She’s not like before. She’s not afraid of him now. She wants to focus on the divided Todoroki family that her husband left. Starting with their son Toya.
Can’t get how everyone hates on endeavor, but at the same time cheers for Rei. She did also a lot of things wrong, like the fuck burning her son. But y’all forgive her like nothing, meanwhile can’t feel bad for Endeavor cries over Toya. I love Shoto and I knew that he doesn’t really know Toya, but I mean we can see in the fight that Endeavor is the one and only who truly struggle with fighting Toya. He has a heart and he loves his family. He made mistakes, but so they all did.
@@emmi3058 The whole family was messed up because of what Enji did. He wanted a child to carry on his legacy and that child can surpass All might. But it went wrong. Way horribly wrong.
It's just like I read on the official MHA/BOKU NO HERO Wikia page. Despite all the rage she has towards her estranged husband for what he put her and their children through, Rei Todoroki is determined to put an end to her family's dark legacy in Dabi once and for all.
She was institutionalized because of the loss of Her son+Endeavors abuse, she simply couldn’t handle the loss of one of her children. Once she learned that Toya was alive, it gave her hope and lifted her from her depression.
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Because he changed ? Or do you want him to continue doing that and be a bad father til the very end of the series ? Yeah, he done it before, and that's exactly why he doesn't want to do it again
@@bgos4727 for one of them, it's not yet for the rest of the family and he proved it by helping them return together, even at his own expense. If everyone think like you lot then the death penalty should be the only penalty
I don’t know how the anime goes but in the manga she tells Enji to suck it up and go out to fight their son. Notably she also calls him Dabi instead of Toya. She also then puts the responsibility of dealing with Toya on Shoto
Endeavor himself knows about the damage he has done. Thanks to the abuse, he did to his family born from his insecurity over surpassing All Might, it made his firstborn son Touya hate him and believe he and other heroes before and after him were a corrupt people thanks to the ideology inspired by Stain. Thus Touya craved only revenge and began on a path of vengeance as the League of Villains’ Dabi, killing many lives and becoming the most dangerous villain ever known in the world of My Hero Academia. And this is a moment I will always take seriously. Because it is one of those moments in anime and manga where an abusive parent knows that his or her actions have created irreparable damage. Along with extreme consequences to the point of where the damage is done. Endeavour realises he has created the most dangerous supervillain of all time. And compared to the abusive training he gave Shoto and the treatment he had towards Rei, I always feel like how he not cared about Touya was the more serious and dire moment of his abuse, because that very abuse and neglect turned him into the villain he is today. And there is no one he could blame but himself; he is the sole cause of all of this.
There are also several layers to this as it is true what deku had said it's dabis quirk and he is hypocritical for trying to point out endeavours flaws when he is commiting atrocities such as murder, endeavour did some awful things truely and you are right he knows that, but this show is proving that he isn't that same man anymore he himself wants to attone and to improve, it takes alot of guys for there family to make the steps to support him especially being the victims but they made the absolute best steps to actually improving there lives by working through this mental block and honestly endeavour outside of who he was this side seems remorseful sentimental even an being like that myself i couldn't imagine seeing everything i had done and my family who I had deeply hurt so yeah I can't hate endeavour only hate the things he has done in the past as a different kind of man ahdgzh
Im so proud of this family, rei showed up to help even when endeavour has been part of her trauma she continues to face him for the sake of the family, and endeavour has changed so much, think of what he was like then and now, he has such great character development hes changed as a father and a person. I dont even have to mention shoto, the fact that he still tolerates endeavour and his mom is the sign of a pure kind hearted hero. Fuyumi has always tried to keep the family sane, after her mom went to the hospital, i feel like she realised what toya had been going through, it was just too late to help, natsuo has also come akong way, and im proud of touya for surviving all that honestly.
Let's compare: In Kung Fu Panda, master Sifu only realizes how badly he screwed up raising Tau Lung after the latter beat him to a bloody pulp, all the while pointing out his numerous failures as a father. In Tai Lung's own words, Sifu filled his head with dreams, drove him to train until his bones cracked and denied him his destiny when he chose not to speak up for him when his master refused. He never even once visited him in 20 years of being imprisoned, only owning up to his mistakes well past the point where his son could be reasoned with anymore. Meanwhile, Endeavor only realizes how royally he screwed up after his allegedly dead son comes back as a psychotic serial killer who has to flat-out spell out to him that he put his entire family through hell for nothing and that he only snapped after seeing his father not having learned a thing even after what his abuse and neglect did to him. Just 2 deadbeat fathers having their hellspawn sons repay them for the literal hell they were put through.
But sifu saved Tai lung when he was a baby and had to abandon him once he saw the malice inside him (malice that was a result of sifu spoiling him and giving him special treatment) but nonetheless at its core sifu's intentions were good whereas endeavor was selfish and used his influence to force a marriage and get a child with power that could rival all might and he forced 6yo Toya to deal with the same frustration that corrupted endeavor. And when it was revealed that Toya couldn't achieve endeavor's goal, he abandoned him like the rest of the siblings and switched to shoto instead of confronting his feelings. Sifu and endeavor might be similar but endeavor is by far worse that sifu. He is a character that is hard to resonate with and still at the end, even after his past you can't help but root for the guy. Endeavor is by far the best written character in the show along with bakugou, stain and twice.
It’s been a while since I’ve watched Kung Fu panda, so I can’t really comment there, although I can definitely say that Enji definitely deserves this. Tbh, I think Enji got off way to easy in retrospect, but I guess I’ll have to wait and see how his arc ends. I don’t really know if Enji’s can be salvaged though so I won’t hold my breath.
@@amuroray9115 no in the later films its shown that when someone is skadooshed they are sent to the spirit realm meaning they are dead physically but spiritually they arent. mind you if they are mortal's.
Basically, he never fought any of his child. In the past, it was a one-sided abuse, not a fight. When he fought Dabi, he didn't know it was Toya all along
Honestly, I can’t say I feel bad for him. Endeavor’s mistreatment and abuse has all lead him to this point. He really did have it coming. And I don’t think any empty promises of “atonement” are gonna change my mind now at this point.
And he chose to not let it break him. This man knows he's got an entire lifetime's worth of atonement to do for his family and he's trying his best, and I can't help but respect him for that.
I think hes asking himself that very question right now. Looking down at that crowd of people that either hate him, like him, or respect him seeing that this is exactly what he wanted but looking at his family he is thinking "at what cost?
It's like Kratos after committing a genocide, slaughtering the entire Greek pantheon. Then Kratos decided to change, start a new life in Midgard and become a better person. But the past still haunts him
The problem is, Endeavor stopped caring for Toya as soon as he realized he can't make a picture-perfect hero out of him -- to the point where he won't hear him out and won't stop his abuse of Shoto even after Toya's supposed demise. Yes, Endeavor isn't responsible for the things Dabi did, but he is responsible for Toya becoming Dabi.
Yes and no. While yes, I agree that the unecessary neglect that Toya recieved, was just wrong and unforgivable...on both parent's sides (Like, from what we saw, he literally only had Natsu), but to say that Endeavor and Endeavor alone is the reason for Toya turning into Dabi is just plain wrong. The boy was always a little off. Not only that, he could've turned out like his siblings (Shoto, Natsu or Fuyumi), yet he chose to burn people alive. Thats...quite a jump.
@@sherlockhomeless4928 I think, Toya was fine. Yes, he was extremely emotional and tried to attack baby Shoto, but that's how neglected children react when they're confused and desperate to understand why their parent doesn't love them anymore -- first, they try to be good, hoping that it will fix whatever they did wrong, then they act out hoping to get at least some kind of response. Given that Enji used to give him all of his attention and kept talking about how great of a hero he would be -- and then just straight up stopped all interactions the moment Toya stopped being perfect, that hurt him on so many levels. Enji didn't even care to teach Toya how to reduce his flames, didn't bother with figuring out how to make sure that Toya didn't get hurt by his own Quirk -- he just told him to never use it again and go and play ball with friends or whatever. Rei tried to reach out to and comfort him and get him to enjoy life, but Toya, an angry teen who didn't realize why his father cast him aside, just lashed out at her in bitterness. Rei had a load of mental issues at this point -- her eldest son was miserable, her youngest son was isolated from the rest of the family and abused, and her husband assaulted her when she tried to protect her child -- so she was barely keeping it together. The manga implies that after Toya almost burned himself to death, All For One took him. He made sure that Toya had a traumatizing awakening: when he said he wanted to go home and ask for forgiveness, a disembodied voice told him that this was his home now and he was a failure (All For One just knew how to break him). Then Toya runs back home, but he sees that his family has moved on, and Enji doesn't give a crap about his dead son. If it had turned up that Enji had given up on training Shoto because Toya's supposed death affected him that much, it would have given Toya a clue that his family did care. But what he saw made him think that Endeavor didn't even notice his death because, to him, Toya was a failure and, therefore, it didn't matter if he lived or died. Remember that Endeavor was supposed to be that noble and benevolent hero, the one who decides what's good and what's bad -- especially in his son's eyes. So, when everyone's favorite hero acts like that and nobody gives a shit -- what is even real in this world? That's not an excuse for Dabi's actions, but that's how Toya died and Dabi was born -- his obsession with his father now made him hellbent on exposing his false ideals and making him finally look at him. Unlike Himiko, who was undoubtedly born a psychopath and is deeply affected by her Quirk, Toya used to be normal, maybe a bit hotheaded and overly passionate kid, who then got broken by his father's neglect and the twisted people who found him. There is no way back for him after all these murders, but it all could have been avoided if Enji had been a decent parent.
@@pokerface4396 You're reaching for the stars with this one. Both parents were shit and the child followed suit. His mother was scared of him and he endeavor gave up on him when he realized hes fucking burning himself with his quirk. Turned into neglect sure but he was looking out for the freak
@@pokerface4396Not exactly, Toya became a killer all on his own. His biggest issue was he couldn't let go of the fact that he wouldn't be thr prodigal son his father wanted. He still had opportunities most people don't.
the recent manga got me crying enji hates himself so much hes willing to die for his boys (shoto and touya) and he was panicking because he wanted to know if they were okay i really like the fact that he doesnt expect his family to ever forgive him and that he just wants them to be happy after all hes done at the cost of his own life
It disgusts me that people still trash Endeavor so much. At least his character is realistic to real world. Not everything is fairy tales and I like that they wrote one dad who is actually realistic. People can change and he deserves the love of his family.
