I have both the Gen 2 and the Gen 3 (the one you're reviewing in this video). For anyone interested, the Gen 3 IS FAR superior to the Gen 2 even considering quality of assembly and design. The Gen 2 needed a lot of tuning up to get it to work half way, but the play in the the Gen 2 was almost unliveable. Definitely buy the Gen 3, of course this is my experience so some may disagree.
I’m hoping I’ll get lucky and win the TSPROF because it’s the only way I’ll even take a chance on sharpening any of my knives!!! With Jared’s shared knowledge of coarse!!!
Just know that a roughed up knife can be made to work very well with even just a few messy passes on a single, coarse grit stone. I have a bunch of cheaper work knives that I just keep jagged, coarse edges on and they work great. Better than sharper knives much of the time.
"of coarse" Pun intended? Good one if so. I watched a few how to fix it vids on the Xarilk. Stones aside it appears to be a great entry level sharpener. $1000 for the big boy, not for me. Maybe the Xarilk will force cheaper prices fron TSProf?
I have been into fixed angle sharpening for about 6 years. Started with a $20 table clamp type. Moved on progressively to better equipment. A few years ago settled on the KO3. My odd obsession is seeing how sharp of an edge I can get along with studying metallurgy to understand the composition of steel. I have made hundreds of thousands of pass. On I don't even know how many knives. Mostly EDC type. 95% done on the small clamp. ( Minimum) I have tried and very seriously put to the test many different styles. Except wicked edge. I will firmly guarantee you. You get what you pay for. I don't respect cloners of any type. Or their promotion. And that's what that was. Keep your sub.
Nice video and right on time. Maybe loosen the tension on the stone swap thingie. Go to your local steel recycle place. Poke in the scrap pile til you find an appropriate heavy chunk of steel. A few dabs of rubber cement and your setup will stay put and be reversible.
Just got this and quality is legit already sharpened all my knives the first day. Got extra stones from other company as theirs is plastic back that bends.
Another one that sees the slight bend. You can adjust for it, but why should you have to? Plus, depending on the bend, you could get an apple seed or hollow grind. A huge part of these designs is repeatability and those plastic plates aren't consistent. I've found the TSPROF 6 pc plate set would be a 5 compared to the plastics' 3. The PDTools Expert Pro plates I got from the USA Market link in Jareds description & they're amazing! 3 plates, 225, 650, 1100 for under $50 USD ea. There's always something better but I'd give these an 8/10.
I use L-adapters on my TSPROF Kadet Pro instead of the double clamp. They achieve the same thing, are also more flexible and cost half as much. To adjust the angle: 1. Clamp the knife with the blade as centrally as possible. 2. Select a whetstone. 3. Adjust the thickness of the whetstone on the compensator. 4. Place the whetstone on the push rod. 5. Adjust the stops on the push rod. 6. Place the whetstone on the blade. 7. Place the protractor on the push rod and set it to zero. 8. Place the protractor on the arm. 9. Select the desired angle (approx. -0.25 degrees as the angle adjusts slightly when the adjustment wheel is locked. e.g. if you want 17 degrees, set it to 16.75 degrees. After locking, it will be 17 degrees - at least that's the case with my TSPROF Kadet Pro). I mark the cutting edge with a pen so that the material removal can be better controlled during grinding.
Just as a little tip regarding the digital angle finder: There are free apps for your phone, that will do the same. Just zero it out on the knife and put it on the bar for the angle. Is it as accurate as a real angle finder? Propably not, but within 1° to sharpen your knife it works for sure. You can test it with some geometry triangle or other known angle as well.
Looks like a great alternative for those on a budget especially when compared to what's out there at the same price point. Does need a few add on pieces but yout can get then at a later date. Think better stones and at least a rubber stopper (proper size oring acting as an overtravel stop) would be first on the list of upgrades. Thanks for the great vid and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable.
I had seen these before and wanted to know more about them. I greatly value your opinion on these things. Might just have to check one out. If anyone is wondering, the sharpener and all the things you could add on might set you back for about $ 320.00.
