Ian Hislop's brutal analysis of 14 years of Tory power | LBC
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Sir Robert Buckland, the Conservative's former Justice Secretary, has lost his seat, in Labour's first gain from the Tories in the General Election.
Sir Robert, who previously held Swindon South with a majority of over 6,000, lost to Labour's Heidi Alexander.
Labour won 21,676 votes, with the Conservatives second on 12,070. Reform UK were third on 6,194. This marks the first Labour gain from the Tories this evening.
Sir Robert has held the seat since 2010, before which it was a Labour constituency for several years.
He hit out at his Conservative colleagues in the wake of his loss, saying: "I've watched colleagues in the Conservative Party strike poses, write inflammatory op-eds, and say stupid things they know they have no evidence for, instead of concentrating on doing the job".
Ian Hislop provides his analysis of the 'decimation' of the Tory Party as the results come in.
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The Tories should have lost every seat in the country. That they came second is a testimony to how poorly informed a vast proportion of the country are.
First past the post where you can gain crazy number of seats with a fraction of the vote. Example lib dem Vs reform
Second im not overly surprised by, its who kept and lost their seats, never expected penny to go or them two pair of plums to keep their seats
@@amcdonald7479 First past the post has been the way of things for many decades now. It's funny that each outgoing party only complain about the voting system when they've been kicked out of office. The Lib Dems had their chance to change things when they were part of the coalition government, as did the Tories in 2015, 2017 and 2019. None of them bothered, instead they set about the boundaries of the various constituencies in their attempt to favour themselves.
Nobody gained 'crazy number of seats' with a fraction of the vote. In each constituency, the people voted for their reprsentitive in Parliament. The MP that got the most votes won the seat. That's the system. If we moved to PR we would end up with a parliament similar to that in Strasbourg where no one party has overall control, so no real progress can ever be made.
They lost every tory seat in Wales ... they had 12 and Labour had 18. Now Labour have 27 and the Tories have zero.
(Unfortunately Jeremy Punt kept his new seat - just - but at least Rees-Mogg is unemployed.)
Indeed - it's utterly incredible how many people still voted for the repellent Tories.
Goodbye Rees-Mogg. 🔔end
Highlight also liz truss
At least a bell 🔔 is useful !! 😂😂
Cuthbert Cringeworthy!
@@sarahjoines9343rhymes with under the bus!
OH YES!!!!!!
Grenfell, party gate, ppe/vip Lane, Michelle mone , boris Johnson, brexit, nhs collapse on what planet did they ever think they'd be re elected?
As much as I agree with you mate about the Tories the skeletons will soon be out the Labour cupboard: remember the expenses scandal under Labour the last time they were in…all people are equal but some are more equal than others…springs to mind.
@@asmith6647 I agree pal, I held my nose to vote labour this time
It's easier to hide behind 50 scandals than one. I might not be the biggest fan of this version of labour but the relief I feel from the public finally holding the Tory party to account and ousting them is real. Need sensible boring functioning politics again
Because it worked the last couple of times. Total complacency.
Tory plan was always get you immune to their total disasters by getting you to believe the other side was just the same, when that’s patently not true as was already listed above. Some people will always vote / sympathise with Tories even while burying their nearest and dearest unnecessarily from the latest Tory disaster!
Congratulations UK, on your liberation from the Conservatives. Bye, bye Cons!
🎉
Tories to labour nothing changes
Sunak realised that there’s no point in saving people who are unknowingly out of hate digging their own graves! Now in comes ‘poor Afghan, Syria and Iran immigrant’ sympathisers ! Rest of all can leave for Rwanda ! You all have just burned your own house fearing a caged rat unfortunately !
Yup. Agreed Next, get rid of Starmer and install someone with a moral compass.
@@dcfcdunk a WHITE compass? That's my favorite Christmas song.
Ian Hislop is a national treasure
Indeed. He should be on all political discussions.
Is he
hes the liberal uncle i always wanted
he is so underrated
Ian hislop national treasure given the chance tories would sell him of like everything else they have sold.
