Had a lot of people apparently very curious about this. Hope that's all settled then. Song used: Knight's Academy - The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword OST
I had over a dozen people message me about this, so I felt like I may as well go ahead and do a video on it. Here's a link to the original post: www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/we09ja/how_to_get_to_the_bottom_of_the_erdtree_and/ And here's a link to just their video showing the route on RUclips: ruclips.net/video/rKaafEiu3vo/видео.html
“Moving on, if you look down this pit, you’ll see a glowing light, that’s our one and only elden beast! Despite local residents claiming it to be the the “vassal beast of the greater will” or “living incarnation of order” they’re just actually very rare animals that have evolved from fish”
Ah, the music really gave this a sense of this being a fun little discover. Like oh look! It's our friend the Elden Beast! :D He's just vibing down there.
Hey, I don’t know if you noticed this, but in the mines, if you take the miners crystals and come back, they’ll actually be resting instead of mining. Just thought it was a neat little detail.
"little practical use" Zullie just explained mechanically how Speedrunners are able to skip the Radagon and Elden Beast fights and casually says its useless. Shit like this is why I love her content.
even then it's still a fascinating look at how the game is designed. the bosses don't just randomly spawn. they are entirely separate entities already loaded and just get moved for the fight.
It's actually funny how the answer is actually perfectly fitting and not mysterious at all...but you'd never know without being able to go down there and look.
There is something unsettling about the aquatic features on both Elden Beast and Godwyn. They did a great job making the Elden Beast feel like a majestic creature and a parasite at the same time.
@@massimilianoreali4398 Feature wise, the elongated head and appendages, root like tail and eyeless head all have a parasitical look to them to me. Plus the Erdtree itself and along with it, the Elden Beast, seem to be grafted to preexisting roots, taking over.
This is brilliant and it explains why the map shows your dropped runes as being "in" the Erdtree if you drop them in the Elden Beast fight. They are there, just very far down. The fight is ostensibly in there, so this perpetuates the illusion. Small thing, but I like it.
The lore implications of Hoarah Loux waiting beneath the capital are staggering. It turns out he's just a jealous ex who spends his time stalking and spying on the girl who dumped him. Astounding. Fromsoft does it again!
i know this is a joke but this is literally what he does in the game lol. he doesnt show up until after you kill his son and burn the erdtree and morgott probably loves his dad so he likely let him chill in leyndell and sulk around the erdtree until he could go in
Horah Loux most likely arrived last due to him being the last to awaken. Given that he was once Elden Lord grace may of only revived him in desperation if it was unsure if we would finish. Most likely he awakened between us going to the mountain top of the giants and arrived just before the ashh fell.
Iirc, when doing zip speedruns, you load the arena by zipping in the Godfrey arena and then zip super far to unload the Elden best and killing it while Godfrey starts phase 2, so it would make sense that the best was close. However, when looking at the map, you seem far northwest, witch seems weird if you are bellow the tree.
I believe it unloads the FLOOR underneath the Elden Beast causing it to fall to death, if it just unloaded Elden Beast then it wouldn't give a win message/condition. I think.
@@videos2896 Yes, the game unloads an area when the player moves too far away from it, and the zip yeets the player far enough that the level around the Elden Beast gets unloaded. And coincidentally the Elden Beast then falls a bit faster to its death than the player so it counts as kill.
This is super cool! It makes me wonder if anyone's looked at where the two underground arenas for the Regal Ancestors are positionally. You can see where you are on the X/Y axis on the map, but not whether those arenas are above or below in the larger Siofra cavern structure.
Ok I just checked again and the Regal Ancestor cave is also below his own mausoleum. I think last time I didn't find it because I was going out of bounds from lower Siofra and maybe the regal cave only loads if you're in upper Siofra/Nokron.
It's a very mid boss after the strong one-two combo of Godfrey and Radagon. I actually think a 2 phase fight against Radagon & Marika would've been a better final boss, but the Elden Beast tells a better story with regards to how it's a manifestation of the Greater Will and the Outer Gods and all that stuff. But yes, the cosmic space man-whale aesthetic is very cool.
I really love that the Elden Beast boss arena looks so much like Ash Lake, which is my favorite area in the original Dark Souls. Felt like such a cool throwback and almost seems like everything has come full circle. Or ring, if you will.
Disagree on the “no applications” at the end, since the fact that EB exists while in Capital of Ash is what allows him to be killed with a Mega Zip in the any% run.
