Happy to see more "logic" projects, they're really fascinating. Neat printer! Also, slightly bugs me that the print preview in the thumbnail is a pixel taller then the printed image haha. Great work!
You should use this for a multiplayer Monday, to do a throwback with a pictionary. Maybe it could be a 2v2 with each person trying to copy half of a set picture.
Maybe DPP can add a paint sniper or something that only paints one block at a time with no randomness. Also some ideas for optimization would be to have it fire twice for each pixel, to fill them out more, and maybe have it skip lines with no color on them, although that might be harder. Anyways this is so cool! I love it when people use logic to make things in video games.
for people who don't understand logic it's easy to suggest but for those who understands logic you can't think of anything because how hard it's to make
@@-LAWAN I'm not super into logic, but I do understand it some. I agree that the line skipping could be hard, but I do think having the paint gun shoot twice would be at least relatively easy. Of course Khan doesn't have to do it if he doesn't want to, I just was listing some ideas.
Drawing anything with this will make it an ink blot test, which would be funny for Multiplayer Monday "And what do you see here?" "It's a.... cat?" "It's supposed to be a horse..."
You could set up an auto color changer by using the paint guns to color other paint guns. Hard part would be determining the color automatically without needing to test each pixel with a color sensor.... Midsentence thought, use the paint gun trick from earlier to change the sensor color until it detects the correct color.
You mentioned that you could scan colours from an image and reproduce them... if you feel so inclined, I think reproducing Scrapman's image from the workshop would be hilarious!
Could you not just surround each "Pixel" in glass and make them smaller? Yes, you have some clear gaps between each colour, but you won't have any "paper" showing. Of course, you could just have the spudgun shoot twice. Furthermore, if you were to figure out how to make it quicker, you could, instead, have it "reprint" as it resets to its original position. Also love how you and Scrapman released scrap mechanic logic videos on the same day, probably without coordinating it.
Here's a way how you could get perfect square pixels: You print on a double sheet of "paper" that consists of two glass layers with an air gap between those, and then on the outside of the glass layers you place a checkerboard pattern of printable pixels. The paint guns would then need to print on the paper from both sides (with logic to only make the one shoot that isn't above a glass pixel). To finish the picture up, you weld the two sheets together, with the printable sides towards each other, so that the checkerboards mesh together into one flat single sheet. And the final step would be to feed that glass and paper sandwich through a de-glassing process, which simply consists of a line of spudguns on the top and bottom that blast the glass (you don't quite need to strip the bottom, but it's handy if you want to ever reverse a page, for example if you make a symmetric 2-sheet painting). That way, you could also shrink the pixels to 6*6 or maybe 5*5 blocks.
I don't know how the mod works, but wouldn't it be possible to have a frame, perhaps on a piston around the spudgun? This would eliminate all spill between pixels and allow the pixels to be smaller.
1. I can think of a few different ways to make this paintball gun paint in 1x1 pixels rather than big splotches, the best one involving shooting the same color in the same spot over and over until you (almost) always get a perfect circle. If you then offset that circle one pixel to the right and repeat, then move on to the next row and repeat etc, you will end up with a 1x1 pixel resolution image. 2. You could absolutely make it print in all colors without needing to manually use the paint tool. The "best" way would be to simply blueprint edit together one paintgun of each color into the same spot and you're pretty much done, or if you don't want to blueprint edit then putting them in a row, and offsetting where you shoot by 1 pixel for every color change (Meaning that if you swap to blue, the third color, it would offset the paint gun by 3 blocks before shooting it) 3. To combat the problem of not having a colored display, if you're allowing blueprint editing then you could blueprint edit one lamp of every color into the same block, meaning that the lamp you activate is the color of the pixel. However if you don't want to use blueprint editing, simply just letting the player paint onto a canvas with their paint tool, and then using lots of colored sensors to detect which colors you've painted would be a really nice way to solve the problem. Would probably be even better than pressing buttons to move around the "paper".
Here's an idea. It would probably be complicated to do, but could you find a way to switch the color of the print mid-cycle by setting up too many paint guns to shoot the printer?
you could do different colors and expand this HUGE lol, would be a logic nightmare but very cool concept. also to correct for the RNG, you could also send the same print job through multiple times, should fill in the gaps eventually.