You can get everything i mentioned without extra stones for a little under 200 or about 200. The stones will cost if you go with decent ones about 150 however you can doit piece by piece you will have what you need with system, then one month later get the parts, another months stones and you don't have to get them all at once and strop you can spread it out into a few payments that way
I just got your Misdemeanor, and I think I already found an upgrade for it. I believe the Skiff 3/16" x (12) x 1/16" will fit perfectly. The bearings you use seem to be the exact same as the Kershaw Lucha and the Skiff's mentioned above are for them. Maybe you should sell them on your store?
Wow…I’m gonna buy skiffs for a knife sitting in the living room beckoning me to open the pkg 30 something days early. My Darlin has adopted foreplay methodology from Dogeth the One. Which is cruel….i don’t have her refractory period. Mean mean mean. And that defeats the good will the holidays is supposed to create. What? Whining? I’m not whining. Sheesh. Cheers.
Yeah Neeves I run 2 rod stoppers. Before and after the heim joint. Also just use the L adapters for the oem clamps. They have allowed me to sharpen shorter blades. Also upgraded the stone holders on my Kadet. Had some close calls on the forward pass as well. Never cut myself. It that’s another decent design adaptation.
Jared, besides the obvious of fixed angle systems holding the angle for you, is there any advantages of this vs freehand? Would this benefit someone who has mastered freehand in anyway. ?
Just got my misdemeanor today and Lordy what a knife. It sings like a choir boy in church and it’s so ridiculously thin behind the edge and the blade stock. Then the belt satin dlc finish is just amazing makes it to where I don’t have to worry about the k390 rusting down here in NC. Thanks for an amazing knife. Also thanks for reviewing this knife sharpener I’m going to buy one to upgrade my cheap plastic work sharp fixed edge system.
Will the L Brackets that TSPROF sells for $28 - 30 compatible? 18:45 Much cheaper than the single bracket if they are Jared. Thanks again for all the scoop mate. ✌️
I bought the Gen 2 Xarilk system earily this year. I have been very happy with the results it produces for the price. The Gen 3 looks like they may have addressed my few complaints with the Gen 2.
You are so awesome for sharing this. It’s absolutely invaluable information for people who don’t know where to even begin with searching for a good professional knife sharpener. And I must say, technology has come a long way in the artificial diamond industry, especially for high quality precision tools, I don’t understand why they still have to have cheap stones that don’t last like the ones that come stock with this system. Regardless, this is an amazing value!
I saw this sharpener about a month ago and was considering getting it but wasn't sure if it was any good. Then CBRx posted a couple videos about it and now the master himself. Perfect timing! I kind of like the gen 2 more, it has the single clamp and rod stopper already, but probably doesn't have interchangeable parts with TSPROF. If you read this Jerad, thoughts?
I got one of these a month ago and love it. Also xarilk makes a single clamp model also. Btw, could you put a link to a website where you can get those guide arm clamps? Can’t find
Very interesting option. You said that it could hold the shorter stones but I know that the ends of the KME stones aren't beveled. Is it capable of holding the KME stones securely?
It Doesn't matter the clamp can still hold the flat sided stones, just not as good but I used to only use them in my tsprof no issues, but having the lip does make them more secure
How does this compare to the Work Sharp Pro Precision Adjust system? I'm looking to get a good fixed angle sharpening system -- cost is a secondary concern. Cost efficiency relative to overall performance is primary for me. Thanks!
My Work Sharp PPA got wore out after a decent amount of use. If you want good pro looking results get something else more sound (built better or tougher).
Curious if you actually like the design of WE. I see it as an accident waiting to happen. I dont know about waiving your arms and wrists back and forth over a blade sticking up on edge while you make it sharper. Maybe thats just me
When using the angle finder can't you just zero it behind the clamps and then set on the rod and have your angle instead of measuring two angles and adding them?
I bet if you tried it you would get the same result as the way you showed with one less step. Not that your way is very difficult but I like to keep things as simple as possible 👌@@NeevesKnives
I love my Tsprof pioneer but always said what is different price wise than their high dollar offerings. So they charge hundreds more for design? It can't be materials.
😲... come on man ! min 4:23 . whats wrong with u now ? of course the angle must be " a little different " when u rattle and move the base of the device . keeping up some kind of credibility seems to be a good idea to me when it comes to comparing products. what do u think G. ?
