Using Windows XP for Games and Emulation

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  • Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
  • Windows XP was a widely used operating system in the 2000's. Today we're taking a look at what sorts of games are playable, the emulation of consoles and whether it's worth checking back into today.
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    0:00 - Windows XP Today
    1:28 - NT Virtual DOS Machine
    2:11 - 16-bit Software and DOS
    3:04 - 90's Edutainment
    3:40 - Big Boxes / Small Boxes
    4:03 - Tips and Tricks
    5:01 - Modern Gaming?
    5:44 - 1ST to 4TH Gen Emulation
    6:57 - 5TH Gen Emulation
    7:56 - 6TH Gen Emulation
    9:46 - Should you do this?
    Intro and outro music are existing works of Skylar Spence aka Saint Pepsi.
    You can find his work here: skylarspence.net/
    Background Music:
    Running Pleasure - OutRun 2019 OST
    Windows XP Installation Music
    Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 - Beethoven
    Highway Blues - Marc Seales
    Lovely Brain - PixelJunk Monsters OST
    E1M1 by br0f
    The Carrot Juice P2 - Rayman RR OST
    Flower Garden - Yoshi's Island DS OST
    #windows #pcgaming #windowsxp
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Комментарии • 537

  • @ElickFlash
    @ElickFlash Год назад +387

    It physically hurts me that XP is considered Retro and it's 22 years old now

    • @gruntingskunk2237
      @gruntingskunk2237 Год назад +13

      I’m 21...

    • @jacobsrandomstuff
      @jacobsrandomstuff Год назад +26

      @@gruntingskunk2237 your retro

    • @user-1billlon
      @user-1billlon Год назад +6

      Dude it’s 21

    • @shahulhameed5476
      @shahulhameed5476 Год назад +12

      XP is not retro. I classify windows into CLASSIC and Modern. CLASSIC includes Windows 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, NT 3.1x/NT 3.5x, 95, NT 4.0, NT 5.0, 98, 2000 and ME. Modern ones include Windows XP , Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10 and 11.

    • @user-1billlon
      @user-1billlon Год назад

      @@shahulhameed5476 it’s retro but 8.1 and 8 and 10 and 11 are modern even the other 8 devs. You think XP is not retro because it’s not that pixelated, and vista is retro and 7 even windows 9 exists it’s windows 8.1 with 7 theme so your dumb

  • @Isaacfess
    @Isaacfess Год назад +324

    XP was an amazing time for gaming and computers in general. Thanks for this retro dive back into the good ole' days!

    • @lol-ih1tl
      @lol-ih1tl Год назад +5

      you can use it on VMware.

    • @_speedyhops8058
      @_speedyhops8058 Год назад

      @@lol-ih1tlok?

    • @sammymcfone8281
      @sammymcfone8281 Год назад +2

      The really great thing about xp WAS that everyone loved it..
      It was still getting icon pack hack apps released even after vista died so if you put in the effort and you get a really nice AND really cheap laptop..
      Its a FANTASTIC machine for strategy games and

    • @sammymcfone8281
      @sammymcfone8281 Год назад

      Even retroarch run the xbr shader.
      Hd snes lol 😂.. never thought id see it.
      Also you can turn ur heating down too.. lol

    • @bizznick444joe7
      @bizznick444joe7 5 месяцев назад

      @@lol-ih1tlNot the same booting up an old Windows XP

  • @Itsumi456
    @Itsumi456 Год назад +164

    I remember Snes9x, Kega fusion and NullDC the most. They were my introduction to emulation as a wee lad. Absolutely loved being able to revisit games I played as a kid on my mums old PC. XP was just a great time.

    • @joesshows6793
      @joesshows6793 Год назад +1

      Yep!

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 Год назад +1

      How does a dream cast emulator even run on a 2000s era computer on mine it was just a slide show.

    • @Itsumi456
      @Itsumi456 Год назад +3

      @@belstar1128 Oh I definitely don't remember it running amazingly but at that age I was just happy to be playing SA2 without having to shell out for a GameCube I no longer had

    • @Vulpas
      @Vulpas Год назад +1

      @@belstar1128 If your computer was good enough and you optimized the emulator, then even a late 90's computer could run Dreamcast and Game Boy Advance. My '99 computer played GBA perfectly, and Dreamcast...well, it was free and running on old hardware, so it got a pass. I wasn't too picky as a kid lol.

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 Год назад +3

      @@Vulpas emulation is so weird. when i try it it is bad but when other try it it works perfectly.
      I tried to get into browser based emulation recently but its too laggy. but when other people with much weaker computers than me try to use it. it magically runs perfectly.
      i think there is some sentient ai that hates me. and tries to ruin my computing experience.

  • @lolcat
    @lolcat Год назад +74

    Windows XP on a period accurate screen just hits different. I wish I had the space for a beast XP build. And a CRT monitor. And a CRT TV.

