Apollo 7 was lost in the shadows of Apollo 8 yet theirs mission was as much a high wire event as its processor, though unsung. Much was made o Schirra's gruff conduct, particularly with Flight Director Glynn Lunney's changes. However, Wally was under a great deal of stress. He had a rookie crew, a re-designed spacecraft and that being of the new type: block II. His training period was long but fragmented as it also involved being involved in the re-fit and function of the CM and Wally wanted it right. Having the burden of having a flight perform perfectly so 8 could go to the moon really worked on him, I believe. Also, as Chris Kraft later admitted. "Apollo 1 scared the hell out of him."
He also had a head cold - and in zero-G, the mucus doesn't drain off, so he must have felt really congested, and that would have made him really grumpy. He said 'Paranoid and Jekyll and Hyde were words that got thrown around...but I really wanted to do everything perfectly"
LM5, it is with great sadness that I must inform you that Flight Director Glynn Lunney passed away today. He felt no pain, he was at peace. My condolences go out to his family including his son Flight Director Bryan Lunney.
In a little more than two weeks of October 1968 I got to see my first World Series and first space mission. The World Series ended the day before Apollo 7 launched (Oct. 10 & 11). I was seven years old and just starting second grade, but have been hooked on baseball & space stuff since. What was really great was that around the same time the school teachers in NYC were on strike and we didn't have to go to school for almost two months. 1968 was a pretty grim year in American history, but October-December weren't too bad for a NY school kid with the Tigers winning the World Series, Apollos 7 & 8, and two months without school.
At 15:49; "Cunningham is a fearless iconoclast who will tell off anyone he feels is wrong without pausing for diplomacy". Gee, Jules, tell us what you really think!
The unsaid portion of this explanation of this crewman explains better why things went so bad and so stubbornly.. their attitudes cost them a seat to the moon.
Outstanding job, Simon and Brian! A real joy to watch and re-live. I could watch this stuff all day. As a kid during the early days of shuttle, I made good use of our early era VHS machine and taped news coverage just like this, and always enjoyed re-watching those broadcasts with fascination. With work like yours, I still do! Thanks!
Had the US known how far behind the USSR was, we could have possibly taken a slower flight rate and perhaps saved money and extended Apollo much longer.
Great job grabbing this event. Considering all that had happened before October 1968, this must have returned a sense of normalcy just ahead of the election of Richard Nixon and the Christmastime flight of Apollo 8.
Yes..walley got it ans it spread to whole crew in hours. They were indeed crabby about manny a thing including the colds. The mission controll were getting so irritated, 90% of which never made it to an official NASA Loop. When walley refused to put the helmet on for the landing there were several gaskets blowing on the heads of Mission Controll, especially the head of astronaut services, Deke Slaton,who tried his own diplomatic reasoning to no sucess. Chris craft later said that was the last straw, if they managed to make it back and land alive without their helmets they wouldnt ever need to wory their swelled heads ever again about needing to wear another helmet on another Spacecraft. They all indeed were grounded never to fly again on Apollo. They didnt get the typical Congressional medals, visit to President, or ticker tape parade...Congress did eventually give the three men their Award in late 2000s after deaths of the men. The signs started off funny, but began to sour with every telecast. If you can catch the last talk from Deke to the crew...that historical back and forth wasnt common knowledge to many...it was the helmet refusal that was the nail in the coffin.
10:50 What can I say. Today the Flat Earth Society is BACK with a vengeance. Luckily, the rest of us are "insane" enough to believe in a spherical Earth. I wonder if I punch "flat earthers" in the face they'll believe my fist is an "optical illusion"?
Excellent as usual, Simon. Nice wrap-up by Eric Sevareid! Good to see the evening summary reports, as they added some other segments you wouldn't normally see. Same with the live footage from Walt & The Boys. All we ever see in docs is the "Apollo room..." segment. Fun to see Uncle Walter in the Apollo CM. I have a picture of him in a Mercury mock-up ~1961--only 7 years earlier.
