Spider-Man No Way Home Pitch Meeting
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- Опубликовано: 20 дек 2021
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Spider-Man is one of the most beloved characters of all time, and for Tom Holland’s third solo movie as the web slinger, Marvel seemingly wanted to do something really special (while also tapping into the hype around multiverses.
Spider-Man: No Way Home definitely raises some questions though. Like since when is Doctor Strange this reckless? How does the memory wipe spell work, exactly? Why is Electro even here? Is Uncle Ben going to die? Why is Ned suddenly magic, and why did he stop trying to make portals? Why isn’t James Franco in this?
To answer all these questions and more, step inside the Pitch Meeting that led to Spider-Man: No Way Home! It’ll be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
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The Pitch Meeting you've all been waiting for is finally here! 🎉 How did everyone like No Way Home?! Did it exceed your expectations?
Yes it did
It was an amazing movie!
Exceeding expectations is super easy barley and inconvenience
Marvel 2021 has been so epic, I’m excited for the next year or Marvel
Yes, very much so. The audience went nuts five times. I have never loved a movie screening so much.
"Cashing on nostalgia. But done right."
Better synopsis of No way home ever heard.
The Sonic Mania of movies.
Episode IX: "...why are all you looking at me for!?"
I seem to be the only one who thought that some fan service moments came off as a tad cheap
@@JTM610 not the only one. I really enjoyed the movie wearing my nostalgia glasses, but some moments it was clear the dialogue was intended to reach a callback rather than develop the plot further
@Robert Monroe Was it? I mean, other than Kingpin, nothing was done for nostalgia-bate. And he's definitely coming back
"they both played Spider-Man before"
"They did?"
I actually had this conversation with someone who I watched the film with
I can't imagine the impact this movie will have on people that didn't watch or don't remember the originals. It's like 80% of the excitement of this movie.
@@JBob08 They still liked it. They only watched the Tom Holland ones though; I was talking about the film the next day and apparently the whole time they had no idea who the other villains were and that Toby and Andrew were past Spider-Men and it shocked me to my core.
@@nerd_1356 I hope you unfriended them from life
@@chrisdouglas1158 @Jason_Todd135 The proper response is to invite them to a Spider-Marathon
@@Jupiterninja95 YES!
"That was kind of rude of you emotionally" was exactly how I felt in the theatre in that moment.
I've watched a bunch of reaction videos for this movie now. I'm constantly amused by how none of the reactors seem at all worried that Tobey might die. They just have that initial shock when it happens, but then that's it. lol
@@marcw6875 Well Strange's spell made them forget about Peter Parkers from other universes instead of the mcu one. Lots of problems in that spell
Seriously.
Willem dafoe is and always will be a master class in acting. His on off switch is crazy.
He should have received the Oscar for Shadow of the Vampire (no offense to the guy who won).
His on off crazy switch is crazy
His crazy switch is on/off.
I watched the behind-the-scenes for this. Him and Tom literally collapse when the director says cut at the final fight scene.
Ok.
Honestly thought that Andrew’s redemption by saving MJ was one of the best scenes.
Fax. Even though I knew it would happen from the trailer it was so good.
Honestly
Yes agreed
problem is EVERYONE knew that was coming when we saw her falling in the previews.
@@kitty.miracle You needed to see him in the Trailer to know? did you not look at the comments sections? EVERYONE was predicting that would happen last month.
Tobey: "Goblin deserves a second chance."
Tom: "I missed the part where that's my problem"
underrated comments asf
Well f’ing played
He got a his second chance already. What Tom didn't want to give him was a third chance.
He’ll get his chance when he fixes this damn door
@@12HitCombo Hey, at least the antidote worked. 👍
Having to wait to watch this Pitch Meeting until after seeing the movie was NOT super easy, definitely an inconvenience!
super inconvenient, barely easy
Oh Really?
Wow wow wow, woww!!!
Literally!! Took me 3 weeks 😂
Yeah, the Flash's book had me oh fu*k....
Just remember, when Ned forgot who Peter was, he also forgot his promise to Peter to not become a villain.
PLEASSS💀😭
He's been through enough already, being alone and having no one😓💔 worse than Invincible.
Hobgoblin here we come
I see where this is going.... 😭😭😭
@@caosisaac Oh god, that would be really insane.
@@caosisaac Yeah not subtle with the Goblin like collection of Knives, and the blue scale looking piece of fabric, and him spending a majority of the movie in yellow and blue
“I have to go watch 5 separate movies to enjoy this one?”
“Yeah, pretty much”
I’m dead, absolute gold 😂
If you’re interested, I do MARVEL and Star Wars Breakdowns (if you’re not interested, just ignore this and have a great day:)
7, actually: Homecoming and Far from Home as well. Also, if you want full context for what's happening, Loki. If you're curious about end-credits teases, Venom 3 and Dr Strange 2 - oh I just realized how the business model works
Ironic because that is literally what I did.
And I didn't regret it they're all good.