Its understandable. People see the world in black and white. They don't care that he's been actively trying to face up to the problems he caused and take responsibility. All they want to do is see him suffer and to a degree, I understand that mentality. Its hard to forgive your abuser and many of these fans have been in the shoes of his kids or wife, so they can't see any concept of forgiveness, even if it helps them move on. They'll hold onto that hatred and resentment until they too die and those feelings are funneled onto Endeavor because his character represents what they hate about their personal bullies and abusers.
No, he doesn't deserve anything. It's up to his family to decide whether they forgive them or not -- he doesn't have a say in this after all he did to them. He is not the victim here. And even if they forgive him, it means they're ready to move on, supporting each other without him, but that doesn't mean they will love him again. All Endeavor can do is give them space, let them make their choices, and become the hero worthy of inheriting All-Might's rank.
Fr, people who're too salty about a fictional depiction of a domestic abuser reeks of someone who never experience real life situations like this. Like everybody knows it's bad and you're just being obnoxious with insulting an anime character like it's actually doing something for society.
I like that they're actually touching on this topic with the gravity is deserves, they don't glorify it and it's straight up ugly and all people can think about is "lol, Endevour is a bitch, I love his tears."
Rei was waaaaay meaner in the manga. She not only calls her son “Dabi” instead of Toya. But she tells Endeavor to suck it up, go out there, and fight their son less than 24 hours after the first fight. She also puts the responsibility of fighting Toya on Shoto.
What i got from reading the manga was that endeavor had trauma from the belief he lead to his son's death and though hes an imperfect person tried to push todoroki to achieve his success so that he wouldn't go down the same path as his older brother. He's imperfect so i thought it showed that as a way of showing he tried to help shoto in his own messed up way. Just the same way Rei has the exact trauma of blaming themselves for their sons "death" and tried to burn shoto as a way to discourage or stop him from becoming the same thing as his older brother. They arent perfect and it's realistic that after trauma people wont be enlightened thinkers like everyone thinks
Others have said it but I will too. This is a man who was so blinded by his own ambition he lost sight of what was important. He saw what he had become, but the damage was done, his wife was in hospital, his children hated him and his eldest became Dabi. He knows he has screwed up, he knows he did unforgivabe things. he knows he was an abuser who hurt his wife and child, and now that he is the one left at the top he realises just how badly he screwed up. He knows he has atoning to do and he knows he will spend the rest of his life proving to his family that he is not the monster he once was. But he will do it regardless, because he cannot bare the thought of losing them again.
To be fair, I'm always astounded that Heroes have no access to psychological help. Endeavor wouldn't have been so bad if he had had help in straightening his feelings.
I’m on season 5 and I’m starting to like him now. Ik toya already which is why I’m on this video, I had no clue people really hated him, I thought people were going to appreciate the little redemption arc
I appreciate the redemption arc and his character is very well written But the hate is fair this guy is garbage he abused his wife and kids till insanity (one of them cannot even be saved right now)
@@akhandtripathipyz9888 Except he didn't abuse Touya. That part's made rather clear. He was strict, yeah, but his relationship with his oldest son was positive. It's only when Touya was being harmed by his own powers that Enji stopped teaching him, and tried to get him to stop. Yes, he came at the problem the wrong way, but his intent was well-intentioned and he cared for his son a great deal. Touya seems to have been mentally fragile to begin with. When Touya died, Enji pretty much admits that he went kinda nuts, all that mattered from then on was training a successor. Honestly, Enji and Touya needed psychological help that neither ever received.
@@Ares99999 i disagree on Toya needing psychological help Enji made Toya know that his only worth is to surpass All might All he needed was more appreciation from his father in anything else instead of "Showing him the world of heroes"(said by endeavour after Toya almost killed shoto) and putting all blame to Rei Also he was straight up physically abusive to his wife and Shoto
@@citrusangel9488 I would say yeah after he realized what he did was messed up and tried to change and make up for it gradually. What special to me about endeavor is that when he realized he screwed up, he didn't try to make it all better right away and force his family to forgive him. He knew it was up to them to forgive him on their own terms. Or not at all. Despite all the horrible things he did, his self-awareness of the situation and damage caused, I find that admirable that endeavor dinette pressure or expect his family to forgive him. But still wanted to try.
Not really, since ofa and afo literally decides the state of their world...and the Todoroki plotline is a part of it, since it is closely connected to it... But, if you are talking about whether it is more interesting or not... I prefer the OFA vs afo since it has far more stuff about it and is the main story But then again, both of our opinions are, well...opinions...they are subjective...
As far as in concerned, Endeavor has earned my respect. The man made mistakes, but most people who do this cant even bring themselves to acknowlsge it. Endeavor has done that and more.
I see people saying people are horrible for hating enji as hes trying to do better, but dude... imagine youre dabi for a moment: Like bro, your dad goes out of his way to marry a woman with certain genetics just so he can beat another grown ass man at a competition, not through him, but the child that they make. If that is not weird don't know what is. So you're born into this world soley because your father is the second best at his job; and you know what? You're actually pretty fucking good at it. Arguably better then your dad is at like... five. Now normally this would be great but the problem is that one day you start getting burned and shit. Now what is your fathers reaction to this information? AFTER YEARS OF DEDICATION TO YA DAD, he LITERALLY LOOKS AT YOU, CALLS YOU A FALIURE, and then makes another kid specificlly to replace your entire existance. like.... I don't know why people are upset that hes upset... WOULD YOU NOT BE PISSED?
Doesn't justify him being a murderer and honestly who cares ? Even without his Quirk Dabi was still providing for them its not like he threw Dabi out of the house. He still could have live a very comfortable life. But he couldn't let it go. 🤷🏾
Also, not only your dad calls you a failure and makes another kid, once that kid fails to live up to his expectations, he makes another kid. And then another, and another, until he finally gets his “perfect one”. That’s fucked up. It’s kinda noteworthy that Dabi is more lenient towards the rest of his family. He hates Shoto because he is the “pinnacle” of Endeavor’s work that probably made everything he put his wife and kids through feel justified to him. But when he exposes Endeavor publicly, he mentions himself and his siblings who endured abuse and neglect. In a twisted way (because it’s not likely he’ll go out of his way to save them or spare them), he did them justice too by telling their story as well, instead of making it all about him.
@@pokerface4396 He never called Toya a failure. He simply stated with his side effect he can't surpass All Might. Toya was the one who took that as a sign if his father not wanting him. Endeavor prior to his side effect surfacing was fine training Toya despite him not having Reis ability with need I remind you was the literal point of their marriage. 🤷🏾 Did them justice ? Bro...Dabi literally tried to murder Shotos older brother. And when Shoto confronted him on it Dabi admits that was his goal because he wanted to see the pain it would cause Endevor. In the manga, it's no different he actively tried to kill all of them in the final arc. But sure he told their story, go Dabi 🤷🏾
@@masterDarts4188 Enji might have as well called Toya a failure because all his actions showed exactly that: your Quirk is flawed and so you have no value to me, I won’t spend time with you, I don’t care what you’re going to do with your life, I’ll replace you with another kid who hopefully won’t be defective and you just shut up and stop bothering me. Each time a kid didn’t meet his expectations, he stopped interacting with them and never cared about their needs. He treated them like failures, leaving Rei to pick up the pieces each time. This is the textbook definition of neglect. What else was Toya supposed to learn from it if Enji pretended he never existed unless he used his Quirk? As for Dabi, this is why I said in a “twisted way”. Dabi isn’t OK and hasn’t been OK ever since he emerged. He is full of hate to Endeavor and he also loathes himself (according to chapter 390 where he says that his entire family is living hell). Whatever love he had for his siblings and mom is twisted and overruled by his desire to hurt Endeavor. I never said that Dabi is a good person, but he is a tragic villain - and Endeavor played a huge part in his creation by warping his son’s idea of love and making him feel abandoned and discarded. Some villains have been evil from the beginning, but Toya isn’t one of them.
@@pokerface4396 Again you're reaching. Toya took it that way but that is not what Endevor did. Endeavor didn't push to have another child until after Toya kept training. That was when he reached the conclusion that the only way to stop Toya regression was to give birth to the perfect child. But again, that was a direct result of Toya bot stopping with his training. It came after that not before it. I don't disagree that Endeavor neglected them. But as I said that was out if ignorance not mailoicous intent. This is shown during the dinner he had with Bakugo and Deku, when it's brought up how he isolated Shoto he acknowledged how he didn't fully grasp the scale to which he was doing it. Endeavor played a part in Toyas decline sure. But Endeavor never made him a mass murderer. Toya did that all his own. 🤷🏾
Bullshit. He does deserve this, as he brought it on himself, but he also does deserve redemption because he is genuinely trying to become better and to make things better.
Idgaf about all the bitter people in here. This right here is true story telling and good character development which also add to the story.. you guy are all weird
I find it hilarious that Endeavor is hated, but you will see people stanning and loving villains who are psycho murderers and some of them are even straight sexual abusers (Griffith from Berserk). Like, people want to fuck Dabi and he is a terrorist, murderer, and psycho who involved the entire country in his conflict with Endeavor... and lots of fans love him! Endeavor, Griffith, and Dabi are all great characters but people loving and hating them as human beings depending on how their stories are delivered is hilarious.
It's all the fangirls with daddy issues. They see endeavor as more of a villain than the actual villians. They simp for dabi cause hes "hot" but hate on endeavor cause "dad was mean"
@@kevintanza6968You are damn right: Some Fans are so much self-satisfied hypocrites🙄 *Like, people want to fuck Dabi and he is a terrorist, murderer, and psycho who involved the entire country in his conflict with Endeavor... and lots of fans love him!* The Edward Cullen Syndrom. You know, the Vampire, wh fucking sparkling in the Sunshine (Twilight). He was a creepy Stalker, but the Fans love him, because he so hot🙄 Funfact: The Novels are so horrible. It's reading like a badwriting Fanfiction.
To fix this situation 101: Step 1: Use eraser dude quirk or sleeping gas to make sure they can’t do anything. Step 2: knock all the villains out after that Step 3: make eri rewind them all back to kids Step 4: put them in rehab until they chill Batabing bataboom ez
I hope the wife divorces his butt for all the trauma she had to endure because of him. She even had to be put in a mental hospital because she couldn't stand being in the same room as him. She burned her youngest child's face because she hated HIM so badly. She had to carry on the fact that she harmed her children because she hated their father to the point that even looking at a younger copy of him was enough to throw her into a fit of madness. She must've hated herself every day because of how her hatred for her husband led her to cause physical harm to her very innocent, very young, and very beloved child. She can accept his apology, but that doesn't mean she has to forgive him or continue being married to him.