I think the end bit is more Zullie saying even if you can survive jumping there (mayhap another fall death cheese, we've had them before) it's not going to be a no-zip route because of the wall.
yknow i couldnt help but think while watchin this, that its interesting the elden beasts boss room seems to symbolize multiple erdtrees that seem full size as if maybe it has influence over more than just the lands between. interesting theories to be made here
The thing is: Having the Elden Beast already loaded into the area of the Erdtree in the Ashen Capital is the *only* reason the speedruns of Elden Ring using zips (Any% unrestricted speedruns) can finish so fast. The current record is 3:58 min (ish) by the speedruner Seeker Start the Game Zip to Stormveil Zip to Raya Lucaria Zip to Bellfries Teleport to Farum Azula Reset to Farum Azula Spawn (place you go after Fire gaint) Two zips to malekith Kill malekith with 4/5 zips Spawn in ashen capital Zip to the top of the gate behind the Elden Throne Zip out of the Map far north of the Haligtree Reappear in front of Hoarah Loux (he will kill you, but the Elden Beast dies at the same time) Appear at Marikas Body The End
to "zip" means that a player will travel a very long distance in one frame. As it happens in one frame, you need frame-perfect inputs to do it It's basicly teleporting. The interesting thing is, that if an enemy is loaded and you use a zip to move so far away from them into an empty part of the map, the buildings and other structure will not bei loaded anymore, but the last loaded enemies are still there. They are then falling to their death. This is how malekith and the Elden Beast are killed in the Speed Run. Distortion2 made good video about it and Seeker is the current record holder. Don't know If Zullie will make a vid about it, but it would be nice to see the enemies falling into nothing as the structure disappears
I feel 100% the same, there's no way in heck I could do what Zullie does for a living. Honestly I feel like I'm investigating some place and might come across a body lmao
I know what you mean, but maybe that's why I also found out of bounds exploration so exciting. It was a common passtime when I was a kid to go out of bounds on Halo maps, it always felt like I was doing something I wasn't supposed to, and would freak me out when I found weird glitches while out of bounds. I think knowing more about how games work has sadly killed a lot of the spookiness and excitement in going out of bounds but it's still interesting to me
it makes me inexplicably really happy that the Elden Beast arena is actually located below the Erdtree. something about environmental continuity maybe? I dunno, I just like it
So, is the ashen capital an entirely different area or does it replace the regular capital? Does this mean Elden beast is always there or only when the capital transforms?
I think I saw something alluding to it replacing but I could be misremembering. I don't remember which video either, only that the capital was tangentially related. So if anyone knows for sure, I would also like to know.
I think they're entirely different areas, with one on top of the other. If you use a hack to enable all sites of grace at all times, you'll see that Leyndell and ashen Leyndell have separate sites and that a few almost perfectly overlap, and that you can teleport between them at any time
Am I the only one who gets freaked out by video games? When they break in some way, that puts you in a void. I always think there might be some random, unbelievable, immensely colossal monster lurking out there that you can't see the cause of atmospheric effects that are waiting to eat you... Like you go out far enough and then just "JAWS"... just jaws... heads too big to see entirely... all you get is teeth in front of a massive open maw...
Anyone remember dark souls one after going through 2 illusion walls and going down a long tree it brings you to the bottom most level of the world? It’s all water and super massive trees just like the elden ring arena.
@@davidhong1934 to me it always looks like a representation of life in general. The tail like a tree, wings, fins, a long weird tube head that for some reason reminds me of an amoeba and the five fingered hand wich represents intelligent life.
The way this game stores bosses is very interesting, it kinda gives you an insight into how the game is built if you know the language it was coded in. Keep up the awesome work Zullie
0:14 Yooo I did that too! I just tried to get to spots you couldn't get to before with this glitch. I managed to get onto the roof in Farum Azula that's under the bridge that goes to Maliketh. The one where the elevator is located that brings you to the bridge grace before Maliketh. (I hope you guys get what I mean) Strangely the roof is like water, if you walk around it makes the same sound as when you walk in water. And if you go too close to the bridge you will die because of the death barrier under it that kills you when you fall down. It's so much fun to use and actually not that hard once you get the hang of it. Took me about 45 minutes to get it consistantly.
Could we at some point get a nice, up-close look at the Elden Beast? Like, taking off whatever effects it may or may not have, looking at its base model, seeing it perfectly still so we can take in the details of it without having to dodge attacks or chase it down?
Do it! I started a play through with a Castlevania theme, using only weapons which approximate ones found in the Castlevania series. My primary weapon is the Urumi whip and I also rely on holy water pots, throwing knives and the discus of light spell. It has really refreshed the game for me. Can't just rely on habits or OP stuff. Find a cool or unusual build and stick with it. It's a ton of fun.
This actually explains some of the speedrunning vids in the early days as I wondered how the Elden Beast was dying after loading the location back in. I assume that because of some loading time issue or the like the boss must be phasing through the ground or falling somehow and dying on impact. Don't fully understand what's happening but it makes more sense than before.
