ELVIS,I have been watching your video's now for a while and have learned so much, you rock! I love to learn new thing's,time is everything and cutting the time to powder coat is one less step in the process of reloading KEEP ON ROCKIN IT ELVIS!!!...
I am just getting into powder coating. I was referred to you on you tube from the fellows on the cast bullet forum. I like your videos and as soon as I compile everything I need and a spot to do I am going to tackle this. I have been casting bullets for over 40 years. Thank you greatly!
I gotta thank you Elvis, watching you I started powder coating my bullets 5 years ago and it's been a game changer. After using messy, stickey, waxy lubes for 40 years with the resulting leading in faster rounds I've seen the light. I coat 200 at a time and they come out perfect. My handguns love them and I have a Henry lever action in 357 and I have pushed the coated bullets to over 1700fps in it. After a thousand rounds or so a quick brushing and a little mineral spirits and the barrel is clean. Only problem is it's so easy I find myself shooting more and spending more money on components and time at the range and loading bench.
There is mention in the video that certain colours are not that great. Everyone seems to like Ford Light Blue. I’m new to this - is there some quality issue with certain colours?
Elvis ammo I'm really learning alot about casting and powder coating from your channel, Please keep up the good work and keep them videos coming. Thank you for sharing you time and tricks it is greatly appreciated
at about the 10 min mark on baking the powder coat reach in the oven and move all the rounds around. this will prevent them from sticking to themselves or the wire. the finish product is flawless
I've followed your lead in putting the bullets for 4 minutes in 150 degrees amd placed the bullets on the powder coating and it's working perfectly. Thanks for everything sir. Esteban.
Great job Elvis Ammo... I've been ES coating with a PC sprayer and that wastes a lot of powder and time but produces perfect results. I'll try your method ASAP. You've helped all of us reloaders, casters and powdercoaters by testing and experimenting and sharing your info. Thank you. Keep up the great work. I just subscribed to your channel and plan on watching all of your vids. Thanks again.
mick9mm. thank you for your kind words! I'm gratified by all of the kindness and welcome that I received from this community, thanks for taking the time to comment and happy powder coating to ya brother! !!!
Thanks, That is something I will try. This process saves the leading in the barrel of my pistols, so that is some great information. And as for dragging out a video, guys like me need that so we can process all of what you are saying. Thanks for a real good job of teaching others and sharing your talent!
Honestly I've been heating bullets slightly before the application of the powder for years now. Now I feel like an idiot for not telling people sooner. It's very effective and it does coat very evenly. Great job an excellent demonstration.
5 years later we all wish Elvis would come back full time even if it's on a different platform.. God Bless Elvis and family in his current adventures... God Bless JDAS
Thanks for sharing! This simple preheat method makes the most sense. It reminds me of trying to stir powdered coffee creamer into cold water. It doesn't mix, it just clumps up. But once you heat up the water, it mixes as normal. Keep up the great work!
Thank you very much for all of this information. I have started powder coating my bullets for my 357 mag and your tips and tricks have helped me a lot.
Thanks. I have tried the tumbler method and all I end up with is a mess... once I failed to tighten the wingnut enough. That mess was epic. Your method: genius.
Grey pilgrim, hey there, sorry about the tumbler mess! I Used to put the tumbler in another building because of the noise. this system is simple and it don't make a sound! thankya there pilgrim for commenting! !!!! HAPPY POWDER COATING. ....
I am using Eastwood Ford Lite Blue with this method, the man is correct. It is easy and will save you a bunch of time. This makes me laugh at the people who spend all the time using a spray gun and trying to find a way to suspend the bullets with a wire in the lube grooves. It’s a waste of time. Elvis has this down, listen to him. The only thing I add, is I dunk the bullets in a cold bucket of water when they get out of the oven. The cold water prevents them from sticking to each other or the wire
Hey thanks - well explained and it worked for me. I did find for larger (8mm Mauser) bullets, it helped give a much better coat on them when I shook the bullets in the powder, let them set (stop shaking) for maybe 3 seconds and shook them again - then poured them out.
WOW. You are some kind of evil genius. I leave my bullets cool before breaking up the big stuck together wad, which you know causes damage to the paint. I've learned a lot from you. Many thanks!
hey James Weida... good saying. ... thanks for taking the time to comment! this process has helped us perfect the process. .....we're getting better. .. ; )
I have been doing this all along on my bullets. I used to powder paint and I would paint fishing jigs with it, all you had to do is heat them a little and dip them in powder, they would automatically stick the paint to them then bake. ..
Glad I found you vid. I always planed to cast after I finished all my builds. Looks like about this fall will be on the calendar. Now I will be casting and coating. Thanks much!
HEY YOU TUBE!!! Today, today! I got to say that this was an awesome video! Those are some NICE bullets! I love the lead brick wall in the background corner. This method worked awesome! I combined the Harbor Freight yellow and white and got great coverage with a color best described as Orange Creamcicle. Lol. Take that Fortune Cookie 45LC from the hot lead Zone!
