Believe It or Not these little videos help people more than you think. Almost every bike I've owned has taken a different amount of oil I always get on these videos and watch a few people change their oil so I know the exact amount to use keep on making videos man I've learned a lot from you already I just installed my power commander and did my oil change all from watching your videos thanks for the help
I just got a second GoPro so I can make better riding videos. And I am hoping to join the drone club this year sometime. No guarantees on their watchability (watchableness?) however. I am no Cinematography Student. But you knew that already.
Another awesome video John! I finally picked up my 450L about a month ago. Still a bit cold up here in Canada to ride. Will definitely watch this video again before I do the first oil change. You should be getting royalties from Honda for all the 450L videos you've been making :P It definitely convinced me to get one. Keep those videos coming.
It is funny to see, that the coolant tank cap does still have the same design like the one on my transalp xl600v from 1994:-)! Nice bike and a good explaination!
Yours is the best 450L vlog in the world. I’m a 500excf owner but I enjoy the series and in particular the oil investigations. Both bikes have similar oil change recommendations so I await your findings with great interest. By the way, loved the way you stood on the rack of your bike last episode. Couldn’t do that on a standard KTM but might be able to do it on mine as I built a pannier frame/rack system. Here in Australia it appears that the 450L has been a sales disaster. Pricing was ridiculous at first but it has plummeted. I would be interested but the lack of decent sized fuel tanks put me off. I wouldn’t be put off by the Honda recommended servicing schedule as I believe the bike would be a much better build quality than the KTM.
John T. Young Wow, thanks John. Just looked at their site and it looks very good, reasonable price too. Now the 450 L looks a very distinct option as the wonderful build quality of Honda’s is a big issue for me as I ride solo. Will keep you updated. Must go through you videos to see the best fueling tuning options. Here in Australia we don’t tend to be burdened with the full on pollution devices
DKW, I have been in contact with Nomad and there will also be a 15/16 lt tank out in a couple of months. It’s similar to their 20 with radiator guards included.
John, Great videos. Thanks for taking the time to make these. We all find them so helpful. Good people like you make this hobby fun. Keep up the great work.
soooooo glad you stressed the drain plug "torque" by hand... 13 ft/lbs via a torque wrench has lead to issues as you mentioned. The grease is a trick I would do regardless, but if it is in the manual, then even better and will squash the naysayers. Good video.
Awesome John, can you run over adjusting chain, clutch and brake levers, and how to lube clutch and throttle cables sometime for us newbies. Learning a lot, thanks
very good to see how you handle with the drainplug...... maximum 2 fingers tight and enough.... i read about alot of peoples screwed up the threats by using a torque wrench and doing the 13lbft like in the manual
Hi john from oz , love your videos 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 I just bought a 450 l , liking it so far , are you happy still with your axp skid plate , I like the idea of plastic , all the best cheers
Update on the amount of oil that I put into my bike. I accurately measured the amount in. Halfway up the dipstick, flat ground after oil and filter change was 1250cc. 1380cc came out but I didn't put it in so can't say the difference is all fuel. Be interesting when I do an oil change next time.
Hello John T. I have been watching your channel for a few months. I finally was convinced to get a new 450L and picked it up on Wednesday. I have ridden it about 50 miles and I cannot believe the throttle toggle response. This is terrible. I hope I can get used to it, but I seriously doubt it. I am thinking of ordering the Vortez and the pipe. Question is why you went vortex Yoshi vs vortex and FMF? Your channel does a great job on highlighting the options you have installed. I will be rewatching these as you progressed with the bike. After getting the throttle under control, I will likely do the seat next. That seat is the worst I have felt on any of my bikes. Again, thank you for the videos and adventures. Thanks for your service to your community thru you affiliation with the fire Dept. You are a good man, keep it up.
Thank you so much John. I really appreciate that. You're right the throttle response is awful. It has to do with the ECU turning the injector completely off with the throttle closed, the light weight engine internals, and the lack of any kind of cush drive. Riders coming from a street bike hate it most. The Vortex will smooth it out a lot. I went with Yosh just because I've always had Yosh or Two Brothers systems. No other reason. Add the new ECU and a pipe and HANG ON.
Rod Z Thank you for the advise. I have ridden it for 150 miles at this point. True. The seat is feeling a little better. I will hold off for a while to see how it settles in. The throttle is not as bad as when I was first getting used to it. But it still is not what I like. Thanks again for the advise.
