As an HVAC triple OG, I would like to see the competition have real world surroundings like an attic with a low pitch roof and no walk boards. And the lineset whole is wedged in the soffet so you got to get a face full of insulation to run the lines 😂 Or put poison ivy bush or wasp hive near the ac 😂😂😂
@@joebyron9 Or who can troubleshoot, diagnose, and repair any number of service issues. For the finals, who can fix the installer's mistake the fastest 🤣
This was ok, but they didn't show none of the important stuff. No Leak test, didn't pull a vacuum, didn't do a start up, and not to mention no trouble shooting. Plus, they didn't put the insulation back on the piping. This system would never work properly. Ohh well, maybe they will add more next year.
This is an install competition, The Company I worked at the Service guys did the refrigeration piping and Electrical work, Sheetmetal workers did the rest. Back then we had VICA/Today Skills USA I won 1st place in Colorado in 1981 went to nationals and didn't make the top 3 but our competition had Bending , Brazing, Airflow Readings, Electrical and refrigeration troubleshooting, and tested on all our safety and how we came up with our results. But this was cool to see.
I feel like one of the qualifications for this compitition should be hvac being your full time job. A full time plumber running pipe faster than hvac guys, who would have thought?
"This is what a power bender does for you, helps you save time" While the guy waits for the bender to slowly disengage the pipe.... That thing was slow Af.
Doing this in Tampa Florida without a low pitch roof, without a walk way across the studs/rafters, without a insulated attic, without crafting your own duct board plenums, without duct flex drops coming off the plenum/mixing box along with hanging the duct/ boot connection, without low volt tstat wire or float switch’s positioning, Along with best practices like nitrogen pressure testing and triple evacuation/vacuums, bubble testing, air flow adjustments, and start up check, along with high volt wire sizing, breakers, disconnect, and code checks like marking the unit info, and ahri/permit presentation on the unit for the code inspectors. This isn’t what it is like installing an air conditioner in Tampa Florida.
Remember their pro-pressing this stuff, so no risk of internal oxidation flakes. Plus their bending the rest so it's the same amount of joints before and after the dryer, so it doesn't really matter where on that solid run it is.
@@phalenmirabelli1566 when I say remember, I mean it as "keep it in mind". May not be a good practice in a traditional installations with multiple fittings, but in this set up, the protection is the same anywhere you put it on that liquid line.
Need complete install not just lineset 😂 and add in braze if wanted . Pull vacuum and complete start up . Go do the actual installs in house needing replacement. Then can even have commercial competition and service not just replacement.
I don't like Watching sports. But this is kind of thing I surely watch. Competition like this in other stem fields could be a begining of a more developed society
Yea I forget they also have certain rules too, which I would struggle with. It would definitely be fun in a room full solid installers to see the differences in approaches and all that
I had a hack saw in my truck for over 10 years just in case I ever needed it. I recently realized I’ve never used it once. I pulled it off the truck and put in the junk drawer.
I’ve been a Lead installer for almost 20 years, I’m going to win this championship next year. That electronic bender is plain garbage, the Hilmor compact bender is so much quicker.
Where is at least the suction line does not require insulation? Up and down on suction line vs let it pitch to condensing unit at lower elevation; my proffesional ass would say improper/ good way to trap oil in evaporator!
I hope they're in tight with a great sheetrock crew, because they're gonna be calling them every month with no pipe insulation. And benders for 3/8"? Get out of my face with that. I'd strongly consider firing a hand over that lol. All these fancy (albeit unnecessary) tools on display, and you can't hook them up with simple pvc cutters? Easy to install a line set in under an hour when heat stroke and stepping through ceilings aren't legitimate concerns. Bring them boys down here to Texas, I'll personally fix 'em up with a proper competition.
I wasn't aware of such a thing like compression fittings as I live in a developing country, not until now. I was waiting for the moment they started to braze to see some skills... I'm feeling like a dinosaur
EXACTLY! With my Hilmor Bender and my B-tank, I’ll become the next champion. I guess I’ll have to practice using that garbage bender and zoomlocks tools.