Elvis... I realize you posted this over a year ago and have since made new discoveries like the low temp method. But I just did my first batch of ammo today (9mm) following this method and had really excellent results with Harbor Freight red. My only problem is that my $4 used Goodwill toaster oven can't seem to repeat temperatures accurately. My first batch was golden, my second batch not so much. But knowing I can get great results I'm sure I'll sort the temp thing out. Which is all a very long way of saying thanks for breaking so much ground in powder coating.
great info! I get good results with the shake method but I use expensive powders. I would love to go back to harbor freight colors and will try out your method this weekend.. thanks!
+TRprepper Whats up TR....Yeah i was shocked how fast this was, now im willing to give powder coating a try. before this, powder coating just seemed like a pain in the sack. hopefully you can use this method TR.
very well done! thats some great R&D on powder coating bullets, a big leap in saving time to produce a top notch product, thanks for sharing the information.
As some of your comments here mention, different powders have different qualities. I tried the bake and shake method with the temp just at the point where I could not hold them for more than 2-3 seconds, dumped them in a plastic container and shook them fast. They instantly turned into a glued ball-o-bullets. I was using a blue hotcoat from Eastwood. Very low melting temp. This method will work great as soon as I figure the perfect coating temp. P.S. love you wall of lead!
hokanut...... if you figure out the Eastwood let me know what you come up with. from the the sound of it, I would go a little cooler and maybe start with just enough power in the bowl, in and out fast and keep them moving .... pretty cool lead wall huh... ! thanks hokanut. ...
Im a noob at this but im sure i heard you mention this way of doin it in another video so I tried it on my 1st time and worked a treat thanks heaps mate
Elvis as related to the science of powdercoat, it takes a gel, flow and cure, three step process. The dry powder particles gel into a small ball with low heat, they then merge/flow with the balls of geld powder next to them. The flow covers the whole surface of the part being powder coated. The cure is the final heat cycle, locking in an even coating. Typical powder coating is electrostatically applied to gain the surface coating but the gel flow and cure still must happen. As related to the durability, powder coat contains 100% resin. If we compare to lacquer paint, that paint has been cut with a thinner which reduces the final resin amount. Based on the type of powder coat paint you start with, you may have to play with your gel temperatures to get best results. hope this helps.
Cool system. I've never seen anyone powder coat bullets in Australia as the polymer coating was developed here and we have been using it since the early 90s. This system is very clean and DIY friendly. I'll be trying it, thanks.
I am very fortunate to live close to powder coating business that sells a pound or less quantities at reasonable prices in 50 colors. Thanks for idea about heating bullets to 140 f. for 4 min. before applying powder coat. Will use your idea very soon.
hey Richard Venneman,,, you ole dumb question asker you ! : ) ... that basket I just make from hardware cloth or rabbit wire. I just cut the corners and fold it into a basket! I have about a life time supply of wire.... so ... for Christmas I will make myself another one.... : ) Thankyou for watching!!!
i use a plastic (rubbermaid container) with green air soft bbs and the harbor freight red. drop the boolits in, place lid on swirl around for 30 secs or so and get complete coverage. then off to the oven. the static electricity between the plastic bbs and the container work better than with no bbs. also i might add that it seems that the green bbs work best. not sure why (maybe plastic make up?) have you tried that method before?
Hey there preacher biggin.... yea I have used that method and it does work... I personally can't tell the difference with the bb's . not sure if the change in climate where we live or what it is .. It seems to be inconsistant. sometimes it works with a little shaken sometimes a whole lot a shaken! Thats where the preheat method was helpful to a lot of people. i have another video, using a blue powder from Eastwood. It works with a little toss around..... Thats it! This powder I think helped the rest of us that was still having problems getting it to stick! Besides, it looks great and is a great quality powder.... NOW all I need is some lead to powder coat!!!! : ) signed....Lucky dawg!!!
i used my tumbler as well. The powder just wipes up. If you dont like the rainbow on your clear cover, do what i did. I cut out a cardboard circle just a bit larger than the original cover to protect it from the powder.
hey, megadeath2metalica, glad I could help, I also have a "powder coating in half the time marathon " video you might like.... tips and tricks!!! thanks for watching!
Saw your method, I thought I need to try this. So far my method was mix the powder with acetone and use a regular spray gun. For pistol I leave the base unpainted, for rifle I paint, flip the bullet upside down and give a second coat, then the oven. My oven does not have a thermostat, so i try power 1, they where somewhere 120-125. the powder did not stick well. Next I put the power in 2, stick the thermostat I use for the lead and time how long will take to reach 150. 2 minutes. good I put the slugs I was using for the test for 2 minutes, then into the powder, shake just a little, check and they where evenly cover. So it works!! Can wait to try more tomorrow. Excuse my English, not my first language (you probably figure that out). Greetings from Uruguay amigo!!!
I tried this method a couple years ago. I found that it tended to yield inconsistent thickness of powder coat application. IMO vibratory tumbling does a much better job and is lower labor time if done correctly.
hey GunFun, yea the tumble method works good and I have pc lots of bullets with it... I had some stubborn loads with different colors that caused me to go over the edge looking for a way to complete the coating session, and that was the beginning of perfecting this method. And for me it allows less time, less equipment, less noise, neatercleaner. I been doing it this way for quite some time without going back to tumbling and I do quite a bit of shooting. and not everyone has a tumbler, this could work for them as well. either way you do it, you will have success. thanks for commenting GunFun... keep up the good work.... working together to have more gun fun!!!!
great great great.....today i produced my first .........500 piece of 9 mm............with your metod........simply great...........next step the 223 rem for my AR........... thanks for your tips
This looks like a huge advantage , less equipment, less time, but same results, what increase in diameter over cast size are you getting with this method ?Thanks for posting this information.
hey MCK, I'm glad me and Mr Cookie could help !!! it is very contagious! !! the only way to get rid of the bug now is to powdercoat. .. thanks for watching and commenting! !!
