Hungrybox Heart To Heart On Mental Health & Melee

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  • @saadsharif1552
    @saadsharif1552 3 года назад +201

    Knowing his stepfather died the following morning, and it’s likely something they were expecting for a while, contextualises pretty well what he was talking about re:his personal life

    • @keller_3180
      @keller_3180 3 года назад

      Is there a video on his past

  • @Kosmicd12
    @Kosmicd12 3 года назад +68

    I respect the willingness to say these things so much

    • @stormcat3648
      @stormcat3648 3 года назад +4

      Really cool to see you here kosmic, big fan!

  • @octiviana
    @octiviana 3 года назад +177

    This series has cemented Cody as my favorite player. Cody just seems to care so much about the game, and the people who play it. He's seems a true competitor that wants all those around him to improve. And showing that by giving people legitimate advice both on their mentality and their play. Keep doing what you do cody!!

    • @sp3ctum
      @sp3ctum 3 года назад

      Well put. He seems to motivate everything around him, it's like an aura.

  • @charlesmitchell7864
    @charlesmitchell7864 3 года назад +81

    Have been really appreciating the realness of this clip series. There's so much heart in this game. And seeing someone look out for Hbox like this, in public, especially the person who has beaten him so badly in tournament, it just means so much.

  • @TheIronyoshi
    @TheIronyoshi 3 года назад +88

    It's good to know his set went to game 5 with Cody. He has to know that he's capable of winning on netplay.

    • @robbiestrong-morse730
      @robbiestrong-morse730 3 года назад +6

      It does suck for him that he literally lost to the same people as wizzrobe but because of bracket differences wizzy got 3rd and he got 9th ( nothing against wizzy that can just be rough for his mentality).

    • @Dlord1PlayStation
      @Dlord1PlayStation 3 года назад +11

      @@robbiestrong-morse730 Honestly I'd be happier knowing that I lost to 1st and 2nd than losing to people who bustered right after they ended my tournament run. Losing to 1st and 2nd are "good losses". If he lost to anyone other than ibdw, mang0, and zain, I'd feel worse if I were him.

    • @robbiestrong-morse730
      @robbiestrong-morse730 3 года назад

      @@Dlord1PlayStation Fair like it would be terrible to go down to that puff ditto in r1 only for the other puff to flunk out and go 1-2.

  • @niccster1061
    @niccster1061 3 года назад +28

    I like that people are happy for hbox and not just shitting on him. Imagine this 2 years ago

  • @adamquenano8563
    @adamquenano8563 3 года назад +48

    It’s scary how similar Hbox and Jigglypuff are in terms of being neglected.Your a real one Ibdw.

  • @sdw-hv5ko
    @sdw-hv5ko 3 года назад +21

    This is the realest I've ever seen Hbox get. I love hearing him open up and I wish him the best

  • @JellyBlockLP
    @JellyBlockLP 3 года назад +27

    Knowing that top players are constantly battling with their own mental struggles helps me fight my own. Great series, Cody!

    • @risersin7957
      @risersin7957 3 года назад +2

      Yes and I like the acknowledgement that it's not just Hbox. All top players are dealing with something most likely. And you too. I'm rooting for you and glad you're able to equip yourself for the fight.

  • @cameronmckendrick4155
    @cameronmckendrick4155 3 года назад +35

    Really hit something around the 14 min mark. Loved finally hearing the reason. Comfort can be so dangerous as it blocks opportunity. Great stuff cody and I hope hbox knows he will be enough no matter how well he plays a jigglypuff

  • @deep_cuts2019
    @deep_cuts2019 3 года назад +13

    6:13 "I can't empathize with it, but I can sympathize with it." I love precise language

  • @jungshin87
    @jungshin87 3 года назад +76

    this IBDW Hbox series is too ahead of its time. it feels like IBDW has a rope around HBox and just heavily dragging him forward...but inb4 HBox ends up being his worst nightmare next 2-4 years

    • @B463L
      @B463L 3 года назад +8

      We don't deserve these guys.

  • @Metroyeti17
    @Metroyeti17 3 года назад +12

    This feels so reminiscent of Chariots of Fire, when Harold Abrahams talks about the pressure of running. “In one hour's time I will be out there again. I will raise my eyes and look down that corridor; 4 feet wide, with 10 lonely seconds to justify my whole existence. But will I?” Cant imagine that weight. I hope Juan can process through this well. Big shoutouts to you Cody for being there for him.

