Is Eri the Gundam Aerial? [Gundam Theory]
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I don't want it to be true
put your tinfoil hat until its proven true
that's the best way to cope xd
No I don’t think they are really that dark or should I say I don’t want to believe that they are actually that dark
HARUKA TOOKU NI 😫
@@kelvin8369 Kelvin, please never forget this is Gundam. It won't be done for cheap shock like your average grimdark anime, but it absolutely can get as dark as you can imagine. I hope it doesn't because I love the characters too much but...
What if Sulleta WAS Eri. And "Sulleta" is a mask Eri uses to hide her trauma?
As of today this video gains the status as a CONFIRMED THEORY. Good job dude
how can a child be a whole massive Gundam?
@@sanguinestaff4556 they talked about it in one of the episodes but the child’s soul got put into a data cloud or smth??? and then into the gundum which is her body now and without it the soul will go into nothingness
@@IVY-eo6zd then what about the human bodies, and where did they get suletta's soul from
@@sanguinestaff4556 I'm guessing ep 18 will help a little.
@@iExploder thank you, it does
I just came from episode 14, I can't believe it was so clear for a lot of people that Eri and Suletta were two different characters, I always assumed it was something inside the Aerial, but not Eri... ERI AI
THAT EPISODE BROKE ME
If it turns out to be true, it would fit the theme of how parents view/use their children for selfish reasons. Jeturk views Guel as an asset to make his company look better and to secure a position of power, never once asking about his well being and later disowns him when he fails to accomplish certain tasks. Miorine's father views her as an asset for similar reasons, Elan was viewed as a lab rat, and Suletta is a tool for Prospera's revenge. Sadly the idea of parents using their kids and viewing them as tools to fulfill their wants is too common in the real world. A lot of parents will parade their kids like prized possessions to brag about, especially if the child is doing well in something, or neglect or even disown or abandon the ones who don't reach expectations.
This also is in line with running Gundam overarching themes of abuse of innocence/child abuse (basically) and what the feeling of power can cause people to do, and it takes these themes in a new direction by making them more personal and emotionally-charged on a smaller scale as character studies
I mean it still fits the theme regardless of whether the theory is true or not. She's still being used as a tool for revenge whether Eri is Suletta or Aerial.
@@corvus9359 I'm aware
Plus Eri's personality with all cheer and easy to talk with isn't the same as Suletta's shyness and fumbling.
@@onepieceswat There were no other kids on Mercury or Folkvangr, so Suletta has no experience interacting with anyone her own age. Cradle Planet also indicates that growing up, most of her interactions with other people were generally unpleasant. That's why she's cheerful and can easy talk with people she's comfortable with, but shy and fumbles her words with people she doesn't really know.
Who's here after the theory is real in episode 14?
Present
Its me
hERe
:skull:
+1 (╥﹏╥)
I can assume that when Lfrith completed her system from learning from Eri, the Lfrith made an artificial persona based on the child Eri and stayed that way.
Yeah I agree with you on that, and this is why she can make use of the bits without any draw backs, the aerial can somehow compensate for it or just not pass on the damaging effects to the pilot, thanks to its more evolved system, and the reason why it also worked with Elan
what about when the lady asked her mom if she wanted revenge for an event that took place 20+ years ago? the timeline doesnt make sense if the event mentioned was the prologue bcuz suletta would be an adult by now
@@VaderTheGoat yeah that's still a thing that needs to be addressed, but my theory is that the 21 years refers to when her mom lost her arm perhaps, and then she was saved by the doctor and had Eri/Suletta after, it's cutting it close because 17+4 =21 but hey maybe it's that or by being exposed to the Lfright/permet allowed her mom to change her memory or implant that she's actually 17 and her name is Suletta and not Eri or something like that, we'll see, hopefully we can get more answers on the next episode
@@VaderTheGoat with the missing time frame of Prologue, we cannot confirm if the 21 years started on Prologue’s year. Maybe there was a four year movement against Gund arm tech and it’s issues before Prologue in which the revenge was supposed to be completed Lfrith but was quelled as seen in Prologue.
@@TaimatCR if it is for revenge, i cant think of any other reason for her mom other than the event in the prologue.. she wouldnt be doing this simply bcs of 1 arm.. would be crazy if her daughter died too or experimented on
One thing I thought about that supports this theory is that the name AERIAL. If you know a little bit of Japanese, Aerial is pronounced as E-RI-A-RU. ERI ARU literally means "Eri is here" in Japanese.
Is this FR?
OMG!
That would be cool, but unfortunately untrue. Aerial is spelled エアリアル (E-A-RI-A-RU) in both the anime and box arts.
@@clifto5187 I mean they might have thrown that ア in there just to throw you off... I mean the name thing could be true but it's not proving the theory. Still, it WOULD be a pretty big coincidence, so it might also be a purposeful misdirection.
@@clifto5187 Even so, phonetically at least the sound of Eri/Aeri stays the same.
Also it's not unusual for the phonetics of Eri Aru to be the reference despite how it's actually written.
They could have even "misspelled" it on purpose to throw people off.
As weird as it sounds on Suletta "being on it", ironically the fanbase are calling her a Tanuki and tanukis, like foxes, are tricksters.
My guess is that Aerial is a evolved AI that has grown attached to Suletta. Aerial doesn't want Suletta to go down the path of revenge. In the prolouge story, Aerial will carry out the plot willingly but doesn't want to put Suletta in danger. Aerial is a "little" sister who wants to protect her big sister.
I don’t think she has to be /in on it/ for that theory to work. Like she’s so naive I can see her just having accepted that the bits are her sisters like Aerial is and not thinking it’s weird until she tells someone and they’re like “What. The fuck. Are you talking about????!! That’s not normal!”
Isn't it the reverse? Aerial is the older sister due to her being born prior to Suletta. She even calls Suletta "my little pilot" and is generally has a more mature personality than Suletta does. She seems to *talk down* when it comes to Suletta, but shows reverence to Elnora.
