Too much break (typical for beginners), glider went negative on the right. He stalled the wing, the wing shooted to the front, he got scared, pulled more brake, glider stalled again. Correct response: Hands up when the glider reaches the front position. You have to give the system (glider + pilot) some speed to be able to fly! Nothing would have happend...
I was watching him on his twisted Wing, trying whatever he wanted to try instead of deploying the reserve. If your wing is as twisted as his was - just throw the reserve ASAP
He should definitely have taken his legs out of the leg-stretcher and under his seat. You should never use it in thermal situations like these. I think Wolfgang Pettay is right that the pilot used too much breaks. The breaks were pulled down very far. So this surely caused the problem. The extended legs supported the twisting. Reserve was a good idea, but the pilot should definitely have taken an upright position then and taken his feet out of the leg stretcher for landing. He didn't, so he landed mostly on the protector and his back. I hope he is alright. At least it seems that he could get help over his radio set.
Turn harder in turbulence - inflates wing more firmly. Release brakes if you are going to twist or the wing will lock in an unrecoverable stall - there is nothing that can be done if you twist with pulled brakes.
Get a SIV ! It would train you to better react and understand the state of the wing. Decision about the reserve was good and not delayed , thumb up for that !
Actually, he threw the reserve late. He should have thrown it immediately after getting the twist, which was at least half a minute earlier. If he did that, he would have a lot of time to cancel his main canopy and his descend speed would have been lower, making the landing not as rough.
Good example of how not to fly in a thermal and what happens when you poorly react to a deflation. Also the speed system is too loose and improperly set up but doubt that this pilot uses the bar much anyway.
Somehow it looks like he did not brake while falling out of the thermal - for me it's not easy to see here. Anyway then he still used that thing to keep the legs straight - in a bad situation I'd always try to get in a straight sitting position to minimize the risk of twisting. Then he got the right riser behind his back and when he managed to get back he started twisting. So in tourbulances get in neutral, sitting position (who uses leg-strechers anyway) and keep flying active. When flying into thermals - less brakes, when falling out of thermals - a little more brake input. Fly out of the thermals and take a thermal-lesson when you are an unexperienced pilot like this one. When you get bad twists like this guy, just throw the reserve before it's too late. If you are an experienced pilot and/or used to the heavy G-powers, that can/will emerge when the glider starts to spin, you can still try to ... (look at Tom Powers comment above). You can even control/fly the glider with your back risers if the brakes are blocked. When somehow possible, I would get the brakes to flyback position befor they block (for this you need to be very fit with fullstall-stuff) When you use a speed bar - release it (don't use in thermals anyway). You can control the speed of your body rotation by streching (less rotation-speed) or moving in (more rotation speed) your legs, but it's pretty advanced and you won't be able to react this fast when you are not used to twists. No guarantee that my tips are correct, anyway this behaviour saved my ass two or three times. There's lots of pages where you can find good answers to that question.
looks like it wouldn't let you unwind back out once the risers were wrapped. The only way for you to rotate is maybe reaching for the spaced risers just above the knot and then torqueing with a twist out. good call on the reserve either way.
There are quick out carabiners that allow you to do just that. They are mandatory if you decide to use a steerable rescue. Make it 400g heavier. Or there actually is a skydiving reserve, but is weighs like 5kg, is quite expensive, and you need an additional reserve when using is. So it only really makes sense for acro
Vast majority of the time the tangled wing is not an issue for a reserve toss. Skydiving and paragliding may look similar to the untrained but are totally different.
That is debatable. lol. depends oh how tall it is! But still Murphy and his law is always there to put thorny wing damaging or ankle breaking things in the way!
Should've been off the speed bar as soon as it got jumpy. Bank angles too tight for those speeds. Reserve deployed very late in the game. But you lived to tell the tale, so all good 🙂
Everything done wrong and yet survived. Safe hobby, it seems to me 👍🏻
Could you explain what exactly was done wrong?
Let's be honest, your glider is a class too hight for you.
Too much break (typical for beginners), glider went negative on the right. He stalled the wing, the wing shooted to the front, he got scared, pulled more brake, glider stalled again.
Correct response: Hands up when the glider reaches the front position. You have to give the system (glider + pilot) some speed to be able to fly!
Nothing would have happend...
Typical panic situation. Take time to ask you the right questions and act the right way.
I was watching him on his twisted Wing, trying whatever he wanted to try instead of deploying the reserve. If your wing is as twisted as his was - just throw the reserve ASAP
throw away that damn leg stretcher. in scetchy situations you want to make your self compact like a ball to prevent twists.
He should definitely have taken his legs out of the leg-stretcher and under his seat. You should never use it in thermal situations like these. I think Wolfgang Pettay is right that the pilot used too much breaks. The breaks were pulled down very far. So this surely caused the problem. The extended legs supported the twisting. Reserve was a good idea, but the pilot should definitely have taken an upright position then and taken his feet out of the leg stretcher for landing. He didn't, so he landed mostly on the protector and his back. I hope he is alright. At least it seems that he could get help over his radio set.