Speaking of weird shapes underneath important areas, there is a really strange shape under farum azula that I usually only see by falling to my death. It almost looks like a circular mirror with lines radiating from it. I'm really not sure what its supposed to be, and I can't find any info about it anywhere online. Was wondering if that could possibly be cleared up?
I'm new to the souls community through Elden Ring, and I have to say what you do is absolutely amazing! I saw the other video referenced and agreed you'd be a source to find the truth...never thought it'd be within 72 hours! Also, "little practical use?" This teaches a lot to fans as well as possible game designers about the how things can be achieved. But it also serves (to me) as great dedication to lore. The fact that the arena could be anywhere but they still put it at the base of the erdtree seems very intentional, and awesome.
I don't think there was any lore reason to putting it there, likely just a technical one so there would never be any issues when loading the second half of the final boss, much like how Hoarah Loux is already preloaded for the godwyn fight. That way, simply loading the area and going through the loading screen would leave everything prepared to minimize issues.
If there's one thing I know about speedrunning, there *is* a practical use for this. We just don't know it yet. If we find a way to survive the fall, and if we find a way to get over/through the barrier, you hypothetically could skip straight to the elden beast.
no so like in previous souls games, its a pretty common feature of theirs to store the second phase of the boss somewhere deep down to save process or storage space? and whenever you fight godfrey you are actually damaging hoarah loux AS well down there, they share the same health bar, so when it triggers the model below gets loaded. also if anyone is curious i also found 3 malenias deep down the haligtree after no clipping
@@yashgatade8201 I wonder why it's three, after all it's just two phases. Or does the game internally count the beginning as another phase where Malenia doesn't yet do her combo? Anyway her fight is a bit weird because in the first phase she survives ripostes with 0 health (or very close to zero) and can only be sent to the second phase by hitting her normally.
Those out of bounds tricks using that weapon art are awesome, I remember being blown away the first time I saw the OOB route to Placidusax. Maybe do a video on some of the other skips using that weapon art? (And I forget if you've covered the weird weapon art swaps like airwalking, probably have but if not those are pretty interesting.)
Id love to see how deep the different underground areas are. Kinda like how you had a size comparison for giant bosses; how deep are the 3 fingers, how deep is Godwy, how deep is the Lake of Rot; abd whats the lowest point on the map. A suggestion if you are taking them 😬 Amazing work as always, Zullie
I suppose that begs the question where the Stone Platform is relative to its entrance from Godfrey’s arena. Is it down there, or in a separate area entirely like the Roundtable Hold?
If I recall correctly, the stone platform is actually inside of the Erdtree, since that's where the marking for dropped runes appears when you die to Radagon.
I can hear this episode playing out like a children's educational Nat Geo show. (in David Attenborough voice) "It seems like we need to take a closer look to see what's down there. Of course we run into our friend Hoarah Loux, waiting for his turn in the boss arena, but he's not why we are down here. See that distant pattern of lights? Let's say hello shall we. Why it's the Elden Beast! Parts of him must not have been visible from up above!."
Just wanted to say thanks for all the great content Zullie. These videos are so intriguing, and I can't even imagine the work that must go into making even 1 of them. You rock, thanks again!
Only after watching the original video and then this did the memory of reaching The Old One slam back into my head. That endless-feeling plummeting fall down to Somewhere Else.
That's really cool, kinda makes it seem like when it's hand comes up that it could even be pushing the platform down even though you don't see that area until it roars
Something I’ve though about is how the elden beast arena reminds me of an area from the movie “nausicaa of the valley of the wind” and the area UNDER the toxic jungle where the trees have purified the water, and while I also kinda believe that the other tree trunks we see in this arena may be allusions to Other elden beasts on other planets???? It’s still an interesting visual similarity
I saw the original video about the mysterious shape down there and I figured it was the elden beast because of where the boss room was located but my brother thought I was just trying to sound smart. Guess we were both right😎😎 \[T]/
Like many others says, this raises a new (potential video) question: where are fisically located the "out of the world" boss arenas? Like Placidusax, Rennala 2º fase, etc
Very curious... As I played through the game first time around, I fully expected the erdtree to rest in a giant hole that we'd have to traverse down and to the bottom of where an ancient city might lie. It was quite a shock to me when while traveling through the capital, I come right up to the tree. Partially disappointing but alas. I wish the track to the base of the tree was more exciting
I had over a dozen people message me about this, so I felt like I may as well go ahead and do a video on it.
Here's a link to the original post:
www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/we09ja/how_to_get_to_the_bottom_of_the_erdtree_and/
And here's a link to just their video showing the route on RUclips:
ruclips.net/video/rKaafEiu3vo/видео.html
Drip-Goku with the jacket is down there. ;)
I love your content, and that curious / inquisitive score too!
You should do a video showcasing whats underneath all boss arenas that have anything underneath them
Can you kill hora loux down there?
