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Great install sir! You make it all look so easy. Enjoyed as always. Keep up the good work!
Wrong, he left out the whole charging the system with refrigerant thing.
@@planetvance The ac units come factory charged. when he opened the valves all the way he was releasing the stored refrigerant
Keep up the good work you have a gift for this bro cause you make it look easy
everything you did in this video is awesome
Great Install and Instructional Video, thank you for all the time you invested!
Of course thanks for watching! Hope you stick around for great informative future videos with the heating season coming up :)
I just saw your contribution. Thanks so much for your support!! Cheers man
Great team work 👍👍👍👍💯💯💯 very informative, Thank you
This was very informative. Thank you.
Recently had a complete new set of two inside and outside units installed. Should I be able to feel cold air coming from around the top of the inside unit case (the door in your video with GOODMAN on it) and the place where the refrigerant line enters the unit? Thanks
Nice install!
That’s a cool drill attachment for cutting sheet metal. That would’ve helped me and my bro in law. We just replaced my furnace and AC last week and the sheet metal took a good chunk of time.
Yea it is a life saver! How did your replacement go??
@@diyhvacguy it went well! My bro in law works in HVAC so that definitely helped. 😁
@@jcw1197 right on!
@@diyhvacguy Hola una pregunta . Es necesario tener permiso de un condado para remplazar e sistema de aire y calefaccion?
@@glorianunez4923depende de su cuidad. Normalmente se requiere un permiso
Thanks for all of the great videos. I have been watching all of them. I will be swapping out my home AC and Heating units this next spring. The AC is from 1968, sears (still works great), and furnace is not much newer. The evaporator coil is in a huge box above the furnace that also deals out all of the out going ductwork. Would you just replace the evaporator coil and not the box or take down the whole thing and rebuild it all? I am looking forward to the patreon membership a month or two before I start the project. Keep up the great videos!!!
hi thank you for the great videos! My grandson who's in trade school loves these videos. He says it needs a filter drier. I have no idea what that is or where it goes. Looking forward to more videos!
There is one inside the condenser
Filter Drier not as necessary on a New System, although it would be safer for the evaporator coil in case of rust inhibitor breaking off of the compressor as what took place with a lot of Copland Compressors about 10 years ago. Also solder could affect the refrigerant circuit.
Do you ever add POE oil into the lines for HVAC replacement jobs like this with longer line-sets? If you have to add R410a into a system that has a longer line-set, it seems like you would need to add POE oil also. Thank you.
I will be switching out my home heating/ac next spring. I have an old system, the ac is 1968 sears unit and furnace is probably a little newer but not much. The evaporator coil is in a huge box above the furnace that handles all of the outgoing ductwork. How do you handle a situation like that? Just change out the evaporator coil itself and not the box? I will definitely be signing up for the patreon a month or so before I make the purchase and start planning it out. Thanks for all of the great detailed videos.
What black controller did you push down the hole and connect to the Google Nest E? I don't think it comes with Google Nest E.
Great video! My ac unit is 20 years old need to replace I am thinking of getting Goodman GSZC 18 SEER any thoughts? Thanks
Nice straight to the point
Thank you so much all of your videos. I just installed 3 tons goodman and it turned out perfect.
I have a question though. Why did you need to convert piston to TXV. What’s the advantage and disadvantage? Thanks
I would have done a piston if it was up to me, but I quoted this customer a 16seer system, and the txv is needed to achieve 16 seer. The efficiency increase is minimal, not worth it in my opinion, but that’s what they wanted so that’s what we did. Txv’s are good, I just prefer the fixed orifice personally :) thanks for watching! If you have any other questions don’t hesitate to ask! Cheers
Very ok, excellent show ❤ happy to watching
in order to open up the refrigerant lines, does the compressor need to be on?
Cutting sheet metal without gloves?!? I’m impressed!
I've cut sheetmetal for 33 years without gloves, and don't know anyone who does.
Is the a big difference between a 14 seer and a 16.5 seer in regards to efficiency. How much should I expect to pay to have a pro install a furnace and ac?
why did you place the bulb before the TXV? I thought it needs to be after the meetering device?