+elvis ammo lol it is contagious and reloading is therapy.. it will be fun exploring bullet styles for my single shot 44mag hunting rig, avg range of shot 50-75 yrds
THX for the video brother, I am using the Colon Guard container it works so great on me. ( if you are asking how to get it just go ask your doctor for a test and claim that you never get it )
hey nick j, ,,, now you know how much the ingots weigh, maybe you can guess how much weight is on the bench, let's just say I over built my bench : ) the method works great. ... FC did a video response to this video. .. thanks again....
Neat! First time i have heard of powder coated bullets. I am new to reloading. Currently reading the Lee modern reloading manual 2nd edition. I hope to find a 1st edition one day. All the best! John
that a good book! jstrunck.... you will like my next few videos, it really tells a story that is just now starting to make sense.. about the benefits of powder coating. no books or data on the subject! (yet) cast bullets are awesome. with powder coating their fantastic! you should check out FortuneCookie45LC channel if you haven't found him already... good guy good info! good luck to ya... hope to here from ya soon
Awesome. I've been tumbling mine, but I put the bullets in a vitamin bottle with BB's, harbor freight red, then put that in my tumbler so the powder never touches my actual tumbler. This will save me the tumbling step AND having to separate the bullets and BB's. Thanks! I'm so picky, though, I have to make sure none of my rifle bullets are touching because I don't like blank spots when you break them apart. Pistol bullets I don't worry about that with. But I shoot some of my powder coated rifle bullets up over 2000 fps
hey Toolness1... yea I know a thing or two about OCD... myself! I have another video using blue powder.. you should check it out! !! thanks for watching!
Definitely gonna try this method. But OMG, maybe a condensed version of the video? All the info I wanted could have been shown in 40 seconds. Just ironic that the main idea of the video is to save people time. lol. Great job though, thanks!
This is good. Thought about this type of thing myself ..... getting the idea from powder coating my home poured fishing jigs using pro-tec powder paint. Which I’ve done for many years. Same idea In those instructions heat jig swish in paint bake in oven. But I hadn’t tried it on bullets. Just thought about it. Glad you did this video because it confirmed my thoughts and cut out me having to experiment as much... Thanks!
Hey Elvis! Just ran across a guy in the EU who apparently watched your videos. He did a couple of things differently. Preheat same, but stated "12 to 15 minutes" for cooking time. The thing that caught my eye, though, was the ending. He went straight from the oven, and dumped the bullets into a bucket of water. Seems to work well cause he didn't have to break any bullets apart.
hey Kirk ... I have water quenched them from the oven but it didn't seem to break them apart by doing it? I'll have to try it again. .. the powdercoat that we use calls for the 20 minute cure time in the oven. ... thanks for the info....
hey Wayne.... thanks for watching and commenting I love to hear what people think, it's a great method, , let me know how ya like it..... happy powder coating! !!!!!
+elvis ammo I tried it. 45lc takes longer to heat up than the 9mm you were doing. 4 minutes at 150 and the powder coat didnt stick to the bullet at all. I will try it for about 5 or 6 minutes next time or maybe a higher temp and let you know how that works.
+Wayne Venable I go up to 230 grain , no problem. there has been a couple times when I opened the lid a little to fast and had to shake for a few more seconds. And once I dumped them on my screen already and had to go back in the bowl powder and bullets, I learned to quickly inspect when I open the lid. if the bullets are not contaminated after coming out of the mold there shouldn't be a problem. I hope by sharing some of my mistakes it will help you in the future. I also realize that not all oven temps are alike..thanks for getting back to me............
1) How many bullets can you do with one jar of powder? 2) Does sizing after the coat leave junk in the die or scrape the coating off? 3) Is it easy to size bullets that have been coated? Usually I tumble lube before sizing because a raw lead bullet is very hard to push through a sizing die because of the lack of lubrication. Thanks for the informative video! I'll probably try this sometime soon.
hey Njal.... great questions. not for sure how many bullets with 1 pound jar of powder coat, it depends on the size bullets your coating, maybe 5-8 thousand bullets. .. a lot, the sizing die stays clean with no build up at all, the bullets are never scratched at all and the bullets size very easily! Harbor freight powdercoat costs maybe 6 to 7 dollars for 16oz.... happy shooting and reloading to ya!
Gday Elvis ,I have been reloading for 40 years and going to have a go at Powder Coating. I have watched all your videos and found them very helpful and answered all my questions. I am a pistol shooter mainly . I am in Australia and limited to what powders I can get. I just ordered 1lb of Eastwood powder coating and found another brand that is sold in the USA which I can get delivered cheaper $$ wise. Can you tell me if you have heard of or have you used a brand called PRISMATIC POWDERS . If so how did you find it compared to Eastwoods. Best regards warren. P.S. Stay Home stay safe in these troubling times.
