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As a Boise State fan I'd love the Grizzlies and Bobcats to join but I cannot see them leaving the FCS. I've always felt like Boise State-Montana would be a fun rivalry.
@ I just feel like NDSU and SDSU should make the jump with the cats and grizzlies, all are equally talented teams NDSU and SDSU are arguably more talented than them, but if NDSU and SDSU UND and USD would have to jump as well since they are in state rivals and are comparable teams not as good normally but they can still create a fun game to watch
I don’t think Anchorage can add football or join a major non hockey specific conference, the city can’t even plow the streets after major snowfall. Playing in Hawaii is hard enough because it is so far away, I don’t think many teams would want to come here in November when winter is established.
Yeah mountain west teams already complain about having to come play in Laramie in the winter so not sure Alaska would be a solid football addition lol.
This will literally never happen. School like Boise, San Diego State, Fresno, and Colorado State left the MW because they were tired of sharing a conference with a bunch of schools who dont give a shit about atheltics and dont invest in their programs or facilities.
@@sandtoy11510 Yes, in large part due to the aforementioned. It is going to be very interesting to see what kind of media deal the MWC is going to secure for 2026 with the departures. I think the MWC is going to be in for a very rude awakening when they see what they are being offered now. My guess is that it will be on par with the Sunbelt.
That’s what us Griz fans down in Montana were thinking. I don’t think Wyoming has a true heated rivalry with anyone correct me if I’m wrong on that but Montana and Montana state have extremely heated rivalries with all their rivals and Montana and Montana state being in a conference with Wyoming would create an instant rivalry and that would be so fun for both schools. Hope we join a conference with you guys and make this rivalry a thing go Griz
Yeah we actually have a pretty heated rivalry tradition. We have several trophy rivalry games. Hawaii- Paniolo Trophy Utah State- Battle For Bridget’s Rifle Colorado State- Border War (Bronze Boot) And then we also have a good strong rivalry with Air Force. We also have our old WAC rivalry with BYU which would be stronger if we played them more often. So we do have great rivalries but two of our three big rivalries are gonna leave the conference soon and I’m not sure if they’ll still schedule the games. So Montana and Montana state would be awesome to get in the MWC.
@@jude1245 I didn’t know that. That’s pretty sick. Imagine a Montana state vs Wyoming rivalry. They could call it the battle of Yellowstone or something. And then idk what a Montana vs Wyoming rivalry would be called but it would be one of the best in college football
Yeah Yellowstone Showdown would be absolutely fire. And then Rumble in The Rockies or something for Wyoming V Montana. But those rivalries would be absolutely awesome! We’re all similar programs and a lot of shared culture which to me always makes the best rivalries.
Keep an eye on the "California conference". A conference with just California schools. Future California Conference: Stanford, CAL, UCLA, UC Davis, USC, Fresno St, San Diego St, San Jose St, Sac St, and Cal Poly.
I’m a Honolulu resident. But even I can see how absurd it would be to have Hawaii & Alaska in the same conference. The travel costs. Those schools just don’t bring in enough revenue to make it worthwhile for the other members.
You said Montana state has made a national championship game more recently than Montana has but that’s not true. Montana State made it in 2022 but the Montana Grizzlies made it last year in 2024
Very interesting. Being a life long University Of Washignton Husky fan - I never expected they wouldn't be a PAC - Conference team. I'm staying open minded about the Huskies being in the B1G now. Any chance of the PAC conference surviving would be wonderful.
Correction….. those schools didn’t try to go to the Pac 12, Texas teased the Pac 12 because they wanted some attention. The rest of us just got pulled into the conversation.
Now your thinking. The mountain west will be a minor but a pac 20 would be a force over time to compete with the other big boy conferences. Would make western football a thing
Somebody has not been paying attention. The reason that BSU, FSU, USU, SDSU, & CSU joined the new Pacific Division is because the MW had too many non-competitive teams. The media contracts they were getting were awful. Joining WSU &OSU gives them the opportunity to be in an elite conference. As much as I like to root for Montana State and Idaho they are not at the same level.
