Watching FLEABAG for the first time! (Season 2, Episode 1) [ REACTION / COMMENTARY ]
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"its a love story" lives rent-free in my mind for 2 years
UNDERSTANDABLE LOL
So glad this episode gets its own reaction. It’s a masterpiece
The writing is mind bogglingly clever!!
The thing with Claire for me (no spoils, but you ll see this commentary throughout this season) is that she is just as lonely as Fleabag and i might even say she is damaged just as well. Fleabag damaged because of her grief (mom, boo) AND her actions
and her way of dealing with it is to be open about it (in the wrong ways, but still)
Claire, on the other hand - is damaged because of Mom AND NOT taking any actions. She is displeased with everything in her life, but she is not acting on anything to be changed, hence youll bury yourself in insecurities, youre bottle up all your emotions like she says to make her feel happy and her way is dealing with it - is keeping it to herself and pretend that everything is fine. Which is just as sad of the way as Fleabag's
Oh absolutely!!! Claire is struggling a LOT too and I can totally see the festering, repressed pain she's harboring!!
This is an absolutely perfect episode of TV. It's like a symphony in writing and acting.
AFAIK this was the ep they submitted to the Emmys, and it's no surprise she won so many awards. Like it's SUCH a funny episode, but equally sad at the same time. It takes real talent to write an ep of a comedy that just takes place in one location and have it be one, if not the best episode of a series - esp when it deals with serious issues.
Ya this episode is a masterclass in writing that's for damn sure!
"His mother was originally a LESBI-" 🤣🤣🤣
The father never being able to finish a sentence kills me every time haha I love his awkwardness and inability to communicate properly and yes, he is an idiot many times but you still notice that he cares about his daughters and really tries (much more than my father at least haha).
And I think we all love the hot priest ❤️ right? The fact that Fleabag was saying that no one had talked to her in over an hour and he just then spoke to her says a lot.
This episode is a masterpiece, every dialogue is perfect, no wonder it won so many awards!
And responding to some comments I read about religion, I don't think that's going to be a problem at all. And I don't think you have to be religious to be able to enjoy this season because this is just not the focus really, I can understand the concern, I'm from a religious family but personally I'm away from that right now. But Phoebe will not disappoint you, I assure you.
Anyway, thanks for doing just one episode at a time, this season deserves it.
She's such a tokenizer 🤣. Her and the dad were so painfully real I felt so awkward! Lol. The dad is adorably inept. Someone said this is the first time he's talked to Fleabag since season 1, hence him missing her birthday. And like that kind of stuff is just awful. I don't think I can say that I think he's a GOOD Dad. He's clearly not sufficient. But then you see him trying so damn hard in his own ways and even though it doesn't come close to being ENOUGH, you realize he's not a BAD dad either necessarily? He's just... Inept. Because of all of his own stuff. Which isn't an excuse but it's life. It doesn't make his love and effort and less genuine. This show has such realistic characters I just love it so much.
And yes the priest talking to her right in that moment was so good!! I just love him so far. How straight forward and non judgmental he feels is such a contrast to the family lol.
I'm glad to have some reassurance on the religion stuff! I trust Phoebe but it was hard not to get a bit hesitant in episode 2.
And absolutely!! I think it'll be better this way!
One of the greatest single episodes of TV ever. I thought the first season was genius, and then the 2nd season was geniuser. Cuz Phoebe is a genius.
She absolutely is a genius!
He's IMDB is literally "hot priest"
That's so amazing 🤣
This is for sure one of my favorite Fleabag episodes. All of them together in hilarious chaos while riding an emotional roller coaster. Just an amazing episode!
For sure! The way PWB was able to perfectly display all their different dynamics all in one dinner/night/episode was SO clever!
@@KelseasComments yes! Phoebe is just incredible! Non of her characters are one dimensional and they feel like really people.
YES. It all feels so real it's CRAZY!
It's not the dad's fault she opened the gift at the table in public...lol, after all, it was meant to be a "bedroom present" whatever the F that means, but i'm definitely going to start using that phrase at the most awkward moment possible going forward in my life! 🤪🤪🤪
Also...you remembering halfway through the episode that at some point she's going to have a bloody nose...was great!
Lol true!! I never open a gift in public unless the giver is insisting and even then it's not my preference lol!
BTW, the waitress Maddie Rice, played Fleabag when the one-woman show was touring. For most of the episodes, a lot of the extras/background actors and even character/street names outside of the main cast are either the crew (I.e. producers, director editors, etc) or just friends of the show. This really is a family/friends affair.
I love that so much!!!
@@KelseasComments Boo is based on PWBs best friend Vicky Jones. And PWB and the actress who plays 'Claire' made a pact whilst at drama school to always help each other out through their careers.
I've always found it faintly distracting that the waitress looks a little like Olivia Colman. Not a problem, just one of those weird things.
I went with a few friends to see her in the Fleabag touring show in Leicester. In the bar afterwards, Maddie came over to chat with us, and was telling us about her family seeing it live for the first time, and being really nervous about how they would react to the sexual content of the show! She was incredibly sweet and down to earth.