It wasn't hatred that caused Rei to burn Shouto, but rather fear. If you go back to the anime/manga panels, you can see the terror in her eyes. I think she has a lot of complicated emotions about Endeavor, but I don't think hatred is one of them. I just really hope she can get on her feet and be able to live her life without fear.
What I notice is that you lot wouldn't feel the same way if Endeavor was a girl. His wife allowed the abuse as well, as she did nothing to stop it and didn't try to reel him in. Endeaver isn't evil, but he is very flawed, and she could have pointed that out. How come you guys hate Endeavor, yet the blood draining murder girl is a fan favorite?
@@nielsdejongnot to mention all the Mass Murderer Dabi stans. I swear those people think it's fine to kill someone out of rage if you tripped on a rock once because it's a sad backstory to them.
@@nielsdejong What kind of victim blaming bullshit. Rei didn't allow shit to happen to her, what did you want her to do against a man who could easily murder her? And Enji and that girl aren't the same. For one, one is a child while the other is a grown ass man.
While I will say this was coming since Endeavor was such a bastard to his family and trying to make amends wasn’t enough, considering how much he has changed since the second season he didn’t deserve this. I know he had it coming but still.
I wouldn't say he doesn't deserve this. This is just karma catching up to him, and more of a reason for him to try even harder at atoning for his mistakes.
@@jaimiranda8563 Oh yes he does deserve it. The other heroes obviously don't and are just caught in the crossfire, but scr*w Endeavors public image. Let it reflect his private image like a mirror.
Endeavor’s past actions caused significant harm to his family, especially to Toya, who later became Dabi. His abusive behavior towards his family, driven by his obsession with surpassing All Might, left deep scars. Endeavor's efforts to change and atone for his past mistakes, as pointed out by Midoriya, show that he is trying to become a better person and a true hero. The idea of giving someone a second chance is important, as it allows for growth and redemption. However, it's crucial to recognize that forgiveness is a personal and individual choice, especially for those who have been directly hurt. Hatred indeed perpetuates a cycle of pain and suffering. Endeavor's journey towards redemption and the Todoroki family’s healing process underline that while the past cannot be undone, people can work towards a better future. Whether or not they choose to forgive Endeavor is their decision, but the possibility of change and forgiveness offers a path to healing.
Endeavor deserves forgiveness. Regardless of the things he’s done, regardless of how horrible his actions against his family were, he’s learned from his atrocities. He’s recognized the damage, and rather than running away from that damage he’s facing his failures. He’s finding the true meaning of what it means to become and wield the title of “hero”. He may have started off a monster, but he deserves the chance to display his will to change, and become a true hero.
I'm surprised that people still can't grasp Enji's arc even when it's almost explicitly stated at them. He expects atonment, but not forgiveness, because it isn't his or bystanders' decision whether he deserves the latter, which resulted in him not demanding a seat with his family. We can only expect his lesson to be sufficient reason if we assumed that all the world revolved around him and therefore it is acceptable that innocent people dying for him to learn something is just another day in the office. But the world doesn't revolve around him and trying to tell Touya's victims that Enji learnt his lesson, so it's fine would like spitting in their face. Whenever abuse happens it's victims that are put as the most important. BNHA got it right, yet somehow its fandom still can't get it?
I love how when enji was fighting the high end nomu, his wife was praising him, then when he actually apologizes to them for everything, she berates him lmfao. But that aside, endeavor, you can tell he never meant to abuse his family and hurt them, he was only blind sighted by rage and the desire to beat all might that he unintentionally dragged his family into the ground. When he saw toya again in the newest episodes he broke down for Christ sakes. A real abuser, a man who intentionally destroys the family and abuse his loved ones, wouldn’t have done that. Endeavor may have done horrible things, but the fact that he understands what he’s done, and the fact that he’s been trying to fix it, that we’ve seen, for at least a season now, just shows that he does truly regret what he’s done. Not to mention he tried visiting his wife many times in the hospital, gave and sent her flowers too, her favorite ones to be exact, the fact that he remembered her favorite flowers after so long and after all the rage and fear, shows he did actually love his family, even though he didn’t show it. He has my infinite respect for the man he’s trying to become. He should have all of yours too
It’s not that she berates him, she gives his guilt a reality check. The whole point of the scene is that she’s accepting responsibility for how Toya turned out just as much as Enji. She failed to see how just badly her son was suffering from the neglect, and she owns up to that.
The issue is he is a highly divisive character so he won’t get that(respect from some fans). However he is a great character to show the darker side of obsession and how blinding along with damaging it can be not just for the one blinded but those around them.
Yeah man, I can't respect a guy for destroying his entire family because he couldn't be Number 1. Just because his family forgave him, doesn't mean Dabi has to. He married his wife for the soul purpose of a designer quirk, neglected his first born son instead of teaching him how to control his powers, had another child, neglected them, had another child, neglected them, and then had ANOTHER child and when that child was perfect he shut down his wife, his three children, and ONLY spent any real meaningful time with one child, and that was pure training. Lets not forget, he verbally and physically abused his wife to the point of a mental breakdown which forced her to stay in a hospital for YEARS, until she finally snapped out of it. I'm sorry, but decades of treating people like absolute shit doesn't compare to a few tears and an I'm sorry. The fact that it took his own son exposing him for his actions for him to really get it through his thick skull that he's a piece of shit, is alarming. Dabi deserves a family, Endeavor doesn't deserve anything end of story. When real life celebrities are found out to be serial abusers, majority of time they never get another job again, or get jailtime. Endeavor shouldn't get any respect, he should be in prison for multiple felonies.
The thing is: if Shoto and her mother, who suffered more, forgave him and give a second chance; why people watching the anime r hating Endeavor so much and not giving him a second chance???
It's kind of corny that people still defend him despite everything he has done, he changed because that was the only option for him and not out of pure regret
In fact, the people are guilty in this situation, because the people only support the person they find sympathetic, Enji has stayed so far behind and made greed, I hate this situation, people who rise with their own efforts can't get the value they deserve.
Anime fan be like: Someone killed 10000 person without any reason but he turned into good side Anime fans:yes that cool yeah i love him Someone tried to make a masterpiece to reach his goal but his family hated him And he changed and built his family again and made them one again and tried to be a better person and want to changed and he was ready to scrafice his live to saved his son who choosed to become a villain and killed 9 persons without any reason and he saved him from burned himself and standed again to fight and when he done he goes to see what us happened to shoto and his wife and when he got tired and can't stand anymore after some minutes he staned again to fight all for one side by side his son Anime fans:noooo he is bad ge dersved to die not fair
Enji be like: "oh no! the consequences of my own actions!" He has had a lot of growth leading up to this, and that makes him an interesting and diverse character. And he's an amazing hero. But he's still an abuser.
Endeavor changed, Or is changing. He realizes he fucked up. Its time for the rest of the family to join because One of their family is an active psycho and Mama Todoroki needs to bring out the slipper
In a way is certainly funny how people react to Endeavor crying. The anime itself it’s a reflection of the fandom, some people stand Endeavor, some chose to point the finger and say “b*tch I’m never going to forgive you for this”. Do you have never screw up in your time? Have you never hurt someone? Have you never did bad stuff that you regret maybe too late? You mostly will, humans aren’t perfect. We screw things up, we hurt people, and our actions take repercussions in others life. Forgiveness is not earned, somethings are that horrible that can be forgiven, nevertheless the ability to forgive this is what make us humans, is what makes bad people change to good people, rather than sink into the darkness. If you still choose to not forgive someone, that’s your right, I hope you live for that standard, and I hope that when you screw up, they don’t forgive you too.
he literally abused his own family for years and gave them all scars that would last a lifetime, thats not just a simple mistake that most people do, he is not pure evil but that does not mean his family should be forced to forgive him for what he did
The problem is that "screw up" isn't the word I'd use here. Forgetting your friend's birthday? That's screwing up. Accidentally pushing someone off the stairs? That's screwing up. Scratching someone's car? That's screwing up. Repeatedly abusing helpless and vulnerable children, you were supposed to love and protect unconditionally? Pushing them to their mental limits? Turning your partner into some breeding horse and making her suffer? Ruining your son's childhood and making him emotionally stunted without friends or social connections? That's being a failure of a parent. Endeavor simply couldn't stop fucking his own shit up, even though Toya's death was a damn good reason to stop and realize how wrong he was. This is why some people don't feel bad about him feeling bad - he made his family feel much, much worse.
but, its toya hurts himself too, thats why endevour stops him...i know past never dies, what endevour done in past is not right, but like midoriya says he is trying to change himself, we should also give him the second chance and its definitely up to Todoroki family whether they want to give him a chance or not. hatred is never the solution of any problem.
It annoys me when people try to defend this monster. Saying he's "realistic" and "people change" that he "deserves his family's love". He bought a human to breed with - thats called a sex slave. You know who else is realistic? His children. Especially Toya. And for people who have been abused, for people like myself who relate to Toya and his siblings - no child abuser deserves redemption. Let alone forgiveness. Besides. If Endeavor genuinely wanted to atone for his buying a sex slave and abusing and neglecting his children, then he would have gone public with his crimes and turned himself in, rather than protecting his ill gotten gains. He still only cares about that number one spot. His cute little redemption ark is BS and honestly its easily to take it as nothing more than further psychological manipulation of his children. If you think that he deserves forgiveness you have clearly never been in the position of his wife or his children. Spoilers below: Dabi deserves his justice and a redemption arch far more than Endeavor does. Its entirely Endeavor's fault Dabi has done everything that he's done; he lit this fire in his son and drove him to he the point of insanity, only to rip the rug out from under him. Its no wonder at all that Toya snapped. Just as he was with Shoto's scar, Endeavor may not have been the gun himself but he was certainly the hand. He made Dabi. He is just as responsible for Dabi's crimes as Dabi himself.
Dabi murdered 30 people. Those 30 people were his choices. Shoto also got abused by Endeavor and didn't turn out to be a psycho. Rei has an ice Quirk and didn't become a criminal for the abuse. Endeavor is responsible for their traumas but your actions are your own. No one cares about Hitler's childhood to justify his crimes because his actions were his own. Endeavor is an abuser and Dabi is a criminal and a murderer.
