“A WASPI Woman Dies Every 13 Minutes” Women’s Lives ‘Ruined’ By Pensions Age Change

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  • Опубликовано: 21 мар 2024
  • Rishi Sunak has been urged to “do the right thing” and set aside billions in compensation for women whose lives were “ruined” when they were not told in good enough time about the rise in the state pension age.
    The direct plea to the Prime Minister followed a report which concluded that those affected by state pension changes that were not communicated adequately should receive an apology and payouts.
    The Parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman (PHSO) has asked Parliament to intervene and “act swiftly” to make sure a compensation scheme is established.
    The ombudsman said the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has not acknowledged its failings nor put things right for those affected.
    Women Against State Pension Inequality (Waspi) campaigners said it is time for supportive politicians to “put their money where their mouth is” with “a proper compensation package”.
    TalkTV’s Jake Berry speaks with chair of WASPI campaign in 2018 Hilary Simpson.
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Комментарии • 430

  • @paulshanesmith
    @paulshanesmith 2 месяца назад +122

    So all of the men who were working up to the age of 65 whilst the women were being given a pension at 60, are they going to be given 5 years backdated pension and 5 years of their lives back?

    • @janwhite6038
      @janwhite6038 2 месяца назад +35

      The circumstances for 1950s men abd women were totally different. Women were sacked by employers when pregnant, excluded from company pension schemes and there was no equal pay for equal work. Are you old enough to remember the discrimation against working women?

    • @jaid2383
      @jaid2383 2 месяца назад

      Commenting when you haven't even watched the video or read what actually happened you lazy twat.

    • @danw5760
      @danw5760 2 месяца назад +17

      ​@@janwhite6038 i think you have misunderstood, this was not effecting pension age people in the 1950s, the people this affected are contemporary.

    • @paulshanesmith
      @paulshanesmith 2 месяца назад +23

      @@janwhite6038 how individual women were treated by individual employers is not the issue at hand here.. the WASPI campaign is about how some women are being affected by changes to pension rules, changes that were made 29 years ago and at least 15 years before they started to come into effect. Anyone who supports actual equality and not just equality when it suits will recognise that many more men suffered an even bigger pension injustice over an even longer period, from 1940 to 2010 and beyond.

    • @Dana-ml7sy
      @Dana-ml7sy 2 месяца назад +8

      No. They always knew they were to retire at 65 but some men have lost 1 year when the government increased it up to 66. No men complained at the time either.

  • @rogerwilson6367
    @rogerwilson6367 2 месяца назад +69

    Sunak has no trouble finding money for illegal migrants, French people smugglers (aka french government), Ukraine, MPs pay rises, just to name a few.

    • @suzann2531
      @suzann2531 2 месяца назад +14

      Yes I agree all £36 Billon pound since 2020 apparently for jobless legal and illegal immigrants and foreign students.

  • @Thereishope664
    @Thereishope664 2 месяца назад +5

    How utterly shameful that WASPI women have been denied their pension whilst the government gives billions to people who illegally enter our country.

  • @garethparker7898
    @garethparker7898 2 месяца назад +20

    Saving £10k every 13 mins, not much incentive for government to pay out anytime soon

  • @andybarnard4575
    @andybarnard4575 2 месяца назад +16

    Apparently since 1995 they saved hard and planned carefully for their pension but for some reason failed to check when it actually started. I was always told that ignorance of the law is no excuse - that is, unless you are a WASPI woman it seems (if the pensions ombudsman's latest report is to believed).

  • @smartysmart3116
    @smartysmart3116 2 месяца назад +47

    From 1948 until 2010 the State Pension age was 60 for women and 65 for men, with women consistently having longer life spans i.e. contributed less and paid out more, yet this report states women need to be compensated because they have gained parity (equality) with men; can someone explain this to me?

    • @MrJaspett
      @MrJaspett 2 месяца назад +8

      It was unnannounced, the affected women arranged to retire and then found they couldn't claim for 3 years, some of them having given up their work on the assumption that no changes had been made. The women arranged their affairs on the basis that they understood the pension age. It's not that the move ot equality is bad, it's that they were not told until the point of claiming.

    • @seanfindlay1521
      @seanfindlay1521 2 месяца назад +26

      ​@MrJaspett it was announced in 1995, and put into law in 2010? I think that's more than enough time to realise what age you are allowed to retire

    • @uanime1
      @uanime1 2 месяца назад

      Women only want equality when it benefits them.

    • @OwenMc1992
      @OwenMc1992 2 месяца назад +8

      @@MrJaspett It wasn't unannounced. They've known since 1995.

    • @andreaconroy3623
      @andreaconroy3623 2 месяца назад +3

      I had to work an extra 6 years during which time I had late stage cancer too. Males of our generation grew up expecting to work until they were 65 before becoming pensionable like their Fathers. Females of our generation grew up with the expectation that they would be pensionable at 60 like their Mothers. It's not even so much about that - although it it - but that there was very little notice given - it was not communicated to us.

  • @adamwalkington6361
    @adamwalkington6361 2 месяца назад +73

    Men worked 5 years longer for a period of decades. These wasp women were a select group of women that were only affected for a few years

    • @ossianx8752
      @ossianx8752 2 месяца назад +10

      And they lived shorter lives making them less expensive to the state and pension funds too ....

    • @uanime1
      @uanime1 2 месяца назад +4

      They had 15 years to make adjustments.

    • @andreaconroy3623
      @andreaconroy3623 2 месяца назад +3

      Not true - we haven't been affected for a few years, we have been affected since we were 60 until we die. I had to work an extra 6 years during which time I had late stage cancer too. Males of our generation grew up expecting to work until they were 65 before becoming pensionable like their Fathers. Females of our generation grew up with the expectation that they would be pensionable at 60 like their Mothers. It's not even so much about that - although it it - but that there was very little notice given - it was not communicated to us.