@@joko2882 the other video cited shows that he's not active and can't be damaged. But they hadn't tried multiplayer.
"And on your right, you'll see Hoarah Loux taking a coffee break, but let's move on with the tour and continue to the main attraction"
Horah Loux, just trying to enjoy his coffee: "Eh?"
“Moving on, if you look down this pit, you’ll see a glowing light, that’s our one and only elden beast! Despite local residents claiming it to be the the “vassal beast of the greater will” or “living incarnation of order” they’re just actually very rare animals that have evolved from fish”
@@Sky_darts "Ordinarily, folks, Tarnished are not allowed past the barrier to see it. And of course, today will be no exception."
😂
Hoarah Loux never left, he was just playing the longest game of hide and seek ever.
Man's pulled a freiza
Hoarah just casually chilling beneath the Erdtree, then a random witch comes sprinting by
The Long March was just him sent off to get milk.
@@GoldLight73 casually tips his crown to her and returns to holding his threatening pose, waiting for someone to enter his arena 3.7 miles above him
1st place, horah loux, chieftain of the badlands.
2nd place. Madalin mccan- THE ALLLLLL KNOWINGGG
"there's something under the erdtree" is such a terrifying sentence
Same, when I saw the title i thought there was gonna be a giant tentacle monster or something
@@GayForklift I mean, that's literally just Godwyn, LOL
Funnily enough, it's exactly what should be there
@@Psianth And that is. Death incarnate, princeful by nature only by sea.
@@GayForklift Well. That’s kind of exactly what the elden beast is just…cosmic lmao
I still love the idea of Zullie being this random dimension-hopping witch that shows up everywhere like G-Man
Like patches but less nefarious
like a fandom skeleton (i dont have examples of note]
edit: the cat from coraline
Rise and shine, mr tarnished... Wake up and smell the erdleafs
The skyward sword music really lends credence to the idea that Zullie works for some mysterious boundary break diety
This kinda makes me curious about where Placidusax's arena sits, since on the map you're just out in the void after spawning
I remember someone saying that the arena you fight in is literally within the big storm in Farum Azula.
It’s actually in the tornado. Really cool how they accurately placed it
It's not only within the Tornado, but it's also beneath every other structure in Farum Azula.
@@Welcometotheslam5424 Isn't above every structure?
It's above the storm
Ah, the music really gave this a sense of this being a fun little discover. Like oh look! It's our friend the Elden Beast! :D He's just vibing down there.
Yep. He needs to improve his tastw in musical atmosphere
@@theProClaimer completely disagree I love the music he uses for these
@@theProClaimer using music from zelda in his videos is a tradition now, and I like it :D
Zefrank1 :
Meet Suzie! Suzie is an elden beast...
That is how elden beasts, dooo...
Jerry, do we have another footage?
What if you🫵 wanted to fight elden beast🪱 but you saw him chillin😎in the void⚫️
Hey, I don’t know if you noticed this, but in the mines, if you take the miners crystals and come back, they’ll actually be resting instead of mining. Just thought it was a neat little detail.
Without killing them, right? And not resting at a grace site?
@@mb2001Without killing them I’m pretty sure.
It doesn't matter if you kill them or not, the main trigger for that is stealing their smithing stone (some might actually continue to dig nothing)
I noticed that when playing. I even thought it was sad for them to have lost their only purpose
There's something unintentionally hilarious about Hoarah Loux just patiently hanging out, but also in full rage mode.
"little practical use"
Zullie just explained mechanically how Speedrunners are able to skip the Radagon and Elden Beast fights and casually says its useless. Shit like this is why I love her content.
even then it's still a fascinating look at how the game is designed. the bosses don't just randomly spawn. they are entirely separate entities already loaded and just get moved for the fight.
"Little practical use" does describe about 90% of speed run strats to be fair lmao
It's actually funny how the answer is actually perfectly fitting and not mysterious at all...but you'd never know without being able to go down there and look.
Knowing where The Elden Beast's boss room is located on the map, I'm now curious as to where Rennala's second phase area is.
The moon
and Placudisax
@@sahinlandman4667 yes
@@sahinlandman4667 At the top of the tornado
@bruh meme I'm telling you right now, if you use the free cam and go to the top of the tornado, his arena is there. Idk what you're on about
There is something unsettling about the aquatic features on both Elden Beast and Godwyn. They did a great job making the Elden Beast feel like a majestic creature and a parasite at the same time.
Why a parasite?
@@massimilianoreali4398 Feature wise, the elongated head and appendages, root like tail and eyeless head all have a parasitical look to them to me. Plus the Erdtree itself and along with it, the Elden Beast, seem to be grafted to preexisting roots, taking over.
@@Psykout what are these preexisting roots that you are taking?