Aerial having the personality of a 21 to 25yo compared to Suletta's 17yo makes sense.
@@tomimn2233 Yes .....and no .....since Ericht called Gundam Lfrith (Aerial) as little sister
I think people call suletta "tanuki" because she ate a tomato in episode 1? Idk
@@godsstrongestvampirefucker it's because of her eyebrows.
In fact, there was a scene which Suletta couldn't recognize her supposed grandma when Mio shows video of her grandma introducing gundam tech as a medical treatment..
She was asking "Who is she?"...
Given that she was _TODDLER_ at the time of her death? Yeah, it isn't surprising. For toddlers, you need to constantly reinforce to remember who is who.
Also notice the fact that they revealed this hint in the same episode where it's focused on a clone identity crisis.
My take on the ghost children imagery is that its the representation of the Aerial's consciousness, one soul spread across each bit and the main MS. The reason it looks like little Eri is because Eri imprinted on the Lfrith when it became sentient during Prologue activation, thus using that image as an avatar.
This makes far more sense and ties more neatly into the Prologue
This makes sense. The Aerial having an extremely advanced ai that mimics a soul. Like the Tachikomas in GitS.
This leads right into my thought and others who draw an immediate parallel with Aerial and ALICE. It's a Gundam show... the Aerial is given personhood by multiple characters, it's probably sentient and it's gonna sacrifice itself for Suletta.
And what if the little Eri in the music video is not Eri but the chosen avatar of the aerial AI.
@@albertko1 reminds me of the Sandrock Gundam sacrifice itself so the pilot and others can get to space
The biggest issue I've had with the "Eri is Aerial and not Suletta" theory is that in the prologue we already see Eri talking to Lfirth like a little sister and operating the gundbits, which is consistent with how Suletta treats Aerial and how Aerial operates. So Lfrith already had a "personality" before becoming Aerial, making it redundant for Eri to be the "family" in the robot.
The only big difference between Lfrith and Aerial is that the former causes the GUND sickness and the later doesn't, which is the current mystery. Now that may be because Eri was sacrificed to offset the sickness, but there still may be another twist coming that'll explain it.
P.S. I think the 21 years may refer to the true indecent that caused Prospera to loose her arm and much of her body. During the prologue we see the mom in a photo with the doctor soon after the accident that looks like it could've been taken 8 years ago.
A better theory is shes a clone
@@rpgtimefire you could even say a silhouette or shadow of the original
@@nhaprophet So you're saying that Suletta could be a Sillouetta?
The thing is eri wasn't talking to the lfrgh the same way suletta talks to aerial. Eri talks to the lfrgh like a child talking to an imaginary friend before her grandma registers her biosignature to the lfrgh. During that scene Eri proclaims herself to be the lfgrhs older sister.
I don't think the 21 year incident is a red herring. Elnora has no intention of using the gundams for revenge during the prologue, so we know the inciting incident for her revenge plot is the prologue. There is no ambiguity about this unless there was a second incident after the prologue, which would increase eris age even more.
The biggest thing we know for sure is that aerial is the special one and it's almost definitely something unethical about it way beyond the data storm that gundams create.
Oh right.
It's possible that either the Aerial was modified and/or Suletta's constant connection to the Aerial caused an "imprint" of herself into the Gundam which made it easier to handle the Gundam than most. If the Aerial is the Lfrith, it was already established that it was somewhat sentient when Eri woke it up in the prologue. Elan didn't suffer the effects of the Permet because of the "Eri" imprinted onto the Gundam, and the imprint is only getting stronger as Suletta is put into combat situations. Hence Suletta saying that Aerial's voice is a lot louder now.
try EXAM system I think that is the way they are going. instead of putting souls in the machine now, they have a little bit each time they connect to one another until they achieve a soul for that machine.
btw, Aerial --> A(eri)al
This is where I am leaning more towards. It's more of a merged being when they are together. Which is why as a pilot she is as capable as she is. When she is not piloting she is half of who "they" are. Which would explain some of the neuroses she shows. Yet are gone once she is in Aerial.
I think that Aerial is 2nd generation Gundam. We see Eri in prologue having same weird power lines as everyone else. Just blue. But nothing like that is present when Suletta pilot Aerial. Also from short story published around the time prologue was released we know that Aerial is sentient. This also explain why Suletta talk with it all the time. Also most likely Suletta is NOT Eri unless some crap happened. Eri was 4 when prologue happened. In Episode 1, Suletta is 17. That suggest 13 years difference. But funny enough - there was 21 years time gap between prologue and Episode 1. So that would make Eri 25 today. 8 years older than Suletta is.
Also this add second meaning to the line where Suletta mother say that "she trust her child". She could be talking about Suletta. But it's also possible that she was talking about Aerial. You know... aERIal...
My theory is that either Aerial is Eri somehow or Gundams really do consume pilots like prologue suggested and Eri became one of the bits Suletta is using. This would also explain why in episode 6 we see bits as small children in the eye of other pilot.
At the end of the day - Gundam is always dark and twisted. So I'm sure there is something really bad going on that will be revealed later. There is a reason why every main villain in the series wear that dam white mask. Same mask Suletta and Eri mother is wearing.
Run, you get one, move forward you get two(daughters). My theory is that *something* happened, and Elnora had to make a diffucult choice of either running with Ericht, or giving in to the opportunity of having Aerial(daughter) + Suletta(daughter2) (that was a copy/clone of Eri). I consider that quote too out of the blue and important for it to mean only what everyone thinks it means.
There really is a possiblity that Sulleta is a clone because Elnora told Belmeria referring to Elan, "That Gundam pilot... How many have there been?" it seems like Elnora knew that Elan is a clone from the beginning.
Enhanced person number 4 is not a clone tho. Piel company just altered enhanced person number 4's face to look like the real Elan.