Hi John, great video, lots of good info. I was curious how the two different oil analysis companies compared in their analyses. Have you had a chance to follow up?
I know a lot of guys do in their videos. On a side note, would you sell me your unused power commander on the cheap? Can’t afford a vortex or a pipe right now. Thanks John and keep up the awesome videos.
Another excellent video John. Greatly appreciated! I'm weighing the new CRF300L or CRF300RL against the CRF450RL. The lack of suspension adjustment on the 300's really concerns me. I know the CRF450L has significantly reduced maintenance milage intervals compared to the CRF300's...however, after watching your valve clearance and oil change videos I feel confident I can do both with no issues. No Honda dealer in Tennessee has the new 2021 CRF300's in stock...but ALL the dealers in TN have the 2021 CRF450RL in stock and on their floor. I've been working on big BMW's for years and your Honda seems fairly straightforward to maintain by comparison. Another question for you please: do you by any chance have a list you could post of the many upgrades you've done to your CRF450L? I'd be very curious to see that. Thanks again and GREAT JOB!
I've heard and seen nothing but great things about the 300 Rally. Looks like a great dual sport bike. And yes, the 450L is a dual sport, but just barely. In the description of every video, you'll find the list of all the mods on the bike.
Watching to have a look at those blocked up,oil take offs...i'm sure it would be easy to tremble the oil capacity,using a catch tank/cooler on there...then you have an ADV bike
I’ve been looking at oil coolers but just can’t spend the $450 when all I have to is take 10 minutes to change the oil. Maybe when I add the rally kit....
@@JohnTYoung I'm looking to do 25.000 mile overland, there bits on that where i cannot get decent oil, getting the range to around 2500 miles by adding capacity would be great...like the bike!
@@JohnTYoung If it ever happens due to the Covid...we've cancelled November 2021 already,need to see where the planet stands in the Fall '21 before making a decision on November '22.
LOL. My COVID-19 beard. Filters out all the nasty bugs. We'll see about keeping it this summer. Every 3 or 4 years I grow one, hate it when it gets hot, shave it off. Thanks!
Another thought came to mind. Perhaps a long trip of a few days 600 to 1000 miles doesn't contaminate the oil as much as 600 to 1000 done stop starting over many weeks. I presume when it's running it's not dumping fuel in the oil and that it's from when you turn it off each time? Don't know but it's a thought.
You must have been spying on my email. I just got the latest oil analysis back. This time I changed oil at 450 miles after a ton of start stop short trips over winter including just idling the bike to warm it up.... still over 5% gas in the oil. Long trips, short trips, 1400 miles, 450 miles - always gas in the oil.
@@JohnTYoung Thanks John, appreciate the reply. I have just ordered my mosko reckless 80 for my CRF450L, but am in two minds weather to get the skeggs or the Adventure spec rear rack, as the adventure spec also comes with a mini side rack which my help the reckless 80? Thoughts?
I usually pour few drops of oil on the o-rings for smoother sliding + avoiding the risk of pinching them. In my old Yamaha manual they mention oiling the filter before installation (to be honest, the reason is beyond my knowledge). Being curios about Honda`s approach, I had a look in the manual (same as yours, only that I have it only in digital format). Nothing about pre-oiling the filter but they do mention about using vaseline for the spring :).
Ya. I find I do things automatically without commenting on them. So I end up adding text after the fact. Sorry about that. Pre-oiling the filter... tried it, made a mess, never did it again. Never had an engine blow up. Thanks for the comment!
A question for you, if you don’t mind. Does the Honda have a proper Cush hub or is it just rubber cushioning on the sprocket? I put a Cush hub on my KTM as all ADV bike have them. Thanks
Not stock. The rubber is only around the outside of the sprocket to EASE the chain onto it. MoxMoto (www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_single_product.php?prod=499) makes one though... for $300.
John T. Young Thanks, i guessed that was the case, judging by the photos of the hub. I knew about the Mox sprocket. Not sure what to think about that now. Every adv bike has them but Honda must have confidence in their build, judging by the service recommendations.
Just bought a 2019 CRF450L, Bike had all the necessary mods with 1,400 miles on it. STOKED! . What is the purpose of the magnet washer on the oil filter? RIDE🔥RED 🤛🏁🤜
John, When you tip the bike on its side, by your demonstration, it looks like all the oil is still contained on the side of the bike. When you open up both the oil filter cover and the drain plug, you can promise me that no oil is going to gush out? In the beginning of this video, when you put the bike on its side, if you look closely you already have the EZ drain system adapter on the bike but I assume that is just your editing a new take showing tipping the bike and not you installing that to drain some of the oil first. BTW, you are one of reasons I just got a 450 so you are to blame!