@@massimilianoreali4398 Down in Deeproot Depths, there are a lot of things down there that resemble tree grafting
This is brilliant and it explains why the map shows your dropped runes as being "in" the Erdtree if you drop them in the Elden Beast fight. They are there, just very far down. The fight is ostensibly in there, so this perpetuates the illusion. Small thing, but I like it.
The devs seem to like using a combination of storage tricks and specific placement to create those kinds of illusion.
The lore implications of Hoarah Loux waiting beneath the capital are staggering. It turns out he's just a jealous ex who spends his time stalking and spying on the girl who dumped him. Astounding. Fromsoft does it again!
Wasn't he nailed to a tree with speers in a trailer?
i know this is a joke but this is literally what he does in the game lol. he doesnt show up until after you kill his son and burn the erdtree and morgott probably loves his dad so he likely let him chill in leyndell and sulk around the erdtree until he could go in
@@MVCx_xB where do you read about the lore on Morgotts and Godfreys relationship?
Horah Loux most likely arrived last due to him being the last to awaken. Given that he was once Elden Lord grace may of only revived him in desperation if it was unsure if we would finish. Most likely he awakened between us going to the mountain top of the giants and arrived just before the ashh fell.
"this isn't particularly useful information" zulle, that is exactly why we're subbed. Never apologize for that. Thanks again for all you do!
Limit breakers will take your useless data
It was not an apology.
Iirc, when doing zip speedruns, you load the arena by zipping in the Godfrey arena and then zip super far to unload the Elden best and killing it while Godfrey starts phase 2, so it would make sense that the best was close.
However, when looking at the map, you seem far northwest, witch seems weird if you are bellow the tree.
Also, people are really dedicated to go out of bound
I believe it unloads the FLOOR underneath the Elden Beast causing it to fall to death, if it just unloaded Elden Beast then it wouldn't give a win message/condition. I think.
@@videos2896 Yes, the game unloads an area when the player moves too far away from it, and the zip yeets the player far enough that the level around the Elden Beast gets unloaded. And coincidentally the Elden Beast then falls a bit faster to its death than the player so it counts as kill.
Even gods were no match of gravity
@@karozoronah146 As a Dragon's Dogma pawn would put it (after taking fall damage), "'Tis a formidable foe!"
This is super cool! It makes me wonder if anyone's looked at where the two underground arenas for the Regal Ancestors are positionally. You can see where you are on the X/Y axis on the map, but not whether those arenas are above or below in the larger Siofra cavern structure.
The normal Ancestor cave is below his mausoleum, under the map, I went there with freecam. But I couldn't find the Regal Ancestor cave.
@@RashFever26 I wonder if the Regal Ancestor uses the same cave? They're not that far from each other so it would make sense
Ok I just checked again and the Regal Ancestor cave is also below his own mausoleum. I think last time I didn't find it because I was going out of bounds from lower Siofra and maybe the regal cave only loads if you're in upper Siofra/Nokron.
@@RashFever26 Thanks much for verifying!!
The Elden Beast, while being annoying, looks so damn cool
And has the best OST in the game imo
Hitting that thing feels good too
It looks like a human shark with a worm head.
It's a very mid boss after the strong one-two combo of Godfrey and Radagon.
I actually think a 2 phase fight against Radagon & Marika would've been a better final boss, but the Elden Beast tells a better story with regards to how it's a manifestation of the Greater Will and the Outer Gods and all that stuff.
But yes, the cosmic space man-whale aesthetic is very cool.
@@aCeruleanStateMusic Absolutely, I also think that Godskin Duo and Mohg’s themes slap
I really love that the Elden Beast boss arena looks so much like Ash Lake, which is my favorite area in the original Dark Souls. Felt like such a cool throwback and almost seems like everything has come full circle. Or ring, if you will.
Disagree on the “no applications” at the end, since the fact that EB exists while in Capital of Ash is what allows him to be killed with a Mega Zip in the any% run.
I think the end bit is more Zullie saying even if you can survive jumping there (mayhap another fall death cheese, we've had them before) it's not going to be a no-zip route because of the wall.
yknow i couldnt help but think while watchin this, that its interesting the elden beasts boss room seems to symbolize multiple erdtrees that seem full size
as if maybe it has influence over more than just the lands between. interesting theories to be made here
The thing is:
Having the Elden Beast already loaded into the area of the Erdtree in the Ashen Capital is the *only* reason the speedruns of Elden Ring using zips (Any% unrestricted speedruns) can finish so fast.