Excelents videos n very educationals n have a good day
Loving your videos, thank you for sharing the professional knowledge. I've been doing DIY hvac to install my own heat pumps in AZ for many years. I always thought it was critical to isolate below 500 microns and monitor 10 or 15 mins of decay to make sure it does not rise too much. Do you not need this in any situation? Did you not do this because its a new unit?
I’ve recently started to implement this, but I hadn’t for a ton of units with no issues whatsoever. Just like I didn’t use nitrogen for alot of units with no problems years down the road. But yes this is definitely a good practice. I’m gonna be picking up the fieldpiece digital gauges this spring that have a built in vacrometer so you can do this decay test with ease. Cheers
Where's the charging the system with refrigerant part? Lame!
@@planetvance i think most units now with 410a come with refrigerant inside the condenser, so no need but depends how long the lines are
Great video. 7:47 was my favorite part.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 didn’t even notice that until just now
Im hear too watch and learn whatever i can about the trade. Seems like a great business to get into especially as hot as it is getting every year. Thanks for the vid
Great videos first off! Do you ever check the gas inlet and manifold pressures or is the regulator always properly set from factory regardless of inlet pressures?
Yes, I always check that at startup
Where's the charging the system with refrigerant part? Lame!
@The DIY HVAC Guy In which City do you work? I need HVAC system replace.
I gonna put the same thermostat for my amana
Hey Dave love your videos ,would like to see a video about wheat pump install over existing gas furnace air cond. Coil housing above
I’ve been thinking about creating a video converting my condensing unit to a heat pump. That could very well be in the pipeline! Stay tuned
@@diyhvacguy Why added a TXV....❓❓ Should it came with Evaporator coil
Dude you are good
Quick questions....
In a central AC unit, I know you can braze, but I'm drawn to the pro-fit connectors even though they are pricey as a one off since they seem to be idiot proof. I've also seen compression fittings used....but the tool seems to run at least $1000. On mini-splits, flare fittings seem popular. Can you also do flare on conventional AC like Goodman? Also, soft solder...Staybrite 8 I think with minimal flux. Any thoughts. Brazing seems like it can be screwed up.
With anything other then brazing you are taking a risk, many people won’t do anything but brazing but I’m open to other alternatives. The zoomlock and rls fittings do require a tool that’s more like 3k which isn’t an option for most DIYers. They do have the push to connect fittings similar to shark bite fittings, most don’t trust them but I’ll install them on the next install I do and document everything! Another gentleman said that he only uses solder and flux and it doesn’t need nitrogen since it’s much lower heat. I’m going to look into that also and maybe give that a try sometime! Anyways thanks for the questions, it gives me something to try on the next install and if there is success then I can recommend it to diyers like yourself. Thanks for the support! Cheers
@@diyhvacguy
You're awesome! Thanks!
@@biggregg5 you got it!
Staybrite #8 not plumbing solder I've seen used before.
Brazing will consume you! Or it's just me. Kickin my xxxx in the 105° Texas heat. Chasing bubbles...
Why did you spray the brazing joint with water? Doesn't rapid cooling risk cracking the brazing joint? Would it be better to let it cool down slower?
I never had an issue with it but from what folks have said, it’s better to just keep the king valves cool and let the joint cool on its own. If you use Staybrite 8 it creates way less heat.
@@diyhvacguyWHy added a TXV..❓❓. It should came factory installed
Thanks for the info.
You bet!
That’s some complicated ass work brother, 👏🏽
you make it look so easy sir ,thank you!
How can I find an air conditioner size which have no name plates - sun fade out and no records?
thank you!
You can look at the evaporator coil and it should have a model/serial on it. The Evap coil should match the condenser.
If you are looking to replace the system though you can go in hvacdirect.com and look at their sizing chart and it will tell you what size system you need 👍🏽
thank you sir you are the man
Count the Return air ducts and their sizes, check the Breaker Size, the Square Feet of the house, check the size of the evaporator coil, look at the supply air capacity of the duct system, look at the top of the compressor and see if you can read the model number, Thats the best way.
Hello great videos been watching a lot them can you solder them or do you have to braze and what is the difference
You actually can solder them but you must use Stay Brite 8. I’m in the process of creating a video on how to solder linesets and will be posting that before this spring when a lot of brazing will be happening. The Staybrite 8 has been field tested and is actually stronger then brazing, but requires the use of flux which some people don’t like. Brazing melts the copper together actually fuzing them, whereas soldering fills the joints.
