This is such a simple technique that once you have it you own it. I think it's 2 fold as well, because you are in essence working on proper delivery in your full swing. It's literally just a shorter version of the full swing. I use the clock method but also have developed my own feel for the length of the back swing for stock yardages. I have a 10 yard, 20 yard, and a 30 yard at the moment. I also know that my 60* at a "9 o'clock" lead arm position goes 47 yards and my 54* carries 61 yards. Having "built in" or stock yardages is a game changer. You can add to the technique to create other types of shots. As in move it back slightly with a bowed lead wrist produces a lower spinner, cup your lead wrist like your hitting a hold off fade and you have a nice floater that lands like a bag of sand. Open the blade and aim left and you have a cut lob. Take it even further and really get creative, open the blade, aim right and try to hook it with your path. I saw Tiger hitting that shot and tried it. Lower drawing spinner that really spins something nasty to the left when it lands. And it all is just a mini version of the full swing.
I have been using the Pelz clock method for close to 20 years now. I don't play much anymore, but the clock method still enables me to have a way better than average short game since I don't practice at all and only play ~20 rounds a year (down from 120+ rounds a year)
This is a really good reminder of what I already know but invariably forget over the shot!! If there’s nothing I need to carry I grab my 4 hybrid and treat it like a putt. Safety first!
Need to hear how this changes playing on less carpet-like grass (like Bent). My experience using the bounce on non-Bermuda grass is the club still digs into the dirt (especially if it’s wet). Makes you have to hit ball first. Would love to hear short game chef’s thoughts.
Chest rotation is my main swing thought on these shots. I imagine an arrow coming out of my chest is pointing at the target line throughout my swing and then finishing with the chest pointing at the target.
Wow, really? Fire those friends. 😉 The chest should move a lot. It’s my main thought. Keep the chest pointing at the target line throughout the swing and then at the target when finished.
I've been trying this wide to wide body motion for pitching and I hit some good ones but then out of the blue I'll thin one way over the green! Any suggestions as to why I might be doing this and what to do to remedy the problem?
This is 35 yards with no wrist action. What about 40, 45, 50? At some point you just cant hit it far enough and now you have to add wrists - so you have a a different swing for different pitching lengths which is very difficult under pressure. At what point is there a switch between no wrists and wrists? Thats my issue with this technique. It becomes unnatural at some distance.
You could just club up same swing just use a pw or 9iron to get more distance. You would be surprised how well a 9 iron can hold a green with just a little tap on the ball. Everyone is different but I would give clubbing up a try 👍🏿
Pros get necessary speed by turning around their core with speed. There is some give in the wrists, but mostly the speed comes from an aggressive body turn with a partial swing. Limited swing but not limited body turn.
i would say for the 40-50-60 yd shots , like he said just come up a little past 9 o clock and use more action in the bigger muscles . it takes some getting used to for sure but i’ve found the less wrists and more torso rotation the more consistent strikes i get . it really comes down to 2 things for me. Feel the distance in the length of back swing and ball striking. The only wrist or hand action i feel is when i want to control the spin or just the feeling of the club face releasing thru impact . You don’t want to get wristy or handsy pre impact it causes inconsistent ball striking .
I heard the stance and action on this shot should feel like you are standing on the top of a large bottle and you are trying to screw on and off the cap with your turn. You wouldn’t sway to do that nor would you want a wide stance.
Total hacker here, but one of the things that isn't talked about enough in my mind is that people get out of position and steep when they have poor shoulder rotation. If you notice the difference between the teacher and student, the teacher has a more horizontal shoulder rotation whereas the student has a more vertical rotation. This is something that helps flatten out and widen the swing much more easily and is more consistent. I'd be interested to hear what the chef would say.
They always talk about this upper body rotation and never mention what the legs are doing! The legs are a key part to this body rotation in case you didn't know
Is it just me or was this instructor was incredibly nice and the student (learner) was kind of rude? Meh doesn’t matter but just manners go a long way when you have a curious mind. Great technique, headed out to practice!