For the record, Alaska Anchorage is a historically horrible hockey school, haven’t made the tournament since 1992. They have only won 10+ games maybe a couple times in the last 20 years (each season is around 30-35 games). Real hockey schools are University of Denver, University of North Dakota, Boston College, Boston U, Quinnipiac, Minnesota. All the Alaska schools that have hockey are historically terrible. I know it’s not football related but just stating facts
@@johndavis9321 a lot of the best players go elsewhere. It's like Rutgers, it should be a football powerhouse but a lot of NJ's best players go to Penn State, Ohio State, and other stronger schools instead. UAA often has mostly canadians
The new Pac-12 has a long, hard road to ever get back to "power conference" status. Right now every other conference is being left in the dust by the SEC & Big10.
I love your channel Scott and I respect your hustle, but this video just feels like a chance to just run an ad. It makes no sense for the PAC12 to take any of these other schools outside of a couple. The whole point is to take the bigger brands from the MW which they already did, and have less schools taking a slice out of the tv revenue they bring in.
lets be honest, the pac can just wait till the ACC collapses when FSU and Clemson goes to the SEC. Then id say they can probably take west virginia and pitt then poach memphis and tulane from the american. So the new hypothetical Pac can look like: Oregon State Washington State Boise State Utah State San Diego State Colorado State Fresno State Gonzaga (basketball only) West Virginia Pitt Memphis Tulane overall not a bad conference, not enough to be a power 5 but have respectable teams
Yes, this would be insane. The big schools and brands would never get into a revenue share with most of these lesser universities. This is business, not Girl Scout camp.
Why not UTSA? That school is about to explode. They have a great stadium (the Alamodome). And eventually UTRGV which is in the process of adding football and will have a great stadium. You could have a great Texas branch with UTEP, UTSA and UTRGV.
8:15 Montana literally made the national Championship last year btw, so they made the natty more recently then Montana State I do agree I think Montana State is better right now, but Montana made the FCS Natty more recently
Nah, this is a mediocre Group of 5 Conference at best. Just merge the MWC (or just the best of it) & Wash. St & Oreg. St. Try to get back Cal & Stanford.
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@@ericveneto1593lmao Scott is a scumbag
I appreciate you actually take Montana, Montana State, and Idaho into consideration
I feel like if you add the Montana schools you have to add ND AND SD schools as well all 6 are equally skilled
As a Boise State fan I'd love the Grizzlies and Bobcats to join but I cannot see them leaving the FCS. I've always felt like Boise State-Montana would be a fun rivalry.
@ I just feel like NDSU and SDSU should make the jump with the cats and grizzlies, all are equally talented teams NDSU and SDSU are arguably more talented than them, but if NDSU and SDSU UND and USD would have to jump as well since they are in state rivals and are comparable teams not as good normally but they can still create a fun game to watch
@@phdgamingftwontwitch3485 PLEASE tell me this is a joke right?
@@kdincali4nia what do you mean?
I don’t think Anchorage can add football or join a major non hockey specific conference, the city can’t even plow the streets after major snowfall. Playing in Hawaii is hard enough because it is so far away, I don’t think many teams would want to come here in November when winter is established.
Yeah mountain west teams already complain about having to come play in Laramie in the winter so not sure Alaska would be a solid football addition lol.
The PAC 16 hinged on the Longhorn Network which is no longer in service as of June 30, 2024.
coulda shoulda woulda
This will literally never happen. School like Boise, San Diego State, Fresno, and Colorado State left the MW because they were tired of sharing a conference with a bunch of schools who dont give a shit about atheltics and dont invest in their programs or facilities.
@jacobcg5489 they left the Mountain Dew conference because the current TV deal only pays each team $3.5M.