2:26 Andrew Marr: "Does that undermine Keir Starmer's credibility and authority...?"
I don't remember the media questioning Boris Johnson's credibility and authority when the Conservatives won 365 seats in 2019.
@@redlightmax yeah 10 minutes into the Labour government and the media have switch tactics.
Because having the majority is only a “problem” when it’s NOT a conservative party
@@yyy-875 He got about 4% more vote share, still well below 50% of the electorate. People over state how well Boris did all the time. Under a fair voting system we wouldn't of had a Tory government for the last 14 years.
You don’t remember anyone questioning Boris Johnson’s authority? Spent a few years in a cave did you?
@@yyy-875 A sign that the voters are tired of both parties
Nobody is mentioning the absolute sea-change in Scotland... although an SNP backlash was expected it wasn't expect to the decimating extent it got!
What do you mean? Everyone mentions it! It’s all over the news.
@@GarryGri I didn't expect it either. Indyref 2 is off the menu for a few years now, so long as Labour don't mess up.
Doesn't fit their scripted narrative.
@@magicalretreats4973 At that point it wasn't. It has been since.
This is a singular step in the right direction. Let's not get complacent now. Labour need to be pressured to deliver the change they have promised.
What change? Their whole campaign has been vague.
you dont think theyre actually going to do anything of worth do you?
So naive.....enjoy labour's last few years in charge....starmer will do to labour what sunak done to the cons and uk politics will move ro the right again.
Labour, better deliver, or we are not voting for them bext time.
@eKko0 nope. Labour have been a shambles since corbyn, tories implosion has taken attention away from that.
Labour will end their run in power the same as the tories are now....collapsed vote, they don't realise or care that they are just a protest vote.
I can’t believe working people have voted Reform. They really need to look up the plans Reform have for the future of worker’s rights in this country.
Those same working class people voted Tory at the last three elections. Race is more important than class for them. Anything to keep immigrants out
I personally didn't feel Reform would win 10 seats. In the end they won 4, with Nigel Farage becoming an MP. Given the state the nation is in, few people would be willing to put their trust in Reform, a political party with absolutely no track record. And so it was. Of course, now he has become an MP, we'll hear Nigel Farage sounding off like never before.
They think only brown people’s rights would be removed.
@@Brian-om2hhthey are the 3rd largest party by share of the popular vote. About 2m votes less than Tories so I would be worried if I were you
Agreed.
Decimated is bit of an undersell.
Decimation was when a Roman Legion was reduced by 1/10, where 9 men would beat the 10th to death, usually for desertion in battle.
The Tories have lost about 2/3s of their seats from 2019.
14 years of malfeasance, corruption, under investment in public services, austerity, the erosion of civil liberties, economic incompetence, and outright bonkers right-wing policies has finally had time called on it all.
Thank goodness for that!
Let's hope that Labour uses its huge majority to push through big and positive changes. This country desperately needs it.
Be careful what you wish for! I'll see you back here in 2029 fascinated for your next comment no doubt ending in ... and outright bonkers left-wing policies.
It is the 6th largest economy in the world and the 2nd largest in Europe in terms of GDP...wheres the economic incompetence?
Beginning of COVID, Sunak cleared all NHS trust debt.....kinda ignored that right? Austerity, we had just come out of the 2010 collapse and needed to bail out the banks, then Covid hit and gave us another trillion £ on our debt....
What right wing policies? Please name them.
AND NO IM NOT A TORY !!
@FireMunki63 or they could emulate Joe Biden's socialist administration which is registering record benefits in every metric month on month..
To paraphrase you not forgetting the previous 13 years of Labour malfeasance, corruption, under investment in public services, austerity, the erosion of civil liberties, economic incompetence, and outright bonkers left-wing policies has finally had time called on it all.
With what money? Do you know how much the government has to borrow each year just to pay for current public services and welfare?
And do you know yearly interest repayments? (Hint: the NHS budget is £180 billion. Defence is £54 billion. Education is £118.