Could you make different coloured guns pointing at the one gun to change its colour so that you could print multi-coloured pictures? Another solution would be to make a rotating cassette to hold all the differently coloured spudguns which would the turn to make the correct gun to shoot.
when i saw the painting thing, this was my first thought, but I was hoping there would be a way to get a precise amount painted i also thought you could use it for compact memory using colors for numbers (i can use base 10 (10 colors) because it's convenient to use)
Wouldn't it be possible to make a kind of "HDD" to store bits you could use a black an white paint gun and a sensor. That way it doesn't gets reseted an one could even save something an push it to the workshop. Imagine a cartridge system where you could download images from others an print them. (Well that would be more a copy)
if you figure out a way to display color maybe you could use OTHER paint guns to paint the main paint gun so the pixels dont get moved due to having multiple
I wish you would make scrap mechanic Robots again, I also wish you could make integrated circuits within one logic block, you could have almost like a logic block with like a bunch of little tiny logic gates inside it that can be customized and they have their own connection point and they can be programmed to do different things and that would be awesome for robots and compact builds and with upgrades you can add complexity, another idea also came into my head in theory you could make a neural network in scrap mechanic mechanic. You don't have to do any of that Kan I'm just saying stuff, but a new challenge would be a 3D printer! The logic block thing was an idea I wish there was a mod of.
KAN ! Make a battleship boardgame in scrap mechanic using the printer mechanic please!!! you put down small explosive as your ships and your opponent controls where to shoot.
Team paint ball, both teams haveboth colors. When your mainly a diffrent color (or have a zone in witch controls witch team you on) you switch team, the point is dubbled for who started in that team
If "head" of the printer was 3x3 it would probably work better in sense that there wouldn't be gaps but pixels would be bigger and overlapping by single pixel
So, I haven't been able to make working memory bits recently in Scrap Mechanic, they always seem to just spasm rather than functioning as an actual memory bit. I tried following your old tutorial but feel like I did something wrong since everything started spasming out. was just trying to set up a door that would open for a time, then close. I feel like i should understand memory bits, but for some reason mine just don't work right.
Oh, that’s a normal issue with the NOR+NOR looped memory cells. Certain exceptional circumstances (mostly just spawning them in for the first time) will cause them to oscillate like that. You can fix it with an AND gate with inputs from…. try either inputting both NOR gates or one NOR and the middle OR gate, then try hooking the AND gate’s output into one of the NOR gates. It’s been aaaages, and i don’t remember how exactly the timings work out, but something like that should fix it. Basically: Use an AND gate to check if both NOR’s are on at the same time, (something that should never happen normally), then give one an input from it to ensure it stays off.
Wait I just have the best idea for like a multiplayer Monday or something. You should combine this with the potato internet thing from a while ago to send it across the map
you basically made a dot matrix printer, or how old fax machines worked I am sure you can optimize this alot to use less logic gates, skip empty spaces and rows etc., maybe add 3 printer heads (rgb) and boom, you have a modern printer with shitty resolution :D still nice work and it explains to less tech savvy people why printing in high resolution takes way more space (aka ram) on a printer compared to a compressed image on your pc ;)
Now i want to See a 3d printer. Like a big Box of cardboard and spudguns on every side can like carve a shape :D and also some paintguns to paint the sculpture. Sadly im a noob in scrapmechanic.
can someone help me, i tried getting scraptoon on the workshop from dr pixel plays video and it still didnt work, so are there any other mods i need to spawn the "bad printer" there is still a error whenever i try to spawn the printer
"It's easier to just delete the whole printer and spawn a new one." Ahh, so the average inkjet then.
inkjet stonks be like
Splatoon 3 hype
😂
Lifehacks that work on more than just in-game scenarios.
5:50 "it's really quite simple!"
Kan is becoming the scrap mechanic equivalent of Mumbo Jumbo
Yeah it’s funny how similar they are
Omg your right
Yes
Happy to see more "logic" projects, they're really fascinating. Neat printer! Also, slightly bugs me that the print preview in the thumbnail is a pixel taller then the printed image haha. Great work!
You should use this for a multiplayer Monday, to do a throwback with a pictionary. Maybe it could be a 2v2 with each person trying to copy half of a set picture.