I found some lost gems on RUclips that you might want to share Simon. One is CBS full coverage of the Apollo 12 moon landing and the other is CBS full coverage of Buzz Aldrins spacewalk on Gemini 12. Let me know how to send them to you if your interested in sharing them with the group . Thanks Simon
On btms channel? That channel has a load of space related coverage, well worth a trawl through. I have watched both the videos there you describe, pity about the watermark, but great to see in such high quality
Hi Simon, I overlooked this one and just got to it today. Great as always along with everyone else I always wonder where you get this great footage from. Have you ever thought about doing a longer version of Apollo 7. I know let the footage is hard if not impossible to find, just something to think about. Great if always, keep up the good work. Regards Jim.
Many thanks for putting this together Simon. I do remember some of the TV coverage of the time, but not in great detail (I was 10). It's interesting to note the discussion of the behaviour of the crew (particularly Schirra). Little did the public appreciate at the time, but the fallout resulted in the essential ending of the NASA careers of both Eisele and Cunningham, and the crew didn't receive the NASA Distinguished Service Medal till some 40 years after all of their fellow Apollo astronauts.
Yes - the media was keen to keep the programme in a good light so downplayed the very serious acrimony that emerged between the crew and Mission Control. In the first live TV coverage from the spacecraft you can really sense that the crew don't really want to be doing it - because Wally had fought like a dog to keep TV coverage out of the mission and his loyal crew supported him. Great work LM5.
@@EricIrl Wally was an ass. He didn't want, as he later put it, a "long, boring" flight. Meanwhile there were about 30 other astronauts who would have killed for it, so he should have just given it up to someone who wanted to do it. Meanwhile he bitched and moaned for the 10 days he was in space. His loyal crew supported him but he showed no consideration for them. He knew Chris Kraft and I'm sure he knew he was ruining the careers of his crew, but he was quitting the program after the mission so they couldn't touch him. As for the TV cameras, the American taxpayer was footing the bill ($20 billion dollars) to send him to space and had a right to see how their money was being spent. Other, later astronauts were astute enough to know that the TV was essential to continuing public support (meaning taxpayer dollars) for the program. Wally should have just quit after Gemini 6.
There's nothing on RUclips that delights me more than a new LM5 video.
Glad to be of service Captain!
RIP Walt Cunningham, who passed away here in Houston, Texas yesterday, at 90 years old. Godspeed Walt!
Apollo 7 was lost in the shadows of Apollo 8 yet theirs mission was as much a high wire event as its processor, though unsung. Much was made o Schirra's gruff conduct, particularly with Flight Director Glynn Lunney's changes. However, Wally was under a great deal of stress. He had a rookie crew, a re-designed spacecraft and that being of the new type: block II. His training period was long but fragmented as it also involved being involved in the re-fit and function of the CM and Wally wanted it right. Having the burden of having a flight perform perfectly so 8 could go to the moon really worked on him, I believe. Also, as Chris Kraft later admitted. "Apollo 1 scared the hell out of him."
He also had a head cold - and in zero-G, the mucus doesn't drain off, so he must have felt really congested, and that would have made him really grumpy. He said 'Paranoid and Jekyll and Hyde were words that got thrown around...but I really wanted to do everything perfectly"
Up until this mission, I thought he would have been first in line for the 1st landing.
LM5, it is with great sadness that I must inform you that Flight Director Glynn Lunney passed away today. He felt no pain, he was at peace. My condolences go out to his family including his son Flight Director Bryan Lunney.
R.I.P. Mr. LUNNEY
Incredibly exciting time when news anchors and correspondents knew what they were talking about. Thanks very much for this thrilling piece of history.
Jules Bergman was a great reporter and analyst. Very credible.
Question: "Are you a turtle?"
Required Answer: "You bet your sweet ass I am!"
I vonder where Guenter wendt ?
He wendt to das boot.
In a little more than two weeks of October 1968 I got to see my first World Series and first space mission. The World Series ended the day before Apollo 7 launched (Oct. 10 & 11). I was seven years old and just starting second grade, but have been hooked on baseball & space stuff since. What was really great was that around the same time the school teachers in NYC were on strike and we didn't have to go to school for almost two months. 1968 was a pretty grim year in American history, but October-December weren't too bad for a NY school kid with the Tigers winning the World Series, Apollos 7 & 8, and two months without school.