Dabi killed people out of his own accord and Rei burned her fucking child and neglected the other, both parents were absolute garbage but you'll just forgive Rei like that because of a sad backstory. Both parents turned into horrible people and both should be having tomatos thrown at them
Endeavor is a piece of shit but neither Enji nor Rei ever murdered anyone. Dabi made himself a piece of shit by killing 30 people unrelated to his trauma. He does not deserve his redemption.
Nope. Enji, no matter how awful he was, was at the core a man broken and embittered by the loss of his eldest son, to the point that he lost sight of the rest of the family, caring only with 'beating Allmight'. Thanos was seemingly the genocidal extremist from a young age. Enji is also now tortured by his own misdeeds, and he tries to genuinely repent for them even though he's aware (and accepting) that he'll never be forgiven for it. Thanos feels some guilt but in no way lets that stop him from genocide.
@Ares99999 ok, but what does Thanos think of Endeavor, what will the Mad Titan say about him being a bad father of the way he treated his own eldest son toy, his other son Todoroki and the rest of his Family? P.S. I was referring to Comic Thanos, not MCU Thanos.
did anyone else laugh when he was slowly laying back down in fhe hospital bed? to be honest i laughed through this episode alot, im just here to snark on the show basically. he reminds me of my own father, i just laugh at him most of the time.
@@planetearth9471 i actually do, you wont understand. but no seriously, he deserves this so much, all the bull shit he put on them kids. ohh i love it!
@@Aight__4 nah shit he deserves it , it's all coming down on him and it's great and I do understand the part that pisses me off is how people are LITERALLY projecting it onto a character that compared to their shit father actually acknowledges how much of pos they are and how bad he made his entire family and STRIVES to make a change(even if it's a little cause this shit just dosnt happen all at once) compared to I'm guessing your pos father would he even acknowledge the fact of how bad he hurt you. No? Then at least WATCH with an open mind with how endeavor is gonna tackle this and MAYBE realize that ppl are capable of change
@@planetearth9471 actually my dad is trying to turn it around like endevor so yeah. you dont know anything about me and my family situation, so you dont know what my dads actually trying to do so he can better bond with me, dont just assume stuff about people's lives, cause its obvious there was a reason i compared. dont try to make it all about you...cause do you have these problems yourself?? -- if you dont, then you shouldn't even be opening your mouth on a situation like this. but if you do, that just means we are seeing the world differently and our dads are just doing two different things.
(sigh) you know what aggravates me with situations like this? People trying to paint somebody indefinitely out to be a bad person because of the past. For one, if anyone was truly wise, mature and understanding you gots to look at both aspects of why a person may commit certain actions before judging them. Now I am not saying that what he did was just because no! Tbh endeavor has a lot to clean and clear up on his end when it comes to his family, but what I am saying is a lot of times peoples who may abuse their family or others is not necessarily out of personal gain or pure spite in some cases. Alot of time abusers were abused before by their own predecessors and past demons in this case that could be why endeavor turned out the way he was due to trying to up hold his family's name and honor. His father could have put him through the same abuse and that is all he knows when it comes to being a person, father, hero, human being and successor to his families name. People don't realize as a man society is more harder on them because due to some outdated traditional stand point men have to uphold the hierarchy and if they do or don't decides over all if they will be respected or not. From what I can see this has been endeavors whole purpose and motivation of being a hero he was trying so hard to out do all might that he forgot himself and neglected his family. Im just saying before people try to point fingers, beat up and be critical on others know the facts in full depths first. 🤷♂️
Dude really all of them but shoto kind of suck but yall r too blind by endeavor to realize it. Also at the end of the day he tried to protect toya more than any of them. She was a failure of a mother too. I dont get how yall think
There are 666 comments as I type this. A fitting number, given the composition of this comment section as a whole Seriously, you'd think I'd have learned to stop trying to find useful discourse in these things
At the first glance Endeavor look like a selfish and ruthless person but now i start to understand and like the character: yeah he was a turd with his family but his inferiority complex and desire to receive the recognition from the citizens pushed him in the wrong path. He have understandable reasons but his methods wasn't right. Seriously compare to guys like Gento Ikari from Neo Genesis evangelion, Shou Tucker, Dario Brando or Gendo Ikari, Endeavor is all but a heartless man.
Main character get all praise+some quirk.well side charater like all might mirio night eye endeavor all have shit plot..nerf all in one..god job horikoshi..
All the praise?Dude,LOOK AT MIDORIYA!!He looks like final season Eren now.I won't even be surprised if he tried to off himself after he's done with AFO.
Evil people do some good deeds people forgive their past. Good people do 1 mistek and people make them villain. 😂 Past never due that's a truth because you can't change them. And you should be punished for your past actions no matter how much good you become
GOOD PEOPLE torturing a mother in front of her child and a child infront of her mother each and every leading them to insanity Also neglecting a son as if he is a broken toy (dabi) He doesn't deserve anything
So because is something he did which he obviously regrets and wishes he can undo he is permanently a bad man. Well, I guess no one deserves a second chance
Endeavor's still a POS but hes trying to change and thats what matters, but a phrase i like seems pretty appropriate here "you dont get live a bad life and expect good things to happen to you in the end"
My feelings for endeavor depend on how he was raised because if he was treated like this I would feel some empathy for the man since that means he doesn't know how to operate properly.....but if that's not the case then I feel no empathy
We all have regrets, that’s why it’s so important to forgive others as well as ourselves, as it is written, “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.” Matthew 5:7
She’s not like before. She’s not afraid of him now. She wants to focus on the divided Todoroki family that her husband left. Starting with their son Toya.
Can’t get how everyone hates on endeavor, but at the same time cheers for Rei.
She did also a lot of things wrong, like the fuck burning her son. But y’all forgive her like nothing, meanwhile can’t feel bad for Endeavor cries over Toya. I love Shoto and I knew that he doesn’t really know Toya, but I mean we can see in the fight that Endeavor is the one and only who truly struggle with fighting Toya. He has a heart and he loves his family. He made mistakes, but so they all did.
@@emmi3058 The whole family was messed up because of what Enji did. He wanted a child to carry on his legacy and that child can surpass All might. But it went wrong. Way horribly wrong.
It's just like I read on the official MHA/BOKU NO HERO Wikia page. Despite all the rage she has towards her estranged husband for what he put her and their children through, Rei Todoroki is determined to put an end to her family's dark legacy in Dabi once and for all.
She was institutionalized because of the loss of Her son+Endeavors abuse, she simply couldn’t handle the loss of one of her children. Once she learned that Toya was alive, it gave her hope and lifted her from her depression.
@@emmi3058 she was the victim of domestic abuse, of course we love her, she came back stronger
This will be so good. Rei finally faces him.
Yeah
@@topanimevideos endvear I have been blessed with a smile and a wonderful world peace heroes saved people to come back be heroes one for all Farwell of voice dream of a dream in which you can change post do you strong or a good person is a beautiful pain fath blessed bloom day long time together in life blessedness for the most until from now on the way to do something special derves be pro heroes rising sunrise wiped out tears wind some heroes justice in simpbol of peace of like all might be needed for this day light star gary haven carrying meant by you and I hope you are great endvear as always loved your big parents had future planet and their children with lucky children are safely somewhere in not danger of being so successful with grace and happiness joy for your families todoroki too much like a lot together
What do you mean 😂 she’s there to show that she was at fault for Dabi getting like that lol
There's never a tea-kettle around when you need one...
@@ajax4801 They all are sans Shoto.
Endeavor: I don't want to hurt my own son...
Shouto: *signing in JSL* "That never stopped you before... twice."
Because he changed ? Or do you want him to continue doing that and be a bad father til the very end of the series ? Yeah, he done it before, and that's exactly why he doesn't want to do it again
@@ijustwanttowatchtheworldbu4664 too late
@@bgos4727 for one of them, it's not yet for the rest of the family and he proved it by helping them return together, even at his own expense. If everyone think like you lot then the death penalty should be the only penalty
@@ijustwanttowatchtheworldbu4664For one of them? Is that supposed to make the situation better?
@@Vy-if3zd emotionally ? Probably not, logically ? Yes, absolute fucking yes
It's this scene specifically that made Rei my absolute favorite MHA mom
You love mentally ill characters? Bet you didn’t fully read her character
She’s been through a lot. She may have been used but she is the mother of her children.
@@kuraito1346She's great at throwing tea-kettles 🤷🏻♀️.
Rei would probadly win a lot of medals, should that ever become an official sport
I don’t know how the anime goes but in the manga she tells Enji to suck it up and go out to fight their son. Notably she also calls him Dabi instead of Toya. She also then puts the responsibility of dealing with Toya on Shoto
Her power is cold but she is hot af
Endeavor himself knows about the damage he has done.
Thanks to the abuse, he did to his family born from his insecurity over surpassing All Might, it made his firstborn son Touya hate him and believe he and other heroes before and after him were a corrupt people thanks to the ideology inspired by Stain.
Thus Touya craved only revenge and began on a path of vengeance as the League of Villains’ Dabi, killing many lives and becoming the most dangerous villain ever known in the world of My Hero Academia.
And this is a moment I will always take seriously. Because it is one of those moments in anime and manga where an abusive parent knows that his or her actions have created irreparable damage. Along with extreme consequences to the point of where the damage is done.
Endeavour realises he has created the most dangerous supervillain of all time. And compared to the abusive training he gave Shoto and the treatment he had towards Rei, I always feel like how he not cared about Touya was the more serious and dire moment of his abuse, because that very abuse and neglect turned him into the villain he is today.
And there is no one he could blame but himself; he is the sole cause of all of this.
There are also several layers to this as it is true what deku had said it's dabis quirk and he is hypocritical for trying to point out endeavours flaws when he is commiting atrocities such as murder, endeavour did some awful things truely and you are right he knows that, but this show is proving that he isn't that same man anymore he himself wants to attone and to improve, it takes alot of guys for there family to make the steps to support him especially being the victims but they made the absolute best steps to actually improving there lives by working through this mental block and honestly endeavour outside of who he was this side seems remorseful sentimental even an being like that myself i couldn't imagine seeing everything i had done and my family who I had deeply hurt so yeah I can't hate endeavour only hate the things he has done in the past as a different kind of man ahdgzh
he tries to atone, but really he is just trying to escape his failings as a father and hero as well as his creation, Toya
@@jayarkhalis6732 if he was trying to escape, he wouldn't tell the media that everything Dabi said was true.