It's always all my fault. I'm getting used to it. No oil will come out when you tip the bike over on its RIGHT side. 1. Tip it over 2. Replace the drain plug with the drain system. 3. Replace the oil filter while it's laying there. 4. Stand the bike up and drain the oil out being sure to rock the bike back and forth a few times. 5. Replace the drain system with the plug and DO NOT tighten the plug down very hard. Just a nudge.
Well sort of. Actually the range for 10W-30 is from -10C to about 20c. Above that, and where most of us ride, it's 10w-40. Take into consideration the "fuel in the oil" thing that a lot of us encounter and I'll stick by my recommendation you use 10w-40 all day long.
I ask because I really see the value in this skid plate... Can't you just Dremel the hole out of the skid plate LARGER so that you don't have to connect another gadget to drain your oil, then lay your bike down to just pick it right back up?
@@JohnTYoung I live in Southern California and mainly ride on the street to work and bring it to the trails maybe once a month. Would you recommend the 10w-40 for that? Or stick with the manual recommendation
Well here's an update from my oil change. Had a battle to get sump plug out . Probably overtightened at the shop before I bought it. Oil was real hot coming out as needed the bike real hot to help get the drain plug out. First thing I noticed was it stunk of petrol and was water thin. That said the bike was very hot so would have thinned the oil. Just looked like a lot of oil so thought I would measure it into the waste container. There was 1380cc. Now I didn't fill it so can't say how much was in it at the start but seems to much. Could the volume be made up with petrol? When I fill the bike I will measure exactly how much goes in . Then check how much comes out next time. Oil has been in for 680 miles as I picked it up second hand just after the 1200 mile oil change. Have you noticed if you have more oil coming out? Keep up the good videos 👌
I have not measured in or not, but I will starting next oil change. For $40 you can have your oil analyzed. Mine has gotten as high as 5% gas. Thanks for the unpdate.
@@JohnTYoung I spoke with the dealer about it, they don’t seem to be any more confident than I am and it seems like if they break it I’ll be stuck on the hook.
Well you can try running the bike till it’s hot and then icing the plug then pull it out. Just try not to deform the hex hole. That’ll press outwards and maybe crack the case. When you put it back in just barely snug it. Barely.
@jarrod1687 what if you ride it 10 km is caked in mud? Then you should clean it after 10 km. I clean it when it’s dirty and move it to keep it from rusting after each cleaning. But I don’t really stick to any schedule.
The reason i don't read manuals is the amount useless information puts me to sleep john . How many times have you watched a video on RUclips & discovered a far less time consuming & less difficult way to do the job . Just because a manufacturer technician wrote the book doesn't necessarily mean its the best way to do the job . In most repair shops you'll find those that read & write books in the office & the real Mechanic's on tools in the workshop & they don't use the manual for anything other then toilet paper when supplies are low
Believe It or Not these little videos help people more than you think. Almost every bike I've owned has taken a different amount of oil I always get on these videos and watch a few people change their oil so I know the exact amount to use keep on making videos man I've learned a lot from you already I just installed my power commander and did my oil change all from watching your videos thanks for the help
Glad I could help Josh! Thanks for watching.
Now we just need a 20 minute video of riding the 450L, please and thank you.
I just got a second GoPro so I can make better riding videos. And I am hoping to join the drone club this year sometime. No guarantees on their watchability (watchableness?) however. I am no Cinematography Student. But you knew that already.
Just subscibed, you’re officially youtubes 450L guy. Love the videos, you’ll be topping 50k subscribers in no time.
Whoa! Thank you. No pressure there.
I know exactly how to change oil, but I always find myself on these videos lol
I do the same thing. We must be bored.
It is a never ending search for the perfect oil change.
Another awesome video John! I finally picked up my 450L about a month ago. Still a bit cold up here in Canada to ride. Will definitely watch this video again before I do the first oil change. You should be getting royalties from Honda for all the 450L videos you've been making :P It definitely convinced me to get one. Keep those videos coming.
You are right, Honda should be sending me something. May be a new 450L to mod every year? Or a new baby Africa Twin to test? Thanks for watching!