I think the dads gift is quite well planned really. First it’s not actually for her on her birthday which would be a bit more odd but it’s just used as a vehicle like the holiday equivalent of “I was just in the neighbourhood”. He’s presumably not seen her in a while and we know he likes to arrange for there health in an indirect manner being the repressed Brit he lovingly is. He doesn’t say she needs counselling just that she could use it if she’s struggling and rather than being money which she wouldn’t spend on counselling of her own volition or a recommendation she probably wouldn’t take the voucher is something she could excuse as not wanting to waste . Also it is London counselling you know that session cost £££ . It honestly also just feels like quite a British thing to do indirect non insistent help is how half my family operates. My comment looks a little Randy I promise it’s not serious and we are 👍 looking forward to the rest of the series truly great telly.
Ya I totally agree!! The more I think about that part the more I think it was a really sweet gesture coming from the dad!!
That phrase -
"Youre not being naughty"
"Cause... It doesnt matter"
Is a great way to show even a deeper level of sadness and despair. You stopped making someone else miserable, you stopped self-loathing, you stopped having random sex that much (The fact that she said no to Hes so Good Looking guy is a tremendous character growth) - all of that helped her not facing the guilt that she has. And now she is doing a bit better, tried to move on? But that phrase - It doesnt matter - is showing that nothing will help her escape her sins, nothing will help to smooth her mind (like fucking in the first season) - she just get to live with this guilt and grief now - and there is no point in trying to prove that to others, it wont make you better
Yes that line was HEAVY.
Exactly that. It's sad.
i told myself i’d wait until there were 2 episodes out so that i could watch them back to back… and here i am 😂😂.
so glad you enjoyed this episode, one of my favorites of the entire show EASILY. and to think we may never even have gotten it! forever grateful phoebe came up with another incredible story to tell, i just adore this show.
i also can’t wait to see your response to how religion is handled. i’m not religious in the weird judgmental societal way but i actually do believe in God and it was interesting to see the subject handled the way it is. without contempt or malice. excited to hear what you think!
I'm really excited actually to see how the religion thing is handled. I was kind of hesitant at first but people keep reassuring me Phoebe won't let me down and I have full trust in her so now I'm not worried I'm just fully intrigued lol!
Awesome, as always. ❤️
Thank you my love!
Wait till you see who the councillor is! PWB wanted to have this person so much that I heard she waited ages for this person to find the time from their busy schedule and then they could only fit in some of the time otherwise PWB would have loved more from this actor but was thrilled just to get this time anyway.
I've watched episode 2 and have it up on my Patreon! I was SO EXCITED to see Fiona!!! Their scene was my favorite part of the whole episode!
FWIW I like season 1 more, so it does happen (the scene between Fleabag and the bank manger at the end just kills me). But they are both amazing.
Hey that's good to know actually!! And I agree, that scene was SO FUCKING GOOD.
Let's hear it for double negatives! Spoken english is colloquial.
Your expressions in this awkward dinner episode was chef's kiss.
Hahaha my face has a mind of its own. 🤣
This is one of the best episodes of British TV ever filmed.
I love theatre as television because I can't stand the crowds.
Some episodes of Black Mirror and Inside No 9 compare.
Agreed! Hill House episode 6 is up there too!!!
My favourite Mike Flanagan episode is Midnight Mass, episode five.
I haven't done Midnight Mass yet so good to know!!! (Oh and I just realized you said BRITISH tv. Mike Flanagan isn't British is he? Anyway, I meant episode 6 was one of the best episodes I've seen of tv in general I guess lol!)
the music this time around just takes the series to another level on its own.
and omg, andrew scott, yummy.
He was so damn good in this!!!
@@KelseasComments you should totally check up the clip of him in the graham norton show where paloma faith talks about having some "alone time" while watching him in the show hah, it end ups in more shenanigans ♥
For Americans, when she refers to Boots, replace it in your mind with Walgreens (or CVS).
Ahh I see!
I'm late to the party for this but I love that episode and your reaction!
I like the father a lot in this episode actually! He tries to connect with Fleabag andgiving her that voucher for therapy is actually amazing, I've been to therapy a lot and him giving her that is nothing less than a sign of love. He sees that she is struggling but he also knows that he doesn't have the skills to help her. I mean he can barely say a straight sentence lol
Also amazing is his reaction to Fleabag saying that she had a miscarriage. While the stepmom is trying to get the gossip his immediat reaction is standing up and saying "You should go to the Hospital.", he even kinda cuts off the stepmom when she asks if Fleabag knows who the father is ("No, maybe leave that for later.") and when everybody is just asking more questions without doing anything he just says "Hospital, now". He is by far the most concerned at the table and sure he isn't screaming or whatever but we already know that he is (just like Claire) bad at socializing.
It's easy to see him as a weak person, who doesn't stand up for his daughters, but he's amazing and very loving, even though it's difficult for him.
So glad you're enjoying!! And ya, the dad bugged me at first so I was harsh for a bit but he totally ends up winning me over. You're totally right in everything you said! He tries his best and I love him so much.
I don't know if I commented on the last two episodes. Maybe not.
