Yea that honestly sounds sick... I wish they really fleshed out the world- I'd personally be more than happy for the story to need more chapters to do so but idk if I could say the same for other fans
Your right, MASSIVE potential, but it's not the focus, to bring focus to those kinds of things would ruin the pacing the story gege is telling, it's not important.
@@flaminak7894 To add all this, is to change the story all together. There's a clear message gege wants us to gather from the story and the moments that occur. JJK is heavily character driven, to add more than what is needed would add more problems to the story, secret monasteries, and more clans WOULD be cool, I ain't gonna disagree, but to do that, we'd have to make a brand new story. Things like Secret clans and having more brought up about the heian era would bring focus away from Yuji's story. Sukuna is also a huge focus, and when we do get taken to the heian era, it's simply for context. Because certain things are not in the story, doesn't mean the rest of the story suffers. In my eyes, Gege is a focused writer, he only adds what he thinks is relevant to the CURRENT story of JJK. His storytelling is not conventional by any means, and I can see the criticisms, but I simply do not agree. I see there's more here, and having more worldbuilding would make the story become even more of a mess than you think it is now. If you want good worldbuilding and a meaningful story, go watch AOT, its almost perfect. JJK is NOT perfect, but it still has something to say and for that I can respect and understand what gege is doing from a writing perspective, or at least trying to pull off.
The first time Jogo introduced and he burned the entire cafe full of people and there was not a single mention of it not even a passing news afterwards, is the first sign for me to not care less about the world building because it shows that Gege also didnt care. He made it that everyone aside from the named characters are side dressings of no consequences, even blatantly so on the Shibuya Incident and showcased a little too on the JJK 0 movie. Making the world more like a stage diorama rather than a fully realized world.
I feel like this is a problem with relatively high stakes "Hidden World" Urban Fantasy as a genre in general rather than being a problem exclusive to Jujutsu Kaisen. There are exceptions of course, but worldbuilding has never been the strong suit of this kind of story and in fact is usually straight up broken because you have to handwave away a lot of how the outside world responds to such weird and out of pocket paranormal events happening on a constant basis *specially* in our modern day current society as all it takes for the general public and authorities to deeply suspect that something isn't quite "right" with their world is just enough eye witness accounts and viral online videos spreading around the internet of bystanders recording "Weird people punching air while being tossed around by invisible ping pong rackets and nearby building walls collapsing out of nowhere for no apparent reason" with their smartphones and you are bound to inevitably at the very least have a very large number of people questioning their existence and quite possibly even forming cult-like organized groups together if things get to dicy. And it only gets worse the larger the incidents, colateral damage and civillian casualties are.
@@slippyfruit8538he worded the 2nd paragraph poorly but basically he means how the world outside of the main cast had pretty much nothing to it. No impacts on the world, no general direction with cursed spirits affecting the living world, etc.
JJK's biggest writing flaw is Gege doesn't explain shit until the minute it becomes story-relevant so it feels like it came out of nowhere. Also the characters don't behave like human beings. Gojo apparently doesn't give a shit about Megumi etc.
true but in the latest chapters itadoris ct coudve been foreshadowed in the fight against mahito with him being to touch souls so yea i think gege wants us to theorize on itadori rather than any other character(sukuna mentioning that he[ita] is from back then)
"The characters don't behve like human beings" THAT part, let me add another example, if gojo acted like the responsible, government paid, professional curse exterminator that he's supposed to be, he would've immediately moved to tracking down, finding and killing the disaster curses before they end up hurting anyone, but he just didn't do that, matter of fact all sorcerers (except nanami) let the disaster curses play on their own terms instead of taking the fight to them, something no one in their right mind would do, but if it didn't happen this way there would've been no shibuya arc, it seems that characters have to act unnaturally for the story to progress at all, I believe that's colloquially known as "asspull".
I completely agree. I’m a big JJK glazer, but there’s so much lost potential in JJK’s world and how it functions, there’s such lack in detail and significance
I agree, I think even restricting to Asia would work so much better, especially in other Asian countries with religion, culture, and population that high like China, India, or South East Asia like Malaysia (which is mentioned sure). For example China they totally Daoism, and India with Buddhism, missed the opportunity if you ask me
@@Kisuke258 Well, it's not a "flaw", it's an unnecessary restriction where you can expand the world setting to much bigger and broader stages. Especially for some of the other comics sharing a similar audience like Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece, Attack on Titans etc, etc, only Japan is not that impressive in the long term.
You're honestly right. Im even unsure how the crowd in the franchise, perceive jujutsu sorcerers? Like a regular emergency hotline? A gang of magical people? I'm not really sure
Same! Are jujutsu sorcerers governmentally recognized or are they just doing their own thing? That would have been helpful to explain some of the secrecy behind everything beyond "not everyone can see curses".
@@slippyfruit8538 In the Shibuya arc (when Itadori was chasing after Mahito) two regular dudes were questioning what Itadori was doing "A kid!?"."Hey, it's dangerous it's full of monsters over here" Itadori is wearing the Jujutsu uniform and crest mind you, and with that in mind none of them perceived him as a professional that exterminates curses. Which is why a number of Jujutsu fans and the video you just watched scratch their heads in it's world building and my follow up comment that questions how people really percieve Jujutsu sorcerers. The world is explored through the lens of its main characters and there's a lack of exploration on the world itself that gives us a jujutsu fans confidence in it.
Personally, I've always cared more about characters than world building myself. However, Gege also wasted half of his cast anyways, so I can't even defend the series based on that, lmao.
JJK's worldbuilding is one of the few criticism hills I will die on because whilst you can write explanations and excuses for the other ones, you can't really excuse just how shallow and small the world it. Nobody is expecting some One Piece 500 page level worldbuilding and lore. However: >I could ALEAST know a little bit more about the great sorceror clans >I could ATLEAST know more about the corrupt higher ups and how they maintain power/influence >I could ATLEAST know more about how cursed energy affects politics >I could ATLEAST know about this "heian era" that I constantly see being brought up (still no heian era flashback btw) >I could ATLEAST know more about cursed spirits and how they affect the entire world (oops! Gege completely wiped away that possibility with the Tengen barrier thing that's so AWESOME man! I love having the world be crammed in one area!!!!!!!!) "Gege doesn't want to make a long expansive story. He has the story he wants to tell, and will do anything to tell that story" First off, Gege isn't Shakespeare, okay? He's just some guy writing a battle shonen manga (a really good battle shonen! But still a battle shonen). Pretending that his story is the deepest thing ever because people get murked alot is laughable Secondly, if Gege JUST wanted to tell a plot so bad, well maybe he shouldn't have made a world that's so interesting to think about! Did that ever cross your mind?
boutta get nerd emoji'd but fuck it "still no heian era flashback" ... well TECHNICALLY (🤓) that one time yorozu got killed by sukuna was a heain era flashback good comment tho 👍
Gege is an interesting mix of talent and skill wrapped in an air of carelessness. He's clearly skilled and has talent that pops up from time to time, but there's a bunch of areas that are so carelessly handled like some deaths and worldbuilding that you can't tell what the intention was Does he not care or is he incompetent? I can't tell for sure, I can only guess
This is his first WEEKLY manga to be successful. Some writers need experience to fully develop and mature. It seems akutami is talented but needs to REFINE in certain areas.
I feel like many of these issues just plague the shounen genre as a whole. It's difficult to devote time to developing the world, the characters, and all of the little interesting facets inbetween when the editors and much of the audience at large only really care about the next fight and how badass the characters appear at any given time. I think that's why series like Hunter x Hunter and Fullmetal Alchemist are so acclaimed. They have the fights, the cool powers, and the vibe - but they also delve deeply into the world, the way the powers work and how that applies to ordinary people, and they still leave enough wonder and mystery to make the world incredibly interesting.
FİNALLY SOMEONE SAİD THİS this is the main thing i hate about manga's/anime's the world building doesnt have to be on the level of one piece but good worldbuilding is a must have for me you know a storie's world building is bad when fucking fanfic's go into detail about something better then the original writer of the story.
I agree! The Culling Games could have been used to showcase the powers of not only Sukuna but also other ancient sorcerers. Jujutsu Society was so dependent on bloodlines and power I can't see a reason why literally NONE of the characters knew about any ancient sorcerers. So many of them were so powerful the main characters should have at least heard about them and it would have been cool from an angle of made-up history vs the actual thing. It would have been cool to see the characters react to the names of ancient sorcerers that they know of or to be hesitant about a potential matchup between themselves and another sorcerer based on their knowledge of their powers. It also could have worked for characterization. Gojo was canonically a bad teacher so the characters that knew about these ancient sorcerers could be the ones with an interest in history, studied in Kyoto, or had another reason for knowing about the ancient sorcerers.
Thank you. I have the habit to think i am stupid when i think there are issues in the plot or worldbuilding, espicially in popular media. I just thought i overlooked something or dindt get it. It was with BBC Sherlock (back when it was popular and before season 4 came) and jujutsu kaisen. The lack on info for the gojo clan got me here. As i got older i realized that most of the time im not stupid, i just crave for more clues. The only question i ask myself is if the people araound me pretend to understand.
@@bruh-nq5pxna the sad part is yall expect authors to have Narutoish world building even then yall dont even like that W.B in that. imagine having to make more characters with more RIDICULOUS CURSE techniques with more clan members like bro i gotta make 5 gojos clan members who all has busted abilities so itll please yall lol na bro yall go make jjk fanfic and heian era?????? mannnn yall mfs clowned kashimo era YALL DONT NEED TO CLOWN THE HEIAN ERA as well
Honestly this is the best criticism ive seen so far on JJK that’s not just pure hating on the series. Massive potential just being let go by Gege there. I love JJK and hope maybe they’ll do a spin off just tell flesh out more of these topics. Heian era, big 3 families, cool fights with potential OP and more savage cursed spirits, more history on CG players and all that jazz.
As a JJK fan, blud is PREACHING!! In JJK the higher ups were the ones that were the most intriguing part of the story to me. Especially the Heian Era and the other countries, continents, etc. If Gege ever (which he’ll most likely not but, who knows?) does a part 2 of JJK like how CSM had a part 1 and 2 I would like to see him explore this aspect of his world. Gege’s story has so much potential that I’m praying it can reach someday (hopefully).