My hero academia has taught me that domestic abuse is fine is you cry 😊
@@edencieslowski9310
What the hell are you saying?!
I mean even Endeavour knows it is all his fault.
Im so proud of this family, rei showed up to help even when endeavour has been part of her trauma she continues to face him for the sake of the family, and endeavour has changed so much, think of what he was like then and now, he has such great character development hes changed as a father and a person. I dont even have to mention shoto, the fact that he still tolerates endeavour and his mom is the sign of a pure kind hearted hero. Fuyumi has always tried to keep the family sane, after her mom went to the hospital, i feel like she realised what toya had been going through, it was just too late to help, natsuo has also come akong way, and im proud of touya for surviving all that honestly.
Let's compare:
In Kung Fu Panda, master Sifu only realizes how badly he screwed up raising Tau Lung after the latter beat him to a bloody pulp, all the while pointing out his numerous failures as a father. In Tai Lung's own words, Sifu filled his head with dreams, drove him to train until his bones cracked and denied him his destiny when he chose not to speak up for him when his master refused. He never even once visited him in 20 years of being imprisoned, only owning up to his mistakes well past the point where his son could be reasoned with anymore.
Meanwhile, Endeavor only realizes how royally he screwed up after his allegedly dead son comes back as a psychotic serial killer who has to flat-out spell out to him that he put his entire family through hell for nothing and that he only snapped after seeing his father not having learned a thing even after what his abuse and neglect did to him.
Just 2 deadbeat fathers having their hellspawn sons repay them for the literal hell they were put through.
But sifu saved Tai lung when he was a baby and had to abandon him once he saw the malice inside him (malice that was a result of sifu spoiling him and giving him special treatment) but nonetheless at its core sifu's intentions were good whereas endeavor was selfish and used his influence to force a marriage and get a child with power that could rival all might and he forced 6yo Toya to deal with the same frustration that corrupted endeavor. And when it was revealed that Toya couldn't achieve endeavor's goal, he abandoned him like the rest of the siblings and switched to shoto instead of confronting his feelings. Sifu and endeavor might be similar but endeavor is by far worse that sifu. He is a character that is hard to resonate with and still at the end, even after his past you can't help but root for the guy. Endeavor is by far the best written character in the show along with bakugou, stain and twice.
It’s been a while since I’ve watched Kung Fu panda, so I can’t really comment there, although I can definitely say that Enji definitely deserves this. Tbh, I think Enji got off way to easy in retrospect, but I guess I’ll have to wait and see how his arc ends. I don’t really know if Enji’s can be salvaged though so I won’t hold my breath.
Damn. Did Po kill Tai Lung? He did the “Skadoosh”‘ move on
@@amuroray9115 no in the later films its shown that when someone is skadooshed they are sent to the spirit realm meaning they are dead physically but spiritually they arent. mind you if they are mortal's.
Still don't know why the wife forgave the domestic violence she went through
Endeavor: I cannot fight my own son.
Todoroki: Dude....
Basically, he never fought any of his child. In the past, it was a one-sided abuse, not a fight. When he fought Dabi, he didn't know it was Toya all along
@@mediumtext8038 Endeavor never fought Dabi
@@alex939709 Even though it's not cannon, Endeavor had a short blast with Dabi/Toya in the movie Heroes Rising.
Hes had no problem beating them before 💀
Honestly, I can’t say I feel bad for him. Endeavor’s mistreatment and abuse has all lead him to this point. He really did have it coming. And I don’t think any empty promises of “atonement” are gonna change my mind now at this point.
Agreed
Nope. I never felt bad for him. He was a glorified asshole. He abused his own children and his wife. He walked around with arrogance.
Do you read manga?
@@chadku Yep
And he chose to not let it break him. This man knows he's got an entire lifetime's worth of atonement to do for his family and he's trying his best, and I can't help but respect him for that.
Endeavor is de-
Hey look dad's crying.
SHOOOTTOOOOOO
Reis Speech. I am crying of laughing. Its so casual and so...easy. Translatet to: "Fuck of, Get your ass together. We have to speak!"
*Me:* Tell me current number 1 ranking hero? Is the spot worth all the suffering you put in your family though?
Never mess with Karma.
Karma never forgives or forgets.
I think hes asking himself that very question right now. Looking down at that crowd of people that either hate him, like him, or respect him seeing that this is exactly what he wanted but looking at his family he is thinking "at what cost?
It's like Kratos after committing a genocide, slaughtering the entire Greek pantheon. Then Kratos decided to change, start a new life in Midgard and become a better person. But the past still haunts him
It wasn't a problem until Endeavor developed... *feelings* and junk 🤮. Your bro went from Sigma to sissy boy. He isn't even a man no longer.
@@AngelloDelNorte ?
I like how people actively hate on Endeavor, but gloss over the fact, that Dabi did all of this willingly and on his own accord.
The problem is, Endeavor stopped caring for Toya as soon as he realized he can't make a picture-perfect hero out of him -- to the point where he won't hear him out and won't stop his abuse of Shoto even after Toya's supposed demise. Yes, Endeavor isn't responsible for the things Dabi did, but he is responsible for Toya becoming Dabi.
Yes and no. While yes, I agree that the unecessary neglect that Toya recieved, was just wrong and unforgivable...on both parent's sides (Like, from what we saw, he literally only had Natsu), but to say that Endeavor and Endeavor alone is the reason for Toya turning into Dabi is just plain wrong. The boy was always a little off. Not only that, he could've turned out like his siblings (Shoto, Natsu or Fuyumi), yet he chose to burn people alive. Thats...quite a jump.
@@sherlockhomeless4928 I think, Toya was fine. Yes, he was extremely emotional and tried to attack baby Shoto, but that's how neglected children react when they're confused and desperate to understand why their parent doesn't love them anymore -- first, they try to be good, hoping that it will fix whatever they did wrong, then they act out hoping to get at least some kind of response. Given that Enji used to give him all of his attention and kept talking about how great of a hero he would be -- and then just straight up stopped all interactions the moment Toya stopped being perfect, that hurt him on so many levels. Enji didn't even care to teach Toya how to reduce his flames, didn't bother with figuring out how to make sure that Toya didn't get hurt by his own Quirk -- he just told him to never use it again and go and play ball with friends or whatever.
Rei tried to reach out to and comfort him and get him to enjoy life, but Toya, an angry teen who didn't realize why his father cast him aside, just lashed out at her in bitterness. Rei had a load of mental issues at this point -- her eldest son was miserable, her youngest son was isolated from the rest of the family and abused, and her husband assaulted her when she tried to protect her child -- so she was barely keeping it together.
The manga implies that after Toya almost burned himself to death, All For One took him. He made sure that Toya had a traumatizing awakening: when he said he wanted to go home and ask for forgiveness, a disembodied voice told him that this was his home now and he was a failure (All For One just knew how to break him).
Then Toya runs back home, but he sees that his family has moved on, and Enji doesn't give a crap about his dead son. If it had turned up that Enji had given up on training Shoto because Toya's supposed death affected him that much, it would have given Toya a clue that his family did care. But what he saw made him think that Endeavor didn't even notice his death because, to him, Toya was a failure and, therefore, it didn't matter if he lived or died. Remember that Endeavor was supposed to be that noble and benevolent hero, the one who decides what's good and what's bad -- especially in his son's eyes. So, when everyone's favorite hero acts like that and nobody gives a shit -- what is even real in this world?
That's not an excuse for Dabi's actions, but that's how Toya died and Dabi was born -- his obsession with his father now made him hellbent on exposing his false ideals and making him finally look at him. Unlike Himiko, who was undoubtedly born a psychopath and is deeply affected by her Quirk, Toya used to be normal, maybe a bit hotheaded and overly passionate kid, who then got broken by his father's neglect and the twisted people who found him. There is no way back for him after all these murders, but it all could have been avoided if Enji had been a decent parent.
@@pokerface4396 You're reaching for the stars with this one. Both parents were shit and the child followed suit. His mother was scared of him and he endeavor gave up on him when he realized hes fucking burning himself with his quirk. Turned into neglect sure but he was looking out for the freak
@@pokerface4396Not exactly, Toya became a killer all on his own. His biggest issue was he couldn't let go of the fact that he wouldn't be thr prodigal son his father wanted.
He still had opportunities most people don't.
the recent manga got me crying enji hates himself so much hes willing to die for his boys (shoto and touya) and he was panicking because he wanted to know if they were okay
i really like the fact that he doesnt expect his family to ever forgive him and that he just wants them to be happy after all hes done at the cost of his own life
It disgusts me that people still trash Endeavor so much. At least his character is realistic to real world. Not everything is fairy tales and I like that they wrote one dad who is actually realistic. People can change and he deserves the love of his family.
Its understandable. People see the world in black and white. They don't care that he's been actively trying to face up to the problems he caused and take responsibility. All they want to do is see him suffer and to a degree, I understand that mentality. Its hard to forgive your abuser and many of these fans have been in the shoes of his kids or wife, so they can't see any concept of forgiveness, even if it helps them move on. They'll hold onto that hatred and resentment until they too die and those feelings are funneled onto Endeavor because his character represents what they hate about their personal bullies and abusers.
No, he doesn't deserve anything. It's up to his family to decide whether they forgive them or not -- he doesn't have a say in this after all he did to them. He is not the victim here.
And even if they forgive him, it means they're ready to move on, supporting each other without him, but that doesn't mean they will love him again. All Endeavor can do is give them space, let them make their choices, and become the hero worthy of inheriting All-Might's rank.
And they simp for serial killer but trash Endeavor at the same time
Fr, people who're too salty about a fictional depiction of a domestic abuser reeks of someone who never experience real life situations like this. Like everybody knows it's bad and you're just being obnoxious with insulting an anime character like it's actually doing something for society.
I like that they're actually touching on this topic with the gravity is deserves, they don't glorify it and it's straight up ugly and all people can think about is "lol, Endevour is a bitch, I love his tears."
Rei was waaaaay meaner in the manga. She not only calls her son “Dabi” instead of Toya. But she tells Endeavor to suck it up, go out there, and fight their son less than 24 hours after the first fight. She also puts the responsibility of fighting Toya on Shoto.
About damn time Mama Rei take charge...
