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I have 6500 miles on my GH Hybrid Max. I am averaging 26.5 mpg. The on board computer has been anywhere from right on, to off by 3.5 mpg, so I always do hand calculations. I love the car.
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thanks for the honest review. This and the Lexus TX500h are my top choices to replace my 17 Highlander. Have never been happy with my 17 and I think the Hybrid Max GH or TX500h is the way to go. Glad to see the 28.33 mpg on your test drive!
If u dont mind the trade off of ride quality, go for the GH, cuz it uses 87, TX uses 91, which defeat the purpose of saving gas. But i like better ride, so i ordered the TX, will pick up tmr morning!
It is always best to use the two click method when filling. Especially if you are checking MPG. When filling the tank, let it auto click off, then wait 30 seconds to let everything settle in the tank. Then, manually fill a second time with the lever fully on until it clicks off again. I believe this is a pretty sound method because in my experience, after waiting 30 seconds, sometimes the auto off will shut off almost immediately, and other times, it will add a considerable amount of fuel. Make sure you do this every time you fill the tank to ensure you are getting the most accurate MPG on the vehicle.
If one uses the exact same pump at the same station this may be a valid point. Problem with your theory is every auto shut off valve varies to when it actually engages.
You gotta do the tfl method. Fill till click wait 30 seconds and one top off click.. air bubbles can throw the numbers off…. Needless to say it would not make that much of a difference so very impressive results
Love these reviews on vehicles hardly anybody can get. They make about 1 hybrid or every 10 gas and everyone wants them. Have fun with your year plus waits. Got me a gas xle.
I have the Canadian Hybrid limited awd and I'm getting around 7.2l/100km on highways and as low as 5.7l/100km on city/back roads. It's really good if you know how to drive a Toyota hybrid, pulse and glide technique. I just hit 4000km this week. If you dont need to tow, the regular hybrid is definitely the way to go.
Just discovered your channel. Love your reviews. Yeah real world fuel economy numbers are always way lower than what the manufacturer says. However this was a nice surprise 🙂
After owning 15+ Toyotas and Lexus vehicles, the use of cruise control consistently makes a significant difference in mpg for highway use (+2-4mpg). 2025 GHHM LTD and a Tx350 Lux due to be delivered in Nov.
I have the xle gas GH. Also average above epa estimates on highway. 29.5 mpg on long trips calculated manually. City is hard for me to determine with the variability.
Good job, Bros! Love me some math.Numbers don't lie...only politicians. I wish that Honda had a hybrid option for the Pilot. It's down nearly 140 lbs/ft compared to the Highlander.
Yesss, why pilot doesn’t have hybrid, I don’t know but one thing I know is Honda is losing money to Toyota competition. I like the material quality on Hondas vs Toyotas but I guess they are losing big.If they listen, they should go for grand pilot and hybrid options too
We were about to buy the Grand Highlander hybrid max, because it is the perfect SUV for us but Because we live in Dubai (United Arab Emirates) Toyota still haven't started to sell them. I don't know why but thanks for the Real world mpg test
Don't do the speed limit, no one does that. Go with the normal flow of traffic. Sure not the fast lane but do middle or left lane to get real world mpg.
Did you guys reset the trip computer before the trip? The discrepancy may be due to the computer averaging since the car was in service. Also there is no stop/start in a hybrid
Really interesting video, it would be great to do a similar one with the TX 500 H. Just to see if the calculation on the Lexus is more or less accurate, and if it’s worth the price difference to go The luxury model. Great video!
If u r looking for rhe best fuel economy do not use the cruise control. Adjust your foot to no pass the ECO line for the most of the time u r able to...makes a huge difference
Very stupid question (as you are both really good at these), but did you reset the MPG meter when you began the trip? It's odd that the car would be so off with MPG...
My GH Max has a gas cap holder. Were you able to actually fill the tank without it cutting off early ? Been having to really pump the gas in slowly after initial click off in order to fill up more than 11 gallons. I’ve been averaging 28.2 MPG with just local around town.
If it has a 14 gallon tank, like the rav4 hybrid, you’ll never get much more at fill up than 12 mpg. Typically 10.5-11.5 when gas light comes on for the hybrid rav4.
