Wing Chun Trapping Hands PT 1 - Adam Chan - Kung Fu Report
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In this youtube episode :
Some basic ideas on sticking and Wing Chun techniques of trapping hands , how its trained and how it fits in actual application. Yes it can be use in wing chun real fight.
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As a Marine Combat Veteran who knows real combat. This is gold! Great video!
You see similar movements and concepts in aikido, jujitsu and wrestling. It's always good to see the similarities across martial arts.
Real wing Chun! Trying to explain the ‘stick’ is nigh on impossible, and it takes a lot of experience and practice to get it right, especially against a trained fighter. But when you get the concept and can apply it without thinking, it’s amazing.
I know it's been said a million times before but seeing this simple concept executed in a live sparring match against a boxer, kickboxer or mma guy would be so powerful.
I always tell my students. Every mountain conquered merely gives you a better view of the next two mountains to climb. May you never run out of mountains. Thank you for the sharing your knowledge.
This is, very literally the way I have started living my life. My friends and I climbed a mountain near my town, and when we reached the top, there were two more big mountains that we could see, and we're going to climb those, too.
I keep saying that each training gives me a new bicycle to learn
Excellent video... I've learned more from this short video than I have watching countless of other Wing Chun videos.
thank you , glad it help you
Maybe you need to stop watching videos and go and learn from a real teacher
@@originalrbp2869 Bitch much?
@@winchesterlyon its good advice mate. You cant learn kung fu from watching videos of all these youtube sifus
@@originalrbp2869 No one said we're "learning Kung Fu" from videos. You created that in your head.. However, what was displayed in this video was good. There was absolutely no reason for your post. You created some strawman in your head and thought that you could get away with knocking it down. You didn't count on anyone calling out you strawman.
If you have any issue with the substance of what I posted, then your argument is welcome, but you obviously didn't. You figured you could insult me and the maker of the video with one strawman. Next time, please think before you say anything. And when you do, don't bitch to others like you're doing right now..
Very quick and smooth.
This guy has good understanding of neijiaquan. His "finding the ground" 2:28 resembles Yiquan's six directional force, and TJQ's peng jing.
His WC is definitely showing the ifluence of other internal martial arts. Will definitely be watching his channel closely.
I love to trap...love it..even though many say its no good i teach all my students many trapping techniques..helps with thier sensitivity..never chase hands..chase center..thank you for the vid sifu.
I've been watching a lot of your RUclips videos , you're students are lucky to have a teacher like you.
If I had enough resources. I would hire Adam Chan as my instructor life-time. He is truly amazing.
Thank you very much, Adam! Please make more great videos of this kind! Best regards!
Man he knows his shit. U duh wing chun god man
Very excellent instruction. Blown away.
Thanks 🙏🏻 truly inspiring Adam ,,,,,,, onwards with the journey
Great stuff Adam. Thanks. GB
Fantastic gem. I'm subscribed
Very cool stuff. Thank you Master Chan. Greatings from Germany.
Beautiful explanation. Thanks.
really appreciate your perspective and explanation this
Ive been taking wing chun for the last 7 months and i love it. Its changed my perspective on my martial arts training evolving it really. shorter more practical moments and split second adjustment. I noticed as i worked that it has a lot in common with other systems. The sensitivity bridge walking trapping and sinking energy sciences are so great it is just so cool. I had other training before hand and i still cross train and tournament is a little new to me however though i feel like im doing pretty good at the moment. wing chun seems to make everything come together. Honestly the quality is great Tbh studying has been easier to thanks to sifu adam chan and his teams videos. They are very informative and i dont struggle so much in my class as much. Im still on sil nim tau and wooden man. Thanks both you Sifu adam chan your videos and Sifu Rahim and my wing chun brothers i feel like im making good progress. With all respect adam chans youtube channel is probably the best source on youtube. Its not how good you are, it how good you can be. Hold what you love dear people because each day you can be a better you than yesterday.
Sifu Adam I must say that I am truly impressed with your presentations on Wing Chun
Thank you very much. It is important to note that the majority of stuff i am doing in this clip is not wing chun
why isnt this video more popular? rly good work explaining the details in such a short time
love this guy, when I teach driving i teach them what I see then what I do when I see.In this video he teaches touching and what he does when he feels. Great helped my understanding leap forward.the discourse on evolving an economy of motion was incredible.keep up the good work
Man this guy is pretty damn good!!..I'm sure to learn a lot of these technics took years of practice..Great job!