I just hope in the end endeavour proves he isn’t the old enji either saving them or sacrificing
What i got from reading the manga was that endeavor had trauma from the belief he lead to his son's death and though hes an imperfect person tried to push todoroki to achieve his success so that he wouldn't go down the same path as his older brother. He's imperfect so i thought it showed that as a way of showing he tried to help shoto in his own messed up way. Just the same way Rei has the exact trauma of blaming themselves for their sons "death" and tried to burn shoto as a way to discourage or stop him from becoming the same thing as his older brother. They arent perfect and it's realistic that after trauma people wont be enlightened thinkers like everyone thinks
Others have said it but I will too. This is a man who was so blinded by his own ambition he lost sight of what was important. He saw what he had become, but the damage was done, his wife was in hospital, his children hated him and his eldest became Dabi. He knows he has screwed up, he knows he did unforgivabe things. he knows he was an abuser who hurt his wife and child, and now that he is the one left at the top he realises just how badly he screwed up. He knows he has atoning to do and he knows he will spend the rest of his life proving to his family that he is not the monster he once was.
But he will do it regardless, because he cannot bare the thought of losing them again.
To be fair, I'm always astounded that Heroes have no access to psychological help. Endeavor wouldn't have been so bad if he had had help in straightening his feelings.
I’m on season 5 and I’m starting to like him now. Ik toya already which is why I’m on this video, I had no clue people really hated him, I thought people were going to appreciate the little redemption arc
I appreciate the redemption arc and his character is very well written
But the hate is fair this guy is garbage he abused his wife and kids till insanity (one of them cannot even be saved right now)
@@akhandtripathipyz9888 Except he didn't abuse Touya. That part's made rather clear. He was strict, yeah, but his relationship with his oldest son was positive. It's only when Touya was being harmed by his own powers that Enji stopped teaching him, and tried to get him to stop. Yes, he came at the problem the wrong way, but his intent was well-intentioned and he cared for his son a great deal. Touya seems to have been mentally fragile to begin with.
When Touya died, Enji pretty much admits that he went kinda nuts, all that mattered from then on was training a successor. Honestly, Enji and Touya needed psychological help that neither ever received.
@@Ares99999 i disagree on Toya needing psychological help
Enji made Toya know that his only worth is to surpass All might
All he needed was more appreciation from his father in anything else instead of "Showing him the world of heroes"(said by endeavour after Toya almost killed shoto) and putting all blame to Rei
Also he was straight up physically abusive to his wife and Shoto
@@akhandtripathipyz9888 "physically abusive to his wife"
Nope
@@Zorban13 yes he was
I hope Endeavour finds peace with his family... He deserves it after all he's been through.
Agreed.
he deserves it?
@@citrusangel9488 I would say yeah after he realized what he did was messed up and tried to change and make up for it gradually.
What special to me about endeavor is that when he realized he screwed up, he didn't try to make it all better right away and force his family to forgive him. He knew it was up to them to forgive him on their own terms. Or not at all. Despite all the horrible things he did, his self-awareness of the situation and damage caused, I find that admirable that endeavor dinette pressure or expect his family to forgive him. But still wanted to try.
Hey Obito you destroyed many families over a girl and in exchange you died as a Virgin.
@@-Neon- LMAO-
Being the number 1 hero is a big responsibility. Endeavor immediately regret what he's done.
Seeing and hearing endeavor crying is like a soul satisfying asmr.
Honestly the todoroki story line is way more important than deku and his plot armor story.
Most definitely
Not really, since ofa and afo literally decides the state of their world...and the Todoroki plotline is a part of it, since it is closely connected to it...
But, if you are talking about whether it is more interesting or not...
I prefer the OFA vs afo since it has far more stuff about it and is the main story
But then again, both of our opinions are, well...opinions...they are subjective...
@@redchris7352its an established fact that Deku's story is only hanging on plot armour
As far as in concerned, Endeavor has earned my respect.
The man made mistakes, but most people who do this cant even bring themselves to acknowlsge it.
Endeavor has done that and more.
Wtf
@@imLain65he’s spitting
I see people saying people are horrible for hating enji as hes trying to do better, but dude... imagine youre dabi for a moment: Like bro, your dad goes out of his way to marry a woman with certain genetics just so he can beat another grown ass man at a competition, not through him, but the child that they make. If that is not weird don't know what is. So you're born into this world soley because your father is the second best at his job; and you know what? You're actually pretty fucking good at it. Arguably better then your dad is at like... five. Now normally this would be great but the problem is that one day you start getting burned and shit. Now what is your fathers reaction to this information? AFTER YEARS OF DEDICATION TO YA DAD, he LITERALLY LOOKS AT YOU, CALLS YOU A FALIURE, and then makes another kid specificlly to replace your entire existance. like.... I don't know why people are upset that hes upset... WOULD YOU NOT BE PISSED?
Doesn't justify him being a murderer and honestly who cares ? Even without his Quirk Dabi was still providing for them its not like he threw Dabi out of the house.
He still could have live a very comfortable life.
But he couldn't let it go. 🤷🏾
Also, not only your dad calls you a failure and makes another kid, once that kid fails to live up to his expectations, he makes another kid. And then another, and another, until he finally gets his “perfect one”. That’s fucked up.
It’s kinda noteworthy that Dabi is more lenient towards the rest of his family. He hates Shoto because he is the “pinnacle” of Endeavor’s work that probably made everything he put his wife and kids through feel justified to him. But when he exposes Endeavor publicly, he mentions himself and his siblings who endured abuse and neglect. In a twisted way (because it’s not likely he’ll go out of his way to save them or spare them), he did them justice too by telling their story as well, instead of making it all about him.
@@pokerface4396 He never called Toya a failure. He simply stated with his side effect he can't surpass All Might. Toya was the one who took that as a sign if his father not wanting him.
Endeavor prior to his side effect surfacing was fine training Toya despite him not having Reis ability with need I remind you was the literal point of their marriage. 🤷🏾
Did them justice ?
Bro...Dabi literally tried to murder Shotos older brother. And when Shoto confronted him on it Dabi admits that was his goal because he wanted to see the pain it would cause Endevor.
In the manga, it's no different he actively tried to kill all of them in the final arc.
But sure he told their story, go Dabi 🤷🏾
@@masterDarts4188
Enji might have as well called Toya a failure because all his actions showed exactly that: your Quirk is flawed and so you have no value to me, I won’t spend time with you, I don’t care what you’re going to do with your life, I’ll replace you with another kid who hopefully won’t be defective and you just shut up and stop bothering me.
Each time a kid didn’t meet his expectations, he stopped interacting with them and never cared about their needs. He treated them like failures, leaving Rei to pick up the pieces each time. This is the textbook definition of neglect. What else was Toya supposed to learn from it if Enji pretended he never existed unless he used his Quirk?
As for Dabi, this is why I said in a “twisted way”. Dabi isn’t OK and hasn’t been OK ever since he emerged. He is full of hate to Endeavor and he also loathes himself (according to chapter 390 where he says that his entire family is living hell). Whatever love he had for his siblings and mom is twisted and overruled by his desire to hurt Endeavor. I never said that Dabi is a good person, but he is a tragic villain - and Endeavor played a huge part in his creation by warping his son’s idea of love and making him feel abandoned and discarded. Some villains have been evil from the beginning, but Toya isn’t one of them.
@@pokerface4396 Again you're reaching. Toya took it that way but that is not what Endevor did.
Endeavor didn't push to have another child until after Toya kept training.
That was when he reached the conclusion that the only way to stop Toya regression was to give birth to the perfect child.
But again, that was a direct result of Toya bot stopping with his training. It came after that not before it.
I don't disagree that Endeavor neglected them. But as I said that was out if ignorance not mailoicous intent.
This is shown during the dinner he had with Bakugo and Deku, when it's brought up how he isolated Shoto he acknowledged how he didn't fully grasp the scale to which he was doing it.
Endeavor played a part in Toyas decline sure. But Endeavor never made him a mass murderer. Toya did that all his own. 🤷🏾
His smile and optimism: GONE
😭😭😭😭
I remember I used to feel really bad for Enji here. I can't say I do now.
Yeah Endeavor deserves this. Don’t feel bad at all for him. He’s done way too much harm in the past to deserve redemption.
Dude, even Obito was redeemed and what that fucker did was thousands times worse
Any character that wants redemption, and actually means it can be redeemed. Maybe not so easily, but eventually they will
True
And yet people simp for character who done much worse and doesn't feel guilty for it, kinda ironic doesn't it ?
Bullshit. He does deserve this, as he brought it on himself, but he also does deserve redemption because he is genuinely trying to become better and to make things better.
Idgaf about all the bitter people in here. This right here is true story telling and good character development which also add to the story.. you guy are all weird
I find it hilarious that Endeavor is hated, but you will see people stanning and loving villains who are psycho murderers and some of them are even straight sexual abusers (Griffith from Berserk). Like, people want to fuck Dabi and he is a terrorist, murderer, and psycho who involved the entire country in his conflict with Endeavor... and lots of fans love him! Endeavor, Griffith, and Dabi are all great characters but people loving and hating them as human beings depending on how their stories are delivered is hilarious.
It's all the fangirls with daddy issues. They see endeavor as more of a villain than the actual villians. They simp for dabi cause hes "hot" but hate on endeavor cause "dad was mean"
@@kevintanza6968You are damn right: Some Fans are so much self-satisfied hypocrites🙄
*Like, people want to fuck Dabi and he is a terrorist, murderer, and psycho who involved the entire country in his conflict with Endeavor... and lots of fans love him!*
The Edward Cullen Syndrom. You know, the Vampire, wh fucking sparkling in the Sunshine (Twilight). He was a creepy Stalker, but the Fans love him, because he so hot🙄
Funfact: The Novels are so horrible. It's reading like a badwriting Fanfiction.
@@estebanvelazquez353yeah that bassically sums it up , it's crazy
Endeavour is a well written character
But a horrible person
I know I shouldn't say this but godamn rei is still fine as hell despite the aging and physical/ mental abuse hows that even possible
Her quirk is ice manipulation, maybe that's why.
To fix this situation 101:
Step 1: Use eraser dude quirk or sleeping gas to make sure they can’t do anything.
