@hdvee I chose Dragon, and I swept him with Shift Gear Aggron. I had healing items, which made it easier. You not buying any was the most painful part of this.
You remember that electric type Gym leader that lost his passion and went up to hang out in the lighthouse in one of the pokemon games? Seeing you fight the same trainers over and over, I think I understand what he meant.
I just finished shining pearl so this is a fair comparison. But agreed. Though the way gym leaders work in pokemon has always been weird tbh. Since arguably most of them should have just really strong mons lol. Granted, it wouldn't be an actual game if they all had level 50s and stuff either
@@ragnazero1971 the Origins anime actually explains this - gym leaders use pokémon relative to the skill level of the trainer they're facing, and in game this translates to their respective level
@@saadinhalf The plot is not really the most important thing in mainline PkMn games, I'd say you noticed that already! Pokémon really has so many other facettes where there's actually always somehow something in it for everyone, making these gameplays superb for most! If you don't like it in general, that's okay too, many other good games out there. I'm sure there's something in there for you my friend!
These are the starters of each type. Bug: dwebble, scyther, larvesta. Sig move: x-scissor Dark: sneasel, stunky, houndour Sig move: dark pulse Dragon: gible, bagon, Dieno Sig move: dragon claw Electric: pichu, shinx, joltik Sig move: thunderbolt Fairy: ralts(female), togepi, cleffa Sig move: dazzling gleem Fighting: riolu, tyrogue, makuhita Sig move: brick break Fire: vulpix, growlithe, magby Sig move: flamethrower Flying: gligar, doduo, noibat Sig move: acrobatics Ghost: misdreavus, duskull, drifloon Sig move: shadow ball Grass: cottonee, cherubi, petilil Sig move: energy ball Ground: Hippopatas, diglett, phanpy Sig move: earthquake Ice: swinub, bergmite, lapras Sig move: ice beam Normal: eevee, munchlax, kangaskhan Sig move: return Poison: nidoran F, nidoran M, skorupi Sig move: poison jab Psychic: solosis, sigilyph, bronzor Rock: onix, rhyhorn, aerodactyl Sig move: rock slide Steel: shieldon, ferrosead, aron Sig move: flash cannon Water: buizel, horsea, chinchou Sig move scald Most of these pokemon are unable to be found in the wild so if you want a sun team for a fire gym choose vulpx an wait till you can vacation to get you ability changed. Ground is by far the strongest start with a sand stream Hippopatas, sandshrew and wooper and there are close to no grass type trainers in the game.
As a game concept, the trainers you invite to hang out in your gym should screen out the weaker trainers. Like, you could really shoot yourself in the foot by inviting a strong trainer too early, who wouldn't let anyone below level 40 pass while your own team is in the 25-30 level range. It could also make THE MAIN PART OF THE GAME more fun, instead of pointlessly using Blisseys as punching bags.
well the trainers you invite are supposed to do some damage to the incoming team before they get to you. you shouldn't have to fight your opponents at full strength
I think there's real promise for a type of Pokemon game where you have to play the role of a gym leader, but you start out in a town on a low route. As a result, you have a level cap on how strong the team you bring to your gym battles can be and have to beat scrub trainers with a level 10 - 15 team of two - three pokemon. Outside of gym battles you can have your actual team of pokemon and you use those to go to regional ranking matches where you square off against other gym leaders to see where each of your gyms gets seeded. Higher seeds get to have stronger gym teams and start attracting gym trainers that weed out the plebs for you. Once you hit 1st seed, you can start going for the regional equivalent of the elite four, topping out at regional champion.
Honestly the fact that we don't have a game like this is a bit sad. Like we have the ranger games and other spin off titles to experience various other roles in the pokemon universe, so why not the ever present gym leader? I rather like the concept you thought up there, feels a lot like the progression of the standard pokemon game, but adjusted for the beurocracy of ascending ranks as a gym leader, A+ stuff, I would definitely play a game with those mechanics.
Sounds like a solid idea would make a good mmo type pokemon game, as gym leaders would constantly be changing and would keep you on your toes as a trainer.
What would be cool and was hinted at in Pokémon Origin : gym leaders have different teams depending the amount of badges the challengers has. Like, you can't just wipe people with a Tyranitar, you have to have viable strategies not only with your core team but also with the two poor geodudes you throw at newbies, with interesting yet restrained movesets and items.
Pretty much confirmed in Sword and Shield. All of the gym leaders have much higher level Pokemon in the end game dynamax battles caused by Sordward and Shielbert.
also, i dont know if levels actually exist in the pokemon universe. i mean its not like anyone levels up in the show, theres no restriction on only knowing 4 moves because pikachu knows about 50 and im pretty sure mewtwo just makes up his own attacks. i think the levels dont necessarily represent how strong someone is physically speaking but more like they represent your teamwork between trainer and pokemon and obviously your pokemons general fitness and experience. the difference is that they wouldnt need extra teams in the show if levels dont really exist. because the pokemon would all be relatively the same strength. thats why you could go to any gym in any order. so, i dont think levels are real, i think its just a mechanic that the video games use to help you visualize the concept of training.
@@KugroxFour moves are a thing in the anime and manga. There were outliers back in the day but there were giant Pokemon and weird stuff too. As for levels well there’s certainly disparities in strength, speed, toughness etc but levels as a whole aren’t technically a thing.
@@Kugrox Pokemon's levels are explicitly mentioned in the very first season of the anime. The point, however, was to introduce a character that was a know-it-all about pokemon fighting. It was just a one-time gimmick. Restrictions proper to the game aren't referenced in the series because what makes shonens fun is when fights look cool and are won because of astute and creative improvements that take the audience by surprise. When the improvements that allows to win the fight merely comes from training or deus ex machinas that make character A's number becoming higher than character B's and there is nothing more to it, it turns into Dragon Ball Z instead.
@@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059 If 4 moves are a thing in the Anime and Manga it's because it originated in the games. A Charmeleon who knows leer growl flamethrower and fire blast doesn't just lose the ability to slash with his claws if he so wishes. Or if growl or leer isn't on the list it doesn't mean he can't look at something mean or growl. It's just a game mechanic.
