I mean weren't they more dirt roads to prove they were backwards... nerf herders that were slightly inbred? But roads existed in the prequels even on coruscant if we look below the main level. Even at the bottom of the main levels that seperate from the under city you find a road and those willing to sell death sticks. I've ofter felt the roads were meant for pedestrian travel as well as having a geo beacon for hovercraft so they could get off the hovercraft if needed. Sort of a pedestrian path+.
@@GenerationTech and the damned trandoshan neighbor keeps trying to cure their leather in the backyard stinking up the whole neighborhood! Lol. Star Wars: HOA would be a fun rif on the franchise. Lol.
There have always been roads in SW. Some vehicles still use tires like the Clone Juggernaut. Others like the AAT and the IFT-X hover over the ground, but don't fly. So there would obviously still be roads for such things.
Brother. The roads are in the sky. They’re called skylanes. Look at coruscant. The turbotank was used off-road, and the hovering vehicles are used off-road. The reason George didn’t put roads in Star Wars is because it would make his galaxy far far away look like planet earth, and destroy the immersion
@@Camo_Live Then what do you call those things in Theed on Naboo? You know, where a bunch of people and vehicles traveled through and have been there since TPM?
@@DavidRichardson153 Those are streets. I can’t believe you have to have someone explain to you the difference between an open street and a paved road.
though speeders are ubiquitous, walking vehicles and even animal mounts are quite common, and wheeled vehicles arent unheard of, so just as roads existed before cars, theyll exist after them too
Well, as the numerous clips show Star Wars has always had "roads" from the dusty urban streets of Tatooine to the paved expressways of Lothal. I really like the look and vibe of the kid's planet, it's like a 22nd Century vision of Cascadia. You know, if I was Boba Fett I build a tracked repulsor lift guideway system to connect Mos Espa and Mos Eisley with frequeny passenger shuttles and freight cars, merge the two cities into one big one for significant economic and social benefits.
Even with hovertech, I argue that roads, paved roads at that, are still needed. Granted, they could be simplified to a degree, but paved roads still have benefits that hovercraft would benefit from. First and arguably foremost is navigation redundancy. Sure, navigation systems are going to be predominantly used, but there will always be instances where, for whatever reason, it just does not work. Roads are the low-tech backup to GPS and other navigation, and even here on Earth, they can - and sometimes do - serve as navigation aids for pilots, even as emergency landing strips. Then, if for whatever reason they cannot resume flying or bring portable navigation systems with, a road serves as a direct link to the nearest center of civilization (yes, there is still the matter of distance, but the connect makes covering it easier). That makes survival much easier, because contrary to what so many "survivalists" will tell you, people have historically been notoriously bad at self-reliance. Even the settlers of the Wild West still depended on the nearest town, which were usually connected to a railroad, if they needed anything, especially something critical, and people like Henry David Thoreau were only able to do what they did because the "wilderness" they chose to reside in were already pacified to some degree by civilization (and because someone will inevitably bring this up, no, I do not consider what was done to the Native Americans as "pacified by civilization"). Next up would be safety. Roads would have much fewer natural obstacles that could get in the way, thus typically increasing your odds of survival if something goes wrong. Of course, this is also dependent on traffic, particularly the volume of it at the time, but as long as you can still stop, not having something(s) to crash into helps. This also extends to any debris that could end up on the road, usually being on the smaller and lighter side. Most do not realize how much environmental protection is actually needed for vehicles, and for hovertech, it will be even more so. This does not necessarily mean that such protection could be reduced, but it does mean that it will likely last longer, maybe even much more so. This is a major unseen benefit to the average citizen. Of course, roads still come with costs. There is still surveying, planning, paving, and maintaining them as well as any official infrastructure on them (lights, signage, etc.), and there will always be times when they need to be repaired for whatever reason. It is perfectly understandable why roads, particularly paved ones, do not appear much outside of the more urban areas. That said, it actually demonstrates how much roads are needed, even if they are not paved, let alone have any other infrastructure with them. Roads are integral to any civilization. The forms they take can vary in all kinds of ways and extents, but a reliable path of navigation, one that can be traversed with as little tech as possible, cannot be overlooked or left out.
By design you can't criticize the starwars politics without criticizing real world politics and you can criticize storm trooper armor without criticizing Clone Trooper armor and you can't criticize dolphins without criticizing humanity
Roads are important, they show Vehicle Rights of Way (even without ground contact), they demarcate between plots of Private Property and Public Property, they allow for Pedestrian access, they give Public (and Commercial) Infrastructure access (Rubbish pick up, other waste management, delivery of Energy of the non Plumbed/Mains verity ect.) and the list goes on.
I honestly don’t care about the “It’s a big Galaxy, it’s not impossible for there to be at least ONE planet with Suburbs.” Argument. I just don’t like familiar current-day Earth stuff being in Star Wars.
Roads aren't the problem, everything looking like Gen X'er suburban nostalgia is, though. Wild that they're going for that silliness, completely creatively bankrupt.
