@@Lusowrath I actually managed to win the latest model in an AimLab event lol. I hope it’ll be better in every way as you said, at least now when qc is a bit stricter.
That price for the rvu is a good deal Btw but it all depends on your grip style , hand size and which shape do you think is most comfortable for your hands. Just because the orochi V2 is higher ranked on the list, doesn't necessarily mean it's better for you.
Bought roccat, my does the scroll wheel thing as well, but not terrible, just have to be light on the wheel , but it replaced viper ultimate, just way better feel in my hand.
i very recently got my viper ultimate for $70 from amazon warehouse, feels just fine and arrived virtually brand new besides the packaging being a big worse for wear - probably the best deal i’ve ever gotten
G203 has one of the best sensors Best weight and nice wire but it's rubber but feels light Only demerits is its scroll wheel Looks sexy in white colour
you could very well prefer the og gpw to the viper ult but i think it is useless to buy an og gpw when the superlight is so much better and not a massive price increase
I don't understand one thing in my country like literally all electronics especially gpus were and still are overpriced af but gpw (lightspeed) regular price is around 90€ I've recently found it for 70€ in discount with 2 years warranty I don't understand it
I guess the battery on the orochi also prolongs the age of the mouse as there is no internal battery that can die. That's a big advantage imo If u change a battery each 2 months then who cares if it's rechargable or not.
got my Achilles yesterday. From 1 month of use on zy's rail, I really feel the shape is odd but I gotta adjust. The weight is just.... sooo good, is the 1st mouse I get I wont mod.
@@Bhrazz ahh. Good ole Memphis. I live 5 minutes from Memphis and I had a package sit in their facility for about 7 days before it was out for delivery.
Is it normal for gpro X superlight to have super light left clicks? It sometimes shoots 2-3 bullets when I try to 1 tap. No double clicking issues according to some online tests. I just don't know what it is might have to rma or just go back to my heavy ass ec2a
my only problem with final mouse have been the click button height, because they are so far down and I suppose my haands are big I lose a lot of stability in my shots especially rapid ones with the press travail distance, while palm gripping, I just ordered a logi ultralight so this will be my first logi mouse in probably 20 years. Hopefully it goes well I know logitech software is a pos and no dpi button is going to tilt me.
im very curious as to what would someone say if they have never heard of the gpx and you gave it to them and telling them its a 70 dollar mouse, i think that would eliminate somes bias since we give more value to priciser things, its why supreme etc is so pupular
Maybe a best wired mouse tier list idk some people are scared of wireless for some reason so maybe they would like that I personally use the g pro super light but before I was using the xm1r and I loved it for what it was
Same. I'm trying to hold out on buying a new mouse because I'm waiting for it to release, but my current mouse's feet and wearing off and all three clicks (even the middle click) are having double click issues, so it's making it hard to wait.
In regards to the KPA scroll wheel click, mine is also extremely easy to click. I use scroll for jump and scroll wheel click for spray in val and almost always hit it when bhopping. I feel like it isn't qc just bad implementation.
Also KPA is my main for a while. Until they do a KPA v2 with mechanical switches or new batches with better opticals. Always easy to pull a recommendation from you bc we have the same sized hands-ish 20x11.5
got my starlight 12, bottom flex just as bad as model o, dont like the small shape (I would like medium better) clicks feel amazing side buttons amazing scroll wheel amazing, and feet scratchy as hell, I like the gpx better
I have these for my ul2 and they're great if you can't do holes on the sides, they're thin but a little squishy though, and after a day I could start to see and feel the holes through the tape with my monkey grip strength. Also they don't come with a top, so the mouse will feel wider but not taller, felt a little incomplete to me there.
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should i make a top 5 overall mouse list or would it be pointless? Updated tier list? Wireless mouse tier list? Lmk besties
tier list
An updated overall mouse list would be nice ig. Also, is the rvm still worth getting?
Yes top 5 that includes wired and wireless
tier list
yes, do it but never call me bestie again or im unsubbing on twitch and youtube
One major flaw of the starlight-12 is that it doesn’t have usb-c. It is scientifically proven that usb-c makes your mouse at least 40% better
I have one on the way but I think it's going in the trash after hearing this :/
@@fresca4008 its a joke lmfaooo
U probably don’t have one
@@jasonliu1911 people like you who don't take usb-c seriously fucking disgust me
@@jasonliu1911 that was obviously a joke as well........
that water looking extra crispy in the back
humid as hail
@@boardzy does it glide well?