For me, season 1 ends with a feeling of unease. It's only halftime and even though the help comes from sometimes unexpected people (the banker - I really love this strange relationship), the fact is that her father is unable to express himself and her mother-in-law is a real bitch. The fact that her father is unable to say finish her sentences is a very visual way of showing how difficult parents can be to be understood by their children (and vice versa). Yet I love all these people, because they are perfectly imperfect in their humanities and their feelings, which makes them endearing, even the worst, because they are not defined solely by their qualities or their faults. They are complex, without exception. That's why Claire chooses to "believe" her husband (because that calls too many things into question, because it's easier to run away from happiness than to give in to it, because she does not want to abandon her family etc…).
And so, season 2 (because I'm supposed to comment on that lol).
Clearly season 1 is very good. Season two is also but I'm not sure what to say it's "better". Let's say it's different (more mainstream in a way), tackling other things while continuing what's been left hanging. That it completes the cycle in a very particular but almost fantastic way (you will see)
“This is a love story”, she says with a bloody face and that it reminds me so much the spirit of KE! It's so "same" and at the same time very different but we understand better thanks to this season how PWB thinks and what it wanted to do with KE (the tone of the show, the plots, the relationships between the characters etc... and I'm not even talking about the ending!) But it's also a love story in the broad sense, not just romantic. It is the love between friends, sisters, parents. This will be the theme of this second season.
The first episode starts very strong and quickly gets us back into the swing of things with its quirky but always appropriate touch of humor (I love the fake death of the father xD), the relationship between sister (and yes you guessed it for the “pregnant” thing) and this new character who slowly fits into fleabag's life (and again, a nod to KE, "the hot priest" versus the "hot" Villanelle in red or white in a church, all this history of religion, of sin…) and that she has just met. I love Andrew Scott by the way. Fleabag's on-camera commentary is still great. I really laughed a lot in this episode. We quickly understand that all the main character's old relationships will once again be explored, whether with her father (who is simply a "nice" and very clumsy man), her mother-in-law (I love the actress but the character makes me sick), her brother-in-law (no comment) and of course her sister. The miscarriage scene is treated in a surprising way, but in a good way. I know several friends who have experienced this and who have reacted somewhat the same way. This strange way of seeming to accept but not wanting to confront, not wanting to talk about it, as if it didn't matter when clearly it did. It puts a lot of things into perspective. It shows fleabag's devotion to Claire, Claire's fears in general. Very interesting.
Can't wait for you to watch the next one.
The miscarriage scene was exceptional!!! Thanks for your wonderful comment as always!!!
Hot Priest has arrived!
He's the best man in this show so far. I adore him.
what headphone do you wear?
YASSSS
🥰🥰🥰
I have certain feelings towards theie family. Of course Claire and Fleebag will inevitably talk about the kiss. And when the time comes remember that neither the father nor sister checked in on her in over a year. Her birthday and christmas was not a reason for them to talk, and then he shows up to gift her a counseling session all so that he doesn't have to put in any work himself?! He is troubled and spineless, but he is also a shitty father. I mean, Fleebag WAS about to try and kill herself. They all suck, but that is kinda what the show is about, I think, people suck and here's why and try to love them anyway
I couldn't agree more. It's such a rollercoaster trying to process everything. I can see that the dad loves his daughters and tries really hard in his own way, but everything you said is what gets me so mad. The fact that he didn't talk to her in so long, even over her birthday, is disgusting. I love how you ended your comment though. People suck and here's why and you should try to love them anyway .. perfect.
Martin really goes into overdrive on being absolutely awful in this one, he really overtakes the stepmother as the worst character (the dad barely even competes, he’s just a weak pathetic man, but he doesn’t enjoy making people feel uncomfortable or small)
Totally agreed! He really ended up sucking so bad!
Just here to say I like Season 1 better
I did too in a lot of ways!! I loved season 2 as far as seeing the culmination of everyone's growth leading to amazing relationship developments. But aside from that, I liked season 1 better as far as theme and stuff. But I think they're both really strong seasons! The development we see in Fleabag's relationships with her sister and dad in season 2 was so satisfying to watch!!
@@KelseasComments That's pretty much my exact thoughts. I love both seasons, Phoebe is a genius but I just feel S1 is more complete as a season.
Totally get that!
0:20 Ok I still like season 1 better. Reason is simple: I can care less about religion related issues, I'm 100 percent atheist.
Wait, 100 percent sounds a bit extreme...
Am I not totally atheist? Now I think of it...
Can u still call yourself an atheist when u r not 100 percent atheist?
Ya.. I actually mention at the end of episode 2 that I'm feeling a bit hesitant about the religion aspect. I'd say I'm agnostic but spiritual? I don't know what I am. But I definitely am not a big fan of churches and organized religion and have plenty of religious trauma from growing up lesbian in the LDS church... AND I'm already scarred from KE season 4. So I do get a bit hesitant after episode 2. Hoping this season isn't all about Fleabag "finding God" or something. But I trust Phoebe... So I'm trying to stay open minded all the way through!
@@KelseasComments Spiritual is how Scott describes his relationship with Fleabag.
Is Scott the priest? I already forgot his name. 🤣
@@KelseasComments no need to worry about that ;-)