    • @Wobble2007
      @Wobble2007 11 месяцев назад +3

      Buy yourself a cheap little 14" 600-800 TVL PVM, this will give you high enough resolution for PC games in XP and also be great for using as a CRT TV, a nice PVM is a Monitor/T.V hybrid pretty much, you can then play 240p games via emualtion or real hardware and VGA (480p) PC games on the same setup/screen, RetroArch for XP has fantastic emulation (far better than the standalone emulators presented in this vedeo) which will give you perfect emulation up to PS2/OGXB/GC/DC/etc, plus classic computers like Amiga/X68000/FM-Towns/etc, and then there is also Arcade emualtion being available.
      Also eMacs are either free or well under 50 pounds if money is tight, these have very nice 1000 TVL CRT tubes inside, and you can install XP on them just fine, they have decent graghics, the lower end models have GeForce 2 or ATi 7500 32mb cards or the higher-end ones have ATi 9200 32mb or ATi 9600 64mb GPU's, so great for classic PC games via XP and running RetroArch (which will be good for up to N64/DC/PS1/etc era systems), they also have pretty nice built in audio and speakers and a DVD drive, so you can watch classic TV shows in full frame 4:3 like Buffy or 4:3 Anime and so on, you can use the eMac as a do-it-all CRT and it wont take up much space at all, you could even strip out the old MAC components and replace them with a RaspberryPi and run RGB-Pi, either way an eMac is a sweet cheap way for someone to get themselves a nice CRT setup with a small footprint.

    • @Protoking
      @Protoking 9 месяцев назад +1

      ⁠@@Wobble2007the emac itself can’t run xp natively correct? Don’t they have Power PC CPUs. (Love those cpus esp the G4 with altivec)

    • @844box
      @844box 7 месяцев назад

      But icon of "My Computer" in XP is LCD monitor

  • @rsseguel
    @rsseguel Год назад +147

    I think, without any doubs, XP is by far, one of the best OS of all the times.

  • @hylianbran7273
    @hylianbran7273 Год назад +34

    I remember discovering so many games on a shitty Windows XP laptop. I would hide it in my room and play it all night, I loved the thing. Didn't matter how bad the battery was, or how the E key was broken. I have so many wonderful memories of the thing. I remember going to a hockey game and spending like an hour holding doors for everyone at 11 o'clock, then coming home and playing Mega Man 2 until like 4am. I had never stayed up that late! Honestly, I think the games I played on emulators and such with that thing might have been more impactful on my life than any console.

  • @MINI_91
    @MINI_91 Год назад +27

    Retroarch is available for XP as well.
    Plenty of consoles to emulate through there. I haven't tested it personally, but it might be worth a shot.

    • @magpie4043
      @magpie4043 10 месяцев назад

      And if your PC is good enough, you can eliminate lag down to the frame with a good amount of cores which is amazing. No longer need a CRT for that experience which are generally a headache these days

  • @joey199412
    @joey199412 Год назад +15

    XP came out in 2001. In my mind it was a way newer OS. Windows 98 feels ancient to me but that was only a couple years older.

  • @atarileaf
    @atarileaf Год назад +19

    Very nice. I have XP, 98, and 486 DOS machines for retro gaming. I really enjoy playing around with these older machines

  • @59.9fps
    @59.9fps Год назад +6

    If you want to use XP, better to dual boot with a Linux OS if you can. That way you can use the Linux for internet, because even with MyPal, XP is still vulnerable, and if we use it offline, most of the threats are not there. So Linux can be peace of mind. This setup has served me well for a long time; even when the OS support hadn't expired, I did browsing on Linux including downloading stuff for Windows, then access them from a common partition. LAN cable was unplugged when on Windows.
    If you go this way, I'd suggest MX Linux for its light resource consumption (around 700MB RAM by itself) and out of the box support for old hardware, while being on a stable modern base.

  • @gluttonousmaximus9048
    @gluttonousmaximus9048 Год назад +25

    My old family home's 2011-ish PC (2nd gen i5 with some low-end Nvidia card) actually did run Dolphin and PCSX2 fairly well. At the time I was a early teenager and only got into emulation of cartridge-based systems and had no idea about disk image stuff, so I had to look in the dark in order to get an appropriate virtual disc drive and get certain Saturn and PS1 emulators to work.

  • @Level1Sword
    @Level1Sword Год назад +40

    I thought SNES was going to be the limit on an XP machine. Had no idea it could go so much farther!

    • @aoeu256
      @aoeu256 11 месяцев назад +3

      zsnesw and snes9x and epsxe ran under win95.

    • @OnionChoppingNinja
      @OnionChoppingNinja 10 месяцев назад +3

      I was even able to run Project64 on my old Pentium 4 WinXP machine way back in 2008 just fine. WinXP may be old but in the grand scheme of things it's not THAT old.

  • @SkyScourgeGod
    @SkyScourgeGod Год назад +15

    That's so funny that you come out with a video for XP gaming around now. I actually just dug out my old XP rig from 2009 not too long ago and I plan on rebuilding it for XP gaming. The original motherboard I used for it is shot so I had to rebuild it from the ground up, but it's been a lot of fun researching all the components I need and getting everything together.

  • @jamesshipley9164
    @jamesshipley9164 Год назад +14

    This brings me back to always having a roms collection disk for computer class back when most people seeing you play Mario on a computer thought it was magic or expert level hacking. Started with a few NES games on a floppy, but soon moved to a CD where I could carry a ton of 8 and 16bit games with me everywhere and keep save states in my school user folder so they'd be there no matter which PC I used. I remember beating Shinobi 3 in Gens on a keyboard and that was probably my proudest moment that semester.

    • @Vulpas
      @Vulpas Год назад +2

      Reminds me of how I best Mega Man X and Mega Man 7 on keyboard. Only so many buttons could be pressed at once on mine, so it was impossible to cling to a wall, charge, and dash off the wall while still holding the charge. I ended up mainly using the peashooter and being forced to take hits lmao

  • @dropsmega-mega8126
    @dropsmega-mega8126 Год назад +7

    XP is still my favorite OS, so many good memories. I spent thousands of hours playing old pc games like Sim City and Age of Empires and emulators like ZSNES, Project64 and VBA.
    Also talking about DOS, it's kinda sad that GOG doesn't offer a dosbox-less version of games like Rayman Forever. There are a few games that would run better natively on old hardware or even on other VMs, but the games are stuck in dosbox.