Stay tuned for the Staybrite 8 video! There are a few out there, but the guy Steven Lavamoniere here on RUclips has been using it for 30 years and won’t use anything else.
Thanks very informative Keep up the great videos and thanks again
When brazing do you Ream sand and Flux your pipes? Also I'd love to see how you decide to do the through from the unit outside to the unit inside. Do you cut into siding or what? Also is nitrogen neccisary when brazing to prevent the pipe from getting too hot?
Nitrogen is used to prevent carbon build up on the inside of the copper tubing from brazing.
Hi, I have so much trouble running youtube on my ipad. I appreciate the responses to my hvac questions. I now know that my 1987 Tecumseh AV 168ET 005 Compressor runs but has stopped compressing the R22 freon. Do you have any ideas on how to replace or rebuild it? Thanks, Steve
It’s a pretty technical job. If your compressor is just locked up, it can be replaced by itself. If it had a burnout it might be better replacing the whole system. If you aren’t sure just google compressor burnout
Give it up! that's like driving a Model T Ford on the German Autobahn.
I just recently started school for hvac but a lot of the things were learning has me intimidated. Is it really that hard or am I just learning a whole bunch of things I most likely won’t even need
Hello I love it my respect sir
Love and tks
Doesn't the manufacture recommend to insulate the sensing bulb.
Videos like this is why RUclips was created. Plan on replacing my Lennox Pulse furnace with a Goodman. Definitely feel more comfortable after watching this.
Awesome! If you need any help with sizing or warranty with new equipment, feel free to shoot me an email at diyhvacguy@gmail.com Thanks, Dave
How’d the install go?
@jimyheffrey7336 didnt do it yet, money been tight lately. Haven't bought a new unit yet 😔
@@philb707 feel that, everything hvac wise has gone up a shit ton
No Conduit on the High voltage Wire to the Condenser? Good Job, but I'd put 1/2" Conduit & Romex Connector on the High voltage wire going to the Condenser. Great Job on the Venting, very nice!
What kind of wash in was that???? Easily can be moved or leak through that tape
Hello, very informative video I must say, however I wish you would show the process of recharging the system after you pull a vacuum.
Watch some of my other videos I show that process. But I’ll for sure be showing that part in greater detail soon! Cheers
To be fair, that requires certification. You should know how to handle refrigerant very deadly.
@@kurtwithaj6634 lol no it’s not stfu
I have an EVAP coil on top of my furnace but have never had a/c. Why would that be and do I need to replace it with my furnace or just get rid of it? Thx
Alot of new construction they will put the evap coil on top of the furnaces and run the lineset, so if in the future it is desired, it is less work. However, if it is an old furnace with the coil attached, more then likely it is designed for r22, you can read what refrigerent it takes on the stamp on the front of the coil. So if it says r22, you will have the replace it with a new one anyways. I just recently did this for a customer. System had a coil from 2008, never used. And lineset and electric for condenser, but nothing was finished, so I installed a new condenser and replaced the evap coil with a 410a coil, connected my lines and electrical and it was in business! If you have any more questions, feel free to ask! Cheers
Sounds like the Builder cut corners many places, probably went out of business. Cheap Cheap Cheap. Although I have seen that, it is usually on a basement system that is unfinished and required heat only.
So, is there any problem is you open the vapor line first and the liquid line second in your condensing unit?
Doesn’t make any difference IMO
I always do suction first
Hi , I m new in HVAC business , where do you buy furnace and AC
What do you say adverage per hour? $75-85 Seems fair where im at in western pa
What about the addition of coolant? Used to be freon?
Most Condensers come pre charged with enough for a 15 ft line set
For the outdoor unit, do you run a 10/2 or 10/3 with ground romex wire? Thx
10/2 👍🏼
The size of the wire is determined by the amp draw or as the manufacturer says on the data plate. you might need 6-2 w/ Ground depending on the length and amp draw.
@@VisionStance Just needed 10/2 and ran it 90’, system is up and working. A/C never felt so good! 😁👍🏻
Did you remove the valve core before brazing?
