Dually King, Thanks for your message. I am learning my way around tires and rims. NO super fancy stuff, just feeding my brain on the basics one needs to know when doing the work themselves. Things such as Drop Center, Valve stem sizes/hole diameters, Oval vs circular, Tubeless vs Tube tires and rims, bead breaking and manual installation etc. Best regards in business and how you share with others on here. Oh and my one Dually Ford has Alcoa Aluminum rims and OLD BEAT Stock LT 235 85 R 16 tires on it. Picked up a set of USED Steel Dually rims with OVAL valve stem holes and TUBES inside Tubeless tires. Tubes were shot, and I am pretty sure I need to verify if the rims are for tube or tubeless. I was able to clean up the rust on one of the rims but didn't really see a little hump in the edge part where the bead should seat. Do all Milled rims for tubeless have this hump? or is it more of the angle and shape that does the job/?> Thanks
The concentric ring molded on the tire is there so you can visually determine the bead is properly seated or not. Great information on wrong application without proper machining. The life saved may be in your Family
2 words "THANK YOU!" The video educated me on what to do & purchase...im new in this grown man game of trucks...dont wanna make a mistake...thank you bro
I'm currently looking at buying my first dually and did not know about the rims needing to be milled. Grateful for the info. I don't need a blowout at highway speeds.
Except hes not talking about width, hes talking about stretching a 24" automotive tire bead onto a 24.5' diameter semi truck wheel. for it to fit properly the rim diameter must be reduced by 1/2'
No I'm not. They are talking about putting automotive tires on semi truck wheels to put on dually trucks. Semi wheels are 24.5 inch diameter and automotive tires are not in .5 sizes. Nothing to do with streching a to narrow tire onto a to wide rim. Read and get a clue yourself before you comment. @@MrCstone1
@@ronaldgentry9923 You have no clue what you're talking about. I'll give you some wisdom. Take a tape measure to your local rim shop and measure the diameter of a 24 passenger rim. Then goto your local semi shop and measure the diameter of a 24.5 then you might get a clue. You have no idea what it means to mill a semi rim for passenger tires.
@@duallykingindustries1297 I get this. And thank you for the info but I've got a question. I know people were milling semi truck wheels back in the early days.... The question is, do you still have to mill these wheels if you buy them new aftermarket? The (aftermarket) wheel you showed unmilled, shouldn't that already be correct to install when they made it? I'm guessing.
Not trying to throw shade or anything, but from the looks of what was shown, it just looks as if the tire wasnt mounted properly. Then on top of that, showing an example of a chrome wheel with the light glaring off of it doesn't help the situation. I am uninformed on this topic, but milled/unmilled doesn't seem like what was going on here, proper mounting of a tire should be the issue. I will be checking out other stuff to get more informed. (Edit) after reading some of the comments, I see what you are talking about pertains to putting whole size tire on half sized wheels (or vice versa). Now it all makes sense. I had to rewatch the video to see if that's what was being said, but there were no mentions of tire sizes, so I didn't know. Also this was first time on channel. Came up in recommended since I've been looking up a lot of truck stuff recently.
Been looking at wheels for my dually and NEVER even thought about this or looking for the bead seating. Much respect my brother, truth hurts but better to be known than not.
Why would anyone even sell a wheel like that? To me that's a unfinished job. I'm pretty much a perfectionist and can't stand anything that doesn't look right, not to mention the safety factor of this situation. Please keep letting people know about the safety factor of this situation. People just don't understand safety over maybe saving a couple of bucks. Thanks for your pro. opinion and keep up the great videos.
@@Bearcats737 Thanks for the reply, but that 1/2 inch just doesn't seem worth the few dollars you might save over the safety factor to me. My life and my loved ones are worth buying the right wheels done the first time, Thanks again for that reply.
@@tfjack97 I agree, the biggest thing is its hard to find tires in that .5 of an in that isnt a semi tire, if you do they are expensive, just better off to take the rim down to a more normal size and have tires that fit right.
@@tfjack97 Company's like american force, Ion , XD , fuel ect sell rims for duallys , nice ones too . The 22.5 rims and tires are made to tow heavy but the tires do not look the part. Guys usually want mud tires not semi truck tires. Milling your wheel lets you use 10 bolt semi rims and normal road tires together. I personally just bought ( fuel D740) the rims made for dually trucks and regular wheels .