Maybe this concept isn't great for an actual game but I'd love to see some kind of "Gym Maker" in a new pokemon game. You would make your own "minigame" layout, place trainers by yourself, give them pokemon from your PC, make your own leader or fight as a leader and share the gym online.
i feel like them making this a spin off like pokemon stadium would be great because it wouldn’t be main line, it would have the battle sim, and probably be really fun
the one thing that this game needs is actual gym fighters in your gym that weed out the weak trainers, you know, just like how most gyms are. Could make it like a tower defense where you can customize the path to you, use AI to predict how battles will go and see if they defeat the fighters you pick.
If you can get promoted to the elite 4 that would make a perfect post game for a mainline game. Also world tournaments every now and then would be cool too
Great video. No intro, no trailers, just gameplay. I really liked that all games are tested and played before our eyes, this helped me pick a game immediately. Thanks 😍
Nooo way!!! I did not expect that ending lol such a strong boss. Dude your tempo, commentary, and floor were very entertaining and engaging. 30 minutes went by like nothing
I tried this game using ghost type. The beginning was not easy for me. There was one trainer that kept beating me and I had to over level and hunt down other types that could use shadow ball till I was farther in the game. There was also one trainer not in the gym that I had to keep avoiding early because they had a normal type and all my attacking moves were ghost 😅
@@SteelGnat I caught a gengar at night in the even badder lands area. I never used ghastly/haunter so I dont know what you have to do to evolve it. I honestly didnt use it much cause I already had a pretty good team by then.
I actually did choose Ghost as well, and you're screwed if you fought the early trainers since All I had was Duskull Astonish... That does absolutely nothing to normal/flying type. On the plus side the first time I fought the Hiker in badlands he only had Trash.
You know, why hasn’t someone made an official version of this game? This is an awesome concept for Pokémon that’s been unexplored, kinda like getting to play the evil teams that exist in the universe.
No ones done it because its not all that interesting by itself in practice Ok as a side mode to play every now and then but if it was the only thing it gets pretty boring fast
@@NarumiButterflyIt could be good for postgame, basically like this but with only the stronger NPC trainers who have full teams and can beat the elite 4. Then have the former champion return to his hometown so you can still battle.
theoretical “thinking too much about pokémon logic” thing: after a certain point, if a gym leader is beat so many times, wouldn’t the pokémon league intervene and be like “hey….youre trash, what’s going on? youre really sending out a lvl 7 geodude and a lvl 9 onix?”
This is something that seems missing from this game - surely part of the point of having a gym is that *some* people should actually pass your challenge! I would like to have seen some exploration of the idea that yes, you should lose some proportion of your matches, but not while compromising the challenge your gym is offering, and in some way selecting the trainers that get their badge and get to progress to the next part of their journey.
@@sofieselnes477 Imagine if you got reputation gain for losing your first battle in the middle of a win streak, based on how good the opponent was designed to be. Make it clear you're doing your part in weeding out those who aren't ready for the big leagues while still allowing good trainers through.
I can't remember why but around 22 years ago when I played pokemon crystal there was this huge myth, that when you have beaten the game, you'd turn into a gym leader.
Man I remember playing Pokemon Black/White double matches with friends in high school and my Haxorus was a BEAST. They had no answer for him and he just refused to go down. Ever.
looks like a cool game, it seems like you need to spend more time exploring and def get some items over buildings (trainer battles give income too right?), are the tms on the ground places that could maybe have helped?
The concept is incredible, but I think it really needs to be worked out properly. More variation in trainers, access to more than just 1 TM, and just more optimatization.
Some cool ideas here. I hope Pokémon company is paying attention to these fan games. Imagine a main game where you’re a gym leader fighting for relevance and ultimately getting promoted to Elite Four??
Hey there! I absolutely loved the video and your commentary, it’s super cool to see this kind of a perspective on Pokémon games and I’m glad you delivered it well! Just one piece of criticism from me; with formats like these it would be super handy to have a day counter somewhere on-screen (you could always have the typical Pokemon overlay where it displays your current party, etc.). Otherwise, this is an amazing video! Keep up the good work 👍
I'd make a few changes to the game. I'd make a system that level caps your Pokemon depending on the "rank" of the trainer (1-8 badges). I'd also make it to where certain pokemon with higher base stats become use-able at certain ranks in your gym. I'd grant multiple TM options to represent your gym if possible. Also, I'd make it to where you could qualify to be an elite four member or even a champion. I'd want to expand map design, so you can make the town your own theme. I'd also have it to where you can customize your gym a bit and have Jr Gym members that the trainers face (as a way to filter out weaker trainers). You'd get passive rep, and the way it would work is depending on the quality of your trainee their would be a certain percent chance they would auto complete a trainer for you.
hope gamefreak made this series come in life after scarlet and violet. its awesome that you just manage gym and if unbeatable that we can manage poke league insane
Played through and completed the game. It feels like an Alpha game with real potential. Story is good, bit more content to break up the repetition would be great. I would replace the build your own city thing with customise your Gym. And if they could find a way for more interaction with your gym trainers then thats it would be done.
Yoooo I ALSO did Dragon types but I started with Deino and I managed to find a Charmander and was immediately able to teach it Dragon Claw. Did NOT know about the Dragon type Aron line, that was a nice catch on your part. Dragonite, Kommo-o, Dragapult, and Haxorus rounded out my team. Also I didn't lose to Edgar even though he had a Hydreigon of his own. Bliss came in clutch with training for sure. It's a very fun game and I highly recommend to all pokemon fans.
My Guy i don't know which system i Can use in order to play to this game. Can you tell me how do you play this game ? Like on mobile ? With which application plz ?
@@muimhd7267 think it's made with RPGmaker in which case it's a .exe filetype, any laptop or computer can run it because it's hardware requirements are: potato or better EDIT: googled and saw it's made with Pokemon Essentials 18.1, pardon. But you still need a potato or better.
