Add Zach's simple exercises to your daily routine or offseason work! Plus, these marry perfectly with our 5KEYS series: 🔑🌪 [FREE] Unlock a Rotational Golf Swing - milolinesgolf.com/5-keys-to-unlocking-a-rotational-golf-swing/
Milo, i like your videos because you focus on heart of the swing that most of amateur miss. That’s really instructive to follow you. Chris from Paris (France)
Between the full warm up videos from the golf schools and the fitness/speed section, we do have a variety of exercises including these hinges, but we'll be looking to add and update some of those sections for the new year. Merry Christmas Mark!
Great video about fitness and flexibility. I'm having trouble with the right-side bend at impact (I'm a right-handed golfer). It seems that I cannot bend down far enough to get to impact with a slightly bent right elbow like you seem to manage (and others like Morikawa and Dustin Johnson). At slow speeds I can manage, but I can feel that my side starts to get that scrunch burning sensation from trying to bend too much. At high speeds, it is nearly impossible unless I completely disengage my torso from my hips--as opposed to keeping them all as one moving unit. I'm pretty flexible and can reach my toes without bending my knees, but the side bend is limited. Any suggestions?
For best results we would recommend seeing your swing. milolinesgolf.com. That being said, where you are side bending from matters. We prefer ribs up (T Spine), which will be a key focus in another video in this series with Zach. Depending on the player, we really don't need much. Flexion of the pelvis, knees, and chest rotation can be the primary focuses. Again, seeing your swing would prove most helpful if I haven't already.
If your hinge checks out and show a flexion based pattern in the down swing then it leads me into the direction of your swing bend needing improvement. Hinge depth decreases the total degree need for side bent which is why we like it for spine health. This may take more investigation for us to give an accurate prescription!
@@golfersfitness-zachgulley4827 Thanks for chiming in, Zach. I appreciate your advice. As I was checking out my swing on camera and in the mirror, I was looking to see if, as per Milo's suggestion, I was bending at the top of the ribs as opposed to the hips. I came across another one of Milo's videos showing the difference between the two. It turns out I do bend at the ribs, therefore, no issues there. The issue is that, as you suggest, I am not creating enough hinge depth. Sure enough, the more hinge depth I create, the easier it is for me to achieve the position Milo recommends at impact (with right trailing elbow slight bent at impact as opposed to complete straightened like I normally have it). However, since I'm only 5'8 (that's a true 5'8 with no shoes on), I feel as if when I create hinge depth, it makes me feel like I'm too low to the ground to clear the clubhead from hitting 12 inches into the ground. I seriously have to open up, way more than I'm used to, in order to strike the ball. Maybe that's one of the major concerns of your amateur golf clients. We are simply not opening up enough to get the clubhead through without fearing that we are going to strike the ground four feet behind the ball. And when I say open up, I mean it feels like I am about to hit the ball about 45-degrees left of my intended target! It is really scary to trust that the ball will come out straight at or slightly right of the target. To put it another way, it feels like a Lee Trevino swing in which you actually push the ball (push-draw) even though Lee's shoulders and hips are clearly aiming well left. Again, I can't express this enough--your shoulders and hips are aiming WELL LEFT, more than you would ever think it could be.
Sorry if I missed this answer duringthe video, but is it correct to say that you want to feel your hamstrings lengthening during the backswing and downswing? Like the same feeling you would get doing the exercise where youre laying down and raising one leg straight up?
Yeah maybe! Some people are going to feel stretching. Some may just feel pressure or activation. Once you have the ability to feel this it’ll just turn into more of a trigger feel rather than work to get there
Milo, From what I have seen getting people to hip hinge correctly in their swing s the most challenging change a player will make and the most difficult move to get in their swing and something that is not a quick fix thing that needs a lot of work. Is that what you find when teaching?
Certainly depends on the student, but frequently I see people pushing up early out of the top vs landing properly. These hinge exercises are awesome and Zach is a great resource for us!
@@MiloLinesGolf The dead lift is a hip hinge motion, what are your thoughts on developing good dead lift technique to get the hip hinge motion in? Like this ruclips.net/video/p2OPUi4xGrM/видео.html
A lot depends on the side of your body! If you’re taller with long femurs it may be something that always feels tight. There are ways around this. If you can’t do a hinge because of mobility length issues, lowering your pelvis but flexing the knees may be more in line with what you can physically do. To know for sure we need to do a screening. Hope this helps
@@golfersfitness-zachgulley4827 Thanks 4 reply tho im 63 i can do a good deep hip hinge,find your long pole drill easy! and have Elvis hips! But can only do 45 deg on ham stretch,conv myself this somehow protects my hyp mob joints! av height large core! Just saying that obv for golf, (im consist shooting low scores) Hip hinge is much more important than hammies unless playing speed golf!