I’m SURE we do this EVERYDAY, using the garbage RLS / Zoomlock is a kids tool but it hasn’t been proven, too many steps that can go wrong with years to come. Brazing still is the best, efficient and safe way in HVACR applications. What Masters are you talking about? I got my Universal EPA 20 years ago, it took me 10 minutes of reading, that license is so SIMPLE to get is ridiculous. It took me almost 10 years to get my NATE Heating & Air Conditioning Lead Installer License, I have it now for 9 years now. 🤙🏼
What a joke. All they did was run lineset didn’t even insulate the suction line and did a drain. Not to mention pressed everything and some guys work still came out like dog shit.
Couldn't watch 10min all I hear is buy a power bender, stupid expensive crimp fittings. Real world competition is who can do it with spending the least amount money. Quickly without complaining.
As an HVAC triple OG, I would like to see the competition have real world surroundings like an attic with a low pitch roof and no walk boards. And the lineset whole is wedged in the soffet so you got to get a face full of insulation to run the lines 😂 Or put poison ivy bush or wasp hive near the ac 😂😂😂
i agree! they aint put these men through any real test!! try doing all that in a 180 degree texas attic then we'll talk.
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I'm glad I'm in Colorado wit very few attic's 😂😂
jus paid sme1 $100 to fight ivy of the hvac today for the fresh install 😂
Homeowners watching this will be calling HVAC companies "Hey, I seen these guys do it on TV in under an hour, I want one of those".
🤣🤣🤣
Well guess what, there’s 5 out of 10,000 lmao
Yeah you got it . That’ll be 1,000 an hour .
And that's why your system fails and you have to call them back.
Did not know there was a competition like this , this is sick haha
This is great for installers, but I'd love to see a competition specifically geared towards service techs.
They would just go sit in their vans while they idle 😂
@@Republican317🤣🤣🤣right
@@Republican317😂
who can change a capacitor the fastest !!!!!
@@joebyron9 Or who can troubleshoot, diagnose, and repair any number of service issues. For the finals, who can fix the installer's mistake the fastest 🤣
Lets add some brazing into the mix. It seems like its becoming the lost art.
Will never go away. Those big bulky tools can’t get into tight real life spots
@@goobermcgoobs7589 brazing is so simple how can u call it an art lmfao.
Lol this is interesting but also kinda hilarious to me. Got about 3 yrs in hvac myself.
I literally lol when the video first started 🤣 and doing hvac for 3 years too, no shi
Same I have 3.5 years
How do you guys like it? I’m going to start school for it as well
This was ok, but they didn't show none of the important stuff. No Leak test, didn't pull a vacuum, didn't do a start up, and not to mention no trouble shooting. Plus, they didn't put the insulation back on the piping. This system would never work properly. Ohh well, maybe they will add more next year.
Thanks , you just saved me 40 min lol
lol come on man, it’s a competition… it’s fun. Relax man
I understand that but the other competitions they did were more in depth. Kind of made HVAC seem insignificant.
Most like a plumbing contest.
I used to joke about the helper olympics 20 years ago. I want my cut johnstone.
I get bugged out when people are watching me work, never mind a arena full of people and cameras. These guys are good!
This is an install competition, The Company I worked at the Service guys did the refrigeration piping and Electrical work, Sheetmetal workers did the rest. Back then we had VICA/Today Skills USA I won 1st place in Colorado in 1981 went to nationals and didn't make the top 3 but our competition had Bending , Brazing, Airflow Readings, Electrical and refrigeration troubleshooting, and tested on all our safety and how we came up with our results. But this was cool to see.
what a concept.. i hope this gets bigger.. the technology and innovation showcased is inspirational to those looking to get into this kind of work.
This one of the coolest YT videos ever
How sweet I never knew you could make HVAC work into a competition show!
This is awesome😂
"WHAT DOES THE LINE DRIER, DO?"
This is soooo fire. I had no idea HVAC was like this 😂😂😂 I’m gonna go to all the conventions and events
HVAC is actually way better than this, your watching the lowest least interesting parts here, in my opinion.