I just made my wife watch the Amazing Spider-Man 1 & 2 in preparation for watching No Way Home 😂😂
Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, Spider-Man 3, The Amazing Spider-Man, The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Captain America: Civil War, Spider-Man: Homecoming, Doctor Strange, Avengers: Infinity War, Avengers: Endgame, and Spider-Man: Far From Home just for the main characters. For the cameos you’ll need to watch at least season one of Daredevil, and the end credit scene from Venom: Let There Be Carnage.
I’m amazed he didn’t mention how easy it would have been if Peter asked Dr strange to cast a spell to make everyone forget what Masterio said instead of himself lol
Didnt even think of that one nice
Damn that didn't even cross my mind
Or how Strange could've used that spell to make Thanos forget about his 'erase half world population' plan XD.
Bruh this ^^^^^^^
@@sushant832 He probably did in a few hundred timelines and then got hella pruned by the TVA.
the delivery on
"oh my god is he alright????"
"ohhhhohohh.... yeah!"
kills me every time
I love how both of the foreign spidermen get those little moments of closure. One getting to save a falling MJ and the other getting to save Norman Osbourne from being impaled by his own glider.
Willem Dafoe came back 20 years later to once again be the main villain in a Spider-Man movie. 🤣 That’s how much of a badass he is.
I hope he is in the new boondock saints
*and look the same and act the same, if not better.
@@wtfbugs Without doing any research of my own, and literally just reading your comment, are they making a new "The Boondock Saints" movie?! If so, is it going to be a sequel? Will it be directed by Troy Duffy? Will Norman Reedus and Sean Patrick Flanery be in it? Your comment was a joke, wasn't it?
@@nerdock4747 indeed, looking the same is impressive!
@@Fluoride_Jones no joke saw an article and yes the brothers are back
"It seems the internet is tired of us killing Uncle Ben" "That makes sense" "So instead, we're gonna kill Aunt May" 😂😂😂
Spider-Man PS4 lol
At least Peter didn't trade a little girl's soul to the devil in exchange for May's life this time.
@@bobono To be fair, as much as I do like Aunt May, she should have never been brought back from the great sendoff she had in _The Clone Saga_ or whatever comic book arc it was. So if they can kill her off without doing it for cheap shock value, I'm fine with it.
*Fans* - The loss of Hot May hit us all pretty hard.
*Marvel* - Uh, don't you mean Aunt May?
*Fans* - We did not.
@@UJEvans when did he ever do that?
I loved seeing the team up of Willem Dafoe and Willem Dafriend
Little callmekevin reference.
@@joshuahall8749 Nope. Been a generic joke online for quite awhile.
🤣🤣🤣Very good.👌🏾👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
XD
@@joshuahall8749 I watch CallMeKevin and that was exactly what I thought of.
I'm calling it now: Nick Fury did not forget who Spiderman is, because he is "off planet" and the spell in the beginning of the movie stated "Everyone in the world forgot that Peter Parker is Spiderman" Since we never heard Strange say anything while incanting his spell, I'm just assuming it was the same as the first one.
At the same time though, when Peter was requesting the spell to Strange, he did make it clear that he wanted "everyone" to forget about him, which would include multi-versal beings and probably everyone in his universe. But ya never know, these movies always find a way
This seems like a small plot hole. None of these characters came searching for Tom Holland’s Peter Parker. They came looking for the Peter Parker they knew. Wouldn’t this spell basically make everyone in all universes forget who Peter Parker is in every universe?
@@rui5421 I had the same thought after watching this Pitch Meeting. I'm wondering if that may open the door for a future recombination of the Spider Man's when they go back to a world that forgot each of them...
@@G3SM If forgetting Peter Parker is what sends all these people back to their respective universes, does that mean the other spidermen also forget who they are?
Captain Marvel also remembers too!
"but tobey macguire steps in and stops him using nothing but his wise face!"
It is a very wise face
I fully braced myself for the internet to be weirdly horny for Dad McGuire and I'm still kind of amazed it did not happen.
It was a wise face, indeed.
@@grabble7605 Everyone is simping for Andrew Garfield rn instead
It's a very wise face, as long as he's not crying.
sarcasm apart, I think it still makes sense he didn't speak anything in that scene, as he already told Tom how killing the enemy didn't make it better. He just stood there to remind him of that.
Willem Dafoe was ungodly good in this. Every scene he was in gave me tingles and when he said "That's a neat little trick you do" I visibly shuddered at how quickly he pivoted
Not having the helmet really let him give the character life. He was terrific
@@willh3972 also terrifying, if i would say myself
Bruh I died when he was beating Tom Holland's ass and then gave him the undertaker last ride through the floor.
@@bennywarren9866 yesssss he dropped his ass through like 4 stories
I love the fact that at first the movie makes you feel for him, then suddenly rips the rug beneath your feet and reminds you that the Green Goblin would always be one of Spider-Man’s main antagonist
I still think the biggest missed opportunity was the fact that they gave him an apartment at the end. If he went into the next film homeless they could have called Spidey 4 Got no Home lol
haha how did he get money for an apartment
@@SDASermons pizza time
This is actually a really good comment lol. Underrated
Homeless
I like how the end credits showed that eddie brock/venom got pulled into the universe too but sat at the bar drinking for the whole duration only to get sent back before paying his bar tab...