Hey mate from the US here- prismatic powders makes a good product I have seen used in wheels and other automotive applications with great results but I am not sure about ammo. What it appears he is using is sold here as Harbor Freight Tools store brand but it's definitely made in China so I'm sure if you found who makes it before it's branded to it's various markets you could acquire some locally? Idk what sort of restrictions you have there
@@accordv6er I think it is all made in China and brands are who ever imports put there name on? Seems to work well @ 100fps not so well at 1600>1800fps. .45ACP and .44mag working well with no fouling ,but in .357 Rossi leaver gun got some fouling so just staying with pistol rounds under 1000fps. Still testing ,the hammer test I am getting the same result as other powder coats do.
That looks like a great way to do powder coating. Now just got o find some small hardware cloth. I have half inch but that is way to big and 3/16 would be perfect.
Elvis, I like what you have done so far in you videos, It's really good stuff. You show that average person out there some of the ways to get started on a budget, Because of various reasons Mostly cash flow and we all need to save money these days, But that doesn't mean that with a little work we cant enjoy Shooting. Keep up the great job Dude. Dave.
thorsaxe777 , thank you so much! you really get it, I do my very best not to act like a cheap skate, And still get across how much we can do with so little cash... thanks for showing up and taking the time to comment! I appreciate ya!
ELVIS,I have been watching your video's now for a while and have learned so much, you rock! I love to learn new thing's,time is everything and cutting the time to powder coat is one less step in the process of reloading KEEP ON ROCKIN IT ELVIS!!!...
Elvis, where'd you go? Miss your videos and real world experiences you've shared with us!
so confident that he did it with a white shirt on. LIKE A BOSS.
: )
I am just getting into powder coating. I was referred to you on you tube from the fellows on the cast bullet forum. I like your videos and as soon as I compile everything I need and a spot to do I am going to tackle this. I have been casting bullets for over 40 years. Thank you greatly!
I gotta thank you Elvis, watching you I started powder coating my bullets 5 years ago and it's been a game changer. After using messy, stickey, waxy lubes for 40 years with the resulting leading in faster rounds I've seen the light. I coat 200 at a time and they come out perfect. My handguns love them and I have a Henry lever action in 357 and I have pushed the coated bullets to over 1700fps in it. After a thousand rounds or so a quick brushing and a little mineral spirits and the barrel is clean. Only problem is it's so easy I find myself shooting more and spending more money on components and time at the range and loading bench.
There is mention in the video that certain colours are not that great. Everyone seems to like Ford Light Blue. I’m new to this - is there some quality issue with certain colours?
Elvis ammo
I'm really learning alot about casting and powder coating from your channel,
Please keep up the good work and keep them videos coming.
Thank you for sharing you time and tricks it is greatly appreciated
at about the 10 min mark on baking the powder coat reach in the oven and move all the rounds around. this will prevent them from sticking to themselves or the wire. the finish product is flawless
You could jump straight to 8:00 and save some time if you want to see his new method.
I've followed your lead in putting the bullets for 4 minutes in 150 degrees amd placed the bullets on the powder coating and it's working perfectly. Thanks for everything sir. Esteban.
Great job Elvis Ammo... I've been ES coating with a PC sprayer and that wastes a lot of powder and time but produces perfect results. I'll try your method ASAP. You've helped all of us reloaders, casters and powdercoaters by testing and experimenting and sharing your info. Thank you. Keep up the great work. I just subscribed to your channel and plan on watching all of your vids. Thanks again.
mick9mm. thank you for your kind words! I'm gratified by all of the kindness and welcome that I received from this community, thanks for taking the time to comment and happy powder coating to ya brother! !!!
Thanks, That is something I will try. This process saves the leading in the barrel of my pistols, so that is some great information. And as for dragging out a video, guys like me need that so we can process all of what you are saying. Thanks for a real good job of teaching others and sharing your talent!
Tried your method of powder coating yesterday for the first time. First attempt was a total success. Thanx for your videos and keep them coming.
hey Ralph Bolda... your welcome.... and thanks for watching!!!!
Honestly I've been heating bullets slightly before the application of the powder for years now. Now I feel like an idiot for not telling people sooner. It's very effective and it does coat very evenly. Great job an excellent demonstration.
Comeback Elvis we miss your videos
5 years later we all wish Elvis would come back full time even if it's on a different platform..
God Bless Elvis and family in his current adventures...
God Bless
JDAS
Thanks for sharing! This simple preheat method makes the most sense. It reminds me of trying to stir powdered coffee creamer into cold water. It doesn't mix, it just clumps up. But once you heat up the water, it mixes as normal. Keep up the great work!
hey Alex, nice and simple! just like a hot cup of creamy coffee! ; ).... thanks for watching and commenting! !!!
Great video! Thats ballsy, white shirt while powder coating,now your just showing off!! Thanks elvis.....
thanks for noticing I was showing off!!!!! : )
Saved to my reloading playlist. Amazing job, man. Thank you.
