AL's are pretty darn good for the $$. If I didn't already buy and almost completely build two surrons, this would be a contender. I've spent a ton of money building Surrons...but in the end, amazing bikes. All I have left is to sell a kidney for a controller and battery for my UB and I'll be all done. LOL.
Thanks for this. Been waiting a long time for a review of the EX800. It's such an easy fix to get the bars right I don't know people would make such a big deal about that one. I am shocked that you only needed power level 1 and even then turned down. That turns me off a little as I was thinking a trail rider could use more that power but it might just have too much to use. I also noticed that you were surging a lot when trying to get going from a stop in the technical stuff like something needed adjustment there. How did the EXE880 do in comparison ? Great to compare things to the Ultrabee but I would also like to hear how it compares to its bigger brothers. So what was the ride quality and suspension like compared to the stock EXE 880 as well as the EXE 800 your friends did a first ride on ? .I am wondering which of these bikes might suit me best so am looking forward to more info. Thanks for 24 minutes today.
As a first ride, this was the shakedown run to see how it would perform out of the box. We’ve since adjusted the bars and power delivery in the app and it’s so much better already. No effort, just instant fixes. We’ll post follow-up videos to show how well this bike shines in technical terrain.
@@ChargedCycleWorks Awesome you guys know how to review bikes and provide needed information. Just try not to wait 2 months for the next one as we need more ASAP.
@@ChargedCycleWorks It's been a couple months. Any ETA on when follow-up ride and review will be? With stock suspension tuned, handlebar risers/bars, power adjusted, etc. so we get a better comparison to a stock Ultra (with 21/18 and risers/bars)? Also, is there an ETA on when you'll get the TECH suspension and test so we know of that is a good option vs going aftermarket on suspension? Thanks.
Great video! once again. I also just watched your new video on the new Sirrus suspension for the Ultra Bee. Do you know if that suspension will bolt onto this bike as easy as it does the Ultra Bee? Thanks
Could the suspension and handling deficit be also due to the slightly shorter wheelbase. That's the one spec that turns me off the nost about this bike.
you got me with the range ....my eride needs a bigger battery .....chi battery sys make a eride pro battery now i was the first to buy one and i msg them and they said no way , no battery ...now after 10,00 bikes sold they changed their tune
Another great video! ⚡ I actually saw one in Ukraine a few weeks ago, couldn't believe there was one here. From a distance, I thought it was an electric trials bike. Looks well-built up close.
Phenomenal video and audio and content. Love your stuff guys. What actioncam is being used here? The sense of speed is very nice and still not bothersome or fatiguing to watch.
We appreciate that! We are using the GoPro Hero 12, utilizing cinema settings to show the same motion blur the human eye would see. Frame rate 24 Shutter speed 48 ISO 100 And ND filters to compensate for the lighting
@@ChargedCycleWorks very creative, 24 fps was such a surprise for me? Thanks for the info, definetely gonna try out something like this. Only thing seems to suffer just tiny bit is image stabilization, I guess the processor cannot keep the pace with 24fps do you recon?
Definitely difficult for the camera to stabilize at that frame rate, not a lot of room for error with it. If you want your image to be smoother a higher frame rate with a shutter speed of double the frame rate will achieve good motion blur with better stabilization
Thanks for sharing those gopro setting, i hate how my gorpo alwys shows low speed or smaller jumps than the real thing. I use now a 360 fusion. Will see if i can come close to your settings. Grate video, have a varg, but if i had to chose, for 1.3h enduro races, i would have to go withe the artic, and invest on the comfort bar, suspension and maybe rear brake. Its crazy that the map one is more than enough.
@@ChargedCycleWorks did you ever test these ultra light weight bikes there’s one of the few videos I made in English ruclips.net/video/SiECYIRVxzw/видео.htmlsi=JNgsGlhRdbnVHW2-
How is the battery so much larger which I assume adds weight but the overall weight of the bike is almost 20 pounds less than UB are the materials much higher quality where ?? Where is the weight savings coming from? I’m curious.