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 2 месяца назад

      Few =6 yrs
      To long if in school
      Jail.
      Employer

    • @adamwalkington6361
      @adamwalkington6361 2 месяца назад +4

      @@andreaconroy3623 They was told 15 years in advance and this is about fairness so its not fair unless were gonna pay all the men too which is ridiculous and wont happen

  • @kidzngrandkidz840
    @kidzngrandkidz840 2 месяца назад +8

    I’m one of the women who had to wait for my pension, I spent my early married life raising children at a time when there was no help with child care and women’s wages were not equal to men’s, the “parasites” in power don’t really want to pay us (men or women) any pensions, they want us to work till we drop.

    • @lorna5193
      @lorna5193 2 месяца назад +4

      True and the way the pension age keeps going up that will be the case.

    • @nickmiller76
      @nickmiller76 2 месяца назад +1

      @@lorna5193 Yeah, same for men. It's called "equality".

    • @muchiosgracias4
      @muchiosgracias4 Месяц назад

      ​@@lorna5193lol keep working

    • @eljay5009
      @eljay5009 13 дней назад

      Having children was your choice - why should I and other tax payers pay for your choices?

  • @tombartram7384
    @tombartram7384 2 месяца назад +39

    Oh dear. Men and women treated equally. Cant have that now, can we?

    • @bonniestar4707
      @bonniestar4707 25 дней назад

      Women took a few years out of work to care for the children when there wasn't help with childcare costs before they came of school age. So equality doesn't always work that way. Kind of like putting the same size shoes in front of everyone and expecting them all to fit everyone's foot size and calling that "equality"

  • @Warbsy1990
    @Warbsy1990 2 месяца назад +3

    I don't understand how I (now in my early 30s) have been aware of the changing ages of pension entitlement starting... Yet the people who it will be directly affected can have been blissfully unaware.
    It feels as though because they had obviously just buried their heads in the sand and not actually been aware of current political events nor taken an active role in the planning of their retirement/pension, they can now get a potential payout.
    I've known the goalposts have been moving, and I have effectively resigned myself to not likely having a retirement or pension because it will only extend further and further in the future as we have an ageing population.

  • @paullegend6798
    @paullegend6798 2 месяца назад +27

    0:55 - "No way of knowing about it".... FOR 20 YEARS SINCE 1995, never read newspapers, watched the news, ever googled about pensions, or checked their pension in the online calculator. An amoeba might have an excuse for not knowing but a sentient human doesn't. What a joke. Lets shovel £8bn of free money which we don't have to utter morons. Country is a joke.

    • @linda-nl8ib
      @linda-nl8ib 2 месяца назад

      But we had 8 Million a day for years and years for people bringing in their whole family who will never ever work isn't that a joke and gettingeverythingfor FREE ?????

    • @thejdemon
      @thejdemon 2 месяца назад +2

      Sad case is, society only moves as fast as the slowest among it in 'modern times'...

    • @TheLyny15
      @TheLyny15 2 месяца назад

      Future Pensions didnt exist in its present form in 2012. I found out at 59 in 2013 after ringing Work & Pensions. Im all for equality but this should have been introduced by pushing back yearly so it was phased in. I had to wait 6 years with only intermittent work due to ageism and sexism.

    • @suecarr323
      @suecarr323 2 месяца назад +1

      I was told I'd have to work till I was 63 which I did no one said I wouldn't get a full pension,I know of men being in the same situation as me we were robbed

  • @TC-lb4gl
    @TC-lb4gl 2 месяца назад +26

    It's shocking to hear that women want more money for working less again. I mean didn't anyone tell them that one of the responsibilities of being a worker is to also set aside your own money and not just simply blow every dollar of your paycheck and expect a free paycheck to start later to support you?

    • @AyyyVik
      @AyyyVik 2 месяца назад +3

      while I agree with your main points, you're absolutely misinformed about your own currency.
      Anyone trying to "set money aside" should not do it in the currency, but instead via silver or gold, because those keep value. GBP, the Dollar, they do not keep value, they are depreciating (by design, as it's all debt based).

    • @andreaconroy3623
      @andreaconroy3623 2 месяца назад

      We're not talking dollars - we're talking £££££s - in the UK. We have a different system here.

    • @lorna5193
      @lorna5193 2 месяца назад

      Spoken like a man.

    • @AyyyVik
      @AyyyVik 2 месяца назад

      @@andreaconroy3623 the GBP isn't backed by gold, either. any currency that isn't backed by precious metals inevitably ends up suffering due to inflation

    • @armosamarosso
      @armosamarosso 2 месяца назад

      Nah most of these women own nice houses mortgage free, they are sitting on enough wealth for another government handout. The government had been planning this for years, and anyway, it was the EU that ruled pension ages had to be equal, so maybe they should go crying to the EU for the money they say they lost out on.

  • @icarus877
    @icarus877 2 месяца назад +21

    Mmmm, as a man do I feel full of compassion and support for these ladies - NO. Men have had it far harder for far longer.

  • @DanBray1991
    @DanBray1991 2 месяца назад +3

    Nice bit of misinformation right at the start there. The report found that women 'had' been informed, however once the DWP found out awareness rates were low, they took 28 months longer than they could have been. Who the hell retires without checking the rules anyway?