She also did not seem fond of the idea, being one of the main reasons why they no longer worked together.
Wouldn’t be the first time we have had clones in Gundam. Peru and her clones all the way up to Unicorn all had some connections to each other. And it wouldn’t be surprising to see the Mother snap after losing everyone but her child in the prologue. And then likely due to the absorption of Eri’s consciousness into the Gundam, the mom kept trying to clone her both to pilot and to fix her mistake of “killing” Eri. Suletta became the most stable of the clones so she was sent off to begin the moms shady revenge or whatever
Remember in the novel suletta saying there is no other kids. Is possible that all the kids were sacrificed into aerial
So Suletta is Marida Cruz but not insane, yet.
@@mocca3633 she hasn't seen a faceless nude eri and I hope it stays like that
@@mocca3633 well maybe. She certainly has a much more dynamic normal personality. Who knows if when she is pushed she might trigger some “WITCH” mode or whatever.
That would also explain her meek personality and the stuttering. Everyone else failed and Suletta is the only one that could behave somewhat closely to human being and thus was spared.
This video sure aged well, didn't it?
they sure did 😃
I think a big factor in the idea that Eri is somehow the Aerial is the child-like laughter in the last fight. The enhanced dude heard it and looked surprised.
This theory is starting to hold water for me now that episode 12 is out. It appears that "move back, gain one, move forward, gain two" phrase is a brainwashing technique. Suletta immediately stopped freaking out about her mother killing people the moment the woman said those words. She's always been a girl who has been compassionate and empathetic towards even her biggest enemies, so it's utterly out of character for her to murder someone and laugh about slipping in their blood. So if it wasn't clear before, it's clear now that she's a weapon, through and through.
Prospera didn't strike me as the type of mother to brainwash her child and force her to kill people, at least in the prologue. But she's always had this aloof and calculated attitude towards Suletta in the main show. You'd think a woman who lost her husband would treasure the child she had with him more than that. Something's not adding up here.
This also lends credibility to the idea that the GUND bits are clones, as Suletta's mother can just brainwash her into not worrying about it. I dunno, I need to rewatch the entire series and look out for this stuff lol
@@sionnachrealta5534 It could be. We're very much in speculation territory, so it's really hard to say for sure. It could be that Suletta is also a cyborg, and her GUND brain lets her both pilot without ill effects, while simultaneously letting her mother control her. I'm very warm to this idea, as it incorporates what we know about how the GUND format has both prosthetic and combat advantages.
Personally, I like the idea that the phrase opens her up to whatever the person says next, but is inert if Suletta herself utters it. We just had a big emotional moment between her and Miorine, where Suletta felt super insecure until Miorine uttered that phrase and seemingly changed her mind.
I like this theory because it hollows Suletta and her relationships out. Instead of being a timid girl opening up to her friends and forming meaningful connections, she's a weapon with a command override code, which her "friends" have unwittingly used to manipulate her into doing what they want. But maybe I'm just in tragedy mode because of how shocked I am at the after-credits scene of episode 12 lol
Regardless, I'm gonna rewatch it and see if my theory holds up. I didn't realize the phrase might be a "would you kindly" type situation until episode 12, so further investigation is necessary!
Or ericht left her body as a side effect of PMET link score 5/above
Its not apparent instantly, but elnora need time to repair Lfrith to enter mercury, its a planet on microwave 24 hour by the description of the novel
Sometime when lfrith being repaired around colony near venus - mercury, ericht simply said goodbye to elnora from the cockpit of aerial, she was called by lfrith AI, instead of ericht body being absorbed, the body remain & ALIVE, this is why the opening song show suletta & ericht as sister
And why suletta only have memories up to her 17th birthday, she has ericht body & face, but none of her memory
the mothers plan seems to be she wants the gundam mass produced with her software... think the original copy enri is with the mother as gives a non convoluted plan as the mother only endangering a throw away copy.
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@@mikey742 about that ☠
A(ERI)al is a fun theory. It gives us wrinkles/textures in a show that was initially thought to be as “Gundam in highschool”. Given that the series isn’t afraid to be dark, it’s nice that the writers are easing us into it (like the end of the prologue and episode 6). They are not banking on shock value by hinting on it this early. I don’t think it’s a red herring either since they immediately showed who Prospera was in the previous episodes. They didn’t beat around the bush with that either. With that said, I love that this buzz may help WFM survive this stacked season. For the 21 years, time can get really wonky in space given that time is slower at the speed of light. So 21 years could mean differently between individuals in space.
Time dilation only becomes a factor when you're traveling significantly fast. Since it seems unlikely ships in WFM are able to achieve such speeds - even 1% the speed of light is still 3,000 km per second! That's fast enough to go from Earth to the sun in a little over 13 hours, and that's not even taking the time to accelerate into consideration - I am pretty sure that's not what is going on here. Even Mercury itself orbits the sun at only around 47 km per second.
Man, I remember being mad when people kept complaining that this was utena gundam, bc of all the high school stuff. People who complain of that have either never watched utena, or forget that this is a gundam series
@@jessefanshaw8948 Calling it utena is high praise too considering how deep utena goes as well. They're clearly not true fans of gundam if THIS is what gets them triggered.
@@alvinsmith3894 exactly! Utena’s legacy might be sword lesbians but holy shit that show goes deeper than just that. Never have i watched something that hit as hard for me. Nowadays it gets referenced a lot in other media, usually teens and tweens media, which leads to that age group wanting to watch it. I remember trying to give my friends warnings that it’s not what you expect.
Prospera is looking like a strong contender for this year's Gendo Ikari Memorial Parent of the Year award. She was already at least an honorable mention when it only looked like she was setting up Sulleta as a disposable tool for vengeance; but given the chance that she's possibly fed 1-to-12 children into her Gundam program...
9:40 The thing with the bits is she doesn’t have to know the truth behind it to have personified them, she calls Aerial her sister already so it’s not out there that she treats the bits like they are alive.