After season 2 of the anime and reading the culling game I came to the Lost of hope in this series ever fulfilling its potential displayed in the anime season 1 By the end of season 1 I was so convinced bought into the hype train of jjk after reading shibuya I was very optimistic about the potential of this being this generation hxh or something goated like that after reading the culling game I started losing hope and after watching the anime Shibuya now I have no hope at all I know this series won't be on that goat level alongside the other goat tier like hxh mob etc This is probably an upgrade on demon slayer and MHA which I haven't seen but I assume jjk is better than them but it's not on the level of the goats hxh mob op truly pinnacle of storytelling in general which also happened to be shounen
After season 2 of the anime and reading the culling game I came to the Lost of hope in this series ever fulfilling its potential displayed in the anime season 1 By the end of season 1 I was so convinced bought into the hype train of jjk after reading shibuya I was very optimistic about the potential of this being this generation hxh or something goated like that after reading the culling game I started losing hope and after watching the anime Shibuya now I have no hope at all I know this series won't be on that goat level alongside the other goat tier like hxh mob etc This is probably an upgrade on demon slayer and MHA which I haven't seen but I assume jjk is better than them but it's not on the level of the goats hxh mob op truly pinnacle of storytelling in general which also happened to be shounen
Personally I don’t think weak worldbuilding damns a story. Some of my favorite stories have little to no worldbuilding. I think the issue is that when the characters are tied so heavily to your world and it’s possible future, if you don’t develop that world into something intriguing then it makes your characters come off flatter than they possibly were
My absolute biggest problem with critiquing anything is people always default to “the problem is the pacing.” A story will almost never have bad pacing that isn’t a result of a deeper underlying problem (and this is what he is identifying in the video, a lack of emphasis on worldbuilding). Many people trying to critique stories will take a mental shortcut and say “pacing is the problem” and call it quits without trying to identify why the pacing is an issue and what parts of the story are underdeveloped. Stories can be fast-paced and slow-paced without being bad, but when your pacing is ruined by an *underlying issue* that is when you experience problems in your narrative. It isn’t enough to say “the pacing is the issue,” and it flies in the face of critiquing stories as a whole
@@crolithebard4964 I can agree usually but sometimes it really is just poor pacing. As you said, a story can be fast or slow and be good. It's when you notice it's fast or slow that is usually the problem. The audience shouldn't really notice pacing unless the author wants them too such as a calm before the storm or a sudden change to the story that usually follows with a tone shift. Sometimes an author gets ahead of themselves and can either try to explain the whole world through expositional character dialogue, making the pacing of the story itself ram into the ground or do the exact opposite and have non stop story but not enough context, be that characterization or world building, to make it satisfying.
@@upg5147 Your last paragraph is my exact point. The author either added too much exposition or did non-stop story. You can’t have a pacing issue without wither one of those underlying issues. The problems you described weren’t “pacing.” They either dumped exposition or didn’t let the story breathe. The side effect is that the pacing was affected. Again, a story with messed up pacing is the side effect of something else that the author did wrong. All you did was further support my argument
@@crolithebard4964 Like I said in my first paragraph, poor pacing is when the pacing is obvious when it's not supposed to be. There are countless ways to make it happen and you can say you're bored because of the exposition but plenty of works have exposition and keep you hooked. That's because of the pacing of said dialogue and of course the writing itself and chemistry of the characters.
I honestly really wanted to like the story, but there was always something that felt off about it. I think jjk has great potential but ir honestly stays like that, the author has great ideas but fails to execute them in a satisfying way in my opinion. My biggest gripe with the series is how gege loves to tell us stuff and not show us. It was really frustrating when they were pages filled with exposition about some power or some detail about the past.
I love JJK but I agree, there's a lot of wasted potential and its really saddening, dont know if its writer burn out, but man, what I would have given to see more of JJK's world and characters.
so like,how many special grade curses were there in the japanese empire during ww2 (they commited atrocities arguebly worse then what the yahtzees commited) and hiroshima and nagasaki after theatom bombs dropped.
I completely agree there is so much more that can be done with the world building. Different clans and their history, the much needed heian era arc. The jujutsu society with and how it works in Japan and international if there is any organization of some sorts or not
There is an interesting discussion of if world building is needed if it isn’t the focus of the story. Eva builds up a lot in its’ world only to rug pull near the end and say that none of it matter because this is actually a story about these character’s complex emotions. Would answering certain questions in Eva help build these character’s emotions? Not really. It’d only distract from it, and the state of the show we are left in is that the world building was a nice backdrop to the series rather than something to be explored. As a One Piece fan, I normally 100% agree with this video that there is only posatives to building out your world so ignoring any is a fault in the series…until I watched Eva. JJK is very similar to Eva where it sets up this massive world only to rug pull and say this is a story about these characters overcoming their personal curses. I do think JJK needed to expand on one or two things because they directly connect to character’s curses, such as Yuji and Kenjaku’s relation (specifically how Yuji feels about it, even if his answer is he doesn’t care), and Sukuna’s origins mainly to build up what made this man become the curse of strength/weakness on humanity (how he curses anyone who is weak). We could still get Sukuna’s but it’s a bit too late for it
Jjk has a lot of problems but it's still really entertaining to watch lol. Wish it would focus on worldbuilding though since Heian era and clan history would but really interesting, not to mention maybe different types of sorcery from different nations, it feels like the characters actions have no effect in the real world and only affect themselves and sometimes Japan, wish other nations would get more involved
We actually know that other members of the Gojo clan exist. I forget exactly which chapter, but it was mentioned that the other members met up with the higher ups or whatever after Satoru was sealed. So yea
It's really a shame because there's so much potential for world building. Maybe some people only want left right goodnight. But I want to know more about the world and the unexplored stories of the characters. Idk if it's in light novel format or a regular word document. Like sometimes things happen and I don't know why I should care because there's so little information.
I believe it started to fall apart is when Shibuya arc came in, in my opinion it was brought way to early, In my opinion jjk should be about Yuji learning to be a sorcerer in jujutsu high for 3 years, that would have given everyone time to get character development and get stronger, worldbuilding, and so on, because it felt like the old plot points, are for waste now, and characters dying too soon. In the final arc, with kenjaku and sukuna, the main cast will be close to the main antagonist strength or not weak , because right now in the manga, I'm losing faith in Gege.
@@HORIZON00236 Litteraly all the scenario is possible because Yuji is in first year. It is why the introduction of Yuta and Hakari are logic . Also the weakness of all the characters in Shibuya is the point. It is why the fact Megumi didn't master his domain and many shadows is logic . The 3 years should be for my hero academia. For Jujutsu kaisen , it would be useless .
yuta being alive with no consequences Hakari literally doing nothing having a family with urame and like only choso and gojo really died are the only characters we even care about and chapter 269 gege wants to drop some lore on new shadow style💀 this guy mustve wanted to get done with this shit already
I agree with all of this. It's frustrating that JJK worldbuilding is based around the bare minimum required for the story to work while everything else is left at the wayside. I would have loved to get a deeper look into how Jujutsu Society worked beyond being inherently traumatizing. I get that it's meant to be bad for almost everyone but I want to see how the different elements of the higher-ups, clans, and sorcerer history combined to create the present environment. What are the motivations for the higher-ups beyond being assholes? Did they feel that their choices are necessary? Most of the special grades the audience interacts with are friendly but also it would have been cool to see a look at them from a governmental perspective. Imagine running a government and knowing that there are at least four people in the world who could kill you and everyone you cared about in the blink of an eye and having to find SOME way to interact with and regulate them while still maintaining power and authority. Not even to mention the clans. TOGE is a member of a clan too but his impact in the story is borderline non-existent. More clan lore would have gone a LONG way towards fleshing out character motivations more. Gojo wanted to build a better society but I don't believe the present one was explored enough. Who benefited from that society and how? Did the people at the top just get money and power or were there other perks (like being able to make and claim dibs on cursed weapons, get secret knowledge, filter missions for loved ones) that came with it?
i used to use JJK as an example of good world building as opposed to Demon Slayer. however, as the story goes on, things feel pretty unexplored. and tbf, most anime have better world building than demon slayer
@@kaiproductions7639 The Demon Slayer organization has existed for a thousand years and every piece of it feels like it was composed 20 years ago for anything to make sense. In JJK, there are different factions working against each other because duh, this institution is thousands of years old with a history and people have different ways of achieving the same goals. There is a tangible history within the history of jujutsu and the audience is aware of that. I feel like the Swordsmith Village arc best represents why demon slayer is kinda dumb with its world. we learn that it's possible to make guns out of the steel they use so why is ANYONE using swords? Why are there no long-distance weapons? Wisteria poison, for most demons, instantly kills them and yet no one uses it? In an institution that's a thousand years old, there are no factions using their own methods to kill demons? It's all just swords and axes? In a group that's been killing demons for millennia? If the reason for using swords was as a result of a traditionalist faction, it could almost make sense but as the story stands, it's all just stupid. To add, with the rate demons kill at, they're still just superstition? The government doesn't recognize the Demon Slayer Corps? Why?? Everything feels so half-baked and generic. It's a fun ride but not well-written in the least
@@cyborgcuttlefish6326 most of your points are exceptionally thought out. I have a gripe with one of your points though. That being the guns. Nichirin bullets are extremely expensive to make compared to guns. As once the bullet is fired it is not expected to be reused. While a sword can be used several times before it breaks (unless you're tanjiro for some reason). I do believe the author should've added something to inform the viewer of this as for some reason a huge part of the fan base doesn't seem to understand how a gun works. Also jujutsu kaisen isn't much better at this either it has clans that we know close to nothing about besides the zenin clan. The groups work against each other for "power", but that's about it. Of course demon slayer seems worse at world building than jjk but both a relatively bad examples of what do when building a world. Side tangent: this more has to do with anime side of things, but wholly yap session man I love the animation and all but has studio mappa never heard of show not tell? It can be excused in the manga kinda man was it annoying during the show. Every other minute you have the narrator tell the viewer what is happening on screen. Like you know we have eyes right? Like that is the main purpose of your medium and yet they don't use it.