You definitely spit the knowledge!! Glad I just found you about to start a dually build was wondering how they get the 22.5 rig wheels to fit? Mill it to a 22 if I understand what you can do? Keep up the awesome job!!!
good video i never herd of all this at all . i never knew a tire could go on a rim that deep just weird stuff folks do to look a certian way i guess God bless ye man
Respect the fact you keep it real and let people make their on choice. I may have missed you location. Where's your shop? I have an 02 Ford 350 dually with the 7.3
Thank you I agree 💯 theeae shops that are doing these do not realise they can be held liable for anything that happens as a result of k owling doing something unsafe!
Hi duelly King...thanks for your response on disc brakes for my 90 duelly..however I wanted what interchange from later model with disc brakes and a better gear selection with posi...I see entire rears for less than a posi..gears..disc conversion...so being that you easily have more experience I thought you might to be able to give me some direction..thanks again
I really hope this was just for demonstration purposes and that there's not people out there doing that. Maybe someone needs to understand or be taught, tire beads do not stretch. That is urban legend they flat out do not stretch. That's why there is a drop center in the wheel to mount and dismount tires. The tire doesn't actually stretch onto the wheel. If you stretch a bead it's because you broke the belts in the bead
Hi duelly King...perhaps you can give me some direction..I have a 90 Chevy two wheel drive duelly..I would like a disc brake rear ...what later years will work as far as spring mounts...thanks in advance
That reminds me of a time long ago when I had a Russian guy working for me right out of Siberia, and he with a lot of effort squeezed a 16" tire on a 16.5 rim not knowing the difference, as he I doubt ever heard of a 16.5, It didn't end well and blew up in his face, when he finally aired it up.
Are all Alcoa wheels milled from the factory I bought a 2019 f450 4x4 diesel I'm wanting to put some 195 or 22.5 alcoas but watching your videos I'm skeptical I need to hear it from the pro
Great video! Thanks. That's a good looking 3+3. I just bought a 79 C30. Wanting to static drop lower it 8/6 with a flip kit and c-notch. Would 20" rims with a low pro street tire look decent and fill up the wells alright? And would it give me enough clearance to keep anything underneath from scrubbing out like spring pockets or frame? Or would you recommend jumping up to 22 or 22.5s?
Thanks! I personally isn't a fan of 20s But depending on tire size. I think it will fill the wheel well nicely. I personally like a little more rim than tire, so I say go 22s minimum. You run our tuck wheel setup an you wont have to cut up the truck much except for the notch. I wouldn't recommend going over 5" for the front unless its gonna be bagged. Otherwise you're gonna have rubbing issues
@@duallykingindustries1297 Thanks for the reply. This is my first build. I'm getting all the info I can before I start. I wanna do it right the first time. Never hurts to ask. Thanks again.
@@duallykingindustries1297 I watched this video a while back... now I'm planning up maybe doing a slammed dually car hauler ramp truck wedge truck like the Hodges beds. I'm thinking I might just throw in a medium duty back axle and be done with it. I'm thinking a back axle like off a F450/F550 or Ram 4500/5500. Yeah I know it's big. But I'm thinking of running a stock 19.5 or 22.5. Have you seen the slammed C50 called Night Train built by CTP Concepts? The questions is this: do you know what spindle I can use up front like they did so I can run a 10 lug with no spacers in a 2x4 application up front ?
@@duallykingindustries1297 1 is in Texas 1 is in Tennessee 1 is in California....you know who they are I'm sure. They said they only mill them for insurance reasons.
@@MrCstone1 i really hope that you are not saying that you are letting a company put a tire on your vehicle and it's not the size of the wheel it's made for.
@@duallykingindustries1297 when these wheels are milled the bead is squared. The overall diameter doesn't change. ruclips.net/video/oiaztUWw5yQ/видео.htmlsi=WQ1RQ1lY7MERS1dv
The wheels are designed for semi truck, 22.5 or 24.5 semi truck tires fit them properly without modifying them , its when you try to put 22" or 24" car/light truck tires on them that they need milled to make the .5 inch smaller tire fit properly.