I have both bikes, the Ultra Bee and just got the EX800 2 weeks ago. Build quality is much better on the Ultra bee.. I already installed risers, and had to get a longer chain to fix the trails tire rubbing the mud flap.. Need to put it on a scale to confirm weight tho..
@@btallelectric Yes keep us informed. I just didn't get excited by my U Bee test ride and really didn't like that clacking drive train noise. Hope to get your detailed feedback soon. So where are you located ?
@Charged Cycle Works It's been a couple months. Any ETA on when follow-up ride will be? With stock suspension tuned, handlebar risers/bars, so we get a better comparison to a stock Ultra (with 21/18 and risers/bars)? Also, is there an ETA on when you'll get the TECH suspension and test so we know of that is a good option vs going aftermarket on suspension? Thanks.
How is the shock absorber performance of the ex800? It seems not as good as the ultra bee. I don’t know if the upgraded tech shock absorbers will perform better.
They require gear oil changes so you know! Distributor wasn’t sure when I asked. There exists a manual for the xt800 and it’s almost identical to the point you can see the drain plug. Can’t find the full hole so idk if I’m supposed to fill thru the drain cause I’m not seeing obvious places. Also check the panels on the side for pinching. The plastics on mine were tight enough and placed it it would have ruined the harness and parts as you know lol. Manufacturer. Also NO Juan brakes. Their another company. Braketech owns motul so there’s that. My rear is a bit soft the front bitessss but getting to lower speeds it’s a bit clunky so for now it is what it is. Forks will hit the frame. Again no manual but if I did it so can you! Also if your 5’7 ish their taller in the video so remember you’ll make it look big if your doing street riding. Also @chargedcycle let’s get some supermoto wheels for the ex800 with purple ups and fork clamps to match! Just saying. A deep purple would look good 👍
I start with the oil changes cause you’ll have people down the line complaining of preventable issues. I get serve anxiety about purchases as big as this so researching everything possible !
Yes! I'm psyched for this bike. Been waiting to see what people think of the suspension before I pull the trigger. Was this with the base suspension for the Technics or whatever the heck they call the $1000 upgraded version?
How is the battery so much larger which I assume adds weight but the overall weight of the bike is almost 20 pounds less than UB are the materials much higher quality ?? Where is the weight savings coming from? I’m curious.
Mostly the frame and subframe. Suspension is a little on the small/light side, so we’ll try upgraded suspension next. We expected some swingarm flex from them attempting to make it too light, but it’s surprisingly robust and strong.
Can you confirm which AL bike you ran in this video? You keep calling it the EX800, and refer to stats and price for the EX800, but the fender and other parts of that bike suggest that it is actually the EXT700.
@@dylanbrown8411 That's incorrect - the trials bikes are the EAT models according tot he arctic leopard website. The fender on the bike in the video also shows EXT, not EX.
AL's naming conventions have been frustrating me too! This is the EX800, even though it says EXT on the side panel. The true "ext" model is the tubular chromoly frame, and conventional fork model. They need to just update their graphics I guess...
I just receiced my ex800. It is a realy fun bike, however the forks leave litte to be desired. I would like to start with some compatible softer springs before I replace the forks. Does anyone have any links? Can I get a link for the Tech suspension forks as well. Any help would be appreciated.
@@ChargedCycleWorks Any closer to receiving and testing the TECH Shocks? Looking to make a decision on my next eDirtbike and having decent suspension from the factory is very attractive. I don't mind paying for it. What I dislike is buying a bike and having to shelve a lot of parts and immediately replace with aftermarket upgrades (this is what has kept me off a Surron Ultra even though I love the bike. Would need to replace stock wheels/tires, battery and suspension on the Ultra and that puts the Ultra at $13,000+. The AL EX800 already comes with 21/18 and a large enough battery to get the range I want, but sounds like the stock suspension isn't going to cut it. Really anxious to hear if the TECH shocks are quality. If so, I'll happily pay the $1,500 upgrade since aftermarket suspension upgrade for the Ultra is over $3,000. I wish Surron would offer factory options like 21/18, larger battery and quality suspension. Getting those options from the factory would be way cheaper than aftermarket since one isn't paying for parts you don't want (19" wheels, small battery, and mediocre suspension). Surron could likely offer a higher optioned Ultra for around $10,000 with 21/18, 5.5kWh battery or larger and quality suspension. If so, I'd have already bought one. EX800 is closest to offering what I want from the factory with no waste of paying for parts that will get shelved. So really anxious for your TECH suspension review on the EX800. Do you have a timeline on when you'll receive and review? Thanks.