At 15:49; "Cunningham is a fearless iconoclast who will tell off anyone he feels is wrong without pausing for diplomacy".
Gee, Jules, tell us what you really think!
The unsaid portion of this explanation of this crewman explains better why things went so bad and so stubbornly.. their attitudes cost them a seat to the moon.
You never cease to amaze with the old vintage news coverage you come up with. I could watch this stuff all day long. This is freaking AWESOME!!
Been wanting to do this one a while...found the time..glad u liked it MM
Outstanding job, Simon and Brian! A real joy to watch and re-live. I could watch this stuff all day. As a kid during the early days of shuttle, I made good use of our early era VHS machine and taped news coverage just like this, and always enjoyed re-watching those broadcasts with fascination. With work like yours, I still do! Thanks!
Jim, I was a bit like that myself once I owned MY first VCR in the early 1990s when I was in my early 20's! :) :)
This is just my work.. Brian and I are working on Apollo 12 EVA
@@pinedelgado4743 I still have many of those tapes. First MMU spacewalk, Westar and Palapa satellite retrieval, and certainly Challenger.
Had the US known how far behind the USSR was, we could have possibly taken a slower flight rate and perhaps saved money and extended Apollo much longer.
Great job grabbing this event. Considering all that had happened before October 1968, this must have returned a sense of normalcy just ahead of the election of Richard Nixon and the Christmastime flight of Apollo 8.
Was this the flight where someone had a cold and a really crappy attitude and never flew again?
Yes..walley got it ans it spread to whole crew in hours. They were indeed crabby about manny a thing including the colds. The mission controll were getting so irritated, 90% of which never made it to an official NASA Loop. When walley refused to put the helmet on for the landing there were several gaskets blowing on the heads of Mission Controll, especially the head of astronaut services, Deke Slaton,who tried his own diplomatic reasoning to no sucess. Chris craft later said that was the last straw, if they managed to make it back and land alive without their helmets they wouldnt ever need to wory their swelled heads ever again about needing to wear another helmet on another Spacecraft. They all indeed were grounded never to fly again on Apollo. They didnt get the typical Congressional medals, visit to President, or ticker tape parade...Congress did eventually give the three men their Award in late 2000s after deaths of the men. The signs started off funny, but began to sour with every telecast.
If you can catch the last talk from Deke to the crew...that historical back and forth wasnt common knowledge to many...it was the helmet refusal that was the nail in the coffin.
I love the report on the Flat Earth Society.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LOL!!! :) :) :)
The FES has thousands of members all around the globe.
That surprised the SHEES out of me. Like ohh gaaa. Way back then? But i was only 8yo. No thought of opinions..
10:50 What can I say. Today the Flat Earth Society is BACK with a vengeance. Luckily, the rest of us are "insane" enough to believe in a spherical Earth. I wonder if I punch "flat earthers" in the face they'll believe my fist is an "optical illusion"?
Jules Bergman, making it all about him. He always had a reputation for, shall we say, pomposity.
10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 we have ignition comet Liftoff we have liftoff this is launch control we have cleared the tower.
Excellent as usual, Simon. Nice wrap-up by Eric Sevareid! Good to see the evening summary reports, as they added some other segments you wouldn't normally see. Same with the live footage from Walt & The Boys. All we ever see in docs is the "Apollo room..." segment. Fun to see Uncle Walter in the Apollo CM. I have a picture of him in a Mercury mock-up ~1961--only 7 years earlier.
This is awesome as a possum with a blossom footage you're giving us, LM5!!! Thank U!!! Keep 'em coming!! Keep 'em coming!! :) :)
Thanks as always Pine
Thanks for your post! More space stuff, please!
I am going as quickly as I can lol
10:51 😂
Looks like I’ve got something to watch tonight, thanks Simon!
Enjoy!