I need more Information to address this more in depth and most likely need to screen you. Are you saying your hips can only flex to 90? If so that’s more than plenty to do a hinge to impact positions. I’ve taught this stuff to countless people with hip replacements and rarely see hips that don’t improve after joints are fixed. The hip is very mobile and strong and can be trained if not inhibited by joint pain Lmk how I can help further
Hi there! I like to see a lot of it happening in the end stages of the backswing, as the pelvis recenters and lands a bit left. The windup can set the stage if done properly. As far as separation, you gotta be a little careful with that as we don't want to twist. I cover this in more detail on my website, and the steps to swing like an athlete, here: swinglikeanathlete.com.
When doing the leg raise while laying on the floor my thigh cramps (bad charlie horse) which you said it may. You said this is ok but what can you do about it?
That is normal if you lack hip flexor strength near end range of motion. Continue to work that, over time it will condition your body to accept that new hip flexion position and allow the hamstrings to relax (reciprocal inhibition) gaining contractile ability of front side to allow eccentric loading of the back side with what we want so we can really unload the system in the down swing. Let me know if you have further questions
Yep totally normal as quads are creating the motion even tho hams should be stretching. If you feel more quad, keep doing it to strengthen the quads! Then it’ll start changing
You can't separate the pelvis from the torso. You can separate the hips from the torso at the hip sockets. Torso and pelvis are one unit. So separate the hips from the pelvis...
Yes the ribs, spine, and pelvis are one unit you’re right and if we were doing open chain movement we would hip rotation where the femur sits in the pelvis. But the golf swing is a closed chain mechanism which makes the pelvis, spine, and rib cage respond in an axial rotation. The pelvis is rotating at a different rate than the ribs which give the appearance that they are turning. You could argue the hips (femurs) are not rotating in some swings staying in the same orientation just like you can argue that there is relative hip and pelvic rotation occurring in others much like a gear in machinery works. So in all I agree with parts of what your saying but we are talking more about pelvic and ribs creating separation via axial spine rotation that occurs when a rotated spine returns to neutral while the hips gain in flexion. Hope this clears things up
The single greatest factor in generating necessary hip turn is to absolutely avoid getting over 30 years old. Once you master this skill you will maintain the proper rotation to hit long straight shots.
This takes TIME AND REPS. This is the main thing I see every level of player struggle with. Start slow, ramp up speeds slowly 10% at a time and when it starts to click the arms are along for the ride. At high speed we see the forces being driven more by arms with players that have a hard time with this. Feel the forces from ground up and the hips sucking everything back and down and you’ll do great 👍🏻
Add Zach's simple exercises to your daily routine or offseason work! Plus, these marry perfectly with our 5KEYS series:
🔑🌪 [FREE] Unlock a Rotational Golf Swing - milolinesgolf.com/5-keys-to-unlocking-a-rotational-golf-swing/
Just what i needed, thanks so much
Glad it helped!
Milo, i like your videos because you focus on heart of the swing that most of amateur miss. That’s really instructive to follow you. Chris from Paris (France)
The system, thanks for watching Mike!
I feel it’s the hard beat too. I’ve always seen the root of all athletic movement, any sports, starting from the pelvis. Thx for your input!
Thanks for reviewing the 3 types of exercises at the end.
You bet Jim, thanks for watching!
Very subtle concepts. Great to learn about.
Glad you liked it!
Thank you for sharing these drills, I'll look forward to more of them.
Gonna make for a great offseason and daily exercise series! More to come...
I’m happy you liked it
Yup ! Great video Gold 👍.
Thanks 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for watching!
Exercices 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻. Ou peut on trouver votre grand baton rouge ? Thanks
I believe it's called Stick Mobility. Thanks for watching!
@@MiloLinesGolf thanks 🤗🤗🤗
Is this series on the website?
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!!
Between the full warm up videos from the golf schools and the fitness/speed section, we do have a variety of exercises including these hinges, but we'll be looking to add and update some of those sections for the new year. Merry Christmas Mark!
As always great video Milo and Zach. Who makes the stretching bar used in this video and where can it be purchase(or one like that)?
