Best of Pilots Arguing with Tower!
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2024
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Pilots vs Tower 
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Thank you for watching, hope you liked the video! Pilots Vs Tower!
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Last guy was a boss! 😂
This is DEI at it's best
I gave up flying back in the late 90s ….As a private pilot I’ve had nothing but pleasant conversations with atc, one comes to mind about 25 years ago I was flying my 1979 piper archer from Atlantic City baider field gps direct to Mansfield Ma which put me about 3 miles out over the water , I was getting flight following from NYC and to be honest , didn’t expect to hear from them seeing how busy they are , but out of the blue they called my tail number and after I answered and the controller asked me if I was a good swimmer , I was kind of taken back and asked “ what do you mean “ and he came back with “ your three miles off the shore line with only one engine “.. we both got a chuckle. Another time I was flying from Mansfield to Nantucket at 3000 feet which put me right over the top of Otis Air Force base , l was monotoring Otis tower on my 2nd radio and just before providence approach told me I was getting out of their area and to notify cape approach I heard the tower tell the F-16 to taxi into position and hold , just then I was told to notify cape approach and I did so immediately , and after checking in , informed them of my altitude and position and asked if the f-16 that was departing Otis was going to be a factor ( as I was about 30 seconds from overflying the top of the field and concerned that some hot steel was about to rip through my floorboards ) … the controller came back and said “ I assure you that you have no worries with the F-16 that just departed Otis as it is currently over Maine “
🤣🤣🤣 Those were awesome stories. Thanks for sharing.
"...currently over Maine" 😂😂
AWESOME EXPERIENCE, thank you for sharing! I love the comment about 3 miles from shore with a single engine.
Always good to hear highly trained professionals acting like children, makes me feel a little better about being a total loser
Wait, now imagine flying with them or having the life and safety of your near dear ones entrusted to them.
trained, not highly. its all multiple choice tests... you just memorize the questions and answers.
@@peeonu25 Pilots are highly trained. Multiple choice questions is laughable
@@mattperry5789 well heads up. For your commercial and private test you can buy a jepp study guide, of... THE 400 possible quesestions on the test. People memorize the question and answer.... If you don't, you probably wont pass, many of the questions are very basic. Same bullshit if you go to a part 141 school.
Sorry to bust your 15 year old brain. But crane operators require more training than pilots.
@@peeonu25 I have a commercial pilot’s license. Those written tests are a formality. I agree it’s mainly rote memorization to pass those, but that’s the tip of the iceberg.
You need to have a wealth of knowledge to pass the oral portion of each check ride with an FAA examiner. Also need to be proficient in the required maneuvers, emergency procedures and various navigation systems of your airplane.
On top of getting your ratings you need a minimum of 1500 hours of flight time to get a job as an airline pilot where you will be trained and required to pass your Airline Transport check ride and type rating in your jet.
Pilots at this level are professionals and experts at their craft.
It's almost NEVER a good idea to argue with ATC, even if you're RIGHT.
I Googled it. Huh? I'm gonna apply for that job.
And just like that, I think I'll take a ship, train, or drive to my destinations.
haha!
Pilots and Controllers are soooo cool!
Very interesting. Thanks for posting this.
The requirements for being a sir traffic controller are trash now. And this is a perfect example. Pilots are getting fed up! And its scary!
Good one! Oldies but goodies.
Fighting with ATC-over the air- is a fool's errand
No it's not
Hey ! The controller Goggled it . She must be right.
It’s the new controllers they’re hiring! They don’t require as much qualification now which is going to cause way more accidents in the airline industry.
@@AviationMP4CANNOT start the base ABEAM the numbers. Sheesh
According to the FAA it's an abbreviated downwind, base and final leg turning inside of the standard 90 degree base turn. Basically, you must turn before you normally would.
Thats when you know ure in good hands 😂
AviationMP4 That’s good to know! 😂
I didn’t know Arnold was a pilot too.
It’s tuff to get controller’s to admit when they’re wrong!
in 2024 people would rather commit genocide than admit that they're wrong, strange days indeed.
@@sam3317 do you think that's a new thing? 2,000 years ago people didn't want to admit being wrong either. 100 years ago, 50 years ago.
@@russellpeffer7736 yeah, we're supposed to learn from the past and get better. But if you want to use medieval justifications for things, you do you.
@@sam3317 Sorry if I was unclear. I wasn't justifying anything. Simply saying I don't think it's a new phenomenon.
