mike almost always on the right side like the lebrin shot was 100% the right side. for the gobert argument, all he had to say was this ain’t a top 10 defenders list it’s top 10 in general lmao
yeah. What do we call guys who are specialists in one thing but arent neccesarily great at others? role players, guys who play a role, and even this podcast gave that definition, so acting like Gobert should be up there with Embiid, Jokic, etc but he only gets paid to protect the rim...idk bout that one
24:19 Mike actually had a good point here, he had trouble communicating it but basically if youre going to list the best players by position, the top ones are usually guys who can step out of their "comfort" zone (to put it one way) and do more stuff to help your team and not get played out cause youre one dimensional. What do we call guys who are specialists in one thing but arent neccesarily great at others? role players, guys who play a role, and even this podcast gave that definition, so acting like Gobert should be up there with Embiid, Jokic, etc but he only gets paid to protect the rim...idk bout that one
They were shitting on Mike for saying Giannis should just go to the rim anyway when Toronto were packing the paint and then the very next clip Pierre is talking about how LeBron should take a contested shot at the rim instead of passing to a wide open shooter 🤣I wish Mike and D Mills were more confident to defend their points.
On god, if he woulda just said “do u want the best defending big that cant score or one thats top 15 or top 10 in both?” During the Gobert debate itd b wraps
“Why you talking about his offense?” Kenny bro, offense is a part of basketball. Its gonna really hard for someone to be better than people when they’re not as good offensively and their defense is just blocking and contesting shots. Literally nothing else defensively. Cant properly close out, cant move his feet, cant get in stance and guard someone, and no strength whatsoever. Gets backed down so easily its embarrassing
Ngl I think I'd side with mike on the Le3v1 debate, kicking it out to a wide open shooter is the play. Obviously you wish Danny Green wasn't said shooter, but I think it's the right play anyways, and they could've moved the ball more before taking the shot, but that kick out had the heat's defense on skates.
Their argument was that at the time he wasnt one of if not the best player and couldnt force his way to score. Giannis was a kid and his role was to get to the basket to score. Giannis just got so incredibly strong and agile that he’s now able to force himself a bucket even while going against a wall. If the same thing happened right now as giannis is at his peak, I would think that P and Kenny would be agreeing
What no it didn’t lmao he said he could never be the best in the world it’s the opposite Kenny and P were right he just needs shooters around him and he’s the best
Mike Gobert take aged really well. Say your points with ur chest Mike… you got strong points to the takes but just not confident enough. And the Giannis takes aged so horribly lmao
"Why are you talking about his offense" a nigga that can only play one side of the ball can't be top 5 tf he talking about 😂 like mike said he passes out the post with 6'4" dudes on him. His holes offensively outweigh his defensive contributions too much for him to be a top 5 center. Kenny too damn biased for that conversation
They was tweaking on that Danny Green part. No matter what his percentage is in a short stretch of games, he’s still respected as a shooter and a PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL PLAYER WIDE OPEN. I dont care who you are, if you are swarmed you better pass to the wide open guy.
Right they act like he was shooting terrible the whole playoffs, and yes he was struggling but he is a shooter. Lebron throws out a pass from a quadruple team. Like KB said go rewatch the play. It’s 4 niggas standing around lebron. Also Danny fumbled the pass so he didn’t get as wide of a look as he would’ve gotten if he caught it. But they definitely tweaking saying lebron has to take that shot. Idc what you say a shot over 4 people is always a bad shot, he made the right play and his shooter missed
I agree with both they points , yes it’s the right play , but since you’re LeBron James , taking that lay to the rack with the potential to draw in a foul is also the right play . I’m with Mike on this one , but if I was in LeBron’s shoes , I’m trusting myself with that last shot
@@JaquavionGigglesworth ok but if you watch the play it’s 4 Miami players, I’m sorry but no ref is giving you that call driving into 4 people or at least they shouldn’t unless it’s egregious. Plus where he picks the ball up from he’d be doing more of a floater than layup
Bro all Mike had to say especially when Jokic and all other players were being mentioned was the value they bring on the offensive has way more value and ceiling in terms of team competitiveness than gobert does😭 He had so many valid points in the vid but can’t articulate it at all 😭😭😭
they acting like him playing like a role player means he was garbage, mike just sayin that he didn't play like an mvp on a contending team. 21 points and 12 rebounds can most definitely be role player numbers. mike def had a valid point but p and kenny acted like mike sum outrageous shit.