Thx, Eddie
I believe it's called Stick Mobility
Merry Christmas
Same to you Randy!
Great video about fitness and flexibility. I'm having trouble with the right-side bend at impact (I'm a right-handed golfer). It seems that I cannot bend down far enough to get to impact with a slightly bent right elbow like you seem to manage (and others like Morikawa and Dustin Johnson). At slow speeds I can manage, but I can feel that my side starts to get that scrunch burning sensation from trying to bend too much. At high speeds, it is nearly impossible unless I completely disengage my torso from my hips--as opposed to keeping them all as one moving unit. I'm pretty flexible and can reach my toes without bending my knees, but the side bend is limited.
Any suggestions?
For best results we would recommend seeing your swing. milolinesgolf.com. That being said, where you are side bending from matters. We prefer ribs up (T Spine), which will be a key focus in another video in this series with Zach. Depending on the player, we really don't need much. Flexion of the pelvis, knees, and chest rotation can be the primary focuses. Again, seeing your swing would prove most helpful if I haven't already.
@@MiloLinesGolf Perfect! Looking forward to that video.
If your hinge checks out and show a flexion based pattern in the down swing then it leads me into the direction of your swing bend needing improvement. Hinge depth decreases the total degree need for side bent which is why we like it for spine health.
This may take more investigation for us to give an accurate prescription!
@@golfersfitness-zachgulley4827 Thanks for chiming in, Zach. I appreciate your advice.
As I was checking out my swing on camera and in the mirror, I was looking to see if, as per Milo's suggestion, I was bending at the top of the ribs as opposed to the hips. I came across another one of Milo's videos showing the difference between the two. It turns out I do bend at the ribs, therefore, no issues there.
The issue is that, as you suggest, I am not creating enough hinge depth. Sure enough, the more hinge depth I create, the easier it is for me to achieve the position Milo recommends at impact (with right trailing elbow slight bent at impact as opposed to complete straightened like I normally have it). However, since I'm only 5'8 (that's a true 5'8 with no shoes on), I feel as if when I create hinge depth, it makes me feel like I'm too low to the ground to clear the clubhead from hitting 12 inches into the ground. I seriously have to open up, way more than I'm used to, in order to strike the ball.
Maybe that's one of the major concerns of your amateur golf clients. We are simply not opening up enough to get the clubhead through without fearing that we are going to strike the ground four feet behind the ball. And when I say open up, I mean it feels like I am about to hit the ball about 45-degrees left of my intended target! It is really scary to trust that the ball will come out straight at or slightly right of the target. To put it another way, it feels like a Lee Trevino swing in which you actually push the ball (push-draw) even though Lee's shoulders and hips are clearly aiming well left. Again, I can't express this enough--your shoulders and hips are aiming WELL LEFT, more than you would ever think it could be.
Sorry if I missed this answer duringthe video, but is it correct to say that you want to feel your hamstrings lengthening during the backswing and downswing? Like the same feeling you would get doing the exercise where youre laying down and raising one leg straight up?
Yeah maybe! Some people are going to feel stretching. Some may just feel pressure or activation. Once you have the ability to feel this it’ll just turn into more of a trigger feel rather than work to get there
Milo, From what I have seen getting people to hip hinge correctly in their swing s the most challenging change a player will make and the most difficult move to get in their swing and something that is not a quick fix thing that needs a lot of work. Is that what you find when teaching?
Certainly depends on the student, but frequently I see people pushing up early out of the top vs landing properly. These hinge exercises are awesome and Zach is a great resource for us!
@@MiloLinesGolf The dead lift is a hip hinge motion, what are your thoughts on developing good dead lift technique to get the hip hinge motion in? Like this ruclips.net/video/p2OPUi4xGrM/видео.html
Im old but learnt to do good squats with good depth/hip hinge in lockdown but cant get rid of tight hammies!
A lot depends on the side of your body! If you’re taller with long femurs it may be something that always feels tight. There are ways around this. If you can’t do a hinge because of mobility length issues, lowering your pelvis but flexing the knees may be more in line with what you can physically do. To know for sure we need to do a screening. Hope this helps
@@golfersfitness-zachgulley4827 Thanks 4 reply
tho im 63 i can do a good deep hip hinge,find your long pole drill easy! and have Elvis hips! But can only do 45 deg on ham stretch,conv myself this somehow protects my hyp mob joints! av height large core!