  • @HitmonleeDeluxe
    @HitmonleeDeluxe Год назад +14

    An amazing Windows XP n64 experience would to be to use the Glide64 final or GlideN64 plugins for compatible emulators! Works a charm for the most part :) Even works for the ancient Nemu64

  • @xan1242
    @xan1242 Год назад +9

    5:27
    I'd like to point something out. With these kinds of projects, while yes, you can't run their release packages natively on XP, you are completely free to recompile it with XP compatibility.
    I did this with Sonic 1 and 2 RSDK and it worked flawlessly on a Pentium 3 machine.
    This does require a bit of knowledge on how to work with libraries, code, compilers, etc., it's actually not as hard as it may seem.

  • @PyroNexus22
    @PyroNexus22 Год назад +8

    When I was a kid, my first system was Windows 98, and I had a folder filled with DOS games on it. Then after I graduated to XP, I kinda stopped playing DOS games, but I kept noticing Dosbox packed on almost every computer magazine disc. I kept thinking to myself: "why does anybody need this program, when you can easily run DOS games on your Windows." Only now I'm finding out that XP couldn't.

    • @shahulhameed5476
      @shahulhameed5476 Год назад +1

      But mine can run Bugs bunny cartoon workshop through NTVDM.

    • @shihanafridhi9517
      @shihanafridhi9517 2 месяца назад +1

      ​​@@shahulhameed5476 Yeah, and Command and Conquer: Red Alert

  • @bluehairminerboy
    @bluehairminerboy Год назад +4

    Fun fact: you can actually run DOS and 16-bit applications on a 32-bit installation of Windows 10, they run using the same VM XP used. There's a project called NTVDMx64 which ports this to 64 bit editions of Windows. I use this at work to run old business applications on supported operating systems but I'm sure it'd work great for old games too.

    • @supra107
      @supra107 4 месяца назад

      Yep, there's also another project that uses Wine code to accomplish the same thing. NTVDMx64 is essentially a cracked version of what Microsoft initially wanted to implement in 64-bit Windows but ultimately dropped it.
      There are so many ways to run legacy software under Windows 10/11 that with enough determination and perseverance you'll run any old software under modern Windows. If wrappers like NTVDMx64, dgVoodoo, DXVK, DxWrapper and others won't do the job to run things natively, next up you have DOSBox, or even DOSBox-X that can run Windows 98 with Voodoo graphics, then you have VMware Player that can hypervise Windows XP with 3D graphics acceleration, and if you're really determined and you have the proper hardware, there's PCem/86Box to emulate a full Pentium machine.

  • @Funboringness
    @Funboringness Год назад +17

    I recommend a fork of NO$GBA called NO$Zoomer, and also if you want to look into it, there are retroarch forks for older machines. SSF may also give good results for saturn.

  • @Cyberbrickmaster1986
    @Cyberbrickmaster1986 Год назад +1

    I got a little chuckle when you compared that alien thing from an old Windows game with Iz the musical robot toy from the mid 2000s.

  • @the__charlyy3253
    @the__charlyy3253 Год назад +3

    There's an old steam version that runs on XP, it has the friends list disabled but you can download and play steam games, I also had no problems installing GOG games using the offline installers. I wish I could still use XP as my main OS :(

    • @gorkemgolpek6659
      @gorkemgolpek6659 Год назад

      Hello, Really? That's very good! How do we install the older version of Steam on Windows Xp? Could you please help me with the download link for the old version of steam platform?
      Is it possible to use the old version of Steam with the latest account? or do I have to create a new account on the older version of Steam? Thanks buddy :)

  • @MarshStar
    @MarshStar Год назад +1

    Can't believe you added a song from PixelJunk Monsters' OST as background music. I am very happy and did not expect that.

    • @FrameRater
      @FrameRater  Год назад +2

      The best game of all time!

  • @Edmundostudios
    @Edmundostudios Год назад +2

    The Z67 and Z77 motherboards supporting the ivy or sandy bridge CPUs were some of the last to support XP and have it setup on a dual boot with an i7 3770K which is probably one of the strongest configurations possible while being technically supported. I don’t use it online for anything, even basic web browser as it’s easy to get compromised on XP but keeping it offline to run some old games and for emulation purposes is fine. I actually had no issues with the old versions of Dolphin 4.0 on this hardware configuration. Of course not as good as current versions but playable.

  • @WhoWatchesVideos
    @WhoWatchesVideos Год назад +8

    It's crazy to see my first laptop in this video - or at least, the same chassis, since I had an NV54 with a Pentium T4400. That laptop has an incredible keyboard, despite the lack of gaps between keys. Lots of travel and a nice, solid rubber dome bump.

    • @FrameRater
      @FrameRater  Год назад +1

      It sure is a comfy design!

  • @WestleyWolf
    @WestleyWolf Год назад +2

    About Saturn, if i remember correctly SSF can run Saturn games faster than Yabause on XP but it requires an old version of daemon tools as winCDEmu doesn't play the redbook audio to most saturn games. and for PS1 there was a long forgotten emulator for PS1 called pSX V1.13 that i used to use alot on XP that ran perfectly on single core systems of the mid 2000s like the Pentium 4 for example (which i had in my old 2004 toshiba satellite laptop), XP was very fun for me when it came to gaming i used to put HOURS into GTA Vice City.