Finally SOUND ADVISE FROM A PROFESSIONAL !!! THANK YOU SIR !!
This video will save someone's life...ty
Does anybody know what brand rim that is ?
Nice to watch an honest expert telling the truth! Thanks for the video.
God bless u my friend!!!! More than likely you have saved several lives!!!!!!!
Dually King, Thanks for your message. I am learning my way around tires and rims. NO super fancy stuff, just feeding my brain on the basics one needs to know when doing the work themselves. Things such as Drop Center, Valve stem sizes/hole diameters, Oval vs circular, Tubeless vs Tube tires and rims, bead breaking and manual installation etc. Best regards in business and how you share with others on here. Oh and my one Dually Ford has Alcoa Aluminum rims and OLD BEAT Stock LT 235 85 R 16 tires on it. Picked up a set of USED Steel Dually rims with OVAL valve stem holes and TUBES inside Tubeless tires. Tubes were shot, and I am pretty sure I need to verify if the rims are for tube or tubeless. I was able to clean up the rust on one of the rims but didn't really see a little hump in the edge part where the bead should seat. Do all Milled rims for tubeless have this hump? or is it more of the angle and shape that does the job/?> Thanks
The concentric ring molded on the tire is there so you can visually determine the bead is properly seated or not.
Great information on wrong application without proper machining.
The life saved may be in your Family
2 words
"THANK YOU!"
The video educated me on what to do & purchase...im new in this grown man game of trucks...dont wanna make a mistake...thank you bro
Great video, I had heard the terminology "milled" vs "un-milled" but had no idea what they meant. Thank you for the great explanation!
I'm currently looking at buying my first dually and did not know about the rims needing to be milled. Grateful for the info. I don't need a blowout at highway speeds.
Chris McKinstry They only need to be milled when you’re putting semi rims on your dually
And only if you're running regular tires and not semi-tires. If you run semi-tires they don't need to be milled down.
Why would there be thumbs down when the guy is spitting facts?
They're the guys ,he's taking about🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cause they bought junk wheels
Some feel disgust about chinese rubber
People is stoopid. Thats why.
Facts mean nothing, it's all about the butt hurt opinions.
we need to see your machine that you are milling these wheels. sounds like a cool process
You heard the man, he wants to keep the "secret to himself". Help yourself bud.......😒
You are the first person to tell the truth about stretching to fit , I hate it when these rim shops sell tires knowing they ain’t the right width
Except hes not talking about width, hes talking about stretching a 24" automotive tire bead onto a 24.5' diameter semi truck wheel. for it to fit properly the rim diameter must be reduced by 1/2'
@@ronaldgentry9923 You're totally wrong. Get a clue before you comment.
No I'm not. They are talking about putting automotive tires on semi truck wheels to put on dually trucks. Semi wheels are 24.5 inch diameter and automotive tires are not in .5 sizes. Nothing to do with streching a to narrow tire onto a to wide rim. Read and get a clue yourself before you comment.
@@MrCstone1
@@ronaldgentry9923 You have no clue what you're talking about. I'll give you some wisdom. Take a tape measure to your local rim shop and measure the diameter of a 24 passenger rim. Then goto your local semi shop and measure the diameter of a 24.5 then you might get a clue. You have no idea what it means to mill a semi rim for passenger tires.
Did you actually watch the video.
@@MrCstone1
Man, I’m so glad I saw this video. You just got a follower. Good stuff
I worked in the tire and wheel business for 10 years.
Listen to this man. He speaks the truth!
So glad you made this video so people can understand why the wheels has to be milled down! REAL TALK!!!! 😎
Yea man! I felt I had to say something! But now they have a visual so they know what the deal is
@@duallykingindustries1297
I get this. And thank you for the info but I've got a question. I know people were milling semi truck wheels back in the early days....
The question is, do you still have to mill these wheels if you buy them new aftermarket?
The (aftermarket) wheel you showed unmilled, shouldn't that already be correct to install when they made it? I'm guessing.
Very educational. First time watching a video and it makes alot of sense but that itll blow faster than jimmy johns had me rolling
Thank you so much my man! Northern Minnesota.