  • @MrLuckysodiam
    @MrLuckysodiam 2 месяца назад +18

    Women live longer than men, work less hours than men, in less strenuous environments than men, in less stressful roles than men. In general. They have more rights than men, not equal. And have the law firmly on their side in any domestic dispute. And still, despite getting voting rights, are not included in military drafts in times of war. Despite all these advantages, it's not enough. They still want more. So to pay for the shortfall if women retire at 60, just make it illegal for men to retire eh. Always standing on the backs of men, so they don't get their feet wet, claiming oppression. Pathetic. Oppression and equality are now just weapons of the grifters.

    • @MrLuckysodiam
      @MrLuckysodiam 2 месяца назад +2

      But all that said. If our government stopped importing the dregs of society from the third world that claim benefits at twice the rate of the indigenous population, these problems wouldn't exist. Half of all social housing in london is in foreign hands. 75% of the Somali population of this country are in social housing. Only 50% of the imported muslim men in this country work. Only 25% of the women. They continually bring over people that rely on state hand outs to survive. Why? If the population are reliant on the state, then the state are in complete control of the population. Why do you think the indigenous population are ignored by this state, because we don't need them.

    • @EpicAelflaed
      @EpicAelflaed 2 месяца назад

      They had it easy for a long time - they complain about unfairness - it’s not unfair now so woman up and accent it

    • @markfox1545
      @markfox1545 2 месяца назад +2

      Wow, fella, PLEASE learn when to use 'fewer' and 'less'.

  • @williambowers9868
    @williambowers9868 2 месяца назад +42

    My wife had to wait an extra 3 years, She didn't moan about it, Stayed in her job until she could claim her pension.

    • @susanbishop5228
      @susanbishop5228 2 месяца назад +10

      Here you are speaking for her .

    • @AvengedKittyLP
      @AvengedKittyLP 2 месяца назад +11

      @@susanbishop5228 Yeah because its his wife. My partner knows what I think and do. They can say the same thing for me. Why does it matter which sex is talking?
      My mum is the same, she just works, doesn't complain and gets over it.

    • @valeriegreenaway5981
      @valeriegreenaway5981 2 месяца назад +2

      I'm having to wait an additional 6 years until 66 to claim, others may wait even longer and I was unwell before 60! It also depends on what type of work is being done

    • @PaulaSB12
      @PaulaSB12 2 месяца назад +1

      I have to wait until I am 67 for my state pension

    • @andreaconroy3623
      @andreaconroy3623 2 месяца назад +1

      I has to work an extra 6 years!

  • @jeffoakley2331
    @jeffoakley2331 2 месяца назад +21

    I have a lot of women friends and they are embarrassed by this and many of them were affected by the changes. They feel that any woman who did not know must have been living in a cave or too lazy to care about their financial future. It was well publicised, letters were sent as most women knew directly there was outrage at the time, TV programs covered it and yet somehow they did not know. As one woman friend said it makes women seem stupid that they now claim not to know. this is like PPI and other things where people feel they might get something all jumping on a bandwagon. The Ombudsman has not said what they did was wrong, just that perhaps they could have done more to keep chasing people. Equality is what they wanted but like in Animal Farm, some wanted more eqality

    • @thejdemon
      @thejdemon 2 месяца назад

      Animal farm is accurate. Everyone equal, just some are more equal than others. It will never change though.

  • @antonygill5104
    @antonygill5104 2 месяца назад +4

    That is always the government response leave it as long as possible, all people have to do is look how long it took the government to pay compensation to haemophiliacs three decades most had died and the payment was 16 thousand for a life of pain what a joke

  • @yomihassan-oladele1398
    @yomihassan-oladele1398 2 месяца назад +18

    i do feel for them only having been given 15 years notice

    • @andreaconroy3623
      @andreaconroy3623 2 месяца назад

      Not true.

    • @Edi-r1888
      @Edi-r1888 2 месяца назад +6

      @@andreaconroy3623you’re correct, it was probably even longer.

    • @DanBray1991
      @DanBray1991 2 месяца назад

      @@andreaconroy3623 very true, even the report said between 1995-2005 and 2009-2018 they were notified multiple times. It was the period between 2006 and 2009 that got the DWP into trouble.

  • @GR-tz9wf
    @GR-tz9wf 2 месяца назад +41

    I hope they're gonna give all the men compensation for the extra five years we had to work for decades

    • @andreaconroy3623
      @andreaconroy3623 2 месяца назад +3

      No, because you spent your life growing up expecting to work that extra 5 years, females did not. We grew up expecting, as our Mothers did, to be pensionable at age 60.

    • @lorna5193
      @lorna5193 2 месяца назад

      That would be a no.

    • @EpicAelflaed
      @EpicAelflaed 2 месяца назад

      @@andreaconroy3623 it changed a long time ago that women wanted to work - they like men ‘work’
      So why should a man have to work 5 years longer than women? Sexist

    • @dh1474
      @dh1474 2 месяца назад +1

      Even with the 15 years notice that was given.. enough time to change expectations and get equality..@@andreaconroy3623

    • @thejdemon
      @thejdemon 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@andreaconroy3623You grew up wanting to keep the privilege you had then. A woman against equality... interesting.

  • @dawnpiper5883
    @dawnpiper5883 2 месяца назад +6

    I have worked since I was 15 I'm 63 and yes it would be nice if the stinking government stopped putting the retirement age further out of reach if you can work and want to fair enough personally I am on my knees and expecting to die before I retire all I wanted was a couple of years to enjoy before I peg it

    • @dh1474
      @dh1474 2 месяца назад

      Should have started investing a bit earlier..

    • @martincarter5693
      @martincarter5693 2 месяца назад +1

      You didn’t start work at 15 I’m older than you and school leaving age was min 16 get your years right

    • @bonniestar4707
      @bonniestar4707 25 дней назад

      @@martincarter5693 No it isn't, not if you were born in the summer. I left school at 15.