  • @stewsretroreviews
    @stewsretroreviews Год назад +3

    I've just reinstalled XP on my old PC a few weeks ago, and installed some of my old classic games from disk again, great playing those games all over again, Max Payne 2, Street Fighter 4, Medal of Honor etc 😊
    Great content dude 👌🏻

  • @AirknightTails
    @AirknightTails Год назад

    3:47 Seeing that Pre-Requosite Disc for Viva Piñata made me happy as I still own my OG Copy of Viva Piñata on PC

  • @xGMV
    @xGMV Год назад +1

    Glad I stumbled upon this. Just a few things to note, or tips really. I own a rig with a Celeron 420, 512MB of DDR2 RAM, no dedicated GPU and just 80GB for storage. For PS1, you're better off with ePSXe, even with my specs it can run some games in 2x resolutions. Another thing you missed because it's a niche inside another niche are arcade emulators, especially those based on PCs that ran XP Embedded, and for those you can either grab, say, a Sega Model 2 emulator since it's based around PS1 hardware and even supports the same plugins ePSXe does, also runs full speed for me, or try an older version of Teknoparrot.
    Also, you CAN still install Steam, but many games have been patched with 64-bit executables or now rely on something that requires at least Windows 7, sadly. One game I can confirm that works is the original Devil May Cry 3 release, but an example that no longer works, or I did something wrong, is Half-Life 2, a shame really.

  • @huleeyaxerssius7
    @huleeyaxerssius7 Год назад +1

    My primary Windows XP machine (this one running Professional, the variant most would use i'd say), is a Dell Precision M90 that i got for a pretty good price ($120AUD) a few years ago. Has the best GPU you could get with it, a Quadra FX3500M with 512MB VRAM. 2.0 GHz Core 2 Duo, a nice 1920x1200 screen, 2GB RAM & a 500GB SSD i had put into it. Has some emulators of course, with various older games, that go up to a few from the late 2000's (whenever i do some games on it, i do connect an external mouse though). For example, whenever i play oblivion, i always do it on that since it acts odd with my main system. Do like playing it on the M90 & it runs rather well on it too. Playing videos with VLC, even do some virtual machines on it just for fun with VM software that works on it still, and have Daemon Tools installed for any ISO's i'd be using with it. Have installed an old version of steam from a few years ago, a few years ago that works somewhat still (can only install games i have purchased already, buying games doesn't work) which is still something. Whenever i use the internet on it with a few different browsers (Emails, RUclips & even internet banking at times), it runs fine. But i go nowhere near that social media garbage, so that is a total non-issue for me. And contrary to what some might say the universe has not yet imploded by doing such internet based things on Windows XP, in this day & age. While nowadays, it'd be mostly just hobbyists & whatnot that would use XP, with a few real-world applications in places still, it is still a good OS to use. Always have liked it, and always will.

  • @roberto1519
    @roberto1519 Год назад +2

    The XP defined a generation, for sure, though I find it really hard to find a game that won't work on modern Windows versions with a patch, source port, emulator, etc.

  • @OGEdgyUsername
    @OGEdgyUsername Год назад +5

    I want more of this, I grew up playing on my moms PC (which had Windows XP) in the 2000s
    I didn't have internet, we couldn't afford it. So, I just had to rely on the games it already comes with and cd games that I got from a thrift store

    • @FrameRater
      @FrameRater  Год назад +6

      I might make another, was thinking of a video about Windows XP era software. There's an old animation program called Pivot that I'd love to try out again.

  • @hezekiahramirez6965
    @hezekiahramirez6965 Год назад +1

    I kept my 2008 XP Netbook for this and storing scans of comics. I'm a collector but I don't want to sort thru the boxes to find an issue of Adventures In The DC Universe or Nintendo Comics System so I keep scans from archives that have been uploaded. Beyond that it's mostly emulation and older PC games. I run freeware games on it too. There's some good freeware if you know where to get it. They're legit releases, the developers just re-issued them as freeware games. I can also use it for MS-Paint projects. It's really still quite useful. Plus it does get wifi and I can use it to get online so SD and USB aren't the only ways to load software. I can get almost all of what I need from websites that still host those files

  • @V1VISECT6
    @V1VISECT6 Год назад +2

    WinCDEmu really reminds me of the old 2003 Daemon Tools when it comes to simplicity. They jumped the gun adding all the stuff that PowerISO did better back then.

  • @bljmario6410
    @bljmario6410 Год назад +1

    Hitting up Windows XP on VMWare to play something like Shrek 2 or Rayman 2 is something I immediately do when I'm bored. Great video btw.

  • @BawesomeBurf
    @BawesomeBurf Год назад

    So happy that this popped up in my feed. Just brought up my old XP machine from storage a couple months ago so I could have some retro emulation in the living room. Unfortunately, mine's not as powerful as yours (Pentium 4, 512 mb ram, MX 420), so I'm limited on what I can run. Gonna check out that PS1 emulator, haven't had any luck with ePSXe, or PCSX. One refuses to boot, the other does not let me map the dual shock 4, and fails to register any keyboard inputs in game.

  • @otaking3582
    @otaking3582 Год назад +4

    I still use Windows 7 on my laptop. It works great aside from stuff like Dolphin and PCSX2 that no longer support it (seriously, how the hell can an emulator that runs on Android devices not work on an OS that's still supported by the majority of modern PC releases?!)