I like this concept as a change of pace with pokemon, work on when exactly the difficulty ramps up and add more variety in pokemon trainers who come challenge you, and you get a nice time sink to be real
you need to explore dude, i beat Edgar with less level under 30 days of the game with Psychic (was horrible, all the trainers had bite, assurance, Garchomp has Dark pulse and all the motorbikes had at least one dark type). And for sure spend money on healing items.
This is amazing! I thought I was the only person that really wanted a game where you can be a Gym leader! Of course I had no idea how to pull it off just sitting and waiting for others to come but they did in great style! Really awesome
Im in day 35 and getting level 50 opponents at gym + beaten Edgar at day 30... I think youre getting low level opponents because you do not explore the world at all and not meeting the stronger trainers in the wild... If you loose when youre kindnapped you get back to your "cell", fully healed + beaten gang members stay beaten. Only when you fight with Edgar its game over when you loose. I defeated him like on 10th try... (got to him with cca lvl 43 team, got to Blissey up to lvl 50) It was fun when you met hiker Paul, you can meet him in the wild at start of Badlands, and when you get to lvl 4 in gym his Tyraninar get to lvl 99 :D
This is a game that seems interesting in principle and boring in practice. This does not strike me as the kind of game meant to be a main binge game, more of a side thing to do. But I do find the idea of running a gym to be an interesting concept.
Here's a couple of early game tips if you want to play this game yourself since there aren't really any guides or anything for it. 1: Be careful about which type you choose. While its definitely tempting to pick a notoriously powerful type like Dragon or Psychic, you gotta remember that the early games for those types even in normal pokemon games, can be a nightmare. Here, that choice is especially neutering because you are locked into those types, and the areas to catch more are out of your league at the beginning of the game (25-30 when you are still in the teens). 2: Be aware of a potential softlock early game. Catch rates are pretty low in this game, and money is hard to come-by until you start getting decent leveled trainers coming to your gym. If you are really unlucky and waste a bunch of pokeballs or you get beaten by overworld trainers/pokemon too much, you can basically make the game unbeatable. This can happen with any starting type, but is especially easy to do with types like Dragon, Psychic or Steel because it can be hard to find more pokemon of those types that you can actually beat or catch, as well as it being difficult to find off-type pokemon who can learn your gym's signature move. In general, be really careful picking a type that is weak to Dark type, since the first story battle in the game is a dude using a poochyena, and it can really suck trying to beat that thing if its immune to or taking very little damage, from your signature move. 3:If you solve the riddle inside of the Psychic cave and advance all the way to the end of it and get out, you will find a lone house with a woman in it. Answer her questions carefully as she will give you a starter pokemon from which ever generation you choose based on your answers to her questions. That being said, it can be a pain if you choose certain types, as those starters can't learn your gym's signature move so they aren't usable at all in the challenge. 4: Most Pokemon you can choose as your starter are not available in the overworld if you don't choose them. This sucks a lot as some of the starters are pretty good. This also directly nerfs some other types, for example, if you choose Dragon, you will never be able to get a Kingdra or if you choose psychic, you will never be able to get a Gardevoir. A Steel Gym can never have Lucario because Riolu is a Fighting starter, a Water Gym can't get Lapras because its an Ice Starter, so forth and so on. 5: The best type is probably Ground. All Ground starters are pretty good, except Diglett, and it gets one of the best moves in the series, Earthquake, as its signature that basically every half-way decent pokemon in the game can learn, which also allows you to use Torterra from the woman in Tip 3 for coverage against water types, not to mention there's basically no grass type enemies in the game in general. Also the "Ground Type Area" is really easy to find and fairly close to the main hub so you don't have to worry about fighting level 30s with your level 14 phanpy or Hippopoptas to catch new pokemon (a big problem with some other types as mentioned before). 6: Set up your gym as soon as possible. The game won't let you do your first gym fights until you have three team members, which is kinda dumb since we see actual gym leaders only using one or two pokemon all the time. The faster you do this, the faster you can do actual story stuff. Even once you do this, money can be really tight because enemy trainers will still only be like level 5 or 6 until you beat like 10-15 of them, so money is gonna be super tight. Unless your team is really underleveled you shouldn't have to worry too much about soft-locking yourself from not being able to catch more pokemon, but you do have to be careful to not lose too many times in a row or its a Game Over if you are too weak. Better to overlevel than under. Once the Blissey Lady shows up, you are officially past the hard part of the game (hard as in you can accidentally soft-lock yourself and not hard as in the trainers being strong, there's some pretty nasty trainers near the end of the story lol). 7: The person you choose to represent your gym does something different. For example, if you choose the Gym Girl, you get more reputation faster and also get a free gym trainer (the gym boy who has a crush on her) but you will face those "better" trainers (the ones who randomly have stronger pokemon) more often with her. The Gym Boy will give you lower reputation growth, and the professional Gym guy (the Fresh Water dude you see in the actual games) will give you balanced growth. Finally, this game can be kinda tedious and grindy I'm sad to say. Basically everything I said above can be avoided with enough grinding and overleveling once you have 3 pokemon.
I actually did a dragon play through and I didn’t lose once when I got to egar, I actually caught a Jangmo-o as my 3rd pokemon and a axew as my second which I got really lucky to catch, I started with Gible and then got a Agron and a dreepy I also used a tyranatar, because my Garchomp had a jolly nature and sand veil once I got the blissey trainer unlocked I just grinded that and grinded Tms you can buy trs from another city if you use the vacation function
I did fairy and it was kinda rough having just my ralts in the beginning but I later found out you could catch more fairies towards the east of the city you're gym leader in and I soon managed to build a team that I like.
Another cool concept for a Pokemon game! I feel like this coulda been done a lot better but, it's still pretty cool and you can see its a good starting point for what future romhacks/fangames could do with the concept
This is the first video of yours I've ever been recommended, and this game looks super interesting, so I'm here for a new experience and excited! Here we go! Edit: Absolutely fantastic video, and what an adventure! Some incredibly close calls, and it's wild how things came to an end! Take this Subscribe! Edit 2: My best friend and his cousin are hooked on this game now, thanks for the introduction!