The current record is 3:58 min (ish) by the speedruner Seeker
Start the Game
Zip to Stormveil
Zip to Raya Lucaria
Zip to Bellfries
Teleport to Farum Azula
Reset to Farum Azula Spawn (place you go after Fire gaint)
Two zips to malekith
Kill malekith with 4/5 zips
Spawn in ashen capital
Zip to the top of the gate behind the Elden Throne
Zip out of the Map far north of the Haligtree
Reappear in front of Hoarah Loux (he will kill you, but the Elden Beast dies at the same time)
Appear at Marikas Body
The End
Wtf is a zip
to "zip" means that a player will travel a very long distance in one frame. As it happens in one frame, you need frame-perfect inputs to do it
It's basicly teleporting.
The interesting thing is, that if an enemy is loaded and you use a zip to move so far away from them into an empty part of the map, the buildings and other structure will not bei loaded anymore, but the last loaded enemies are still there. They are then falling to their death.
This is how malekith and the Elden Beast are killed in the Speed Run.
Distortion2 made good video about it and Seeker is the current record holder.
Don't know If Zullie will make a vid about it, but it would be nice to see the enemies falling into nothing as the structure disappears
@@mr_reynard2841 thanks!
*Maliketh
......all of this is insane
These things always scare me, for some reason. Going out of bounds in games and stuff, dunno why 😅
Thank god there's Zullie to show it to me
Same here... combination of issues with heights and a feeling like something that shouldn't be known might reach out at any moment and grab you
Same here, i find it both fascinating and spooky at the same time >>
I feel 100% the same, there's no way in heck I could do what Zullie does for a living. Honestly I feel like I'm investigating some place and might come across a body lmao
I know what you mean, but maybe that's why I also found out of bounds exploration so exciting. It was a common passtime when I was a kid to go out of bounds on Halo maps, it always felt like I was doing something I wasn't supposed to, and would freak me out when I found weird glitches while out of bounds.
I think knowing more about how games work has sadly killed a lot of the spookiness and excitement in going out of bounds but it's still interesting to me
I can't relate to you guys about being spooked by any of this, but I am intrigued to hear it.
Although, I guess it depends on what is out of bounds.
it makes me inexplicably really happy that the Elden Beast arena is actually located below the Erdtree. something about environmental continuity maybe? I dunno, I just like it
"you cant reach the elden beast cuz youre on the wrong side of the barrier"
**phases through it**
"There's unfortunately little practical use for it"
Speedrunners from 2034 beg to disagree.
i never would've guessed this was where the elden beast's arena was. Pretty cool overall!
Zullie: there's no practical use for this 🤷♂️
Old Man: 😍THERE'S NO PRACTICAL USE FOR THIS 😍
TRUE!
So, is the ashen capital an entirely different area or does it replace the regular capital? Does this mean Elden beast is always there or only when the capital transforms?
I think I saw something alluding to it replacing but I could be misremembering. I don't remember which video either, only that the capital was tangentially related.
So if anyone knows for sure, I would also like to know.
I think they're entirely different areas, with one on top of the other. If you use a hack to enable all sites of grace at all times, you'll see that Leyndell and ashen Leyndell have separate sites and that a few almost perfectly overlap, and that you can teleport between them at any time
@@sandrin0 Ah, the "almost overlapping" is probably what got me confused, ty
It is a new arena that replace the other. When you kill malekith you trigger a flag that changes all the world
Surely it has to replace it right? Since if you rode there on horse you wouldn't end up back at the old capital
I like the added detail with the Elden Beast's tail being a stem with roots.
These things remind me of the days people looked for the 17th Colossus and I love it so much.
That's actually nuts that the elden beast is physically there at the base of the tree. So cool
Am I the only one who gets freaked out by video games? When they break in some way, that puts you in a void. I always think there might be some random, unbelievable, immensely colossal monster lurking out there that you can't see the cause of atmospheric effects that are waiting to eat you... Like you go out far enough and then just "JAWS"... just jaws... heads too big to see entirely... all you get is teeth in front of a massive open maw...
Anyone remember dark souls one after going through 2 illusion walls and going down a long tree it brings you to the bottom most level of the world? It’s all water and super massive trees just like the elden ring arena.
Nice catch. I never noticed how similar this place is to Ash Lake.
ash lake with gold trees ✨
I really appreciate people like you delving into the game like this, Zullie.
I never noticed the Tree-like Roots on it's tail, that's so cool!
I've heard that the tail is the tree, and the body is the root system. Whatever the light on the head is supposed to be is anyone's guess.
@@davidhong1934 to me it always looks like a representation of life in general. The tail like a tree, wings, fins, a long weird tube head that for some reason reminds me of an amoeba and the five fingered hand wich represents intelligent life.
The way this game stores bosses is very interesting, it kinda gives you an insight into how the game is built if you know the language it was coded in. Keep up the awesome work Zullie
I've always been really curious where the roundtable hold (that we can teleport to) is located in the actual world.
iirc it's off Limgrave's west coast, far below the ocean.
You gotta admire how much devotion went into putting things where they LITERALLY are in the canon. FROM is great at fine details.