  • @cyfer115
    @cyfer115 3 года назад +12

    None of us outsiders should use these two players being real as entertainment, but rather we should use these videos to be honest with ourselves. Do we want to improve as an individual? Thank you to iBDW and HBox for helping me process my own struggles 🙂

  • @__S.K.
    @__S.K. 3 года назад +9

    In view of Hbox's "why do we all do this?":
    "That self-centeredness...whenever it would lift it's ugly head I would start to feel there was no point to the path I walked..." - Vagabond
    Sometimes in life you need to be self-centered - to take care of yourself, just posting this for awareness.

  • @mildmagician2764
    @mildmagician2764 3 года назад +67

    I feel like hbox is playing with the fear of losing his status, whereas when he was on top he played his sets confidently.

  • @Justpassingby204
    @Justpassingby204 3 года назад +15

    This video was very helpful for my mentality too

  • @brandonsolis6911
    @brandonsolis6911 3 года назад +19

    I feel like hbox should just switch mains on ultimate. I know him playing is going to effect his melee to some degree regardless but I’m sure playing a lot less similar a character would help him keep keep his melee puff habits in tact. I know his ultimate fan base loves his puff but given how understanding they seem I think they would understand if he makes a video about it

    • @eliascolburn8316
      @eliascolburn8316 3 года назад +3

      On the one hand it's good for his melee but at the same time it's heavily tied into his ultimate brand

    • @Saskaruto16
      @Saskaruto16 3 года назад

      So many people including M2K told him to switch mains or it would mess up his Melee and he hasn't listened because the dumb ult kids love to see the Puff guy play Puff in Ult.
      His Palu was playing amazingly he could be good at other characters and probably do better with a stronger character in Ult and not screw up his Puff nearly as much.

    • @brandonsolis6911
      @brandonsolis6911 3 года назад +2

      The thing is I really don’t think his ultimate fan base would care much at all, I think they all just really like Juan as a person. I bet he could even make a whole series of content for his search for a new main and they would love it

    • @Saskaruto16
      @Saskaruto16 3 года назад +3

      @@brandonsolis6911 I agree with that, but he doesn't seem to believe that.

    • @drifter402
      @drifter402 3 года назад +1

      I know M2K does that strat

  • @GolfGod954
    @GolfGod954 7 месяцев назад

    Met Cody at Shine this year. Super cool guy. Took some pics with us and joked around and chatted a little. He did all this when he was already “late for doubles.” Also came across as oddly down to earth for a top player.

  • @zygiwong
    @zygiwong 3 года назад +8

    i feel like hbox playing with cody is the best possible training for him. it would make him used to lag and cody is knowledgeable

  • @ElGuayo
    @ElGuayo 3 года назад +11

    Get in the robot Juan-kun

  • @gunnarandersen4273
    @gunnarandersen4273 3 года назад +1

    This is amazing Cody, you were incredibly insightful and I think you're genuinely helping HBOX.

  • @uberpownage3577
    @uberpownage3577 3 года назад +1

    Cody, looking at these comments everyone knows and agrees. But you're being the friend to Hbox that every man deserves. Its a beautiful thing helping someone fight their demons, and your willingness to do so is a testament to your love of the game and to who you are as a person. Two big thumbs up!

  • @zombi1709
    @zombi1709 3 года назад

    Ibdw, or cody if you prefer, I have just stumbled upon your content and let me say that this is some truly profound and meaningful stuff. It's honestly amazing to see you help hbox like this. These discussions, and by that I mean barebones honesty, need to happen more not just within melee, but within our society as a whole. We need more kindness and genuine care within our day to day. Thank you for this video. You've really earned my subscription and I hope to see more serious, grounded discussion. You have a gift to bring out the sincerity in people and I hope to see more of that.

  • @CheapShotFail
    @CheapShotFail 3 года назад

    "It doesn't have to be fixed tomorrow, it just has to be fixed. Play me again. Play Zain again."
    Best advice right there, really good heart to heart. Really glad to see you two interacting in a positive way!