John influenced my decision to buy a 2022 RL. Has remained stock other than Seat Concept.
I thought it was very FUNNY! It always blows-me-out how many people ask questions in the comments that are answered IN THE MANUAL.
Did you ever watch "If Google Was A Guy" videos? They're funny.
@@JohnTYoung No is that a YT video?
@@JohnTYoung Thanks also for the off-topic tips :)))). The Bing guy was even better than Google. :)).
It is funny to see, that the coolant tank cap does still have the same design like the one on my transalp xl600v from 1994:-)!
Nice bike and a good explaination!
It's a Honda so it could be. Don't fix it if it ain't broke... ever.
...what could you change in something that works perfectly? It's a cap. ;)
Haha, not crazy watching an oil change, we just hanging out with you mate..enjoying the vids, cheers from Australia
Totally crazy. But appreciated.
Yours is the best 450L vlog in the world. I’m a 500excf owner but I enjoy the series and in particular the oil investigations. Both bikes have similar oil change recommendations so I await your findings with great interest. By the way, loved the way you stood on the rack of your bike last episode. Couldn’t do that on a standard KTM but might be able to do it on mine as I built a pannier frame/rack system. Here in Australia it appears that the 450L has been a sales disaster. Pricing was ridiculous at first but it has plummeted. I would be interested but the lack of decent sized fuel tanks put me off. I wouldn’t be put off by the Honda recommended servicing schedule as I believe the bike would be a much better build quality than the KTM.
Wow. Thank you very much. Nomad Tanks in Australia is now making 20l tanks, so there goes that excuse. Let me know when you go Red!
John T. Young Wow, thanks John. Just looked at their site and it looks very good, reasonable price too. Now the 450 L looks a very distinct option as the wonderful build quality of Honda’s is a big issue for me as I ride solo. Will keep you updated. Must go through you videos to see the best fueling tuning options. Here in Australia we don’t tend to be burdened with the full on pollution devices
DKW, I have been in contact with Nomad and there will also be a 15/16 lt tank out in a couple of months. It’s similar to their 20 with radiator guards included.
John, Great videos. Thanks for taking the time to make these. We all find them so helpful. Good people like you make this hobby fun. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Steve!
Love your videos i just bought the 2022 crf450rl and so far it runs awesome
Thanks JT!!!!!
I love the long neck funnel. Great item to have in your toolbox . I have a Yam 660 supermoto and it's a messy job to add oil.
It’s like they made it to screw into the filler hole.
soooooo glad you stressed the drain plug "torque" by hand... 13 ft/lbs via a torque wrench has lead to issues as you mentioned. The grease is a trick I would do regardless, but if it is in the manual, then even better and will squash the naysayers. Good video.
Thank you!
Awesome John, can you run over adjusting chain, clutch and brake levers, and how to lube clutch and throttle cables sometime for us newbies. Learning a lot, thanks
OH man. There's a chain adjustment in here somewhere.....
Sorry for such a basic question I’m not mechanical, have seen the 3 finger measure at the chain guard as a general way to
@@stevewasilow5556 yes. That's in the "close enough" range. Tho the rear tire should be off the ground when yoou do it.
very good to see how you handle with the drainplug...... maximum 2 fingers tight and enough.... i read about alot of peoples screwed up the threats by using a torque wrench and doing the 13lbft like in the manual
Not sure if there’s a flaw with some bikes that it seizes or what, but I’ve never torqued it very tight.
Great stuff sir.👍🏽. Love your work.🏁🍻
Thanks!
It’s fun to go back and see how RockStars were like before they get the TourBus and SuperModels.
😂🤣😂😎
Hey John, are you gonna do a how-to on checking the valves? That would be awesome.
I sure will, and it will be just as entertaining as ever! LOL. I even bought a snake camera to help film it. Now I just need to DO it.
" Oh wow, it has some dog hair on it.. " that absolutely killed me... I was laughing so hard... This covid got in my brain
I have two dogs. There is dog hair EVERYWHERE. 😃
Hi john from oz , love your videos 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 I just bought a 450 l , liking it so far , are you happy still with your axp skid plate , I like the idea of plastic , all the best cheers
So far so good. No complaints other than it is so hard to put on (1 really tricky screw) I never want to have to take it off.