I've tried to play this a few times but it gets stuck on "Gym leader registration: Starting... Please be patient..." I've left it on this up to half hour multiple times sat here and overnight before :( Not sure what to do.
They should create a way to have champions in the pokemon game of Scarlet and Violet. Have a way for battles to commence and a new challenger arrives to take the throne. Have it for VGC and also Singles. A set time will arrive so the champion has to be ready to defend his or her crown. Arrange it in a way that it can be possible and they can enjoy an elite four format in the game. But among real life players.
I’m totally expecting there to eventually be a trainer rolling up with level 20s to your rank 0 gym all made to counter whatever type you chose later down the line
This would drive me nuts. This is a survival game essentially (if you wanted to be an undefeated gym leader that is) and you are just thrown garbage evs the entire time despite having an excellent starter and great choices for mons. As I watch you get in around the late 40s with your team you kept, I can see you suffer from lack of attack because all the HP Evs plus the random ones you fought. Would be nice to choose what Blissey gives you.
This would make for an awesome pokemon game. Imagine a mix of Animal Crossing's citybuilding and recruiting, with Persona's social aspects. Could be pretty awesome with a focus on progression and customization
You can change in every member of your team vs a single blissey and they all get 4-5 digit XP. Also 2x building 4 to 1x building five maxes out your daily earnings. Don't need any other building type.
Warning because I lost all my progress because of this- which is simply to MAKE SURE YOU SAVE. Why? If you lose a certain battle, it reverts you to your *last save*. Saving some headache for new players
Dark is super rough. You can't really access the area with Dark pokemon until you get to the badlands. I was running a Mawile for the longest time with my starter.
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What type would you make your gym if you had the chance? Let me know!
Let's try and smash 100 likes!
@hdvee I chose Dragon, and I swept him with Shift Gear Aggron. I had healing items, which made it easier. You not buying any was the most painful part of this.
I tried to be a normal type gym leader it was easy since normal types are tanky
probably psychic type
Normal or bug
Why I can't play it on GBA it says unrecognized file
You remember that electric type Gym leader that lost his passion and went up to hang out in the lighthouse in one of the pokemon games?
Seeing you fight the same trainers over and over, I think I understand what he meant.
Volkner! Not sure id want to be a Gym leader if it was that monotonous!
@@OGHydraa that's his name! I couldn't remember it and it was bugging me.
I just finished shining pearl so this is a fair comparison. But agreed. Though the way gym leaders work in pokemon has always been weird tbh. Since arguably most of them should have just really strong mons lol. Granted, it wouldn't be an actual game if they all had level 50s and stuff either
@@ragnazero1971 the Origins anime actually explains this - gym leaders use pokémon relative to the skill level of the trainer they're facing, and in game this translates to their respective level
@@mdpredio ahhh okie, that makes a lot more sense.
there should be a canon pokemon game like this honestly
No the plot is well-written it can’t be canon
Maybe a spin-off game
Yes
@@saadinhalf The plot is not really the most important thing in mainline PkMn games, I'd say you noticed that already! Pokémon really has so many other facettes where there's actually always somehow something in it for everyone, making these gameplays superb for most! If you don't like it in general, that's okay too, many other good games out there. I'm sure there's something in there for you my friend!
We need a pokemon journeys game where we can go to all the regions
There used to be a myth when I was a kid that when you beat the elite 4, 100x you would be granted a gym of your own. Guess who got trolled....
thats really sad tbh.
U probably shouldnt tell others that...
Ah, the classic pokemon rumors as kids, can't beat em.
me and my friends would always come up with ideas for Pokemon games, Gym Leader and a grunt for Team Rocket were always at the top of the list.
The rumor I fell for was that if you beat the elite four 12 times in fire red or leaf green, mew will appear in the cerulean cave 🫠
if a pokemon faints enough, it will end up deciding to leave you and be gone forever :(
Fun fact: that Rough Rider that keeps you prisoner will give you infinite soda pops and lum berries until you escape.
Nicest kidnapper I’ve seen. 10/10 wouldn’t wanna be kidnapped again but if I didn’t have a choice I’d def want them to be my guard again.
5 stars
These are the starters of each type.
Bug: dwebble, scyther, larvesta. Sig move: x-scissor
Dark: sneasel, stunky, houndour
Sig move: dark pulse
Dragon: gible, bagon, Dieno
Sig move: dragon claw
Electric: pichu, shinx, joltik
Sig move: thunderbolt
Fairy: ralts(female), togepi, cleffa
Sig move: dazzling gleem
Fighting: riolu, tyrogue, makuhita
Sig move: brick break
Fire: vulpix, growlithe, magby
Sig move: flamethrower
Flying: gligar, doduo, noibat
Sig move: acrobatics
Ghost: misdreavus, duskull, drifloon
Sig move: shadow ball
Grass: cottonee, cherubi, petilil
Sig move: energy ball
Ground: Hippopatas, diglett, phanpy
Sig move: earthquake
Ice: swinub, bergmite, lapras
Sig move: ice beam
Normal: eevee, munchlax, kangaskhan
Sig move: return
Poison: nidoran F, nidoran M, skorupi
Sig move: poison jab
Psychic: solosis, sigilyph, bronzor
Rock: onix, rhyhorn, aerodactyl
Sig move: rock slide
Steel: shieldon, ferrosead, aron
Sig move: flash cannon
Water: buizel, horsea, chinchou
Sig move scald
Most of these pokemon are unable to be found in the wild so if you want a sun team for a fire gym choose vulpx an wait till you can vacation to get you ability changed. Ground is by far the strongest start with a sand stream Hippopatas, sandshrew and wooper and there are close to no grass type trainers in the game.
how about sig move for psychic?
@@kylealpajaroabiera3357 sig move for psychic is psychic.
This will make the game so much easier thank you! I was going to use a dark type team but didn't know if you could catch the starters in the wild.
thx this helps a lot😇
Can you still use eevee once it evolves into one of the eeveelutions so long as it still has return?
As a game concept, the trainers you invite to hang out in your gym should screen out the weaker trainers.