  • @BDunback
    @BDunback 3 года назад +2

    My thoughts, perspective, and advice for anyone.
    I would love to see Hbox fight to the top again. I understand where he is coming from. I have had my fair share of achievement and struggles with new problems to deal with. While my friends don't understand and they would minimize the problem by saying "well, at least you got a job in this" or "I never made it there"
    I wish I can tell anyone who is in college or others who are trying hard to achieve themselves, life doesn't get easier for you just because you made a career for yourself. Especially with mental health.
    I spend a LOT of time working on mental health, so when I get that awesome job, I can focus a little more on my career. Truth is, people suck and you have to deal with them. I come to accept that but I don't let it affect how I approach others. The biggest thing I've learned is being ok with myself, my surroundings, and what I can control. When I stop focusing on others around me. It helps me 10x in my job and my work. I'm not perfect and I know I wont be. All I can do is be better. I know I might fail, but I dust myself off and keep walking forward. I have been told by a lot of people that I am one of the most stubborn and driven people they know. I used to hate hearing that but now, I accept that. Learning to accept or to acknowledge your flaws is also a huge step. That you can fix those in time. Also accepting that Time has no boundaries when it comes to “length”
    I think what Hbox needs is a few friends he can fail or fall to without having to be burned so hard. Which is a huge problem for him. I can relate to this. Mental health and having people watching you is tense, and something I had back away from. Unfortunately, this is a tricky area. because you learn, it's no one's job to be your friend/ therapist. You have to balance your emotional problems with positive interactions. So you don't burn those relationships. Also not everyone is made to deal with the issues. You have to be okay with that.
    Cody, what you are doing is great. However, You both are learning to grow. So learn boundaries on when you 2 can talk about mental health stuff and days where you 2 just play games for fun. Balance is key. You both are opening up to each other. This is great but you can over do it if there is an outlet for the emotional connections for you 2. Trust me, you can burn each out by just having these talks a lot. It’s a common pattern I see with Hbox. No offence.
    Good luck and happy growth guys. Cheers

  • @CogzillaOfDojima
    @CogzillaOfDojima 3 года назад +2

    This is the dark reality of being "number 1"

  • @axis8396
    @axis8396 3 года назад

    Reminds me of me tbh. I was never a top player but I still had these problems. My brother was ranked for a bit in PM so I always felt like I had to be that good as well. When I won I felt nothing and when I lost it killed me. I've always had a ton of respect for Hbox so I'm really glad you can help him

  • @rob1996ization
    @rob1996ization 3 года назад +1

    dude cody seems like such a great guy to know

  • @DIRTY-MERLIN
    @DIRTY-MERLIN 3 года назад +1

    the relief or pain as the only outcomes sounds a lot like what Armada said about his retirement.
    interesting to hear it coming from hbox now.

  • @deep_cuts2019
    @deep_cuts2019 3 года назад

    This video is so freaking great. I love melee, and I love psychology. This video is the best of both worlds.

  • @narbonne7637
    @narbonne7637 3 года назад +1

    This is oddly motivational, I feel really identified with Hbox and Im surprised how well Cody takes down the flaws in his rationale

  • @bhativimokhanaananda7759
    @bhativimokhanaananda7759 3 года назад

    Really been Loving this series

  • @camiloadrianfrias4521
    @camiloadrianfrias4521 3 года назад +1

    I know these sessions are beneficial to ibdw for his stream and everything, but props to him nonetheless for being willing to listen to hbox vent on and on about his personal problems and his job and being former number one... Even as an unrepentant hbox fan who cheers for him camping Axe for 8 minutes, this was exhausting to watch

  • @ChampionShogo
    @ChampionShogo 3 года назад

    Awesome video! This advice is relevant to people at a lot of different levels and subjects outside of smash as well :)

  • @ThePsychicTrainer
    @ThePsychicTrainer 3 года назад +3

    did hbox straight up not know how rtc rest on platform worked? wtf has crunch been doing all this time

  • @wow12303
    @wow12303 3 года назад +1

    we need to get Hbox on Dr K stream

  • @George-nx8zu
    @George-nx8zu 3 года назад

    iBDW slowly becoming my favorite

  • @JuiceLabs
    @JuiceLabs 3 года назад +1

    love this

  • @KongMonkE
    @KongMonkE 3 года назад

    Cody loves fox puff so much that he's trying to make the best puff better so he can have more fun
    Big brain

  • @alexwood9941
    @alexwood9941 3 года назад

    Big Cody fan as of today

  • @timgruidl
    @timgruidl 3 года назад

    I always thought it would be interesting if hbox would talk to the more technical puffs and do a vod review together and get the perspective of the optimized puff vs what the Goat of the character has to say. Golden, maxy come to mind just think it would be dope!