This is crucial! Thank you so much again
Not trying to throw shade or anything, but from the looks of what was shown, it just looks as if the tire wasnt mounted properly. Then on top of that, showing an example of a chrome wheel with the light glaring off of it doesn't help the situation. I am uninformed on this topic, but milled/unmilled doesn't seem like what was going on here, proper mounting of a tire should be the issue. I will be checking out other stuff to get more informed.
(Edit) after reading some of the comments, I see what you are talking about pertains to putting whole size tire on half sized wheels (or vice versa). Now it all makes sense. I had to rewatch the video to see if that's what was being said, but there were no mentions of tire sizes, so I didn't know. Also this was first time on channel. Came up in recommended since I've been looking up a lot of truck stuff recently.
Great video. Info upfront and on point. Can't thank you enough Sir.
Great video and great advice from a PRO. Thanks Dually King for sharing your experience
Been looking at wheels for my dually and NEVER even thought about this or looking for the bead seating. Much respect my brother, truth hurts but better to be known than not.
Theres a right way to do everything and wrong, you do it right and bless you for that.
Where do you get the wheels milled at?
Finally a professional that provides facts. Thanks.
Great professional! God bless you and your business!
Why would anyone even sell a wheel like that? To me that's a unfinished job. I'm pretty much a perfectionist and can't stand anything that doesn't look right, not to mention the safety factor of this situation. Please keep letting people know about the safety factor of this situation. People just don't understand safety over maybe saving a couple of bucks. Thanks for your pro. opinion and keep up the great videos.
Because it's a semi wheel and runs either a 22.5 or 24.5 tire, that's what get when you put a normal 22 or 24in on those rims
@@Bearcats737 Thanks for the reply, but that 1/2 inch just doesn't seem worth the few dollars you might save over the safety factor to me. My life and my loved ones are worth buying the right wheels done the first time, Thanks again for that reply.
@@tfjack97 I agree, the biggest thing is its hard to find tires in that .5 of an in that isnt a semi tire, if you do they are expensive, just better off to take the rim down to a more normal size and have tires that fit right.
@@tfjack97 Company's like american force, Ion , XD , fuel ect sell rims for duallys , nice ones too . The 22.5 rims and tires are made to tow heavy but the tires do not look the part. Guys usually want mud tires not semi truck tires. Milling your wheel lets you use 10 bolt semi rims and normal road tires together. I personally just bought ( fuel D740) the rims made for dually trucks and regular wheels .
You definitely spit the knowledge!! Glad I just found you about to start a dually build was wondering how they get the 22.5 rig wheels to fit? Mill it to a 22 if I understand what you can do? Keep up the awesome job!!!
good video i never herd of all this at all . i never knew a tire could go on a rim that deep just weird stuff folks do to look a certian way i guess God bless ye man
Thank you for the vid it makes more since then not.... Please keep up the good educational vids that's what I like
This video is gold dust DK, wasn't sure about milling my Alcoa's but I have seen the light. Thank you.
So is milling taking off the safety hump/bead retaining hump? What about "bead exercising" to walk the bead over that to where it belongs?
Respect the fact you keep it real and let people make their on choice. I may have missed you location. Where's your shop? I have an 02 Ford 350 dually with the 7.3
Much appreciated! An located in Fort Wayne Indiana
@@duallykingindustries1297 just wondering if you know anyone that mills wheels I. Mississippi
Thanks for saving lives!
Great video! I'm new to this milled/unmilled wheel. They manufacture wheels both ways? How would a rookie handle it when purchasing wheels? Thanks
Thank you I agree 💯 theeae shops that are doing these do not realise they can be held liable for anything that happens as a result of k owling doing something unsafe!
Thank you for sharing the Truth!! If I were to look to purchase a set of new milled wheels, what specifically would I look for? Thanks again!
Awesome video i hope that people take note of your advice you are the man 🙋♂️🇬🇧
Thanks good info.... I'm going to be calling you soon... rolling 19.5 on dually now, going to 22's...
Thanks for showing us the difference. Know we know
Thank you for the information. Never knew this. Safety is number 1.
Awesome video friend. So many people make the mistake on un-milled combos.