Like, you could really shoot yourself in the foot by inviting a strong trainer too early, who wouldn't let anyone below level 40 pass while your own team is in the 25-30 level range.
It could also make THE MAIN PART OF THE GAME more fun, instead of pointlessly using Blisseys as punching bags.
also you should be able to give them pokemons that you catched, so you would have way more use to them
@@yuri_cobaia And they could do the same to you. You could bond with your trainers over Pokemon. Good idea.
well the trainers you invite are supposed to do some damage to the incoming team before they get to you. you shouldn't have to fight your opponents at full strength
Only Carries 1 potion the whole playthrough, just like a regular gym leader
Gotta give them a chance
I think there's real promise for a type of Pokemon game where you have to play the role of a gym leader, but you start out in a town on a low route. As a result, you have a level cap on how strong the team you bring to your gym battles can be and have to beat scrub trainers with a level 10 - 15 team of two - three pokemon. Outside of gym battles you can have your actual team of pokemon and you use those to go to regional ranking matches where you square off against other gym leaders to see where each of your gyms gets seeded. Higher seeds get to have stronger gym teams and start attracting gym trainers that weed out the plebs for you. Once you hit 1st seed, you can start going for the regional equivalent of the elite four, topping out at regional champion.
Honestly the fact that we don't have a game like this is a bit sad. Like we have the ranger games and other spin off titles to experience various other roles in the pokemon universe, so why not the ever present gym leader? I rather like the concept you thought up there, feels a lot like the progression of the standard pokemon game, but adjusted for the beurocracy of ascending ranks as a gym leader, A+ stuff, I would definitely play a game with those mechanics.
Sounds like a solid idea would make a good mmo type pokemon game, as gym leaders would constantly be changing and would keep you on your toes as a trainer.
So a regular Pokemon game?
What would be cool and was hinted at in Pokémon Origin : gym leaders have different teams depending the amount of badges the challengers has. Like, you can't just wipe people with a Tyranitar, you have to have viable strategies not only with your core team but also with the two poor geodudes you throw at newbies, with interesting yet restrained movesets and items.
Pretty much confirmed in Sword and Shield. All of the gym leaders have much higher level Pokemon in the end game dynamax battles caused by Sordward and Shielbert.
also, i dont know if levels actually exist in the pokemon universe. i mean its not like anyone levels up in the show, theres no restriction on only knowing 4 moves because pikachu knows about 50 and im pretty sure mewtwo just makes up his own attacks.
i think the levels dont necessarily represent how strong someone is physically speaking but more like they represent your teamwork between trainer and pokemon and obviously your pokemons general fitness and experience.
the difference is that they wouldnt need extra teams in the show if levels dont really exist. because the pokemon would all be relatively the same strength. thats why you could go to any gym in any order.
so, i dont think levels are real, i think its just a mechanic that the video games use to help you visualize the concept of training.
@@KugroxFour moves are a thing in the anime and manga. There were outliers back in the day but there were giant Pokemon and weird stuff too.
As for levels well there’s certainly disparities in strength, speed, toughness etc but levels as a whole aren’t technically a thing.
@@Kugrox Pokemon's levels are explicitly mentioned in the very first season of the anime.
The point, however, was to introduce a character that was a know-it-all about pokemon fighting. It was just a one-time gimmick.
Restrictions proper to the game aren't referenced in the series because what makes shonens fun is when fights look cool and are won because of astute and creative improvements that take the audience by surprise.
When the improvements that allows to win the fight merely comes from training or deus ex machinas that make character A's number becoming higher than character B's and there is nothing more to it, it turns into Dragon Ball Z instead.
@@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059 If 4 moves are a thing in the Anime and Manga it's because it originated in the games. A Charmeleon who knows leer growl flamethrower and fire blast doesn't just lose the ability to slash with his claws if he so wishes. Or if growl or leer isn't on the list it doesn't mean he can't look at something mean or growl. It's just a game mechanic.
1:01 "You gave 40 dollars to the winner" lmao it's just a wild rattata. Who would give money to a random pokemon to flee
Maybe this concept isn't great for an actual game but I'd love to see some kind of "Gym Maker" in a new pokemon game.
You would make your own "minigame" layout, place trainers by yourself, give them pokemon from your PC, make your own leader or fight as a leader and share the gym online.
Not for a main series, but a spin off definitely, kind of like a harvest moon game were you go day by day to build your farm, in this case your city.
Like Omega Rubys Hidden Bases?
i feel like them making this a spin off like pokemon stadium would be great because it wouldn’t be main line, it would have the battle sim, and probably be really fun
@@Sunaki1000 Exactly what I was thinking. Loved that mechanic in my Alpha Saphire copy!
Yeah this kind of reminds me of the secret bases my friends and I used to make back in ORAS
the one thing that this game needs is actual gym fighters in your gym that weed out the weak trainers, you know, just like how most gyms are. Could make it like a tower defense where you can customize the path to you, use AI to predict how battles will go and see if they defeat the fighters you pick.
You’d get passive income from that too
The trainers could also weaken trainers so when they reach you, their Pokémon are missing some HP.
You _literally_ never stopped talking for thirty one minutes. I'm not even mad, I'm pretty impressed honestly.
that killed the vibe tbh, rambling with 0 speech spoiling everything
I mean it's edited that way...
If you can get promoted to the elite 4 that would make a perfect post game for a mainline game. Also world tournaments every now and then would be cool too
"You cannot use more than 3 pokemon"
Oh so we're an X/Y gym leader huehuehuehuehue
HDvee: I don't have money for potions
Also HDvee 4 seconds earlier: I donate potions every day
Great video. No intro, no trailers, just gameplay. I really liked that all games are tested and played before our eyes, this helped me pick a game immediately. Thanks 😍
This really makes you realize even gym leaders go through the typical 9-5 workday. They have to make time for themselves
Which is crazy since a lot of gym leaders have side jobs
Maybe it doesn't pay as well as our 10 year old player character's believe? Like elementary school teachers tbh fml😢
This is just what it feels like to be placed on the ai trainers side as the player gets infinite healing items
Nooo way!!! I did not expect that ending lol such a strong boss.