Maybe DPP can add a paint sniper or something that only paints one block at a time with no randomness. Also some ideas for optimization would be to have it fire twice for each pixel, to fill them out more, and maybe have it skip lines with no color on them, although that might be harder. Anyways this is so cool! I love it when people use logic to make things in video games.
for people who don't understand logic it's easy to suggest but for those who understands logic you can't think of anything because how hard it's to make
@@-LAWAN I'm not super into logic, but I do understand it some. I agree that the line skipping could be hard, but I do think having the paint gun shoot twice would be at least relatively easy. Of course Khan doesn't have to do it if he doesn't want to, I just was listing some ideas.
Drawing anything with this will make it an ink blot test, which would be funny for Multiplayer Monday
"And what do you see here?"
"It's a.... cat?"
"It's supposed to be a horse..."
meanwhile scrap man is struggling to build a self driving car 😂😂
A way for it to look better is if it does the exact same thing twice over so it should connect the paint
or just shoot twice every time
it's still just a chance it'll look good, I think a better solution would be using unpaintable blocks around each pixel
You could set up an auto color changer by using the paint guns to color other paint guns. Hard part would be determining the color automatically without needing to test each pixel with a color sensor.... Midsentence thought, use the paint gun trick from earlier to change the sensor color until it detects the correct color.
I swear, this man is the mumbo jumbo of scrap mechanic
Edit: ok fine I fixed the typo, now shut up
Mumbo Jumbo**
Yes
Jumbo jumbo
mumbo mumbo*
Mumbo Jumbo*
I love this kind of stuff. Big project I would never have the time to do is fun to see.
Loving the ‘it’s actually quite simple’-projects!
You mentioned that you could scan colours from an image and reproduce them... if you feel so inclined, I think reproducing Scrapman's image from the workshop would be hilarious!
Could you not just surround each "Pixel" in glass and make them smaller? Yes, you have some clear gaps between each colour, but you won't have any "paper" showing. Of course, you could just have the spudgun shoot twice. Furthermore, if you were to figure out how to make it quicker, you could, instead, have it "reprint" as it resets to its original position.
Also love how you and Scrapman released scrap mechanic logic videos on the same day, probably without coordinating it.
won't it just splatter past the glass?
@@vibaj16 I don't know
I was thinking a stencil method, where only a one-pixel gap exists and the stencil is moved so that only one pixel is colored at a time
@@alexanderpolete3801 how would it prevent color from going past the stencil?
@@vibaj16 I'd assume the way a stencil would block paint in real life, but that might not be programmed into the mod now that I think about it
Here's a way how you could get perfect square pixels:
You print on a double sheet of "paper" that consists of two glass layers with an air gap between those, and then on the outside of the glass layers you place a checkerboard pattern of printable pixels.
The paint guns would then need to print on the paper from both sides (with logic to only make the one shoot that isn't above a glass pixel).
To finish the picture up, you weld the two sheets together, with the printable sides towards each other, so that the checkerboards mesh together into one flat single sheet.
And the final step would be to feed that glass and paper sandwich through a de-glassing process, which simply consists of a line of spudguns on the top and bottom that blast the glass (you don't quite need to strip the bottom, but it's handy if you want to ever reverse a page, for example if you make a symmetric 2-sheet painting).
That way, you could also shrink the pixels to 6*6 or maybe 5*5 blocks.
I don't know how the mod works, but wouldn't it be possible to have a frame, perhaps on a piston around the spudgun? This would eliminate all spill between pixels and allow the pixels to be smaller.
1. I can think of a few different ways to make this paintball gun paint in 1x1 pixels rather than big splotches, the best one involving shooting the same color in the same spot over and over until you (almost) always get a perfect circle. If you then offset that circle one pixel to the right and repeat, then move on to the next row and repeat etc, you will end up with a 1x1 pixel resolution image.
2. You could absolutely make it print in all colors without needing to manually use the paint tool. The "best" way would be to simply blueprint edit together one paintgun of each color into the same spot and you're pretty much done, or if you don't want to blueprint edit then putting them in a row, and offsetting where you shoot by 1 pixel for every color change (Meaning that if you swap to blue, the third color, it would offset the paint gun by 3 blocks before shooting it)
3. To combat the problem of not having a colored display, if you're allowing blueprint editing then you could blueprint edit one lamp of every color into the same block, meaning that the lamp you activate is the color of the pixel. However if you don't want to use blueprint editing, simply just letting the player paint onto a canvas with their paint tool, and then using lots of colored sensors to detect which colors you've painted would be a really nice way to solve the problem. Would probably be even better than pressing buttons to move around the "paper".
I hope you guys do another April fools video next year. This reminds me so much of the one year you and ScrapMan made creations for each other.