  • @user-jx3ms6pd9m
    @user-jx3ms6pd9m 2 месяца назад +15

    Im confused, i knew the rules changed 1990s, what were these women thinking, it was allovet the press

    • @anngray4728
      @anngray4728 2 месяца назад

      No it wasn’t,and I was never sent a letter.

    • @petelawrence1282
      @petelawrence1282 2 месяца назад +3

      @@anngray4728 The headlines on this don't represent the actual findings. The report says that between 1994 & 2004, the leaflets/website/campaigns were up to standards. It says that they could have done better between 2004 & 2006 - and some people could have received better communication 28 months earlier (of the very public 1995 decision). Not sure why this leads to compensation claims....

    • @OwenMc1992
      @OwenMc1992 2 месяца назад

      @@anngray4728 Not everyone elses fault you have the mental capacity of a slug ann.

    • @user-jx3ms6pd9m
      @user-jx3ms6pd9m 2 месяца назад

      Fraid it was ann. I didnt get or need a letter. Public knowlege

  • @smac6880
    @smac6880 2 месяца назад +2

    Pay the women what they lost plus interest. If owing tax to HMRC they would charge interest and penalties on money owed. There is money for plenty of woke nonsense. Pay the women who have worked all their lives and contributed to their country. Thank you Hillary and the WASPI team.

  • @marumaru6084
    @marumaru6084 2 месяца назад +28

    They want inequality! Was there ever a lower priority for spending billions!

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 2 месяца назад +1

      Not about equality its about failure to inform of vast change that has ruined many lives.

    • @lorna5193
      @lorna5193 2 месяца назад

      If it were men it would have been sorted out years ago.

    • @marumaru6084
      @marumaru6084 2 месяца назад

      @@joprocter4573 The change was about Equality as you know. Nothing else!

    • @marumaru6084
      @marumaru6084 2 месяца назад

      @@lorna5193 Yes they would be asked to pay!

    • @eyesodd
      @eyesodd 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@joprocter4573Is fifteen years not enough warning then, that's when the law changed.

  • @michaelbuick6995
    @michaelbuick6995 2 месяца назад +7

    "Equality" is just code for "give me money".

  • @davidmoore2308
    @davidmoore2308 2 месяца назад +11

    Does this mean the rest of us will have to work past 66 to pay for these women to retire at 60.?

    • @andreaconroy3623
      @andreaconroy3623 2 месяца назад

      You already do - the Government has us all on a sliding scale - chances are if you are under 50 you will be working until you're 75.

  • @feliciadaniel72
    @feliciadaniel72 2 месяца назад +4

    The goverment should just pay us our compensation.Theyve tried to work us to death,and while we live on a pittance theyre living it up on the taxes that we have all paid throughout our working lives.

    • @nickmiller76
      @nickmiller76 2 месяца назад

      No one was ever "worked to death" in HR. On the other hand: in mining, ship-building, construction, deep-sea fishing.......

    • @isildursbane2758
      @isildursbane2758 2 месяца назад

      No you should get nothing you already retire before men what happened to equal rights not when it goes against you eh 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @peterg463
    @peterg463 2 месяца назад +2

    Women here in the uk, live longer than men. That is why the country cannot afford womens pensions. If if were the other way round and men lived longer than women, the feminists would be demanding research to regulate the difference. In the old days, when the UK had a manufacturing base, cynical governments forced men to work five years longer than women because they knew that nen would die earlier and save paying any pension to them. Even now men live shorter lives. So, i dont feel sorry for these women, they knew that they wouldn't receive a pension, so they should have carried on working and saved. Equality comes at a price, as Birmingham City council found out.

    • @mikeoglen6848
      @mikeoglen6848 2 месяца назад

      I believe it's Bankrupted them? Never mind they are putting the Taxes up now to claw it all back...

  • @Steve157Oh
    @Steve157Oh 2 месяца назад +12

    Or "Women complain about having to work as long as men..."

  • @lankriverfront8360
    @lankriverfront8360 2 месяца назад +11

    For decades women have shouted that they should be equivalent to men in terms or pay etc. Yet when they are made equal it is shouted about. WHY should compensation be paid t women who had their retirement age made equal to mens?
    Men hd been forced to work longer than women, yet they lived a shorter life!
    Just because it was not in their favour it is unfair is not a valid excuse to ask them t continue to work for a few years more.

    • @bonniestar4707
      @bonniestar4707 25 дней назад

      Women have had to take time out of their careers because of pregnancy and to raise the child until they are of school age before going back to work again, so these women have been doing another kind of work. 3

    • @eljay5009
      @eljay5009 13 дней назад

      @@bonniestar4707 No women had to do that - having children is a choice. Also - many women don't have children, yet still got to retire at 60, and many men who raised children as single fathers had to wait until 65.

    • @bonniestar4707
      @bonniestar4707 13 дней назад

      @@eljay5009 Most women back then did have kids, as birth control was less prevalent than now, and even now it is not a fail safe. Women for years have not been able to vote and now they are losing out a different way. As the Barbie movie says "Women hate women and men hate women".

    • @eljay5009
      @eljay5009 12 дней назад

      @@bonniestar4707 Even if most women did have kids, that doesn't invalidate my point - women without were still allowed to retire early.
      Don't bring the ability to vote into this. Women got the right to vote 20 years before the current state pension was enacted, and no women affected by this pension change rule have been denied the right to vote. There is only ones women alive in the UK that could have been affected by the inability of women to vote - and she's 114.