  • @Landmasters
    @Landmasters 3 года назад

    I do appreciate you posting this stuff Cody, up until March of this year I was very much in with the HFam and regrettably some of the demon's people kept talking about got verified by a source I trust and I broke away at that point. Hearing a bit of his frustrations and struggles does help with mending that disappointment...and I'm still not quite ready to forgive, but this does help show improvement as it's clear mentally he's been in a jam over the past five years and especially after the death of his stepfather
    Also unrelated, but your fox is deadass cruel to watch like Zain's Marth lol. Any time I see a slight flub I just instinctively mark a person's stock as gone and I mean this in a good way, but I wince and curse Fox's name when i see it

  • @kyles5960
    @kyles5960 3 года назад

    This was a really good watch imo

  • @jmarvins
    @jmarvins 3 года назад

    ibdw teaching hbox the RTC rest.... solobattle forbidden techniques.... post-COVID hbox may be a beast if he can get it together

  • @wearbroom
    @wearbroom 3 года назад +1

    Dang this got deep

  • @linkluver_izn
    @linkluver_izn 3 года назад

    HollowKnight music in the background is lit

  • @zombieraddish
    @zombieraddish 3 года назад +3

    Maybe this is a banal thought but I wonder if Hbox should play a different character in ultimate. Obviously that wouldn't resolve most of his issues, but it strikes me that playing a puff with similar moves but fundamentally different timing would inherently mix up his muscle memory in a way that playing a straight up different character with a dissimilar moveset wouldn't. It'd at least be one less problem imo

    • @zombieraddish
      @zombieraddish 3 года назад +1

      if it's a stream brand thing, he should understand that people watch because they are fans of the player, not the old pokemon character

    • @jjrambles683
      @jjrambles683 3 года назад +2

      I know m2k picks different mains in each smash games specifically to avoid that so maybe

    • @qwposwpo9249
      @qwposwpo9249 3 года назад

      @@zombieraddish I think jigglypuff is pretty much part of hbox's identity at this point and I feel like it's something that he doesn't wanna give up. If you think about it, Hbox played puff in every smash game but he was only successful in melee because puff is only good in melee and sucks in every other smash game.

    • @AzureCrux
      @AzureCrux 3 года назад +1

      @@qwposwpo9249 Part of the reason he's playing worse in melee is because he's not really able to differentiate between the two. If you look at all 3 of the vids, you see HBox doing a lot of ultimate things that he would never really do in Melee before. You also add timings and whatnot, and it makes a lot of sense why he's missing tech (no buffer to save him in melee). I know it's part of his identity, but it's making him worse at both games

    • @qwposwpo9249
      @qwposwpo9249 3 года назад

      @@AzureCrux He did talk about potentially playing Wario in ultimate. Idk how or why it fell through tho.

  • @yalebass
    @yalebass 3 года назад

    m2k and hbox should have a heart to heart too, m2k had to deal with wanting to play multiple games and falling behind in melee too

  • @DJSALTYNUTZ
    @DJSALTYNUTZ 3 года назад +1

    18:00
    dats some real shit

  • @papijr408
    @papijr408 3 года назад

    Yoo it looks like I have alot of shit to watch and catch up on. Really amazing series you will get far with this. Can't wait for ibdw to start winning shit and body everyone.

  • @jerrydiaz8161
    @jerrydiaz8161 3 года назад

    I do wish I could have a 1 on 1 with hbox even though I'm a nobody. Hbox needs to imagine that he has nothing to lose in order to be hungry again just like he did on his rise to #1. Peak HGod is truly scary, ending matches in less than a minute, putting serious mental pressure on the opponent that the slightest thing will lead to a stock loss.
    Hbox also needs to develop puff further with new tech, reads, punishes and situations. Much like Axe as the sole torch bearer for Pikachu in top 100, there is no one else who will do that job for them.
    Axe said it himself that he hasn't really been developing pika which is imo, the reason why he is currently stagnant. Constructive criticism aside, I enjoy Hbox, Axe and the rest of the melee scene.