Can I please ask you another question? I have a Lenox system about 6 years old that is still under warranty. The system is not getting cold at all. At first, I thought it was low on freon but I didn’t see any ice buildup on the system. I called the CO and they inspected it. They told me that the system needs freon which is not under warranty and I have to pay out of my pocket. I plan to charge the freon tomorrow. I just wanted to run by you to see why this system is low on freon but there is no ice buildup?
A system that is low on Freon will freeze the evaporator coil because the pressure at the low side gauge correlates to a temperature, when it gets too low, that temperature readout gets below 30 deg and the ice will eventually just block the air handler from blowing any air at all. You must have SOME temperature drop from your return air to your supply vents if it’s low on Freon but not freezing. It doesn’t necessarily have to be freezing to be low. Your pressures on a hot day should be around 150-170 on the low side and 300-315 on the high side. If it’s not super hot those numbers will be a little lower. Hope this helps!
@@diyhvacguy So when I charge the freon, how do you determine that's full? is it based on the pressure range above that you recommended or based on SH & SC number? I looked at the factory sign. it's only shown the freon weight (5lb 13 oz).
@@trucle1859 Does it have a txv? If so you would measure the subcooling. If it has a piston, measure the superheat. Typically you want about 10-12 degrees of superheat, and around and the same for subcooling. If there is no heat coming out of the condensing unit like above the fan when you get started, and after you pump it up to around 150 low, 300 high and you get some hot air coming out, you know the condenser is working now. It should always be blowing warmer then ambient air out of the condenser. Email me for a quicker response tomorrow if you need help. Stojicrepair@gmail.com
so why do you need nitrogen in the lines when brazing? And I'm guessing that using a methane torch wont work? Ans what metal are you melting? Is it different from water pipes?
Why did you fold down the flanges on top of the furnace? Aren't they there to keep the matching coil case secured to the top of the furnace? I'm pretty sure when I did my Goodman 4 years ago that's how it went together and I definitely know I didn't fold anything down like that. Also, here's a tip. Start your screws on the bulb strap from the top next time. That will make it much easier to tighten.
But actually, do not connect your steel TXV bulb to the aluminum on the evaporator coil. These are 2 very dissimilar metals and create galvanic corrosion between them. The TXV instructions show to connect it to copper either inside the coil casing or outside the coil casing, but you must connect to copper, not aluminum. Over time there's a good chance corrosion will develop on the aluminum coil due to steel on aluminum and a leak will occur. Steel to copper is way more compatible and should last the life of the unit.
What's the theory of running nitrogen while braizing? I did residential appliance system work with just acetylene for 40 years so watching was a "what the heck ? " moment. All of those fittings on the evap. looks like potential leak sources. My 18 year old Rheem coil had nothing like that when I installed it. Nothing external on mine but refrigerant lines. Thanks for video.
Yea they wanted a higher efficiency system. I prefer the standard piston metering device instead of the txv that you saw on the Evap coil. The theory on the nitrogen is that if you braze without a nitrogen flow, it will creat soot inside the lines that will mix with the refrigerant. Supposedly it wasn’t a big deal with r22 but it is with 410a. That’s what they say. I have another video on Staybrite 8. An awesome alternative to brazing and no nitrogen flow is needed because soldering takes way less heat then brazing. Check it out! Cheers
I gonna do the same
You didn't show the install of the fast-stat 5000. I like your channel you have tons of great information so thanks for that. I was also looking for a link for the 5000 I need this for my install.
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Do you do any live training? Interested if so
So what is the reasoning for using the vacuum pump after the nitrogen pressure test? If you're showing no loss of pressure after the nitrogen test, Im assuming its standard to test for outward pressure on the pipes, and the inward suction on the pipes as well?
No the vacuum is to remove any moisture and oxygen from the lines. Then when you introduce your refrigerant into the pipes, you are going from a vacuum to positive pressure. No air or moisture should ever enter those lines.
There is no outward pressure on the refrigerant lines! You only pressurize the coil during leak search, but that practice has long been abandoned as no one removes coils anymore to find leaks and then reinstalls the same coil. too expensive
is it available in precharged and precharged lines...i don't want to mess with brazing or freon....
There are some mini splits that come with pre-charged winds, but not for regular residential split systems. You can always have a contractor come in and braise the joints and pull a vacuum on the system possibly. I did this for a customer not too long ago. He fitted everything and had it ready to go so I put my nitrogen flow on it braised it pulled a vacuum and tested out the system. it was a pretty easy process. If you have any more questions, don’t hesitate to ask. Cheers, Dave.