Debt repayment...£122 billion. Let that sink in).
And considering we pay more tax now than since WW2, there's only one thing to do if you want more welfare and public spending...
I once saw that someone had vomited their post-pub curry & chips on top of a dog poo on the high street. Even that pavement was in a better state than the Tory party
Oh, happy to say “bye Moggs”
He’ll be running to Nanny for bitty.
Glad to see the back of that haunted pencil
Oh there will be Lord Mogg soon
Moggs....the man who supported Johnson to the hilt over lockdown but said on his show (GB NEWS)deep down he has reservations.. goodbye Jacob
@BigGol Hey, that’s insulting!
To Stephen Merchant.
One word for the Tories after 14 years, GUILTY!
This is antisemitic.
To sum up for Ian: over the top greed mixed with hubris and seasoned with incompetence
We should all formally pressure the new PM to build A statue of Ian Hislop
Not yet! Statues are usually of dead people
@@198khz2Alan Shearer has one
OK thanks, I didn't know that, not being a footie fan
The statue would be too heavy and fall down quickly.
The media have spenr a fair bit if time giving a platform to reform well above their support level. All that extra publicity pays off.
They were mostly given air time, to smear them. You’re just annoyed it’s back fired. Love them or hate them, they are comfortably the 3rd biggest party by vote share.
Why have you assumed that their vote was due to excess media attention, rather than the much more likely possibility that you underestimated their support?
Exact;y what I’ve been saying. Media is complicit in the rise of fascism in this country.
@@SimonFrack Many of those I've spoken to, particularly the younger ones, have no clue as to what they're really about. Rather like Brexit.... Well it worked once, didn't it?
@@glenm786
"They were mostly given air time, to smear them."
They smear themselves - fascists tend to do that. As to third largest party, we have - and will retain - a FPTP system which makes them irrelevant. Ultimately the Tories will tack back to the centre, just as Labour had to do after their own disastrous turn to the Left under Corbyn.
Love Hislop’s energy
And his treble chins
The tories have "LETTUCE DOWN"! HOORAY!
_Liz told her people as she left "Lettuce Leaf."_
Personally i am surprised the Tories have ended up with 120+ seats. I would have liked the Liberal democrats to have edged the Tories into second place so they could form the opposition leaving the Tories and Reform on the outside. In 2010 Labour got kicked out and rightfully especially after the Iraq war but these last 14 years the Tories have broken the UK and bad decision after bad decision have destroyed the dreams of the working class. I left secondary school in 1999 excited about my future looking forward to college and university and i had many many dreams and ideas but from the Iraq war, the banking crisis in 2008 under Labour (not their fault), the destruction of our infrastructure and NHS, Brexit and Covid and now corruption and cost of living and housing crisis I've been hit time and time again and im worse off than when i was 22 when leaving Uni. When I left uni i had £18,000 in my account and 2 jobs, also i was taking 2 foreign week holidays a year as well as 2 weekend city breaks. Fast forward to today aged 41 im in overdraft and seeing my wages and disposal income decimated. F@@k Blair and the Tories!!
How many labour controlled areas have gone bankrupt now?
Socialism has NEVER worked. Just like last time they were in Power, they'll bankrupt us again. Well done comrade
The lady I am sorry I don't know her name was correct when she said " We feel we are still sitting in it " meaning the past, that's exactly why the Tories were punished people are still living in the hard times their 14 years have caused.
The Tories lost this election, virtually all by themselves!! The public rightly have decided they have had enough of the Tory exceptionalism, incompetence & corruption. Let's hope having some adults running the show, promising to put the country ahead of party, can start to repair 14 years of damage?!
Deservedly an awful result for the Tories but Labour won by default rather than acclamation. They need to deliver if we're not to have a big swing to the far right at the next election.
Deliver what? You think they are going to reduce crime, lower government debt, or lower house prices?