Congratulations, you hit a bullseye
My take on this is since this anime has a strong cyberpunk base Aerial is definitely a sentient AI and Suletta is Eri. Also the bit spirit thing most like a "Ghost in the machine" thing to show the Aerial is not a simple piloted robot. Another theory I have is that Prospera is ether being backed or is part of the group that is backing Jeturk, it explains how they could develop the Aerial and how she had inside information on Jeturk's actions
My take expands to Prospera actually not being her mother but a clone/someone with her personality. She gives me the same vibes as Full Frontal / Neo Roanoke, where they inherit the identities of some other person possibly meaning that Suletta's mom has actually been dead for sometime and she could have been killed for Eri/Sulletta's capability of piloting a gundam. This could also support the theory that Eri is actually well past 17 but was brain washed into believing her mom is still alive and that her name is Sulletta. Prospera's herself could also have been tricked into believing she was a surviving witch and her mechanical arm was implanted to make her "memories" seem more like hers. As for the main antagonist, it is possible that the guy at the start of the prologue could be our main antagonist as he wanted all the witches dead to obtain the GUN-D technology because it could hold the solution to eternal life.
Good call, i think prospera/elnora was backed by some sort of anti spacians alliance , could also include mercurians since we know that even some spacians arent equal to another
Bump that. It the short novel, it says that Prospera took up an Alias so Suletta and her could enter the Mercury colony. It also says that Prospera is gone for months because she has to go to earth for work. Based on logic, if the mom has an Alias, why would Eri be using her real name? Just to give context, Eri’s dad was the COO of the Orchs Earth Co. having the last name and same color hair as her mom would be a dead give away. That’s why Prospera dyed her hair brown and grew it out and uses the visor.
What about Eri growing up and her mum passing on, and driven by revenge and takes up the mantle as Prospera while having clones of herself
Don't mind me, I'm just checking the comments after episode 14
Goodbye Eri...
It will be quite amazing to see this mystery unfold, can't wait until we learn more.
Fujimoto referrence HAHAHAHA
@@markowenpadilla1414 I'm glad someone noticed!
Lmao u sneaky
I give u 1 Agni Smile for that reference.
i was always creeped out on the prologue on how she was set in to be an adapt pilot at a very young age the fact that her mother was in shock of her capabilities then made me think it was a barbatos flag and she couldn't be removed as a pilot with just her conciousness
Second theory: each gundbit and Aerial itself has a mindprint of Eri from different stages of her childhood, making the entire Aeriel weapon system a "family".
Explaining the baby space ghosts and her referring to the system as "minna-san".
This also explains why the other gundbits protected the disabled one instead of pressing the attack like a combat drone would, which would be tactically sound. You don't take your whole unit back to recover one man, halfway through a battle, unless that one man is 100% irreplaceable or a VIP.
Well this has aged like fine wine😂
Propero’s actually Eri, 21 years ago her mother died and the lfrith was destroyed and she lost the same arm her mother did, Suletta is Eri’s daughter. I feel like this explains the other characters seemingly aging more then you would expect in the elapsed time better. It’s been like 38 years from the prologue.
This... this actually makes sense.
Especially considering that 21 years is left a lot to interpretation
For that math to add up, Eri would have had to have given birth to Suletta at age 8.
@@ajdynon I mean, with the fact that we never got a confirmed date on the prologue could mean that for 21 years it leaves a lot to interpretation
@@ajdynon No? They could've lived in mercury, which common fact is the closest planet to the sun with a different year spin hence being able to age up real fast.
@@kendrickdos That's not how age works lol
Setsuna definitely be jealous 😂😂
WATCH THE LATEST EPISODE RIGHT NOWWWW HEYY KAKAROT YOUR THEORY WAS REALLLLLLL
revisiting this vid after the newest episode makes this vid so much better since he got it right
I'm in the camp of Lfrith = Aerial, with its consciousness being heavily influenced by Eri's dialogue with her during the Prologue (hence the "Version E.S.), and the "21 year" referring to a pre-Prologue event. My money is on whatever caused the Vanadis Institute to need to be bought by Ochs Earth.
To me, it’s probably the conception of the first gundam in Ad Stella (or using GUND format for mobile suit use)
Waiting for an update after the last episode!!
It’s more likely (at least I hope) that Aerial just has imprints of Suletta’s childhood inside of her. That being said, some of the theories I’ve seen people coming up with have been utterly insane. 12 clones of Eri, one for each GUND-Bit? Shit is wild
it could be that they are doing a "soma". with the ai and the bits actually being copies of eri's brain.
I think it is 12 clones of their mother. To create one AI unit. They make a it a center point of the prolog as why they banned the gundam frame because it absorbs the pilot.
it also doesn't hold up, as everyone casually forgets, Eri was capable of utilizing the bits in the prolog.
@@dapperspider3766 yeah, Eri controlled it like it was part of her body and was totally natural, like a pro, and killed those people attacking easily.
@@dapperspider3766 Yes, but child Eri also got the blue lines, which Suletta does not. Aerial's GUND bits also appear much more autonomous than the original Lfrith's, and Suletta refers to each of them as an individual. There's enough foreshadowing to know something is up with Aerial, but not enough for us to come to a conclusion as to what that is. It's a brilliant invitation to speculation by Sunrise, though it will lead to some disappointment when some fan theories are inevatibly proven wrong.
This video AGED LIKE A FINE WINE, MY MAN.
I AM SHAKING MY ASS RN
two things, 1: remember the theory of relatively and 2: is the 21 year refuring to the prolog or an other event.
also remember in the prolog she had no negative feedback while running the MS.
The 21 years is for some other event. Possibly tied to the Gund system. Remember Prospera's cybernetics use the Gund format to operate. So it's more likely the "how many dead" refers to Peil's research into the Gund format. Remember the "Gundam killed my Son" poster by a protester. And also Ochs Earth's Gundams we're not militarily designed. Lfrith was the only combat worthy unit while the other two looked like hastily armed demolition test units especially with the remote mines.