Clone? No, it's thievery also known as stolen intellectual property. For you to do a review of this junk, and not a "dont buy fakes stolen by thieves, support the original. TSPROF has done all the research and engineering. Lots of time(literal years) and money to fine tune there patented products." TSPROF has supported your channel I believe by sending you product and you just spit in there face. I wonder how much this crap company paid you to give a review about stolen property. So, the question is How much did your soul cost? And what if someone copied your knife but sold it for $50. 14c steal and aluminum handles. Same thing and everything......
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I have both the Gen 2 and the Gen 3 (the one you're reviewing in this video). For anyone interested, the Gen 3 IS FAR superior to the Gen 2 even considering quality of assembly and design. The Gen 2 needed a lot of tuning up to get it to work half way, but the play in the the Gen 2 was almost unliveable.
Definitely buy the Gen 3, of course this is my experience so some may disagree.
I’m hoping I’ll get lucky and win the TSPROF because it’s the only way I’ll even take a chance on sharpening any of my knives!!! With Jared’s shared knowledge of coarse!!!
Just know that a roughed up knife can be made to work very well with even just a few messy passes on a single, coarse grit stone. I have a bunch of cheaper work knives that I just keep jagged, coarse edges on and they work great. Better than sharper knives much of the time.
"of coarse" Pun intended? Good one if so.
I watched a few how to fix it vids on the Xarilk. Stones aside it appears to be a great entry level sharpener. $1000 for the big boy, not for me. Maybe the Xarilk will force cheaper prices fron TSProf?
Lol...i mostly use the bottom of a coffee cup.... might not shave an ants ass but it'll for sure clean a trout.
If you have any cheap budget knives you don't really use any more, those are perfect to practice on without damaging the ones you do use often
Don't show me this, I'm trying to master freehand.
Genuinely it's refreshing to see an unbias and honest review 🙌 Great video thanks.
I have been into fixed angle sharpening for about 6 years. Started with a $20 table clamp type. Moved on progressively to better equipment. A few years ago settled on the KO3. My odd obsession is seeing how sharp of an edge I can get along with studying metallurgy to understand the composition of steel. I have made hundreds of thousands of pass. On I don't even know how many knives. Mostly EDC type. 95% done on the small clamp. ( Minimum) I have tried and very seriously put to the test many different styles. Except wicked edge. I will firmly guarantee you. You get what you pay for. I don't respect cloners of any type. Or their promotion. And that's what that was. Keep your sub.
He just giving people other options, geez! With an honest review included!
You sound so insanely pathetic lmfao.
This might have just taken the place at the top of my Christmas list! 😂
Nice video and right on time. Maybe loosen the tension on the stone swap thingie. Go to your local steel recycle place. Poke in the scrap pile til you find an appropriate heavy chunk of steel. A few dabs of rubber cement and your setup will stay put and be reversible.
Just got this and quality is legit already sharpened all my knives the first day. Got extra stones from other company as theirs is plastic back that bends.
Another one that sees the slight bend. You can adjust for it, but why should you have to? Plus, depending on the bend, you could get an apple seed or hollow grind. A huge part of these designs is repeatability and those plastic plates aren't consistent. I've found the TSPROF 6 pc plate set would be a 5 compared to the plastics' 3. The PDTools Expert Pro plates I got from the USA Market link in Jareds description & they're amazing! 3 plates, 225, 650, 1100 for under $50 USD ea. There's always something better but I'd give these an 8/10.
I just got some aluminum back stones and no issues
I use L-adapters on my TSPROF Kadet Pro instead of the double clamp. They achieve the same thing, are also more flexible and cost half as much. To adjust the angle: 1. Clamp the knife with the blade as centrally as possible. 2. Select a whetstone. 3. Adjust the thickness of the whetstone on the compensator. 4. Place the whetstone on the push rod. 5. Adjust the stops on the push rod. 6. Place the whetstone on the blade. 7. Place the protractor on the push rod and set it to zero. 8. Place the protractor on the arm. 9. Select the desired angle (approx. -0.25 degrees as the angle adjusts slightly when the adjustment wheel is locked. e.g. if you want 17 degrees, set it to 16.75 degrees. After locking, it will be 17 degrees - at least that's the case with my TSPROF Kadet Pro). I mark the cutting edge with a pen so that the material removal can be better controlled during grinding.
Just as a little tip regarding the digital angle finder:
There are free apps for your phone, that will do the same.