Dude your tempo, commentary, and floor were very entertaining and engaging. 30 minutes went by like nothing
I tried this game using ghost type. The beginning was not easy for me. There was one trainer that kept beating me and I had to over level and hunt down other types that could use shadow ball till I was farther in the game. There was also one trainer not in the gym that I had to keep avoiding early because they had a normal type and all my attacking moves were ghost 😅
Did you have to do something to get a gengar
@@SteelGnat I caught a gengar at night in the even badder lands area. I never used ghastly/haunter so I dont know what you have to do to evolve it. I honestly didnt use it much cause I already had a pretty good team by then.
Which emulator did you use
I actually did choose Ghost as well, and you're screwed if you fought the early trainers since All I had was Duskull Astonish... That does absolutely nothing to normal/flying type. On the plus side the first time I fought the Hiker in badlands he only had Trash.
@@Mr.Domino_the_great
Joiplay works good on Android
You know, why hasn’t someone made an official version of this game? This is an awesome concept for Pokémon that’s been unexplored, kinda like getting to play the evil teams that exist in the universe.
No ones done it because its not all that interesting by itself in practice
Ok as a side mode to play every now and then but if it was the only thing it gets pretty boring fast
@@NarumiButterflyIt could be good for postgame, basically like this but with only the stronger NPC trainers who have full teams and can beat the elite 4. Then have the former champion return to his hometown so you can still battle.
theoretical “thinking too much about pokémon logic” thing:
after a certain point, if a gym leader is beat so many times, wouldn’t the pokémon league intervene and be like “hey….youre trash, what’s going on? youre really sending out a lvl 7 geodude and a lvl 9 onix?”
This is something that seems missing from this game - surely part of the point of having a gym is that *some* people should actually pass your challenge! I would like to have seen some exploration of the idea that yes, you should lose some proportion of your matches, but not while compromising the challenge your gym is offering, and in some way selecting the trainers that get their badge and get to progress to the next part of their journey.
@@sofieselnes477 Imagine if you got reputation gain for losing your first battle in the middle of a win streak, based on how good the opponent was designed to be. Make it clear you're doing your part in weeding out those who aren't ready for the big leagues while still allowing good trainers through.
I can't remember why but around 22 years ago when I played pokemon crystal there was this huge myth, that when you have beaten the game, you'd turn into a gym leader.
Man I remember playing Pokemon Black/White double matches with friends in high school and my Haxorus was a BEAST. They had no answer for him and he just refused to go down. Ever.
looks like a cool game, it seems like you need to spend more time exploring and def get some items over buildings (trainer battles give income too right?), are the tms on the ground places that could maybe have helped?
The concept is incredible, but I think it really needs to be worked out properly. More variation in trainers, access to more than just 1 TM, and just more optimatization.
I’m kinda amazed that you didn’t use shift gear with aggron while Edgar was heal spamming there
Same actually
This actually triggered me. He wouldn’t have been flinched at all if he had used it just once
Lol I got so triggered seeing that like why aren't you using Shift Gear
Some cool ideas here. I hope Pokémon company is paying attention to these fan games. Imagine a main game where you’re a gym leader fighting for relevance and ultimately getting promoted to Elite Four??
They Pasing Attention. They come Claim and shut the fangames down
@@egegege-e7g lol. Good point.
Hey there! I absolutely loved the video and your commentary, it’s super cool to see this kind of a perspective on Pokémon games and I’m glad you delivered it well!
Just one piece of criticism from me; with formats like these it would be super handy to have a day counter somewhere on-screen (you could always have the typical Pokemon overlay where it displays your current party, etc.).
Otherwise, this is an amazing video! Keep up the good work 👍
I'd make a few changes to the game. I'd make a system that level caps your Pokemon depending on the "rank" of the trainer (1-8 badges). I'd also make it to where certain pokemon with higher base stats become use-able at certain ranks in your gym.
I'd grant multiple TM options to represent your gym if possible.
Also, I'd make it to where you could qualify to be an elite four member or even a champion.
I'd want to expand map design, so you can make the town your own theme.
I'd also have it to where you can customize your gym a bit and have Jr Gym members that the trainers face (as a way to filter out weaker trainers). You'd get passive rep, and the way it would work is depending on the quality of your trainee their would be a certain percent chance they would auto complete a trainer for you.
hope gamefreak made this series come in life after scarlet and violet.
its awesome that you just manage gym and if unbeatable that we can manage poke league insane
Played through and completed the game.
It feels like an Alpha game with real potential.
Story is good, bit more content to break up the repetition would be great.
I would replace the build your own city thing with customise your Gym. And if they could find a way for more interaction with your gym trainers then thats it would be done.
What's the game name?
@@frxstmystic7692 - This gym of mine
@@MadMalMan how did u get the game
Yoooo I ALSO did Dragon types but I started with Deino and I managed to find a Charmander and was immediately able to teach it Dragon Claw. Did NOT know about the Dragon type Aron line, that was a nice catch on your part. Dragonite, Kommo-o, Dragapult, and Haxorus rounded out my team. Also I didn't lose to Edgar even though he had a Hydreigon of his own. Bliss came in clutch with training for sure. It's a very fun game and I highly recommend to all pokemon fans.
My Guy i don't know which system i Can use in order to play to this game. Can you tell me how do you play this game ? Like on mobile ? With which application plz ?
@@muimhd7267 think it's made with RPGmaker in which case it's a .exe filetype, any laptop or computer can run it because it's hardware requirements are: potato or better
EDIT: googled and saw it's made with Pokemon Essentials 18.1, pardon. But you still need a potato or better.
@@muimhd7267 read the description. There is a link to download the room hack. Then you only need an emulator
@@muimhd7267 pc? How else would it work
I like this concept as a change of pace with pokemon, work on when exactly the difficulty ramps up and add more variety in pokemon trainers who come challenge you, and you get a nice time sink to be real
You missed out on a few opportunities to Shift Gear boost your Aggron in that final battle.