@@sandtoy11510 Yes, in large part due to the aforementioned. It is going to be very interesting to see what kind of media deal the MWC is going to secure for 2026 with the departures. I think the MWC is going to be in for a very rude awakening when they see what they are being offered now. My guess is that it will be on par with the Sunbelt.
As a Montana State fan, I'd love this just so we could be considered a big time football program 😂
Same as a griz fan and we would all be rivals with Wyoming. Also ftc
Fun fact: Longhorn Network only existed because the Big 12 as a whole refused a conference network
I think you gave him this video idea
Regardless of what happens I think it would be so fun to have the Montana schools in the mountain west. Montana VS. Wyoming Rivalry would be solid.
That’s what us Griz fans down in Montana were thinking. I don’t think Wyoming has a true heated rivalry with anyone correct me if I’m wrong on that but Montana and Montana state have extremely heated rivalries with all their rivals and Montana and Montana state being in a conference with Wyoming would create an instant rivalry and that would be so fun for both schools. Hope we join a conference with you guys and make this rivalry a thing go Griz
@@Fissey_GamingColorado State is a big rival of Wyoming
Yeah we actually have a pretty heated rivalry tradition. We have several trophy rivalry games.
Hawaii- Paniolo Trophy
Utah State- Battle For Bridget’s Rifle
Colorado State- Border War (Bronze Boot)
And then we also have a good strong rivalry with Air Force. We also have our old WAC rivalry with BYU which would be stronger if we played them more often. So we do have great rivalries but two of our three big rivalries are gonna leave the conference soon and I’m not sure if they’ll still schedule the games. So Montana and Montana state would be awesome to get in the MWC.
@@jude1245 I didn’t know that. That’s pretty sick. Imagine a Montana state vs Wyoming rivalry. They could call it the battle of Yellowstone or something. And then idk what a Montana vs Wyoming rivalry would be called but it would be one of the best in college football
Yeah Yellowstone Showdown would be absolutely fire. And then Rumble in The Rockies or something for Wyoming V Montana. But those rivalries would be absolutely awesome! We’re all similar programs and a lot of shared culture which to me always makes the best rivalries.
Great Idea 👍🏾 Talent that sit out 1st n 2nd yrs could start immediately at these programs
Fast fact:
Montana was one of the founders of the PAC including Idaho...
Your picture was wrong that was not New Mexico.
an 8 team MWC would have more money than a 20 team PAC conference... bigger is not always better.
No way - you can't look at a lump sum like exit fees as a steady source of income.
Keep an eye on the "California conference". A conference with just California schools.
Future California Conference: Stanford, CAL, UCLA, UC Davis, USC, Fresno St, San Diego St, San Jose St, Sac St, and Cal Poly.
I’m a Honolulu resident. But even I can see how absurd it would be to have Hawaii & Alaska in the same conference. The travel costs. Those schools just don’t bring in enough revenue to make it worthwhile for the other members.
that would be ultradisco ! It could get called the Western Athletic Conference.
What topic should I cover next?
How about the Pac-12 media network that put every game on the air (which I loved) but cut into their potential media rights deals.
Wow what a powerhouse conference. I bet the sec is bervous
You said Montana state has made a national championship game more recently than Montana has but that’s not true. Montana State made it in 2022 but the Montana Grizzlies made it last year in 2024
3 teams in the Spokane media market?
Portland St is more reliable than Hawaii due to the travel 😅
Ya but, you have some crazy people that burn shit down.
Very interesting. Being a life long University Of Washignton Husky fan - I never expected they wouldn't be a PAC - Conference team. I'm staying open minded about the Huskies being in the B1G now. Any chance of the PAC conference surviving would be wonderful.
as a cougar fan and attendee, i respect your opinion. also screw oregon 🟩🟨👎
Why is no one going after NDSU and SDSU?
Both are in the middle of nowhere
Correction….. those schools didn’t try to go to the Pac 12, Texas teased the Pac 12 because they wanted some attention. The rest of us just got pulled into the conversation.