Far right, give me a break, just say you don't agree with them
@@ece2178Racism UK is about as far right as you get politically in the UK..🤷♂️
@@markhepworth yeah 2016 hand book comes out again everyone I disagree with is an Austrian painter, have some actual criticism rather than a bingo card
@@ece2178 The fact you bring up “the Austrian painter” is pretty telling,why even bring that man into this?....what normal person is going to invoke him with regards to British politics..🤷♂️🤦♂️🤡
"Bad". Yes that summary works perfectly.
VERY BAD
Could listen to Ian Hislop all day 😂
4:39 he turned into a robot for a second 😂
Grease Smogg, Dizzy Lizzy Truss, Grant Papps, Penny Poundland et al...gone, all gone! 😂
But not Jenrick, Patel, Badenoch - or Braverman. One of whom could well be the next Tory leader...
@@wessexdruid7598What's the betting that Braverman defects to Reform before the end of this parliamentary session...
@@eclectica1 She'll be an albatross around the neck of any party she claims.
We've done it!!! The tories are finally gone
Red tory starmer in.
Until the austerity measure start blooming. Is it 3 trillion in debt now?
Yay, you'll get an extra 10 quid in your universal credit!
@@jake751 in your head rent-free you mean?
"we" didn't do anything. The Tories, (and world events) did it.
Labour shouldn’t support FPTP. It’s insane to keep liking something because it helped you occasionally.
I'm American, so I'm a bit out of the loop. But even here in the states, there's a general sentiment that the UK's Conservative Party is a failing party. At least, in the company I keep.
Congratulations to Labour though. Big night for them.
The company you keep has it 100% correct.
The scary part is that the Conservatives weren't far enough right for the reform voters.
I don't think it's been an issue of left-right dicotomy. I think it's been monied elites not listening to the majority, also seemly true of Labour right now.
That's because they were almost as left wing as labour. Reform aren't fat right, they're simply a right wing conservative party that wishes to protect our land and culture from being eroded. Every other country in the world has this instinct to protect its civilisation. Why can't we?
I voted Conservative last time and got Social Democrats!
@@gazfish I'm not sure Reform voters think like that. They just hear Farage promising them stuff they want. Like Boris promised them more money for the NHS. They don't ask "how" and Reform are happy to not go into any detail. Because it's all BS fantasy politics designed to gain power.
@@AbAb-th5qe I agree.
The Tories lied one too many times. They refused to move ahead and had no plan... They just coasted hoping, waiting for revelation. Until EVERYBODY lost faith in them and their indolence...
How's the betting going on when Sunak leaves for California?
First past the post and a facist party on the rise, what could go wrong. PR please Labour and make it quick.
She asked him to give a pithy answer and he said “bad”, why would you want him to expand on that?
Pleaased at Jeremy Corbyn's reelection.
Yes fantastic 👏 james obrian will be crying about that 😂😂😂
@@jake751doubt it. Not like corbyn wasn't already an MP
@@jake751 "Jobbie" (as I call him) like Starmer has put so much effort into undermining Corbyn and has epicly failed. 😁
Corbyn, a kremlin appeaser.
He has been ruining that constituency for 40+ years.
GOODBYE TORY LIAR,S 😂😂😂
Welcome Labour liars instead. Can’t wait
@@glenm786 They've not been in power for 14 years TO lie...Tory lies are actually based on something in recent history.
@@glenm786oh, dear desperation 😂😂😂😂
The biggest UK clown: Sunak is out!!! 😂😂😂😂
Having lost his job, he still won't join the breadlines, will he?
That's the thing with politicians: no accountability for the damage they cause.
@@JZsBFF agree but history will record him as one of the series of UK -PM circus of clowns. A humiliation no money can erase
But an even bigger one, Farage is in!🤮
@@jvs333 Fair enough but that magic only works with people having a conscience. Politicians don't have that shortcoming.
Biggest UK clown? Really? I would hand that joint crown to Boris and Liz Truss. Glad to see him gone, but there’s now way he was anywhere close to Boris and Liz in terms of clownism.
Not 13 seats for Reform. Just 4. Same as Greens. So no big lurch to the right then after all.