"It's over Ground, I have the high ground!"
There's no Room for an Egos in the Sky Risk...When that arguing puts passengers lives at risk!!!???
@@TheWizard-pk4nh That's good to know...That no lives were put at risk...But from my experience from the Military and law Enforcement...when people argue and talk over each other is Potential For Serious Trouble....BECAUSE WHILE TAHT'S HAPPENING...WHO'S REALLY ON POINT...JUST LISTEN TO THE RECORDING AGAIN!!!!!!
As a flight instructor, I can say there is no geographic or "abeam the numbers" definition for a short approach in 14 CFR regulations. A short approach is loosely defined as a normal VFR approach that is shortened from a normal length downwind/base/final approach. In ATC terms, short approach simply means, "please shorten your approach" usually for traffic spacing or similar separation requirement.
Very true! This lady is completely wrong!
But she Googled it! 😂😂
ThNk God DEI got into this industry. Now we can all sleep a little better at night knowing the experience and knowledge may be lacking, but they will have the proper pronouns.
As both a military and FAA controller for 17 years in the 60’s and 70’s and later as a private pilot, I have never heard such disrespectful and arrogant conversations between controllers and pilots. Had I behaved liked that back then I would have been fired on the spot. Pilots and controllers are supposed to be professionals. Act like the professionals you are.
This is soo cool, I love it.
a year and a half as vfr tower in viet nam. busiest airfield in the world (unpublished) 25th Infantry base camp. most aircraft moving at once when I was on the mike was over 50. later Tay Ninh aka rocket city. finally 3 weeks at Chu Lai probably the best runway system in the world at that time, high speed turnoffs, taxiways better than any active, parrells and crosswind even a hook for Navy aircraft and NOT once did any pilot ever make transmissions arguing with instructions like this. something wrong somewhere.
Now all those conversations in airplane simulator with pilots and control towers make sense
I love the NY guy at the 3 minute mark.
“I googled it “ ?!
She shouldn’t have admitted that on the radio even if it was true. And she should definitely use something more official than google.
Honestly, controllers should have some first hand knowledge of flying. Then again, pilots should not be condescending jerks.
Aint no way Google Searches is out here training air traffic controllers 😂😂😂
This is DEI in action!
If you're gonna have a pizzing contest at 200 mph, make sure you're flying downwind.
Read that as pizza"ing" and almost had a different comment for this lol
Depends on runway length and aircraft type. I could do that in my citabria .
DEI here we go yippy
This is hilarious
Mankind contains a constant ratio of A55 H043 every where. Some are in cockpits, some are in towers. It was the same when I started to fly in 1970. Avionic has evolved a lot and for the better. Can't say the same for humans in aviation,.. amongs others ! '' When intelligent, it is easy to play the imbecile, the opposite is absolutely impossible!'' (Unknown)
- I’ll never fly that airline again.
- Which one?
- None of them.
- So how are you going to get from A to B?
- I’ll ChatGbt it
Hilarious! We don’t know this, sitting in the back.
Not a bad video, but I don’t appreciate the click bait. Nowhere in this video does anyone, let alone a tower, say, “You’re an asshole.” That was said by a pilot to a fellow pilot who busted the Las Vegas Class B and then argued with ATC.
Love 5hat last speaker….
This shit is awesome . Like road rage in the air love it
At 1:57: When did Arnold Schwarzenegger become an airline pilot? Ha ha
I don't know if this is something new, or it has always gone on ?
But with all the latest crazy things going on between people, it seems to me that this type of shenanigans could potentially be distracting enough to effect the safety of Passengers !
This is lunacy !
The ATCs job is too deal with the shenanigans. :D granted its usually not so immature but the actual events are constant
@@Mallchad
Maybe I'm naive, but I cannot phantom this behavior is tolerated !
Maybe the vetting process for screening Pilots, and perhaps ATC as well, should focus on their mental well being ?
As they all sound crazy !
@@sleeve8651 it's not tolerated, every flight is debriefed I believe and if it's bad enough people get repremanded and an investigation happens
New hires
"How do you like this for short approach" crashes into tower
Kennedy Steve is God's Public Information Officer. What he says is the gospel. Unbelievers will continue to hold.
To funny😂😂
This is jet airliner 747 coming in hot tower 😂
I really think the pilots need to be given priority while AC is moving. Then afterward they can sort out who was actually wrong or correct.