Not saying this is you but the jjk fandom is the kind of fandom to ask for more info on hein era then ask why the narrator is yapping and when we going back to the fight lol
Fair point but so far whenever the narrator yaps it’s literally only about cursed techniques like hollow wicker basket, which doesn’t exactly tell us anything about the heian era
2:09 this point really does not make sense. they already did. The show litterally implies and explains these actions, the higher ups are so stuck in their ways, however Gojo always disrupts their plans and their way of doing things because he can, he’s way too strong for them to control. And so the higher ups make sure that Gojo does not get unsealed, even if it negatively affects the world, so that they don’t have to be humiliated by Gojo and they can have complete control of jujutsu society. It shows how selfish the higher ups are and so on and so on. Everything doesn’t need to be explicitly explained by the author, use context clues
gege looks like me as a Dungeon Master when I just started playing TTRPGs, I gave a lot of plot hooks, a lot of setups for things that were to come, and never developed them or just kinda rushed through
6:08 I'd rather root (naruto) than the gorosei (one piece) tbh If you know, you know People in power don't HAVE to be powerful people. It'd be more interesting imo to see how they maintain the status quo w/o even lifting a finger I mean, they'll still be overthrown by a bunch of teenagers at the end of the day, at least make them nuanced
True, that's like expecting all real life world leaders to be buff dudes who excel in self defense. These people have a strong influence and positions of power, if they are afraid of other people taking it by force, they just hire bodyguards.
V can't just judge gorosei right away.. I have confidence in oda.. Their backstory will b interesting.. And tbf m i wrong if I somehow like gorosei 🥲🥲... They may have made some stupid ass mistakes but they still maintained the balance and peace for 8 centuries... There were no major war during their reign, no serious internal conflicts between kingdoms... That's impressive tbf
Yeah as someone pointed out here, there's huge difference between manipulating one village and manipulating whole ass world (especially a world which is bigger than real life earth) ... I find gorosei more intriguing, menacing and likeable (I mean samurai gandhi feels like a dude who can b rational and he looks really cool)
difference we get to see exactly who they are and what they do that makes life suck so much for the Good Guys. Hell we know most of the politicians names in HP, we don't know a single Higher Up on the council panels.
Most anime has beyond trash world building and writing. I think the only one where it is is very good is Death Note. I have yet to find a good well written anime.
I wish multiple countries were explored like Australia America England Africa india china iceland and some other like we had about 12 countries explored with 4 of those being explored exclusively in the culling games with the culling games being worldwide
I think the worldbuilding in this series is intentionally vague, since it's basically a societal critique. I think the message we're supposed to take away is "A bunch of faceless old men are killing us and holding back the potential of our entire generation. You know what would fix that? One group of crazy strong individuals who care enough to change it and don't mind being labeled monsters in the process." That's what I got from it, at least.
Actually the real question is how much world building do you need in a story to where it wont make the story turn into a one piece meme btw imagine if you saw a clan that might be special in to manipulating any form of infinity yeaaaaa i would probably uchiha massacre the clan my damn self as an author. Lol but y’all didn’t complain about that bc madara had yall in a chokehold
Maturing is realizing jjk is more plot driven than other mangas and animes. If anything jjk is more like a movie than it is show. Its not a flaw to get right to the point
Well, if anything, JJK being plot driven would actually further add to the reason it should do better in its worldbuilding since generally worldbuilding synergizes more with external plot development than with character focus.
@@mekingtiger9095 well like I said he gets right to the point with the plot and what he planned since the beginning. Nothing wrong with it. If I’m Gege I wouldn’t even make a sequel with the way these fans and even grown fans are complaining trying to discredit his writing. This fanbase doesn’t deserve a sequel tbh
Tbh I get a lot of the criticism, although Gege has proven at least to me, that the kind of style you are looking for, is not in his interests right now. Maybe in another series or at the end of the series we might get something. For myself, I sometimes get reminded of something like a fromsoft game. If you want more lore about the world, find it yourself. There are a lot of extra sources that Gege has provided via character guides or interviews where he talks in length about the world or more about the characters. Although I definitely get the criticism if you want that kind of stuff in the manga itself.
world building is absolutely not the foundation of stories, and idk how or why ppl believe this. Its one thing to prefer a lot of world building it another thing to declare this as some objectively integral part of story telling. JJK has a limited scope that focuses entirely on its current characters, everything else (including past eras of sorcery) is just background for its characters to operate in. And that is perfectly acceptable, whether or not you can appreciate that is just an issue with personal taste. For example death note limits its scope by also focusing entirely on its characters, the world building is limited if not completely omitted. We never explore the shinigami world, we never figure out the origin of shinigamis, we never learn of how one becomes a shinigami, the setting is just modern japan. And all of that is fine because the quality of a story is not in how expansive its scope/world is.
It doesn't have to be the foundation of the story. Nobody really care what kind of world in story like The Rabbit vs The Turtle Race, but when you already put interesting concept such as big 3 families, Heian era sorcerer being stronger, or higher ups that prevent lots of sorcerer to do something, but then didn't really explore it more, there's not much point of it existing other than being some kind of plot tools.
World building is the foundation of everything from the politics, power scaling and general environment. Given how the whole series started with Gojo and Geto hating how the current system works. Sukuna and Kenjaku want to bring the Gold Era back and how Sukuna talks about how Kaisen strength was better back in the Golden Era. The clans/ higher ups are the source of so many problems. These are important things and it was wasted because Gege did nothing with it and then they died of screened. The Zen'in clan was good but not the other ones. It's the body of the story and makes everything come together. Like the Hunter society in HxH, which is explored so well through all the characters stories.
I don’t rlly think any of the shadow governments that u mentioned from the big 3 we’re rlly that good tbh 💀 I would reference how the anime at least portrayed the zero squad
Gorosei are pretty cool, and Danzo is one of my favorite Naruto character. Gorosei are not the only shadow workers too, you can count the Cipher Pol too which are great as well, though we've only seen CP9 and CP0.
We only know of like 3 non big three clans and we don’t even know what’s going on with curses in other country like wth is happening in england you got the tea curse just killing people
You cooked lil bro but even Bleach did some interesting things in the world building department. A lot of it is unexplored but you can atleast see that Kubo had some concept fleshed out enough. Gege just did the bare minimum
I'd argue JJK does perfectly fine on the arrangement of its world. For the most part it's set in real world Japan, so there's no need to do woldbuilding for that because the majority of the audience live there. 2:16 The organisation behind sorcerers is very deliberately portrayed to be utterly rotten. The child soldiers, the execution of any individual they cannot control and the multiple underhanded moments where they seek to have a 15 year old killed without any official order represent really well the dark and cruel nature of Jujutsu Society, it's not even subtext, you're just ignoring it because you don't have a fixed villain to be the face of Jujutsu Society as an antagonistic force, but when a system is broken, there is no face for it's antagnoistic presence and JJK knows this, hence why The Higher Ups are faceless old men tucked behind screen doors, merely the mouthpieces for an old and brutal system that should been put to rest long ago, exactly like the real world. Who the higher ups are isn't important, the actions and environment of the system that they preside over is what matters, and JJK conveys that well, but it's apparently too subtle for some people. That's what the baseball scene is about. The principals vote for individual battles for the second day of the exchange event not because they love battles, but because it's tradition and what has always been done, pitting students against one another in combat, but Gojo votes for baseball. Gojo uses his influence to push just enough to lighten the atmosphere and have the students lead ordinary lives as teenagers are supposed to. I'm sorry if you wanted the structure of the JJK hierarchy in elaborate detail or a 10 chapter Heian era flashback, but JJK is written in such a way that it doesn't need those things and calling it's 'lack' of worldbuilding a flaw doesn't seem like a valid significant criticism of this story to me.
Not giving readers information about things in the world is not a failure at world building nor is deliberately leaving out information to reveal at a later time in the story. Particularly when these things are neither relevant to the actual story or will be revealed later on. You should never play a Fromsoft game. Gege wants a fast paced fighting manga, he doesn't want to spend 20 years talking about how the Gojo clan spoiled Satoru Gojo growing up. One sentence is sufficient. The fact the Gojo clan is largely reliant on the Six Eyes and Limitless user not only would explain their lack of presence in the story - but the necessity of it. When things can be inferred, they need not be explained. There seems to be a huge misunderstanding on the difference between a failure to world build and the story going in a different direction and focusing on a different area of the world than some might want. Ultimately, the three big clans didn't matter at all, the clans are not competing or vying for dominance, they are simply an existing power structure that is shown by the character's actions to be paper tigers largely dependent on individuals and their motivations and not clan wide objectives. Kenjaku straight up points this out when he reveals that he easily slid back into his role as leader of the Kamo clan and how the Higher ups are corrupt and incompetent. Also, the Heian critique is strange since that reveal is almost certainly right around the corner. Sukuna and Tengen are linked at this very moment in the story and Sukuna's technique has yet to be revealed nor has his "Fallen One" backstory. I'd say much of the direction of the story is dictated by three characters, Tengen, Sukuna, and Kenjaku, and since that is the case, their connection is almost certainly coming soon - likely via a Heian era flashback. This sounds less like a critique of the quality of Gege's writing and moreso a dislike of his direction and style.
FULLY AGREE, This take feels shallow, it's not whether or not the world building serves the characters and plot, its "other good anime have good world building, so other series should too" without understanding why the extensive world building in those series was important for that specific narrative
Yeah most people on the internet don’t know the difference between bad writing and just a direction they don’t agree with.They tend to blend that together a lot. The guy who made this video is one of them.
@@moonrockedif this is the case, y is fanservice considered bad?? Just because u guys don't like fanservice Or don't agree with its inclusion, doesn't mean it is bad writing. Right??? If this is the case, y does jjk fandom thrash on other anime's female characters for having fanservice moments and call them "bad" female characters (especially fairy tail female cast.. Unnecessarily hated)..
@@Youtubniummy attempt to correct his horrible grammar: The world building does not suck in jjk as not all storys must have the same kind of world building like in one piece or harry potter to be good
You're naming iconic shows, but you're not naming masterfully crafted ones. Look at Breaking Bad and tell me that despite not having all this fancy power system stuff, how do they still manage to nail every single mark on what a show should be? If a show representing real life can execute everything so carefully, what makes JJK any different? I find this argument flawed.