That's hilarious. Everyone else was panicking. And they were getting drunk for 3 days straight and annoying a bartender.
But how did Eddie know of Peter Parker? Did that happen in the second Venom movie?
@@samuelperezgarcia They don't. It's a end credits scene swap for each series. In Venom: Let There Be Carnage they get teleported to Spectacular Spider-Mans world. And in Spider-Man: No Way Home Venom and Eddie spend the entire time getting drunk and annoying a bartender. And then teleport back home.
@@CommanderViviax He's asking for the in-movie explanation as to why he's transported there. Eddie doesn't know Peter Parker so the spell shouldn't have applied to him
@@92brunod There isn't a in movie explanation. They just went there by accident.
"Toby Mcguire Spiderman steps in and stops him using nothing but his Wise Face. "
I DIED at that part! It was soo true! 😆🤣💀
yeah that scene was very cringe and garfield was just watching from far...
@@arorajivlogs1641 how was it cringe?
Tobey*
Toby McGregor
@@arorajivlogs1641 How was it cringe ?
I love how this movie is just like those fanfic stories that you’d see on RUclips but it’s really good (subjectively speaking)
you can call it fanfiction love, nobody's judging you here!!
@@pixiiedusts I know it’s also that but ehh
@@pixiiedusts that word gives me nausea
@@pixiiedusts Hey, fanfic writer here! Literally in my non-spoiler review of the movie on IG I said it felt like a fanfic in the best way possible! Just in the sense that everything people write fics about (i.e. everything fans WANTED to see in this film), it all happened.
Its because a fan knows exactly what other fans want so its done better
I liked the line from Aunt May's Tombstone, sth like "If you save one, you save everyone", because Peter's kindness in the beginning of saving Doc Ock actually did save their asses later and as a consequence, everyone, even all the bad guys.
I liked it because ps4 game
wdym save their asses later?
It is a variation from the Talmud. " Whoever saves a life, saves the world entire"
Quite powerful
@@leonpaelinck Doc Ock is the one that stops Electro while the others can't get close to him.
Their asses wouldn't have needed to be saved, and 1000's more innocent lives wouldn't have been lost if he just sent them back like he should have at the beginning lol. So no, he didn't save everyone by saving one. The people who died would disagree.
4:54 is my favorite part, if only because it showcases all three of the possible reactions to this film:
1. That it's a genuine love letter to Spidey.
2. That it's cheap fanservice.
3. That it is fanservice but is done by people that are just as much fans of the source material as you.
Ironic how the Movies and games treat peter better more than the comics
Can we just talk about the moment when Andrew Garfield saves MJ, hits you straight in the feels
For real. Everything Tom Holland did in this movie just made me face palm or yell at the screen, while our boy Garfield was over here having real character arc moments. Hope they give him some more screen time in the Sony-verse!
I started clapping in the theater. Quickly everybody joined in before it zoomed in on the tears in his eyes. Beautiful moment indeed
I cried. The entire theater cried. We all clapped. We had a moment.
My 22 year old son jumped up and yelled "REDEMPTION"
I legit started to cry! One of the best scenes of the movie 🥺🥺
This movie is basically "He's from the other movies!" The Movie. And there's nothing wrong with that.
except that the movie has nothing else going for it
Wouldn't say that new channel. There's the ending for one thing.
That's most of what New Guy did! Its the new Disney thing
@@fightingmedialounge519 I liked the very very ending where it seems they realised they messed up making a little iron boy junior and are now rebooting him as actually being spiderman.
But if you mean the whole climax part where it's tryna be emotional with dr strange and michelle saying they dont wanna forget etc.. that was just cringey and annoying imo
@@sonia5698 Not a Disney film though. A Sony film with 3 characters borrowed from Disney.
Peter: “I wish everyone forgot Peter Parker existed!”
Random Kid Named Peter Parker: “Good morning mom” 😊
Random Kid’s Mom: “WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY HOUSE?!”
If that kid is a middle child that would be just another monday
Peter: "I wish everyone forgot Peter Parker existed!"
Also Peter Parker : "who am i ?..."
I don't know why but "he was great in Chocolat" gets me everytime 😂
first time I ever saw him
I’m surprised Ryan didn’t mention that everything they needed to cure the villains was in a high school chemistry lab and could be created in a few hours
Well, since Peter Parker is a genius and there were three of them I guess they were just very resourceful. Like how Tony Stark built an arc reactor in a cave, with a box of scraps.
That was actually the part I was expecting to get mentioned as, "Super Easy, Barely an Inconvenience."
@@t.rexking441 Also the other two had had years to think about it
@@hunterlawrence3573 still.....NO STAKES.
we all KNEW they would succeed NO MATTER WHAT....cuz.....HOLLYWOOD.
gimme Shang Chi or Cap America: Winter Soldier !
@@jonbongjovi1869 …what?
Strange: "I am master of the mystic arts, and in the Mirror Dimension, I control everything!"