Just zero it out on the knife and put it on the bar for the angle.
Is it as accurate as a real angle finder? Propably not, but within 1° to sharpen your knife it works for sure.
You can test it with some geometry triangle or other known angle as well.
Looks like a great alternative for those on a budget especially when compared to what's out there at the same price point. Does need a few add on pieces but yout can get then at a later date. Think better stones and at least a rubber stopper (proper size oring acting as an overtravel stop) would be first on the list of upgrades. Thanks for the great vid and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable.
Love your videos Jerad, don't love cloning but...
@14:35 -- finally something for which I can use all these extra C-clamps that I have.
Saw that you popped into Andrew Wilsons live earlier LOL!
I had seen these before and wanted to know more about them. I greatly value your opinion on these things. Might just have to check one out. If anyone is wondering, the sharpener and all the things you could add on might set you back for about $ 320.00.
You can get everything i mentioned without extra stones for a little under 200 or about 200. The stones will cost if you go with decent ones about 150 however you can doit piece by piece you will have what you need with system, then one month later get the parts, another months stones and you don't have to get them all at once and strop you can spread it out into a few payments that way
Thanks as always Jarod! what size rod's are they? Looks like there is a 6 or 8mm?
6mm just like the tsprof
Just ordered! I’ve always wanted a tsprof, I’ve had a work sharp guided for a while but it’s so damn small…
I just got your Misdemeanor, and I think I already found an upgrade for it. I believe the Skiff 3/16" x (12) x 1/16" will fit perfectly. The bearings you use seem to be the exact same as the Kershaw Lucha and the Skiff's mentioned above are for them. Maybe you should sell them on your store?
Yup a bunch of folks said they work great and even get more ting
Wow…I’m gonna buy skiffs for a knife sitting in the living room beckoning me to open the pkg 30 something days early. My Darlin has adopted foreplay methodology from Dogeth the One. Which is cruel….i don’t have her refractory period. Mean mean mean. And that defeats the good will the holidays is supposed to create. What? Whining? I’m not whining. Sheesh. Cheers.
Yeah Neeves I run 2 rod stoppers. Before and after the heim joint. Also just use the L adapters for the oem clamps. They have allowed me to sharpen shorter blades. Also upgraded the stone holders on my Kadet. Had some close calls on the forward pass as well. Never cut myself. It that’s another decent design adaptation.
Jared, besides the obvious of fixed angle systems holding the angle for you, is there any advantages of this vs freehand? Would this benefit someone who has mastered freehand in anyway. ?
Just got my misdemeanor today and Lordy what a knife. It sings like a choir boy in church and it’s so ridiculously thin behind the edge and the blade stock. Then the belt satin dlc finish is just amazing makes it to where I don’t have to worry about the k390 rusting down here in NC. Thanks for an amazing knife. Also thanks for reviewing this knife sharpener I’m going to buy one to upgrade my cheap plastic work sharp fixed edge system.
Will the L Brackets that TSPROF sells for $28 - 30 compatible? 18:45 Much cheaper than the single bracket if they are Jared.
Thanks again for all the scoop mate. ✌️
Jared do you happen to have the link for the rod stoppers and/or single clamp accessory that you suggested?
I bought the Gen 2 Xarilk system earily this year. I have been very happy with the results it produces for the price. The Gen 3 looks like they may have addressed my few complaints with the Gen 2.
You are so awesome for sharing this. It’s absolutely invaluable information for people who don’t know where to even begin with searching for a good professional knife sharpener. And I must say, technology has come a long way in the artificial diamond industry, especially for high quality precision tools, I don’t understand why they still have to have cheap stones that don’t last like the ones that come stock with this system. Regardless, this is an amazing value!
I saw this sharpener about a month ago and was considering getting it but wasn't sure if it was any good. Then CBRx posted a couple videos about it and now the master himself. Perfect timing!
I kind of like the gen 2 more, it has the single clamp and rod stopper already, but probably doesn't have interchangeable parts with TSPROF. If you read this Jerad, thoughts?
I got one of these a month ago and love it. Also xarilk makes a single clamp model also. Btw, could you put a link to a website where you can get those guide arm clamps? Can’t find
What about the other clamp mod he showed for sharpening smaller knives. Do you have that one or know where to get it
Very interesting option. You said that it could hold the shorter stones but I know that the ends of the KME stones aren't beveled. Is it capable of holding the KME stones securely?