Honestly a big part of those suburban roads might just be the aesthetics. If you have a community which (for legal reasons) relies on close to the ground speeders, technically a marked off dirt path is good enough. But then every time the speeders go around, they're kicking around a storm of dust. To a small extent that will still happen with a road since dirt will end up on it, but it would take a heavily disused road for that to be a real issue since all the dust will get regularly blown off. There's also the question of how much maintenance will be actually necessary; modern roads take a constant beating, but near to the ground repulsor craft will have minimal effects. Combine that with a more weather resistant space material, and the roads end up being a largely one time expense that a local higher end community might decide is worth it. Repairs and small maintenance will probably still be necessary, but a lot of that could probably be handled by a couple maintenance droids. I think a big part of the complaints is not just that they're roads but that they're our roads. They just really look like modern asphalt roads which kind of seems out of place. Something with either a more SF feel or a more fantasy feel would have felt better in star wars; a roman road would have leaned into the idea that its largely for aesthetics, a plastic/metal looking road would have served the functional purpose while being easier to keep clean, etc. But since they chose to lean into the pseudo idealized nostalgia, it just ends up feeling really out of place for star wars.
Roads have a major secondary function. These structures serve as a functional cap to prevent private construction over infrastructure that serves the community like communication, power, sewer, stormwater removal, and sometimes heating. Skeleton Crew has something that resembles the suburbs which is (in this day and age) a planned community. Planned communities sometimes have governing bodies, namely a home owners association. So there are rules for admittance and codes of conduct. Also, not everyone can afford an estate or a private planet. The exclusive single family home is the next best affordable thing.
Will watch this video later. I just wanted to say this. When I glanced at the thumbnail, I didn't know if I was looking at a screenshot of skeleton crew or the starting area of fallout 4 lol.
I took basic crash course on computers and their not data points connecting to other data points. Transistors are pathways to lights pixels and gears that are independently timed. So why don't we make data points connecting to other data points. Artificial brains
OKAY I'll give it to em. Luke started on a farm we all fell in love with the adventure and world he was introduced to but he did start out on just a farm
Roads do kinda make sense. For speeders or ships that only float/hover and not fly. Like on a planet not seen before. Obviously they can fly over any train but aesthetically they look nice and can serve other purposes. I swear certain scenes in the clone wars sad some sort of highways/roads they were fighting on
I mean... even with the vast majority of vehicles using hover technology, it's still a good idea to have designated areas to 'drive' them so you're not just going wherever, potentially endangering civilians or yourself.
I remember being in my bus in gradeschool +10 years ago waiting for someone to get on the bus while we took up the basicly one lane cause cars were parked on the side of the road and this dude behind us just couldn't wait and drove through 3 yards full of grass and rocks to go around and I just remember sitting there jaw dropped lol
In universe roads provide an optimized surface to travel on, allowing for reduced risk of accidents and consequently higher allowable speed. In grasslands or over sand dunes there‘s always the risk of hitting a rock, especially if you’re in a hurry.
I I completely and totally agree with what you're saying about cars and the concept of freedom. It's funny, because I am one of those eco-friendly hippie types, and I do think we need to move away from fossil fuels, but at the same time, I have a little bit of that Gear Head in me too, and I don't want to give up my gas powered car, off-road vehicles, or the freedom they provide. I hear a lot of people trying to push things in the direction of efficient mass transit, and while I logically agree with some of the points they are trying to make, I just don't ever see America going for that.
Off-topic observation: roads may be pretty universal, but the way we perceive them is not. The Irish language uses a word for road that is related to the word for cattle - a road is where you drive your cattle to take them somewhere. But the word for street comes from the English, there was no equivalent concept, because the culture didn't name the empty spaces between the structures they built. I believe Japan still does it this way today. Not quite sure what this has to do with Star Wars, except that we're talking about alien cultures and how they do things differently from what we assume is right. Next question: do SW cities have US-style grid layouts for their streets, or are they more organic? In Europe, cities generally predate motor vehicles so road layouts are not optimised for traffic. Given the alleged age of the SW galactic technological culture, surely the cities would have been built around transport networks, US-style? So why do we see so many settings where the ground vehicles don't really fit?
Imagine the neighbors? I want a Simpsons or Family guy for Star Wars. Imagine the sitcom moments: The Wookie and Mon Calamari get into a heated argument over whether the lawn mower is a worthy replacement for an outdated hyperdrive. The Jawa accidentally sells the Wookie’s prized lightsaber grill tongs. Chaos ensues. The Mon Calamari plans an elaborate water feature for his lawn, only for it to flood the Jawa's sand garden, who retaliates by taking apart his sprinkler system.
The Star Wars Galaxy is huge. A suburban style planet is inevitable with the millions of worlds within the New Republic. Roads and bridges exist in Star Wars already. Just watch the Clone Wars episodes with.the Battle of Christophsis and Muunilist. Bridges and roadways all over eventhough most vehicles were repulsor lift tech
People forget there are around 2 trillion observable Galaxies in the one Universe we know. So when people go to different Galaxies in the Star Wars Universe it doesn't surprise me there are earthly looking roads in at least one of them. I wish people would stop trying to make Star Wars about themselves and their insignificant life. MTFBWY.
Surprised in your discussion of tracked transit you never mentioned the LA trolley tracks that were ripped up at the behest of big auto to sell more cars.