Spidey: *Knows math*
He's great at geometry.
Nice
Lol! Strange was so surprised by the person he forgets is just a kid being good at math xD so now we all know how to stop magic its super easy barely an inconvenience because Geometry
It was cool that it gave Spiderman an edge for being smart...but at the same time it was yet another thing that came at the cost of Dr Strange. Like Dr Strange had to overlook that in order for the scene to work and that looks bad on him.
Wouldn't strange, being a surgeon doctor, also have to be somewhat good at math to be as precise as he was? Didn't strange also memorize the entire library of books at Tamerkage within a few months?
Great stuff. Have to say that even when parodying the plot Ryan still, like me , admires the fact that these weren’t just cheap cameos.
What they did with Toby and Andrew really exceeded expectations.
They did great. It really made me appreciate Andrew more. He was a great Spiderman. Didn't love the movies, but he was quite good in them anyway.
Yes, yes it did. I think we all expected cameos, or for them to come in, in the middle of the final battle or moments before it. They came in quite early and had big parts. It truly was a love letter to the fans.
It made me feel nothing. I kept asking why they’re here other than make fanboys go “EEEEEE!”
I cried like a baby when Garfield's Spiderman saved MJ, like a sunburnt baby. That call back to him failing to make the same save of Gwen crushed me. That's all I wanted to say.
I didn't like the Andrew Garfield reboot.. but that scene had me a little choked up as well.
that was such a cringe forced scene lmaoo get some standards
@@paveantelic7876 ha ha, ho ho, "get some standards" lmao. Anyone that takes the time to write this kind of troll comment for reaction doesn't understand the meaning of standards and throws the term around to really say "you shouldn't feel anything from something that I didn't."
@@paveantelic7876 yup. This whole movie was cringe. Completely overrated
@@PureBlackDragon not my problem you react to various crap like you were born yesterday
It’s hilarious how offended he got at “you have no idea”
“Hey that’s rude! I have idea ”
Me: has no idea/idea
I could imagine Ryan in the theater watching Andrew and Tobey show up and then going "wow, wow, wow"
...wow
XD
@@partyfish3415 I imagine him going THERE FROM THE 1ST MOVIE AND THE 2ND MOVIE AND THE 3RD ONE... AND HE'S FROM THE 1ST MOVIE OF THE REBOOT AND THE 2ND MOVIE OF THE REBOOT
Yeah this sounded better in my head
one for each spiderman
No....Ryan went to the theater and when he saw Tobey and Andrew , he was like "who are these guys?" ...and the audience beside him said "I need you to go watch the 5 Spiderman movies real quick"..then Ryan watched those movies...and when he watched no way home again he was like "wow wow wow wow"
i imagine two Ryans
3:03 Electro never saw Peter Parker's face, but he knew his first name was Peter because he heard Gwen call him by name.
I loved the part when the three Peters were on top of the Statue of Liberty and they were talking about the craziest villains they've fought.
Toby: I fought an alien made of black goo
Tom: I fought an alien too! On earth and in space and he was PURPLE!
Garfield: I fought a Russian riding a rhinoceros...
Too late to the party, but all that part was a blast. For me it was when they were talking about the webs. Andrew asks, and Tom apologizes (when he wasn't even on the conversation).
Chees!
@@PantoniStrikesBack I wish I could watch the movie again, but NOOO! Disney won't have a competitor's movie on their streaming program, even though he has already been in MULTIPLE other movies for the MCU...
@@andrewgrulke7476 totally agree. In the end, I've had put my eyepatch, picked my parrot, and... well, you know. :P
Cheers!
@@PantoniStrikesBack shoes still M.I.A.?
How hard was it to avoid spoilers for "No Way Home?" -- Super difficult, actually - a substantial inconvenience!
Just avoided my phone
Wow, now aren’t you a throwback. I loved your microwave series
Super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Oh really?
Yeah, were just gonna go the route of.. not trying at all ?
Wow wow wow
I didn't see any spoilers
😂😂😂
"Spidey senses don't work if you're having a moment".
Entirely accurate. Black Cat proposed to Spider-Man and was able to catch him off guard during the proposal.
I get it. Basically, sensory overload from an emotional standpoint..
Well Spidey that did break his heart.
I really hope Felicia is his next love interest.
@@fnpoolguy Andrew already got Felicia in his universe, so we need TASM3
Im guessing they do work, but the distraction of whatever is happening at that point is just too much to process the sense. Which makes sense.
"Cashing in on nostalgia done right" god that is so true. I didn't even realised i was nostalgic for Maguire until he showed up. All the pisstake bits in the pitch are so accurate and yet it works anyway somehow.
"Some of that was great. What was all that jazz thing about?"
"We don't need to talk about that"
😅🤣😂
This movie was basically a fan written story come to life, in a very good way! 👌
It sucked
@@Rubrick23. it sucked all the negative energy, then turned it back as a positive energy.
@@bullymaguirememes7390 no the movie was trash. How dare you try and shame me for speaking facts duck off.