@@johndean4468 dang. Then 11 at fill up from empty is weird. Hope it gets figured out! I just hit 220k on my 08 5.7L sequoia. Runs like new. But….id like to upgrade. I just keep telling myself it saves me $800 a month. Haha
Hi guys, Sequoia and Grand Highlander are not available in our market in GCC Countries ,Specifically in Saudi Arabia. I don't know why, I like so much the grand Highlander. How can I buy this car. There is any chance they will be in this region this year or next year.
I have an RX500h (same power train) on the highway I can get low 30's staying the speed limit. In the city with light traffic anywhere from 25 - 28. This is what the instrument panel is telling me though, so either your tester sill needs time to calibrate, or my RX500h is doing the same thing. I guess I should try the fill up calculation method.
That's to be expected. The hybrid system is just dead weight at highway speeds. If you do mostly highway travel, the regular gas model is the one to get.
Hey thank you for the video. Quick question: we just picked up a new 2024 Grand Highlander Hybrid XLE. Car sticker says 35 miles city and 32 miles high way. I have so far driven it 380 miles (50/50 city/highway). It indicates it has 94 miles to empty. This is because I picked it up with a full tank of gas, capacity at 17.2 gallons. If I tally up all the numbers, I get an average of 27.6 miles of fuel economy, which is nowhere near the advertised fuel economy. Can you comment as to why the numbers are so different?
The Grand Highlander seems like the better fit for most families. We have a detailed comparison on the channel if you want to learn more about the differences 👍
@michalp2362 I really don't care if you believe me. And I run about 74 miles per hour on highways. We just drove from New York to Tennessee and back and repeated it. In fact. We travel a lot and it is always 21.5 to 23 mpg on trips. It has 3.21 gearing, not 3.92 which definitely helps.
My 2020 Lexus Rx450h Hybrids awd 3.5L v6 + hybrids. 308hp/295tq. I think mine rx get better mpg then this grand highlander hybrid max. 😅 2.4L turbo + hybrids. =362hp/400tq.
@@scott8919 Currently owning both Lexus and Toyota vehicles, the Lexus dealership is far superior but the growing price difference gap for essentially the same vehicle is becoming out of reach for the masses.,
Very disappointing. Basically, Hybrid Max is not made for fuel efficiency. It's for towing. So for folks who are not towing regular hybrid is the best choice!
Are they stil marking those up? No way I would ever pay a penny over MSRP. The most I ever paid for a new vehicle was advertised MSRP otd with all taxes and fees included
@michalp2362 having a naturally aspirated engine is good for the long run. Easy to fix. Fewer parts that make some cars ridiculous to fix like foreign car, this engine will last long. The Highlander is just too big for me. Like driving a small bus. I still wanna get into nice parking spaces. Even The Car Care Nut (a Toyota mechanic) said this car is almost Perfect. My Trailsport is awesome. Love the metal skid plats underneath and the color Blue I got. 💙
Yeah. But that doesn’t bother me at all. I actually trust them as a brand, other brands often keep selling their products knowing they are defective. I like the Pilot too but Highlander has more room. I don’t think you can go wrong with either.
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I have 6500 miles on my GH Hybrid Max. I am averaging 26.5 mpg. The on board computer has been anywhere from right on, to off by 3.5 mpg, so I always do hand calculations. I love the car.
The regular hybrid is the best choice for most people.
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Hybrid XLE with FWD is definitely the best option for most people. AWD is definitely good for those up north or with sloppy weather
Yes, but the Platinum won’t offer that
The best and the most efficient option is a diesel engine.
@vezyrvezyr8165 wrong. Best hybred disele
thanks for the honest review. This and the Lexus TX500h are my top choices to replace my 17 Highlander. Have never been happy with my 17 and I think the Hybrid Max GH or TX500h is the way to go. Glad to see the 28.33 mpg on your test drive!
If u dont mind the trade off of ride quality, go for the GH, cuz it uses 87, TX uses 91, which defeat the purpose of saving gas. But i like better ride, so i ordered the TX, will pick up tmr morning!
It is always best to use the two click method when filling. Especially if you are checking MPG. When filling the tank, let it auto click off, then wait 30 seconds to let everything settle in the tank. Then, manually fill a second time with the lever fully on until it clicks off again. I believe this is a pretty sound method because in my experience, after waiting 30 seconds, sometimes the auto off will shut off almost immediately, and other times, it will add a considerable amount of fuel. Make sure you do this every time you fill the tank to ensure you are getting the most accurate MPG on the vehicle.