Thank you for sharing Sir. You are truly gifted who is able to fuse together other systems and to apply it in your own unique way. Some of which can only contribute and increase one's arsenal.
Very knowledgeable , Thank you !
Awesome work man! I believe martial arts are supposed to be explored by the individual and expressed based on your own realizations rather than just doing what others say is the way without ever questioning and further exploring. Props and respect to you sir!
Nice Adam, lots of good ideas. Folks would need to feel them before understanding, but the explanations give good insight.
I like the credit as well. Your inspirations during the explanations in the clip. Good respect, good sharing and moving. Thank you.
Nice! Very good to learn!
very in-depth
DAAAAAAMMMMM!!!!!! that is really AWSOME! great video 0 = dislikes simple, and pragmatic.
I like the last Q. well explained.
Clearly the most practical videos for fighting I have seen on RUclips. My question is always the same one. Where should a person over 60 start if he wants to learn internal and external or better still if he wants to maximize his chances of being able to defend himself without becoming a body builder(just an example). I used to be a fanatic squash player but I have not even gone to the gym for the past 8 years because of life problems. Now I want to get fit and learn a system. Yours is the most impressive and I trust you.
Great skill sifu!
Adam is truly an amazing guy!! Though locationis key when ur filming... perhaps a quieter area
Excellent Job .
Soft style principles throughout as you said Adam...'listen' and practise the whole...Chi Na/Kum Na can also help to alter/break their structure and the third step and the practise/knowledge of it. : )
Your "listening" skill is top knotch bro. You almost have a kuntao silat entry...which is very effective for real world application. Very nice.
Sticking is used after initial contact is made to determine the type and direction of the strike. From there, you have two options. The first is to push the hand past the center, causing an opening you can step into and exploit. Maintain contact for a split second while you enter in to maintain control of your opponent so he doesn't pull any surprises on you. The second one involves retracting the hand quickly. In this case, you can make and MAINTAIN CONTACT, following in his center of mass (as per Wong Shun Leung), then trap the arm and LEG (which practically immobilizes the upper body, stopping any pending attacks) and finish the fight quickly! Trapping ONLY works after initial contact is made. Wing chun is the only system that uses trapping in this manner. This is REAL trapping, not like the fake trapping of boxing or any boxing derivative! It's use is control of the structure and the pending destruction of said structure to open an opponent up for attack.
excellent... thank you
Awesome stuff as always! Greetings from wslvt :)
Really cool lesson
Amazing!
I'm a wing chun practitioner for 8 years and this technique or "feeling" of controlling the opponent's center of gravity takes years to practice. and most wing chun practitioner don't utilize it on sticky hands or sparring. great stuff.
Nice!
Damn man. You are lightning fucking fast. Excellent instruction. Please keep up the great work. I am extremely impressed. 👌👍
Nice and cool style
thanks for vid , can't learn enough defenses
Good video mate from melbourne australia
im still amazed
good stuff
Thanks theory is so important
This guys good.
Awesome just great sharing:)
thank you James ! :)
I've been using some of this for a long time and I had no idea, it just seemed natural. I finally understand Wing Chun. In karate you push the left hand jab to the left using the right hand, then you grab the attacker's hand using your left hand and you pull it towards your hip left side. You do this while stepping to the right, outside attacker's left foot and you destroy as many internal organs as you can using a right hand powerful punch. There are different approaches, in Daido Juku or Kudo they use a judo grab from the outside and control the attacker instead of punching. Using sticky hands is easier, safer and faster although the distance is different. No matter the technique or the style you have to feel your attacker's energy, that's the true lesson here,
your amazing
Brilliant
Hmmmmm........So: feel spine hurt person. I like it!
incredible
👌💐 super video
It is like the iron fist bro
my question though is, since that first contact is supposed to represent the first jab(how my instructor explains it), then isn't that initial trapping sequence still good since he's giving the momentum of the strike?
I honestly think this man could do some serious damage on the street!!!! Damn!!!!!
I would love to train with this guy.