Elvis you are the man! Thank you for sharing! This is the best method I have seen so far. I am going to try it tonight. Thank you again!
thanks Rudy....! nothing much to it..... thanks so much for letting me know how ya this system! happy powder coating to ya! !!!!!
Fantastic tip for powder coating fast. Hated trying to get the static before. Thanks a ton!!
Holy crap this is WAY easier than other methods I've seen. Will most defiantly try.
Thank you very much for all of this information. I have started powder coating my bullets for my 357 mag and your tips and tricks have helped me a lot.
Thanks Karl Jones.... Glad to help.... thanks for watching!
Boy you have a great setup. Loving that lead setup.
Thanks. I have tried the tumbler method and all I end up with is a mess... once I failed to tighten the wingnut enough. That mess was epic. Your method: genius.
Grey pilgrim, hey there, sorry about the tumbler mess! I Used to put the tumbler in another building because of the noise. this system is simple and it don't make a sound! thankya there pilgrim for commenting! !!!! HAPPY POWDER COATING. ....
dude i love how quick you did this . i will try this trick myself thanks
I am using Eastwood Ford Lite Blue with this method, the man is correct. It is easy and will save you a bunch of time. This makes me laugh at the people who spend all the time using a spray gun and trying to find a way to suspend the bullets with a wire in the lube grooves. It’s a waste of time. Elvis has this down, listen to him. The only thing I add, is I dunk the bullets in a cold bucket of water when they get out of the oven. The cold water prevents them from sticking to each other or the wire
Good work man ! Thanks for doing the research on this and then sharing with others. Those are the best looking powder coated bullets I've seen.
thanks doctorxring.... thanks for watching and commenting!
Hey thanks - well explained and it worked for me. I did find for larger (8mm Mauser) bullets, it helped give a much better coat on them when I shook the bullets in the powder, let them set (stop shaking) for maybe 3 seconds and shook them again - then poured them out.
Elvis - You Rock! Your a winner. Thank you!
thanks! Bob Hartman.....
Man that's cool,you have ton's of experience obviously!, Keep on ROCKIN it elvis ammo!!!...
Outstanding. Definite improvement on the process. Much faster than tumbling for like 30 minutes lol
WOW. You are some kind of evil genius. I leave my bullets cool before breaking up the big stuck together wad, which you know causes damage to the paint. I've learned a lot from you. Many thanks!
Thanks for the video homie. I’m just breaking in to casting and reloading. Your videos have been the biggest help. Keep it up! Thanks!
Innovation is the cure for mediocrity and drives perfection. Your process is innovative. Thanks for sharing it.
hey James Weida... good saying. ... thanks for taking the time to comment! this process has helped us perfect the process. .....we're getting better. .. ; )
Enjoyed the Video,did my first run at powder coating today after watching you.Turned out pretty good,thanks for the video
hey SNAKEDOCTOR99GT... congrats. .. it gets easier and better. .. thanks for watching!
Thanks for doing all these videos, they have been helping a lot. I'm gonna do my first PC this weekend.
Outstanding presentation Elvis, you have come up with a winner! Thanks for sharing!
thanks brother! I'm hoping people like me that love powdercoat will see that... what a time saver!
+elvis ammo too bad we live so far apart!
I have been doing this all along on my bullets. I used to powder paint and I would paint fishing jigs with it, all you had to do is heat them a little and dip them in powder, they would automatically stick the paint to them then bake.
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Glad I found you vid. I always planed to cast after I finished all my builds. Looks like about this fall will be on the calendar. Now I will be casting and coating. Thanks much!
Thanks C Bruce. .... remember reloading is like Legos , more and more! But it's FUN! happy powder coating to ya!
HEY YOU TUBE!!! Today, today! I got to say that this was an awesome video! Those are some NICE bullets! I love the lead brick wall in the background corner. This method worked awesome! I combined the Harbor Freight yellow and white and got great coverage with a color best described as Orange Creamcicle. Lol. Take that Fortune Cookie 45LC from the hot lead Zone!
Good thinking! Thanks for your insight.
Elvis... I realize you posted this over a year ago and have since made new discoveries like the low temp method. But I just did my first batch of ammo today (9mm) following this method and had really excellent results with Harbor Freight red. My only problem is that my $4 used Goodwill toaster oven can't seem to repeat temperatures accurately. My first batch was golden, my second batch not so much. But knowing I can get great results I'm sure I'll sort the temp thing out. Which is all a very long way of saying thanks for breaking so much ground in powder coating.
great info! I get good results with the shake method but I use expensive powders. I would love to go back to harbor freight colors and will try out your method this weekend.. thanks!
Thank ya, Thankyavurymuch, uh-huh. Great video Elvis! Love the "dueling powdercoaters"!! Pretty brave doing that red powder wearing white too!!!!
Great video . When do you run the through the sizer . Before or after you powder coat them
Up in New England, we call it quarter inch hardware cloth.
The fastest & best powder coating method video on YT...thanks for sharing
yeah thanks! neater cleaner faster.... thanks for commenting. ..
+boddyxpolitic Thanks for the heads up on this channel politic!
+TRprepper Whats up TR....Yeah i was shocked how fast this was, now im willing to give powder coating a try. before this, powder coating just seemed like a pain in the sack. hopefully you can use this method TR.