Step 2: knock all the villains out after that
Step 3: make eri rewind them all back to kids
Step 4: put them in rehab until they chill
Batabing bataboom ez
Oh boy here we go-
Indeed we are
I hope the wife divorces his butt for all the trauma she had to endure because of him. She even had to be put in a mental hospital because she couldn't stand being in the same room as him. She burned her youngest child's face because she hated HIM so badly. She had to carry on the fact that she harmed her children because she hated their father to the point that even looking at a younger copy of him was enough to throw her into a fit of madness.
She must've hated herself every day because of how her hatred for her husband led her to cause physical harm to her very innocent, very young, and very beloved child.
She can accept his apology, but that doesn't mean she has to forgive him or continue being married to him.
Yup. Not just divorce but also disowning and resignation as well.
It wasn't hatred that caused Rei to burn Shouto, but rather fear. If you go back to the anime/manga panels, you can see the terror in her eyes. I think she has a lot of complicated emotions about Endeavor, but I don't think hatred is one of them. I just really hope she can get on her feet and be able to live her life without fear.
What I notice is that you lot wouldn't feel the same way if Endeavor was a girl. His wife allowed the abuse as well, as she did nothing to stop it and didn't try to reel him in. Endeaver isn't evil, but he is very flawed, and she could have pointed that out. How come you guys hate Endeavor, yet the blood draining murder girl is a fan favorite?
@@nielsdejongnot to mention all the Mass Murderer Dabi stans. I swear those people think it's fine to kill someone out of rage if you tripped on a rock once because it's a sad backstory to them.
@@nielsdejong What kind of victim blaming bullshit. Rei didn't allow shit to happen to her, what did you want her to do against a man who could easily murder her?
And Enji and that girl aren't the same. For one, one is a child while the other is a grown ass man.
While I will say this was coming since Endeavor was such a bastard to his family and trying to make amends wasn’t enough, considering how much he has changed since the second season he didn’t deserve this. I know he had it coming but still.
I agree
I wouldn't say he doesn't deserve this. This is just karma catching up to him, and more of a reason for him to try even harder at atoning for his mistakes.
@@jaimiranda8563
Oh yes he does deserve it.
The other heroes obviously don't and are just caught in the crossfire, but scr*w Endeavors public image.
Let it reflect his private image like a mirror.
@@thepax2621 we going over this again stfu with the daddy issues
@@planetearth9471 *Pfft* Why? Because you copy, paste and spam insults Keyboard - Warrior?
Endeavor’s past actions caused significant harm to his family, especially to Toya, who later became Dabi. His abusive behavior towards his family, driven by his obsession with surpassing All Might, left deep scars.
Endeavor's efforts to change and atone for his past mistakes, as pointed out by Midoriya, show that he is trying to become a better person and a true hero. The idea of giving someone a second chance is important, as it allows for growth and redemption. However, it's crucial to recognize that forgiveness is a personal and individual choice, especially for those who have been directly hurt.
Hatred indeed perpetuates a cycle of pain and suffering. Endeavor's journey towards redemption and the Todoroki family’s healing process underline that while the past cannot be undone, people can work towards a better future. Whether or not they choose to forgive Endeavor is their decision, but the possibility of change and forgiveness offers a path to healing.
Endeavor deserves forgiveness. Regardless of the things he’s done, regardless of how horrible his actions against his family were, he’s learned from his atrocities. He’s recognized the damage, and rather than running away from that damage he’s facing his failures. He’s finding the true meaning of what it means to become and wield the title of “hero”. He may have started off a monster, but he deserves the chance to display his will to change, and become a true hero.
I'm surprised that people still can't grasp Enji's arc even when it's almost explicitly stated at them. He expects atonment, but not forgiveness, because it isn't his or bystanders' decision whether he deserves the latter, which resulted in him not demanding a seat with his family. We can only expect his lesson to be sufficient reason if we assumed that all the world revolved around him and therefore it is acceptable that innocent people dying for him to learn something is just another day in the office. But the world doesn't revolve around him and trying to tell Touya's victims that Enji learnt his lesson, so it's fine would like spitting in their face. Whenever abuse happens it's victims that are put as the most important. BNHA got it right, yet somehow its fandom still can't get it?
nah
How can people hate someone like endeavor and then praise and love somebody like Thanos?
No, he's right, Endeavor really deserves forgiveness, regardless of what he's done to his family
@@sbcs2809 simple. I hate Thanos too.
Endeavor BEST Character
Rei the Strongest Wife/Mother
Enji the Reedemable Husband/Father
Can't say he didn't deserve this, endeavor was not a good parent to start with
This anime will be more complex if they focus on Todoroki Family
I fw wit endeavor mfs acting like hes not a fictional character hes made mistakes and now sees them
I love how when enji was fighting the high end nomu, his wife was praising him, then when he actually apologizes to them for everything, she berates him lmfao. But that aside, endeavor, you can tell he never meant to abuse his family and hurt them, he was only blind sighted by rage and the desire to beat all might that he unintentionally dragged his family into the ground. When he saw toya again in the newest episodes he broke down for Christ sakes. A real abuser, a man who intentionally destroys the family and abuse his loved ones, wouldn’t have done that. Endeavor may have done horrible things, but the fact that he understands what he’s done, and the fact that he’s been trying to fix it, that we’ve seen, for at least a season now, just shows that he does truly regret what he’s done. Not to mention he tried visiting his wife many times in the hospital, gave and sent her flowers too, her favorite ones to be exact, the fact that he remembered her favorite flowers after so long and after all the rage and fear, shows he did actually love his family, even though he didn’t show it. He has my infinite respect for the man he’s trying to become. He should have all of yours too
It’s not that she berates him, she gives his guilt a reality check. The whole point of the scene is that she’s accepting responsibility for how Toya turned out just as much as Enji. She failed to see how just badly her son was suffering from the neglect, and she owns up to that.
@@MooncrafterUTAU no I know. But she’s basically berating him on top of that, wether or not he deserved it, or if it’s true/needed.
The issue is he is a highly divisive character so he won’t get that(respect from some fans). However he is a great character to show the darker side of obsession and how blinding along with damaging it can be not just for the one blinded but those around them.
Yeah man, I can't respect a guy for destroying his entire family because he couldn't be Number 1. Just because his family forgave him, doesn't mean Dabi has to. He married his wife for the soul purpose of a designer quirk, neglected his first born son instead of teaching him how to control his powers, had another child, neglected them, had another child, neglected them, and then had ANOTHER child and when that child was perfect he shut down his wife, his three children, and ONLY spent any real meaningful time with one child, and that was pure training.
Lets not forget, he verbally and physically abused his wife to the point of a mental breakdown which forced her to stay in a hospital for YEARS, until she finally snapped out of it.
I'm sorry, but decades of treating people like absolute shit doesn't compare to a few tears and an I'm sorry. The fact that it took his own son exposing him for his actions for him to really get it through his thick skull that he's a piece of shit, is alarming.
Dabi deserves a family, Endeavor doesn't deserve anything end of story. When real life celebrities are found out to be serial abusers, majority of time they never get another job again, or get jailtime. Endeavor shouldn't get any respect, he should be in prison for multiple felonies.
Nah
The thing is: if Shoto and her mother, who suffered more, forgave him and give a second chance; why people watching the anime r hating Endeavor so much and not giving him a second chance???
過去は消えないからだよ、自身のコンプレックスの為に子供と奥さんに虐待とDV、よくもまぁこんな泣き言を言えるよなと思うのも無理はない
It's kind of corny that people still defend him despite everything he has done, he changed because that was the only option for him and not out of pure regret
then hating on him is corny too
just watch quietly cuz it's not like he is gonna have a rest anytime soon
It was pure regret WDF
His character kinda reminds me of dan scott. I mean both of them have differences, but I do see a few parallels as well
I still Stan dabi
In fact, the people are guilty in this situation, because the people only support the person they find sympathetic, Enji has stayed so far behind and made greed, I hate this situation, people who rise with their own efforts can't get the value they deserve.
Anime fan be like:
Someone killed 10000 person without any reason but he turned into good side
Anime fans:yes that cool yeah i love him
Someone tried to make a masterpiece to reach his goal but his family hated him
And he changed and built his family again and made them one again and tried to be a better person and want to changed and he was ready to scrafice his live to saved his son who choosed to become a villain and killed 9 persons without any reason and he saved him from burned himself and standed again to fight and when he done he goes to see what us happened to shoto and his wife and when he got tired and can't stand anymore after some minutes he staned again to fight all for one side by side his son
Anime fans:noooo he is bad ge dersved to die not fair
Enji be like: "oh no! the consequences of my own actions!"
He has had a lot of growth leading up to this, and that makes him an interesting and diverse character. And he's an amazing hero. But he's still an abuser.
So is Rei? She literally burned her sons face and left a permanent scar. Everybody glosses over this *fact* because she was also abused.
He's not everybody PROBLEMATIC favorite for nothing
Endeavor changed, Or is changing. He realizes he fucked up. Its time for the rest of the family to join because One of their family is an active psycho and Mama Todoroki needs to bring out the slipper
In a way is certainly funny how people react to Endeavor crying. The anime itself it’s a reflection of the fandom, some people stand Endeavor, some chose to point the finger and say “b*tch I’m never going to forgive you for this”.
Do you have never screw up in your time? Have you never hurt someone? Have you never did bad stuff that you regret maybe too late?
You mostly will, humans aren’t perfect. We screw things up, we hurt people, and our actions take repercussions in others life.
Forgiveness is not earned, somethings are that horrible that can be forgiven, nevertheless the ability to forgive this is what make us humans, is what makes bad people change to good people, rather than sink into the darkness.
If you still choose to not forgive someone, that’s your right, I hope you live for that standard, and I hope that when you screw up, they don’t forgive you too.
he literally abused his own family for years and gave them all scars that would last a lifetime, thats not just a simple mistake that most people do, he is not pure evil but that does not mean his family should be forced to forgive him for what he did
The problem is that "screw up" isn't the word I'd use here. Forgetting your friend's birthday? That's screwing up. Accidentally pushing someone off the stairs? That's screwing up. Scratching someone's car? That's screwing up. Repeatedly abusing helpless and vulnerable children, you were supposed to love and protect unconditionally? Pushing them to their mental limits? Turning your partner into some breeding horse and making her suffer? Ruining your son's childhood and making him emotionally stunted without friends or social connections? That's being a failure of a parent.