Errr, here’s a suggestion. Don’t invest your time watching guys like this. Take a friend and a camera and hit the practice ground. You should very soon find out what works for you, keep practicing what works.
@@jacobr4558 yeh. Prioritising actual practice over random RUclips tips sounds so silly doesn’t it 🤡 Tiger said it best. The best tip he has for every amateur is and I quote “stop watching RUclips”. Go practice kid.
@@chillier8363 Fiar enough, different feels for different folks. Keep turning through the ball and you won't dig. A steeper approach angle gives me more consistent contact on pitches and on bunker shots. Throw the head and keep turning the torso.
This is such a simple technique that once you have it you own it. I think it's 2 fold as well, because you are in essence working on proper delivery in your full swing. It's literally just a shorter version of the full swing. I use the clock method but also have developed my own feel for the length of the back swing for stock yardages. I have a 10 yard, 20 yard, and a 30 yard at the moment. I also know that my 60* at a "9 o'clock" lead arm position goes 47 yards and my 54* carries 61 yards. Having "built in" or stock yardages is a game changer. You can add to the technique to create other types of shots. As in move it back slightly with a bowed lead wrist produces a lower spinner, cup your lead wrist like your hitting a hold off fade and you have a nice floater that lands like a bag of sand. Open the blade and aim left and you have a cut lob. Take it even further and really get creative, open the blade, aim right and try to hook it with your path. I saw Tiger hitting that shot and tried it. Lower drawing spinner that really spins something nasty to the left when it lands. And it all is just a mini version of the full swing.
I have been using the Pelz clock method for close to 20 years now. I don't play much anymore, but the clock method still enables me to have a way better than average short game since I don't practice at all and only play ~20 rounds a year (down from 120+ rounds a year)
@@tourproto that's my thoughts as well
This is a really good reminder of what I already know but invariably forget over the shot!! If there’s nothing I need to carry I grab my 4 hybrid and treat it like a putt. Safety first!
The groundskeeper is gonna love you guys!!! Great video by the way! Love your stuff! Using the bounce has been a life changer for me!
Parker, just want to give a very big thank you for advice. I am a 76 year old 7 handicap and this helps my up and downs.
Same here!
Thanks, Chef!
Great points. Great series. Great golf.
Need to hear how this changes playing on less carpet-like grass (like Bent). My experience using the bounce on non-Bermuda grass is the club still digs into the dirt (especially if it’s wet). Makes you have to hit ball first. Would love to hear short game chef’s thoughts.
Watch Dan grieves he explains it all so good
mayo has your answer
Really helpful! Great to hear from an expert!
The guy is a pro!
The width thing is huge - love the Trevino story
Very helpful detail.
He didn’t talk about the 100 yard skull shot?
Yes but when you’ve skulled through the green you can use the 30 yard pitch twice to get it back 😂
Yeah because we are already masters of that.
I can help if you need it. Low rates.
No, but they do cover the reliable 100 yard shot ruclips.net/video/y0wqoVov6QQ/видео.html
The info in the video is top tier. 60k views and only 600ish likes? We gotta do better.
Couldn't agree more. Those are rookie numbers. Gotta pump those up!
I love Parker and his info...I downvoted for the lazy interviewer/host😌
Chest rotation is my main swing thought on these shots. I imagine an arrow coming out of my chest is pointing at the target line throughout my swing and then finishing with the chest pointing at the target.
I've always been told, No body movement. Great video Can't wait to try it.
Wow, really? Fire those friends. 😉 The chest should move a lot. It’s my main thought. Keep the chest pointing at the target line throughout the swing and then at the target when finished.
How would one go around not hitting the hossel of the club? I find myself when I pitch/Chip the ball it shoots off right the majority of the time.
This is it boys.
Amazing!!
I've been trying this wide to wide body motion for pitching and I hit some good ones but then out of the blue I'll thin one way over the green! Any suggestions as to why I might be doing this and what to do to remedy the problem?
Make sure grip is good. And tempo.
My grandfather father told me picture your club head going in to a pitchers mitt to create width.