I'm tbh in favor of public transportation that goes everywhere and rides so frequently that I don't have to check a schedule. And a great thing that wouldn't be necessary but I certainly would love to is accessibility for bikes... Like the bicycle is such a comfortable vehicle for traveling smaller distances, it would be nice if there are just entire racks for you to park your bike on trams and such. The Netherlands was really heading the right way but our train company has been screwing up big time. Like trains are getting seriously expensive and chaotic that more and more people would rather spend €2000 to get a drivers license than travel with the train eventhough our train network is really good. We were about to expand out throughout Europe but the German government screwed up with their railways. And on top of all those screwups our train company decided it was smart to respond to it's lack of workforce by firing half of the workers they actually had left.
Well, I guess depending on the level of development of society. I am just happy that this means my personal LEGO City is more grounded in the SW reality than my own fiction.
There's a deeper philosophical discussion here in regards to civilisation, politics and social structure and it all goes back to the Romans. The idea of a 'road' represents stability, unifying ethics, economic productivity, good political structure, civil services and engineering challenges. If you track the progress of civilisation, you'll see the evolution of simple heuristic ideas into complex systems that we are so familiar with today. The fact that the Romans had to have so many systems in place to reach the inevitable decision to say "we need goods, services, people and military assets to move efficiently across the empire, how do we do this?" and they ended up with roads as the answer; is a true testament to the human mind. This is just a small aside to that larger discussion, but, I'll end it here with saying that; bricks, screws and roads can exist and will exist far into any future since they are fundamental building blocks to a civilisation even if their form may change with time.
Not even the Far Far Away Galaxy is far away enough to escape the clutches of Big Insurance. The Crimson Permanent Assurance and Republic Planetary Protection Agency vie for dominance of Coruscant. Which means you can also expect robo-holo calls about your vehicle's extended warranty.
Honestly, I've found it a bit odd that people are freaking out about there being roads in Skeleton Crew, especially given that (and even you showcased in various clips in the video) roads have kinda already been established in Star Wars. Maybe not as obvious or readily apparent as the suburban roads. You have the road ways in Naboo, granted with the Trade Feds occupation we didn't get to see any vehicles traveling through them much, but they are still obviously roads. The Han Solo movie featured roads around the beginning, granted Han didn't follow them to well during his high speed getaway. There were even roads in Andor, granted dirt roads, but could still see vehicles traveling along them. Same with the cities on Tatooine. Really about the only time you don't really see any roads or road adjacent pathways, is when they are traveling around outside of towns or cities.
I don't know about this new show nor am I interested really, but I would think it would be odd for there to be no roads in Star Wars. Even if roads are little more than marked pathways and not really the constructions we have like highways, there's no reason there would not be roads.
The next video you should make is “why are there bricks and screws in Star Wars now?” Not that that has anything specific to do with anything you know I think it would just make for an interesting video if you know what I mean…😏
Are you being serious? Humans have used paved roads for 4000 years. It's more silly to think an advanced civilisation wouldn't use them than would. How would these places move things from one place to another? Or do you think they'd invent flight before tarmac?
@ Star Wars isn’t earth. That’s why they don’t have paved roads. It’s that simple. George didn’t add them, because that’s what earth looks like. Yes, if they had runways for Boeings in Star Wars, that would look ridiculous, and it would deserve all of the backlash it got.
@@Camo_Live there's an EU map of mos eisley which is the only city shown in the first star wars movie. Some of the street names literally have the word "road" in them. What does that have to do with Disney?
It's possible to have a world identical to Earth in any universe but it's highly unlikely and creatively bankrupt since nothing in Star Wars would indicate such a thing existed.
@@jeddafakee91thats irrelevant to my comment but that transition happened millennia ago so there's no reason for it to exist in a modern city that probably existed for leas than century. Pay attention, kid.
@@cmcp975 isn't it inherently bankrupt to insert a modern setting into a fantasy or Sci-fi world? They could do literally anything and decided to mimic reality instead. That's the definition of the absence of creativity.
It started with bricks and screws, it became “actually, Star Wars looks like life on earth”. Can’t trust Disney with shit. Blame the shills for not being harder on Disney for paying a guy who hates Star Wars to make a Star Wars show.
@ Nope, not one singular clay brick in the entirety of George Lucas Star Wars, believe it or not. He managed to make Star Wars seem alien… you know… because he’s actually creatively talented…
I'm going to be honest, this is the first I've heard of this show and this issue, regardless here's my take: The Roads are... *fine,* they could've been made more visually distinct from IRL roads, but roads existing is fine. Suburbs, on the other hand, don't make sense at all, the highly advanced SW galaxy should be very aware of the problems they bring (long travel times, social isolation, inefficient infrastructure, etc...). The only way they might make sense is if a lot of people have a lot of money, and a special interest group lobbies for these sorts of communities. Someone may come up with an adequate explanation, but I doubt it'll come from Disney; they wanted American Suburbs in Star Wars, now they expect us to make it make sense. It's just lazy, really, I wish I was surprised.
I'm a home owner, no HOA, no high property taxes... I feel weird about your statement. Am I supposed to complain about paying for civilization? 😅 I'm an 80s/90s kid, I recognize my car gave me freedom, but I embrace a society that moves more toward public transportation. Everything changes and resisting that means championing stagnation, which is never good.
Maybe the Droid drivers are more for the safety of the passengers. If there were a medical emergency with no Droid, the system would just keep driving. I mean, I guess we could hope kids would hit some kind of emergency button...