HE MISSED PLENTY OF SHIFT GEARS MORE THAN THAT BATTLE LMFAOO
you need to explore dude, i beat Edgar with less level under 30 days of the game with Psychic (was horrible, all the trainers had bite, assurance, Garchomp has Dark pulse and all the motorbikes had at least one dark type). And for sure spend money on healing items.
I think this could be a good basis for a SimCity/farm simulator spinoff if they ever decided to make one.
This is amazing! I thought I was the only person that really wanted a game where you can be a Gym leader!
Of course I had no idea how to pull it off just sitting and waiting for others to come but they did in great style!
Really awesome
The game crashed a ton for me to the point where I couldn't realistically continue playing but I had a ton of fun making a sand steel team.
That “ let me use this potion and soda pop “ had me rolling😂
Dude literally replaced protect with glare 💀
☠️
I'm sorry but the floating old man made me laugh so much.
Im in day 35 and getting level 50 opponents at gym + beaten Edgar at day 30...
I think youre getting low level opponents because you do not explore the world at all and not meeting the stronger trainers in the wild...
If you loose when youre kindnapped you get back to your "cell", fully healed + beaten gang members stay beaten.
Only when you fight with Edgar its game over when you loose. I defeated him like on 10th try... (got to him with cca lvl 43 team, got to Blissey up to lvl 50)
It was fun when you met hiker Paul, you can meet him in the wild at start of Badlands, and when you get to lvl 4 in gym his Tyraninar get to lvl 99 :D
Great work on your 100 days! Only 7600 more hours untill you become a certified professional!
This is a game that seems interesting in principle and boring in practice. This does not strike me as the kind of game meant to be a main binge game, more of a side thing to do. But I do find the idea of running a gym to be an interesting concept.
Here's a couple of early game tips if you want to play this game yourself since there aren't really any guides or anything for it.
1: Be careful about which type you choose. While its definitely tempting to pick a notoriously powerful type like Dragon or Psychic, you gotta remember that the early games for those types even in normal pokemon games, can be a nightmare. Here, that choice is especially neutering because you are locked into those types, and the areas to catch more are out of your league at the beginning of the game (25-30 when you are still in the teens).
2: Be aware of a potential softlock early game. Catch rates are pretty low in this game, and money is hard to come-by until you start getting decent leveled trainers coming to your gym. If you are really unlucky and waste a bunch of pokeballs or you get beaten by overworld trainers/pokemon too much, you can basically make the game unbeatable. This can happen with any starting type, but is especially easy to do with types like Dragon, Psychic or Steel because it can be hard to find more pokemon of those types that you can actually beat or catch, as well as it being difficult to find off-type pokemon who can learn your gym's signature move. In general, be really careful picking a type that is weak to Dark type, since the first story battle in the game is a dude using a poochyena, and it can really suck trying to beat that thing if its immune to or taking very little damage, from your signature move.
3:If you solve the riddle inside of the Psychic cave and advance all the way to the end of it and get out, you will find a lone house with a woman in it. Answer her questions carefully as she will give you a starter pokemon from which ever generation you choose based on your answers to her questions. That being said, it can be a pain if you choose certain types, as those starters can't learn your gym's signature move so they aren't usable at all in the challenge.
4: Most Pokemon you can choose as your starter are not available in the overworld if you don't choose them. This sucks a lot as some of the starters are pretty good. This also directly nerfs some other types, for example, if you choose Dragon, you will never be able to get a Kingdra or if you choose psychic, you will never be able to get a Gardevoir. A Steel Gym can never have Lucario because Riolu is a Fighting starter, a Water Gym can't get Lapras because its an Ice Starter, so forth and so on.
5: The best type is probably Ground. All Ground starters are pretty good, except Diglett, and it gets one of the best moves in the series, Earthquake, as its signature that basically every half-way decent pokemon in the game can learn, which also allows you to use Torterra from the woman in Tip 3 for coverage against water types, not to mention there's basically no grass type enemies in the game in general. Also the "Ground Type Area" is really easy to find and fairly close to the main hub so you don't have to worry about fighting level 30s with your level 14 phanpy or Hippopoptas to catch new pokemon (a big problem with some other types as mentioned before).
6: Set up your gym as soon as possible. The game won't let you do your first gym fights until you have three team members, which is kinda dumb since we see actual gym leaders only using one or two pokemon all the time. The faster you do this, the faster you can do actual story stuff. Even once you do this, money can be really tight because enemy trainers will still only be like level 5 or 6 until you beat like 10-15 of them, so money is gonna be super tight. Unless your team is really underleveled you shouldn't have to worry too much about soft-locking yourself from not being able to catch more pokemon, but you do have to be careful to not lose too many times in a row or its a Game Over if you are too weak. Better to overlevel than under. Once the Blissey Lady shows up, you are officially past the hard part of the game (hard as in you can accidentally soft-lock yourself and not hard as in the trainers being strong, there's some pretty nasty trainers near the end of the story lol).
7: The person you choose to represent your gym does something different. For example, if you choose the Gym Girl, you get more reputation faster and also get a free gym trainer (the gym boy who has a crush on her) but you will face those "better" trainers (the ones who randomly have stronger pokemon) more often with her. The Gym Boy will give you lower reputation growth, and the professional Gym guy (the Fresh Water dude you see in the actual games) will give you balanced growth.
Finally, this game can be kinda tedious and grindy I'm sad to say. Basically everything I said above can be avoided with enough grinding and overleveling once you have 3 pokemon.
I can confirm this hackrom is cool, just don't use normal types because the encounter list is terrible (you only have one special attacker in drampa)
Lol and here i am the idiot that chose Normal. Just wanted the Eevee.
Job instructions: “As the town’s gym leader, your job is to ruin kids’ dreams.”
This is repetitive, but it's such a breath of fresh air to the regular pokemon grind
I actually did a dragon play through and I didn’t lose once when I got to egar, I actually caught a Jangmo-o as my 3rd pokemon and a axew as my second which I got really lucky to catch, I started with Gible and then got a Agron and a dreepy I also used a tyranatar, because my Garchomp had a jolly nature and sand veil once I got the blissey trainer unlocked I just grinded that and grinded Tms you can buy trs from another city if you use the vacation function
That Aron at 9:15 was shiny!