Now your thinking. The mountain west will be a minor but a pac 20 would be a force over time to compete with the other big boy conferences. Would make western football a thing
Adding 18 G5's to two "left out" Power 5 schools, does not a "Power" conference make.
There' no official definition of what a "power conference" even is...
Idk why they don’t do this and call it the PAC-West 🤦🏾♂️ should’ve done that from the beginning
Somebody has not been paying attention. The reason that BSU, FSU, USU, SDSU, & CSU joined the new Pacific Division is because the MW had too many non-competitive teams. The media contracts they were getting were awful. Joining WSU &OSU gives them the opportunity to be in an elite conference. As much as I like to root for Montana State and Idaho they are not at the same level.
For the record, Alaska Anchorage is a historically horrible hockey school, haven’t made the tournament since 1992. They have only won 10+ games maybe a couple times in the last 20 years (each season is around 30-35 games). Real hockey schools are University of Denver, University of North Dakota, Boston College, Boston U, Quinnipiac, Minnesota. All the Alaska schools that have hockey are historically terrible. I know it’s not football related but just stating facts
Good info you'd think a state wit the level of extreme cold and snow like alaska would be able to produce better hockey teams/players
@@johndavis9321 a lot of the best players go elsewhere. It's like Rutgers, it should be a football powerhouse but a lot of NJ's best players go to Penn State, Ohio State, and other stronger schools instead. UAA often has mostly canadians
Alaska-Anchorage? They would have a hard time fielding a credible football program in D2, let alone the PAC-whatever.
Dude the griz were literally in the natty last year
"Killing it's status as a Power Conference forever"? Ummm... might want to fact check that, the PAC-12 is coming back.
The new Pac-12 has a long, hard road to ever get back to "power conference" status. Right now every other conference is being left in the dust by the SEC & Big10.
Not to its previous status, but yes. It’s coming back
“Join the minors” is crazy lmao
I love your channel Scott and I respect your hustle, but this video just feels like a chance to just run an ad. It makes no sense for the PAC12 to take any of these other schools outside of a couple. The whole point is to take the bigger brands from the MW which they already did, and have less schools taking a slice out of the tv revenue they bring in.
lets be honest, the pac can just wait till the ACC collapses when FSU and Clemson goes to the SEC. Then id say they can probably take west virginia and pitt then poach memphis and tulane from the american. So the new hypothetical Pac can look like:
Oregon State
Washington State
Boise State
Utah State
San Diego State
Colorado State
Fresno State
Gonzaga (basketball only)
West Virginia
Pitt
Memphis
Tulane
overall not a bad conference, not enough to be a power 5 but have respectable teams
Yes, this would be insane. The big schools and brands would never get into a revenue share with most of these lesser universities. This is business, not Girl Scout camp.
Good video
Why not UTSA? That school is about to explode. They have a great stadium (the Alamodome). And eventually UTRGV which is in the process of adding football and will have a great stadium. You could have a great Texas branch with UTEP, UTSA and UTRGV.
8:15 Montana literally made the national Championship last year btw, so they made the natty more recently then Montana State
I do agree I think Montana State is better right now, but Montana made the FCS Natty more recently
So what? What’s your point? Does that mean they belong ahead of MT State?
Broke is what it would look like. Way too many of those 20 teams have next to zero media value at this point.
Agreed, there is a reason why the MWC is losing 5 programs.
I like it.
I think EWU should go to pac12 to for pac21.
Took me 2 seconds to almost spit up. FCS schools??
He’ll NO!!!! 10 team max.
Poor Boise State being stuck in a garbage conference.
PAC 20 would be LEGEND wait for it DARY
Go UTEP!
Still a group of 5, bottom tier conference. Not in the power 2-3.
Nah, this is a mediocre Group of 5 Conference at best. Just merge the MWC (or just the best of it) & Wash. St & Oreg. St. Try to get back Cal & Stanford.
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