    • @bonniestar4707
      @bonniestar4707 12 дней назад

      @@eljay5009 even so, women back then and today are pressured to have kids and are seen as lesser than if they do not, when men are called carefree bachelors for the same choice. And in some places in the world, abortion is criminalised or not allowed unless three doctors agree to it, what then? Women get paid less than men even today. And maybe when women asked for equality, they might have wanted men to retire earlier so they could spend their golden years together, not vice versa. My Granddad died before he could retire and my Grandma had to juggle helping him through his illness and working. But I guess you just want women to suffer and stay blind that the government wants the same thing, as well as wanting men to suffer too. And it stays that way until people shout about it, like with voting. 🙄

  • @jbizzle4922
    @jbizzle4922 2 месяца назад +9

    Yeah keep pushing for equality ladies. The stick is just as crappy at this end...

  • @kathyullah1619
    @kathyullah1619 2 месяца назад +3

    Pay there money

  • @rbir2653
    @rbir2653 2 месяца назад +11

    If i change my sex by self declaration can i get compensation too?

    • @melancholymonk7883
      @melancholymonk7883 2 месяца назад

      if they dont then claim under the equality act lol.
      I think id struggle as i identify as a cheese toastie ;P

  • @matthewmiles9626
    @matthewmiles9626 2 месяца назад

    How many men have died through having to work for an extra 5 years for decades. Where's their compensation.

  • @janwhite6038
    @janwhite6038 2 месяца назад +1

    Maybe Ipsos should poll 1950s women to assess their voting plans. Lab/Con alliance has let us down badly

  • @jaynhawk2724
    @jaynhawk2724 2 месяца назад +6

    I missed out on my pension being paid earlier by 10 days 😢

    • @mikeoglen6848
      @mikeoglen6848 2 месяца назад

      That's how it crumbles, cookie-wise...

    • @nickmiller76
      @nickmiller76 2 месяца назад +1

      There has to be a cut-off point somewhere FFS, Suck it up.

  • @ossianx8752
    @ossianx8752 2 месяца назад +5

    If a group of people live longer and costs the NHS more than a group of people who live shorter, cost the NHS less but pay in the same .... which group is really getting the raw deal ? 😇

  • @andykay3149
    @andykay3149 2 месяца назад +1

    What about us Men who for Years have had to work 5 years longer than Women. I think we're the Ones thats been hard done to. Heard a comment today from one of these Wasp Women saying she had to rely on her husbands wage. Talk about Equal rights. I think Women ought to stop cherry picking bits that suit them

  • @jenniferfloether5120
    @jenniferfloether5120 2 месяца назад +1

    An apology, certainly, but no compensation. There was adequate warning

    • @WillCamx
      @WillCamx 2 месяца назад +1

      Then why an apology? They don't deserve one.

  • @Dana-ml7sy
    @Dana-ml7sy 2 месяца назад +4

    £2,950 compensation is a joke! If that was for each year, fine but most women have lost 6 years & men have lost 1 year!

    • @martincarter5693
      @martincarter5693 2 месяца назад +2

      You want equality until it doesn’t suit you tough no compensation should be paid

    • @fuckthepolice71
      @fuckthepolice71 2 месяца назад

      You’re going to bankrupt the country because you got what you asked for

    • @michaelbuick6995
      @michaelbuick6995 2 месяца назад +1

      Men lost 1 because we started on minus 5.

  • @robertnorman7309
    @robertnorman7309 2 месяца назад

    WASPI - The true state pension inequality has been against men for 70 years. Women got their pension eralier and lived longer. That is true inequality. I hope govt holds firm on this. Its a shakedown.

  • @Billy_Bunter
    @Billy_Bunter 2 месяца назад +17

    Nothing about men who suffered the same.

    • @andreaconroy3623
      @andreaconroy3623 2 месяца назад +2

      I had to work an extra 6 years during which time I had late stage cancer too. Males of our generation grew up expecting to work until they were 65 before becoming pensionable like their Fathers. Females of our generation grew up with the expectation that they would be pensionable at 60 like their Mothers. It's not even so much about that - although it it - but that there was very little notice given - it was not communicated to us.

    • @silver4831
      @silver4831 2 месяца назад

      ​@andreaconroy3623 So stupid. Literally told it was going to change but chose to continue living in dream land.

  • @brianaustin8989
    @brianaustin8989 2 месяца назад

    As it was announced in 1995, that it would come into effect in 2010, there was 15 years grace which seems to have fallen on deaf ears, as they are claiming they were not told personally, of the proposed change.

  • @maggiedonaldson8432
    @maggiedonaldson8432 2 месяца назад +7

    Many women got as little as 3 years’ notice that their retirement date was going to be pushed back, with scarcely any time to plan. It was a commonplace for women of this generation not to pay full national insurance, having extended periods of time off to raise families, so many were already facing a much smaller state pension as a consequence. The issue isn’t really about equality and parity of retirement age with men, that point has been accepted a long time ago. It’s about woeful communication and inadequate notice, preventing pension pots being able to be topped up. There should have been a longer lead-in time - instead, the coalition government actually shortened it even more it in 2011. Keep fighting ladies (from a non-WASPI woman)

    • @Edi-r1888
      @Edi-r1888 2 месяца назад +3

      How do you work out that some had less than 3 years notice, the law changed in 1995 and wasn’t introduced until 2010 that’s a minimum of 15 years notice.

    • @silver4831
      @silver4831 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Edi-r1888Not enough for these women apparently.

  • @qed456
    @qed456 2 месяца назад +1

    It seems like another woke bonkers initiative is formed every 13 minutes

  • @garrybrough1881
    @garrybrough1881 2 месяца назад +6

    wait, wasn't it women who wanted to be equil? you women are responsible, you brought the action against the goverment now you don't like it you expect compensation?