Thanks for the honesty this video is really helpful
I never liked the 10 bolt rims . I bought a set of fuel D740s . I wish they made a hard compound tire that was aggressive but still towed heavy .
Dude, you crack my up while speaking the truth!
Wow!!!! Glad you made this video. Very informative
1:57 what wheels are those?
Prolly meaning turned on a lathe, not milled. But all good. Very good educational stuff for people that dont know better or wanna take short cuts
Hi duelly King...thanks for your response on disc brakes for my 90 duelly..however I wanted what interchange from later model with disc brakes and a better gear selection with posi...I see entire rears for less than a posi..gears..disc conversion...so being that you easily have more experience I thought you might to be able to give me some direction..thanks again
This man is 100% correct.
wow, really informative video. Thanks for the video!
2 different tire brands and different set up? I feel like if you used the same tires it would be different.
Thanks Dually King for clearing that up. 🤠👍
I love your videos and you always get a thumbs-up from me but man you got the Polish a camera lens :))))) (peace)
Telling it like it is, great explanation.
I'm looking for a super single rear wheel for my 89 C3500 dually build. Any information is appreciated
Great info my man, keep it going!
Thanks! Much appreciated!
@@duallykingindustries1297 hey boss how much to kill my wheels done for 22s I have all 6
@@bombspeed7270 $75 a wheel
@@duallykingindustries1297 hey bud where are you located I need mines done
Is this a must even if your using otr tires on the rims
I really hope this was just for demonstration purposes and that there's not people out there doing that. Maybe someone needs to understand or be taught, tire beads do not stretch. That is urban legend they flat out do not stretch. That's why there is a drop center in the wheel to mount and dismount tires. The tire doesn't actually stretch onto the wheel. If you stretch a bead it's because you broke the belts in the bead
(Gracias siñor) That exactly Was The problem that I saw on my wheels on my ATV that I bought on Amazon thank you again.
Good call. You would think more people would be concerned about this.
Is it just machining the lip of the rim or do you need to machine the bead area as well? Work in a machine shop and want to machine a set for myself.
Good job what is the size of the tire
I just bought my first Dually what should I be looking for to get my 22 or 24 in wheels balanced?
i subbed.. i need a set of milled down 19.5" or maybe even 22.5" for a 1980 c30.. how do i get a hold of you.. please help me
Just call the shop when you ready to place your order 812 two1two nine07six
What’s the rim and tire set up of the first one you showed the unmilled one ? Looks clean!!!!!! But needs me milled obviously
its our mega plus wheel 24''
“ My name is Cleveland brown “ haha enjoyed the video
Hi I have not found anyone that will touch a dually wheel in New Jersey is there somebody you know around here thanks
Good info for those of us that didn’t know
I just got a set of alcoas and they don't seem thick enough to mill a 1/4 inch out of it to take it to a 22
What’s the cost to have a wheel milled?
Faster than jimmy johns nam sayin. Hahahaha shit had me rolling
Got a question. I found some 24.5 wheels 6 for 650 and found a shop to mill all 6 for 450 . Is that a fair price or do you think to much? Thanks
I assume you are talking about milling semi truck wheels to fit light truck tires?
correct
that is good advice, still dont understand why the tire doesnt fit the rim tho, if it is supposed to be the same diameter.
Thanks. an its because one is cut down an the other is not
Why would they go through the trouble of cutting some big hole alcoas and not mill the bead?
Can you run a full sized 22 inch RT or MT tire on a milled wheel?
Could you explain milled wheel. What about the wheel is being milled?
the bead seat
Where can I get some wheels and tires like this?. They are sick😊
Greetings, I have a ford 350 4x4 I am going to ride alcoa 22.5 what number and brand do you recommend in all-terrain tire thanks in advance✌✌
Well spoken sir!
Taught me something.
Hi duelly King...perhaps you can give me some direction..I have a 90 Chevy two wheel drive duelly..I would like a disc brake rear ...what later years will work as far as spring mounts...thanks in advance
They make complete kits for the disc brake conversion. Most 14 bolts are interchangeable. Lugnut 4x4 makes great kits
Please let me know how much cost the ring and tires for me Chevy Silverado truck 1978 duly
What is the address
That reminds me of a time long ago when I had a Russian guy working for me right out of Siberia, and he with a lot of effort squeezed a 16" tire on a 16.5 rim not knowing the difference, as he I doubt ever heard of a 16.5, It didn't end well and blew up in his face, when he finally aired it up.