Have you looked at the vote share? Reform did really well. Farage will use this next four years to continue building support and blaming all of the bad, in the UK, on everyone else. Reform will grow and Labour are going to have to really get their skates on to improve things to stop it from growing exponentially
In terms of national vote share, Reform were third - I'd say that's quite a scary lurch.
It’s coming mate don’t worry about that..
@@asmith6647 What's coming? More shouting? Another referendum? Really not convinced that's what the British people want right now or any time soon. Reform have no real policies because they're not a real party.
4 million Reform votes. Half a million more than the Lib Dems got, and 3 million more than UKIP got in the election which precipitated the Brexit referendum. 4 million votes for what is essentially the modern rebranding of the BNP is absolutely scary.
The UK does rather "like" WWII, except an increasing number voting for the return of far right politics.
They love their nationalism
They just think no-one else should.
Well, there was a worrying trend, usually amongst the generation that came along just after the war, that it was fought to prove that the English, and not the Germans, were in fact the true master race...
(You know, the old "Two World Wars And One World Cup" attitude...)
Who’s far right?
They want a repeat but the Germans don't want in this time...
@@tomben6180most countries in Europe now.
Shocked not to see more comments on what was pretty much the very first discussion point with Ian about Labours massive seat majority versus relatively low actual voter support - FPP is such a wildly broken and undemocratic system, the fact that its at the behest of the two parties that benefit from it the most to fix it is completely insane.
Im reminded of Sideshow Bob and the rakes 😂😂😂
Why is it not Sir Ian Hislop?
Because he has some self respect.
@@django3422 Yeah we just figured that out!
Does he strike you as the kind of person who would kneel in front of a divinely chosen and unelected head of state?
@@transvestosaurus878 No he does not. If he were offered one, I think he'd tell them to do one.
He may well have been offered it, for all we know - honours are often a way the Establishment tries to mollify its antagonists.
Hislop is brilliant, this is a man that IS in touch with things!
It's disheartening to see INGSOC, I mean the Reform Party got so many votes.
FPP is inherently undemocratic. Labour need to embrace democracy, and learn to embrace other priorities - unfortunately, Starmer is not the man for that.
People should question Farage when he says Reform don't want red tape, or the government ruling our lives.
He means fewer employment rights, fewer environment standards, and fewer food standards.
I’m loving all the Tory tears
The "success" of Reform shouldn't come as any surprise. Given the total incompetence of the Tories, who else could right-leaning voters choose?
True, the only right of centre option since the Tories morphed into Social Democrats.
Really enjoyed your coverage last night. Thank you.
So glad not to see some of the MPs Tories anymore. Unfortunately David Cameron is still around as well as Boris Johnson in the hope to get the leadership of Tory party.😵💫
Anyone who knows Ian Hislop knows thats how he quite often answers questions initialily. He then elaborates and adds the nuance.
He initially expects people to be able to join the dots, but then explains for the rest.
Pretty sure loads of people put reform on the exit poll for a laugh
Brilliant analysis as always from the great Ian Hislop.
Best one so far!
Brilliant, Ian Hislop looked really happy at the Tory hammering.
All sane people are.
@@jarvis1508Quick question. Cut the benefit of hindsight out. How do you reckon Labour would have dealt with the triple blow of brexit+covid+economy if they faced it for the first time? I have a feeling Starmer is going to be Tony Blair # 2. He has already promised his "unequivocal support" to the US to maintain peace around the world.
I wish the interviewers would stay quiet when Hislop is talking.
Brilliant news I hope the Tory’s never come bk
We hope you don’t
Hi... you and me both !
They will be back if Labour don’t deliver on their promises. The only saving grace for Labour is that they cannot possibly be worse than the rotten Tories.
How many labour controlled areas have gone bankrupt now?
Socialism has NEVER worked. Just like last time they were I. Power, they'll bankrupt us again. Well done comrad.
I certainly hope this generation of Tories never comes back, but I also don't want them to replaced by Farage's mob, who would be even worse.