Going to give it a try for sure.
Elvis i followed this and bam over 2k 223 cast bullets baked n broke apart in 40 mins total beautiful coating.
very well done! thats some great R&D on powder coating bullets, a big leap in saving time to produce a top notch product, thanks for sharing the information.
thanks outwhitu08... Thanks for watching!
I like that method. Can't wait to give it a try. Thanks for sharing!
your welcome Robbie, you gonna like it... thanks for your comments! !!
As some of your comments here mention, different powders have different qualities. I tried the bake and shake method with the temp just at the point where I could not hold them for more than 2-3 seconds, dumped them in a plastic container and shook them fast. They instantly turned into a glued ball-o-bullets. I was using a blue hotcoat from Eastwood. Very low melting temp. This method will work great as soon as I figure the perfect coating temp. P.S. love you wall of lead!
hokanut...... if you figure out the Eastwood let me know what you come up with. from the the sound of it, I would go a little cooler and maybe start with just enough power in the bowl, in and out fast and keep them moving .... pretty cool lead wall huh... ! thanks hokanut. ...
Im a noob at this but im sure i heard you mention this way of doin it in another video so I tried it on my 1st time and worked a treat thanks heaps mate
That will work, thank you for the video!! What a great improvement over the other methods.
thanks for the comment Campbell, happy powder coating to ya!
Elvis as related to the science of powdercoat, it takes a gel, flow and cure, three step process. The dry powder particles gel into a small ball with low heat, they then merge/flow with the balls of geld powder next to them. The flow covers the whole surface of the part being powder coated. The cure is the final heat cycle, locking in an even coating. Typical powder coating is electrostatically applied to gain the surface coating but the gel flow and cure still must happen. As related to the durability, powder coat contains 100% resin. If we compare to lacquer paint, that paint has been cut with a thinner which reduces the final resin amount.
Based on the type of powder coat paint you start with, you may have to play with your gel temperatures to get best results. hope this helps.
Defiantly appreciate these videos. They are a little old, but still work; like me.
thanks for the info! I've been fumbling around with powder coating and tried every method, this works, got some 170gr 300blk bullets in the oven now.
hey Got Owned... check out some of my other options and methods.. too! a few other videos... thanks for commenting !!!!!
Thanks for thr tip, I do however size my bullets as a final step
Cool system. I've never seen anyone powder coat bullets in Australia as the polymer coating was developed here and we have been using it since the early 90s. This system is very clean and DIY friendly. I'll be trying it, thanks.
Hey Mick Moriarty.... Let me know how it goes for ya... Thanks for watching!
great idea man, not a fan of powdercoat but now I'll have to try!
also good work with the 223/556 cast work. subbed man
That's the quickest way to coat I've seen to date.
Love your video on powder coat Elvis I would like to get started in casting and I'm just wondering where is a good source to obtain lead thanks Robert
I am very fortunate to live close to powder coating business that sells a pound or less quantities at reasonable prices in 50 colors. Thanks for idea about heating bullets to 140 f. for 4 min. before applying powder coat. Will use your idea very soon.
I really like your method.
At 8:39 in this awesome video, where can I get a basket like that? And oh yeah, I am the one with the dumb questions.. Thanks Mr. Elvis.
hey Richard Venneman,,, you ole dumb question asker you ! : ) ... that basket I just make from hardware cloth or rabbit wire. I just cut the corners and fold it into a basket! I have about a life time supply of wire.... so ... for Christmas I will make myself another one.... : ) Thankyou for watching!!!
i use a plastic (rubbermaid container) with green air soft bbs and the harbor freight red. drop the boolits in, place lid on swirl around for 30 secs or so and get complete coverage. then off to the oven. the static electricity between the plastic bbs and the container work better than with no bbs. also i might add that it seems that the green bbs work best. not sure why (maybe plastic make up?) have you tried that method before?
Hey there preacher biggin.... yea I have used that method and it does work... I personally can't tell the difference with the bb's . not sure if the change in climate where we live or what it is .. It seems to be inconsistant. sometimes it works with a little shaken sometimes a whole lot a shaken! Thats where the preheat method was helpful to a lot of people. i have another video, using a blue powder from Eastwood. It works with a little toss around..... Thats it! This powder I think helped the rest of us that was still having problems getting it to stick! Besides, it looks great and is a great quality powder.... NOW all I need is some lead to powder coat!!!! : ) signed....Lucky dawg!!!
i used my tumbler as well. The powder just wipes up. If you dont like the rainbow on your clear cover, do what i did. I cut out a cardboard circle just a bit larger than the original cover to protect it from the powder.
hey, tvan. yea the tumbler ain't bad, that's a good idea about the rainbow! as you know I don't even use the tumbler anymore. ...
thank you for sharing this, I just about gave up on powder coating
hey, megadeath2metalica, glad I could help, I also have a "powder coating in half the time marathon " video you might like.... tips and tricks!!! thanks for watching!
thanks for the video. been reloading for many years. looking to start casting my own bullets.
I bleed cast bullets , love casting, reloading, and, powder coating. you will too.... thanks for commenting!