Adding onto my previous point, JJK should have more freedom when it comes to making more immersive world building because of how everything doesn't actually exist. Unlike Breaking Bad, it doesn't follow real life. They can add their own history, lore, whatever you name it, and that gives SO much potential. The shows you've mentioned also have their flaws, which is why I keep referring back to Breaking Bad, because it's almost made perfectly. The only thing I'd say Breaking Bad could've added was Better Call Saul's character development (in terms of delving deep into their character), and heck, those two shows were made by the SAME PEOPLE. But at the same time, it barely changes anything, that's how good I think it is. I hope you can see my point.
JJK isn't perfect, and in terms of world building it would be nice to see the dynamics of the Heian era and what preceded it with the potential 1st culling games. But beyond that, I think wanting more on the Big 3 clans, higher ups and general structure of current Jujutsu society stems from a misreading of the series. Learning more about the current structure of Jujutsu Society, frankly, doesn't belong in the series and is stuff that should be relegated to data books and other supplementary material. Everything in JJK's narrative Pre-Shibuya was outlining and outright showing that the Jujutsu power structures were worthless, outdated and that they would inevitably crumble and MOST importantly, wasn't worth protecting or preserving. The reason for world building is to establish the rules of the world and how it functions, which can then be used to establish stakes through what the characters are fighting for. So spending time on Jujutsu Society would be a massive waste of everyones time when Post-Shibuya; there is no Jujutsu Society (none of the rules apply anymore) and Pre-Shibuya, neither the Protagonist or Antagonist forces have any interest protecting it in the first place. JJK does plenty of world building Pre-Shibuya but It is all in service of demonstrating why Gojo believes it all needs to be torn down, literally every story arc Pre-Shibuya Introduces an important aspect of the world or it's history before showing why it's inept and underprepared for what's coming, which is also narrativised in Gojo's conversation with Gakuganji where he basically tells him and the audience that Shibuya is coming and Jujutsu Society will collapse when it does, then we get to witness it happen in real time...
Worldbuilding feels secondary in this story. The reasons for certain social systems existing, for powers existing is not the point. All we know as viewers is that these systems and powers exist, and we've pretty much already seen how they keep powers and the world of jujustu tight-lipped. Gege could totally put more time into world building in his story, I agree, but it's not the focus of it. It's characters are center stage through and through, and I believe overall it's more compelling that way since it requires more questions to answer. I think there's plenty of info in the story to get glimpses into this world as well as ask questions. When people have complaints about worldbuilding, I contantly think to myself "are you reading what I'm reading?" I understand having gripes and problems with characters but when you have a problem with something that is NOT the focus, it just becomes nitpicky to me. With all the info we get from ALL THREE CLANS we can make an image in our head, like you said a "vauge understanding" and thats all we need to ask questions and make images in our head. Like I said above, this is how I enjoy writing and reading. The story is simple but the narrative is so interesting, and with little to no info of the heian era, and the origin of jujustu, it makes that narrative so much stronger.
I don’t see how there’s a world building flaw Jujutsu High kinda….IS the world. Jujutsu Sorcerers are rare, and the students we get introduced to are like 33% of ALL the sorcerers in the ENTIRE WORLD with the other 66% just being people from the other clans which we already hear about What’s missing or being forgotten
@@RedLights9000-f3l and what about them? We get what they are about USA uses practical weapons and the military to try and enslave the Japanese people Miguel’s Clan knows about Jujutsu however that’s not the same as being able to use it. From what we see his village is definitely one of the less fortunate ones in Africa. There’s not a lot more to do with them besides Miguel himself. It literally took his people Decades just to make ONE cursed tool that literally broke in a single fight
I think analysis like this serves exactly that purpose Pointing out missed potential or questionable writing decisions in these stories- Or at least what you find lackluster or bad within them, and posting that analysis helps some passerby aspiring writer to be like “Hey, maybe I should do that/tweak this” or whatever. You can still enjoy something, enjoy ‘the point’ of jjk, while pointing out things it could’ve done better, like the worldbuilding.
@@dasanji90 But that's not fair. A majority of people will never make something but that doesn't mean they don't know when something is wrong or bad, like my example given (obviously absurd).
Everyone here... I'm honestly aghast, because jjk's worldbuilding is hundreds of kilometers above its peers. I don't... I don't understand. How can you come to the conclusion that keeping the suspense is an issue? It's called *SUBTLETY*. If you actually read into the various parts of the story, it is absurdly easy to actually get the worldbuilding. I'd understand if we were at the end of the novel, and none of the statements (like the Heian era references) were clarified. BUT! We still have a good while to go. So you know that I am not just talking out of my arse, example number 1: the Gojo clan. Gojo has an extremely unique personality when he was younger, being arrogant and dismissive of the weak. It is extremely easy to extrapolate the culture of the clan he was surrounded with just from that. And look at the clothes young Gojo was wearing. Extremely traditional, very expensive (all those fancy inks), and super soft-looking robes, while under a literal umbrella carried by a woman. The clan lived for Gojo. It's blatantly obvious, especially on top of the fact that Gege directly told us that Gojo's birth changed the very dynamic of the world and everyone knew it. These lines have consequences and meaning. And to be honest, that's literally all the worldbuilding we need. There are plenty of other things if you actually use your brain. Nothing is done without a purpose. The actions reflect the overarching worldbuilding, the worldbuilding is rarely narrated unless Gege wants it particularly in your face. Also... you do realize that the weakness of the higher-ups has been in our face from LITERALLY DAY 1?! Sukuna comments on it while in Yuji's body: "A hierarchy not built on strength is useless." Gojo comments about why he doesn't depose all of the higher-ups the FIRST TIME that Yuji is killed. It's not due to powerful sorcery or physical strength and never has been. Do I wish the higher-ups had been kept alive? Yes. I agree with all of your reasons as to why they should be kept alive. But expecting strength from them is foolish. Also, I do agree that sword dude sucked as a character. That one was just weird.
If you dont like jjk dont watch or read it,leave the actual fans of the show alone please This is meant for trolls who shit on something for no reason,not people who dislike some of Gege's decisions,yet still enjoy the show as a whole👌
Actual jjk fan here 🤞🏾. I would appreciate more world building, I really don't care if it slows down the action. Getting triggered and telling ppl to just stop reading because of a particular criticism is cringe, if something has areas it could improve in then that should be discussed.
Not only does the world building sucks, Gege also has a habit of making reveals with NO FORESHADOWING. Like "oh prism realm needs a minute of mental time" whatever the eff that means. Or Sakuna will pull something out of his butt to survive everything. "Jacob's ladder is weaker with 1 hand so Sakuna can easily tank it". Or "Sakuna can't use his domain but he can do anything with binding vows"
JJK has masssive potential for world building. Secret monestaries, heian era, secret clans, etc
Yea that honestly sounds sick... I wish they really fleshed out the world- I'd personally be more than happy for the story to need more chapters to do so but idk if I could say the same for other fans
Your right, MASSIVE potential, but it's not the focus, to bring focus to those kinds of things would ruin the pacing the story gege is telling, it's not important.
@@him5698 Bruh YOU missed the point. The story Gege is giving us is *mid* . Thats why OP suggested those plot points🤦🏾♂️
@@flaminak7894 To add all this, is to change the story all together. There's a clear message gege wants us to gather from the story and the moments that occur. JJK is heavily character driven, to add more than what is needed would add more problems to the story, secret monasteries, and more clans WOULD be cool, I ain't gonna disagree, but to do that, we'd have to make a brand new story. Things like Secret clans and having more brought up about the heian era would bring focus away from Yuji's story. Sukuna is also a huge focus, and when we do get taken to the heian era, it's simply for context. Because certain things are not in the story, doesn't mean the rest of the story suffers. In my eyes, Gege is a focused writer, he only adds what he thinks is relevant to the CURRENT story of JJK. His storytelling is not conventional by any means, and I can see the criticisms, but I simply do not agree. I see there's more here, and having more worldbuilding would make the story become even more of a mess than you think it is now. If you want good worldbuilding and a meaningful story, go watch AOT, its almost perfect. JJK is NOT perfect, but it still has something to say and for that I can respect and understand what gege is doing from a writing perspective, or at least trying to pull off.
The first time Jogo introduced and he burned the entire cafe full of people and there was not a single mention of it not even a passing news afterwards, is the first sign for me to not care less about the world building because it shows that Gege also didnt care.
He made it that everyone aside from the named characters are side dressings of no consequences, even blatantly so on the Shibuya Incident and showcased a little too on the JJK 0 movie. Making the world more like a stage diorama rather than a fully realized world.
jjk is just a set piece for Gege to draw fights and nothing more
You wanted character development for cafe workers?
ok its his fucking history so he can do it like that? stfu
I feel like this is a problem with relatively high stakes "Hidden World" Urban Fantasy as a genre in general rather than being a problem exclusive to Jujutsu Kaisen. There are exceptions of course, but worldbuilding has never been the strong suit of this kind of story and in fact is usually straight up broken because you have to handwave away a lot of how the outside world responds to such weird and out of pocket paranormal events happening on a constant basis *specially* in our modern day current society as all it takes for the general public and authorities to deeply suspect that something isn't quite "right" with their world is just enough eye witness accounts and viral online videos spreading around the internet of bystanders recording "Weird people punching air while being tossed around by invisible ping pong rackets and nearby building walls collapsing out of nowhere for no apparent reason" with their smartphones and you are bound to inevitably at the very least have a very large number of people questioning their existence and quite possibly even forming cult-like organized groups together if things get to dicy. And it only gets worse the larger the incidents, colateral damage and civillian casualties are.
@@slippyfruit8538he worded the 2nd paragraph poorly but basically he means how the world outside of the main cast had pretty much nothing to it. No impacts on the world, no general direction with cursed spirits affecting the living world, etc.
In light of recent events, us *_STILL_* not knowing who Kenjaku is only serves to prove your point even further...
We know who he is. He's that nigasan who got dunked on by Yuji's father while being in his mother's body. After that he gets lightheaded.
@@daeryk6424 Bro took backshots for the master plan.
*Unzips Jin’s pants*
“Ahhh yes, this is the only viable way my super evil plan can continue” -Kenjaku probably
JJK's biggest writing flaw is Gege doesn't explain shit until the minute it becomes story-relevant so it feels like it came out of nowhere.