John T. Young thanks for your reply John , at least it looks like you don’t have to take off for oil change , 👍🏻
@@lizbarber3473 True
Update on the amount of oil that I put into my bike. I accurately measured the amount in. Halfway up the dipstick, flat ground after oil and filter change was 1250cc. 1380cc came out but I didn't put it in so can't say the difference is all fuel.
Be interesting when I do an oil change next time.
Let me know!
Hello John T. I have been watching your channel for a few months. I finally was convinced to get a new 450L and picked it up on Wednesday. I have ridden it about 50 miles and I cannot believe the throttle toggle response. This is terrible. I hope I can get used to it, but I seriously doubt it. I am thinking of ordering the Vortez and the pipe. Question is why you went vortex Yoshi vs vortex and FMF?
Your channel does a great job on highlighting the options you have installed. I will be rewatching these as you progressed with the bike. After getting the throttle under control, I will likely do the seat next. That seat is the worst I have felt on any of my bikes.
Again, thank you for the videos and adventures. Thanks for your service to your community thru you affiliation with the fire Dept. You are a good man, keep it up.
Thank you so much John. I really appreciate that. You're right the throttle response is awful. It has to do with the ECU turning the injector completely off with the throttle closed, the light weight engine internals, and the lack of any kind of cush drive. Riders coming from a street bike hate it most. The Vortex will smooth it out a lot. I went with Yosh just because I've always had Yosh or Two Brothers systems. No other reason. Add the new ECU and a pipe and HANG ON.
Rod Z Thank you for the advise. I have ridden it for 150 miles at this point. True. The seat is feeling a little better. I will hold off for a while to see how it settles in. The throttle is not as bad as when I was first getting used to it. But it still is not what I like. Thanks again for the advise.
Hi John, great video, lots of good info. I was curious how the two different oil analysis companies compared in their analyses. Have you had a chance to follow up?
The last sample is going out tomorrow. I've only used the one company so far. I'll update as soon as I can. Thanks for your patience!
Also, please post a list of all your Farkles. You done some great things to your bike.
I think there's a mostly complete list back on my CRF450L Rally Nav Tower Build video. Do you think I should list everything out o every video?
I know a lot of guys do in their videos. On a side note, would you sell me your unused power commander on the cheap? Can’t afford a vortex or a pipe right now. Thanks John and keep up the awesome videos.
Bill, the last two or three videos have everything I could think of that’s been added. Just for you. :). I already sold my PCV. Sorry.
Another excellent video John. Greatly appreciated! I'm weighing the new CRF300L or CRF300RL against the CRF450RL. The lack of suspension adjustment on the 300's really concerns me. I know the CRF450L has significantly reduced maintenance milage intervals compared to the CRF300's...however, after watching your valve clearance and oil change videos I feel confident I can do both with no issues. No Honda dealer in Tennessee has the new 2021 CRF300's in stock...but ALL the dealers in TN have the 2021 CRF450RL in stock and on their floor. I've been working on big BMW's for years and your Honda seems fairly straightforward to maintain by comparison. Another question for you please: do you by any chance have a list you could post of the many upgrades you've done to your CRF450L? I'd be very curious to see that. Thanks again and GREAT JOB!
I've heard and seen nothing but great things about the 300 Rally. Looks like a great dual sport bike. And yes, the 450L is a dual sport, but just barely. In the description of every video, you'll find the list of all the mods on the bike.
@@JohnTYoung Got it! Thanks again!
I ordered 2023 300L. Waited, never arrived. Decided on 2022 450RL. So far the power advantage has eliminated my concern over maintenace!
The 450 is actually lighter than the 300. And obviously better suspension.
Watching to have a look at those blocked up,oil take offs...i'm sure it would be easy to tremble the oil capacity,using a catch tank/cooler on there...then you have an ADV bike
I’ve been looking at oil coolers but just can’t spend the $450 when all I have to is take 10 minutes to change the oil. Maybe when I add the rally kit....
@@JohnTYoung I'm looking to do 25.000 mile overland, there bits on that where i cannot get decent oil, getting the range to around 2500 miles by adding capacity would be great...like the bike!
Then it would easily be worth 400
@@JohnTYoung If it ever happens due to the Covid...we've cancelled November 2021 already,need to see where the planet stands in the Fall '21 before making a decision on November '22.
Great beard john almost didn't recognize you lol.
LOL. My COVID-19 beard. Filters out all the nasty bugs. We'll see about keeping it this summer. Every 3 or 4 years I grow one, hate it when it gets hot, shave it off. Thanks!