Saw your method, I thought I need to try this. So far my method was mix the powder with acetone and use a regular spray gun. For pistol I leave the base unpainted, for rifle I paint, flip the bullet upside down and give a second coat, then the oven. My oven does not have a thermostat, so i try power 1, they where somewhere 120-125. the powder did not stick well. Next I put the power in 2, stick the thermostat I use for the lead and time how long will take to reach 150. 2 minutes. good I put the slugs I was using for the test for 2 minutes, then into the powder, shake just a little, check and they where evenly cover. So it works!! Can wait to try more tomorrow. Excuse my English, not my first language (you probably figure that out). Greetings from Uruguay amigo!!!
hey rockyuruguay... congratulations! I'm glad you give it a try! thanks for watching, and happy powder coating!
I tried this method a couple years ago. I found that it tended to yield inconsistent thickness of powder coat application. IMO vibratory tumbling does a much better job and is lower labor time if done correctly.
hey GunFun, yea the tumble method works good and I have pc lots of bullets with it... I had some stubborn loads with different colors that caused me to go over the edge looking for a way to complete the coating session, and that was the beginning of perfecting this method. And for me it allows less time, less equipment, less noise, neatercleaner. I been doing it this way for quite some time without going back to tumbling and I do quite a bit of shooting. and not everyone has a tumbler, this could work for them as well. either way you do it, you will have success. thanks for commenting GunFun... keep up the good work.... working together to have more gun fun!!!!
Tried your method and it really works great!!!
hey Michael, man I'm so glad! thanks for letting me know. ... less equipment, less noise, less time, land less mess..... Happy powder coating! !!!
the best part I think is not the time but not making a mess of the tumbler!
Awesome job Elvis.
Makes a lot of sense Elvis.........:D
great great great.....today i produced my first .........500 piece of 9 mm............with your metod........simply great...........next step the 223 rem for my AR...........
thanks for your tips
glad to hear it max max! thanks for letting me know.......
This looks like a huge advantage , less equipment, less time, but same results, what increase in diameter over cast size are you getting with this method ?Thanks for posting this information.
I'm getting 3 or4 thousands over. approximately. . sorry I couldn't figure out if I replied to you... thanks for the interest!
I'm barely into casting and you and Fortune cookie got me wanting to powder coat thanks for sharing
hey MCK, I'm glad me and Mr Cookie could help !!! it is very contagious! !! the only way to get rid of the bug now is to powdercoat. .. thanks for watching and commenting! !!
+elvis ammo lol it is contagious and reloading is therapy.. it will be fun exploring bullet styles for my single shot 44mag hunting rig, avg range of shot 50-75 yrds
+MCK , yea that sounds like a fun rifle, you'll find some nice magnum loads...reloading is therapy!
THX for the video brother, I am using the Colon Guard container it works so great on me. ( if you are asking how to get it just go ask your doctor for a test and claim that you never get it )
That looks like a great idea for a little speed powder coating. FC would be proud. PS: that must be one strong bench to hold all those ingots!
hey nick j, ,,, now you know how much the ingots weigh, maybe you can guess how much weight is on the bench, let's just say I over built my bench : ) the method works great. ... FC did a video response to this video. .. thanks again....
Neat! First time i have heard of powder coated bullets. I am new to reloading. Currently reading the Lee modern reloading manual 2nd edition. I hope to find a 1st edition one day.
All the best!
John
that a good book! jstrunck.... you will like my next few videos, it really tells a story that is just now starting to make sense.. about the benefits of powder coating. no books or data on the subject! (yet) cast bullets are awesome. with powder coating their fantastic! you should check out FortuneCookie45LC channel if you haven't found him already... good guy good info! good luck to ya... hope to here from ya soon
Awesome. I've been tumbling mine, but I put the bullets in a vitamin bottle with BB's, harbor freight red, then put that in my tumbler so the powder never touches my actual tumbler.
This will save me the tumbling step AND having to separate the bullets and BB's. Thanks!
I'm so picky, though, I have to make sure none of my rifle bullets are touching because I don't like blank spots when you break them apart. Pistol bullets I don't worry about that with. But I shoot some of my powder coated rifle bullets up over 2000 fps
hey Toolness1... yea I know a thing or two about OCD... myself! I have another video using blue powder.. you should check it out! !! thanks for watching!
I like that I'll start doing mine that way it has been harder in the past.
Definitely gonna try this method. But OMG, maybe a condensed version of the video? All the info I wanted could have been shown in 40 seconds. Just ironic that the main idea of the video is to save people time. lol. Great job though, thanks!
hey Mark, maybe not 40 seconds. But I agree. A little long!! I'm working on that. ...thanks for taking the time to comment! and for watching. .....
This is good. Thought about this type of thing myself ..... getting the idea from powder coating my home poured fishing jigs using pro-tec powder paint. Which I’ve done for many years. Same idea In those instructions heat jig swish in paint bake in oven. But I hadn’t tried it on bullets. Just thought about it. Glad you did this video because it confirmed my thoughts and cut out me having to experiment as much... Thanks!
That dog will hunt! Thanks for sharing with us...great process.
hey treetopflier thanks for the comment! ! happy powder coating. .......
Thanks, I'll try this by next weekend. I really appreciate the effort you put into sharing this method.
Great tip.. I used it today.. I think it helps dehydrate the reuse powder also..