Are all Alcoa wheels milled from the factory I bought a 2019 f450 4x4 diesel I'm wanting to put some 195 or 22.5 alcoas but watching your videos I'm skeptical I need to hear it from the pro
No alcoas do not come milled from the factory. In fact, all half size wheels are not milled unless you have them machined
@@duallykingindustries1297 where can a find a decent deal on some milled 19.5 alcoa's for my truck
So is both the inner bead machined down as well as the outer lip???
Can you help me with milled wheels for my 2004 F550 (they’re 8 hole ) I need a way to run 22s
“And everything like that” 🤣
Great video! Thanks. That's a good looking 3+3. I just bought a 79 C30. Wanting to static drop lower it 8/6 with a flip kit and c-notch. Would 20" rims with a low pro street tire look decent and fill up the wells alright? And would it give me enough clearance to keep anything underneath from scrubbing out like spring pockets or frame? Or would you recommend jumping up to 22 or 22.5s?
Thanks! I personally isn't a fan of 20s But depending on tire size. I think it will fill the wheel well nicely. I personally like a little more rim than tire, so I say go 22s minimum. You run our tuck wheel setup an you wont have to cut up the truck much except for the notch. I wouldn't recommend going over 5" for the front unless its gonna be bagged. Otherwise you're gonna have rubbing issues
@@duallykingindustries1297 Thanks for the reply. This is my first build. I'm getting all the info I can before I start. I wanna do it right the first time. Never hurts to ask. Thanks again.
@@duallykingindustries1297
I watched this video a while back... now I'm planning up maybe doing a slammed dually car hauler ramp truck wedge truck like the Hodges beds. I'm thinking I might just throw in a medium duty back axle and be done with it. I'm thinking a back axle like off a F450/F550 or Ram 4500/5500. Yeah I know it's big. But I'm thinking of running a stock 19.5 or 22.5.
Have you seen the slammed C50 called Night Train built by CTP Concepts?
The questions is this: do you know what spindle I can use up front like they did so I can run a 10 lug with no spacers in a 2x4 application up front ?
Do you mill wheels? How much a wheel?
Hey man!! How the heck can I tuck in the semi
Are those wheels direct bolt on f350
Just got a free 1994 3500 Chevy dully 117k miles. It came with a property we bought
How can I get pricing and order wheels?
Thanks for the video , I definitely learned something!
Mine are just fine not milled 40k miles down. 3 major wheel places told me they didn't need milled. They were right.
Lmao well there pretty dumb to be major places an NO RESPECTABLE tire company will ever mount a 22 inch tire on a 22.5 wheel......
@@duallykingindustries1297 1 is in Texas 1 is in Tennessee 1 is in California....you know who they are I'm sure. They said they only mill them for insurance reasons.
@@MrCstone1 i really hope that you are not saying that you are letting a company put a tire on your vehicle and it's not the size of the wheel it's made for.
@@AJ-nh8ik I have my own tire machine and balancer. They slid right on.
@@duallykingindustries1297 when these wheels are milled the bead is squared. The overall diameter doesn't change.
ruclips.net/video/oiaztUWw5yQ/видео.htmlsi=WQ1RQ1lY7MERS1dv
Informative video, thank you !
Amen....great video
Thanks!
How bad of an idea would it be to run a full sized semi wheel/tire on an 02 3500 chevy?
not a bad idea at all!
@@duallykingindustries1297 my only concern is gearing and power to the ground with such a large tire
It's not seated right because you have a 24" tire on a 24.5" rim
Exactly, but thats what people are doing.
Great info... didn't know that this was a thing...
What is the reason for non-milled?
Because people are stupid, and don't care about others on the road
The wheels are designed for semi truck, 22.5 or 24.5 semi truck tires fit them properly without modifying them , its when you try to put 22" or 24" car/light truck tires on them that they need milled to make the .5 inch smaller tire fit properly.