@@Rubrick23. you did too much trolling ☹️
It really felt like a celebration for the last 20 years of Spider-Man! ❤️
One of the best moments was when Andrew rescued MJ, such an emotional scene
Andrew owned it he was the highlight for me
@@mmobhm2059 they did him a lotta justice,it just annoys me how much more likeable he was in his limited time in this movie compared to his own 2 movies.
@@PedroCosta-qs7wr he was plenty likable in his actual films wdym
@@PedroCosta-qs7wr He was good in those films, the movies were just bad
@@PedroCosta-qs7wr pretty much a good actor playing a good version of peter parker in a bad written movie.
“Cashing in on nostalgia, but done right.” - exactly.
They remembered the "...love letter to the fans..." part.
5:30 - The twist here is the most underrated joke in the video
"It's gonna be a little hard to keep track of which spider man is which?"
"Actually ... yeah a little"
PLOT TWIST OF CENTURY!
"Cashing in on nostalgia, but done right."
The only way to make a superhero movie.
Oh Cashing in on nostalgia is tight!
Even both of them fanboy-ing over Spider-men franchise. Wow, wow, wow, wow, the power of Disney Money is tight.
Also, next time: Spider Man Home Alone.
Uhh no
Tastefully
"You know, I'm something of a scientist myself." 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
5:29
"It's going to be a little hard trying to keep track of which spider-man is which during the big fight, huh?"
"Actually.."
I know this! Super easy, barely an inconveni...
"Yea, a little"
Lost it 🤣
Tobey was able to save Harry's dad and Andrew was able to save Peter's girlfriend. This movie didn't just redeem or give second chances to its villains but its heroes too. Just beautiful.
Also the subtle reference to Toby's "back injury" was genius. Only Marvel can bring up an issue that almost got Maguire replaced by Jake Gyllenhaal.
Which is ironic because they wouldnt have been there without Jake Gyllenhaal's mysterio
Lol, they were actually referencing Spiderman 2 and the famous, "I'm back, ow my back" line. But that's also a funny take on it that I hadn't thought about
@@ramshackle45 Sam Raimi has said in interviews that the line in Spider-Man 2 is a joking reference to the whole drama about Tobey's "back injury" issue drama with the negotiations before that film.
@@aarons4376 I didn't know that, thanks!
In a different universe, Tobey maguire plays mysterio
The most unique pitch meeting episode I’ve ever seen. Studio Executive guy has to go see the other five Spider-Man films in order to understand the hype for No Way Home.
The Casino Royale pitch meeting is also very original
You can also tell Ryan loved this one because the jokes are more about the fan service than any real flaw of the movie.
@@glendarjj3991 exactly
Yeah, reminds me of Transformers... "There's just no way for me to go back and check"
@@glendarjj3991 It's because the movie is flawless.
Aunt May randomly breaking up with Happy (especially since she was just going to die later anyways) seemed kinda mean spirited and unnecessary too. I really enjoyed their dynamic and felt like they did a decent job of building up their romance. It didn't seem to serve any narrative purpose other than getting a few cheap laughs in at Happy's expense.
And the graveside meeting would have been more intense
"It didn't seem to serve any narrative purpose other than getting a few laughs in at Happy's expense."
Basically the MCU
True. It seemed excessive and cruel. They should have stayed together.
Welcome to the MCU. Just pull up a chair and make yourself comfy
Especially considering they used his house to live in later on
It’s weird he doesn’t know that Andrew Garfield and Toby Mguire played as Spider-Man even though they did a pitch meeting for all the movies
The joke is that Hollywood producer guy doesn't care about or watch any of the movies he greenlights, he only listens to make sure they're gonna make lots of money.
Best i can think of is different studio? Toby Maguire was fox. Andrew Garfield was sony. Maybe these are the marvel/disney sceen writer/producer guys?
@@alanjefferson1127 This right here is the correct answer to the joke.
Listen, I’m gonna need you to get all the way off my back about continuity in the Pitchiverse.
Speaking of, does that mean that they also will forget that they're Peter Parker because of the spell?
"So you want to hide that Tobey and Andrew are in the movie?"
"Yes."
"But you also want viewers to have watched the other two Spider-Mans in order to fully understand the movie?"
"Yes."
when you put it like that it does sound counterintuitive.
"yes"
so are you going to do anything about it?
"no"
Literally did an entire marathon of the previous Spider-man movies and Venom movies just so I could watch No Way Home
@@foxtrap86flame
I did the same thing, except I skipped the Venom movies rewatch because I had a feeling Venom wouldn’t actually be in it and he would be saved for a later movie. Good thing I followed my gut.
@@Homeboy_Brando You clearly left the theater as soon as the first credits rolled like an ignoramus who is somehow still surprised by the concept of credit scenes.
@@Homeboy_Brando shut up
Willem Dafoe is a great actor but his portrayal of the green goblin is phenomenal I mean it REALLY feels like the green goblin is an alternate personality of willem Dafoe and not just Norman osborn
I always loved how much he was such a psycho In the Raimi verse, hell bent on breaking spider-man and proving a point. I was so glad to see how he was written the same way In no way home and how ruthless he was.