Pilots are always a priority. However when they disrupt the flow of the other pilots doing everything the way they are supposed to, they become the problem
And now i know why so many runway incursions now. Ouch that was painful to listen to
Flight sims are scary lol
Not road rage, but air rage. ha!
DEI hire.
She googled it??!! Not what you want to hear as a pilot.
Stop “declaring an emergency” and use the word “mayday”, then do whatever you want
The second pilot seems like a.Narcassisy.
when seconds matter, this childish behavior should not be tolerated. Both pilots and controllers need to leave their emotions OUT OF LANDINGS.
Omg i cant believe this is whats happening on the radio waves when we fly, the air traffic controllers are pedantic with their language and instruction, damn, i had no idea pilots and traffic controllers spoke to each other this way.
I am just not knowledgeable enough to render an opinion on this.. still i find it entertaining and interesting..i would think the tower has the final say so on how things are going to go.. everyone is under pressure and no doubt some disagreement is bound to occur.
Actually just the opposite. Pilots have the final say as their life is at risk, not the tower controller sitting comfortably on the ground.
That said, if you’re going to use that ultimate authority as pilot, you better have a good reason because you’re going to have some explaining to do.
I Googled it, Hahhaha
You'll do as your told.
OMG a controller relying on google for her info? Yikes
So much for CRM training
Do these people ever see each other in person?
This is how it shouold be. Best pilots arguing with tower. I don't see any blame being placed here by author. Just funny to listening to it knowing nobody crashed or died.
Control girl googled an answer for an approaching plane.....
I gotta avoid these towers. Where are they?
I'm not q pilot but I fairly certain with a solid internet connection and Google I can fly likeba pro
Transcription word by word quickly appearing and disappearing in the middle of the screen is unreadable and ruins the images.
It seems impossible to me that the first dialogue is real, a real controller would never say something so stupid, even if I had been surprised sometimes when flying to the US.
And the last one is 99% a conversation between the pilots and company dispatch or operations, no ATC.
These people are all grumpy. That''s not taught in flight school AFAIK.
Professionalnpilots sometimes make pissing competition....
She Googled it? She's assuming that a 17 year old Google intern knows more than a pilot.
Pilot in menopause 😮!
No Manopause
MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY works a lot better
Cut to 2024 and even RyanAir service is better than if Luft
Googled it 15 years ago? ATC people really suck now a days
we're also not RianAir :D :D :D
Ryan Air
First one I believe is fake no googling in the tower
It’s actually real lol
WOW! I'm not sure if this is funny, sad, or frightening?
Bunch of spoilt, silly little children!
Pilots are an arrogant bunch, from what I have seen.😦
The egos of.pilots.🙄
They are basically just bus drivers in sky.
ATC was wrong though....
no, they really arent.
D E I already put into place may cause chaos and deaths. Including the YT reviewer and their Family with us all together......
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Click bait.
My first experience as an airline passenger was in summer 1977. I've loved flying for almost all of that time. With all the woke DEI stuff going on with commercial aviation personnel, I am terrified to fly. Such incredible amateurism. I now drive which makes me landlocked in the Americas. Sad times but at least I stand a chance of surviving the trip.
Seventies were a fun time to fly . Courteous passengers well dressed. Attractive hostesses in mini skirts. Decent snacks, Grey hair heads in the cockpits
@@jimarcher5255😁
Hello! im second!
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Traffic controllers are responsible for millions of lies every day it just sad to me to see these pilots. Give them a hard time when all they’re trying to do is their job which is keep everyone safe.
Except the ATC is completely in the wrong on this one.
But she googled it
Short approach by definition: “a short approach means any time you start your base leg before your downwind leg reaches abeam the threshold of the runway.” Pilot was WRONG.
FAA Advisory Circular AC_90-66C “A short approach is executed when the pilot makes an abbreviated downwind, base, and final legs turning inside of the standard 90-degree base turn. This can be requested at a towered airport for aircraft spacing, but is more commonly used at a non-towered airport or a part-time-towered airport when the control tower is not operating, when landing with a simulated engine out or completing a power-off 180-degree accuracy approach commercial-rating maneuver.”
Nope.
Actually, you're wrong.
Did you Google that? 😂
You must have googled the same info as the controller
See the advisory circular DarthVader guy referenced. That is regulatory
just like a women, that's right, I said it!!! because I google it first!!!