Great video. Just curious what is that roller on the left side panel right on top of the 911 number
Thanks. That's a Stegz Pegz.
Clear speech 😁👍
Working on it.
Another thought came to mind. Perhaps a long trip of a few days 600 to 1000 miles doesn't contaminate the oil as much as 600 to 1000 done stop starting over many weeks. I presume when it's running it's not dumping fuel in the oil and that it's from when you turn it off each time? Don't know but it's a thought.
You must have been spying on my email. I just got the latest oil analysis back. This time I changed oil at 450 miles after a ton of start stop short trips over winter including just idling the bike to warm it up.... still over 5% gas in the oil. Long trips, short trips, 1400 miles, 450 miles - always gas in the oil.
@@JohnTYoung bugger that's not good. Back to the drawing board.
@@JohnTYoung still getting gas in the oil? And if so apparently it has little to no effect on performance right?
@@aalejandro750 yes. It’s still in there but hasn’t seemed to affect anything.
@@JohnTYoung I guess at this point it's a non-issue lol
Keep us posted on your oil analysis results please.
For sure!
Hi John
Are you happy with the mosko moto reckless 80 panniers with the skeggs luggage rack?
Yes. The Mosko Moto 80 has been bomb proof AND when it's all cinched down keeps the weight down low and rides great.
@@JohnTYoung Thanks John, appreciate the reply.
I have just ordered my mosko reckless 80 for my CRF450L, but am in two minds weather to get the skeggs or the Adventure spec rear rack, as the adventure spec also comes with a mini side rack which my help the reckless 80? Thoughts?
I usually pour few drops of oil on the o-rings for smoother sliding + avoiding the risk of pinching them. In my old Yamaha manual they mention oiling the filter before installation (to be honest, the reason is beyond my knowledge). Being curios about Honda`s approach, I had a look in the manual (same as yours, only that I have it only in digital format). Nothing about pre-oiling the filter but they do mention about using vaseline for the spring :).
Ya. I find I do things automatically without commenting on them. So I end up adding text after the fact. Sorry about that. Pre-oiling the filter... tried it, made a mess, never did it again. Never had an engine blow up. Thanks for the comment!
Hi John, what gearing do you run? Are you running the stock 13/51 or otherwise? 👍
I change it depending on how many highway miles I am going to do. I think 13/49 was my favorite off-road combo tho.
A question for you, if you don’t mind. Does the Honda have a proper Cush hub or is it just rubber cushioning on the sprocket? I put a Cush hub on my KTM as all ADV bike have them. Thanks
Not stock. The rubber is only around the outside of the sprocket to EASE the chain onto it. MoxMoto (www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_single_product.php?prod=499) makes one though... for $300.
John T. Young Thanks, i guessed that was the case, judging by the photos of the hub. I knew about the Mox sprocket. Not sure what to think about that now. Every adv bike has them but Honda must have confidence in their build, judging by the service recommendations.
Just bought a 2019 CRF450L, Bike had all the necessary mods with 1,400 miles on it. STOKED! . What is the purpose of the magnet washer on the oil filter? RIDE🔥RED 🤛🏁🤜
To catch ferous metal particles in the oil.
John, When you tip the bike on its side, by your demonstration, it looks like all the oil is still contained on the side of the bike. When you open up both the oil filter cover and the drain plug, you can promise me that no oil is going to gush out? In the beginning of this video, when you put the bike on its side, if you look closely you already have the EZ drain system adapter on the bike but I assume that is just your editing a new take showing tipping the bike and not you installing that to drain some of the oil first. BTW, you are one of reasons I just got a 450 so you are to blame!
It's always all my fault. I'm getting used to it. No oil will come out when you tip the bike over on its RIGHT side. 1. Tip it over 2. Replace the drain plug with the drain system. 3. Replace the oil filter while it's laying there. 4. Stand the bike up and drain the oil out being sure to rock the bike back and forth a few times. 5. Replace the drain system with the plug and DO NOT tighten the plug down very hard. Just a nudge.
Do you need to change the transmission oil too? Or is it a dry clutch
Wet clutch that uses the engine oil for lube.
can i use 10w40 metric amsoil
Sure!
FYI....the factory service manual specifies 10w-30 oil.
Well sort of. Actually the range for 10W-30 is from -10C to about 20c. Above that, and where most of us ride, it's 10w-40. Take into consideration the "fuel in the oil" thing that a lot of us encounter and I'll stick by my recommendation you use 10w-40 all day long.