That's a strange amount of range for your Ultra bee...My UB is the same wheel/tire setup except with stock rear sprocket and I can do my local 17 mile loop going from 100% down to only 65% battery. I've done mountain loops just shy of 30 miles with over 30% left on my battery? Seems like range estimates are soley based on rider type.
Absoutely, Range is very rider dependent. Brett is a professional rider who does not take it easy anywhere he rides. Moose inserts also make a major difference on range.
@@ChargedCycleWorks 30 mile loop and using only 56% battery is impressive. Would give you over 53 miles range if it kept climbing at the same rate the rest of the way so for more up and down you might get over 60. Impressive indeed. If the suspension and power is already getting dialed in I might want one after all. Still an expensive bike for Chinese.
16+ months in the market give the Ultra Bee an advantage but we are already working on support for this bike as well. One thing that should’ve been mentioned in this video is we aren’t exactly comparing stock-to-stock. Bottom line, if we upgrade suspension (or tune it like we do our UB’s) and raise the handlebars, this bike will be a great alternative with more range and power on tap.
@@kolopier Little aftermarket things like a SXS skid plate, steering stabilizer, warp 9 sprockets aren't available for the Arctic I'm assuming. Availability of used parts as well. I can get a spare Ultra Bee battery for $1500 quite easily.
@@Tazdeviloo7 I just dont care about that. you will never have a bike that is 82kg with 5.5kwh battery and 21/18 wheels with an ultra bee. When you start upgrading ultra bee it just goes about 100kg ( and 13.500 usd ). Thats a big difference man
Our 2nd ride was WAY better and the suspension is now more supple. The suspension just needed a little breaking in. We’ll do a follow up video before we upgrade to the Tech suspension.
@@tomynobs8944 I'm not finding info on the tech suspension. For $1500 extra they need to provide details explaining the details. It needs to be pretty darn good for that sort of money. Once you add that the price is getting dangerously close to a Stark Varg.
That's a lot of money for a bike yet again coming to the market without checking all the boxes, especially on ergonomics and below average suspension. Not only are the Chinese bikes sub par and quality but they seem to continue to set them up for a 120lb 5' rider?!?! Ultimately a win for you guys and aftermarket parts but another seemingly sub par bike. Who cares about range when the overall bike is meh. You pay $9500 to be forced to sit on your ride? No pressure for the gents at Dust but I can't wait until a real bike comes to market next year for a seemingly honest and reasonable price point. At least you know they will put in the effort up front so you get a bike ready to ride out of the box. Good job on the testing and videos guys. Your helping to take this market to the next level.
Everybody knows these bikes will need some aftermarket but they are getting better just witness the range increase for instance which is a huge step in the right direction. I might get one of the Artics until my Dust is ready as startups are notoriously late and there is no guarantee they won't need tweaking either. Just kind of exciting to see the progression in e moto and watch when traditional companies will get involved.
@@kolopierit’s being tested with different batteries currently. Don’t rule them out yet. They still have 6 months of testing before they release the final production battery and motor.
All the reviews I've seen or read about so far have chosen the 800 over the ultra. Build quality, suspension, power ect. Now im more confused than before...
AL's are pretty darn good for the $$. If I didn't already buy and almost completely build two surrons, this would be a contender. I've spent a ton of money building Surrons...but in the end, amazing bikes. All I have left is to sell a kidney for a controller and battery for my UB and I'll be all done. LOL.