Endeavor simply couldn't stop fucking his own shit up, even though Toya's death was a damn good reason to stop and realize how wrong he was. This is why some people don't feel bad about him feeling bad - he made his family feel much, much worse.
thank you for saying this Max...your not wrong
"screw up" as if his "screw up" isnt abusing his family lmao
Repetitive abuse isnt a screw up.
but, its toya hurts himself too, thats why endevour stops him...i know past never dies, what endevour done in past is not right, but like midoriya says he is trying to change himself, we should also give him the second chance and its definitely up to Todoroki family whether they want to give him a chance or not. hatred is never the solution of any problem.
Whic Episode is this
Anyone know the soundtrack used for the Endeavor Hospital scene?
It annoys me when people try to defend this monster. Saying he's "realistic" and "people change" that he "deserves his family's love".
He bought a human to breed with - thats called a sex slave.
You know who else is realistic? His children. Especially Toya.
And for people who have been abused, for people like myself who relate to Toya and his siblings - no child abuser deserves redemption. Let alone forgiveness.
Besides. If Endeavor genuinely wanted to atone for his buying a sex slave and abusing and neglecting his children, then he would have gone public with his crimes and turned himself in, rather than protecting his ill gotten gains. He still only cares about that number one spot.
His cute little redemption ark is BS and honestly its easily to take it as nothing more than further psychological manipulation of his children.
If you think that he deserves forgiveness you have clearly never been in the position of his wife or his children.
Spoilers below:
Dabi deserves his justice and a redemption arch far more than Endeavor does. Its entirely Endeavor's fault Dabi has done everything that he's done; he lit this fire in his son and drove him to he the point of insanity, only to rip the rug out from under him. Its no wonder at all that Toya snapped.
Just as he was with Shoto's scar, Endeavor may not have been the gun himself but he was certainly the hand.
He made Dabi. He is just as responsible for Dabi's crimes as Dabi himself.
EXACTLY!
Dabi murdered 30 people. Those 30 people were his choices. Shoto also got abused by Endeavor and didn't turn out to be a psycho. Rei has an ice Quirk and didn't become a criminal for the abuse. Endeavor is responsible for their traumas but your actions are your own. No one cares about Hitler's childhood to justify his crimes because his actions were his own. Endeavor is an abuser and Dabi is a criminal and a murderer.
Dabi killed people out of his own accord and Rei burned her fucking child and neglected the other, both parents were absolute garbage but you'll just forgive Rei like that because of a sad backstory. Both parents turned into horrible people and both should be having tomatos thrown at them
Dabi has killed way more people then Endeavor.
Endeavor is a piece of shit but neither Enji nor Rei ever murdered anyone. Dabi made himself a piece of shit by killing 30 people unrelated to his trauma. He does not deserve his redemption.
I feel pity for all the family but him
If you feel bad for Dabi, a literal mass murderer you're an idiot
episode?
Would Thanos, the Mad Titan, ever react to this, when he finds out the mistreatment of his family? and his past?
Nope. Enji, no matter how awful he was, was at the core a man broken and embittered by the loss of his eldest son, to the point that he lost sight of the rest of the family, caring only with 'beating Allmight'. Thanos was seemingly the genocidal extremist from a young age. Enji is also now tortured by his own misdeeds, and he tries to genuinely repent for them even though he's aware (and accepting) that he'll never be forgiven for it. Thanos feels some guilt but in no way lets that stop him from genocide.
@Ares99999 ok, but what does Thanos think of Endeavor, what will the Mad Titan say about him being a bad father of the way he treated his own eldest son toy, his other son Todoroki and the rest of his Family? P.S. I was referring to Comic Thanos, not MCU Thanos.
Lady todoroki is very pretty, no wonder he pounded her like a truck
shotoooo
did anyone else laugh when he was slowly laying back down in fhe hospital bed?
to be honest i laughed through this episode alot, im just here to snark on the show basically. he reminds me of my own father, i just laugh at him most of the time.
Ik it's because u have daddy issues it's ok
@@planetearth9471 i actually do, you wont understand. but no seriously, he deserves this so much, all the bull shit he put on them kids. ohh i love it!
@@planetearth9471 and i bet ur dad went for milk btw lol
@@Aight__4 nah shit he deserves it , it's all coming down on him and it's great and I do understand the part that pisses me off is how people are LITERALLY projecting it onto a character that compared to their shit father actually acknowledges how much of pos they are and how bad he made his entire family and STRIVES to make a change(even if it's a little cause this shit just dosnt happen all at once) compared to I'm guessing your pos father would he even acknowledge the fact of how bad he hurt you. No? Then at least WATCH with an open mind with how endeavor is gonna tackle this and MAYBE realize that ppl are capable of change
@@planetearth9471 actually my dad is trying to turn it around like endevor so yeah. you dont know anything about me and my family situation, so you dont know what my dads actually trying to do so he can better bond with me, dont just assume stuff about people's lives, cause its obvious there was a reason i compared. dont try to make it all about you...cause do you have these problems yourself?? -- if you dont, then you shouldn't even be opening your mouth on a situation like this. but if you do, that just means we are seeing the world differently and our dads are just doing two different things.
Lmao Endeavor your tears is delicious
Whats shocking that he has tears let alone feelings 😒
@@marshalldavis6748 Good, let him suffer
@@marshalldavis6748how is that shocking?
I feel somewhat bad for him and his kids didn't want to put some accountability on their mother.
I understand the hate on Enji but Dabi no, never he is just a low and people loved him for that just because he was a victim
bro... you cut the best part? SHOOOOOTOOOOOOAARGHH!!
Im not defending what he did but its funny that people will turn a blind eye to murderers and killers but not this
(sigh) you know what aggravates me with situations like this? People trying to paint somebody indefinitely out to be a bad person because of the past. For one, if anyone was truly wise, mature and understanding you gots to look at both aspects of why a person may commit certain actions before judging them. Now I am not saying that what he did was just because no! Tbh endeavor has a lot to clean and clear up on his end when it comes to his family, but what I am saying is a lot of times peoples who may abuse their family or others is not necessarily out of personal gain or pure spite in some cases. Alot of time abusers were abused before by their own predecessors and past demons in this case that could be why endeavor turned out the way he was due to trying to up hold his family's name and honor. His father could have put him through the same abuse and that is all he knows when it comes to being a person, father, hero, human being and successor to his families name. People don't realize as a man society is more harder on them because due to some outdated traditional stand point men have to uphold the hierarchy and if they do or don't decides over all if they will be respected or not. From what I can see this has been endeavors whole purpose and motivation of being a hero he was trying so hard to out do all might that he forgot himself and neglected his family. Im just saying before people try to point fingers, beat up and be critical on others know the facts in full depths first. 🤷♂️
Dude really all of them but shoto kind of suck but yall r too blind by endeavor to realize it. Also at the end of the day he tried to protect toya more than any of them. She was a failure of a mother too. I dont get how yall think
Even if he changes, it still won't make me like him. Time doesn't heal wounds.
It does
What are you dumb it does
Ok
It literally does
Stfu with ya daddy issues
everybody deserves a second chance
There are 666 comments as I type this. A fitting number, given the composition of this comment section as a whole
Seriously, you'd think I'd have learned to stop trying to find useful discourse in these things
I wonder why natsu don’t try to be a hero
I’m surprised that endeavor has tears, let alone feelings 😒
Which episode
Endeavor is fictional and i can feel about him however it pleases me. 🗿
At the first glance Endeavor look like a selfish and ruthless person but now i start to understand and like the character: yeah he was a turd with his family but his inferiority complex and desire to receive the recognition from the citizens pushed him in the wrong path. He have understandable reasons but his methods wasn't right.
Seriously compare to guys like Gento Ikari from Neo Genesis evangelion, Shou Tucker, Dario Brando or Gendo Ikari, Endeavor is all but a heartless man.
R rei n endeavours still together or ?
Main character get all praise+some quirk.well side charater like all might mirio night eye endeavor all have shit plot..nerf all in one..god job horikoshi..
Not like you can do any better
All the praise?Dude,LOOK AT MIDORIYA!!He looks like final season Eren now.I won't even be surprised if he tried to off himself after he's done with AFO.
He didn't even apologize toi Dabi
Yes he did
What a shame
Evil people do some good deeds people forgive their past.
Good people do 1 mistek and people make them villain.
😂
Past never due that's a truth because you can't change them.
And you should be punished for your past actions no matter how much good you become
GOOD PEOPLE torturing a mother in front of her child and a child infront of her mother each and every leading them to insanity
Also neglecting a son as if he is a broken toy (dabi)
He doesn't deserve anything
Yet, people will see dabi violently kill someone with no remorse and say “oh my god he’s literally me”
@@akhandtripathipyz9888 Itachi killing women, children and babies yet you forgave him so be quiet.
Hey if it’s not my family, I don’t care
Endeavour doesn't deserve sht
He ruined dabi's life 😢
So because is something he did which he obviously regrets and wishes he can undo he is permanently a bad man. Well, I guess no one deserves a second chance
Dabi is a piece shit because he killed innocent people
Endeavor's still a POS but hes trying to change and thats what matters, but a phrase i like seems pretty appropriate here
"you dont get live a bad life and expect good things to happen to you in the end"
A line from a man who also did bad things and tried to change.
My feelings for endeavor depend on how he was raised because if he was treated like this I would feel some empathy for the man since that means he doesn't know how to operate properly.....but if that's not the case then I feel no empathy
@torywilliams2103 doesn't matter what his past was. He deserves forgiveness
I stil hate the mother for pouring hot water problematic parents there
Where can I watch this?
I don't think it has come out yet
Sorry, I thought this was a different video. It is out, it just don't know where to watch it. My apologies.
Try at below link:
kissanime.com.ru/Anime/my-hero-academia-season-6.91889/
We all have regrets, that’s why it’s so important to forgive others as well as ourselves, as it is written, “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.” Matthew 5:7
Heh and i am still doing Fuyumi & Rei x Deku NSFW pic. . . yay me.
His forced marriage wife is quite right
僕アカ轟かっこいい。
理由はどうあれあんなにひどいことしておいて今更
Boo hoo flame boy you brought everything onto yourself
Boo hoo Dabi killed people because Dad didn't train him
@@Temujin18S they both suck ass
Just u bad father
Endeavour is pure evil
Was*
Nope he’s isn’t he was just a prick, however now I’d say he’s trying to be a decent man
FALA MESMO REI, COSPE NA CARA DELE
HE shoudlnt get forgiven
they didn't forgive, just tolerate and agree they need to work together to stop Toya