I felt genuine sympathy for Norman, to the point that I could get on board with Aunt May trying to help him-- and then his turn to irredeemable psychopathy felt equally real.
The physical transformation is hugely pivotal but extremely understated. Anytime it is Norman Orborn, Willem DaFoe has fake teeth making his smile more “normal” looking but any time he switches to GG, he uses his normal teeth which are a bit more “crazy” looking. It is subtle but adds a lot.
I want him to play the Joker so bad.
Dafoe is a bad ass!@! love him
"I have idea!"
Impossible not to love Ryan. Can't be done.
I can't believe I was able to avoid all the spoilers until today when I finally watched this movie, and obviously followed it by watching its pitch meeting
I think the fact that Ned was able to create portals effortlessly and that the cape went to him will come into play later. Also, remember that he explicitly swore never to hurt Peter by turning into a supervillain, but has now forgotten everything. That also might become a storypoint later.
Don't spoil Ned Supreme
Maybe don't look up Ned Leeds in the comics. Lol
I could of sworn Strange threw the cape at him so he wouldn’t fall and die cuz spider-man was busy and MJ was saved, but maybe magic will come into play but I think if Strange erased everyone’s memories of Peter I don’t think Ned MJ or Strange even remember that happened , I hope Strange remembers but he did say bye like he wasn’t going to remember
Spoiler: ned becomes a villain in spiderman comics :p
Hobgoblin
I hope this becomes the most watched pitch meeting!
Oh, this becoming the most viewed Pitch Meeting would be TIGHT! 😁
second most watched in the first day you mean?
It should be super easy, barely and inconvenience.
It definitely will be
2.5k in 15 minutes; most don't get that many views in the existence of their channel
"Instead we kill aunt may"
Writer Guy seems so jolly saying that 😂😂😂
The reversal on "actually..." was tight! 5:32
It's so easy to just not think about how many things make no sense or how they aren't good enough when you're having as much fun as you do in No Way Home. Thankfully, we have the pitch meeting to remind us!
As good ol Ed Wood said "Suspension of disbelief!" if a movie is good, you'll forgive more stuff, when you start nitpicking like crazy its because the movie wasn't good enough in general.
Kinda like when you eat junk food, isn't it?
When magic is involved, the story has no need of common sense anymore. Harry Potter series didn't have any common sense as well, isn't it? Because they have all become fantasy stories.
@UCLFLfQPS8whBz5PW2YIPF3Q they try to but that series is absolutely riddled with plot holes bc she made up the rules as she went along
Yeah, the plotting - from beginning to end - didn't really hang together, but the fan service is so much fun the movie still works. Glad I saw it with an enthusiastic crowd.
"It is going to be hard to tell which Spiderman is which in the fight huh.."
I was expecting "Barely an inconvenience", but got "Actually, yeah a little". Laughed.
I liked that part too but I knew who was who mask or no mask cause there are subtle differences in the designs. But my parents were pretty confused.
I think this might be my favourite pitch meeting - it's so great to see screenwriter guy disorientated and frustrated for a change :)
7:06 -Leaks!
- Oh, yeah leeks!
* Marvel and Sony gives people free leek soup in cinema! *
- Sir... that wasn't what I meant...
That "He was fantastic in "chocolat"" line kills me every time
He was in the first raiders of the ark movie too
@@nosuchthing8 There’s a second raiders of the lost ark?
@@Binks129 yeah, it's called "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade".
@@samuelperezgarcia well that joke went way over your head lol
@@Binks129 To be honest, Samuel's joke reply went way over your head as well... Lol...
With all of its flaws, this is the best Spidey movie ever for me. The look on Andrew Garfield's face when he saved MJ was priceless.
Best scene in the movie.
I cried so hard. Happy tears, of course!
When I saw MJ falling in the Trailer I immediately wanted them to do EXACTLY that! I am very satisfied with it!
nah, spiderman 2 and into the spider verse are both a lot better. Spiderman 1 was also better.
I’m still deciding how I feel about it and I think it’s because I’m not big enough of a spidey fan to forgive its flaws so easily lol. I LOVED that part where Andrew Garfield caught MJ though. That was so special. ❤️
@@ceciliahorner2664 same. The movie was subpar. Dialogue were weak, spiderman's trademark humor was missing and Tom's acting missed a mark at some points. Amazing fan service though. They made a lot happen.
no them asking toby about how he doesn't need web fluid was the best.
I love how even Producer Guy didn't mention Topher Grace.
1:31 the way he says Chocolat 😂
I didn't even stop to think about how "okay" this movie would be for someone who didn't grow up with all the other Spider-Man franchises. :D
I'm one of those people. I mean, I wasn't really interested in Spider-Man movies prior to the MCU, so I haven't watched any of those. Still, it was better than OK actually. But I felt a bit of a disconnect, when half of the audience cheered for things I was mostly clueless about.
My friend made me watch the Tobey MacGuire trilogy a couple months ago but I've never seen the Andrew Garfield ones so a few of those references went over my head. Seriously fun time tho
@@prof_hu I'd recommend it. The Raimi trilogy is really well-made, even though the third installment had its hiccups. And for the Webb trilogy, as you could probably tell from No Way Home, Garfield is a really good Spider-Man, even if the script wasn't always up to par.