  • @hilarymiseroy
    @hilarymiseroy 2 месяца назад

    The problem seems to be at its most acute between those who retired at 60 who worked mainly in the public sector and some large private companies and the changing state pension age. What I can't understand is why they say they were not aware of this. Their employers certainly were. Over the last 20 years I'm aware of many large companies who when employees reached their original end of contract date of 60 started offering rolling 12 month contracts to address this very issue.

  • @robertnewton6454
    @robertnewton6454 2 месяца назад

    It really would help if people took the time to read the phso
    Report
    Paragraphs 169 to 172
    Summarise the findings
    This is an issue of dwp maladministration in relation to a failure of notification of change
    It is not an issue of govt policy
    Decision to equalise state pension attainment age
    Summary issue paragraph 173
    States that a further phso investigation will take place into the consequences of dwp
    Maladministration

  • @Manc-fh5we
    @Manc-fh5we 2 месяца назад

    What about all the men that were discriminated against for years by being made to work 5 years longer?

  • @Ravenuk
    @Ravenuk 2 месяца назад

    Ah yes they want equality except when it comes to things like this

  • @mikeoglen6848
    @mikeoglen6848 2 месяца назад +27

    Sorry if this offends any women: But what about all the Millions of Men who paid in and didn't even reach 65?

    • @stequality
      @stequality 2 месяца назад +11

      They don't care about that unfortunately

    • @WillCamx
      @WillCamx 2 месяца назад +1

      So what if it offends them. They just want money for nothing

    • @kidzngrandkidz840
      @kidzngrandkidz840 2 месяца назад

      @@stequality My Aunt lost her husband when he was 58 and I can assure you she and many other women do care, the only people who don’t care are the parasites running this s*** show.

    • @janwhite6038
      @janwhite6038 2 месяца назад +4

      The deal was women paid their National insurance and retired at 60

    • @WillCamx
      @WillCamx 2 месяца назад +3

      @@janwhite6038 My deal was I paid my NI and retired at 65 but that's been increased to 67. Should I get compensation?

  • @bluenose-xn5ls
    @bluenose-xn5ls 2 месяца назад +38

    load of rubbish want money for not working

  • @stephenridley1153
    @stephenridley1153 2 месяца назад

    But with a life expectancy years longer than men who have had to work 5 years longer

  • @coaty79
    @coaty79 2 месяца назад +3

    How about if theres no difference between the 2 sexs in law terms and we are to be treated equally why the hell in this day and age are men still expected to work an extra 5 years ?

  • @WillCamx
    @WillCamx 2 месяца назад

    They want equality but only when it benefits them. Why the hell should they get compensation?

  • @sitrepSNAFU
    @sitrepSNAFU 2 месяца назад +14

    Nearly 4 years after the men. Did you want equality? Or just when it suits you? We have also been working more years than women since pensions were introduced. There's more of a case for men getting tax payers money.

    • @SuperRobertballard
      @SuperRobertballard 2 месяца назад +1

      Educate yourself.

    • @michaelcoomes7670
      @michaelcoomes7670 2 месяца назад

      Get a life you idiot.

    • @sitrepSNAFU
      @sitrepSNAFU 2 месяца назад +7

      @@SuperRobertballard no need, I work in pensions. (Insert really smug face)

    • @AyyyVik
      @AyyyVik 2 месяца назад

      lmao, what made you believe femoids ever wanted equality? it has always been about privilege, and now this feminism cancer is slowly killing all of europe, as well as the states and Canada.

    • @andreaconroy3623
      @andreaconroy3623 2 месяца назад

      It's not the fact that the pension age changed. It's the fact that they were not informed (except for a notice in the Times!!) until it was too late to make alternative arrangements. That is what the compensation is for and not for the tens of thousands of pounds pension they would have been paid otherwise.

  • @chrisf1600
    @chrisf1600 2 месяца назад

    Every 13 minutes ! Absolute hysterical drivel.

  • @geraldineskinner5941
    @geraldineskinner5941 2 месяца назад

    You should see the pension payouts to the bbc and nhs staff. That’s all nhs staff I believe. They have huge government pensions. Massive. Yes I missed out too. I’m 65 and still working after 47 years. Don’t mind but the pension coming at 66 years old is rubbish really.

  • @zsht
    @zsht 2 месяца назад +4

    Our pension age will be mid-70s, and we're gonna die without owning a house.
    Sorry if IDGAF about these WASPI women.

    • @WillCamx
      @WillCamx 2 месяца назад +1

      Pack of whingers. My pension age has been increased but I just have to live with it.

  • @silver4831
    @silver4831 2 месяца назад

    Yeah I'm probably not even going to make it to 60. What's the point.

  • @raskinman
    @raskinman 2 месяца назад

    How about the Millions of WW2 men that died getting a posthumous compensation

  • @Andrew-tx9jy
    @Andrew-tx9jy 2 месяца назад

    It was common knowledge to everyone, their solicitors are telling them to say they didn't know as it's the only argument they have and a very weak one too.

  • @jeancurr5807
    @jeancurr5807 2 месяца назад

    who wil inform these women and how will they find the people and will I be told or do we have to apply for it.?

    • @nickmiller76
      @nickmiller76 2 месяца назад

      FFS you lot really want spoon-feeding don't you,

  • @lotlot
    @lotlot 2 месяца назад

    No one should rely on the state to exist!!
    People should plan as best they can for old age. To suggest we are ‘owed’ money is ridiculous. Obviously it’s irritating that we have all made contributions that go to benefit claimants and migrants instead, but our retirement and old age is our own responsibility, not the tax payers.