Just saying that obv for golf, (im consist shooting low scores)
Hip hinge is much more important than hammies unless playing speed golf!
Milo, does this type of swing action require clubs to be flatter than standard lies?
We have some videos coming out on that soon! We typically don't like very upright clubs, but certainly depends on the individual.
What do you recommend when you have had both hips replaced and unable to bend 90 deg.
I need more Information to address this more in depth and most likely need to screen you.
Are you saying your hips can only flex to 90?
If so that’s more than plenty to do a hinge to impact positions.
I’ve taught this stuff to countless people with hip replacements and rarely see hips that don’t improve after joints are fixed. The hip is very mobile and strong and can be trained if not inhibited by joint pain
Lmk how I can help further
Where I can purchase those training poles 🤔
I believe they are called Stick Mobility
So when you start down swing it's like first hip hinge(similar to squat move) and then turn the hip separating top and bottom of the body am i right?
Hi there! I like to see a lot of it happening in the end stages of the backswing, as the pelvis recenters and lands a bit left. The windup can set the stage if done properly. As far as separation, you gotta be a little careful with that as we don't want to twist. I cover this in more detail on my website, and the steps to swing like an athlete, here: swinglikeanathlete.com.
Thank you Milo thank you Zach awesome stuff!
You're the man Ned! These exercises Zach laid out are great additions.
Thanks for watching!
To Milo's point, if you sink (flexion) into the ground it works much like the Flutes of a Yankee Screwdriver.
Drop it 👍
When doing the leg raise while laying on the floor my thigh cramps (bad charlie horse) which you said it may. You said this is ok but what can you do about it?
That is normal if you lack hip flexor strength near end range of motion. Continue to work that, over time it will condition your body to accept that new hip flexion position and allow the hamstrings to relax (reciprocal inhibition)
gaining contractile ability of front side to allow eccentric loading of the back side with what we want so we can really unload the system in the down swing. Let me know if you have further questions
What is a good stretch to do before playing?
We'll be sharing a few more in upcoming videos, plus a warm up video, but these simple hip movements are great to start with.
Depends on you and what you’re patterns are that cause decrease in performance but a generalization would be doing these hinges prior to play
When I do the leg raises I feel tightness in my quads, is that normal?
Yep totally normal as quads are creating the motion even tho hams should be stretching. If you feel more quad, keep doing it to strengthen the quads! Then it’ll start changing
Well I fail the first hip hinge when I straighten my legs out on my back. Left is 45 and my right is 55 lol
So what are the exercises?
We cover the 3 primary ones throughout the video and recap at the end.
@@MiloLinesGolf, I caught them at the end thanks!
You can't separate the pelvis from the torso. You can separate the hips from the torso at the hip sockets. Torso and pelvis are one unit. So separate the hips from the pelvis...
Yes the ribs, spine, and pelvis are one unit you’re right and if we were doing open chain movement we would hip rotation where the femur sits in the pelvis. But the golf swing is a closed chain mechanism which makes the pelvis, spine, and rib cage respond in an axial rotation. The pelvis is rotating at a different rate than the ribs which give the appearance that they are turning. You could argue the hips (femurs) are not rotating in some swings staying in the same orientation just like you can argue that there is relative hip and pelvic rotation occurring in others much like a gear in machinery works.
So in all I agree with parts of what your saying but we are talking more about pelvic and ribs creating separation via axial spine rotation that occurs when a rotated spine returns to neutral while the hips gain in flexion.
Hope this clears things up
The single greatest factor in generating necessary hip turn is to absolutely avoid getting over 30 years old. Once you master this skill you will maintain the proper rotation to hit long straight shots.
lol
Haha. Funny but not true.
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No matter how much I drill this pattern at slower speeds successfully, once I go back to full speed swings, I can't replicate. What is my issue?
There is certainly a learning curve in making the jump and how we are powering the club. Have I seen your swing Conor?
@@MiloLinesGolf no, I've just come across this video and it lines up with something I've been practicing but not quite getting it yet!
Awesome, if I can be of any help, please do reach out at milolinesgolf.com.
This takes TIME AND REPS. This is the main thing I see every level of player struggle with. Start slow, ramp up speeds slowly 10% at a time and when it starts to click the arms are along for the ride. At high speed we see the forces being driven more by arms with players that have a hard time with this. Feel the forces from ground up and the hips sucking everything back and down and you’ll do great 👍🏻
@@golfersfitness-zachgulley4827 thank you 👍