Also the characters don't behave like human beings. Gojo apparently doesn't give a shit about Megumi etc.
true but in the latest chapters itadoris ct coudve been foreshadowed in the fight against mahito with him being to touch souls so yea i think gege wants us to theorize on itadori rather than any other character(sukuna mentioning that he[ita] is from back then)
"The characters don't behve like human beings" THAT part, let me add another example, if gojo acted like the responsible, government paid, professional curse exterminator that he's supposed to be, he would've immediately moved to tracking down, finding and killing the disaster curses before they end up hurting anyone, but he just didn't do that, matter of fact all sorcerers (except nanami) let the disaster curses play on their own terms instead of taking the fight to them, something no one in their right mind would do, but if it didn't happen this way there would've been no shibuya arc, it seems that characters have to act unnaturally for the story to progress at all, I believe that's colloquially known as "asspull".
@@abdobelbida7170 How would he go about tracking them down?
@@Kisuke258 six eyes for example.
@@abdobelbida7170That doesnt give him omnipotence. He can just see cursed energy resuidals and the opponents abilites.
I completely agree. I’m a big JJK glazer, but there’s so much lost potential in JJK’s world and how it functions, there’s such lack in detail and significance
funniest flaw of JJK's worldbuilding writing is how sorcery just only exists in Japan I guess, but this random african dude can use it.
Why did they even send yuta to africa? 😂😂😂
Fr tho that's so weird
I wanna see some malaysian curses
jujutsu is taught in other parts of the world. Yuki explained that japan just has significantly more sorcerers and stuff
I agree, I think even restricting to Asia would work so much better, especially in other Asian countries with religion, culture, and population that high like China, India, or South East Asia like Malaysia (which is mentioned sure). For example China they totally Daoism, and India with Buddhism, missed the opportunity if you ask me
Why is this a flaw?
@@Kisuke258 Well, it's not a "flaw", it's an unnecessary restriction where you can expand the world setting to much bigger and broader stages. Especially for some of the other comics sharing a similar audience like Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece, Attack on Titans etc, etc, only Japan is not that impressive in the long term.
You're honestly right.
Im even unsure how the crowd in the franchise, perceive jujutsu sorcerers? Like a regular emergency hotline? A gang of magical people? I'm not really sure
Same! Are jujutsu sorcerers governmentally recognized or are they just doing their own thing? That would have been helpful to explain some of the secrecy behind everything beyond "not everyone can see curses".
Did none of you read the fucking manga?
@@slippyfruit8538 In the Shibuya arc (when Itadori was chasing after Mahito) two regular dudes were questioning what Itadori was doing "A kid!?"."Hey, it's dangerous it's full of monsters over here"
Itadori is wearing the Jujutsu uniform and crest mind you, and with that in mind none of them perceived him as a professional that exterminates curses. Which is why a number of Jujutsu fans and the video you just watched scratch their heads in it's world building and my follow up comment that questions how people really percieve Jujutsu sorcerers.
The world is explored through the lens of its main characters and there's a lack of exploration on the world itself that gives us a jujutsu fans confidence in it.
@@Swiftkeyprotexter I have no idea why you brought it up but Japanese government didn’t know about the existen of sorcerers until Kenny told them
Personally, I've always cared more about characters than world building myself.
However, Gege also wasted half of his cast anyways, so I can't even defend the series based on that, lmao.
To me the biggest flaw in jjks world building is just the overall lack of explanation on how ce affects the politicts of ye world in general
JJK's worldbuilding is one of the few criticism hills I will die on because whilst you can write explanations and excuses for the other ones, you can't really excuse just how shallow and small the world it. Nobody is expecting some One Piece 500 page level worldbuilding and lore. However:
>I could ALEAST know a little bit more about the great sorceror clans
>I could ATLEAST know more about the corrupt higher ups and how they maintain power/influence
>I could ATLEAST know more about how cursed energy affects politics
>I could ATLEAST know about this "heian era" that I constantly see being brought up (still no heian era flashback btw)
>I could ATLEAST know more about cursed spirits and how they affect the entire world
(oops! Gege completely wiped away that possibility with the Tengen barrier thing that's so AWESOME man! I love having the world be crammed in one area!!!!!!!!)
"Gege doesn't want to make a long expansive story. He has the story he wants to tell, and will do anything to tell that story"
First off, Gege isn't Shakespeare, okay?
He's just some guy writing a battle shonen manga (a really good battle shonen! But still a battle shonen). Pretending that his story is the deepest thing ever because people get murked alot is laughable
Secondly, if Gege JUST wanted to tell a plot so bad, well maybe he shouldn't have made a world that's so interesting to think about! Did that ever cross your mind?
boutta get nerd emoji'd but fuck it
"still no heian era flashback"
... well TECHNICALLY (🤓) that one time yorozu got killed by sukuna was a heain era flashback
good comment tho 👍
@@zaroio2533 IMAGINARY TECHNIQUE: PURPLE
@@Sappysappster great argument
@@zaroio2533 we got faces. thats it. we got faces and names with no mention otherwise. i feel like im getting info ntr'd by gege
@@Sappysappster More like imaginary argument.
Gege is an interesting mix of talent and skill wrapped in an air of carelessness. He's clearly skilled and has talent that pops up from time to time, but there's a bunch of areas that are so carelessly handled like some deaths and worldbuilding that you can't tell what the intention was
Does he not care or is he incompetent? I can't tell for sure, I can only guess
This is his first WEEKLY manga to be successful.
Some writers need experience to fully develop and mature. It seems akutami is talented but needs to REFINE in certain areas.
@@DulKyoujiAnimeWell, couldn't he refine sometime before so he wouldn't f_ck up jjk now?! 😑
@@luna6691 I wish it were that easy friend. 😔
@@luna6691it’s not that easy, one day maybe he can make a JJK spinoff that’s even better than the original
He’s good at fights and power system but regarding character depth, world building and story he’s lacking
I feel like many of these issues just plague the shounen genre as a whole. It's difficult to devote time to developing the world, the characters, and all of the little interesting facets inbetween when the editors and much of the audience at large only really care about the next fight and how badass the characters appear at any given time. I think that's why series like Hunter x Hunter and Fullmetal Alchemist are so acclaimed. They have the fights, the cool powers, and the vibe - but they also delve deeply into the world, the way the powers work and how that applies to ordinary people, and they still leave enough wonder and mystery to make the world incredibly interesting.
FİNALLY SOMEONE SAİD THİS this is the main thing i hate about manga's/anime's the world building doesnt have to be on the level of one piece but good worldbuilding is a must have for me you know a storie's world building is bad when fucking fanfic's go into detail about something better then the original writer of the story.
I'm also using fanfiction to fill the void the story left me in. In JJK's case I don't think its a good thing. JJK started off with so much promise...
@@syedarizvi7290 tell me the names i shall read them.
@@Amanwholovesgood_stories69 well its mostly art from Pinterest. Sorry, I don't have links or names. But Pinterest is a treasure trove!
@@Amanwholovesgood_stories69It's mostly art from Pinterest. Sorry I don't have links or names but interest is a tresure trove to browse through!
@@syedarizvi7290yeahhhh, I'd like some recommendations too, pretty please!
Culling games had so much opportunity to tell us the lore or backstory of sukuna when ancient sorcerers were summoned but gege wasted it.
I agree! The Culling Games could have been used to showcase the powers of not only Sukuna but also other ancient sorcerers. Jujutsu Society was so dependent on bloodlines and power I can't see a reason why literally NONE of the characters knew about any ancient sorcerers. So many of them were so powerful the main characters should have at least heard about them and it would have been cool from an angle of made-up history vs the actual thing. It would have been cool to see the characters react to the names of ancient sorcerers that they know of or to be hesitant about a potential matchup between themselves and another sorcerer based on their knowledge of their powers.
It also could have worked for characterization. Gojo was canonically a bad teacher so the characters that knew about these ancient sorcerers could be the ones with an interest in history, studied in Kyoto, or had another reason for knowing about the ancient sorcerers.
Thank you. I have the habit to think i am stupid when i think there are issues in the plot or worldbuilding, espicially in popular media. I just thought i overlooked something or dindt get it. It was with BBC Sherlock (back when it was popular and before season 4 came) and jujutsu kaisen. The lack on info for the gojo clan got me here. As i got older i realized that most of the time im not stupid, i just crave for more clues. The only question i ask myself is if the people araound me pretend to understand.
Jjk fans are coping in the comments
For real I don’t think I’ve seen many people agreeing
@@jj6184it’s facts tho
I mean its more popular than your top 5 put together without it. Its kinda sad that we might not see a heian era flashback again but whatever
@@bruh-nq5pxna the sad part is yall expect authors to have Narutoish world building even then yall dont even like that W.B in that.
imagine having to make more characters with more RIDICULOUS CURSE techniques with more clan members like bro i gotta make 5 gojos clan members who all has busted abilities so itll please yall lol na bro yall go make jjk fanfic and heian era?????? mannnn yall mfs clowned kashimo era YALL DONT NEED TO CLOWN THE HEIAN ERA as well
@@showkage ..what the fuck are you waffling about
Honestly this is the best criticism ive seen so far on JJK that’s not just pure hating on the series. Massive potential just being let go by Gege there. I love JJK and hope maybe they’ll do a spin off just tell flesh out more of these topics. Heian era, big 3 families, cool fights with potential OP and more savage cursed spirits, more history on CG players and all that jazz.
As a JJK fan, blud is PREACHING!!
In JJK the higher ups were the ones that were the most intriguing part of the story to me. Especially the Heian Era and the other countries, continents, etc. If Gege ever (which he’ll most likely not but, who knows?) does a part 2 of JJK like how CSM had a part 1 and 2 I would like to see him explore this aspect of his world. Gege’s story has so much potential that I’m praying it can reach someday (hopefully).