  • @FabulousJejmaze
    @FabulousJejmaze 3 года назад

    Damn you're such a fucking homie. Love you Cody!

  • @joelpettersson4055
    @joelpettersson4055 3 года назад

    Ibdw is so fucking cool

  • @leashwolves9355
    @leashwolves9355 3 года назад

    Good video Cody

  • @GOODMORNINGOCEAN
    @GOODMORNINGOCEAN 3 года назад +13

    So this is a really interesting conversation. I'm watching this as a Christian, and so there are many times throughout this video where I am in love with the vulnerability of Juan and Cody, and I think that Cody is blessed with a brilliant head on his shoulders. Like even the part at the end where he says, I could be wrong about this so please talk to others too. Man that's so great, like honestly that's amazing advice. And so I'm watching this and they get to the topic of mental health. And I just think it's so interesting, because to me, hungry boxes avoiding because of fear. He even admits that, and that's really interesting. It's a testament to his maturity that he would admit his raw emotions. And the whole time I'm watching this I'm just thinking to myself, man the answer is Jesus. Like legitimately, hungrybox has this desire but it is in conflict to another desire. I've gone through this as a Christian, like I've had to choose between two almost career choices and who knows what my life would have been like if I had chosen the other. But the fear and anxiety that was present in that moment of choice I knew, as a child of God that the fear was not coming from within me. The Bible says that God has not given us a spirit of fear or timidity. Meaning that every bit of fear that shows up in my life as a Christian did not come from me. Or at the very least if a thought of fear did arise in my head, I don't have to submit to it as reality. My reality is Jesus, my reality is salvation, my reality is a future and a hope, my reality is communion with the god of the universe who died on the cross in human form to pay for that communion. Like this is what is missing in this conversation, and I respect the heck out of both of these individuals do not misunderstand me I am literally just linking out loud voice to text writing this out as I'm driving. But I was just awestruck, that these two young men could have such vulnerability and transparency into the way that they are thinking and talking about each other's passions. Like genuinely, Juan, I don't know what your spiritual life is like, but if you do not confess Jesus as your Lord and Savior, then I would start with that. Because let's say hypothetically that hungrybox was a Christian and God's will for his life was to use melee as an opportunity to evangelize and build relationships and bring people into the kingdom. Man you want to know what the first idea would have come to my mind when Slippy came out, I am going to use this to influence people and spread the good news of Jesus Christ. I'm saying a lot of things, and I doubt anybody was going to read this but in the small chance that this gets seen by anyone and maybe even hungry box, or Cody, this is my piece of advice. Stream melee, like you stream ultimate. That's it man. I'm not trying to call y'all to Christianity, I believe that the Lord will send or has sent people in your life to do that, that's not why I'm here. I'm just a guy who was thinking a lot of things as I was watching this video and I wanted to get them out, I'm probably going to write this down in my drone too. Man much respect much love to you Cody and to you hungry box, you guys are inspirations and I love y'all's melee.💚

    • @exeterd9
      @exeterd9 3 года назад +1

      Dude you sound like youre in a cult, you should try to imagine for once that other people have different religious views

    • @Metroyeti17
      @Metroyeti17 3 года назад +6

      @@exeterd9 That's actually just orthodox Christian belief. Not very cultish.

    • @exeterd9
      @exeterd9 3 года назад

      @@Metroyeti17 uhhh okay dude, just dont try to push beliefs on other people

    • @exeterd9
      @exeterd9 3 года назад

      @@Metroyeti17 and thats exactly what someone in a cult would say

    • @Metroyeti17
      @Metroyeti17 3 года назад +6

      @@exeterd9 Lmao alright buddy, you might want to inform yourself a little on world religions.

  • @Rockleefan3
    @Rockleefan3 3 года назад

    I hope Juan doesn’t kick himself too much. Giving 100 percent is one of scariest things to do after all. ... At least as a privileged person.

  • @rhinorumpin
    @rhinorumpin 3 года назад

    Maybe I'm off-base here... But I really think slippi is the new best way to grind the game. I think when crt comes back everyone that doesn't grind slippi will get absolutely washed.