So now can we get the billions back of the torys for there corruption and them put in jail
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Evil is losing all over the world. And it's a wondrous thing to witness.
Wish that was true. Look at Reform's results. The same with the Right in France
@@56NeilWatsonnot only that Look at Labour’s action, their policies. This isn’t a win for us. The NHS is still gonna be privatised, austerity is gonna continue. It’s just the country is gonna be run by a millionaire Knight in a red tie rather than a billionaire in a blue one.
The far right on the rise all throughout the EU and Trump getting in next month have just passed you by then I see.
All of Europe is moving to the right. Which is wonderful because Brits will then have somewhere to flee to at least
@@56NeilWatsonThey got 4 seats...🤷♂️
One thing Starmer must not forget is that the people did not vote for Labour. They voted against the Conservatives and that is not a powerful mandate. Labour will have to do their very best to convince their voters that they deserve the trust they imagine was placed in them.
Millions of us DID vote for Labour! You are just parroting what you e heard on the telly. You can vote for your own values and standards and still be thrilled to bits the tories have gone!
@@Lynnefromlyn Strangely less people voted for Starmer this time than Corbyn last time when he lost. Strange that!
The press conference in the rain was hilarious. Just perfect
Farage is not going to be PM. He's 1 of 4... Leader of a party that could fit into a mini 🚙 😅
no, he's a right honourable member now. With the emphasis on *member* .
@@jamesrowden303In Clacton 😂😂
Look towards France right now for how that kind of thinking turns out.
One of our worst characteristics, as Brits is complacency and apathy. Reform will grow - they have a big share of the vote and remember that all the remainers in the UK are still living with the consequences of complacency
@@geemo4284 I hope not. It would be nice if one country in the world didn't vote in the fascists.
Reform seem to win alot of seats in poorer deprived areas
Populism thrives on disillusionment, these places have basically been abandoned by mainstream politics so someone who can promise anything and "tells it like it is" is going to do well.
People who are being encouraged to blame immigrants for their situation rather than huge wealth inequality caused by 14 years of Tory government.
When people are neglected, discarded from the decision making process, and left with no hope.
Enter a charismatic, smooth-talking, snake-oil salesman promising a utopian, sunny future, with nostalgic memories of a mythical past, parachuted in with gobs of media exposure, and a full campaign finance coffer...hey Presto, Clacton.
Saying the word plan 10 million times is not a plan.
As an offspring of the Windrush, those people were never going to get MY vote.
Brexit chickens are coming home to roost.
Nothing to do with Brexit. We had to endure a further Tory term, from 2019, precisely because voters believed the Conservatives were the only party that would deliver it.
Labour under idiotic Jeremy Corbyn were, to put it mildly, less than unequivocal that they'd respect the outcome of a democratic vote. Shades of Trump and 6 January.
So we've effectively now had 2 votes on Brexit - in both 2016 and 2019 - and still you people bleat.
You remind me of the SNP who still haven't got the message that the people of Scotland don't want independence. They lost a referendum. They then said if they won a majority of Scottish Parliament seats they'd take it as an instruction to seek a 2nd referendum. They didn't win a majority of seats. They then said if they won the majority of Scottish UK Parliament seats they'd take it as an instruction to seek a 2nd referendum. They in fact lost 38 seats and now only have 9 out of 70-odd.
This morning they were *still* talking about independence, and not talking about a single thing that matters to the people of Scotland.
Some people just never understand when it's over.
The Tories haven't been decimated, they're still going to be the second biggest party. Incredibly hundreds of thousands of people have seen the last 14 years and said yep, more of that please. Nothing has been fixed here, give it another 2, maybe 3 parliaments and the Tories will be back and it'll all happen again. Once again I find myself deeply disappointed in the British people come Election results morning.
Yes what does it take for British people to STOP voting against their best interests! You really couldn’t make it up!
You can't be surprised. The sheep will keep voting for the butcher.
And the only reason Labour has a landslide win is because the votes on the right has been split between Tories and reform. Only a fraction of voters (maybe 7-15%) have actual switched from right to left.