Still don't think full paved roads make sense unless you have non-hover vehicles. You'd think it would just be some rails to clearly guide vehicles, if not for the vehicles to latch onto like trollies. Even if it wasn't in part to limit people's freedom of movement, you can just have a button to attach and detach form those rails for offroad.
Driving a car gives you individual freedom, but I saw a lot of accidents and crashes on the german autobahn and after some idiots took the fast lane with about 200 km/h right next to me. I really realised, that this kind of moving around is just dumb and very inefficient. I am from a more rural part of Germany, so the public transportation system is crab so I depend on my car. But most of the time the freedom I gain comes with the huge cost of madness and so many people die at very young age, because they think they could drive and then end up on a tree. And most of the time in the cities there are so many cars that you cant drive anyway. Electric cars wont make a big diffrence, yes they might get better safety systems, but in our dense populated world it is very inefficient to move thousands of people around using singular steel capsules for each individual and most of the time this thing is just standing around, using expensive space and cost money for nothing. I really enjoy driving sometimes but cars are very outdated in there way of functionality. I really think, that public transport will play a far more dominant role in future because especially with trains you can move a lots of people around with just one vehicle and without high traffic you will also be faster. Roads are also a big issue in terms of heat-absorption. Climate change will force us to reduce concrete and asphalt structures on a minimum. Im not an utopist , such a transformation will be very difficult because we love our cars and we become very emotional if they get banned or restricted in some ways. But on the long term it will be necessary. Some German cities like Stuttgart are crab to drive, but when I look to the US and see the huge highways in L.A. , well this is pure madness, there must be an alternative.
The Senate is a bunch of idiots. It real is but Plinket was talking about the starwar senate with was point of the starwars series to compare to real politics
What if the roads need less maintenance due to the speeders not stressing them with their weight? Also, how is this the way I find out about the shows release
For fully automated cars to work, there has to be only fully automated cars. Selfdriving will not be allowrd. It just brings to much risk and variance. The moment you let humans drive themself, the fully automated car or better its software gets needs to get way more and way to complex.
Am i someone who generally just doesn't care? Any actual civilization roads are always needed to make traveling more streamline. Not everything needs to have skylanes if their not metropolis like the cursoant and not everything else needs to be aavages living in huts
Lothal literally had highways on fields of grass. Dex’s Diner was a roadside stop!
Grocery stores in starwars make more sense then all those out door markets
Yeah but deep fried ewok isn't usually sold in chain stores. Gotta hit those open air markets on the lower levels.
Maybe most planets are big on supporting their local farmers. So farmers markets and night markets and flea markets are big in the Star Wars universe
Are you retarted
I think it would depend on the planet
I like to think that outdoor markets are more of an outer rim thing.
There technically always was. There were roads on Tatooine and flight lanes on Corruscent.
I mean weren't they more dirt roads to prove they were backwards... nerf herders that were slightly inbred?
But roads existed in the prequels even on coruscant if we look below the main level.
Even at the bottom of the main levels that seperate from the under city you find a road and those willing to sell death sticks.
I've ofter felt the roads were meant for pedestrian travel as well as having a geo beacon for hovercraft so they could get off the hovercraft if needed. Sort of a pedestrian path+.
Good shoutout
This reminds me when Star Wars Theory asked where those screws and bricks came from in Andor.
Except star wars theory bitches and moans about everything 😂😂
Wahhhh no bricks in star wars wahhhhhh
@@1Loftwing1 Star Wars Theory is just bitching about everything nowadays. Bro's so cringe.
Star Wars theory just cries about everything cause it makes him money to fund his trash fan films
@@kdusel1991he makes money by being an ass so why not keep doing jt
I love the idea of a Star Wars HOA.
you got a bunch skakoans wanting more methane in the local atmosphere
They should retcon everything and make it that The Empire actually evolved out of an HOA and Palpatine was the apprentice of its Karen leader.
@@Kelnx I love that idea so much! 😂😂
Thanks, I fucking hate it.
@@GenerationTech and the damned trandoshan neighbor keeps trying to cure their leather in the backyard stinking up the whole neighborhood! Lol.
Star Wars: HOA would be a fun rif on the franchise. Lol.
There have always been roads in SW. Some vehicles still use tires like the Clone Juggernaut. Others like the AAT and the IFT-X hover over the ground, but don't fly. So there would obviously still be roads for such things.
Brother. The roads are in the sky. They’re called skylanes. Look at coruscant.
The turbotank was used off-road, and the hovering vehicles are used off-road. The reason George didn’t put roads in Star Wars is because it would make his galaxy far far away look like planet earth, and destroy the immersion
This isn't the MCU which can afford to create entire movies using CGI and bluescreen.
@@Camo_Live Then what do you call those things in Theed on Naboo? You know, where a bunch of people and vehicles traveled through and have been there since TPM?
@@Camo_Live Theed has roads. Utapau has roads. There are planets in Star Wars with roads.