@@ashgarg3522 water hyperglides lmao
Those grip tapes are like buying a brand new mercedes and then putting stickers on it
Man i do this to stop getting "ew holes" comments and now i get "ew griptape" comments i swear i cant win
just like lightning mcqueen
@@boardzy goons must slander everything on a mouse
shut up yie
@@tarunsuresh3605 no
Razer needs a viper v2 with the switches the orochi uses. No right hand buttons, 60-68 grams, and bigger side buttons. Would be an insane mouse.
True
How about viper mini ultimate with orochi switches at 58g, sweet!
I don't agree with no right side buttons
Holy shit i would love that, maybe also tweak the scroll wheel a bit to though? idk i feel like its a bit to rough and rigid
this..
my gender is mouse feet, sexual orientation is ergosexual and pronouns are mouse/philic
we all know the trackball mouse is the best mouse to ever be created
Trackball >= Hello Kitty Mouse. Is your pfp Rimiru from Tensei shitara Slime?
@@neil5679 yeah yup, right after he became demon lord rimuru i think
@@SH0R7xD oo that’s cool, I’m thinking of starting it
@@neil5679 do it.
@@SH0R7xD bet, im catching up on Vinland saga manga and mushoku tensei then I will. I hear Rimiru is super strong
Video suggestion:
Starlight 12 Vs Ultralight 2?
”Does the increase in price justify the greatness that is the starlight?”
Nope just a another fancy thing to have
@@trashtronics1700 The starlight 12 is a step above in literally every category
Maybe yours
@@Lusowrath I actually managed to win the latest model in an AimLab event lol.
I hope it’ll be better in every way as you said, at least now when qc is a bit stricter.
@The_Rock_That_Floats ooh congrats congrats. Good luck
Boardzy, thanks for your honest and straight to the point reviews, it was because of this that I bought my Orochi V2 and its fits my hands perfectly
whats better orochi v2 or mz1
Orochi v2, wireless always the best
is the normal kone pro good too or is it just the air because i have the normal wired one but i dont have the wireless one... just wondering
I would love nothing more than to just be able to buy one of these damned Finalmice.
Would you recommend putting the ptfe puck on or off
What is the best mouse for palm grip
What do you think of transitioning from xm1 v2 to orochi v2?
Orochi is kinda small everyone's says
So check it's size before buying
Very good sensor tho
Can u choose 1, prefer ec-2 or gpro superlight ?
what is the mouse pad?
I got the startlight 12 red small and is like 5 years ahead of the best mice rn, stupid using a plastic mice at this point
Nice to see u enjoying it !
Ok Felipe thanks for not mentioning the availability 🙂
Why. “My skin knows it’s metal and it makes me aim better!”
The starlight is superior. Conspicuous consumption is my guide.
what mousepad are you using?
do you recommend any mouse pads? i need a better one lol
Will subtitles option be in your channel? My English isnt that good but it easier for me to understand when i read
What language do you speak? I can try to put automatic subtitles for English in future vids
@@boardzy some of ur vids have auto english subtitles and i find that easier to understand you as a non english speaker
Which Artisan mousepad is best for Fortnite????
I like the hien
@@boardzy But isn't the X and Y difference gonna fuck it up?
@@hoppebold0237 no
@@kastlet405 bad aim and how does it feel to use it?
@BertonesTV The Otsu does have the x and y difference. But just less. But how's the quality. I've heard that the quality on the otsu is bad?
Is glorious model o wireless worth?
No
from my eperience no, scroll wheel is shit and the holes make me fucking angry, clicks are orgasmic though
hey boardzy, what wireless would you recommend for 131 claw grip? my current mouse is the g103/203
G305 is the natural recommendation if you already like the shape a lot
Get gpro wireless it has good rgb
You won't find much difference Becuz g203/102 is very same to g pro wireless except the weight
G 203 is also very good
Best under 50$ mouse id say
not a relevant question but why dont you try benq xl2546k monitor for your gaming?
How does boardzy feel after missing the Hati S Wireless in this? Even as an honorable mention?
Trash mouse with worse availability than the starlight 12. Also like Over $110 for a 3335
do you recommend buying a GProX or wait for the next Finalmouse because they are confirmed
Finalmouse drop wont be until august i can tell by ur pfp ur a high school gamer just get a gpx so u have something nice for the summer
@@boardzy LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@@boardzy sheee
@@boardzy hit out the park with that one 😅😂
@@boardzy i already have a Viper ultimate , is it that big of an upgrade
Is Rvu just worse than orochi v2 or just a worse value, i'm getting a rvu for 80$, should I grab it?