Here's an idea. It would probably be complicated to do, but could you find a way to switch the color of the print mid-cycle by setting up too many paint guns to shoot the printer?
Add sheets together to make high definition larger images.
maybe cluster together 4 paint spudguns? better coverage and close to the same area
kAN: "It's a pretty simple system"
My brain: I'M MELTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just like how the paper is called "bad printer paper".
“High-eyes low quality kAN isn’t real, it can’t hurt you.”
High-eyes low quality kAN:
Someone needs to weld 2 of these together, then move the spud gun from one to another so that it can print 2 layers at the same time.
Could you use sensors to choose what areas to print, and build a model of what you wanted printer, with each layer of depth being a different color?
Kan explaining quantum physics - "It's really quite simple"
you could do different colors and expand this HUGE lol, would be a logic nightmare but very cool concept. also to correct for the RNG, you could also send the same print job through multiple times, should fill in the gaps eventually.
Lol, you should get a screenshot or something of that print and make it you're logo for a little while. That's SUCH a cool build
Could you make different coloured guns pointing at the one gun to change its colour so that you could print multi-coloured pictures? Another solution would be to make a rotating cassette to hold all the differently coloured spudguns which would the turn to make the correct gun to shoot.
This would make a neat challange vid.
Each have 3-5 topics to print,
And maybe a guest like yanik could judge 🤔
when i saw the painting thing, this was my first thought, but I was hoping there would be a way to get a precise amount painted
i also thought you could use it for compact memory using colors for numbers (i can use base 10 (10 colors) because it's convenient to use)
Reid Captain did something similar with a “3D Printer” using blocks out of vacuum tubes
Yeah, Reid captain should get more recognition, his videos are really good
@@SCOP_ lol I thought you guys were the same account
@@Robododobobo lmao
It's been a while since a solo scar video! Hell yes so excited!!
Wouldn't it be possible to make a kind of "HDD" to store bits you could use a black an white paint gun and a sensor. That way it doesn't gets reseted an one could even save something an push it to the workshop.
Imagine a cartridge system where you could download images from others an print them. (Well that would be more a copy)
that is quite the inkjet
needs a bigger array size (if you make it 17x106, you can print tupper's self-referential formula)
YESSS!!! Please bring back the logic creations!
Would be cool to have it print vertical so you could have it print say a wall of a building
you'd just need to turn it sideways right?
I love the amount of time he says 'simple', when its anything but. Cool build tho, very creative.
Kan explaining logic is like mumbo jumbo explaining redstone
pictionary would be the best with this!
Try multiple paintball printer heads to paint a full line at a time. Make a laser jet.
What if you use two paint guns to double up the pain used in one spot, increasing the amount of paint per pixel
Kan you should check out the programmable computers mod
Not very limited by the size of the paper if you make like ten papers into one picture if you think about it it could get super detailed
Im before Multiplayer Monday Pogo Stick
I love the flaming green eyes
I love seeing kan make these kinds of things
Next: rgb version? Copier version? I have ideas for doing both
make a printer that prints a printer that prints a printer?
It's been a while! I love this type of video!
if you figure out a way to display color maybe you could use OTHER paint guns to paint the main paint gun so the pixels dont get moved due to having multiple
What about the classic logic game of mastermind in scrap mechanic? Maybe even multiplayer Monday theme of board games?
This isn't the world's worst color printer. It's the world's worst _functonal_ color printer.
I'm watching this while drunk... all imma remember is the sound of kAN's voice talking at me. Absolutely love it
You don't seems to have a self wired xor gate.
That is the smallest memory cell of all and very useful for logic stuff.
Do you wanna one?
you should make an espisode where you make a musium and show case your discords paintings, and give them bronze silver gold.
I wish you would make scrap mechanic Robots again, I also wish you could make integrated circuits within one logic block, you could have almost like a logic block with like a bunch of little tiny logic gates inside it that can be customized and they have their own connection point and they can be programmed to do different things and that would be awesome for robots and compact builds and with upgrades you can add complexity, another idea also came into my head in theory you could make a neural network in scrap mechanic mechanic. You don't have to do any of that Kan I'm just saying stuff, but a new challenge would be a 3D printer!
The logic block thing was an idea I wish there was a mod of.
absoloutly fantastic kan.
That's awesome and hilarious. Absolutely play pictionary!!