Look at the Altis Sigma 👀
@@jello3671 not the same, altis is way smaller than these ones
58 miles range? That’s killer! Said nobody ever….😂
This ⬆️ guy
They need to make a Sur Ron 2.0 and have this styling for the body of it.
Yes thank you very much Brett has me convinced that the Utra Bee is the emoto to buy I’m saving
I love those tires on the artic leopard what a amazing emoto
Looking forward to the next video.
Please do a follow up video on this bike with upgrades. Also how does this compare with the Electric Motion X?
Please make a comparison in between exe880 and ex800 🙏
Recognized that Rocky Kent’s trail section haha
Thanks for this. Been waiting a long time for a review of the EX800. It's such an easy fix to get the bars right I don't know people would make such a big deal about that one. I am shocked that you only needed power level 1 and even then turned down. That turns me off a little as I was thinking a trail rider could use more that power but it might just have too much to use. I also noticed that you were surging a lot when trying to get going from a stop in the technical stuff like something needed adjustment there. How did the EXE880 do in comparison ?
Great to compare things to the Ultrabee but I would also like to hear how it compares to its bigger brothers. So what was the ride quality and suspension like compared to the stock EXE 880 as well as the EXE 800 your friends did a first ride on ? .I am wondering which of these bikes might suit me best so am looking forward to more info. Thanks for 24 minutes today.
As a first ride, this was the shakedown run to see how it would perform out of the box. We’ve since adjusted the bars and power delivery in the app and it’s so much better already. No effort, just instant fixes. We’ll post follow-up videos to show how well this bike shines in technical terrain.
@@ChargedCycleWorks Awesome you guys know how to review bikes and provide needed information. Just try not to wait 2 months for the next one as we need more ASAP.
@@ChargedCycleWorks It's been a couple months. Any ETA on when follow-up ride and review will be? With stock suspension tuned, handlebar risers/bars, power adjusted, etc. so we get a better comparison to a stock Ultra (with 21/18 and risers/bars)? Also, is there an ETA on when you'll get the TECH suspension and test so we know of that is a good option vs going aftermarket on suspension? Thanks.
Absolutely loved this video btw ❤
Love the trail. What's the location?
Great video! once again. I also just watched your new video on the new Sirrus suspension for the Ultra Bee. Do you know if that suspension will bolt onto this bike as easy as it does the Ultra Bee? Thanks
Great video and definitely love you guys trails..
Could the suspension and handling deficit be also due to the slightly shorter wheelbase. That's the one spec that turns me off the nost about this bike.
I’m going to put those trails tires on my Ultra Bee super gummy
you got me with the range ....my eride needs a bigger battery .....chi battery sys make a eride pro battery now
i was the first to buy one and i msg them and they said no way , no battery ...now after 10,00 bikes sold they changed their tune
Another great video! ⚡
I actually saw one in Ukraine a few weeks ago, couldn't believe there was one here. From a distance, I thought it was an electric trials bike. Looks well-built up close.
We would describe it as a hybrid trials/trail bike for sure. Incredible at slow speeds and technical terrain.
Really well done review, thanks. Did the arctic leopard have KKE suspension?
Correct, KKE Front and Rear Suspension
How about that rear brake you mentioned being weak ? And the rear tire rubbing on something ?
Phenomenal video and audio and content. Love your stuff guys. What actioncam is being used here? The sense of speed is very nice and still not bothersome or fatiguing to watch.
We appreciate that! We are using the GoPro Hero 12, utilizing cinema settings to show the same motion blur the human eye would see.
Frame rate 24
Shutter speed 48
ISO 100
And ND filters to compensate for the lighting
@@ChargedCycleWorks very creative, 24 fps was such a surprise for me? Thanks for the info, definetely gonna try out something like this. Only thing seems to suffer just tiny bit is image stabilization, I guess the processor cannot keep the pace with 24fps do you recon?
Definitely difficult for the camera to stabilize at that frame rate, not a lot of room for error with it. If you want your image to be smoother a higher frame rate with a shutter speed of double the frame rate will achieve good motion blur with better stabilization
Thanks for sharing those gopro setting, i hate how my gorpo alwys shows low speed or smaller jumps than the real thing. I use now a 360 fusion. Will see if i can come close to your settings.