So... Witch from Mercury is inspired by the story of the RTX-03 Phoenix Gundam, or the entiire EXAM/HADES systems...
Neat
Let me answer you: Yes she is
My guy...You nailed it...
I know it's not related to the Eri is Aerial Theory, but something that i thought during this episode: Can we talk about how Delling Rembran is probably one of the biggest hypocrites i have seen in recent Gundam history? Because, the guy litterally called for a Genocide of the Vanadis Institute because of the creation of the Gundam Llfrith, finding it too much dangerous (litterally branding Elnora and by extension Eri/Suletta, Witches) and in Episode 2, he was willing to detain Suletta and destroyed Aerial because it was a Gundam (Which, is logic considering the prologue) so far, so good. BUT THEN you have Peil Technologies, one of the Big three of the Beneritt Group, the same Group of which Delling is the President, which not only built what is clearly a Gundam (and said Gundam being enrolled at the Asticassia School of Technology.....of which Delling is the chairman ), but modify humans into body doubles of Elan for the sole purpose of piloting said Gundam. So why didnt he called for their extermination like he did with the Vanadis Institute? I have a hard time believing he didnt knew about the Pharect considering how fast he found out about the Aerial...
but sometimes those villains have their own reason.
It could be, it is not only because he wants to dominate the world.
It is possible that he resent Gundam in example losing his wife due to Gundam or something.
Regarding Peil, yes, either bad writing or they have reason that will be revealed by time.
But I am clinging more on the later.
Do you really think people in positions of consolidated power give a single shit about being hypocrites? While normal folk bicker over morals and ethics, nihilistic and power-hungry assholes gladly shore up their own stockpiles of influence. Happens in the real world all the time. If anything, to be labeled a hypocrite would please many tyrants and powerful people through history… think about it; they’re so powerful that consistency and belief are meaningless to them
well lets be honest he couldnt control the lifrith and the team behind it they were competition so they got snuffed
they would of been bad for business
after that incident we know plent of the mass production psuedo gund arm suits were still intact mostly from the fighting and could of been used to secretly research and try and copy their designs and tech and thus the pharact his own gund arm style suit to be used should the need arise or at a time when the boards and gov would allow it
also make sense why he wanted aerial scrapped and why sulletas mom was so keen to push him in the board inquiry
she knew probably they had been using that salvaged tech and had built a suit if not multiple and wanted to show them up w the aerial a refined more advanced less dangerous to the pilot suit and maybe push him to use whatever suit had been developed to show his hypocrisy and violation of board decree as well as show off and push the aerial and the new systems as the next gen of mobile suit/gundam
this series ive been saying had so much potential for so many many story paths and now we are seeing it go places i didnt even think it might so soon
its awesome
the show has its dark undertones and back story but also has moments of good action and wholesome/derpy slice of lift stuff it’s honestly becoming my fav gundam series of all time and thats not an easy sell given how bloody good IBO was
There is an old saying that applies to this "Rules for Thee but not for me."
its politician move, like in real world nuclear weapon situation
*chefs kiss* video and theory aged like fine wine
who's comeback here after episode 14 ?
If Eri is the gundam, perhaps Suletta is a gund android remote body controlled similar to a funnel. This would explain a lot of Suletta’s attitude toward Ariel, like shes able to experience the world for the Ariel. The funnels are Suletta’s sister because they’re like her and function as extensions of Ariel’s will.
shes much different. shes actually permet particles and aerial is needed to maintain her form. if aerial is destroyed completely, suletta will die.
I love how it's kept vague, 21 year ago incident could mean many, many things, no doubt we'll know more as the story unfolds and us fans get to play a bit of " whitch theory is true Bingo" ! The cryo sleep could be possible and could allow them to alleviate the side effects of the gundam and then protect the pilot from said effects. Or maybe the ms is "alive" and see eri as a true sister and thus the side effects of "force use" would be negated. A stretch but possible in a way, either way good theory vid Kakarot197!
bite of 83 and bite of 87
@@Henrex2000 yeah it kinda reminds me of that
this aged like wine
Well, well, well.............. welcome to the future.....
After episode 9..
Suletta and Eri are the same person since she utilize and awaken Aerial by herself fighting Shaddiq..
And we all know in the prologue Eri is the only person that awaken Aerial and only Eri didn’t have side effect..
Remember Elan Ceres tried driving Aerial he felt the side effect of Gund Arm problem..
Actually Elan didn't feel any bad effects of using the GUND system. He explicitly remarked not feeling like a hand is being shoved inside of his skull.
My guess is that Belmeria knows of an Incident 21 years ago that predated Folksvangr, which would have also been a good excuse for the current day revenge plot.
Aerial's Newtype Ghost(s) looks like Eri because she's a fork (copy) of Eri's conciousness that Lfrith copied and imitated after baby Eri synchronized with her during Folksvangr.
agree .......which bet the question .....what happen 21 years ago ???
@Scary Gary I was thinking the same thing
So you mean to tell me Prospera would want to avenge her arm, not her husband? Bel would want to do something about an incident that is not as catastrophic as the Vanadis Incident? Seems like denial to me.
It makes more sense that Bel was pertaining to the only incident we know of that Prospera would have a huge motivation of avenging. Prior to the events of the prologue, she didn't have any ill-will towards Delling or anyone so there's that.
@@akaneriyun4774 Nah, Belmeria doesn't even know about Folksvangr and thinks Prospera is still salty about her arm or something.
@Scary Gary Agree here. I think whatever/whomever set the course the series is on happened 21 years ago and money is down that a bunch of the folks in the auditorium knew that. And that is the vengence she seeks. Now the question is what controls she has with Areial and Suletta to make them do what she wants to weaponize them. As I do not see the need to kill being part of their personality(ies).