After season 2 of the anime and reading the culling game I came to the Lost of hope in this series ever fulfilling its potential displayed in the anime season 1
By the end of season 1 I was so convinced bought into the hype train of jjk after reading shibuya I was very optimistic about the potential of this being this generation hxh or something goated like that after reading the culling game I started losing hope and after watching the anime Shibuya now I have no hope at all
I know this series won't be on that goat level alongside the other goat tier like hxh mob etc
This is probably an upgrade on demon slayer and MHA which I haven't seen but I assume jjk is better than them but it's not on the level of the goats hxh mob op truly pinnacle of storytelling in general which also happened to be shounen
After season 2 of the anime and reading the culling game I came to the Lost of hope in this series ever fulfilling its potential displayed in the anime season 1
By the end of season 1 I was so convinced bought into the hype train of jjk after reading shibuya I was very optimistic about the potential of this being this generation hxh or something goated like that after reading the culling game I started losing hope and after watching the anime Shibuya now I have no hope at all
I know this series won't be on that goat level alongside the other goat tier like hxh mob etc
This is probably an upgrade on demon slayer and MHA which I haven't seen but I assume jjk is better than them but it's not on the level of the goats hxh mob op truly pinnacle of storytelling in general which also happened to be shounen
Personally I don’t think weak worldbuilding damns a story. Some of my favorite stories have little to no worldbuilding. I think the issue is that when the characters are tied so heavily to your world and it’s possible future, if you don’t develop that world into something intriguing then it makes your characters come off flatter than they possibly were
What you really have a problem with is the pacing, gege throws away most things when they don't have a direct advancement of the plot
My absolute biggest problem with critiquing anything is people always default to “the problem is the pacing.” A story will almost never have bad pacing that isn’t a result of a deeper underlying problem (and this is what he is identifying in the video, a lack of emphasis on worldbuilding). Many people trying to critique stories will take a mental shortcut and say “pacing is the problem” and call it quits without trying to identify why the pacing is an issue and what parts of the story are underdeveloped. Stories can be fast-paced and slow-paced without being bad, but when your pacing is ruined by an *underlying issue* that is when you experience problems in your narrative. It isn’t enough to say “the pacing is the issue,” and it flies in the face of critiquing stories as a whole
@@crolithebard4964 true the fast pacing is still good if it write correctly but jjk..idk about that since there is a lot of plot holes
@@crolithebard4964 I can agree usually but sometimes it really is just poor pacing. As you said, a story can be fast or slow and be good. It's when you notice it's fast or slow that is usually the problem. The audience shouldn't really notice pacing unless the author wants them too such as a calm before the storm or a sudden change to the story that usually follows with a tone shift.
Sometimes an author gets ahead of themselves and can either try to explain the whole world through expositional character dialogue, making the pacing of the story itself ram into the ground or do the exact opposite and have non stop story but not enough context, be that characterization or world building, to make it satisfying.
@@upg5147 Your last paragraph is my exact point. The author either added too much exposition or did non-stop story. You can’t have a pacing issue without wither one of those underlying issues. The problems you described weren’t “pacing.” They either dumped exposition or didn’t let the story breathe. The side effect is that the pacing was affected. Again, a story with messed up pacing is the side effect of something else that the author did wrong. All you did was further support my argument
@@crolithebard4964 Like I said in my first paragraph, poor pacing is when the pacing is obvious when it's not supposed to be. There are countless ways to make it happen and you can say you're bored because of the exposition but plenty of works have exposition and keep you hooked. That's because of the pacing of said dialogue and of course the writing itself and chemistry of the characters.
🤓"Well, acthually, Gege Godutami isn't asking you to care about those things as they're not important to the narrative."
“ actually jjk is just a battle shonen. It’s not supposed to be deep”
I honestly really wanted to like the story, but there was always something that felt off about it. I think jjk has great potential but ir honestly stays like that, the author has great ideas but fails to execute them in a satisfying way in my opinion. My biggest gripe with the series is how gege loves to tell us stuff and not show us. It was really frustrating when they were pages filled with exposition about some power or some detail about the past.
I don’t have to watch the video to know this is false. The biggest writing flaw is literally everything
You had me in the first half, ngl.
I love JJK but I agree, there's a lot of wasted potential and its really saddening, dont know if its writer burn out, but man, what I would have given to see more of JJK's world and characters.
so like,how many special grade curses were there in the japanese empire during ww2 (they commited atrocities arguebly worse then what the yahtzees commited) and hiroshima and nagasaki after theatom bombs dropped.
You're asking the real questions
I completely agree there is so much more that can be done with the world building. Different clans and their history, the much needed heian era arc. The jujutsu society with and how it works in Japan and international if there is any organization of some sorts or not
Some places like Africa have curses or at least an equivalent. With curse users/sorcerers
I feel like some of these will be fixed when the series finished but damn gege does keep the readers wanting more
Meticulously crafted power stytem when there has never been a way to increase your cursed energy other then when you get a temporary power up 😂
There is an interesting discussion of if world building is needed if it isn’t the focus of the story. Eva builds up a lot in its’ world only to rug pull near the end and say that none of it matter because this is actually a story about these character’s complex emotions. Would answering certain questions in Eva help build these character’s emotions? Not really. It’d only distract from it, and the state of the show we are left in is that the world building was a nice backdrop to the series rather than something to be explored. As a One Piece fan, I normally 100% agree with this video that there is only posatives to building out your world so ignoring any is a fault in the series…until I watched Eva. JJK is very similar to Eva where it sets up this massive world only to rug pull and say this is a story about these characters overcoming their personal curses. I do think JJK needed to expand on one or two things because they directly connect to character’s curses, such as Yuji and Kenjaku’s relation (specifically how Yuji feels about it, even if his answer is he doesn’t care), and Sukuna’s origins mainly to build up what made this man become the curse of strength/weakness on humanity (how he curses anyone who is weak). We could still get Sukuna’s but it’s a bit too late for it
Jjk has a lot of problems but it's still really entertaining to watch lol. Wish it would focus on worldbuilding though since Heian era and clan history would but really interesting, not to mention maybe different types of sorcery from different nations, it feels like the characters actions have no effect in the real world and only affect themselves and sometimes Japan, wish other nations would get more involved
I fee you should do this for more shows point out theyre major flaws in one video and point out at they do good in another
We actually know that other members of the Gojo clan exist. I forget exactly which chapter, but it was mentioned that the other members met up with the higher ups or whatever after Satoru was sealed. So yea
So... effectively faceless nobodies.
@@daeryk6424 Basically, yeah
It's really a shame because there's so much potential for world building. Maybe some people only want left right goodnight. But I want to know more about the world and the unexplored stories of the characters.
Idk if it's in light novel format or a regular word document.
Like sometimes things happen and I don't know why I should care because there's so little information.
I believe it started to fall apart is when Shibuya arc came in, in my opinion it was brought way to early, In my opinion jjk should be about Yuji learning to be a sorcerer in jujutsu high for 3 years, that would have given everyone time to get character development and get stronger, worldbuilding, and so on, because it felt like the old plot points, are for waste now, and characters dying too soon. In the final arc, with kenjaku and sukuna, the main cast will be close to the main antagonist strength or not weak , because right now in the manga, I'm losing faith in Gege.
@@HORIZON002363 years before Shibuya ? Yuji was so boring before this arc.
Also all the scenario would be totally different with this
@@ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo shibuya happens in the 3rd year as like reach the half way mark of the story or close the final stretch
@@HORIZON00236 Litteraly all the scenario is possible because Yuji is in first year. It is why the introduction of Yuta and Hakari are logic . Also the weakness of all the characters in Shibuya is the point. It is why the fact Megumi didn't master his domain and many shadows is logic .
The 3 years should be for my hero academia. For Jujutsu kaisen , it would be useless .
Nice Analysis 🔥
yuta being alive with no consequences Hakari literally doing nothing having a family with urame and like only choso and gojo really died are the only characters we even care about and chapter 269 gege wants to drop some lore on new shadow style💀 this guy mustve wanted to get done with this shit already
Moreso title should be likr "Jujustu kaisens biggest flaw: its writting"
I agree with all of this. It's frustrating that JJK worldbuilding is based around the bare minimum required for the story to work while everything else is left at the wayside. I would have loved to get a deeper look into how Jujutsu Society worked beyond being inherently traumatizing. I get that it's meant to be bad for almost everyone but I want to see how the different elements of the higher-ups, clans, and sorcerer history combined to create the present environment.
What are the motivations for the higher-ups beyond being assholes? Did they feel that their choices are necessary? Most of the special grades the audience interacts with are friendly but also it would have been cool to see a look at them from a governmental perspective. Imagine running a government and knowing that there are at least four people in the world who could kill you and everyone you cared about in the blink of an eye and having to find SOME way to interact with and regulate them while still maintaining power and authority.
Not even to mention the clans. TOGE is a member of a clan too but his impact in the story is borderline non-existent. More clan lore would have gone a LONG way towards fleshing out character motivations more. Gojo wanted to build a better society but I don't believe the present one was explored enough. Who benefited from that society and how? Did the people at the top just get money and power or were there other perks (like being able to make and claim dibs on cursed weapons, get secret knowledge, filter missions for loved ones) that came with it?
Thank God someone said it!
i used to use JJK as an example of good world building as opposed to Demon Slayer. however, as the story goes on, things feel pretty unexplored. and tbf, most anime have better world building than demon slayer
What more world building does demon slayer need when we got enough of it
If you don't mind can you perhaps list your gripes with demon slayers world building? I'm genuinely curious
@@kaiproductions7639 for real, demon slayer is literally set in the early 1900's
@@kaiproductions7639 The Demon Slayer organization has existed for a thousand years and every piece of it feels like it was composed 20 years ago for anything to make sense. In JJK, there are different factions working against each other because duh, this institution is thousands of years old with a history and people have different ways of achieving the same goals. There is a tangible history within the history of jujutsu and the audience is aware of that. I feel like the Swordsmith Village arc best represents why demon slayer is kinda dumb with its world. we learn that it's possible to make guns out of the steel they use so why is ANYONE using swords? Why are there no long-distance weapons? Wisteria poison, for most demons, instantly kills them and yet no one uses it? In an institution that's a thousand years old, there are no factions using their own methods to kill demons? It's all just swords and axes? In a group that's been killing demons for millennia? If the reason for using swords was as a result of a traditionalist faction, it could almost make sense but as the story stands, it's all just stupid. To add, with the rate demons kill at, they're still just superstition? The government doesn't recognize the Demon Slayer Corps? Why?? Everything feels so half-baked and generic. It's a fun ride but not well-written in the least
@@cyborgcuttlefish6326 most of your points are exceptionally thought out. I have a gripe with one of your points though. That being the guns. Nichirin bullets are extremely expensive to make compared to guns. As once the bullet is fired it is not expected to be reused. While a sword can be used several times before it breaks (unless you're tanjiro for some reason). I do believe the author should've added something to inform the viewer of this as for some reason a huge part of the fan base doesn't seem to understand how a gun works. Also jujutsu kaisen isn't much better at this either it has clans that we know close to nothing about besides the zenin clan. The groups work against each other for "power", but that's about it. Of course demon slayer seems worse at world building than jjk but both a relatively bad examples of what do when building a world. Side tangent: this more has to do with anime side of things, but wholly yap session man I love the animation and all but has studio mappa never heard of show not tell? It can be excused in the manga kinda man was it annoying during the show. Every other minute you have the narrator tell the viewer what is happening on screen. Like you know we have eyes right? Like that is the main purpose of your medium and yet they don't use it.