That price for the rvu is a good deal Btw but it all depends on your grip style , hand size and which shape do you think is most comfortable for your hands. Just because the orochi V2 is higher ranked on the list, doesn't necessarily mean it's better for you.
Do u gonna try the updated ninjutso origin one x?
Im still waiting the xm1 wireless or burst pro/core wireless.
Which mousepad is it. Been seeing it a lot lately
Shidenkai Xsoft
Bought roccat, my does the scroll wheel thing as well, but not terrible, just have to be light on the wheel , but it replaced viper ultimate, just way better feel in my hand.
hey boardzy, I already got the delux m800. is Orochi v2 a good upgrade ?
Yes, razer orochi v2 is a really good upgrade
@@oscar-1221- you own both?
@@haikalniza7060 yes
got the superlight, i'm done with mice
Nice
should i get the gpro or the orochi? (My hand length is approximately 19.5cm)
Gpro? Not the superlight? If so, then not sure. Maybe the gpro. If it’s the superlight then the superlight.
@@FearlessP4P1 nah the superlight is too expensive for me. Thanks for the advice tho
@@sean23 get razer orochi v2
Is that the medium or small starlight 12 ?
i very recently got my viper ultimate for $70 from amazon warehouse, feels just fine and arrived virtually brand new besides the packaging being a big worse for wear - probably the best deal i’ve ever gotten
Yo boardzy I want to get a hard pad do you think I should get the glorious air or a different pad
I have bought a viper ultimate for 80$ and cut 10 grames out of it, should i buy the superlight ?
boardy are you interested in the new lethal gaming gear mousepad? sounds interesting ngl
I’m using them right now, there are 3 of them
@@boardzy looking forward to the review(if any) lol, nice vid as usual tho
Can you fingertip the gpx well or should I go with the orochi v2?
Would recommend Orochi for ftip unless you have huuuge hands
@@boardzy What's 'huge'?
Recently switched from the g203 wireless to the Xm1r and I believe wires are not that bad, I may be biased as endgames cables are so good
Maybe because the g305 sucks and is way heavier than the Xm1r too
@@boardzy true true true
Are you ever gonna review the rival 3? it's better than the g203
I’ll pick it up next time I’m at micro center
G203 has one of the best sensors
Best weight and nice wire but it's rubber but feels light
Only demerits is its scroll wheel
Looks sexy in white colour
Did they add a dpi button on the kone pro air?
should i get the pwnage custom , deluxm800, the orochi v2 i currently have a viper ultimate looking to add to my collection
Orochi v2
@@boardzy thank you lord boardzy
You sound like shroud in a lot of ways, can be annoying but you can’t help that. Keep rocking the reviews
bro what's the mousepad you're using rn ?
viper ultimate at $79.99 a good deal ?
hell yea
viper ultimate for 80 is a great price
Fantastic deal if it comes with the charging dock but just an OK deal by itself; i would get the Orochi V2 instead.
Yup but I'd get the orochi v2 instead.
There are some new G Pro Wireless in ebay for 80$ is that worth it?
Where does the ROG Keris wireless fall on your top list?
Nowhere close to the top
where did you get the grip tape?
top 5 razer deathadders?
this.
My starlight arrives tomorrow and I honestly can't wait. Super excited to use something so light and wireless
If I can buy the Viper ultimate for 90$ is it worth it?
Which mousepad is that in the video?
Zowie s2 or model o wireless?
I love how boardzy always sneaks a model o in the thumbnail for the clicks
what grip tape is on your starlight 12?
What mouse should I get?
can you do another video for 2022 or there are not a lot of changes?
I will, just waiting for a few more mice to release
could i have an explanation on why the og g pro wireless does not replace the viper ult?
you could very well prefer the og gpw to the viper ult but i think it is useless to buy an og gpw when the superlight is so much better and not a massive price increase
ah ok thanks boardzy you are the goat
what are your thoughts on the air 58
A top ten mouse of all time
I’m not that informed was the starlight like a 1 time drop or does it just never go in stock
so MOW isn’t good for FPS games like. Valorant?
Model O wireless?
Do you not use the m2k?
I don't understand one thing in my country like literally all electronics especially gpus were and still are overpriced af but gpw (lightspeed) regular price is around 90€ I've recently found it for 70€ in discount with 2 years warranty I don't understand it
u don’t like the model o ???
Razer viper ultimate us for me how many side buttons?
4. 2 on each side so the opposite side is practically unusable
rn the viper ultimate is 80 dollars cad should i get it
I was waiting for this lets gooo.