You logo looked more like a bell
People like to make fun of people who say logic is "simple." What they don't seem to realize is that "simple" does not necessarily mean "easy"
KAN ! Make a battleship boardgame in scrap mechanic using the printer mechanic please!!! you put down small explosive as your ships and your opponent controls where to shoot.
are there some sort of transparent blocks to paint and add layers for 3D art?
Team paint ball, both teams haveboth colors. When your mainly a diffrent color (or have a zone in witch controls witch team you on) you switch team, the point is dubbled for who started in that team
could you make the paper like 3 blocks thick and print on the back to make it more accurate?
I really want this to be the next multiplayer Monday
What if you make it double up the paint?
Lol that stickman tho! Looks like it wants to die
If "head" of the printer was 3x3 it would probably work better in sense that there wouldn't be gaps but pixels would be bigger and overlapping by single pixel
Now turn it into a 3D printer for building cardboard castles. XD
Today Kan teaches us that "simple" and "easy" are NOT the same thing.
So, I haven't been able to make working memory bits recently in Scrap Mechanic, they always seem to just spasm rather than functioning as an actual memory bit. I tried following your old tutorial but feel like I did something wrong since everything started spasming out. was just trying to set up a door that would open for a time, then close. I feel like i should understand memory bits, but for some reason mine just don't work right.
Oh, that’s a normal issue with the NOR+NOR looped memory cells. Certain exceptional circumstances (mostly just spawning them in for the first time) will cause them to oscillate like that. You can fix it with an AND gate with inputs from…. try either inputting both NOR gates or one NOR and the middle OR gate, then try hooking the AND gate’s output into one of the NOR gates. It’s been aaaages, and i don’t remember how exactly the timings work out, but something like that should fix it.
Basically: Use an AND gate to check if both NOR’s are on at the same time, (something that should never happen normally), then give one an input from it to ensure it stays off.
Wait I just have the best idea for like a multiplayer Monday or something. You should combine this with the potato internet thing from a while ago to send it across the map
I wouldn't even know how to make a printer. Logic makes my brain go hurrrrr.
if you squint real real hard it looks almost like your logo lol. Great build I was impressed.
Now make it into a 3d printer x,y,z, axis and make it shoot blocks like the road building creation
Another great video Mark!
Would it be possible to make a more precise print head by having it shoot at a hole just above the page?
Watch these prints hit NFT's market next week
Congratulations, you created a Fax machine
Multiplayer Monday Pictionary idea?
Fun Fact: SM is Turing complete
Reminds me of dot matrix printer.
Why dont you stream the building process? Im kinda curious how all this is made.
did you upload it in the workshop? id like to use it
you basically made a dot matrix printer, or how old fax machines worked
I am sure you can optimize this alot to use less logic gates, skip empty spaces and rows etc., maybe add 3 printer heads (rgb) and boom, you have a modern printer with shitty resolution :D
still nice work and it explains to less tech savvy people why printing in high resolution takes way more space (aka ram) on a printer compared to a compressed image on your pc ;)
Now i want to See a 3d printer. Like a big Box of cardboard and spudguns on every side can like carve a shape :D and also some paintguns to paint the sculpture. Sadly im a noob in scrapmechanic.
That is more of a CNC machine than a 3D printer.
A 3D printer would require a print head with a chest and vacuum pump that shoots blocks.
I was waiting for it!!
can someone help me, i tried getting scraptoon on the workshop from dr pixel plays video and it still didnt work, so are there any other mods i need to spawn the "bad printer" there is still a error whenever i try to spawn the printer
I think I know why the paint won't be away full or such, it because of the game poor physic for that.
Also, nice work
it's not full because the paintball mod is supposed to be random so it is not an accident
Logic is so much fun :)
So much blue!
wouldn't having more than 1 spudgun (or paintball gun) more repliable , either by glitch weilding or just grouping them close in a 2 by 2 square ?
Yes, but the charm of this is in the rough edges. And I bet there's better ways to get clean pixel edges.
Are you going to put it on workshop
He's like mumbo jumbo but in scrap mechanic
when is the scrap mechnic survival co op back?
It's Screaming
Edit: also pictionary with this printer for a mm might be interesting
fiiinally a logic build from kan, tho it's a really simple one which is kinda disappointing... hmm maybe I'll build this but with way less gates lol
It's an early dot matrix printer!
What happens if you put the gun closer to the paper?
This reminds me of that stuff made here video