Grate video, have a varg, but if i had to chose, for 1.3h enduro races, i would have to go withe the artic, and invest on the comfort bar, suspension and maybe rear brake.
Its crazy that the map one is more than enough.
@@ChargedCycleWorks did you ever test these ultra light weight bikes there’s one of the few videos I made in English ruclips.net/video/SiECYIRVxzw/видео.htmlsi=JNgsGlhRdbnVHW2-
How is the battery so much larger which I assume adds weight but the overall weight of the bike is almost 20 pounds less than UB
are the materials much higher quality where ??
Where is the weight savings coming from? I’m curious.
There is no 20 lb difference between the two. They are rated pretty close like 7 lbs actually.
I have both bikes, the Ultra Bee and just got the EX800 2 weeks ago. Build quality is much better on the Ultra bee.. I already installed risers, and had to get a longer chain to fix the trails tire rubbing the mud flap.. Need to put it on a scale to confirm weight tho..
@@btallelectric thanks for the reply 😎
Keep us posted, great to hear from someone with both bikes!
@@btallelectric Yes keep us informed. I just didn't get excited by my U Bee test ride and really didn't like that clacking drive train noise. Hope to get your detailed feedback soon. So where are you located ?
@@btallelectric Hey any more info from riding your ex800 yet ? We would love to hear your experiences and comparisons teach alot. Thanks
@Charged Cycle Works
It's been a couple months. Any ETA on when follow-up ride will be? With stock suspension tuned, handlebar risers/bars, so we get a better comparison to a stock Ultra (with 21/18 and risers/bars)? Also, is there an ETA on when you'll get the TECH suspension and test so we know of that is a good option vs going aftermarket on suspension? Thanks.
Look how small the rear rotor is on the AL compared to the UB. Is the ultra bee rear rotor stock?
How is the shock absorber performance of the ex800? It seems not as good as the ultra bee. I don’t know if the upgraded tech shock absorbers will perform better.
They require gear oil changes so you know! Distributor wasn’t sure when I asked. There exists a manual for the xt800 and it’s almost identical to the point you can see the drain plug. Can’t find the full hole so idk if I’m supposed to fill thru the drain cause I’m not seeing obvious places. Also check the panels on the side for pinching. The plastics on mine were tight enough and placed it it would have ruined the harness and parts as you know lol. Manufacturer. Also NO Juan brakes. Their another company. Braketech owns motul so there’s that. My rear is a bit soft the front bitessss but getting to lower speeds it’s a bit clunky so for now it is what it is. Forks will hit the frame. Again no manual but if I did it so can you! Also if your 5’7 ish their taller in the video so remember you’ll make it look big if your doing street riding. Also @chargedcycle let’s get some supermoto wheels for the ex800 with purple ups and fork clamps to match! Just saying. A deep purple would look good 👍
I start with the oil changes cause you’ll have people down the line complaining of preventable issues. I get serve anxiety about purchases as big as this so researching everything possible !
What us the michelin tire and size on it?
Apparently they sell it in canada with maxxis tires.
Yes! I'm psyched for this bike. Been waiting to see what people think of the suspension before I pull the trigger. Was this with the base suspension for the Technics or whatever the heck they call the $1000 upgraded version?
This was the base suspension! Like all suspension out of the box, it can be tuned and made better. We’ll be trying the Tech suspension next!
If you have any doubt/desire at all you should opt for the more expensive suspension 😜
Artic leopard offers TECH Suspension for this model EXT800 I requested and am waiting for this beauty to arrive ! Great video guys keep it up.
@@ChargedCycleWorks when they say “tech suspension upgrade” is that front and rear?? Is tech high quality like KYB etc??
@@tomynobs8944What’s tech suspension? Do they have any details on it
How is the battery so much larger which I assume adds weight but the overall weight of the bike is almost 20 pounds less than UB
are the materials much higher quality ??