Everyone saying they had no idea a competition like this existed, they have a pizza making championship too. They got a competition for everything 😂
that sounds actually kinda cool tho
I feel like one of the qualifications for this compitition should be hvac being your full time job. A full time plumber running pipe faster than hvac guys, who would have thought?
“Cut it out and use a compression fitting💀”
couldnt be me
These guys are very fortunate to have this experiance
Living in South Florida I’ve never seen HVAC technicians wear hardhats. 😂
It would be better with brazing and actually pulling vacuum, charging unit and making sure it starts .. still dope to see this in competition
"This is what a power bender does for you, helps you save time" While the guy waits for the bender to slowly disengage the pipe.... That thing was slow Af.
Doing this in Tampa Florida without a low pitch roof, without a walk way across the studs/rafters, without a insulated attic, without crafting your own duct board plenums, without duct flex drops coming off the plenum/mixing box along with hanging the duct/ boot connection, without low volt tstat wire or float switch’s positioning, Along with best practices like nitrogen pressure testing and triple evacuation/vacuums, bubble testing, air flow adjustments, and start up check, along with high volt wire sizing, breakers, disconnect, and code checks like marking the unit info, and ahri/permit presentation on the unit for the code inspectors. This isn’t what it is like installing an air conditioner in Tampa Florida.
And where is my thermostat and is it even wired up for my kind of system? Ac1, ac2, hp1, hp2, el1, el2, ga1, ga2, o/b, acc?
How many of us use press fittings for our refrigerant lines!?
We need a, Diagnostic's World Championship!!
They need to do a service competition with units that each have a problem and who can trouble shoot the quickest and install repair
I don’t know any company that would run there Line set to the rafters. They are creating a large inverted trap which could cause oil problems.
Is this a ploy to push for more HVAC techs?
This competition should be in Texas.
Liquid line drier should not be outside, always should be inside at the evaporator CLOSEST to the metering device…what it’s meant to protect.
Remember their pro-pressing this stuff, so no risk of internal oxidation flakes. Plus their bending the rest so it's the same amount of joints before and after the dryer, so it doesn't really matter where on that solid run it is.
@@ChrisHVACguy I don’t need to remember I watched the video lol.
It is not good practice.
@@phalenmirabelli1566 when I say remember, I mean it as "keep it in mind". May not be a good practice in a traditional installations with multiple fittings, but in this set up, the protection is the same anywhere you put it on that liquid line.
Which metering device are you protecting, inside or outside? 95% of systems here are heat pumps.
Need complete install not just lineset 😂 and add in braze if wanted . Pull vacuum and complete start up . Go do the actual installs in house needing replacement. Then can even have commercial competition and service not just replacement.
Yeah but change out a 100hp motor on a root top make up air.
Wow, don't believe I've ever seen make up air with a 100hp, on ex fans I have.
I don't like Watching sports. But this is kind of thing I surely watch. Competition like this in other stem fields could be a begining of a more developed society
So are we not mentioning the fact there’s no insulation on the suction line? Among other issues…
Cause buisness owner makes all the money and they pay less to their employees thats why people dont want to do trades
You get the knowledge to build yourself up, if you want!
3:36 no need for pressure test?
In what world do we not insulate the suction line
zoomlock, no insulation, good lighting, stable floor, climate controlled environment.. cake walk
How about the service tech competition? Who can find the leak and repair it the fastest lol
Watching these guys work makes me think that I could win this competition. No offense but I could
So it’s not just me? Seems slow for a model layout
@@marketmash6953 I know. Watching their hands fumble and their technique is what made me think that.
I think it's nerves from the competition getting the best of them, plus tools their not familiar with
Yea I forget they also have certain rules too, which I would struggle with. It would definitely be fun in a room full solid installers to see the differences in approaches and all that
@@ChrisHVACguy they’re*
look at cbs saving face. certainly was not on CBS television
I thought this was about HVAC tech, this is more of a Pipe Fitting Competition
This is okay but field is way different where is the armorflex on the copper t stat wire and they didnt forllow codes lol.
Euroskills 2023 Gdansk, Poland, competition 38 (HVACR)
Why are they using a hack saw? I have never used a hack saw for hvac.