Thanks for the tip! We will take it into consideration
If one uses the exact same pump at the same station this may be a valid point. Problem with your theory is every auto shut off valve varies to when it actually engages.
You gotta do the tfl method. Fill till click wait 30 seconds and one top off click.. air bubbles can throw the numbers off…. Needless to say it would not make that much of a difference so very impressive results
Thank you for sharing this info! I get on my GH ( hybrid max )approx 29mpg on highway driving. Newbie on your channel! Great informative videos.
Welcome to the channel! Thanks for your support!
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How many liters are there in your gallons?
@@bmwsupreme5908about 3.8 liters to 1 gallon
Love these reviews on vehicles hardly anybody can get. They make about 1 hybrid or every 10 gas and everyone wants them. Have fun with your year plus waits. Got me a gas xle.
And your gas xle probably only averages 5% less mpg. Winner winner. U can buy a lot of fuel and drive a lot of miles with that 5k savings.
Great video. The hybrid max will be the best choice for long term ownership enjoyment.
What about maintenance cost long term?
U got the right spot to hold the cap, you just neeed to put it on tight
Great job best brothers at car reviews! ❤
I'd love a comparison to this Max and the Grand Highlander Hybrid Limited version, please.
I have the Canadian Hybrid limited awd and I'm getting around 7.2l/100km on highways and as low as 5.7l/100km on city/back roads. It's really good if you know how to drive a Toyota hybrid, pulse and glide technique. I just hit 4000km this week. If you dont need to tow, the regular hybrid is definitely the way to go.
Just discovered your channel. Love your reviews.
Yeah real world fuel economy numbers are always way lower than what the manufacturer says. However this was a nice surprise 🙂
Thank you! Welcome to the channel!
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My wife and I have had our hybrid max since last September and we average 23-24
I loved my 2022 sienna XLE AWD hybrid (same power train as the GH hybrid AWD).
A vehicle that big and I averaged 32-36 mpg.
After owning 15+ Toyotas and Lexus vehicles, the use of cruise control consistently makes a significant difference in mpg for highway use (+2-4mpg). 2025 GHHM LTD and a Tx350 Lux due to be delivered in Nov.
I have the xle gas GH. Also average above epa estimates on highway. 29.5 mpg on long trips calculated manually. City is hard for me to determine with the variability.
Good job, Bros! Love me some math.Numbers don't lie...only politicians. I wish that Honda had a hybrid option for the Pilot. It's down nearly 140 lbs/ft compared to the Highlander.
Politicians lie with numbers 😂
Yesss, why pilot doesn’t have hybrid, I don’t know but one thing I know is Honda is losing money to Toyota competition. I like the material quality on Hondas vs Toyotas but I guess they are losing big.If they listen, they should go for grand pilot and hybrid options too
Great video!!
We were about to buy the Grand Highlander hybrid max, because it is the perfect SUV for us but
Because we live in Dubai (United Arab Emirates) Toyota still haven't started to sell them.
I don't know why but thanks for the Real world mpg test
Don't do the speed limit, no one does that. Go with the normal flow of traffic. Sure not the fast lane but do middle or left lane to get real world mpg.
Did you guys reset the trip computer before the trip? The discrepancy may be due to the computer averaging since the car was in service. Also there is no stop/start in a hybrid
We did reset the trip computer.
Great video!😸
Really interesting video, it would be great to do a similar one with the TX 500 H. Just to see if the calculation on the Lexus is more or less accurate, and if it’s worth the price difference to go The luxury model. Great video!
Thanks! Hope to do one on the 500h soon
The engines are tuned differently on the Lexus even though it’s the same engine. It also requires premium gas.
If u r looking for rhe best fuel economy do not use the cruise control. Adjust your foot to no pass the ECO line for the most of the time u r able to...makes a huge difference
Very stupid question (as you are both really good at these), but did you reset the MPG meter when you began the trip? It's odd that the car would be so off with MPG...
To confirm, yes we did! We triple checked too
@@CarConfections You two are the best, keep up the good work
I like to know if you put the normal tire pressure specs on all tires before doing this?
I have had mine since August. What drives me nuts is that it reports that its tank is empty when it has 5 more gallons! Anyone else with this problem?