@@pansepot1490lol you think Labour, in its current form, is left? Have you looked at their policies? Their proposals for the NHS? PFIs? Labour isn’t left. Centre right at best.
It's their worst ever result and they have maybe 2 people who could lead
First impression of this video after 2 seconds: What a lot of happy faces!
I wonder if Ian thought he took a wrong turn and walked into a BBC studio considering the number of former BBC people here
Thank you Scotland for flipping from S.N.P. to Labour.
Does anyone believe there's any difference between labour and conservatives?? As a very poor 57yr working man i don't see anything improving
I really really hope you will be very pleasantly surprised and that things will start to get better for you.
@@jeremymanson1781 Hope...Change...Inclusion...is not a strategy. You've watched your country get worse since 2002 and don't even know why
Agreed. Anyone now expecting miracles, or a magic wand, could well be disappointed.
this new government has got a very difficult job because of the mess left behind but from experience labour governments in the past always make health a priority and I am hoping this will happen again, as a retired nurse labour were always best sorting out the NHS . well it was a labour man who started it after starting it in his own area in Wales and then taking nation wide
@@juliaperry2812 Other than an NHS which cannot cope with Britain's exploding population because so many don't work and pay taxes, exactly what mess has been left behind?
Oh thank goodness we've got Ian. I love him. I really do.
The right wing is still huge in the country, Bigger than Labour.
The left wing is still far bigger than the Tories. What's your point?
I was recovering from operation, just because I was self employed, universal credit showed no support, had to borrow money an recover, never vote Conservative. I'm sure labour would have more care for our country's residents
"They had a plan - no, they didn't, they just said they had a plan, and we saw that the plan had no outputs.
What happened to the report into Russian interference?
Shelia doing a bad job of remaining neutral
A new dawn has broken, has it not!
no, itll be business as usual ill bet
No it hasn't. Once all the euphoria has died down, you'll find it's all pretty much more of the same......
Reform....ahhh the joys of secret bigotry!!!
What are you talking about?
Deeply satisfactory
So Labours vote share increased by 1.6% and as aresult it gets 100% increasse in seats share. That's some cool democracy. Looking forward to doing 1.6% more work in my job and getting a 100% pay rise.
We had a referendum on voting reform and strongly voted for the status quo.
how long before evryone starts complaining about Labour
Historically it takes about 10 years for the general public to tire of one party or the other. However, for Tories it will take about a nanosecond before they start to complain. There's already some in these comments and Sir Keir isn't PM yet.
3 hours.
@@kevinsmarts9953 Or it will just take another ‘non-peaceful’ immigrant as PM, even if he is a non-believer! If ‘peaceful’ like khan, he and the party might survive
@@Truthsayer-sc9uq So no issue with immigrant Johnson who is American?
I wonder what visual difference makes you call people immigrants?
Your username is incorrect, btw
It would be useful to understand the breakdown of the type of people who voted reform. The media is assuming that all the people who voted reform would have voted conservatives if reform weren’t running. But it might not be that straightforward, it could be that a significant proportion of of reform voters would have voted labour if reform wasn’t an option and they only picked reform because they either found reform’s policies more exciting (albeit devoid of reality) or thought labour was going to win anyway, or they were worried of a “labour supermajority”. Hope somebody looks into this, because this will effect the next election.
Ian Hislop is cleverer than someone with 3 heads 😃
Make no mistake, this is an anti-Conservative vote and not a pro-Labour vote. People will soon wake up and realise what Labour are actually about.
What are they about?
Don't drown in all that copium
I think most people have got a rather dim understanding of what Labour are about. They might actually be pleasantly surprised.
well its a move in the right direction.
To be fair, the Labour Party cannot be any worse than the rotten Tories. Let’s give them a chance.
Bad 😂
Marr let it slip when he said We're going to lose a lot more!!!!