Where is the weight savings coming from? I’m curious.
Mostly the frame and subframe. Suspension is a little on the small/light side, so we’ll try upgraded suspension next. We expected some swingarm flex from them attempting to make it too light, but it’s surprisingly robust and strong.
There is a titanium frame option that makes it even lighter !
@@tomynobs8944 Believe that is only for the ext model not this one. Very confusing names AL.
J juan brakes?
EX800 !!!!!!!!!!!!
What does app look like where to download app
Can you confirm which AL bike you ran in this video? You keep calling it the EX800, and refer to stats and price for the EX800, but the fender and other parts of that bike suggest that it is actually the EXT700.
It’s the snow leopard ex800. The ext doesn’t have a seat it’s the trials version. There is a 700 and 800 version of each
@@dylanbrown8411 That's incorrect - the trials bikes are the EAT models according tot he arctic leopard website.
The fender on the bike in the video also shows EXT, not EX.
However, the EX series on the AL website matches the look of the bike in the video, complete with the EXT fender, so I guess it is the EX bike.
This is absolutely the EX800
AL's naming conventions have been frustrating me too! This is the EX800, even though it says EXT on the side panel. The true "ext" model is the tubular chromoly frame, and conventional fork model. They need to just update their graphics I guess...
I just receiced my ex800. It is a realy fun bike, however the forks leave litte to be desired. I would like to start with some compatible softer springs before I replace the forks. Does anyone have any links? Can I get a link for the Tech suspension forks as well. Any help would be appreciated.
How is the kickstand? Do you guys have the Tech shocks they show for an upgrade?
Kickstand is small but it works. Luckily it doesn’t flop around when riding.
We are getting the Tech suspension and testing it in the next video.
@@ChargedCycleWorks Any closer to receiving and testing the TECH Shocks? Looking to make a decision on my next eDirtbike and having decent suspension from the factory is very attractive. I don't mind paying for it. What I dislike is buying a bike and having to shelve a lot of parts and immediately replace with aftermarket upgrades (this is what has kept me off a Surron Ultra even though I love the bike. Would need to replace stock wheels/tires, battery and suspension on the Ultra and that puts the Ultra at $13,000+. The AL EX800 already comes with 21/18 and a large enough battery to get the range I want, but sounds like the stock suspension isn't going to cut it. Really anxious to hear if the TECH shocks are quality. If so, I'll happily pay the $1,500 upgrade since aftermarket suspension upgrade for the Ultra is over $3,000.
I wish Surron would offer factory options like 21/18, larger battery and quality suspension. Getting those options from the factory would be way cheaper than aftermarket since one isn't paying for parts you don't want (19" wheels, small battery, and mediocre suspension). Surron could likely offer a higher optioned Ultra for around $10,000 with 21/18, 5.5kWh battery or larger and quality suspension. If so, I'd have already bought one. EX800 is closest to offering what I want from the factory with no waste of paying for parts that will get shelved. So really anxious for your TECH suspension review on the EX800. Do you have a timeline on when you'll receive and review? Thanks.
Why is there a different chain tensioner and a different front caliper in the photos, but not in the video?
Many of the pics from the manufacturer were pre-production. Now that we have the production bike, we’ll start updating all our website images.
OH A WHITE ONE! I totally want! I've only ever seen the black and red bikes for E-XE 880. I was thinking if I wanted to get one I'd like it in white.
It looks great in person as well!
@@ChargedCycleWorks Do you know if the 880 will be coming in white?
I believe it will only be red and black for the 880
The tires look like trials style tires
Is the suspension moto or e mtb?
It's motorcycle suspension and brakes like the Surron Ultra Bee; not mountain bike suspension like the Surron LBX.
That's a strange amount of range for your Ultra bee...My UB is the same wheel/tire setup except with stock rear sprocket and I can do my local 17 mile loop going from 100% down to only 65% battery. I've done mountain loops just shy of 30 miles with over 30% left on my battery? Seems like range estimates are soley based on rider type.