Nah Dmills and Mike Won the first argument because it’s Giannis fault they are packing the paint 💀 he should be able to shoot mid ranges at 7 ft 💀 He’s just a better ben Simmons at that point
Mike the king of being on the right side of the debate but arguing his point TERRIBLY
He should have cooked KB in the Rudy Gobert debate but he couldn't articulate himself at all 🤣🤣
“i’m breakin down”
LMFAOOO this is facts 😂😂 I be agreeing with him but then be like “nah you lost me”
😂I swear, it gets me so frustrated
He got flamed for saying Kuzma is better than Nemanja Bjelica lmao
“Random Ben Simmons talk for a minute” is hilarious😭😭😭
how lol
P sure do like his lightskins
HE WAS HUUUUURTT, HE WAS FRIGGIN HUUURT
The AD saga 😂
man was bouta cry
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 yo this shii rent free
Mike has the funniest voice icl 😂😂
This shit was a classic 😭😭
Need a “Pierre leaving his chair/antics” compilation 😭
Would be one of the funniest videos on the platform ☠️
Mike actually having some valid points but always fumble his arguments lol, especially the gobert debate
“A shot at the rim has never been a bad shot for LeBron James” my brother in Christ he was Quadruple teamed 💀
Facts, there was literally a wall in the paint 😭
This is a trip down memory lane back when D Mills would answer based on what he thought P would agree with lol
Your editing has gotten so good
mike almost always on the right side like the lebrin shot was 100% the right side. for the gobert argument, all he had to say was this ain’t a top 10 defenders list it’s top 10 in general lmao
TTWClips always comes in clutch for my lunchbreak
Mike stay spittin but just cuz he don’t always say it with his chest the other dudes think it’s cap
Mikes Gobert take aging real nice. Rare Mike W
yeah. What do we call guys who are specialists in one thing but arent neccesarily great at others? role players, guys who play a role, and even this podcast gave that definition, so acting like Gobert should be up there with Embiid, Jokic, etc but he only gets paid to protect the rim...idk bout that one
24:19 Mike actually had a good point here, he had trouble communicating it but basically if youre going to list the best players by position, the top ones are usually guys who can step out of their "comfort" zone (to put it one way) and do more stuff to help your team and not get played out cause youre one dimensional.
What do we call guys who are specialists in one thing but arent neccesarily great at others? role players, guys who play a role, and even this podcast gave that definition, so acting like Gobert should be up there with Embiid, Jokic, etc but he only gets paid to protect the rim...idk bout that one
That said there still was not 6 centers you'd take over him in summer 2022
They tellin Bron to take the shot, but if he shot on 3 people they would be saying “Its somebody open, why shoot on 3 players” 😭😭🤦🏾♂️
They were shitting on Mike for saying Giannis should just go to the rim anyway when Toronto were packing the paint and then the very next clip Pierre is talking about how LeBron should take a contested shot at the rim instead of passing to a wide open shooter 🤣I wish Mike and D Mills were more confident to defend their points.
Mike beat KB in that Gobert argument.
Yeah I think KB is more of a convincing speaker because his arguments are more direct, but Mike was correct, and time has proved him so
@@legendarymajinnhow was Mike correct. KB was actually showing how the perimeter D was the problem and Gobert was keeping them in series
Sometimes Mike be saying a whole lot of nothing 😂😂
On god, if he woulda just said “do u want the best defending big that cant score or one thats top 15 or top 10 in both?” During the Gobert debate itd b wraps
On some essay shit
Watchin d mills during the gobert debate has me dead
best channel on yt rn
Better than actual TTW 😂
@@cutc2k764 Ok , now we reaching
@@JaquavionGigglesworth it’s a joke
Nothing I love more than watching people argue on a podcast😂
Keep these coming gang they funny asf
“Why you talking about his offense?” Kenny bro, offense is a part of basketball. Its gonna really hard for someone to be better than people when they’re not as good offensively and their defense is just blocking and contesting shots. Literally nothing else defensively. Cant properly close out, cant move his feet, cant get in stance and guard someone, and no strength whatsoever. Gets backed down so easily its embarrassing
thank u, mike won that argument so easily😂
revisionist history.
@@NATUR3F33LS it’s really not. and this was less than one season ago. not exactly history.
22:27 p dancing killed me🤣🤣
We go from P saying its not a bad shot for bron because its bron and then him saying the dames shot is a bad shot objectively
The PG bias 😭😭
@@somebodyimportant3490 fax 💀
You never miss
Ttw clips always comes through clutch unlike Danny green
Mike be in all these debates, makes sense why he said "I'm breaking down". He had enough 😂😂😂
Ngl I think I'd side with mike on the Le3v1 debate, kicking it out to a wide open shooter is the play. Obviously you wish Danny Green wasn't said shooter, but I think it's the right play anyways, and they could've moved the ball more before taking the shot, but that kick out had the heat's defense on skates.
i like how randomly dmills says "kevin durant" shit got me weak as hell
P talking about Danny Green was actually insane. Like what is he talking about.