This is standard for RAV4 and H/GH
My GH Max has a gas cap holder. Were you able to actually fill the tank without it cutting off early ? Been having to really pump the gas in slowly after initial click off in order to fill up more than 11 gallons. I’ve been averaging 28.2 MPG with just local around town.
If it has a 14 gallon tank, like the rav4 hybrid, you’ll never get much more at fill up than 12 mpg.
Typically 10.5-11.5 when gas light comes on for the hybrid rav4.
@@americandude3825 GH has a 17.2 gallon gas tank.
@@johndean4468 dang. Then 11 at fill up from empty is weird. Hope it gets figured out!
I just hit 220k on my 08 5.7L sequoia. Runs like new. But….id like to upgrade. I just keep telling myself it saves me $800 a month. Haha
Hi guys, Sequoia and Grand Highlander are not available in our market in GCC Countries ,Specifically in Saudi Arabia. I don't know why, I like so much the grand Highlander. How can I buy this car. There is any chance they will be in this region this year or next year.
Do u guys know if the 2025 reg highlander will have any updates or face lift ?
@Brian_Eugene_Lee2025 Camry and current Sienna are hybrid only, so it would not be unusual to think this will go that way too
The Highlander probably has a year or two more before major updates
The Hybrid Max is interesting because the faster I drive it, the better fuel mileage I get 27-30mpg. Seems the highway speeds are its sweet spot.
If you love in good weather the hybrid XLE would suffice.
If you are in the NE or MW, you might want to go with the AWD
I have an RX500h (same power train) on the highway I can get low 30's staying the speed limit. In the city with light traffic anywhere from 25 - 28. This is what the instrument panel is telling me though, so either your tester sill needs time to calibrate, or my RX500h is doing the same thing. I guess I should try the fill up calculation method.
Yea u right, u have to own the vehicle for a long time for it to show the real mpg. A week or 2 testing isn't gonna cut it
Great job guys, keep it up.
How much is it to fill up from empty? Or close to empty?
It will tell you exactly what your mileage is when you turn it off and look at the dash, it will explain the mileage.
You should probably test the fuel economy of the platinum trim that’s gas powered not hybrid
That's to be expected. The hybrid system is just dead weight at highway speeds. If you do mostly highway travel, the regular gas model is the one to get.
100 percent correct
Which is better GH hybrid max or XC90 rechargeable???
Hey thank you for the video. Quick question: we just picked up a new 2024 Grand Highlander Hybrid XLE. Car sticker says 35 miles city and 32 miles high way. I have so far driven it 380 miles (50/50 city/highway). It indicates it has 94 miles to empty. This is because I picked it up with a full tank of gas, capacity at 17.2 gallons. If I tally up all the numbers, I get an average of 27.6 miles of fuel economy, which is nowhere near the advertised fuel economy. Can you comment as to why the numbers are so different?
Just give it time and you should see a good deal of improvement once the vehicle is broken in. Thanks!
Thank you
I wish it had a bench seat option
How much was the fuel cost total? ⛽
Did you reset the odometer between each check-in?
We didn’t reset the whole system, just an individual trip, separate from the total reading
Which do you prefer this new “grand” highlander or the regular highlander ? Kinda of hard to tell the difference at times
The Grand Highlander seems like the better fit for most families. We have a detailed comparison on the channel if you want to learn more about the differences 👍
Only similarity is the body style.
Come on Toyota, but a freaking bench seat in the hybrid max models because my family is not interested in the xle and the non hybrid trims!
You should also do manual calculations as the computer is sometimes off as well.
We spent time doing manual calculations at the end of the video
Brand new cars in general suck at calibrating accurate mpg. Probably more accurate after you break a few thousand miles
I’m thinking of ordering 1 how’s the ride quality ?
Great!
Awesome
Not impressed. My 5.7 Hemi Ram truck , loaded with 2 passengers and lots of gear got 23.6 mpg from New York to Kentucky. Crew cab model.
I was just thinking the same thing in regards to my F150 2.7 Ecoboost 4x4
Do a video and post it like these guys did. Its all just a bunch of i can do this or that unless you can prove it.
Not that I don’t believe you but that must’ve been with the tailwind and probably below speed limit.
@michalp2362 I really don't care if you believe me. And I run about 74 miles per hour on highways. We just drove from New York to Tennessee and back and repeated it. In fact. We travel a lot and it is always 21.5 to 23 mpg on trips. It has 3.21 gearing, not 3.92 which definitely helps.