Nice vedio
I've watched several of Adams videos and while I don't agree with everything he's pretty much right on the money here. One of the Wing Chun concepts is learning how to attack and defend without giving energy to your opponent and while trapping is effective and has its applications what very few people realize is that trapping is a beginner/basic technique. For the grapplers out there instead of spending all your time getting out of a choke it's better to learn to avoid it in the first place. A skilled Wing Chun practitioner will learn techniques and practice their sensitively so they don't have to trap.
+jr john
Although you're entitled to your opinion, I don't see why a person might disagree with Adam unless they are pretty arrogant or just lack the experience to understand because most of the people I see how have disagreed are people who typically didn't have the experience to back up their "theories". Or they haven't practiced enough to really bridge the gap of bewilderment.
similar concept to aikido
trapping hands is penetrating your creating openings by immobilizing the hands. it looks like your blending taichi elements into it. good stuff
@Gene. Without internal power, WC is only about limbs.
Wooo! Old video!!
Is this what the mean is "je lik" (Borrowing energy) ?
Jesse Glover lineage?
Nearly identical concept to Jook look mor sau tun toe and Bak Mei sok sau.
Adam could you explain a little more on feeling the ground? thnx...
For a detail look about feeling the ground , I recommend looking at my friends channel , Ian is a top Tai Chi teacher , he have many videos on this topic , hope it helps , he does a better job than me communicating this idea ruclips.net/user/taijiman7777
Adam Chan where do you teach so I could go to the cross time
vancouver bc canada
Seria bom traduzido aqui para o Brasil não entendo nada.
Right! If you "chase hands" then he would be able to fool you with a feint. This is one of the reasons why beginners and modified Wing Chun guys (EXCEPT, of course, Wong Shun Leung's system, the best modified system and the only one that actually works in the streets!), get fooled and hit by this! It also happens if you are unsure of your abilities, and your responses are not in muscle memory.
dammm
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No one does this and does that. Sure. But what Adam is showing is 'feel'. when in contact with your opponent, your muscle memory will do the rest. Many WC practitioners fail to understand the real concept behind WC. We do not anticipate, we move in and when there's contact, your hands will know what to do.
Right! The response should be AUTOMATIC and INSTANTANEOUS! You get that from doing each movement at LEAST 5000 times.
He truely appears to be worth called sifu :)
Where did you learn, Mr. Chan?
Couldn't you have found a noisier place to record the video, I nearly understood some of what was being said?
Sir please can you slow your moves so that we can learn easily
Ok, first of all, you are doing MODIFIED and that is why you have that problem. There is no step to the outside of the attacking arm or body rotation towards the attack. This makes it very difficult when fighting a boxer or someone who can box. You stay directly in front like that and you will be kissing the pavement! You are trying to go through the center, which is blocked. If you step to the outside of his attacking arm, rotating toward the attack and stepping in on a 45 degree angle, he would have no way to stop your attack since you are on his blindside and too far away for his counter. There is no way to get the other arm to stop the attack either since it is too far away. This leaves you safe and able to strike with impunity until the attacker is no longer a threat.
no touchy no sticky, if touchy, then sticky and don't chase arms. Got it!
Wow that high level wing Chun. Wow we have seen you do that move in your other videos and wondered what you were doing.
So you are taking some internal training and practice aaand practical needs into account thinking about concepts and attributes ... To be more effective and guide your training.
That's special.
So and?
You say you're not a fighter I'm interested though. Pretty interesting stuff.
I mean they block it because they feel everything ... But it's also because they know what you're about to do by feeling it and knowing the style.
A lot of people say something is no longer Wing Chun or aikido because it doesn't look like a form but I would disagree I think if something looks exactly like the form that's a good test to know that's it's not the martial art when the art is alive and conceptual.
If something is so adhering to The form and the styles of the past that it has no life outside of it is that still The form?
I mean I say no I say you misunderstood something if that's the way it's practiced it's practiced wrong.
I've trained in Wing Chun, what I found out in a real street fight against a decently skilled fighter is that majority of the time trapping does not work. It may work on a unskilled person who doesnt know how to fight at all but with a person that actually does know how to fight you will be hard pressed to perform those trapping techniques for the simple fact that most skilled people do not leave there hand out for you to grab/trap. I am not saying its impossible but the probability is very low. Also the less moves it takes to hit your opponent the better. Boxers only have one attack move which is to punch thats it. In trapping there are 2-3 moves which takes more time then just one punching. Even Bruce Lee didnt use much trapping in his later years as a straight line in the shortest fastest way to your target. All that guang sao to lop sao pak sao double pak is just too much moves almost no one is going to keep still for you to perform all those mulitiple moves in a real fight/match. If you watch some of those wing chun versus fight vids majority of the time the wing chun practitioner does not do any trapping he just attacks with the straight blast as his only attack method.