Hello everyone. I'm sure I know why you're back here today.
Since Lfrith/Ariel seemed already sentient during the prologue, maybe 21 years ago was when this AI was "created" in a way when Eri/Sulettas older sister died during a testrun which would explain why her mother was so shocked when she synced with it (fearing that the system would take Eri too)
Interesting... 21-4=17 yo and Dr Cardo said: If you can't clear this then no one can (because the AI is already Eri's big sister), that will explain why the gundam said my little pilot since she is older
This actually makes more sense, maybe what happened 21 years ago was another attack that crippled or killed an older sister, and the reason everyone at Vanadis talked about Lfrith the way they did was because it _IS_ an actual person trapped inside a giant prosthetic body, just like Ein in IBO
Aged like fine wine
Finally, someone who didn't all gung ho with this Aerial=Eri Theory.
So in short, I think there is several way this plays out:
1. Bel refering to other event completely. Bel seems didn't make any reference about Colony Raid at prologue, just some chit-chat about Propera, so it possible that she don't know exactly what happened because Cathedra censorship.
2. If Eri = Aerial is true then most probably Suletta is Elnora other daughter. Cloning, imo, require quite a big resource and I don't see Elnora in aftermath of Colony raid could secure enough resource for that.
3. Eri is Suletta, but at one point when playing with Aerial/Lfrith part of her brain get imprinted into Aerial, she goes coma and when she regain awareness she is a blank state like a baby, broke Elnora completely and make her plan with renaming awakened Eri as Suletta.
At very least i think your theory that Suletta is 20 years old is actually explain why Suletta is taller than other girl of her age; its not Mercury gravity but she indeed a bit older than them.
Why most people are leaning to the fact that the event 21 years ago is referring to the events of the prologue is due to how ridiculously old Delling Rembran, Vim Jeturk and Sarius Zenelli after the prologue unless the writer wants them to look old just for designs sake.
@@joshuacheong5678 stress could make someone older faster. See US presidents before and after assuming their post - and they are only in office at 6 years top.
Having Delling as boss might not really good for your mental health, and Delling might not shown it but he could be secretly very stressed as he know everyone hates his guts.
Your number two theory is possible to do IF elnora have a new guy that have a big money so she can do a cloning thingy or maybe eri is died and elnora remarriage with other guys and have a child name suletta
Considering the last episode of season 1, the possibility that Suletta is brainwash to believe that the darkness option is ok is quite probably. Also it seems that prospera cares more about Aerial than Suletta. I think that is possible that Eri have to use something of Permet Score 4 (since the Lfrith recognize only Eri and not Elnora) in another battle against gundams that use antidote (permet score 4 disables antidote) and that actually kill Eri. However somehow Eri conscience was transferred to the Lfrith. This makes Elnora insane and she became Prospera. Also there is the fact that in the novel that happen after the prologue and before episode 1, Aerial was a AI with a conscience and also thinks that Prospera words of going forward is actually brainwashing (which in the last episode make a Suletta that was afraid to killing to became a freaking psycho).
EP 14 is out and seem like theory is right
Holy crap! You were 100% correct Yo
People after episode 14: so about that....
Holy shitake mushroom's Now that you put it that way could it be that the gundam Arial could be an elder sister that soul merged with the gundam?
I rewatched the prolouge and when Eri's father intervines in the fight between the Anti-Gundam pilot and Eri and her mother we see Eri has got the marks that the pilots get when piloting the Gundams, they are faint and in blue not red like the others, but they are there.
It's basically confirmed at this rate, the real question we've got to ask ourselves is 'How hard and painful is the reveal going to be?" knowing gundam it's going to hit like colony
They show very early on that they can replace their body parts with mechanical ones so it only makes sense that they can replace their entire body at some point while imprinting their soul somehow to a machine. I like this dark tone they're going for and it makes me more excited for the future!
No it actually does not, those are two vastly different things.
Ok.
Its also a bit odd that Suletta is concerned about losing even one ‘bit’. Since they’re typically disposable.
Everyone coming back to confirm the horror.
Yes yes they r
It puts that line "My darling daughter won't lose", in a darker perspective.
This man is a freaking prophet
let's not forget Tieria transferring his consciousness to the Seraphim Gundam to activate it after Ribbons "killed" him and the more recent example is poor Ein having the remains of his brain implanted into the Gundam Vidar/Kimaris Vidar, ore wa Gundam indeed.
I don't know whether they'd go down another Graze Ein, especially as a protag suit. Weirder things have happened though.
I think there's something going on with regards to what makes Suletta a witch with the Gund-Arm system, as Eri had a natural connection with the prologue Gundam. The girlish energy is possibly an indication that Aerial is a true AI which is why it steps up levels when Suletta asks her to.
The 21 years could be connected to the accident that required Prospera to rely on the GUND for her right hand/lower arm.
eri + AI = eriAI
@@dperz8430 Could well be Eri was the basis for an AI as an experiment with the permet system, which is why Propsera was the Lfrith's test pilot and the director having no issue with Eri wanting to see her sister 🤔
This anime really took a very dark turn with these info
Yesterday I came up with a theory that this would be some kind like Gundam Vidar from IBO situation where the MS was contain Ein's brain and if the Aerial would have something similar, this could be a reason why Suletta doesn't have any marks appear on her body while she activating GUND Format system...
Thing is she doesn't activate it. Either the Permet Score is constant, or Aerial is changing Scores for her.
Who’s here after episode 14 dropped. Poor Eri
ABOUT ERI BEING AERIAL
Bruhhhh
Well the fans theories are right for once. Guess this harkens back to the Newtypes and and how they can interact with each ada
This aged kinda good considering it was confirmed Eri is aerial
If the theory is true then the mother really is a twisted char clone. She is a fusion of char and the classic mad scientist in gundam franchise. Wow such a cute and lighter gundam is pretty good at hiding its dark tar mucky side
Dude...this all makes so much sense especially with the Elan story
Happy birthday... to...