Actually the story still work but the reference is not..
IS it okay even when seeing the first movies soo....
The Electro and social security number issues were spot-on.
Meh. Having a record of someone's social security number doesn't mean you know who they are. The spell removed Peter Parker from people's memories, it didn't erase Peter Parker from existence. For most people, their lives after the spell were the same as they were before The Daily Bugle revealed Spider-Man's identity. Same for all the bureaucracy that relates to Peter Parker.
Yeah my friends and are all immigrants and we joked about how Peter Parker is technically an undocumented immigrant now! On the bright side he doesn't have to pay federal taxes! On the other he will probably be deported if caught...
@@13strong also they seem to know spiderman but not peter Parker which may be a loophole for the next movie...
Think about how much less sense the mid credit scene makes.... Electro at least knew OF spiderman.
@@erikhermansen3431 The hive mind that the venom symbiots share knew of Peter Parker and that he was Spider-Man. Even if they normally could not share this information between universes, tho I think they can since Venom said universes, the multiverse was cracking and allowed it.
6:35 *Very sad😃*
"What was that jazz thing?"
"We don't talk about it"
🤣🤣
I think the impact of May dying is pretty strong since we’ve known her for three movies rather than just dying in the first. Just a thought.
actually the way she dies was kinda funny.
I didnt cared about this May dying. Yes, we have seen her 3 movies, but I never felt a true emotional connection to Peter, she was more his sexy milf roommate, than the mother figure May is supposed to be.
I was sadder when Tobey's May didnt got the toaster at the bank.
Yes!
I agree
I’ve always been bothered by May’s age in this series so, as heartless as it is to say, I’m not that sad to see her go.
"You know I'm someTHING of a scientist myself." - I lost it more than I should when I heard that line.
EDIT thanks to a comment.
someTHING
@@rebotsomat2341 True. My bad! Thanks Rebot.
@@arminxvs3372 i like how you just copy pasted his capital letters into your comment XD
@@derpizzadieb Credit where credit is dued ^^
@@derpizzadieb i love it too hahah
For me, Tobey Maguire coming through the portal was one of the best moments of 2022 so far! I only just watched No Way Home because I had to binge the Andrew Garfield ones to catch up 😁 BTW - I'm pretty sure if, after the forgetting spell, Peter spoke to Happy or any of the other surviving Avengers about who he was, they would probably believe him, given all the crazy stuff they've been through... Maybe that's what he'll do next?
LOL the Jazz thing "we don't need to talk about it" perfect xD
No one could have guessed that Tobey and Andrew would be in the movie. I bet no one saw that coming! 🙃
Andrew: I'm gonna need you to get ALL the way off my back about No Way Home.
Interviewers: No, I'm not gonna get off of that thing.
I know right! I screamed like a girl when I saw Andrew Garfield come through that portal....I had no know Idea they were....it was a good secret they kept in the trailers... especially the part when Tom Holland Spiderman swing to 3 villains by himself and lizard got hit by an invisible man...such a good secret
My friend told me that there was proof they were in there. I wish they haven’t.
@@ShaneFullerYT I thought hiding Palpatine in Rise of Skywalker until the teaser trailer was impressive, but this time they hid it until the premiere. That's unheard of.
Tbh, thinking about it, it makes very little sense to have one Spider-Man fighting several villains at the end. And the way the 3 v 1 slow mo jump shot was shot it's so obvious that the other two were there just removed.
Man Peter blipping in Tony's arms, Tony dying, and now everyone forgetting about Peter! These two characters keep making me cry! 🥺😭
Movie houses just starte re-opening in the Philippines. So after binge watching movies, I'm now binge watching Pitch Meetings.
5:51 *"That's kind of rude of you emotionally"* that's literally me watching that scene, at first I was like don't you dare kill off Tobey Maguire but then I was kinda underwhelmed by how that moment went nowhere lol.
Well he does have good healing abilities so he was always gonna be fine.
@@Gioppdumister Yeah, I know it just kind felt like there was gonna be a big emotional moment from how the scene was framed, being the reverse of Norman getting stabbed in his first movie.
i didn’t know that Thanos was a fan of Spiderman
Bro that moment lead to them hugging all together
@@mayankshrivastava3774 Didn’t Peter brake some ribs attempting to save aunt may earlier in the movie, but continues to swing around as if nothing happened, that’s typical spider man, stabs and internal bleeding rarely stops this man
The producer somehow not having any clue about Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield being previous Spider-Men was similar to a friend I have who knew nothing about them two being Spider-Men
My friend didn't even knew tom.
Guys, you probably need new friends.
Its hard losing friends, isnt it? Its ok, you did the right thing.
Wait producers really didn’t know
If everyone forgets who peter parker is, doesn't that mean everyone forgets toby and Andrew in their universe too?
Nope
@@DrakeRing all the other villains from the other universes would have had to, that's what kept them from being able to come through to begin with
I had this question too, haha.