@@diyhvacguy thanks for the response...
Why did you cut 1.5 inch off of the plenum to slide the coil? Now there’s a big gap between the coil and plenum and only securing it with metal tape. Sucks for the person that has to come back to replace the furnace only cuz that coil has a high chance of falling.
Why do you need nitrogen blowing in both the low side and high side as you braze.? Is it necessary .?
I was taught to braze first then blow nitrogen in both sides to see if there’s any leaks
This was fucken sick man thank you for this video 🎉🎉🎉
Great Video young man. Can you tell us the brand name of the unit you removed?
Luxaire!
Like the video. One recommendation is when you put the bulb on it should be on the outside of the case. The installation manual says to. Also i dont know where your located but here in CO you gotta secure the coil box to the supply plenum.
I agree, Metal with drive strips should have been used instead of that tape. It's not even Heat Tape. Won't last! Ive seen hundreds of tapped connections coming loose after time, always have to correct it.
Why can't you use map gas to solder the joints? Also why do you need to have the nitrogen on to solder?
ok nevermind, just googled it. Need hotter flame than map, and then you dont want copper oxide, thats why we need the oxygen! You're doing a great job!
Actually I’m going to be testing a soft solder for hvac lines that’s called staybrite8. A lot of hvac guys swear by it and it only gets to 400 degrees so you don’t need the nitrogen flow. Will be doing some testing with that soon so stay tuned! Cheers
@@diyhvacguy Can you also do a video on how to capture freon from a unit? Like say a condensor has to be removed to install new concrete. Need to capture the freon and re-charge the unit.
Is there any way to rent the tools rather than buy them like the vacuum pump, nitrogen bottle and evacuation pump? It's a lot of expense for a one time use.
Not really. They’re specialty tools but even if you were to buy the tools and resell them you’d be in it a lot cheaper then paying a company. You can also do everything up to the brazing and vacuum procedure and just have a small HVAC company do that last portion for relatively cheap and that way you don’t have to buy a vacuum pump, brazing tanks, nitrogen etc. etc.
Your waisting time and money! You must have a License to handle refrigerant and know what the Hell your are doing. It's not easy unless you are a trained tech.
It is possible to do that with a propane torch ?
I’m going to be doing a few videos on using Staybrite 8 which is a solar solder made for hvac application and you will be able to use a mapp gas yellow small torch to do it. Stay tuned for that!!! Cheers
How much do you have to be able to lift to be an HVAC tech?
Maybe a dumb question can you not use a map torch to braze?
Need higher temperatures to braze effectively
Where do we buy ac unit and heating unit. I mean which store or online. Can you give me the link
and also which brand is best AC unit and furnace please
Hvacdirect.com Or Amazon.com
For a homeowner, I’d say Goodman. They have a good product. If you need help finding the right system, let me know and I can help you out. Shoot me an email at stojicrepair@gmail.com
@@diyhvacguy Thank you so much. I hope you will make video how we will buy AC or furnace. Which brand is good, what is ton and seer. every things please
Why does no one post putting the freon in the machine does it come with the machine?
Yes it comes pre charged usually with enough for 15 ft line set. After installation charge should be checked and adjusted or line set length should be measured before releasing the charge. Then you can add refrigerant amount and then release the charge.
So much experience that he doesn’t cut he’s fingers with all the sharpest metals
I cut my fingers just looking at him handle the sheet metal lol
I started having problems with my furnace last year. Most recent thing they “think” it is is inducer motor. About $500 fix. House is 20 years old. I want to replace furnace. All a/c stuff was replaced 2 years ago w Goodman unit. Not sure what to do. I’m handy with home improvements but…. Btw. Hi efficiency furnace
As you can see, replacing the furnace is not something that’s crazy technical. If you feel confident doing it, I can help you find the right furnace for your house. They come pretty dialed in on the gas pressure. I haven’t had a single one that was way off on the gas pressure. $500 sounds reasonable for an inducer replacement if that’s the part and labor.