    • @HoangNguyen-ej4wb
      @HoangNguyen-ej4wb Год назад +1

      it's because those emulators switched from Qt 5 to Qt 6 which doesn't support Windows 8.1 or lower. It's not just Qt, other libraries and API too. Not to mention that windows 7 only comprised of less than 2% of their userbase.

    • @otaking3582
      @otaking3582 Год назад

      @@HoangNguyen-ej4wb I have no idea what you're talking about

    • @HoangNguyen-ej4wb
      @HoangNguyen-ej4wb Год назад

      @@otaking3582 you did ask why these emulators run on Android but not Windows 7.

    • @otaking3582
      @otaking3582 Год назад

      @@HoangNguyen-ej4wb That doesn't explain anything. If a program has low enough complexity to work on a smartphone, it should be able to work on Windows 7, which many people still use.

  • @grongy6122
    @grongy6122 Год назад +3

    I remember playing MD/SNES games on emulators on Windows XP, and everything worked mostly fine, although ZSNES refused to play some ROMs and some old Sega emulators (like Gens) had not so perfect sound emulation, like GEMS cymbal sound sounded like a really nasty off-key note on some games (Scooby-Doo Mystery is most infamous example, also Comix Zone and Taz-mania). Can't say much about N64 emulation though, I think I spent more time changing plugins and stuff trying to make it run as fast as possible and without missing textures than actually playing games lol.

  • @jimmyf2618
    @jimmyf2618 8 месяцев назад +1

    one guy online built the true ultimate windows xp machine. with a core it 4790k and a 980 GTX (modified inf file) and it runs like an absolute champ. I hope one day to build it

  • @the_zens
    @the_zens Год назад +1

    Hey, I know this is somewhat unrelated to the video, but as someone who doesn't comment very much, I really want to say how much I enjoy your videos.
    I found your channel a few years ago with an EDF review (thank you SO much for introducing me and my friend to this series, its some of the most fun we've ever had), but I can't for the love of me seem to find it anymore and I don't know if I'm misremembering, but I swear I there was an EDF review, I just can't find it anywhere on your channel, and its not the ps2 EDF one from 2 years ago, I don't know if I'm going crazy, but have you by any chance delisted it, because it has been bothering me the last few days.
    Anyways, I've grown to really enjoy your gaming and 'tech-y' videos over the years (with the dry humor here and there), and I hope you don't stop making videos anytime soon, especially the FrameRater Features, those are some of my favourites, but I'm gonna bet they take a really long time to make, so you can skimp out on those.
    Even though I sometimes forget you exist for a few months and then a video of yours gets on my recommended, and then I realize I have even more of your videos to binge, I do hope you won't stop and will get bigger, because the low amount of views must be discouraging and I know money has to be a bit of a reason, so I hope you'll continue making videos for everyone that keeps on watching, and more.
    Thanks.

    • @FrameRater
      @FrameRater  Год назад +1

      It's hard to know what kind of impact I've made on RUclips until reading comments like these, I really appreciate it thank you. I recently went through old videos and decided to put content that I no longer find interesting onto a separate channel; FrameRater Archives. I think that review aged poorly, kinda boring. Fun fact is that video was a college assignment which doubled as an upload. You'll be happy to know that an EDF 2017 Feature has been on the list since I conceived the series. Sadly the EDF videos get so few views that I need to be more comfortable with audience consistency first, I think.

  • @HerecomestheCalavera
    @HerecomestheCalavera 5 месяцев назад

    Wow! I can't believe you had Gus goes to Cybertown and Allies Playhouse! Those were two of the first CD-ROM games I ever had for PC. Back in the early 90s (1993 I think) we bought a CD drive for our computer and it came with a bunch of games for kid's. Gus and Allie were two of them and I actually played them quite a bit. For a kid in the early 90s they were fun. It also came with a CD with Eagle Eye Mysteries/Peter Pan a Story Painting Adventure and another CD with Eagle Eye London/Scooter's Magic Castle. And I played the heck out of them too! The only game out of those that still holds up imo is Eagle Eye Mysteries. I may be crazy but I could see it working as a tablet game. I think kid's would still play it, especially if they just gave it a new coat of paint to make it look more modern but kept the same gameplay.

  • @itstheazorean
    @itstheazorean Год назад

    0:26 the Windows Live Messenger sound 😢 I miss the XP era so much

  • @GMDTheOnyxGuyEizzX
    @GMDTheOnyxGuyEizzX Год назад

    7:40 Oh, you clever boi, you snuck that in and that surprisingly works well, like it's Mario's voice after inhaling a heavy gas

  • @marctorres7182
    @marctorres7182 Год назад

    I do remember "Gus goes to Cybertown" It was part of a edutainment bundle with my first sound card and cdrom drive

  • @kyanoang3l0_old
    @kyanoang3l0_old Год назад

    I've set up a Windows XP VM to install all of my childhood stuff on as a sort of interactive time capsule. Every install is one hell of a trip down memory lane. I was opting for 98 SE, but VMware lacks DX support for older Windows. Thank to the Internet Archive, I don't have to worry about my broken discs/HDDs.
    Speaking of, I have found some old software recently revived, as if we Millennials are collectively itching for the old times, lol. There's Escargot's MSN, Win Live, and Yahoo Messengers, which work as well as they used to. Someone also made a patch for OneCare just months ago (which works well on XP+, but I don't recommend replacing your AV with it).