That’s what I came here to say lol
This looks rather interesting to try, if I have to pick, it would either be electric, flying or ghost
ice type would be hardcore
I did fairy and it was kinda rough having just my ralts in the beginning but I later found out you could catch more fairies towards the east of the city you're gym leader in and I soon managed to build a team that I like.
24:55 summed up my first play through of moon with my chargeabug against the ground kahoona with her mudstail
Another cool concept for a Pokemon game! I feel like this coulda been done a lot better but, it's still pretty cool and you can see its a good starting point for what future romhacks/fangames could do with the concept
That old man isn’t an old man! It’s TOM NOOK WITH AN OLD MAN COSTUME ON WHEELS! You have to leave before he has you in indentured servitude!
I guess that's what you get not either getting healing items or leveling like mad lol.
Why do I love Pokémon videos like this so much. It’s so neat
This is the first video of yours I've ever been recommended, and this game looks super interesting, so I'm here for a new experience and excited! Here we go!
Edit: Absolutely fantastic video, and what an adventure! Some incredibly close calls, and it's wild how things came to an end! Take this Subscribe!
Edit 2: My best friend and his cousin are hooked on this game now, thanks for the introduction!
What game is it?
@@dayneporter8180 The game listed in the description on the video lol. I'm about to download it to try it myself.
I've tried to play this a few times but it gets stuck on "Gym leader registration: Starting... Please be patient..."
I've left it on this up to half hour multiple times sat here and overnight before :( Not sure what to do.
Another nice chill video matt... keep up the good content 👌
"Get out of my town"
Said the biker calmly
They should create a way to have champions in the pokemon game of Scarlet and Violet. Have a way for battles to commence and a new challenger arrives to take the throne. Have it for VGC and also Singles. A set time will arrive so the champion has to be ready to defend his or her crown. Arrange it in a way that it can be possible and they can enjoy an elite four format in the game. But among real life players.
Well. As a Psychic Leader. I swept him. Lmao.
Does this game have EVs? If so repeatedly catching and switching out New Drampas doesn't seem like a good idea.
Imagine you've just turned 10yo and want to become a trainer but your hometown is place of the eighth gym
game link?? Its not in the descirption..
I’m totally expecting there to eventually be a trainer rolling up with level 20s to your rank 0 gym all made to counter whatever type you chose later down the line
Matt destroying dreams is just great. Lol.
thank you for linking the game! Gonna tear through with ghost typing
That rattata was like a dark souls boss lol
brooo i love how big your youtube has gotten! i used to watch you for sword and shield news.
This would drive me nuts. This is a survival game essentially (if you wanted to be an undefeated gym leader that is) and you are just thrown garbage evs the entire time despite having an excellent starter and great choices for mons. As I watch you get in around the late 40s with your team you kept, I can see you suffer from lack of attack because all the HP Evs plus the random ones you fought. Would be nice to choose what Blissey gives you.
All this is missing is the ability to choose a trainer other than OG red.
8:51 hold on hold on, isnt this a shiny aron?
No dumbass, it's a fucking exclusive regional variant, DONT ASK STUPID QUESTIONS
No.
It's apparently a dragon type Aron.
This would make for an awesome pokemon game. Imagine a mix of Animal Crossing's citybuilding and recruiting, with Persona's social aspects. Could be pretty awesome with a focus on progression and customization
The "new Aron form" is literally just a shiny one with dragon plopped onto it
+ red eyes, + shoulder pads, + claw tail
@@alcejaylos.4257 Shiny Aron already has red eyes.
@@sus1984-i5n oh, right
Love this! Excited to play this when i get home! Subbed thanks for the vid!
I thought the aron was shiny at first
It definitely is
You can change in every member of your team vs a single blissey and they all get 4-5 digit XP. Also 2x building 4 to 1x building five maxes out your daily earnings. Don't need any other building type.
is there a rom hack of this?
Did.. ...you think this was an official Pokemon game and not a rom hack ?
@@snakejazz no you numbskull its a windows exe so you need a rom to play with an emulator
It’s a fan game
@@assassinplayz4286 that you can only play as an exe bruh
@@2_simpleand ? Should run on every Garbage pc
It's so funny to me to see the gym leader lose to a wild rattata
Further proof that the ROM community can outdo Game Freak consistently.
Wait if the biker has two Dark-types how the heck do you beat him if you chose a Psychic-type lol
Quite a fun game. I'm tempted to try it out myself.
"I love the combat, the animations are amazing, this game is awesome!"
What's this game called?
It's called This Gym of Mine.
@@CoffeeSteve7224 thank you
I had no idea this existed. Big thanks to the youtube algorithm for throwing me this way, I'll immediately play this.
Warning because I lost all my progress because of this- which is simply to MAKE SURE YOU SAVE. Why? If you lose a certain battle, it reverts you to your *last save*.
Saving some headache for new players
Hmmmm.... Good info
That's crazy how real and authentic he made this look
Dark would be my type definitely
Dark is super rough. You can't really access the area with Dark pokemon until you get to the badlands. I was running a Mawile for the longest time with my starter.
No one gives a fuck
Its so sad you get to be champ and never actually defend your title. Thank god newer games fix that
I feel like Drampa is staring into my soul with that sprite
I chose Dragon and Gible as my starter. I really love Garchomp.
where did u find teammates, i started playing and i cant find any dragons
@@Avisandum2607 Found most of them in the Dragons Den. That is one of the ideal places to get teammates if you choose Dragon
@@timmyphillipi4566 thanks!
@@Avisandum2607 dude didn't even watch the vid, HE IS USING DRAGON TYPES AND HE SAID HE IS GOING TO DRAGONS DEN, HOW ARE YOU THIS DEAF
Oh I can tell alright
No ridiculous happy ending .. I Love It!!!
How about you give credit to the makers...
Imagine if there was a chance to encounter a 'main character' trainer.
Yo! This is actually a sick concept! 😂