@@DavidRichardson153 Those are streets. I can’t believe you have to have someone explain to you the difference between an open street and a paved road.
though speeders are ubiquitous, walking vehicles and even animal mounts are quite common, and wheeled vehicles arent unheard of, so just as roads existed before cars, theyll exist after them too
Well, as the numerous clips show Star Wars has always had "roads" from the dusty urban streets of Tatooine to the paved expressways of Lothal. I really like the look and vibe of the kid's planet, it's like a 22nd Century vision of Cascadia. You know, if I was Boba Fett I build a tracked repulsor lift guideway system to connect Mos Espa and Mos Eisley with frequeny passenger shuttles and freight cars, merge the two cities into one big one for significant economic and social benefits.
Where we're going we don't need roads!
Even with hovertech, I argue that roads, paved roads at that, are still needed. Granted, they could be simplified to a degree, but paved roads still have benefits that hovercraft would benefit from.
First and arguably foremost is navigation redundancy. Sure, navigation systems are going to be predominantly used, but there will always be instances where, for whatever reason, it just does not work. Roads are the low-tech backup to GPS and other navigation, and even here on Earth, they can - and sometimes do - serve as navigation aids for pilots, even as emergency landing strips. Then, if for whatever reason they cannot resume flying or bring portable navigation systems with, a road serves as a direct link to the nearest center of civilization (yes, there is still the matter of distance, but the connect makes covering it easier). That makes survival much easier, because contrary to what so many "survivalists" will tell you, people have historically been notoriously bad at self-reliance. Even the settlers of the Wild West still depended on the nearest town, which were usually connected to a railroad, if they needed anything, especially something critical, and people like Henry David Thoreau were only able to do what they did because the "wilderness" they chose to reside in were already pacified to some degree by civilization (and because someone will inevitably bring this up, no, I do not consider what was done to the Native Americans as "pacified by civilization").
Next up would be safety. Roads would have much fewer natural obstacles that could get in the way, thus typically increasing your odds of survival if something goes wrong. Of course, this is also dependent on traffic, particularly the volume of it at the time, but as long as you can still stop, not having something(s) to crash into helps.
This also extends to any debris that could end up on the road, usually being on the smaller and lighter side. Most do not realize how much environmental protection is actually needed for vehicles, and for hovertech, it will be even more so. This does not necessarily mean that such protection could be reduced, but it does mean that it will likely last longer, maybe even much more so. This is a major unseen benefit to the average citizen.
Of course, roads still come with costs. There is still surveying, planning, paving, and maintaining them as well as any official infrastructure on them (lights, signage, etc.), and there will always be times when they need to be repaired for whatever reason. It is perfectly understandable why roads, particularly paved ones, do not appear much outside of the more urban areas. That said, it actually demonstrates how much roads are needed, even if they are not paved, let alone have any other infrastructure with them.
Roads are integral to any civilization. The forms they take can vary in all kinds of ways and extents, but a reliable path of navigation, one that can be traversed with as little tech as possible, cannot be overlooked or left out.
"They have roads now?!"
"They have roads now!"
By design you can't criticize the starwars politics without criticizing real world politics and you can criticize storm trooper armor without criticizing Clone Trooper armor and you can't criticize dolphins without criticizing humanity
what
Problobly because of that one 78 year old grampa who still doesn't believe in repulsor lifts and flying
Roads are important, they show Vehicle Rights of Way (even without ground contact), they demarcate between plots of Private Property and Public Property, they allow for Pedestrian access, they give Public (and Commercial) Infrastructure access (Rubbish pick up, other waste management, delivery of Energy of the non Plumbed/Mains verity ect.) and the list goes on.
Interesting. Weren’t there roads in A New Hope in Mos Eisley?
yup also on corellia, coruscant and everywhere else
Dirt roads created by people driving over them aren't the same as paved roads with sidewalks
Because this the suburbs of Los Angeles, 2124
@ I have to see this show entirely before I make a decision on it but I’m pretty optimistic.
@@BaithNa as mentions by Gen Tech, Corellia.
I honestly don’t care about the “It’s a big Galaxy, it’s not impossible for there to be at least ONE planet with Suburbs.” Argument.
I just don’t like familiar current-day Earth stuff being in Star Wars.
Star Wars creators give fans images and fans (and guidebook writers) have to make those images make sense.
This Back to the Future scene was spot on, especially since Christopher Lloyd had an episodic role in The Mandalorian
Oh wait, that was him! I knew I knew him from somewhere!
Had em in Coruscant and Tatooine mate 😊
Roads aren't the problem, everything looking like Gen X'er suburban nostalgia is, though.
Wild that they're going for that silliness, completely creatively bankrupt.
Honestly a big part of those suburban roads might just be the aesthetics. If you have a community which (for legal reasons) relies on close to the ground speeders, technically a marked off dirt path is good enough. But then every time the speeders go around, they're kicking around a storm of dust. To a small extent that will still happen with a road since dirt will end up on it, but it would take a heavily disused road for that to be a real issue since all the dust will get regularly blown off.
There's also the question of how much maintenance will be actually necessary; modern roads take a constant beating, but near to the ground repulsor craft will have minimal effects. Combine that with a more weather resistant space material, and the roads end up being a largely one time expense that a local higher end community might decide is worth it. Repairs and small maintenance will probably still be necessary, but a lot of that could probably be handled by a couple maintenance droids.
I think a big part of the complaints is not just that they're roads but that they're our roads. They just really look like modern asphalt roads which kind of seems out of place. Something with either a more SF feel or a more fantasy feel would have felt better in star wars; a roman road would have leaned into the idea that its largely for aesthetics, a plastic/metal looking road would have served the functional purpose while being easier to keep clean, etc. But since they chose to lean into the pseudo idealized nostalgia, it just ends up feeling really out of place for star wars.