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*confused screeching*
There was also another chilling line from Prospero in the episode about how many tries Piel Tech has had with a viable Gundam pilot and that smile on her face when she says it.
Maybe she succeeded before they could do it right.
The prologue short story (not the prologue episode. The story that takes place after the Prologue ep and prior to the first ep) tells Suletta's past in mercury *entirely from Aerial's perspective.* That's right.
Aerial is completely sentient, far more than just an advanced AI. She also calls Prospera (Elnora) with *"Mother"* very specifically. At first I thought Aerial was imitating Suletta, but Suletta calls Prospera with "Mom."
There is also one line that says "I cannot go against Mother's wishes, because she gave birth to me." This is a strange line since Elnora is NOT the scientist that designed Lfrith or the Gundam Units in particular. She was a test pilot / engineer, like her husband was.
SO. It is very clear that Aerial and Elnora have a mother-daughter relationship. So the line "I have faith in my daughter" may refer to faith in Aerial more than Suletta.
Not prologue episode? which episode?
@@chronoleggionaire The short story they released that takes place when Elnora, Eri and Lfrith get to Mercury.
@@vornsuki Can't find it (the short story)
what if Aerial is in fact Eri's big sister who died 4 years before the prologue due to the gundam imprinting, and then only Elnora capable of waking her up(Cardo said it), but instead was Eri... hence why Elnora fearing Eri might die aswell but did not
Well, well, well. After seeing episode 14, this theory is looking more and more accurate. Hats off to you kakarot197.
I DO think that Eri is the Ariel. However, I also think that Suletta is Eri. And to me this ties to what Dr. Cardo said before she was killed during the prologue "the Gund Format is mankind's future in space". We could assume at some point that the gund format would have lead to humans uploading their minds into machines and leaving flesh behind to live in space. My belief is that when the still developing child mind of eri interfaced with the dormant Lfrith, the on board gund format refigured itself into a clone of Eri. Hence why the theme of happy birthday, that day, Eri's twin sister was born. Also i could imagine Enola beginning to upgrade the Lfrith and discovering that its core was now a digital, sentient clone of her daughter probably messed her up a bit. I could go deeper but thats pretty much where my belief is, though I wouldn't mind a darker option either
this is also a good theory, if eri doesnt turn out to be aerial I hope they go with this
its possible that they do a "soma" with a similar idea. the AI is a copy of eri's brain.
that's crazy after season 2 episode 2 I had to come back to this video
Well, the Gund system was meant to be used as prosthetics for people with physical conditions. It is possible that Elnora at some point adopted Suletta and raised her as her own and and Eri's younger sister. Eri became ill and the only way to save her was to merge her with the Ariel as one huge prosthetic. This could explain why Suletta is so close to the Ariel and "my darling daughter" line. Also could explain the 21-year time gap.
Basically Ghost In The Shell
and this adopted children face being modified with Eri face.....and since that Elan double body is exists....daym
@@grayhantzell1957 This series got real dark real fast.
This takes "I am gundam" to a whole new level.
What if they took out a person's brain and put it into a gundam? You could have the gundam go through a robocop like arc with it eventually becoming fully self aware. You could even have it "argue" with its pilot by not following order as it slowly becomes more sentient
They already did it with Kimaris Vidar in Gundam IBO
I mean that is basically what happens in Iron Blooded Orphans with Ein.
Ein deliberately volunteered for his limbs mutilated and be put inside a specialized cockpit for the system work to the maximum. He ultimately destroyed by Barbatos and his brain is the only thing remaining and then put inside the Kimaris.
Ignoring the person's brain put into a Gundam bit, which as the others said is in line with Ein & the Gundam Vidar from IBO, the robocop bit makes me think of ALICE and the S Gundam.
Holy F. Now, It's confirmed!
Setsuna, Rita Bernal, Marion, & Ein : "Welcome to the club kid"
This is now confirmed to be true from the recent episode
I come from the future to say this theory is true. We all knew it, but it's good to have the confirmation.
This aged well.
Wow!!
Ep 14 is now prove this theory.
Would it be stupid to think that because Ericth Samaya is ridiculously compatible with Lfrith that it copied her consciousness with continuous use? I remember that a child has much greater neural plasticity than an adult so whatever a child wants to learn, they learn much faster than an adult would.
Could it be that Lfrith's AI Adapted to how Eri would think as a child, eventually copying how hair brain works? Then it basically obtained a mind of it's own of which it didn't need another brain as a processor so it became a Standalone?
In another language script of this show, the "21-year-old" line refers to the assault incident in the prologue with no ambiguity.
Holy shit i return here after episode 14 i can only say HOLLY SHIT
Here's a take that, while a tad convoluted, may be possible: The System OS is E. S. named after Elnora Samaya, with data inputs and processing strongly influenced by Eri. Prsopera is Eri Samaya and Suletta is her clone daughter/tool for revenge, she being unable to have a child of her own for reasons.
For those that don't know: the official tie-in short novel for the events in-between the prologue and ep1 has gotten an official translation!
I think this whole episode has given us a lot to think about, I think the decision for them to release the official English translation of that short novel is a rather strategic one, it's almost as if they want us to have a second look at it again...