@@lunarmodule5 On a Saturn 1, were the 4 core engines known as K4's engines & 4 outboard J2's?
LBJ's television setup is amusing for some reason. 📺📺📺
Reminded me of Dr Evils lair...
@@lunarmodule5 That's it! lol
@Larry Dreiling No I'm imagining three Cronkite's at the same time. 😆
He always had the 3 main networks on simultaneously.
@@robz7789 sicko
Great success with the new capsule. Where would be without that fire of Apolo 1, even so sad it cost 3 lifes
Would love this same treatment of Apollo 8 coverage.
I can't believe there were flat earther fools even back in 1968.
I found some lost gems on RUclips that you might want to share Simon. One is CBS full coverage of the Apollo 12 moon landing and the other is CBS full coverage of Buzz Aldrins spacewalk on Gemini 12. Let me know how to send them to you if your interested in sharing them with the group . Thanks Simon
On btms channel? That channel has a load of space related coverage, well worth a trawl through. I have watched both the videos there you describe, pity about the watermark, but great to see in such high quality
Hi Simon, I overlooked this one and just got to it today. Great as always along with everyone else I always wonder where you get this great footage from. Have you ever thought about doing a longer version of Apollo 7. I know let the footage is hard if not impossible to find, just something to think about. Great if always, keep up the good work. Regards Jim.
Thanks Jim. Amazed at how many want this flight, but as of now NASA has still not released the audio..as soon as they do....
Lunar module 5.... I love you. These are amazing.
Wow. Absolute broadcasting legends.
I missed this too ,gonna catch up listening to it this weekend thank you LM5 🤗
Lol what is going on Yassine?! Hope all ok
Much needed. Thanks mate.
Anytime Stevey...
The Flat Earth Society. 1968 ( and before) never relised that mentality as for back then..geeezz
I want a model that comes apart like what the news person is using.
you and me both dmh!
Many thanks for putting this together Simon.
I do remember some of the TV coverage of the time, but not in great detail (I was 10).
It's interesting to note the discussion of the behaviour of the crew (particularly Schirra).
Little did the public appreciate at the time, but the fallout resulted in the essential ending of the NASA careers of both Eisele and Cunningham, and the crew didn't receive the NASA Distinguished Service Medal till some 40 years after all of their fellow Apollo astronauts.
Yes - the media was keen to keep the programme in a good light so downplayed the very serious acrimony that emerged between the crew and Mission Control.
In the first live TV coverage from the spacecraft you can really sense that the crew don't really want to be doing it - because Wally had fought like a dog to keep TV coverage out of the mission and his loyal crew supported him.
Great work LM5.
You can't have mutiny in space or anywhere else though
@@EricIrl Wally was an ass. He didn't want, as he later put it, a "long, boring" flight. Meanwhile there were about 30 other astronauts who would have killed for it, so he should have just given it up to someone who wanted to do it. Meanwhile he bitched and moaned for the 10 days he was in space. His loyal crew supported him but he showed no consideration for them. He knew Chris Kraft and I'm sure he knew he was ruining the careers of his crew, but he was quitting the program after the mission so they couldn't touch him.
As for the TV cameras, the American taxpayer was footing the bill ($20 billion dollars) to send him to space and had a right to see how their money was being spent. Other, later astronauts were astute enough to know that the TV was essential to continuing public support (meaning taxpayer dollars) for the program. Wally should have just quit after Gemini 6.
First comment! How do you get the 10-second date stamp?
Its already on the footage
OK.
You nailed the ending of the video!!
Yeah but I got lucky..it was the last one..and fit well
That is sick, thanks for sharing
Welcome!
Podrías subir el video de la reentrada del Skylab 4 🚀👍
I will have to have a look for it - it wasnt broadcast live on TV
@@lunarmodule5 how strange that it was not trasmitted 😞😞🤨
Fascinating.
It's nice to see footage other than the live stuff sometimes
TY LM5!
Welcome!
haha flat earther, amazing
Can anyone explain the "Are you a turtle?" joke?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_and_Honorable_Order_of_Turtles