Roads have a major secondary function. These structures serve as a functional cap to prevent private construction over infrastructure that serves the community like communication, power, sewer, stormwater removal, and sometimes heating. Skeleton Crew has something that resembles the suburbs which is (in this day and age) a planned community. Planned communities sometimes have governing bodies, namely a home owners association. So there are rules for admittance and codes of conduct. Also, not everyone can afford an estate or a private planet. The exclusive single family home is the next best affordable thing.
Will watch this video later. I just wanted to say this. When I glanced at the thumbnail, I didn't know if I was looking at a screenshot of skeleton crew or the starting area of fallout 4 lol.
straight 80's feel to this. i'm here for it.
I took basic crash course on computers and their not data points connecting to other data points. Transistors are pathways to lights pixels and gears that are independently timed.
So why don't we make data points connecting to other data points. Artificial brains
OKAY I'll give it to em. Luke started on a farm we all fell in love with the adventure and world he was introduced to but he did start out on just a farm
Roads do kinda make sense. For speeders or ships that only float/hover and not fly. Like on a planet not seen before.
Obviously they can fly over any train but aesthetically they look nice and can serve other purposes. I swear certain scenes in the clone wars sad some sort of highways/roads they were fighting on
I mean... even with the vast majority of vehicles using hover technology, it's still a good idea to have designated areas to 'drive' them so you're not just going wherever, potentially endangering civilians or yourself.
Alan out here asking the real questions!
Is every space series going to be related to starwars
I remember being in my bus in gradeschool +10 years ago waiting for someone to get on the bus while we took up the basicly one lane cause cars were parked on the side of the road and this dude behind us just couldn't wait and drove through 3 yards full of grass and rocks to go around and I just remember sitting there jaw dropped lol
This is definitely my new favorite GT thumbnail
In universe roads provide an optimized surface to travel on, allowing for reduced risk of accidents and consequently higher allowable speed. In grasslands or over sand dunes there‘s always the risk of hitting a rock, especially if you’re in a hurry.
Air pressure bumpers as your about to crash the are pressure between the edge of the vehicle and the building would build up and repell
I I completely and totally agree with what you're saying about cars and the concept of freedom. It's funny, because I am one of those eco-friendly hippie types, and I do think we need to move away from fossil fuels, but at the same time, I have a little bit of that Gear Head in me too, and I don't want to give up my gas powered car, off-road vehicles, or the freedom they provide. I hear a lot of people trying to push things in the direction of efficient mass transit, and while I logically agree with some of the points they are trying to make, I just don't ever see America going for that.
Off-topic observation: roads may be pretty universal, but the way we perceive them is not. The Irish language uses a word for road that is related to the word for cattle - a road is where you drive your cattle to take them somewhere. But the word for street comes from the English, there was no equivalent concept, because the culture didn't name the empty spaces between the structures they built. I believe Japan still does it this way today.
Not quite sure what this has to do with Star Wars, except that we're talking about alien cultures and how they do things differently from what we assume is right.
Next question: do SW cities have US-style grid layouts for their streets, or are they more organic? In Europe, cities generally predate motor vehicles so road layouts are not optimised for traffic. Given the alleged age of the SW galactic technological culture, surely the cities would have been built around transport networks, US-style? So why do we see so many settings where the ground vehicles don't really fit?
Wealthier low population planets would absolutely have suburbs and small cities.
The Rebels series was centered around a small city with paved roads.
Honestly
I never really questioned roads, especially in Solo
If this can revive my love for the amblin movies I grew up on in the 80s and 90s (my childhood), I'll be happy.
Imagine the neighbors? I want a Simpsons or Family guy for Star Wars. Imagine the sitcom moments: The Wookie and Mon Calamari get into a heated argument over whether the lawn mower is a worthy replacement for an outdated hyperdrive.
The Jawa accidentally sells the Wookie’s prized lightsaber grill tongs. Chaos ensues.
The Mon Calamari plans an elaborate water feature for his lawn, only for it to flood the Jawa's sand garden, who retaliates by taking apart his sprinkler system.
Wake up r3, new gen tech video dropped
0:58 Oof. I have both. It’s not very sigma
Thanks for the vid
I just noticed something the cars don’t hover like other vehicles in Star Wars they used a rail line look closely and you will see it on the road
I laughed out when he chucked his bike over the barrier 😅
The Star Wars Galaxy is huge. A suburban style planet is inevitable with the millions of worlds within the New Republic. Roads and bridges exist in Star Wars already. Just watch the Clone Wars episodes with.the Battle of Christophsis and Muunilist. Bridges and roadways all over eventhough most vehicles were repulsor lift tech
Listening to this while playing Star Trek Online... Sorry... :)
People forget there are around 2 trillion observable Galaxies in the one Universe we know. So when people go to different Galaxies in the Star Wars Universe it doesn't surprise me there are earthly looking roads in at least one of them. I wish people would stop trying to make Star Wars about themselves and their insignificant life. MTFBWY.
All of Star Wars occurs in a single galaxy though, including this show.