Accurate considering the current events in JJK.
i kinda of want to do a whole write
Re write
Not saying this is you but the jjk fandom is the kind of fandom to ask for more info on hein era then ask why the narrator is yapping and when we going back to the fight lol
Fair point but so far whenever the narrator yaps it’s literally only about cursed techniques like hollow wicker basket, which doesn’t exactly tell us anything about the heian era
That's shonentards as a whole.
2:09 this point really does not make sense. they already did. The show litterally implies and explains these actions, the higher ups are so stuck in their ways, however Gojo always disrupts their plans and their way of doing things because he can, he’s way too strong for them to control. And so the higher ups make sure that Gojo does not get unsealed, even if it negatively affects the world, so that they don’t have to be humiliated by Gojo and they can have complete control of jujutsu society. It shows how selfish the higher ups are and so on and so on. Everything doesn’t need to be explicitly explained by the author, use context clues
gege looks like me as a Dungeon Master when I just started playing TTRPGs, I gave a lot of plot hooks, a lot of setups for things that were to come, and never developed them or just kinda rushed through
6:08 I'd rather root (naruto) than the gorosei (one piece) tbh
If you know, you know
People in power don't HAVE to be powerful people. It'd be more interesting imo to see how they maintain the status quo w/o even lifting a finger
I mean, they'll still be overthrown by a bunch of teenagers at the end of the day, at least make them nuanced
True, that's like expecting all real life world leaders to be buff dudes who excel in self defense. These people have a strong influence and positions of power, if they are afraid of other people taking it by force, they just hire bodyguards.
V can't just judge gorosei right away.. I have confidence in oda.. Their backstory will b interesting.. And tbf m i wrong if I somehow like gorosei 🥲🥲... They may have made some stupid ass mistakes but they still maintained the balance and peace for 8 centuries... There were no major war during their reign, no serious internal conflicts between kingdoms... That's impressive tbf
Yeah as someone pointed out here, there's huge difference between manipulating one village and manipulating whole ass world (especially a world which is bigger than real life earth) ... I find gorosei more intriguing, menacing and likeable (I mean samurai gandhi feels like a dude who can b rational and he looks really cool)
@@preetham9641no
Jjk is literally just Harry Potter
Cap
difference we get to see exactly who they are and what they do that makes life suck so much for the Good Guys. Hell we know most of the politicians names in HP, we don't know a single Higher Up on the council panels.
Yep JJK is cooked
Most anime has beyond trash world building and writing. I think the only one where it is is very good is Death Note. I have yet to find a good well written anime.
Terrible take
This issue is so annoying
I wish multiple countries were explored like Australia America England Africa india china iceland and some other like we had about 12 countries explored with 4 of those being explored exclusively in the culling games with the culling games being worldwide
I think the worldbuilding in this series is intentionally vague, since it's basically a societal critique. I think the message we're supposed to take away is "A bunch of faceless old men are killing us and holding back the potential of our entire generation. You know what would fix that? One group of crazy strong individuals who care enough to change it and don't mind being labeled monsters in the process." That's what I got from it, at least.
Ah, so sukunas' asspulls are INTENTIONALLY there to prove he is the almighty
That would work if the majority of the time is spent on developing on them shadow govt instead of the alpha gigachad Suckuna the almighty
@@aivreescend7945 "Suckuna the almighty"
I laughed.
Actually the real question is how much world building do you need in a story to where it wont make the story turn into a one piece meme btw imagine if you saw a clan that might be special in to manipulating any form of infinity yeaaaaa i would probably uchiha massacre the clan my damn self as an author. Lol but y’all didn’t complain about that bc madara had yall in a chokehold
What is your point
Maturing is realizing jjk is more plot driven than other mangas and animes. If anything jjk is more like a movie than it is show. Its not a flaw to get right to the point
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@@mrstrangeworld5977 you understand English ?
Well, if anything, JJK being plot driven would actually further add to the reason it should do better in its worldbuilding since generally worldbuilding synergizes more with external plot development than with character focus.
@@mekingtiger9095 well like I said he gets right to the point with the plot and what he planned since the beginning. Nothing wrong with it. If I’m Gege I wouldn’t even make a sequel with the way these fans and even grown fans are complaining trying to discredit his writing. This fanbase doesn’t deserve a sequel tbh
What world building everything take place in Japan
Tbh I get a lot of the criticism, although Gege has proven at least to me, that the kind of style you are looking for, is not in his interests right now. Maybe in another series or at the end of the series we might get something. For myself, I sometimes get reminded of something like a fromsoft game. If you want more lore about the world, find it yourself. There are a lot of extra sources that Gege has provided via character guides or interviews where he talks in length about the world or more about the characters. Although I definitely get the criticism if you want that kind of stuff in the manga itself.
world building is absolutely not the foundation of stories, and idk how or why ppl believe this. Its one thing to prefer a lot of world building it another thing to declare this as some objectively integral part of story telling. JJK has a limited scope that focuses entirely on its current characters, everything else (including past eras of sorcery) is just background for its characters to operate in. And that is perfectly acceptable, whether or not you can appreciate that is just an issue with personal taste.
For example death note limits its scope by also focusing entirely on its characters, the world building is limited if not completely omitted. We never explore the shinigami world, we never figure out the origin of shinigamis, we never learn of how one becomes a shinigami, the setting is just modern japan. And all of that is fine because the quality of a story is not in how expansive its scope/world is.
It doesn't have to be the foundation of the story. Nobody really care what kind of world in story like The Rabbit vs The Turtle Race, but when you already put interesting concept such as big 3 families, Heian era sorcerer being stronger, or higher ups that prevent lots of sorcerer to do something, but then didn't really explore it more, there's not much point of it existing other than being some kind of plot tools.
World building is the foundation of everything from the politics, power scaling and general environment. Given how the whole series started with Gojo and Geto hating how the current system works. Sukuna and Kenjaku want to bring the Gold Era back and how Sukuna talks about how Kaisen strength was better back in the Golden Era. The clans/ higher ups are the source of so many problems. These are important things and it was wasted because Gege did nothing with it and then they died of screened. The Zen'in clan was good but not the other ones. It's the body of the story and makes everything come together. Like the Hunter society in HxH, which is explored so well through all the characters stories.
I aggre
I don’t rlly think any of the shadow governments that u mentioned from the big 3 we’re rlly that good tbh 💀 I would reference how the anime at least portrayed the zero squad
Tbf gorosei are amazing though.. They r atleast competant and freaking scary(especially after reading manga)
@@preetham9641 nah I still wouldn’t even say dat it looks life luffy alrdy bout to one shot one of them niggas in the recent chs tbh
Gorosei are pretty cool, and Danzo is one of my favorite Naruto character. Gorosei are not the only shadow workers too, you can count the Cipher Pol too which are great as well, though we've only seen CP9 and CP0.
@@zxcvb3772 I’ll give u danzo and cp9 pre timeskip
still better done
I feel like their might be a spin off series like one when sukuna was in his prime or a time jump after this one with a whole new thing.
We only know of like 3 non big three clans and we don’t even know what’s going on with curses in other country like wth is happening in england you got the tea curse just killing people
You cooked lil bro but even Bleach did some interesting things in the world building department. A lot of it is unexplored but you can atleast see that Kubo had some concept fleshed out enough. Gege just did the bare minimum
I'd argue JJK does perfectly fine on the arrangement of its world. For the most part it's set in real world Japan, so there's no need to do woldbuilding for that because the majority of the audience live there. 2:16 The organisation behind sorcerers is very deliberately portrayed to be utterly rotten. The child soldiers, the execution of any individual they cannot control and the multiple underhanded moments where they seek to have a 15 year old killed without any official order represent really well the dark and cruel nature of Jujutsu Society, it's not even subtext, you're just ignoring it because you don't have a fixed villain to be the face of Jujutsu Society as an antagonistic force, but when a system is broken, there is no face for it's antagnoistic presence and JJK knows this, hence why The Higher Ups are faceless old men tucked behind screen doors, merely the mouthpieces for an old and brutal system that should been put to rest long ago, exactly like the real world. Who the higher ups are isn't important, the actions and environment of the system that they preside over is what matters, and JJK conveys that well, but it's apparently too subtle for some people. That's what the baseball scene is about. The principals vote for individual battles for the second day of the exchange event not because they love battles, but because it's tradition and what has always been done, pitting students against one another in combat, but Gojo votes for baseball. Gojo uses his influence to push just enough to lighten the atmosphere and have the students lead ordinary lives as teenagers are supposed to. I'm sorry if you wanted the structure of the JJK hierarchy in elaborate detail or a 10 chapter Heian era flashback, but JJK is written in such a way that it doesn't need those things and calling it's 'lack' of worldbuilding a flaw doesn't seem like a valid significant criticism of this story to me.
Holy cope
Not giving readers information about things in the world is not a failure at world building nor is deliberately leaving out information to reveal at a later time in the story. Particularly when these things are neither relevant to the actual story or will be revealed later on. You should never play a Fromsoft game.
Gege wants a fast paced fighting manga, he doesn't want to spend 20 years talking about how the Gojo clan spoiled Satoru Gojo growing up. One sentence is sufficient. The fact the Gojo clan is largely reliant on the Six Eyes and Limitless user not only would explain their lack of presence in the story - but the necessity of it. When things can be inferred, they need not be explained.