Absoutely, Range is very rider dependent. Brett is a professional rider who does not take it easy anywhere he rides. Moose inserts also make a major difference on range.
Also - what's the elevation gain on your loop?
@@sfallierclimbed 6,000ft elevation
@@ChargedCycleWorks Yup yup! 😄 I want to know what the elevation gain for @Andrewlvna 's loop is though, for purposes of comparison.
@@ChargedCycleWorks 30 mile loop and using only 56% battery is impressive. Would give you over 53 miles range if it kept climbing at the same rate the rest of the way so for more up and down you might get over 60. Impressive indeed. If the suspension and power is already getting dialed in I might want one after all. Still an expensive bike for Chinese.
Ultra Bee aftermarket support for me makes it a better bike. Many suspension service options and upgrades. Easy to get parts quickly, etc..
That’s why Surron is on top for now
Nah 82kg 34hp and 74 75ah, come on man...
16+ months in the market give the Ultra Bee an advantage but we are already working on support for this bike as well.
One thing that should’ve been mentioned in this video is we aren’t exactly comparing stock-to-stock.
Bottom line, if we upgrade suspension (or tune it like we do our UB’s) and raise the handlebars, this bike will be a great alternative with more range and power on tap.
@@kolopier Little aftermarket things like a SXS skid plate, steering stabilizer, warp 9 sprockets aren't available for the Arctic I'm assuming. Availability of used parts as well. I can get a spare Ultra Bee battery for $1500 quite easily.
@@Tazdeviloo7 I just dont care about that. you will never have a bike that is 82kg with 5.5kwh battery and 21/18 wheels with an ultra bee. When you start upgrading ultra bee it just goes about 100kg ( and 13.500 usd ). Thats a big difference man
Interesting bike but too much money to have to deal with terrible suspension. Few people are interested in dealing with dealing in a used fork.
Our 2nd ride was WAY better and the suspension is now more supple. The suspension just needed a little breaking in. We’ll do a follow up video before we upgrade to the Tech suspension.
You can add the TECH suspension to this bike and is incredible !
@@tomynobs8944 I'm not finding info on the tech suspension. For $1500 extra they need to provide details explaining the details. It needs to be pretty darn good for that sort of money. Once you add that the price is getting dangerously close to a Stark Varg.
Awasome bike! very ugly. but aweasome.!
Good video but this is a lizard not better then a ultra
That's a lot of money for a bike yet again coming to the market without checking all the boxes, especially on ergonomics and below average suspension. Not only are the Chinese bikes sub par and quality but they seem to continue to set them up for a 120lb 5' rider?!?!
Ultimately a win for you guys and aftermarket parts but another seemingly sub par bike. Who cares about range when the overall bike is meh. You pay $9500 to be forced to sit on your ride?
No pressure for the gents at Dust but I can't wait until a real bike comes to market next year for a seemingly honest and reasonable price point. At least you know they will put in the effort up front so you get a bike ready to ride out of the box.
Good job on the testing and videos guys. Your helping to take this market to the next level.
Everybody knows these bikes will need some aftermarket but they are getting better just witness the range increase for instance which is a huge step in the right direction. I might get one of the Artics until my Dust is ready as startups are notoriously late and there is no guarantee they won't need tweaking either. Just kind of exciting to see the progression in e moto and watch when traditional companies will get involved.
Dust will have shitty range! Battery is extreme short.
@@kolopier They are already changing battery size and cell type shooting for 40 m range. Hope it's true
@@jimji2774 and how much range one of these has? 60 miles?
@@kolopierit’s being tested with different batteries currently. Don’t rule them out yet. They still have 6 months of testing before they release the final production battery and motor.
IT SAYS EX-T 800 RIGHT ON THE BIKE, THIS IS NOT THE EX-800 !
They got the graphics wrong. It is the EX800
All the reviews I've seen or read about so far have chosen the 800 over the ultra. Build quality, suspension, power ect. Now im more confused than before...
Where can i buy one in oregon?
AL website lists current dealer network small but growing check it out.