0:14 Yooo I did that too! I just tried to get to spots you couldn't get to before with this glitch.
I managed to get onto the roof in Farum Azula that's under the bridge that goes to Maliketh.
The one where the elevator is located that brings you to the bridge grace before Maliketh. (I hope you guys get what I mean)
Strangely the roof is like water, if you walk around it makes the same sound as when you walk in water.
And if you go too close to the bridge you will die because of the death barrier under it that kills you when you fall down.
It's so much fun to use and actually not that hard once you get the hang of it.
Took me about 45 minutes to get it consistantly.
I honestly cracked up at the sight of the Elden Beast
Th Elden beasts arena is so cool, it’s probably one of if not my favourite from any souls game.
Could we at some point get a nice, up-close look at the Elden Beast? Like, taking off whatever effects it may or may not have, looking at its base model, seeing it perfectly still so we can take in the details of it without having to dodge attacks or chase it down?
I love that hoarah loud and the elden beast are just casually chilling under the erdtree, waiting for the player to eventually show up
Lol, I literally went "Wait if Loux is here, is that Elden Beast?" before it was, indeed, Elden Beast
That's awesome that the elden beast is actually down there, i need to get back into elden ring
Do it! I started a play through with a Castlevania theme, using only weapons which approximate ones found in the Castlevania series.
My primary weapon is the Urumi whip and I also rely on holy water pots, throwing knives and the discus of light spell.
It has really refreshed the game for me. Can't just rely on habits or OP stuff.
Find a cool or unusual build and stick with it. It's a ton of fun.
Seeing speed runs I had a feeling I knew what was going to be down there, really cool that the entire arena is actually down there too!
This actually explains some of the speedrunning vids in the early days as I wondered how the Elden Beast was dying after loading the location back in. I assume that because of some loading time issue or the like the boss must be phasing through the ground or falling somehow and dying on impact. Don't fully understand what's happening but it makes more sense than before.
Speaking of weird shapes underneath important areas, there is a really strange shape under farum azula that I usually only see by falling to my death. It almost looks like a circular mirror with lines radiating from it. I'm really not sure what its supposed to be, and I can't find any info about it anywhere online. Was wondering if that could possibly be cleared up?
Placidusax' arena is circular, but I don't know whether it's already loaded in with the rest of the area.
placidusax’s arena
@@DoubleOhSevenRS placis arena is atop the giant tornado, i think zullie explored this as well
probably just a bug with the skybox
I'm new to the souls community through Elden Ring, and I have to say what you do is absolutely amazing! I saw the other video referenced and agreed you'd be a source to find the truth...never thought it'd be within 72 hours!
Also, "little practical use?" This teaches a lot to fans as well as possible game designers about the how things can be achieved. But it also serves (to me) as great dedication to lore. The fact that the arena could be anywhere but they still put it at the base of the erdtree seems very intentional, and awesome.
I don't think there was any lore reason to putting it there, likely just a technical one so there would never be any issues when loading the second half of the final boss, much like how Hoarah Loux is already preloaded for the godwyn fight. That way, simply loading the area and going through the loading screen would leave everything prepared to minimize issues.
Love you for your work, been lookin for something to watch and you came when I needed you the most
If there's one thing I know about speedrunning, there *is* a practical use for this. We just don't know it yet. If we find a way to survive the fall, and if we find a way to get over/through the barrier, you hypothetically could skip straight to the elden beast.
spoiler: it is already the case, with speedruns in 4-5 min
The new end screen looks sick!
And if you look way, way down below us, you may be able to spot a wild Elden Beast, grazing in its natural habitat.
Question: Because Hoarah Loux is down there, can you kill him and would it count as skipping the boss fight
No, the model doesn’t have collision detection until the game activates phase 2 of the boss fight and pulls the model
no so like in previous souls games, its a pretty common feature of theirs to store the second phase of the boss somewhere deep down to save process or storage space? and whenever you fight godfrey you are actually damaging hoarah loux AS well down there, they share the same health bar, so when it triggers the model below gets loaded. also if anyone is curious i also found 3 malenias deep down the haligtree after no clipping
@@yashgatade8201 what a terrifying moment that must have been
Not intentionally but if you zip really really far you can unload them and beat the game
@@yashgatade8201 I wonder why it's three, after all it's just two phases. Or does the game internally count the beginning as another phase where Malenia doesn't yet do her combo?
Anyway her fight is a bit weird because in the first phase she survives ripostes with 0 health (or very close to zero) and can only be sent to the second phase by hitting her normally.
Those out of bounds tricks using that weapon art are awesome, I remember being blown away the first time I saw the OOB route to Placidusax. Maybe do a video on some of the other skips using that weapon art? (And I forget if you've covered the weird weapon art swaps like airwalking, probably have but if not those are pretty interesting.)