There seems to be a huge misunderstanding on the difference between a failure to world build and the story going in a different direction and focusing on a different area of the world than some might want. Ultimately, the three big clans didn't matter at all, the clans are not competing or vying for dominance, they are simply an existing power structure that is shown by the character's actions to be paper tigers largely dependent on individuals and their motivations and not clan wide objectives. Kenjaku straight up points this out when he reveals that he easily slid back into his role as leader of the Kamo clan and how the Higher ups are corrupt and incompetent.
Also, the Heian critique is strange since that reveal is almost certainly right around the corner. Sukuna and Tengen are linked at this very moment in the story and Sukuna's technique has yet to be revealed nor has his "Fallen One" backstory. I'd say much of the direction of the story is dictated by three characters, Tengen, Sukuna, and
Kenjaku, and since that is the case, their connection is almost certainly coming soon - likely via a Heian era flashback.
This sounds less like a critique of the quality of Gege's writing and moreso a dislike of his direction and style.
FULLY AGREE, This take feels shallow, it's not whether or not the world building serves the characters and plot, its "other good anime have good world building, so other series should too" without understanding why the extensive world building in those series was important for that specific narrative
Yeah most people on the internet don’t know the difference between bad writing and just a direction they don’t agree with.They tend to blend that together a lot. The guy who made this video is one of them.
@@moonrockedif this is the case, y is fanservice considered bad?? Just because u guys don't like fanservice Or don't agree with its inclusion, doesn't mean it is bad writing. Right??? If this is the case, y does jjk fandom thrash on other anime's female characters for having fanservice moments and call them "bad" female characters (especially fairy tail female cast.. Unnecessarily hated)..
@@preetham9641 9/10 times it's because it interrupts the story or pacing. Fairy Tail and Fire Force do this practically every episode or chapter.
Yes the Gege 's style. Not developp character or concept before the last second and to except readers will care about them.
The world of jujutsu has no glamour, and i think thats on purpouse
Sure another person who thinks jjk being the top 2 mangas right now is because he's correct and their opinion matters
the World building does not suck because not all world building the same example One piece and Harry Potter but both are still good
Rephrase?
@@Youtubniummy attempt to correct his horrible grammar:
The world building does not suck in jjk as not all storys must have the same kind of world building like in one piece or harry potter to be good
You're naming iconic shows, but you're not naming masterfully crafted ones. Look at Breaking Bad and tell me that despite not having all this fancy power system stuff, how do they still manage to nail every single mark on what a show should be? If a show representing real life can execute everything so carefully, what makes JJK any different? I find this argument flawed.
Adding onto my previous point, JJK should have more freedom when it comes to making more immersive world building because of how everything doesn't actually exist. Unlike Breaking Bad, it doesn't follow real life. They can add their own history, lore, whatever you name it, and that gives SO much potential. The shows you've mentioned also have their flaws, which is why I keep referring back to Breaking Bad, because it's almost made perfectly. The only thing I'd say Breaking Bad could've added was Better Call Saul's character development (in terms of delving deep into their character), and heck, those two shows were made by the SAME PEOPLE. But at the same time, it barely changes anything, that's how good I think it is. I hope you can see my point.
@@French-Star not all need the same type of world building
I don’t think that a serie like JJK really gain from better world building. Its so fast paced.
JJK isn't perfect, and in terms of world building it would be nice to see the dynamics of the Heian era and what preceded it with the potential 1st culling games.
But beyond that, I think wanting more on the Big 3 clans, higher ups and general structure of current Jujutsu society stems from a misreading of the series.
Learning more about the current structure of Jujutsu Society, frankly, doesn't belong in the series and is stuff that should be relegated to data books and other supplementary material.
Everything in JJK's narrative Pre-Shibuya was outlining and outright showing that the Jujutsu power structures were worthless, outdated and that they would inevitably crumble and MOST importantly, wasn't worth protecting or preserving. The reason for world building is to establish the rules of the world and how it functions, which can then be used to establish stakes through what the characters are fighting for. So spending time on Jujutsu Society would be a massive waste of everyones time when Post-Shibuya; there is no Jujutsu Society (none of the rules apply anymore) and Pre-Shibuya, neither the Protagonist or Antagonist forces have any interest protecting it in the first place.
JJK does plenty of world building Pre-Shibuya but It is all in service of demonstrating why Gojo believes it all needs to be torn down, literally every story arc Pre-Shibuya Introduces an important aspect of the world or it's history before showing why it's inept and underprepared for what's coming, which is also narrativised in Gojo's conversation with Gakuganji where he basically tells him and the audience that Shibuya is coming and Jujutsu Society will collapse when it does, then we get to witness it happen in real time...
Worldbuilding feels secondary in this story. The reasons for certain social systems existing, for powers existing is not the point. All we know as viewers is that these systems and powers exist, and we've pretty much already seen how they keep powers and the world of jujustu tight-lipped. Gege could totally put more time into world building in his story, I agree, but it's not the focus of it. It's characters are center stage through and through, and I believe overall it's more compelling that way since it requires more questions to answer. I think there's plenty of info in the story to get glimpses into this world as well as ask questions.
When people have complaints about worldbuilding, I contantly think to myself "are you reading what I'm reading?"
I understand having gripes and problems with characters but when you have a problem with something that is NOT the focus, it just becomes nitpicky to me. With all the info we get from ALL THREE CLANS we can make an image in our head, like you said a "vauge understanding" and thats all we need to ask questions and make images in our head. Like I said above, this is how I enjoy writing and reading. The story is simple but the narrative is so interesting, and with little to no info of the heian era, and the origin of jujustu, it makes that narrative so much stronger.
It was clearly built up to have world building
I don’t see how there’s a world building flaw
Jujutsu High kinda….IS the world. Jujutsu Sorcerers are rare, and the students we get introduced to are like 33% of ALL the sorcerers in the ENTIRE WORLD with the other 66% just being people from the other clans which we already hear about
What’s missing or being forgotten
Because gege introduced other characters outside of Japan the USA and china knows about jujutsu now
Miguel is African and his clan have a history too
@@RedLights9000-f3l and what about them? We get what they are about
USA uses practical weapons and the military to try and enslave the Japanese people
Miguel’s Clan knows about Jujutsu however that’s not the same as being able to use it. From what we see his village is definitely one of the less fortunate ones in Africa. There’s not a lot more to do with them besides Miguel himself. It literally took his people Decades just to make ONE cursed tool that literally broke in a single fight
@@RedLights9000-f3l I mean, they always knew. Japan just have more curses and sorcerers than other countries, due to Tengen barrier
@@М.О.Н.С no they didn't until kenjaku told them recently
@Planetdestroyer.138
Bruh that was explained during shibuya and perfect preparation's arc years ago
World building setting design 2 different things my friend
I just think that people who think too hard, to enjoy a work of fiction are missing the point.
If it bothers you so much, just write a better story.
I think analysis like this serves exactly that purpose
Pointing out missed potential or questionable writing decisions in these stories- Or at least what you find lackluster or bad within them, and posting that analysis helps some passerby aspiring writer to be like “Hey, maybe I should do that/tweak this” or whatever.
You can still enjoy something, enjoy ‘the point’ of jjk, while pointing out things it could’ve done better, like the worldbuilding.
@@rinamated5009 true, I was overthinking it lol
I've never agreed with the "do it yourself" counter. I don't need to be an engineer to know a screen door shouldn't be on a submarine.
@@upg5147 the point I was trying to make was... it's easy to be critical when you haven't created anything.
@@dasanji90 But that's not fair. A majority of people will never make something but that doesn't mean they don't know when something is wrong or bad, like my example given (obviously absurd).
Everyone here... I'm honestly aghast, because jjk's worldbuilding is hundreds of kilometers above its peers. I don't... I don't understand. How can you come to the conclusion that keeping the suspense is an issue?
It's called *SUBTLETY*.
If you actually read into the various parts of the story, it is absurdly easy to actually get the worldbuilding.
I'd understand if we were at the end of the novel, and none of the statements (like the Heian era references) were clarified.
BUT!
We still have a good while to go.
So you know that I am not just talking out of my arse, example number 1: the Gojo clan. Gojo has an extremely unique personality when he was younger, being arrogant and dismissive of the weak. It is extremely easy to extrapolate the culture of the clan he was surrounded with just from that. And look at the clothes young Gojo was wearing. Extremely traditional, very expensive (all those fancy inks), and super soft-looking robes, while under a literal umbrella carried by a woman.
The clan lived for Gojo. It's blatantly obvious, especially on top of the fact that Gege directly told us that Gojo's birth changed the very dynamic of the world and everyone knew it. These lines have consequences and meaning. And to be honest, that's literally all the worldbuilding we need.
There are plenty of other things if you actually use your brain. Nothing is done without a purpose. The actions reflect the overarching worldbuilding, the worldbuilding is rarely narrated unless Gege wants it particularly in your face.
Also... you do realize that the weakness of the higher-ups has been in our face from LITERALLY DAY 1?! Sukuna comments on it while in Yuji's body: "A hierarchy not built on strength is useless." Gojo comments about why he doesn't depose all of the higher-ups the FIRST TIME that Yuji is killed. It's not due to powerful sorcery or physical strength and never has been.
Do I wish the higher-ups had been kept alive? Yes. I agree with all of your reasons as to why they should be kept alive. But expecting strength from them is foolish.
Also, I do agree that sword dude sucked as a character. That one was just weird.
If you dont like jjk dont watch or read it,leave the actual fans of the show alone please
This is meant for trolls who shit on something for no reason,not people who dislike some of Gege's decisions,yet still enjoy the show as a whole👌
Typical brain rot fan
That can be hard when they come at everyone else when they just talk about literally any other anime/manga 😅
@@upg5147 i get what you mean😅🙏
Why are you deleting comments?
Actual jjk fan here 🤞🏾. I would appreciate more world building, I really don't care if it slows down the action. Getting triggered and telling ppl to just stop reading because of a particular criticism is cringe, if something has areas it could improve in then that should be discussed.
Not only does the world building sucks, Gege also has a habit of making reveals with NO FORESHADOWING. Like "oh prism realm needs a minute of mental time" whatever the eff that means. Or Sakuna will pull something out of his butt to survive everything. "Jacob's ladder is weaker with 1 hand so Sakuna can easily tank it". Or "Sakuna can't use his domain but he can do anything with binding vows"
This is aging like fine wine