месяцев назад +1

    Bad results from a serious guy trying to be interviewed by a guy who thinks he is and wants to be funny, but doesn’t make it 👎

  • @ABAKABAK1
    @ABAKABAK1 9 месяцев назад +1

    "God is people" - told me my Catholic priest some 60 years ago. He was so right.

  • @PatrickFerryCoach
    @PatrickFerryCoach 9 месяцев назад +3

    Great interview and LOVE the kids book!