Thank you for sharing. Glad you made it back in one piece. Were you injured?
Turn harder in turbulence - inflates wing more firmly. Release brakes if you are going to twist or the wing will lock in an unrecoverable stall - there is nothing that can be done if you twist with pulled brakes.
Get a SIV ! It would train you to better react and understand the state of the wing. Decision about the reserve was good and not delayed , thumb up for that !
Actually, he threw the reserve late. He should have thrown it immediately after getting the twist, which was at least half a minute earlier. If he did that, he would have a lot of time to cancel his main canopy and his descend speed would have been lower, making the landing not as rough.
Very late reserve in my opinion.
No, there was plenty of time to fix that, until he over manipulated and made things worse, still plenty of time.
Good example of how not to fly in a thermal and what happens when you poorly react to a deflation. Also the speed system is too loose and improperly set up but doubt that this pilot uses the bar much anyway.
What reserve were you using? Very fast fall rate!
WOW i hope noboby of you have his EVER in life. Have a great day/fly ;)
0:41 OMG )))
Beginner thermaling. It's in Argentina, maybe Cordoba or San Luis. I soppose it's in Niña Paula, Cordoba.
Glad you made it down ok. How did you get down from the mountainside? Did you break any bones?
Ok. But next time you have to try to stay in the air and glide around then land later on.
What actually happened here? Was it an unexpected stong thermal?
spun the wing. Too much inner brake while the weight-shift was outwards.
What caused this and what actions should the pilot take?
Somehow it looks like he did not brake while falling out of the thermal - for me it's not easy to see here. Anyway then he still used that thing to keep the legs straight - in a bad situation I'd always try to get in a straight sitting position to minimize the risk of twisting. Then he got the right riser behind his back and when he managed to get back he started twisting.
So in tourbulances get in neutral, sitting position (who uses leg-strechers anyway) and keep flying active. When flying into thermals - less brakes, when falling out of thermals - a little more brake input.
Fly out of the thermals and take a thermal-lesson when you are an unexperienced pilot like this one.
When you get bad twists like this guy, just throw the reserve before it's too late. If you are an experienced pilot and/or used to the heavy G-powers, that can/will emerge when the glider starts to spin, you can still try to ... (look at Tom Powers comment above). You can even control/fly the glider with your back risers if the brakes are blocked. When somehow possible, I would get the brakes to flyback position befor they block (for this you need to be very fit with fullstall-stuff) When you use a speed bar - release it (don't use in thermals anyway).
You can control the speed of your body rotation by streching (less rotation-speed) or moving in (more rotation speed) your legs, but it's pretty advanced and you won't be able to react this fast when you are not used to twists.
No guarantee that my tips are correct, anyway this behaviour saved my ass two or three times. There's lots of pages where you can find good answers to that question.
Beginer on thermal.
This glider is not for you bro! Also you brake to much in a thermal. And your decision to deploy reserve came to late.
looks like it wouldn't let you unwind back out once the risers were wrapped. The only way for you to rotate is maybe reaching for the spaced risers just above the knot and then torqueing with a twist out. good call on the reserve either way.
As a student skydiver, I find it terrifying that you can't just cut that fouled shit away. Nice save!!
There are quick out carabiners that allow you to do just that. They are mandatory if you decide to use a steerable rescue. Make it 400g heavier. Or there actually is a skydiving reserve, but is weighs like 5kg, is quite expensive, and you need an additional reserve when using is. So it only really makes sense for acro
Vast majority of the time the tangled wing is not an issue for a reserve toss. Skydiving and paragliding may look similar to the untrained but are totally different.
Looks like you span the glider
Lets be honest, pg's can't take any negative loads 😜
think about Finsterwalder quick outs to cut the glider off and a stearable rescue , like diamond cross.
Dude, seriously ...
Surpilotage
I dont know..I've done some inland flying..dont like it. Nothing beats shore soaring
Why is it there is always a rock, thorny bush or tree when the poo hits the fan??
Because of no Rogallo.
actually a tree/bush is preffered when landing with reserve...
That is debatable. lol. depends oh how tall it is!
But still Murphy and his law is always there to put thorny wing damaging or ankle breaking things in the way!
А где запаска Почему не бросил запаску
I like how I knew a speedbar was involved before I even clicked.
There is no speedbar involved...
Should've been off the speed bar as soon as it got jumpy. Bank angles too tight for those speeds. Reserve deployed very late in the game. But you lived to tell the tale, so all good 🙂
Von diesen Bettlaken-Fliegern halte ich mich fern ...
Speedi ayagına yapıştırdınmı basmışsın sonuna kadar bırakmıyorsun
Olá galera dos casa sou eu a brigado planxty ele do que está bem versus então obrigar pra
Задушил параплан надо было просто дать ему лететь
Inflatable wing failure!
pack it then go again 😃
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Desastre de pilotaje...
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Stay safe kids, do hang gliding and you will never collapse or go skydiving, you will always recover from your stalled canopy.
Ah yes, French...
Spanish :v
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