  • @Sb129
    @Sb129 Год назад +1

    I do it all in one machine, a Dell Precision m4500, it has drivers for XP and 7 and 10 also runs fine. I've been using it almost every day since I got it 12 years ago.

  • @netsendjoe
    @netsendjoe Год назад

    I was originally designing a bootable CD or DVD that would that run based on WinPE but there were graphical driver limitations. My project, EmuPack was to encompass all legacy console systems and even some newer ones, using emulators that were publicly available. Much more of an installer script, with Start Menu additions, runtimes, icons and website links. I only got so far.

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM Год назад +4

    if you want to play late dos games up to windows 98, you might want to give 86box or pcem a try, that will emulate a pc from the time, even using the BIOSes from the time to emulate the experience. it's not super easy, but it's very accurate.

  • @zjzr08
    @zjzr08 Год назад

    Gus Goes to Cybertown - that was the name of the games I was trying to remember when I was a kid, especially the mascots, and Alphabet Asteroids game, fun edutainment click-point games.

  • @numasmatics1549
    @numasmatics1549 Год назад +1

    Chips challenge!!! Omg I remember that as a kid and forgot the name thank you so much I forgot how much I loved that game

  • @InsidiousOne
    @InsidiousOne 7 месяцев назад

    I remember checking the DVDs and CDs that came with game magazines in 00's, and they usually had TONS of shareware indie games, some of which were really good. I wonder if 90 percent of them will be forever lost in time, due to no one caring to update them to the modern systems.

  • @DavidPCM
    @DavidPCM Год назад +2

    for running 16-bit software on modern systems, I recommend giving WineVDM a try. it's my go-to method for running games like Chip's Challenge. otherwise pretty alright video here.

  • @FrankieSonic20
    @FrankieSonic20 10 месяцев назад

    I also got a Windows XP today.
    I ran the old version of Project64 emulator on it, but lucky me I managed to get the new version working.

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver Год назад +1

    Here's a fun DOS gaming tidbit...Silpheed, from GameArts (released in the US by Sierra in 1986, I believe), runs on all Windows up to Win7, 32bit, at the correct speed. The VDM picks it up flawlessly and the game's internal timing isn't synced to the system clock/cpu frequency, so it runs flawlessly. Sadly, when I went to 64-bit Win7 (many, many, *many* years ago) it necessarily broke.
    I'll miss you, Silpheed.

  • @dimas.8300
    @dimas.8300 Год назад

    I remember playing Smash Bros. on Project64 on XP on old Pentium III with 500 Mhz. It took a long time to tweak the settings and plugins until the performance was barely ok. But it was a lot of fun.

    • @zangl2955
      @zangl2955 5 месяцев назад

      I got smash 64 netplay working on my compaq when I was like 10 only to get wrecked by a yoshi main who said “jajaja” afterwards. I never played online again.

  • @fanb1536
    @fanb1536 Год назад +2

    Very interesting. Are there any games that work better specifically on XP in comparison to Windows 7 or Vista? Or, working backwards, any games that work better on XP in comparison to Win98 or 2000?

  • @lukeson8934
    @lukeson8934 Год назад +1

    thanks for this informative video!, i currently have a overkill windows xp machine with a i5-2600k and a GTX 760 2GB and 4GB of DDR3 1600mhz of ram. basically destroys any game from the 2000s and obliterates most compatible late 90s games. absolutely love it!

  • @bigbangbot-SuperSqank
    @bigbangbot-SuperSqank Год назад +2

    From what I have heard, it is still possible to get Steam running on XP but you do have to go through some hurdles. I believe the solution is to download an older version of Steak although I am not 100% certain.

    • @ChaseMC215
      @ChaseMC215 Год назад

      Not alot of games from the 2010's can run on XP as mentioned..... Then why the piss is A Hat In Time's minimum specs saying that it can run on Windows XP?
      No joke, the game's minimum specs said that XP is supported, specifically XP Service Pack 3.
      Just because it runs under the much older Unreal Engine 3, doesn't automatically mean it can run on XP. The game is very detailed, and even with 8 GB of ram for systems like Windows 7, it tanks everything to a crawl, hence why the game is mainly ideal for systems with more than 8 gigs of ram and a operating system like Windows 10.

    • @bigbangbot-SuperSqank
      @bigbangbot-SuperSqank Год назад

      Hat in Time being XP compatible is kind of crazy, especially since the game came out in 2017 and it requires a 64 bit OS. The video said that XP started losing support for games around 2010 but I think it was closer to around 2013-2015 for most games.

    • @ChaseMC215
      @ChaseMC215 Год назад

      @@bigbangbot-SuperSqank
      I feel like Hat Kid decided to make the minimum specs.

  • @JonnyWalker9888
    @JonnyWalker9888 Год назад +2

    I THINK you are able to also run the PSP emulator on XP too, because it is a super optimized emulator.

  • @thomaspleacher2735
    @thomaspleacher2735 Год назад

    3:18 In fact I have heard of Gus Goes to Cybertown. I played it on my Dad's PC when it was new. XD

  • @CutieFakeKirby
    @CutieFakeKirby Год назад

    5:14 that's interesting. I succeeded once on running minecraft 1.17 (back when it was the most recent version in early 2022)

  • @midnightstrike3625
    @midnightstrike3625 Год назад

    3:15 I actually had that game as a kid but I played it on Windows 98. I remember using Dosbox on a Windows XP back in the day to run the free downloadable version of Daggerfall before I knew it was on GOG.