  • @angrybrit129
    @angrybrit129 2 месяца назад +3

    And most of the men who worked longer paid more died without seeing a pension

    • @andreaconroy3623
      @andreaconroy3623 2 месяца назад +1

      It's not the fact that the pension age changed. It's the fact that they were not informed (except for a notice in the Times!!) until it was too late to make alternative arrangements. That is what the compensation is for and not for the tens of thousands of pounds pension they would have been paid otherwise.

    • @silver4831
      @silver4831 2 месяца назад

      ​@andreaconroy3623 They where all told, they just acted like fools and stuck there head in the sand.

  • @Allthewaydown89
    @Allthewaydown89 2 месяца назад

    Hopefully the government octuple checks every single detail before they pay

  • @aleccap5946
    @aleccap5946 2 месяца назад

    So women want to be paid the same as men but don't want to work as long ? I paid in 50 years 2 months for a pissy £215 a week and still pay tax as this is an income not retirement ?

  • @stellaburgoyne9473
    @stellaburgoyne9473 2 месяца назад

    Not sure what this compensation is all about? I’m 71 and born in 52 so yes I have a pension but mine is the old amount! Women born from 1953 will get a much higher rate! Still working !!! So not sure what’s really going on!

  • @paulmac8450
    @paulmac8450 2 месяца назад +10

    If I identify as a woman can I have the cash please?

    • @kayakpaddler3888
      @kayakpaddler3888 2 месяца назад

      Me too !

    • @stellaburgoyne9473
      @stellaburgoyne9473 2 месяца назад

      You do realise if you identify as a woman you too will have to join long queues for female toilets in public places😂😂😂😂 while men just walk past you as they so rarely ever have to queue. Are you ready for that 👍🤣🤣🤣

  • @markfox1545
    @markfox1545 2 месяца назад +1

    Does she? I bet she's tired of it.😊

  • @farmerned6
    @farmerned6 2 месяца назад +1

    EQUALITY

  • @leebennett1821
    @leebennett1821 2 месяца назад

    Women live longer and men work harder than women retirement age for men and women should be the same

  • @stevenb7964
    @stevenb7964 2 месяца назад

    Give them 10k each, you know what women are like with money, will be spent in a week giving a good boost to the economy

  • @rjw4762
    @rjw4762 2 месяца назад +11

    ANd Men die of overwork every 4 minutes probably.

  • @isildursbane2758
    @isildursbane2758 2 месяца назад

    Women wanted equal rights but not when they are equalised down towards men

  • @joprocter4573
    @joprocter4573 2 месяца назад +1

    Just as dwp and government want

  • @armosamarosso
    @armosamarosso 2 месяца назад

    She looks like she has a nice house. I wonder how much her mortgage was....

  • @MrDominicg90
    @MrDominicg90 2 месяца назад

    To say that one of them died every 13 minutes, what did they die of? Was it old age and the are retirement age? Did they kill them selves because they couldn’t work? What is the formula based on?

  • @user-gp1bm8sf9m
    @user-gp1bm8sf9m 2 месяца назад

    3000 p0unds is disgusting

  • @robertnorman7309
    @robertnorman7309 2 месяца назад

    Women live longer than men on average but pension companies cannot take that into account so men now (always) have to subsidise womens annuities. They woment are incorrigible.

  • @Andrew-tx9jy
    @Andrew-tx9jy 25 дней назад

    Most men have the vast majority of jobs that require 'hard work' but they have always been made to retire at 67 so I really don't have any sympathy for these women. In fact they still get a better deal than men because they live for a few years longer on average and so are still taking the state pension longer. I think it is disgusting, hypocritical and immoral that they should be whinging that they want hand outs. Pure greed and selfishness.

    • @eljay5009
      @eljay5009 13 дней назад

      Yep - women contribute least (in financial terms) yet benefit most......and still they complain.

  • @michaelbuick6995
    @michaelbuick6995 2 месяца назад +5

    I've got a better idea: scrap the state pension entirely. Save up your own pension and then you can decide when you retire. You know you'll be old one day, plan accordingly.

  • @7th.trumpet
    @7th.trumpet 2 месяца назад +3

    Women live longer, but can retire earlier ?? 100% sexist and zero equality. But it's all about "me me me" ! I wouldn't give them a penny piece !

  • @sausagesoda4090
    @sausagesoda4090 2 месяца назад

    Another pay gap saga

  • @vespadavidson2315
    @vespadavidson2315 2 месяца назад

    My father lived to be sixty five and ten days. He had just received his first pension payment, before he was buried the Gov had asked for the excess payment back. Women are equal...No.? So... extrapolate....

  • @johnstephenson4711
    @johnstephenson4711 Месяц назад

    So no men die before reaching pension age then? Just women! What utter nonsense. All they are being asked to do is get their pension at the same time as a man. What's unfair or unjust about that? They aren't entitled to any compensation. The change was notified in 1995. It was not fully implemented until 2018. 23 years not enough notice? Give me a break!

    • @eljay5009
      @eljay5009 13 дней назад

      Women still have a longer life expectancy on average - so the average woman will likely draw their state pension for much longer than the average man.

  • @sjwslayer844
    @sjwslayer844 2 месяца назад +2

    They wanted equal rights....they got equal rights....and they're still whining 😂

  • @Paul-tp9vf
    @Paul-tp9vf 2 месяца назад

    The only people I feel less sympathy for than the waspi women are the Gazans.

  • @cyndy2484
    @cyndy2484 2 месяца назад +2

    They will wait till everone is dead before they pay. Men always knew they would have to work to 65 women didnt and then it jumpes to 66 all in one go

  • @damon1957ful
    @damon1957ful 2 месяца назад +1

    Now pension all men for 60 yr old they want equal rights

  • @maximusmeridius1240
    @maximusmeridius1240 2 месяца назад

    Whats a wapsi woman ????