@@BaithNa Star Wars takes place in a Universe that has many galaxies within it.
Surprised in your discussion of tracked transit you never mentioned the LA trolley tracks that were ripped up at the behest of big auto to sell more cars.
We saw road in Corellia in Solo and a freeway on Lothal in Ashoka
We've seen Droid school teachers too, so a droid bus driver makes sense as someone has to supervise the kids.
Thanks Carl
They don't fly now?
They drive now
It gives off. Prodigy vibes
I'm tbh in favor of public transportation that goes everywhere and rides so frequently that I don't have to check a schedule. And a great thing that wouldn't be necessary but I certainly would love to is accessibility for bikes... Like the bicycle is such a comfortable vehicle for traveling smaller distances, it would be nice if there are just entire racks for you to park your bike on trams and such.
The Netherlands was really heading the right way but our train company has been screwing up big time. Like trains are getting seriously expensive and chaotic that more and more people would rather spend €2000 to get a drivers license than travel with the train eventhough our train network is really good. We were about to expand out throughout Europe but the German government screwed up with their railways.
And on top of all those screwups our train company decided it was smart to respond to it's lack of workforce by firing half of the workers they actually had left.
Well, I guess depending on the level of development of society. I am just happy that this means my personal LEGO City is more grounded in the SW reality than my own fiction.
There has been plenty to criticize Disney Star Wars over, but having a suburbia is not one of them.
There's a deeper philosophical discussion here in regards to civilisation, politics and social structure and it all goes back to the Romans. The idea of a 'road' represents stability, unifying ethics, economic productivity, good political structure, civil services and engineering challenges. If you track the progress of civilisation, you'll see the evolution of simple heuristic ideas into complex systems that we are so familiar with today. The fact that the Romans had to have so many systems in place to reach the inevitable decision to say "we need goods, services, people and military assets to move efficiently across the empire, how do we do this?" and they ended up with roads as the answer; is a true testament to the human mind. This is just a small aside to that larger discussion, but, I'll end it here with saying that; bricks, screws and roads can exist and will exist far into any future since they are fundamental building blocks to a civilisation even if their form may change with time.
Not even the Far Far Away Galaxy is far away enough to escape the clutches of Big Insurance. The Crimson Permanent Assurance and Republic Planetary Protection Agency vie for dominance of Coruscant. Which means you can also expect robo-holo calls about your vehicle's extended warranty.
We need more Star Wars strip malls. Somewhere I can get my candy death sticks.
Honestly, I've found it a bit odd that people are freaking out about there being roads in Skeleton Crew, especially given that (and even you showcased in various clips in the video) roads have kinda already been established in Star Wars. Maybe not as obvious or readily apparent as the suburban roads.
You have the road ways in Naboo, granted with the Trade Feds occupation we didn't get to see any vehicles traveling through them much, but they are still obviously roads.
The Han Solo movie featured roads around the beginning, granted Han didn't follow them to well during his high speed getaway.
There were even roads in Andor, granted dirt roads, but could still see vehicles traveling along them. Same with the cities on Tatooine.
Really about the only time you don't really see any roads or road adjacent pathways, is when they are traveling around outside of towns or cities.
I don't know about this new show nor am I interested really, but I would think it would be odd for there to be no roads in Star Wars. Even if roads are little more than marked pathways and not really the constructions we have like highways, there's no reason there would not be roads.
The next video you should make is “why are there bricks and screws in Star Wars now?”
Not that that has anything specific to do with anything you know I think it would just make for an interesting video if you know what I mean…😏
I suddenly want Allen to make react/commentary videos to Not Just Bikes videos.
Rebels also had roads. This is not new.
It started with bricks and screws… people laughed but it’s a slippery slope. Give Disney an inch, they’ll take a mile
Are you being serious? Humans have used paved roads for 4000 years. It's more silly to think an advanced civilisation wouldn't use them than would. How would these places move things from one place to another? Or do you think they'd invent flight before tarmac?
@ Star Wars isn’t earth. That’s why they don’t have paved roads. It’s that simple. George didn’t add them, because that’s what earth looks like. Yes, if they had runways for Boeings in Star Wars, that would look ridiculous, and it would deserve all of the backlash it got.
@@Camo_Live there's an EU map of mos eisley which is the only city shown in the first star wars movie. Some of the street names literally have the word "road" in them. What does that have to do with Disney?
Please tell me you are joking…
It's possible to have a world identical to Earth in any universe but it's highly unlikely and creatively bankrupt since nothing in Star Wars would indicate such a thing existed.
So people went from walking to flying hovering no transition?
@@jeddafakee91thats irrelevant to my comment but that transition happened millennia ago so there's no reason for it to exist in a modern city that probably existed for leas than century.
Pay attention, kid.
Star Tours has entered the chat
“Creatively bankrupt “ seems harsh before the show is out. It’s a good choice if it serves the story. We’ll see if you’re right. I hope you are🤞😬
@@cmcp975 isn't it inherently bankrupt to insert a modern setting into a fantasy or Sci-fi world? They could do literally anything and decided to mimic reality instead. That's the definition of the absence of creativity.
There have already been roads in Star Wars, like the highway on Lothal.
Bricks and screws and roads and cul-de-sacs
Star Wars Theory is pissing and crying right now.