I had a hack saw in my truck for over 10 years just in case I ever needed it. I recently realized I’ve never used it once. I pulled it off the truck and put in the junk drawer.
NEVER use compression fittings on soft copper. Only rigid.. and you need to clean the copper before you press it on. I’ve seen too many leaks already.
Felicidades para el Cubano
I’ve been a Lead installer for almost 20 years, I’m going to win this championship next year.
That electronic bender is plain garbage, the Hilmor compact bender is so much quicker.
lets do a pressure check next year
next challenge is fujitsu control board replacement for time
Where is at least the suction line does not require insulation? Up and down on suction line vs let it pitch to condensing unit at lower elevation; my proffesional ass would say improper/ good way to trap oil in evaporator!
This is funny it’s like espn for the trades 😂
I hope they're in tight with a great sheetrock crew, because they're gonna be calling them every month with no pipe insulation. And benders for 3/8"? Get out of my face with that. I'd strongly consider firing a hand over that lol. All these fancy (albeit unnecessary) tools on display, and you can't hook them up with simple pvc cutters? Easy to install a line set in under an hour when heat stroke and stepping through ceilings aren't legitimate concerns. Bring them boys down here to Texas, I'll personally fix 'em up with a proper competition.
This is awesome 😂
Those tubing benders looked like a waste. A manual bender can handle any size needed for hvac, they’re lighter and faster.
Mexican installers would’ve had that lineset bent and installed in 10 min
I keep hearing the word Tech but all I saw was Install work.
Looks good but I can still teach them
Espinoza is el tiburon!
Where my Hispanic at?
should be BRAZING
The trade shortage is a lie lol, the real shortage is journeyman, not apprentices.😂
Lol no one uses benders on the liquid line
cap you dont got the best cause my dad isnt there :p
No brazing, that's sad.
I wasn't aware of such a thing like compression fittings as I live in a developing country, not until now. I was waiting for the moment they started to braze to see some skills... I'm feeling like a dinosaur
EXACTLY!
With my Hilmor Bender and my B-tank, I’ll become the next champion.
I guess I’ll have to practice using that garbage bender and zoomlocks tools.
😂 you only say that cuz you don’t do that everyday day it’s annoying I can’t wait for my masters buy these tools makes it easier and safer.
I’m SURE we do this EVERYDAY, using the garbage RLS / Zoomlock is a kids tool but it hasn’t been proven, too many steps that can go wrong with years to come.
Brazing still is the best, efficient and safe way in HVACR applications.
What Masters are you talking about?
I got my Universal EPA 20 years ago, it took me 10 minutes of reading, that license is so SIMPLE to get is ridiculous.
It took me almost 10 years to get my NATE Heating & Air Conditioning Lead Installer License, I have it now for 9 years now. 🤙🏼
@@JohnHVACR 10 years for Nate but took you 10 minutes for epa yea that don’t sound right bub
Ptrap goes first then then tee
These guys are so slow its painful. How these guys don't go way over on man hours is above me
I would win this shit easy
What a joke. All they did was run lineset didn’t even insulate the suction line and did a drain. Not to mention pressed everything and some guys work still came out like dog shit.
I bet you none of these mfs measure shiiit when doing an installation off camera
I'm so damaged by modern society. I thought it was one of those... 7:75
No way u guys are this bored😂
Couldn't watch 10min all I hear is buy a power bender, stupid expensive crimp fittings. Real world competition is who can do it with spending the least amount money. Quickly without complaining.
everything they use has a battery! they aint doing nothing the hard!! how are they the BEST lmao what a joke
Well where is the diversity!? Especially for anyone who says they built the country
Americans will turn anything into a sport. Lol
Is this a friggin joke????! 😂😂😂 this is bad as the trojan games
These guys suck
A complete and utter waste of resources. This needs to be stopped.
How is this different to any sport, let's say motorsport racing, or any other?
I agree. HVAC should be banned. You want to stay cool. Build it yourself
Espinosa blowing off some Freon out his gauges?? lol
No insultubing on suction line?
Cool competition though.
fucking embarrassing a plumber beat us literally at our own game. step it up