They were acting like Bron was wide for a layup and not quadruple teamed
danny green couldnt hit a shot…
@@christiangehl2975 doesn't matter even a little bit. 3 point shooter wide for a 3 and you have multiple players on you, you kick to him
It really doesn’t matter at this point lmao
@@somebodyimportant3490 you can say this for any talk about past basketball.
consistent ttw clips content🙏🙏
Yo Clips you should do a video on their 1st time all-star predictions pod if you haven’t already
These Giannis takes make me laugh. I know I was saying the same shit and we all wrong now 😂
Mike's take on giannis aged really well. I'm really surprised by Kenny and p's take on giannis back then. I hope they react to this on the pod
Their argument was that at the time he wasnt one of if not the best player and couldnt force his way to score. Giannis was a kid and his role was to get to the basket to score. Giannis just got so incredibly strong and agile that he’s now able to force himself a bucket even while going against a wall. If the same thing happened right now as giannis is at his peak, I would think that P and Kenny would be agreeing
What no it didn’t lmao he said he could never be the best in the world it’s the opposite Kenny and P were right he just needs shooters around him and he’s the best
Mike sounded like a casual
Aged well in what way? Giannis in 21 and 22 was clearly the best in the world and all of them consider him top 2 rn
No it hasn’t dummy
That first argument shows how low Mike and D Mills knowledge has come so far
3:25 “A role player can play that defense” DPOY type defense 😂😂 mike funny as hell
Mikal Bridges was a role player for the Suns when he was playing DPOY-level defense
Marcus Smart, Mikal Bridges, OG, Anunoby, there’s guys who play DPOY level defense and are role players lol. Hell Brook Lopez, Gianni’s’ teammate
Mike Gobert take aged really well. Say your points with ur chest Mike… you got strong points to the takes but just not confident enough. And the Giannis takes aged so horribly lmao
Haven’t watched it yet but already had to comment can’t wait to watch this
The title should be “Mike Getting Smoked For 29:21”.
"Why are you talking about his offense" a nigga that can only play one side of the ball can't be top 5 tf he talking about 😂 like mike said he passes out the post with 6'4" dudes on him. His holes offensively outweigh his defensive contributions too much for him to be a top 5 center. Kenny too damn biased for that conversation
"Michael" 😭😭😭😭
First convo - the raptors built that giannis wall dmills got told about
They was tweaking on that Danny Green part. No matter what his percentage is in a short stretch of games, he’s still respected as a shooter and a PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL PLAYER WIDE OPEN. I dont care who you are, if you are swarmed you better pass to the wide open guy.
That respect def splashed that 3 too
Right they act like he was shooting terrible the whole playoffs, and yes he was struggling but he is a shooter. Lebron throws out a pass from a quadruple team. Like KB said go rewatch the play. It’s 4 niggas standing around lebron. Also Danny fumbled the pass so he didn’t get as wide of a look as he would’ve gotten if he caught it. But they definitely tweaking saying lebron has to take that shot. Idc what you say a shot over 4 people is always a bad shot, he made the right play and his shooter missed
I agree with both they points , yes it’s the right play , but since you’re LeBron James , taking that lay to the rack with the potential to draw in a foul is also the right play . I’m with Mike on this one , but if I was in LeBron’s shoes , I’m trusting myself with that last shot
@@JaquavionGigglesworth ok but if you watch the play it’s 4 Miami players, I’m sorry but no ref is giving you that call driving into 4 people or at least they shouldn’t unless it’s egregious. Plus where he picks the ball up from he’d be doing more of a floater than layup
@@TdwBsuCard24 they just said they'd feel more confident lebron taking it, not that he had to
22:27 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bro all Mike had to say especially when Jokic and all other players were being mentioned was the value they bring on the offensive has way more value and ceiling in terms of team competitiveness than gobert does😭 He had so many valid points in the vid but can’t articulate it at all 😭😭😭
W channel
Kenny’s Gobert love is getting weird
they was so wrong on the Bron shot in the bubble 😂 Mike just scared of P lol jkjk
Breakfast sorted
School tomorrow ✅
rudy defense doesnt outweigh all his other shortcomings mike was right
Me growing up is realizing Mike was right in that first debate. And the second.
They be trying to gaslight Mike lol he be right a lot of the times
don't let mike cook
KB a cornball in the gobert argument. Cool he’s the best “defensive hub” but who cares if he can’t do anything else besides rim protection
This is just “Mike Being The Greatest Debater Ever Pt2”.
Mike Giannis take after the 2019 playoffs so bad 😂 raps built a wall and none of Giannis shooters could hit shots
If Mike talked more he would be saying more wild shit then D mills. Bro saying a whole bunch of nothing lol
they acting like him playing like a role player means he was garbage, mike just sayin that he didn't play like an mvp on a contending team. 21 points and 12 rebounds can most definitely be role player numbers.
mike def had a valid point but p and kenny acted like mike sum outrageous shit.
21 pts 12 rebounds and elite defense is not a role player lmao
What role players you know rn averaging 21 12 with elite defense.
Mike is right way to often to be losing all these arguments
Im breakin down
P always loud and wrong smh
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Nah Dmills and Mike Won the first argument because it’s Giannis fault they are packing the paint 💀 he should be able to shoot mid ranges at 7 ft 💀 He’s just a better ben Simmons at that point
P annoying af
ironic that P wants lebron to take a tough shot yet calls dames shot a bad shot please pick a side