Most people dont realize the hybrid max is made for performance. Not mpg
A hybrid system can be used to increase performance but the primary reason in Toyotas is efficiency (mpg).
@@gregoryradley4152that’s what regular hybrid is for with the eCVT. Hybrid Max is defiantly calibrated for performance.
Hybrid and performance in the same sentence....
I’m confused. Toyota hybrids always 6% optimistic, how can this new grand highlander to show so much lower vs real life?
I thought you guys lived in Richmond!
Richmond is a street in their test drive route like three years ago
@@Car_conversati0nz Richmond is also a town in Kentucky
The real mpg is probably the average of the computer and acutual fuel used according to the gas pump.
I have a normal Highlander V6 and its calculations are ALWAYS on the very conservative side
My 2020 Lexus Rx450h Hybrids awd 3.5L v6 + hybrids. 308hp/295tq.
I think mine rx get better mpg then this grand highlander hybrid max. 😅
2.4L turbo + hybrids. =362hp/400tq.
Purchase this over the Lexus RX clone which costs 20 to 50% more!
Agreed, unless you like the dealership experience and think the extra cost is worth it. I don't, but others would weight that.
@@scott8919 Currently owning both Lexus and Toyota vehicles, the Lexus dealership is far superior but the growing price difference gap for essentially the same vehicle is becoming out of reach for the masses.,
The RX is at most a 5 seater. Different class. Plus the RX is way more advanced tech and quality materials throughout
@@beexiong2995 The RX is just an over cost clone of the Toyota Highlander, 1980s GM style.
@@icare7151 have you owned both?
Gas mileage on all toyota cars are under estimate.
Toyota Hybrid works optimally when you stuck in the traffic. 😅
Not this hybrid system. The ones with eCVT sure do
Very disappointing. Basically, Hybrid Max is not made for fuel efficiency. It's for towing. So for folks who are not towing regular hybrid is the best choice!
Yeah. I love the max, but I can't justify why the hybrid max has such mediocre mpg. The whole point of a hybrid system is to save on gas.
The epa is doing 55 mph
Folks let the new cars sit at the dealership for a few months before you make a purchase. Let the price come down to normal...
The dealership don't even have them. They are being pre-ordered from factory.
Are they stil marking those up? No way I would ever pay a penny over MSRP. The most I ever paid for a new vehicle was advertised MSRP otd with all taxes and fees included
Buddy your out of the loop. Waiting list of 6 months on the hybrids.
Cincinnati!
27mpg for the hybrid is NOT even impressive at all
Just to clarify, this is Hybrid Max. There is also a conventional Hybrid which gets about 10 MPG better, according to the EPA.
In Canada to get this car is 40 months wait 😂😂 total disgusting
I got GH in Ottawa in 3 months. Before that, was waiting for a regular Highlander Hybrid for 18 months - never got it :)
@@izwaterloo I'm thinking of getting either GH or Crown Sagnia. I have to check the full price and my budget is important too lol . Let's see
Total wait because you want to custom build your own. Thus the wait. Go to the dealership and buy what's on the lot that fits your needs. No wait
@@izwaterlooyou got lucky. It's atleast a 2 years waitlist almost everywhere in Canada.
@@beexiong2995the lots don't even have any.
23 mog god too whay 1980 gars. 1980 pnky git 11.5 mog average
Can you translate that to English for us?
@@scott8919 1980. Exotic cars only 11 mogs vers 23 mog is good mog
Get a Honda pilot. Way better.
What’s better in the Pilot? I’m cross shoping them
@michalp2362 having a naturally aspirated engine is good for the long run. Easy to fix. Fewer parts that make some cars ridiculous to fix like foreign car, this engine will last long. The Highlander is just too big for me. Like driving a small bus. I still wanna get into nice parking spaces. Even The Car Care Nut (a Toyota mechanic) said this car is almost Perfect. My Trailsport is awesome. Love the metal skid plats underneath and the color Blue I got. 💙
@@michalp2362 btw did you hear about the STOP sale of the Grand Hilander by Toyota??
Yeah. But that doesn’t bother me at all. I actually trust them as a brand, other brands often keep selling their products knowing they are defective. I like the Pilot too but Highlander has more room. I don’t think you can go wrong with either.
Not impressed. Lame results