It Doesn't matter the clamp can still hold the flat sided stones, just not as good but I used to only use them in my tsprof no issues, but having the lip does make them more secure
Lacey Lace told me about it back in the summer. She was impressed. I'll probably get one instead of updating my Pro PA. What's your opinion of that?
The pro is great i have it in my top 5 best sharpeners video
@NeevesKnives Thanks. I'll just get the Hapstone arm and some decent stones.
I like the Worsharp pro ..! ^^
How does this compare to the Work Sharp Pro Precision Adjust system? I'm looking to get a good fixed angle sharpening system -- cost is a secondary concern. Cost efficiency relative to overall performance is primary for me. Thanks!
Watch my top 5 best knife sharpeners if you wanna see my favorites that one's in there
This is a better buy. IMO
My Work Sharp PPA got wore out after a decent amount of use. If you want good pro looking results get something else more sound (built better or tougher).
Could you tell me or try to see if the TSPROF stone holder arm with the integrated angle finder can be attached to this system?
Curious if you actually like the design of WE. I see it as an accident waiting to happen. I dont know about waiving your arms and wrists back and forth over a blade sticking up on edge while you make it sharper. Maybe thats just me
When using the angle finder can't you just zero it behind the clamps and then set on the rod and have your angle instead of measuring two angles and adding them?
Adding the 2 is extremely easy as it's only 2 low numbers. But I'm not sure if what you said will work i got the method from tsprof a few years ago.
I bet if you tried it you would get the same result as the way you showed with one less step. Not that your way is very difficult but I like to keep things as simple as possible 👌@@NeevesKnives
I also love a bit of speed or cocaine before doing a review 😂
Chinese clone the Russian sharpener There is a clone i could like.
instead of buying that middle clamp u could probably just go home depot and get to metal plates that span across the 2 clamps
Hey Jared I can’t seem to find the stopper you mentioned, care to point me in the right direction?
If you have a 3D printer, you could print the part yourself.
Thanks bro
USA-Market EXPERT HOME SET or the 4 Atoma set? Looking to spend around $200-300 on a good starter stone set.
Their PDTools Expert Pro plates are freaking unbelievable & not expensive. Last I looked, $46 ea.!
I would personally go with the Hybrids from USA market
@@NeevesKnives KDTU HOME SET is $266... The PRO is $399 which is pushing the budget. Maybe a Black Friday sale??
Is the rod stopper the 6mm or 8mm
6mm
Christmas gift for myself lol but I’m hoping to win the tsprof giveaway lol
I love my Tsprof pioneer but always said what is different price wise than their high dollar offerings. So they charge hundreds more for design? It can't be materials.
The materials are far far superior
I think I can afford this but , I'm gonna win the TSPROF from last night 👍🙃🇺🇸
Looks like a lot of movement in the clamps. 18:18
So get a Work Sharp Precision Adjust for $60 instead… Got ya
😆 yeah if you are only sharpening small knives that are not very thick, otherwise just like many other systems you need to get upgraded parts
Seems like a deal.
I don't need any more sharpening stuff
I just want some good cheap stones :(
Dude, your knife is walking back and forth. Slow down.
It's called Speed up x 8
👍👍👍
Pt 2. Everyday..l love world even more. Thanks Doc
😲... come on man ! min 4:23 . whats wrong with u now ? of course the angle must be " a little different " when u rattle and move the base of the device . keeping up some kind of credibility seems to be a good idea to me when it comes to comparing products. what do u think G. ?
Pt3…What that knife? And what is that blue handled ax in the TS Prof contest viddy? If ya got the time to say. Cheers
Shows oos
Clone? No, it's thievery also known as stolen intellectual property. For you to do a review of this junk, and not a "dont buy fakes stolen by thieves, support the original. TSPROF has done all the research and engineering. Lots of time(literal years) and money to fine tune there patented products." TSPROF has supported your channel I believe by sending you product and you just spit in there face. I wonder how much this crap company paid you to give a review about stolen property. So, the question is How much did your soul cost? And what if someone copied your knife but sold it for $50. 14c steal and aluminum handles. Same thing and everything......
Unfortunately not available in Germany.