Writer dude: We're gonna need you to get all the way off our backs on that
That's actually what I thought as well lol
6:06 "oh no..." lol hilarious
I wasn't expecting how important the other Spiderman would be, definitely thought they would just be a cameo.
Awesome!
Exactly. I was pretty sure they were showing up. But the fact that they were a huge part of the movie blew my mind. It was like the twist had a twist.
I loved seeing them, but apart from a little piece of advice they added nothing to the story.
I was pleasantly shocked that they managed to be a large part of the story and each had their moments but it was still very clearly Tom’s movie. Loved the way they used andrew and Tobey
@@Adrian-dl9nb what? They added a lot. Tom got to see the 2 sides of being Spider-Man. In Tobey, he has more embraced the Peter Parker aspect. He made it work with MJ, he was just chilling in casual clothes and offers great wisdom. Andrew seemed to abandon the Peter Parker and embraced the Spider-Man persona. He got dark, stopped pulling punches, and all that. Now, tom showed that he will work in the middle ground and understand the consequences of going to far on either side. It was poetic how much they added to the story.
Plus Andrew’s redemption with saving MJ and Tobey being the one to stop Tom from killing the Goblin sounds pretty damn important to me
They gave us more than what we were expecting and hoping for. Anybody that was disappointed because they wished there was more is just plain greedy
"It's gonna be a little hard to keep track of which spiderman is which during the big fight"
"Actually....a little"
I died 😂
Im legally blind and i watch the movie with audio descriptions headphones
They describe andrew as Tall Peter and Toby as elder Peter
@@siege824s8 That's great lmao
@@siege824s8 ngl that is pretty accurate lmao
😭😂😂😂
Actually super easy! We will just have them constantly take their mask off after every swing.
"oh no, is he okay??" ....
"Ehhhh, yeah" 😂😂🤣
Ryan is always strong, but I feel he tapped into another dimension to throw triple entendres in this one. This one is fire
I'm not ashamed to admit this might be the best movie I've seen for several years. Don't care about any plot holes because the enjoyment factor was off the charts.
Strongly agree. Gotta see it again and again
You guys is why the mcu give us mediocre trash as of late
@@stephenwalker972 So, No Way Home was mediocre?
@@chethammer it was mediocre to average at best
Exactly. I notice so many weird stuff in the beginning but forgot all of it when Andrew popped up. Even before then, the villains were so good how they interacted and Doc Oc, Goblin and Electro were amazing. William Defoe deserves an Oscar
My dad turned to me after Aunt May died and said, "why didn't he just text MJ and have her push the button?" And I said, "so the movie could happen." Lol
that scene was really awkward...cuz ALL OF US< except Spidey....would've WHISKED HER AWAY TO THE HOSPITAL IMMEDIATELY....but he was real casual about that!
Or why did Spidey not grab her and try to get her to hospital as fast as possible?
@@jonbongjovi1869 it really was! And we were thinking the same thing. The whole thing just seemed off. I also thought it was weird how the swat team started unloading on him while he was standing over her dead body.
@@dustinharvey5393 That struck me as odd too, but then I considered that with all that's happened in the Marvel universe, the ROE for a super-being is probably way different. 😅
@@jonbongjovi1869 Aunt May was not able to be saved, her wounds were to bad by the time he’d gotten anywhere she would have died and probably have been in crazy pain from all the swinging on the way
I died laughing when Tobey said he had back problems 🤣
This is an amazing pitch meeting. I love how Ryan made a twist and a little skit about the Producer guy hasn't watched the previous Spider-Man movies. Truly amazing! This is my favorite Pitch meeting now! Amazing job Ryan! I can't wait for the next one.
I thought they were going to appear during middle of a fight when tom is taking on too many at once but i also loved how they actually entered the movie
In that version, you'll hear Peter say "on your left" to Peter
@@Onionion852 the virgin “On your left” vs the chad “I just wish we could see Peter right now.”
the way tobey and andrew appeared on the screens was the most wasted moment on the mcu, there are gazilian better ways that could have happened better than it did
@@apetogetherstrong4243 I mean people are never happy regardless so
@@apetogetherstrong4243 oh yeah? What are better ways they could have done it?
"Spidey senses don't work if you're having a moment." Loved that line
I mean, it's comic accurate.
nor from thrown bread, apparently
@@Bayofthe91st
It have to be a threat.
@@Bayofthe91st bananas are his kryptonite
I have been waiting on this for over a month. Great job, love the channel
"I have idea."
*a thousand chef kisses*
"Oh man it's gonna be tough recognizing which Spider-Man is which. Actually, yeah, a little."
OMG Ryan you broke me!
Not at all! Most of the time they don't have their masks on 😆
"That's rude! I have idea!" lmao this did it for me.
*As for the movie, I LOVED IT! it was pure, unadulterated fan service and I absolutely enjoyed it!*
they didn't do the 3 spidermen pointing at each other at same time though....
@@nomooon they did it in at the school science lab
"...REALLY?" had me cackling
Great 2021 dude. Always funny and super easy barely an inconvenience