  • @Xale007
    @Xale007 Год назад +1

    03:03 3D ultra Minigolf has this resolution problem too

  • @raspbean716
    @raspbean716 Год назад

    This is great, i gave an xp/dos machine which is an atom netbook. I use dosbox for dos games. There are many classics you can play. May be you can make a video about atom netbooks and gaming/emulation.

  • @freddy902
    @freddy902 Год назад +1

    If we want to keep awesome Windows 95/98 and xp games alive then we must suggest them on GOG. For those who don't already know GOG has many older games that Steam does not due to the licensing agreement that good old games have. He has a cold fact GOG is owned by Cd project red.

  • @thewholecircus
    @thewholecircus Год назад

    I've played a lot of older dos games on classicreload, which of you haven't heard of is a very solid game preservation site, worth checking out

  • @Zorklis
    @Zorklis Год назад +1

    Great throwback

  • @shadow1w2
    @shadow1w2 Год назад

    Points for Outrun2019 being played at first, a favorite game of mine.
    XP held up pretty well back then, in a way I do miss it cause it felt pretty stable for the time.
    Glad there are ways to preserve a lot of software from that era.
    Sometimes I get one working in Linux via WINE which is nice.

  • @AmodeusR
    @AmodeusR Год назад +2

    SNESX9 is an awesome emulator, as well as VBA. Gave me so many good moments and experiences with games :']

  • @CMSonYT
    @CMSonYT Год назад +1

    certain emulators like the dolphin emulator take a significant amount of single-threaded (cpu) performance so a random old laptop cpu certianly won't cut it. I'd recommend ryzen 1000 or faster to make sure all your games are smooth.

  • @ActionGamerAaron
    @ActionGamerAaron Год назад +1

    Have you considered Linux and Proton for your 90's PC gaming compatibility needs?
    Many games like those featured here now work that do not on modern Windows.

  • @KeatonGamerYT
    @KeatonGamerYT 7 месяцев назад

    How did you find those roms for the Intellivision? Because whenever I load them into the emulator it keeps on asking for it to be some sorta autoexec thing. Also I highly recommend DeSmuMe for Nintendo DS emulating as if I remember correctly it ran pretty fast on my Windows XP Machine.

  • @Thornskade
    @Thornskade Год назад +1

    If you have a modern PC, try PCem or Linux with Wine/Proton or Lutris to run old Windows games

  • @thepirategamerboy12
    @thepirategamerboy12 Год назад +1

    Honestly, my favorite configuration for 90s PC gaming is a Pentium MMX at around 166-233mhz with Windows 95. That kind of setup really is much better for that stuff than an XP machine imo. I'd look into at least a laptop of that era.

  • @taylorkeating6884
    @taylorkeating6884 Год назад

    Not only have I heard of Gus Goes to Cybertown, I remember it! I still have a disc in my inherited PC disc pile. I also have Allie's Playhouse, but don't remember it.
    I have been considering getting some sort of Legacy PC, but don't have enough interest in PC gaming at the moment to dive into that at the moment. But I think if I do go for XP, I will reference back to this video.

  • @adityapareek_
    @adityapareek_ Год назад +1

    Well i also have a windows xp laptop but i upgrade to windows 7 and now i want to go back .
    What do you think there are so many iso files available in internet but obviously we don't know that these iso files are genuine or not
    Can you suggest me that from which website i want to download windows xp iso file.

  • @vasileios6301
    @vasileios6301 10 месяцев назад

    For Sega Saturn there is also the SSF japanese emulator which older versions work perfect on XP and its very fast.
    Also they release the latest versions of MAME also for XP (modded - compiled port).

  • @jendorei
    @jendorei Год назад

    I’d try ePSXe for PS1, and SSF for Saturn. There is also a build of RetroArch for Windows XP, but I haven’t tried it personally.

  • @georgesb3388
    @georgesb3388 2 месяца назад

    You can play a lot of these games on modern Linux if you use a 32-bit wineprefix. It is a bit more complicated to set up but I have managed to get a whole host of 90's/2000's era games running on my modern machine. You can set up a wineprefix to be specifically dedicated to compatibility with XP 32-bit and most games will run without issue, though your mileage may vary. A virtual machine may be a better option but in my experience I've actually found Wine to be less of a hassle to set up.

  • @jandjp9
    @jandjp9 Год назад +1

    I just installed Windows XP home edition on my old laptop and have been using for games:-)

  • @Aeduo
    @Aeduo Год назад +1

    Wine can be surprisingly decent at some older 16 bit software on a modern and 64 bit system. I think it just uses some kind of emulation but the syscall interface passes through to the host OS so it's a bit nicer than having to run an emulator, and no concerns about legality. I know there's stuff like winevdm but I don't follow those projects so i dunno how up to date or maintained they are.