Is the m800 in the seal of the approval
I guess the battery on the orochi also prolongs the age of the mouse as there is no internal battery that can die. That's a big advantage imo
If u change a battery each 2 months then who cares if it's rechargable or not.
got my Achilles yesterday. From 1 month of use on zy's rail, I really feel the shape is odd but I gotta adjust. The weight is just.... sooo good, is the 1st mouse I get I wont mod.
How’s you get yours already?
@@JoJo-rm8lc they are shipping the small right now. Only took 11 days stuck in memphis.
@@JoJo-rm8lc mediums haven’t shipped yet.
@@Bhrazz ahh. Good ole Memphis. I live 5 minutes from Memphis and I had a package sit in their facility for about 7 days before it was out for delivery.
i have side wobble on both left and right click buttons on my orochi as well. Not that i mind it so much.
its a design flaw of the top shell imo
Isn’t the final mouse available on stock X ?
Yea but it’s like 500$
Have you gotten the gm41 lightweight wireless???
i ordered it, havent gotten it yet
@@boardzy oh yay! Im gonna wait for your review. Havent seen any good video reviews i wonder why some didnt bother getting the mouse
My orochi has awful connectivity issues, and it randomly turns off. Would probably get like a g703 instead
Logitech needs a lightweight g703 😩
Is it normal for gpro X superlight to have super light left clicks? It sometimes shoots 2-3 bullets when I try to 1 tap. No double clicking issues according to some online tests. I just don't know what it is might have to rma or just go back to my heavy ass ec2a
That’s called double clicking
my only problem with final mouse have been the click button height, because they are so far down and I suppose my haands are big I lose a lot of stability in my shots especially rapid ones with the press travail distance, while palm gripping, I just ordered a logi ultralight so this will be my first logi mouse in probably 20 years. Hopefully it goes well I know logitech software is a pos and no dpi button is going to tilt me.
is model O wireless still viable?
No
im very curious as to what would someone say if they have never heard of the gpx and you gave it to them and telling them its a 70 dollar mouse, i think that would eliminate somes bias since we give more value to priciser things, its why supreme etc is so pupular
glorious model o wireless??
Totally agree on the right side buttons on the razer viper ultimate. For me the shape is perfect but those side buttons ruin it.
Maybe a best wired mouse tier list idk some people are scared of wireless for some reason so maybe they would like that I personally use the g pro super light but before I was using the xm1r and I loved it for what it was
waiting for an XM1 wireless to just dominate
Same. I'm trying to hold out on buying a new mouse because I'm waiting for it to release, but my current mouse's feet and wearing off and all three clicks (even the middle click) are having double click issues, so it's making it hard to wait.
Imagine a xm1 wireless at 60 grams or under
@@edge3369 literal endgame
@@brandonkey181 yea that'd be insane
Is it normal to have a weird gap between the bottom plate and the top shell at where the charger is on a g pro x
Deluxe m800 with corepads or stock orochi
Is there a way to bind the dpi button of the new finalmouse to something else
There’s no software, so no
I love my mow but I'm going to try a superlight soon
ecuse me mygood sir what mouse grip are those ?
Btl grips from lethalgaminggear
Model O wireless? Why not RVU?
this is what not watching a vid looks like
@@boardzy kek you are right
In regards to the KPA scroll wheel click, mine is also extremely easy to click. I use scroll for jump and scroll wheel click for spray in val and almost always hit it when bhopping. I feel like it isn't qc just bad implementation.
Also KPA is my main for a while. Until they do a KPA v2 with mechanical switches or new batches with better opticals. Always easy to pull a recommendation from you bc we have the same sized hands-ish 20x11.5
@@RompusJr ancient but I don't got that issue with mine
Logitech g703 hero is also a good wireless mouse.
What mousepad is that
Hati s wireless??? I am planning to get one and i wonder why it didnt make to yhe list.
got my starlight 12, bottom flex just as bad as model o, dont like the small shape (I would like medium better) clicks feel amazing side buttons amazing scroll wheel amazing, and feet scratchy as hell, I like the gpx better
what are those grips u put on the starlight
lethalgaminggear.com/collections/bt-l-grips-finalmouse?aff=3
I have these for my ul2 and they're great if you can't do holes on the sides, they're thin but a little squishy though, and after a day I could start to see and feel the holes through the tape with my monkey grip strength. Also they don't come with a top, so the mouse will feel wider but not taller, felt a little incomplete to me there.
whats wrong with model o wireless?
Mr Boardzy plz can you use your based powers to manifest a viper mini ult from razer
It will release today imo