I don't really think that Suletta herself is a clone or body double, it would seem that unlike most of the adults/enhanced humans, use of the Gund-arm format seems to have what they called a "data surge", though with the previous knowledge that this technology was emphasized a LOT originally for prosthetics, we can actually have an idea about what the actual side effect is
Looking back at the prologue, there is a scene where Elnora's Gund-arm prosthetic stops working, it's said that it's not the first time it has happened, it's somewhat akin to a body rejecting an extra body part in a sense
Scale that up to full out mobile suits being an extension of one's body and you begin to see the problem: the more they seem to "connect" themselves to the permet, it's almost as if the entire suit is a giant prosthetic, forcing their bodies to accept it, and the "data surge" kills them
And back on the topic of our dear Suletta, the novel spends great detail from AERIAL'S perspective on their life on mercury, and one thing to note is the frequent time Suletta spends with Aerial, within the cockpit. It's almost like a second home for Suletta, she'd go into the cockpit to talk about her woes, play games, just about everything
Which brings me back to the topic of the whole prosthetics thing: no single one of them has had exposure to the gund-arm format from such a young age, the connection Eri made with Lfrith's AI (which would become Aerial) would grow more and more attached to Suletta as time went on
Aerial herself seems to have sentience, but she knows that she doesn't grow, hence why it feels that she is the more "matured" sister, but from the years spent in mercury Aerial has quite literally seen Suletta grow from a toddler to a youth. I'm guessing that Eri doesn't equal Aerial, but the connection itself is something that couldn't be artificially reproduced, one specific to Suletta and Aerial
Okay but on a side tangent I think the opening also gives us a lot of insight considering the song itself was written based on the short novel: there's many scenes with baby Eri, it's not even about her growing to be Suletta, like a gundam ZZ evolution in the op, but rather it treats it a lot like they are two seperate people, which I think is really interesting considering small eri may very well be the representation of Aerial herself, with even the ending shot being baby Eri on the Aerial's shoulder
Also the art on YOASOBI'S single of the opening has both baby Eri and Suletta standing NEXT to each other with the ruins of the Aerial...so there's something
It's kinda strange to be so oddly connected to a gundam for the first time, I think this is one of the few times where I really don't want Aerial to get destroyed by the end :( hopefully the ending has everyone plus aerial living a happy ending (let me dream 😭)
Adding onto some other animation details, it's interesting to note that till this point every single time someone has made use of the Gund-arm system, they always vocally say "permet score", and we kinda overlooked it but never once have we seen Suletta say that at all, and more intriguing is that her physical appearance doesn't even show any signs of the "link" on her face
It would seem that for the Gund-arm system, increasing the permet score seems to be the pilot trying to "control" more of the MS, with even Elan outright saying "she can control gund-bits better than me", it leaves me to think that perhaps rather than Suletta controlling the bits, it's actually Aerial itself that's choosing to act on her will, which I think is the most interesting take on funnel controls ever, it's much less about space magic like we're used to rather the A(Eri)aI itself wanting to aid Suletta rather than Suletta wanting it to aid her (if that makes any sense)
well as per info's references about Witch from Mercury story, it is base from Shakespeares play "The Tempest" and fortunately it belongs to a "Comedy" genre. but still lets not be confident that it will be a Happily ever after as it is a Gundam.
Elnora's arm not working is due to the power running out though not due to rejection. The show I'm pretty sure also does state that a data storm is the results of trying to control basically a second body and that the data load from the mobile suit overloads the brain and kills you. Not so much your body rejecting the system so much as the body not having the capacity to process the functions coming in and it torches your brain. I think permet scoring is essentially calling the system to allow for more "bandwith" to communicate with the MS which is why the data storm is more likely at higher scores. Also the lining that patterns the pilot's body i'm pretty sure is the permet mineral that is being mined on Mercury so I'm guessing increasing permet score is also increasing the amount of permet mineral being injected into the pilot and that is partly allowing for more data transmission but also causing a possible overdose?
The focus of the Vanadis institue I think wasn't trying to make Gund-Arm safe by making it need less load to run functions but by making a smart ai that can learn and adapt functions and reduce the burden placed on the pilot. Hence why the testing Elnora is doing is calling different layers to see if the ai gives any feed back. I think she imprints off of Eri cause a child's mind is more malleable and gives a template for building the framework of the ai hence why even without a callback since it still boots up in the prologue with Eri wired in. The ai then over the course of the time leap grows and adapts as Eri spends more time and the reason for the Aerial in Cradle Star having more maturity in it's thought process is that it has spent more time with Eri and Elnora and is patterning itself off both of them.
@@dperz8430 "Comedy" back in Shakespeare's time was basically what we consider irony. Since "The Tempest" is considered a tragic comedy, there's probably some sort of twist that will give people an "oh shit" reaction. I'm going to assume that twist will be between Prospera and Aerial since in The Tempest Ariel was Prospero's servant and a key player to completing his revenge and getting him back to power. At least in The Tempest nobody important died so here's hoping that happens here too especially with Sulleta and Aerial.
Setsuna is now officially jealous! But really, this series is starting to feel really dark and disturbing beneath the surface.......
The season has ended now and i'm pretty sure Suletta may be AWARE ABOUT THE 11 souls and be ok with that considering the last scene of the final episode where she basically killed a guy wihout emotion plus act like it was nothing..., and assuming the fact that she doesn't kill someone before, it really makes me think that she could be "manufactured" or "brainwashed" at some point to be a soldier wihout compassion to the ennemy and accomplishing mission wihout asking question.
dude, this blew my mind. i found it weird that sulleta called her gund bits "everyone" and the weirder scene at the end of the battle with the sound of children laughing - this theory feels pretty solid.
I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but literally the first scene of Eps 1 has Suletta and Aerial talking to each other. Granted its a vague interpretation of that scene but I do believe that would lend credibility to Eri possibly being Aerial.
There was an image going around a few weeks ago drawing parallels between Shakespeare's play Tge Tempest and GWitch. There is a character in the play named Ariel. Said character is a nature spirit, not a human. Ariel is one of many spirits bound in service to Prospero, and the only one given a name and lines in the play. It's more in keeping with those parallels for the Gundam Aeriel and its bits to be AIs than the enslaved souls of children. Though that's not out of the realm of possibilities. Historically, the character of Ariel in The Tempest was played by young boys, hence Elan's vision of the children.
Not sure if anyone else thought this but what if Elnora had a child before Eri and that is who is in Aerial