  • @4purs
    @4purs 3 года назад

    Can someone explain to me how hbox has such a hard time with rollback while mango and zain and other tech heavy chars don’t struggle at all? Is it Cus some online stutters just destroy his mentality, I find it hard to believe that the lag would only negatively affect puff. If he’s experiencing it then others should too?

    • @DrizzyRhyme2
      @DrizzyRhyme2 3 года назад +1

      Ultimate's the biggest reason why he got worse at melee, same with plup

  • @robo-rex0239
    @robo-rex0239 3 года назад

    Cool

  • @Riokaii
    @Riokaii 3 года назад +8

    Expectation should play 0 part.
    Gameplay is all that matters, study the game, fix your mistakes, learn to punish opponents mistakes. Then the expectations will be met or exceeded as a byproduct, they are a symptom

    • @lxvi2441
      @lxvi2441 3 года назад +3

      that's a lot easier said than done, which is the entire issue
      i'm sure it'll resolve eventually

    • @swank8508
      @swank8508 3 года назад +1

      @@lxvi2441 perfectly worded. The advice means a world of a difference coming from a top player who KNOWS what its like to try your best and fail

  • @YourGuyWedge
    @YourGuyWedge 3 года назад +1

    Weird thing is ults online is way worse and he doesnt john that

    • @hobbes9631
      @hobbes9631 3 года назад +3

      He’s so used to having Melee being a perfect constant in his life, that when he feels something is just a tiny bit off in online Melee, he cracks

  • @catchthesefans
    @catchthesefans 3 года назад

    Ima side-eye people who make fun of hbox for not performing well, the dude is clearly going through it. Pretty sure hes using melee/ult as a distraction now.

  • @TanDokuDemon
    @TanDokuDemon 3 года назад

    I am so lost :
    -Can't understand anything because you're all talking in english x1.5
    -I never played melee
    -Why does everyone calls Jigglypuff a "she". Pokemon can be male, so what ?
    - how many inputs per second for that fox ? Especially when the adversary is not on stage, why ? Is he sick ? Does the fingers act by themselves ?
    - why this Cody is not number 1 of the world ? He seems so strong
    - BUT AT LEAST I recognized Faster Than Light OST

  • @djenob420
    @djenob420 3 года назад +1

    Dude homie. Can you just tell juan or atleast remind em next time that he beat Sfat in the Lcas tourney. I'm sure that will give him the inspiration to know he can do it.

  • @jnf10596
    @jnf10596 3 года назад

    this

  • @TriopsTrilobite
    @TriopsTrilobite 3 года назад

    Keep it up Cody!
    PS: thanks for gifting me a Mang0 sub lol

  • @coltonmang6187
    @coltonmang6187 3 года назад

    It's a videogame. If it's relief vs pain... move on. Much more to life.

  • @clap5108
    @clap5108 3 года назад +1

    Hbox has such a mental block with online. At the end of the day the better players gonna win. It’s obvious what needs to change. Play the game against top players more.

    • @ADavidJohnson
      @ADavidJohnson 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, but it’s so hard to *stay* the best in the world because like Hbox was saying, you’ve achieved everything... and now what?
      It’s an easier excuse that “this one doesn’t count” and give yourself a break without telling yourself that’s what you’re doing
      It’s a lot more fun to be Scarface in the first half of the movie even though he’s in a lot worse place objectively. Because he’s climbing. Whereas once you have everything, it’s just keeping it or losing it. You gain nothing.
      Armada may have been the best in the world at his peak, but mang0 continuing to love the game and stay competing is also a kind of greatness. Because it’s really hard to just *stay* at the top

  • @FFRN00B
    @FFRN00B 3 года назад +1

    I really like Hbox, but dude just complains so much about online, man. Almost seems like a defensive mechanism, as iBDW said.

    • @tomrod1949
      @tomrod1949 3 года назад

      Probably is, it'll be interesting to see if he can overcome it

  • @carlcarlqvist7521
    @carlcarlqvist7521 3 года назад

    First

  • @billfujsteen7064
    @billfujsteen7064 3 года назад +1

    I get this sense that Cody really thinks he smarter than everyone and has the answer to everything lol like bro when his voice gets all high pitched like that I can help but laugh at him