Not true. The problem is YOU don't practice this enough or have faith in your skills! He doesn't have to leave his hand out because it takes only a split second to make contact, feel his response, and reply. If you couple this with the proper footwork (the circle inside the triangle) along with the body rotation towards the attack, it becomes EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE!
A straight blast DOES NOT WORK against REAL FIGHTERS because all they need to do is step to the side of the outstretched hand and throw the hook, and you are dead!! This is why Traditional Wing Chun works so well! The angled step and body rotation towards the attack, pulls you away from the attack, and when contact is made (ALWAYS make contact FIRST to control the arm and determine the type and direction of the strike!), you can SAFELY and with IMPUNITY,enter in to counter. This is why ALL Wong Shun Leung students practice chi sau. It takes the place of the missing footwork.
@@mightymeatmonsta I was the best Wing Chun practitioner in my school. We sparred a lot and I was better then everyone and second to my sifu. My confidence level was off the charts as this was one of the few things I was really good at. I also learned some JKD. I met a new friend he was a beginner Golden Gloves boxer. First time we sparred he whooped my ass like nothing. None of that trapping works. Right after I took up boxing, it opened my eyes to real combat. Next I trained in Muay Thai from Master Kam it opened my eyes even more. Then I took BJJ. I also learned Kali from my filipino friend.
Go to a boxing gym and spar with a boxer that is in your weight class and see if what you say is extremely effective. You will find the truth for yourself.
Okay, let me ask you some questions. First, whose system are you learning? It OBVIOUSLY is NOT traditional, is it? How long have you been training? If you ARE the best in your class, next to your SIFU, then you should be able to handle him by using trapping. This should only last a split second to make contact, determine the type and direction of the attack, and use the circle inside the triangle footwork with the body rotation towards the attack. If not, your defense is useless!. Do you do extensive chi sau? This is also very important! Wing Chun responses work on being AUTOMATIC and INSTANTANEOUS! If your response isn't, then it won't work. I'm guessing, and I bet I'm right, you do crappy, incomplete modified Wing Chun, probably Moy Yat, or EVEN WORSE, THE CLOWN 🤡 PRINCE OF WING CHUN, LEUNG TING! If that's the case, there's your answer! I'll be waiting for your response and answers to these questions.
@@mightymeatmonsta Bro you dont have to try and convince me you just have to convince yourself as I already know the truth. Like I said go to a boxing gym find the best boxer there in your weight class and spar with him. You will find out the truth really quickly. This is not movie fantasy land in where Ip man aka Donnie Yen can match a heavy weight boxer aka Mike Tyson. LOL
This guy vs master wong. Who wins?
That's no good because even at 3:28 you are still in danger. See how your hand is NOT in the center and down? As soon as you rotate to move him forward, he can just take a step forward and throw the STRAIGHT right hand, which will GET IN because your right hand IS NOT IN THE CENTER (SHAME ON YOU!) and is down by your waist!! If you had stepped to the outside after making initial contact, did the body rotation and entered in, this situation would have never happened!
WHOA...everyone step back, we have a badass keyboard warrior here!
@@renegadefunkman No, stupid, just someone who knows something about traditional wing chun, which is the best system on the planet!
@@mightymeatmonsta "No stupid" - your badass points just dropped. Try again warrior !
@@renegadefunkman I don't have to. You're the dumb-ass here! You know NOTHING about real wing chun and even LESS about fighting!!
You have to remember, this guy is NOT SKILLED as a real fighter would be. So his response would not be the same as someone with REAL FIGHTING EXPERIENCE!
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Good advice.
This works because of the use of multiple vectors, which is just a fancy way of saying, multiple changes of angles that force the pressure on smaller joints and ligaments, making it easier to break his balance, or move the limb with very little force, causing an opening you can exploit. You can do this with his entire body by taking a 45 degree step to his side (preferably the blindside or side of his extended arm), which allows you to off balance him with very little force.
This is STUPID, why don;'t you push his hands one over the other???? So much explanations, so little demonstrations in real speed.
The only thing stupid was your ability to understand this video.