That's a great visualization.
Let me know what kind of iron is best for pitch?
4:32 what happens here. Looks like the ball lagged out
This is 35 yards with no wrist action. What about 40, 45, 50? At some point you just cant hit it far enough and now you have to add wrists - so you have a a different swing for different pitching lengths which is very difficult under pressure. At what point is there a switch between no wrists and wrists? Thats my issue with this technique. It becomes unnatural at some distance.
You could just club up same swing just use a pw or 9iron to get more distance.
You would be surprised how well a 9 iron can hold a green with just a little tap on the ball.
Everyone is different but I would give clubbing up a try 👍🏿
Pros get necessary speed by turning around their core with speed. There is some give in the wrists, but mostly the speed comes from an aggressive body turn with a partial swing. Limited swing but not limited body turn.
That said, I do add a little wrist hinge starting at 70 yards with my gap wedge.
Think about Steve stricker, one of the best pitchers we’ve seen
i would say for the 40-50-60 yd shots , like he said just come up a little past 9 o clock and use more action in the bigger muscles . it takes some getting used to for sure but i’ve found the less wrists and more torso rotation the more consistent strikes i get . it really comes down to 2 things for me. Feel the distance in the length of back swing and ball striking. The only wrist or hand action i feel is when i want to control the spin or just the feeling of the club face releasing thru impact . You don’t want to get wristy or handsy pre impact it causes inconsistent ball striking .
Maybe I missed it, but what does the inside path do for the chip? Usually with draws, don’t you get more roll?
My guess is it’s just easier than trying to hit a cut
I heard the stance and action on this shot should feel like you are standing on the top of a large bottle and you are trying to screw on and off the cap with your turn. You wouldn’t sway to do that nor would you want a wide stance.
Total hacker here, but one of the things that isn't talked about enough in my mind is that people get out of position and steep when they have poor shoulder rotation. If you notice the difference between the teacher and student, the teacher has a more horizontal shoulder rotation whereas the student has a more vertical rotation. This is something that helps flatten out and widen the swing much more easily and is more consistent. I'd be interested to hear what the chef would say.
They always talk about this upper body rotation and never mention what the legs are doing! The legs are a key part to this body rotation in case you didn't know
That nasty Bermuda. Uggh. Its evil.
Amazing how Casey wasn’t able to get inside enough on the way back even when given permission. So hard to exaggerate enough
Feel vs. real is crazy!
Is it just me or was this instructor was incredibly nice and the student (learner) was kind of rude? Meh doesn’t matter but just manners go a long way when you have a curious mind.
Great technique, headed out to practice!
i think the student was simply being a good advocate for subscribers of the golfer's journal. I was ok with it.
The latest, and laziest, introduction to journalism is the phrase "talk to me about..." no, YOU ask a question and do your job better
Errr, here’s a suggestion. Don’t invest your time watching guys like this. Take a friend and a camera and hit the practice ground. You should very soon find out what works for you, keep practicing what works.
Sounds good. Please update us on your progress after a couple years. 😂
@@jacobr4558 yeh. Prioritising actual practice over random RUclips tips sounds so silly doesn’t it 🤡 Tiger said it best. The best tip he has for every amateur is and I quote “stop watching RUclips”. Go practice kid.
I love it how those who could not make it on tour try and teach😂😂😂
Some people are better at teaching. Some people rather teach. Not always about money.
@@jmo23341 says a poor 24 handicapper🤣🤣
Chef won a PGA event.
@@woncameron24sure he did
This video is way too long. You're overcomplicating this simple shot.
Also, this focus on a "wide bottom" is a recipe for skulled shots.
And a narrow bottom is a recipe for chunks
@@chillier8363 Fiar enough, different feels for different folks. Keep turning through the ball and you won't dig.
A steeper approach angle gives me more consistent contact on pitches and on bunker shots. Throw the head and keep turning the torso.
this wrong don't do it.
It works perfectly for me, so maybe don't be in a rush to tell someone not to try something because it didn't work for YOU
Awesome! Great instruction. What pros do you teach?