How many miles on your bike now. Thanks for all the information. Been pretty issue free as well?
22,000 and counting. So far, most issues have been with nonHonda parts or straight up my own damn fault.
I ask because I really see the value in this skid plate... Can't you just Dremel the hole out of the skid plate LARGER so that you don't have to connect another gadget to drain your oil, then lay your bike down to just pick it right back up?
You don't NEED the extra gadget, it just makes life much much easier. And cleaner too.
Would you recommend me putting in my Vortex before I'm don't the break in period on my new bike ? Keep it from being lean from day one ?
Lean or rich aren't necessarily bad or good, as long as they aren't too far either way
Hi, interested in what frame protectors you are running as they don’t seem to make one for the 450L
Those are for the RX. With a little cutting, they can be made to fit.
What tires are you running? I’m switching off stock and not sure
Motoz Rallz on everything.
Just curious why you went with 10w-40 as opposed to the recommended 10w-30 for L?
I ride in the desert and the heat a lot.
@@JohnTYoung I live in Southern California and mainly ride on the street to work and bring it to the trails maybe once a month. Would you recommend the 10w-40 for that? Or stick with the manual recommendation
@@1383mhc The manual recommends both, so always do what the manual recommends. 😉
Well here's an update from my oil change. Had a battle to get sump plug out . Probably overtightened at the shop before I bought it. Oil was real hot coming out as needed the bike real hot to help get the drain plug out. First thing I noticed was it stunk of petrol and was water thin. That said the bike was very hot so would have thinned the oil.
Just looked like a lot of oil so thought I would measure it into the waste container. There was 1380cc.
Now I didn't fill it so can't say how much was in it at the start but seems to much. Could the volume be made up with petrol? When I fill the bike I will measure exactly how much goes in . Then check how much comes out next time. Oil has been in for 680 miles as I picked it up second hand just after the 1200 mile oil change. Have you noticed if you have more oil coming out?
Keep up the good videos 👌
I have not measured in or not, but I will starting next oil change. For $40 you can have your oil analyzed. Mine has gotten as high as 5% gas. Thanks for the unpdate.
@@JohnTYoung eek! 5% that's a lot of gas.
Just picked up one of these, going into the oil change now and the drain plug seems to be seized
It doesn’t take much at all to lock it up. Be careful not to crack the casing. If it’s stuck really bad, let a dealership break it for you.
@@JohnTYoung I spoke with the dealer about it, they don’t seem to be any more confident than I am and it seems like if they break it I’ll be stuck on the hook.
@@JohnTYoung Considering just using a vacuum pump and pulling the oil from the fill hole
Well you can try running the bike till it’s hot and then icing the plug then pull it out. Just try not to deform the hex hole. That’ll press outwards and maybe crack the case. When you put it back in just barely snug it. Barely.
@@JohnTYoung I tried the icing trick, still wouldn’t budge
How often do you clean and oil your chain?
When I remember to?
Honda says every 500km buy that seems way too excessive
@jarrod1687 what if you ride it 10 km is caked in mud? Then you should clean it after 10 km. I clean it when it’s dirty and move it to keep it from rusting after each cleaning. But I don’t really stick to any schedule.
Yeah I gotcha
Got only 475 miles on my 2021 crf 450 rl. Stock. No pipe or Vortex tuner and oil already smells like gas
Ya. At this point it seems normal and doesn’t seem to hurt anything. But it still feels wrong.
I almost peed myself a couple of times today.....
Weeeeeee. You may want to see a doctor about that. No judging.
That was funny
Funny hah hah or funny wtf?
Oil change is awesome! Chain looks like shit!
Welcome to the red dust of Colorado!
The reason i don't read manuals is the amount useless information puts me to sleep john .
How many times have you watched a video on RUclips & discovered a far less time consuming & less difficult way to do the job .
Just because a manufacturer technician wrote the book doesn't necessarily mean its the best way to do the job .
In most repair shops you'll find those that read & write books in the office & the real Mechanic's on tools in the workshop & they don't use the manual for anything other then toilet paper when supplies are low
Those same guys aren't watching videos on how to change oil. I'll bet they've already done 1000 before they threw away the manual. Baby steps.
Recommending any type of automotive 10W40 is not correct.👎
Correct. Only use moto oil and be sure it's for wet clutch applications. But the brand does not matter - Motul, Amsoil, Motorex, etc....