"There''s something under the Erdtree."
"Hey VSacuse! Michael here! What ARE, Runes?"
Id love to see how deep the different underground areas are. Kinda like how you had a size comparison for giant bosses; how deep are the 3 fingers, how deep is Godwy, how deep is the Lake of Rot; abd whats the lowest point on the map.
A suggestion if you are taking them 😬
Amazing work as always, Zullie
I suppose that begs the question where the Stone Platform is relative to its entrance from Godfrey’s arena. Is it down there, or in a separate area entirely like the Roundtable Hold?
If I recall correctly, the stone platform is actually inside of the Erdtree, since that's where the marking for dropped runes appears when you die to Radagon.
@@kRx1203 also the site of grace you get after killing Elden Beast appears in the Erdtree as well
I love how they keep everything in the game where you'd expect to find it, even if it is never witnessed by the player
I can hear this episode playing out like a children's educational Nat Geo show. (in David Attenborough voice) "It seems like we need to take a closer look to see what's down there. Of course we run into our friend Hoarah Loux, waiting for his turn in the boss arena, but he's not why we are down here. See that distant pattern of lights? Let's say hello shall we. Why it's the Elden Beast! Parts of him must not have been visible from up above!."
The music in your videos relax me
Just wanted to say thanks for all the great content Zullie. These videos are so intriguing, and I can't even imagine the work that must go into making even 1 of them. You rock, thanks again!
Amazing work as always!
Woah, a new end-card!
I had to come up with a new one for the Sekiro video, so I figured I may as well keep using it from now on.
@@ZullietheWitch Yeah I thought that one was a one-off thing XD
That's a neat detail
Thank you for making these videos. Outside of them being genuinely interesting.. Your content has helped me through tough times.
I love secrets like this in these games. Reminds me of the dark souls 1 days
I didn’t realize it had a root-like tail! Precious Tuber God
Only after watching the original video and then this did the memory of reaching The Old One slam back into my head.
That endless-feeling plummeting fall down to Somewhere Else.
That's really cool, kinda makes it seem like when it's hand comes up that it could even be pushing the platform down even though you don't see that area until it roars
the fight literally takes place in the deepest roots of the Erdtree which i found Amazing
Something I’ve though about is how the elden beast arena reminds me of an area from the movie “nausicaa of the valley of the wind” and the area UNDER the toxic jungle where the trees have purified the water, and while I also kinda believe that the other tree trunks we see in this arena may be allusions to Other elden beasts on other planets???? It’s still an interesting visual similarity
Your videos are amazing, for those who love the franchise it is a full plate of novelty and exploration.
There's something under the Erdtree, oh turns out its a Barn Owl.
Makes perfect sense since lore-wise the Elden beat fight happens inside the erdtree
Hoarah Loux and Elden Beast be waiting like participants in the Royal Rumble.
Love the new outro look!
Zullie your content is always so Interesting! Thank you for these! Always excited to see a new Zullie vid!
Yay, Zullie's new video came out 17 seconds ago!
Zullie caught the Erdtree lackin
It’s like the hollow earth theory a massive open space filled with strange crazy stuff and giant monsters.
That's so freaking cool! All of the game's assets are just somewhere underground or at the edge of the game's like coordinates.
Saw someone from Reddit found this area a few day back (with guide how to get to). They thought the Eldin Beast was a rot roach cause of the fog.
Just wanna say your videos are so good and brighten up my day briefly :)
I'd never noticed the elden beast has a tail ending in what looks like roots
I saw the original video about the mysterious shape down there and I figured it was the elden beast because of where the boss room was located but my brother thought I was just trying to sound smart. Guess we were both right😎😎
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When I saw the title I was like why yes a whole zone with a rememberance boss fight in fact.
Thank you so much for doing this~! You're awesome!
That’s kind of cool and that makes the glowing lights the roots which I didn’t think of before
Solid work getting to the bottom of the mystery; you really got to the root. I'll see myself out now
You channel is amazing. Thank you!
Zullie using a katana is something I never thought I'd see
Hoarah Loux looks like he's on the last two minutes of his break at his retail job.
Now I wait as Hoarah Loux! Warrior!
Elden beast really do be straight vibing down there
I like how for whatever purpose, fromsoft game boss placement for multi stage boss fights is always diegetic.
Like many others says, this raises a new (potential video) question: where are fisically located the "out of the world" boss arenas? Like Placidusax, Rennala 2º fase, etc
Very curious... As I played through the game first time around, I fully expected the erdtree to rest in a giant hole that we'd have to traverse down and to the bottom of where an ancient city might lie. It was quite a shock to me when while traveling through the capital, I come right up to the tree. Partially disappointing but alas. I wish the track to the base of the tree was more exciting
We kinda got that with the Haligtree