  • @leswall3061
    @leswall3061 2 месяца назад

    Many a man has died before getting to pension age, so get over yourselves

  • @manwithcorsae7738
    @manwithcorsae7738 2 месяца назад +7

    I noticed several comments below about women wanting more for less. It's not the fact that the pension age changed. It's the fact that they were not informed (except for a notice in the Times!!) until it was too late to make alternative arrangements. That is what the compensation is for and not for the tens of thousands of pounds pension they would have been paid otherwise. As I said below, my wife lost, was not paid, what she would have received if the change had not been made over the 6 years she had to wait.

    • @anngray4728
      @anngray4728 2 месяца назад +2

      I left my job to look after my mother for 5 yrs. The thing that kept me going was looking forward to my pension at 60. I never received any letter to say it was being changed to 66. People on here are making out that we are looking to be payed for yrs not working. What about the years we had to have children. I worked before having a family. Had my family and worked after each pregnancy. Don’t think it’s too much to ask to be compensated for their failure in not informing us about it. I lost out on about 43thousand . It’s the underhand way they did it.

    • @kenjukes2845
      @kenjukes2845 2 месяца назад +4

      @@anngray4728Did you not read any newspapers or watch any television during this time? Everyone knew!!

    • @anngray4728
      @anngray4728 2 месяца назад +1

      @@kenjukes2845 I live in Northern Ireland and I can tell you now it wasn’t in either.

    • @OwenMc1992
      @OwenMc1992 2 месяца назад +1

      Just everyone else knew in the country apart from the sad little "WASPI" women. Your wife didn't seem too intelligent. Did she forget to breathe?

  • @Evertonfan1995-le9tr
    @Evertonfan1995-le9tr 2 месяца назад

    Wtf is a waspi woman ???

    • @nickmiller76
      @nickmiller76 2 месяца назад

      An elderly middle-class indignant female who feels you owe them some free money.

    • @silver4831
      @silver4831 2 месяца назад

      The entitled types who expect people to do everything for them.

  • @mikeman584
    @mikeman584 2 месяца назад

    Give them a couple of grand each if it will shut them up but to be honest women have whined on about equality for time memorial and when they get it they want to cherry pick the good out and leave the rest. There is plenty of work out there to cover those few years. Cry and you win.

  • @bonniestar4707
    @bonniestar4707 2 месяца назад

    People in the comments keep saying that "women wanted equality" and "this is what we asked for", ignoring the fact that the government is likely to be raising the pension age so people will work until they drop. No one asked for that.

    • @Andrew-tx9jy
      @Andrew-tx9jy 25 дней назад

      At least then they won't be doing it to just one particular section of society in the discriminatory way they have for years.

    • @bonniestar4707
      @bonniestar4707 25 дней назад

      @@Andrew-tx9jy well women have lost portions of their career to caring for children before they reach school age and that still happens now because of childcare being unaffordable for many. But apparently it is better if everyone suffers in the name of equality 🙄

    • @Andrew-tx9jy
      @Andrew-tx9jy 24 дня назад

      @@bonniestar4707 Having children was THEIR choice, it has not been forced on them. The only ones who have 'suffered' in this are the men who had to work 5 years longer than their female counterparts and die years earlier thus have far less money from the pension pot than women. THEY are the ones who have a justifiable case that needs addressing but as usual the squeaky wheel looks like it might get the oil, God forbid.

    • @eljay5009
      @eljay5009 13 дней назад

      What is the answer to rising life expectancy though. Since 1970, average life expectancy for a man has increased by 10 years.....the state pension age over that same time period has only increased by 2 years.
      How are all these extra state pension payments to be paid for - considering the double whammy that it's also the boomer generation that is now retiring. You have many more people retiring - and they are living much longer and this drawing state pension for longer. Is it fair to burden future generations of tax payer with that cost?

    • @bonniestar4707
      @bonniestar4707 13 дней назад

      @@eljay5009 No, it isn't.Maybe the answer is for people to have less kids and adopt instead or stay CF, so that less people are born into suffering

  • @jeanettealexander2919
    @jeanettealexander2919 2 месяца назад +2

    I Have to say for me I had to do an extra two years which for ME was a Life sentence ,as I was ready to Retire as I had worked since I was Just 15

  • @MC-rw3lc
    @MC-rw3lc 2 месяца назад +3

    A lot of angry male voices in these comments, which i find a bit sad.

    • @eljay5009
      @eljay5009 13 дней назад

      You mean men who have a lower life expectancy, worked much harder and more physically demanding jobs and paid far more tax into the system - yet had to wait 5 years longer than women to claim their pension.
      That's where the real injustice lies in all of this. Women demanded equality........as the saying goes "be careful what you ask for......you might get it"

  • @seanbyrne8767
    @seanbyrne8767 2 месяца назад +4

    This is fucking ridiculous

  • @alexhudson3574
    @alexhudson3574 2 месяца назад +7

    this is nonsense they do not deserve any compensation whatsoever

    • @andreaconroy3623
      @andreaconroy3623 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes they do. It's not the fact that the pension age changed. It's the fact that they were not informed (except for a notice in the Times!!) until it was too late to make alternative arrangements. That is what the compensation is for and not for the tens of thousands of pounds pension they would have been paid

    • @alexhudson3574
      @alexhudson3574 2 месяца назад +1

      @@andreaconroy3623 well if they had a job they could have carried on working , or found a job , also i remember when the government announced this ,this didnt happen overnight !

    • @lorna5193
      @lorna5193 2 месяца назад

      Spoken like a man - pathetic.