  • @francopereyra6659
    @francopereyra6659 7 месяцев назад

    Red Moon desert feels like the wallpaper you would find in old PC that were used in desert suburbs (kind of like the place where Breaking bad was filmed)

  • @RareSun
    @RareSun Год назад

    I'd love to see you try to run consoles after XP like the Nintendo Switch or Wii U on XP but i imagine that wouldn't run well

  • @mishal2k2
    @mishal2k2 Год назад +1

    what was the racing games on game cube and ps2 can anyone tell me the names please

  • @zk0rned
    @zk0rned Год назад +1

    There is 64 bit versions of Windows XP and last I checked I had good luck with them with 64 bit programs and there is working browsers for XP if you want to check them out

  • @NunofYerbizness
    @NunofYerbizness Год назад

    My go-tos for emulation on XP were JNES, SNES9x, Fusion, Project64 v1.6, and VBA (mainly because this was before I figured out how to run non-disc-based emulators). All ran with almost no slowdowns, and if my dad didn't get rid of his XP drive in 2019, I probably wouldn't be as hooked to RUclips and Tumblr as I am now. To give a personal recommendation, Conker's Bad Fur Day runs great on Project64 v1.6 (even if I've played the October Debug prototype more than the retail release; The major ups I give the proto is a slightly shorter intro, albeit still unskippable, and an "ALL GOOD CHEATS" cheat that skips having to enter all 15~ cheats to unlock all chapters and multiplayer characters + slow katana kills to boot)

    • @FrameRater
      @FrameRater  Год назад

      Jnes kept giving mine a blue screen for some reason 😃

    • @NunofYerbizness
      @NunofYerbizness Год назад

      JNES, from memory, is a bit finicky with some ROMs, and I only really tried FCEux on Windows 7… On that note I do prefer FCEux over JNES, since it's able to run certain games that JNES can't, like Action 52.

  • @MilesPrower9209
    @MilesPrower9209 Год назад

    Legit thought this was an MJD video until I started watching it and saw your intro

  • @loganconley63
    @loganconley63 Год назад

    great video. really like your content

  • @ChaseMC215
    @ChaseMC215 Год назад

    The sound from MSN Messenger makes sense here.
    Also, I really want a computer with Windows XP Media Center Edition.

  • @dusk-dude7772
    @dusk-dude7772 Год назад +1

    I remember trying to play RE2 on a N64 emulator in the 2006/7 on windows XP. Got the game running but no of the objects had any coalition meaning at the start of the game Leon could walk over the cars to avoid the zombies 😆

  • @waterheart95
    @waterheart95 Год назад +1

    Retroarch works pretty good on windows xp.
    Best psx emulation for xp is epsxe or psx.
    I know SSF older versions work well for saturn emulation on windows xp. It just needs a system with a core duo or core 2 duo to run fullspeed. Athlon series cpus at 3ghz works also.

  • @snaremori
    @snaremori Год назад +1

    Fortunately we got all kinds of ports of DOOM 1993. But when it comes to a lot of this other stuff maybe an old OS like this is worth getting into. Great video. Anyway

  • @ShoalFox
    @ShoalFox Год назад

    I recently built an XP gaming machine with an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ and a GT 710 which has been working very well for me.

  • @diablow1411
    @diablow1411 2 месяца назад

    I've got a Windows XP virtual machine on VBox, but how did you get the 3D graphics to work in it?

  • @waterbears9874
    @waterbears9874 Год назад

    when i try to run snes9x 1.60 it gives me an error with something about display settings and says it cant play audio becuas ei dont have the most recent version of directx9 installed

  • @voteDC
    @voteDC Год назад +3

    For PS1 games you could try the Connectix Virtual Game Station. While not strictly compatible with XP it can be made to run by dropping the .exe onto the CVGSrun.exe file. You'll need a virtual CD drive to play the games but the emulator still runs fairly well to this day.

    • @nunyabusiness896
      @nunyabusiness896 Год назад

      Had that for Mac back in the day. Considering it let you play PSX games while they were still alive and kicking on store shelves was nuts. It's like if you could get a PS5 emulator on Steam for PC and play it on a medium-high spec PC. Compatibility was surprisingly good and very few games had significant bugs/issues.

    • @jendorei
      @jendorei Год назад

      @@nunyabusiness896 Well, you can get a Switch emulator :v

    • @nunyabusiness896
      @nunyabusiness896 Год назад

      @@jendorei Nintendo hasn't had current-gen graphics since the Gamecube. A Switch is barely above mobile games in graphics. PS1 was still a contender when Virtual Game Station came out.

  • @jefferyleaver2847
    @jefferyleaver2847 9 месяцев назад

    Now you can run an operating system in the cloud even down to sound cards etc

  • @lillywho
    @lillywho Год назад +2

    If you want to try this on an even beefier system for the shits and giggles, try the 64 bit version. I had it installed on my main rig at one point on a SATA SSD, and boy did it zoom around. The boot screen barely even had time to show. (Although it also dropped 16 bit support as well I think)

    • @FrameRater
      @FrameRater  Год назад +2

      I've heard the 64-bit version of Windows XP is unstable, is that true?

    • @lillywho
      @lillywho Год назад +2

      @@FrameRater Not in my experience. For reference, my specs are this:
      Intel Core i7 3770k
      16GB DDR3-1600
      GTX 970 (using an edited INF file for the 950 release of the last available driver; the driver is compatible with the entire generation, but the INF file was never officially written to include the 970)
      I used it mainly for playing old point and click adventures like you did, and I never had any issues as far as I remember. I got rid of it after a while when I got bored, but the OS itself never let me down.

  • @freesaxon6835
    @freesaxon6835 Месяц назад

    So what would you recommend for compatibility for the 2000 to 2010 era games xp 32 bit or 64 bit ?

  • @giserson2
    @giserson2 Год назад

    It's been possible to get steam working on windows XP with some hackery, however it's unable to connect to the internet, so the only way to install games is to install the games on another PC (or Windows partition), then move them over to the XP machine along with a file used by the steam library to recognize the game as installed.