Thanks for reaching out by the way. If you’d like to email for a quicker response, my email is stojicrepair@gmail.com Cheers, Dave
Just got a new goodman looks alot like this one .. when I started it up today for the 1st time , it smelled like something was burning and made the whole house smell .. Is that normal? .. I shut it off only let it run for about 1 min ... wondering if it's a new furnace thing ?!
Yep, perfectly normal. Sometimes the fire alarms will go off. Just monitor it, it should dissipate in a couple hours
@@diyhvacguy okay cool that's good news .. I was wondering is there any package or something I missed that I needed to remove .. my plan was to leave the a coil as is an let a pro do that part in the spring .. I did notice just now you mentioned they ship with nitrogen .. I did not bleed that out yet .. should I or is that okay to just leave alone ? .. thanks for your time !
@@davidfrisch5538 they say to take the nitrogen out so I’d probably bleed it. I’ve seen them with nitrogen used before plenty of times. So if you put a new Evap coil there is a packet in there that has the manual and the brass elbow for the liquid line. you took that out right?
@@diyhvacguy yeah I removed that stuff .. ill try it again tomorrow with the windows open and yet it run for a few hours , lucky its been warm the past couple of days so wanted to get the furnace portion taken care of .. ill bleed it the a coil too b4 .. I didn't see it in this video but your other ones you brushed on duct seal .. I think I should do that too .. right now the 1/2 in gap between the a- coil and Platinum is just foil taped with a few layers
@@davidfrisch5538 yea the duct sealant gives it a nice rigid surface that can’t tear.
In my house I gonna install an amana
Do you have an email where i can ask a few questions regarding a goodman 2 ton GSX14?
Diyhvacguy@gmail.com 👍🏼
I’m just curious as to why you didn’t get a custom return drop to fit the 16 x 25 1 filter
I believe that was a 20 x 25 x 1 filter rack!
Did you run Hydrogen when brazing the pipes on the evaporator coil?
Do you only use Goodman
Yes I am a Goodman dealer.
Is the nitrogen really needed to perform the job?
No, it wasn’t used for many years but supposedly a unit will live longer if brazed with a nitrogen flow. I’ve installed many units without doing it and I’ve never had a problem.
Let the brazed joint cool down slowly
I liked your video but I did not like how you filled in the gap between the duct and the top of the coil box with tape. Should have used sheet metal to fill in.
Yes this was when I was still learning. As you can see in my newer videos I build a nice transition with a cross break. But this does still work and will seal just fine. Thanks for the input! Cheers
How much to install this
I believe this full install was about 7k for furnace and ac. But that was back when I was lot cheaper. Typically this system would cost 15k if you had a big company do it.
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How much will cost for a 3 ton with furnace will cost i leave in California iam planning to replace mine
Hey! If you need help getting pricing, finding equipment, help with the install and warranty info, check out our Patreon membership at Patreon.com/diyhvacguy where for 25 bucks you will get one on one support and quick response times 👍🏼 cheers
In California it will cost between 8-13k for a standard efficiency furnace
Gotta ask...your helper...is that home owner, spouse or hired hand?
That’s my better half 😅
@@diyhvacguy that's very cool! She is not only a good helper but an attractive one at that! I think it is an awesome thing when couples can work together and find success. Yall keep up the good work!
Slight typo on description; "principals still apply" should probably be "principles still apply"
I’m on it! This is why I never won the spelling bee 😂
Wow really??
They don't show videos like this in schools?
Vac gauge in line with pump 😂.
Yes I have made a lot of changes since doing this video, but this system is running great!
Ok. Appion core tools, appion hose, pump, and a blue-vac micron gauge is all I use. Your video about sizing equipment properly. Are you doing manual j now?. I'm not sure how old that video was maybe you do it differently now but it kind of seemed like a copy paste, or leaning on square footage
Do you have a HVAC contractor license, or handyman license?
Uh yeah. Where's the 410a to make it work? Lame!
It’s is precharged in the condenser 👍🏼 everyone asks this question
@@diyhvacguy I only meant lame in the sense that I really wanted to see you do that part. Great video. Sorry for my lame wording.
Pleeeeeassssseeee wear gloves while metal working 🫣🫣
man up bud
How was your installation. Any problems with the Goodman?
Nope, they have a great product!
@@diyhvacguy Daiken has stepped it up a notch with the basic Goodman unit then.