It started with bricks and screws, it became “actually, Star Wars looks like life on earth”. Can’t trust Disney with shit.
Blame the shills for not being harder on Disney for paying a guy who hates Star Wars to make a Star Wars show.
@@Camo_Live there were bricks and roads in The Phantom Menace.
@ Nope, not one singular clay brick in the entirety of George Lucas Star Wars, believe it or not. He managed to make Star Wars seem alien… you know… because he’s actually creatively talented…
I'm going to be honest, this is the first I've heard of this show and this issue, regardless here's my take:
The Roads are... *fine,* they could've been made more visually distinct from IRL roads, but roads existing is fine. Suburbs, on the other hand, don't make sense at all, the highly advanced SW galaxy should be very aware of the problems they bring (long travel times, social isolation, inefficient infrastructure, etc...). The only way they might make sense is if a lot of people have a lot of money, and a special interest group lobbies for these sorts of communities. Someone may come up with an adequate explanation, but I doubt it'll come from Disney; they wanted American Suburbs in Star Wars, now they expect us to make it make sense. It's just lazy, really, I wish I was surprised.
Allen should direct the next star wars movie
'Cause Amblin, bud.
They have roads and suburbs now?
It’s easier and cheaper to film chase scenes in streets than in the air.😂
I'm a home owner, no HOA, no high property taxes... I feel weird about your statement. Am I supposed to complain about paying for civilization? 😅
I'm an 80s/90s kid, I recognize my car gave me freedom, but I embrace a society that moves more toward public transportation. Everything changes and resisting that means championing stagnation, which is never good.
They had roads on coruscant they were just so far down you couldnt see them.
Maybe the Droid drivers are more for the safety of the passengers. If there were a medical emergency with no Droid, the system would just keep driving. I mean, I guess we could hope kids would hit some kind of emergency button...
Still don't think full paved roads make sense unless you have non-hover vehicles. You'd think it would just be some rails to clearly guide vehicles, if not for the vehicles to latch onto like trollies. Even if it wasn't in part to limit people's freedom of movement, you can just have a button to attach and detach form those rails for offroad.
I’ve heard of the Hidden Path before, but I want to learn more. This was introduced in Obi-wan series. Can make a video about it please?
Driving a car gives you individual freedom, but I saw a lot of accidents and crashes on the german autobahn and after some idiots took the fast lane with about 200 km/h right next to me. I really realised, that this kind of moving around is just dumb and very inefficient. I am from a more rural part of Germany, so the public transportation system is crab so I depend on my car. But most of the time the freedom I gain comes with the huge cost of madness and so many people die at very young age, because they think they could drive and then end up on a tree. And most of the time in the cities there are so many cars that you cant drive anyway.
Electric cars wont make a big diffrence, yes they might get better safety systems, but in our dense populated world it is very inefficient to move thousands of people around using singular steel capsules for each individual and most of the time this thing is just standing around, using expensive space and cost money for nothing. I really enjoy driving sometimes but cars are very outdated in there way of functionality.
I really think, that public transport will play a far more dominant role in future because especially with trains you can move a lots of people around with just one vehicle and without high traffic you will also be faster. Roads are also a big issue in terms of heat-absorption. Climate change will force us to reduce concrete and asphalt structures on a minimum.
Im not an utopist , such a transformation will be very difficult because we love our cars and we become very emotional if they get banned or restricted in some ways. But on the long term it will be necessary. Some German cities like Stuttgart are crab to drive, but when I look to the US and see the huge highways in L.A. , well this is pure madness, there must be an alternative.
Roads that have tram likes to make it look like they are floating
The Senate is a bunch of idiots. It real is but Plinket was talking about the starwar senate with was point of the starwars series to compare to real politics
What if the roads need less maintenance due to the speeders not stressing them with their weight?
Also, how is this the way I find out about the shows release
Roads in star wars dosent bother me at all it makes it relatable
Asoka had roads too
Roads for hover vehicles with *checks notes* rails embedded in the surface for some reason
To be fair roads are pretty amazing.
Cant wait for not just bikes to talk about the evils of starwars suburbia.
For fully automated cars to work, there has to be only fully automated cars. Selfdriving will not be allowrd. It just brings to much risk and variance. The moment you let humans drive themself, the fully automated car or better its software gets needs to get way more and way to complex.
What about the highway that Sabine rode on in the start off Ahsoka?
there are literally roads everywhere in the swtor mmo.
will u play outlaws and make videos on it? there are a lot of ships that appear there and more
Star Wars rebels and the bad batch shown roads on some episodes
Lothel has roads in Star Wars rebels
OOHHH MMMYYY GOOODD!!!!!
STARWARSSSSS ROADS !!!!!!!!!
ROAD IN STARWARS WOW!!!
(Red Letter media man cant leave my head help)
I'm in it for the Lore
Kids show or not, I just hope there's a story and not IRL politics
Cause it looks dope
question is how much is a house in that neigbhorhood
Weren't there roads on cristophis? (or however your spell it)
The reason is to keep the world identifiable.
Unless a vic can actually fly roads will exist as without them people would get ran over, or atleast injured
Am i someone who generally just doesn't care?
Any actual civilization roads are always needed to make traveling more streamline.
Not everything needs to have skylanes if their not metropolis like the cursoant and not everything else needs to be aavages living in huts