Nice, the whole idea is to lock in the lead so it does not foul the gun as fast this is perfect. THANKS
Off to the shop to try this. Great Ideal. I am sure 45LC will LOVE it.
thanks Archersfriend, for the comment, enjoy the powdercoat!
Hey Elvis! Just ran across a guy in the EU who apparently watched your videos. He did a couple of things differently. Preheat same, but stated "12 to 15 minutes" for cooking time. The thing that caught my eye, though, was the ending. He went straight from the oven, and dumped the bullets into a bucket of water. Seems to work well cause he didn't have to break any bullets apart.
hey Kirk ... I have water quenched them from the oven but it didn't seem to break them apart by doing it? I'll have to try it again. .. the powdercoat that we use calls for the 20 minute cure time in the oven. ... thanks for the info....
I've been using the tumbler method. I like this and I am going to do this with some 45LC bullets I just cast.
hey Wayne.... thanks for watching and commenting I love to hear what people think, it's a great method, , let me know how ya like it..... happy powder coating! !!!!!
+elvis ammo I tried it. 45lc takes longer to heat up than the 9mm you were doing. 4 minutes at 150 and the powder coat didnt stick to the bullet at all. I will try it for about 5 or 6 minutes next time or maybe a higher temp and let you know how that works.
+Wayne Venable I go up to 230 grain , no problem. there has been a couple times when I opened the lid a little to fast and had to shake for a few more seconds. And once I dumped them on my screen already and had to go back in the bowl powder and bullets, I learned to quickly inspect when I open the lid. if the bullets are not contaminated after coming out of the mold there shouldn't be a problem. I hope by sharing some of my mistakes it will help you in the future. I also realize that not all oven temps are alike..thanks for getting back to me............
+elvis ammo These were 255gr bullets cast from WW. Live and learn. I will try it again soon.
Thanks for your channel. Good stuff!
1) How many bullets can you do with one jar of powder? 2) Does sizing after the coat leave junk in the die or scrape the coating off? 3) Is it easy to size bullets that have been coated? Usually I tumble lube before sizing because a raw lead bullet is very hard to push through a sizing die because of the lack of lubrication. Thanks for the informative video! I'll probably try this sometime soon.
hey Njal.... great questions. not for sure how many bullets with 1 pound jar of powder coat, it depends on the size bullets your coating, maybe 5-8 thousand bullets. .. a lot, the sizing die stays clean with no build up at all, the bullets are never scratched at all and the bullets size very easily! Harbor freight powdercoat costs maybe 6 to 7 dollars for 16oz.... happy shooting and reloading to ya!
i like that i didn't want to get into powder coating but after seeing this I'm going to do it thanks great video.
easy breezy! !!!!!
thanks ocean 34 happy easy breezy powder coating
I tried this today and it worked great.
How fast can you shoot powder coated bullets, and can you reuse the scrap from the range.
This is absolutely fascinating elvis ammo, will do this man.
thanks ,Matt it's a great method! enjoy! thanks for taking the time to comment. ....
Gday Elvis ,I have been reloading for 40 years and going to have a go at Powder Coating. I have watched all your videos and found them very helpful and answered all my questions. I am a pistol shooter mainly . I am in Australia and limited to what powders I can get. I just ordered 1lb of Eastwood powder coating and found another brand that is sold in the USA which I can get delivered cheaper $$ wise. Can you tell me if you have heard of or have you used a brand called PRISMATIC POWDERS . If so how did you find it compared to Eastwoods. Best regards warren. P.S. Stay Home stay safe in these troubling times.
Hey mate from the US here- prismatic powders makes a good product I have seen used in wheels and other automotive applications with great results but I am not sure about ammo. What it appears he is using is sold here as Harbor Freight Tools store brand but it's definitely made in China so I'm sure if you found who makes it before it's branded to it's various markets you could acquire some locally? Idk what sort of restrictions you have there
@@accordv6er I think it is all made in China and brands are who ever imports put there name on? Seems to work well @ 100fps not so well at 1600>1800fps. .45ACP and .44mag working well with no fouling ,but in .357 Rossi leaver gun got some fouling so just staying with pistol rounds under 1000fps. Still testing ,the hammer test I am getting the same result as other powder coats do.
That looks like a great way to do powder coating. Now just got o find some small hardware cloth. I have half inch but that is way to big and 3/16 would be perfect.
yes sir chevy! thanks for taking time to comment, ,,!! happy casting and powder coating!
I remember these videos! YOU got me started Elvis. I miss you man. Hope you are doing ok buddy❤👍 Wherever you are. Peace my friend
hello elvis have you ever used glow in the dark pigment in the powder coat.
Cheap tracer, a uv laser to light them up during flight or a uv led in the magazine do it also.
Elvis, I like what you have done so far in you videos, It's really good stuff. You show that average person out there some of the ways to get started on a budget, Because of various reasons Mostly cash flow and we all need to save money these days, But that doesn't mean that with a little work we cant enjoy Shooting. Keep up the great job Dude. Dave.
thorsaxe777 , thank you so much! you really get it, I do my very best not to act like a cheap skate, And still get across how much we can do with so little cash... thanks for showing up and taking the time to comment! I appreciate ya!