Lol, labour acting like they won, when they increased vote share by 1.6% 🤣 Meanwhile Reform got 12% of the vote....Farage unironically did more to help labour win than Starmer 🤣🤣😂
Erm, they did win! The definition of winning a UK general election is gaining an overall majority. They did that, handsomely.
@clairenoon4070 I get that nuance might be beyond you, but they didn't turn conservative voters enmass, as I said farage did more to help labour win than starmer 🤣
@@martynsmith820 Littering your posts with laughing emojis doesn't make them funny. And it certainly doesn't make them right.
I'm amused at your talking of 'nuance' but banging on about possibly one of the most un-nuanced aspects of the election - that if the right (or left) wing has its vote split, it's less likely to win a general election.
Commentators don't mention this because it comes under 'stating the bleeding obvious'!
@clairenoon4070 the nuance is that starmer didn't win so much as the conservatives lost. As I said, labour didn't turn the vote to them, people didn't actually really buy into what either labour or lib dems offered (as seen by the tiny vote increases for those parties). It was simply that 4 million people voted for farage. That would the nuance missed by you 🤷♂️
@@martynsmith820 Nope, still no nuance there!
It's as if you've not yet grasped (or perhaps only just grasped) that Labour and the Conservatives go back and forth being in power, and that there are (all other things being equal, and there not being a 'one-off' issue at play, such as 2019 and people wanting Brexit to be done) 'relatively' few seats that cause power to change hands.
This is as true for the Conservatives as it is for Labour.
Parties will obviously direct their greatest effort into these seats.
There's absolutely no revelation here!
And the winner is - None of the Above, polling 40% of the electorate, far more even that Labour
Happens in uneducated countries like the UK.
The winner is ‘fk the torrid’. It’s not as if non voters were keen to save them.
To be fair, the tories should thank the heavens that the turnout was low.
I would have preferred to vote for Brewster over all of them 😂
Morans refuse to vote. They dont deserve to complain.
"They are always trying to avoid the last disaster and walk right into the next one" ...a poignant message to counterbalance the seemingly unchallenged adage "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to re-live it". Evidence that all shallow or relative truths are dualistic and hence are able to “cut both ways”?
I’m not even English and I’ve been waiting for Ian’s comments on the election
Glad to see the far right party Reform didn't do well 🥳
4 seats 😂
Pathetic 4 seats 😂
I wouldn’t mock them just yet, 4m votes should be taken seriously! I’m not a reform voter, never would be but we need to take them seriously before it’s too late
And Greens win 4 for the first time yet the media obsessed with Reform. At some point we will learn not to give air and legitimacy to far right culture wars and feel we need to respond to every lie or divisive statement
If Reform are far-right then Britain was built by the far right and all of Europe is far-right
The nasty Jonathon Ashworth Prefect loses his seal...
Ashworth the snake!
Yes laughed my head off. Serves him right and jess Phillips nearly lost her seat only won by a few hundred votes 😂😂😂
That Yeltsin story is fantastic 😆
Ian Hislop is rapidly becoming my favourite pundit!
omg another Tory farage wins
Sunak realised that there’s no point in saving people who are unknowingly out of hate digging their own graves! Now in comes ‘poor Afghan, Syria and Iran immigrant’ sympathisers ! Rest of all can leave for Rwanda ! You all have just burned your own house fearing a caged rat unfortunately !
Fantastic results for Reform UK
@@Truthsayer-sc9uqF Jellyfish Sunak, he lost to Liz Truss. Anyone who looses to Truss has no business being PM of England
Clacton😂😂😂
@silondon9010 in alot of poorer deprived areas high uneployment but plenty of jobs out there
I'm politically neutral. But it is staggering that the new Labour government only got about 33% vote and end up with so many seats. By definition, that means 2/3rds of voters didn't want them. The system is a pantomime.
Agree
Were you staggered by 2017 or 2019?
@@thesleeplessmn 2017 was actually pretty accurate as it was largely a race between Labour and the Tories on 40% each. 2019 was a smaller win for the Tories but on a much larger share of the vote (43%). This is a completely different league of fptp fuckery.
@@thesleeplessmn yes - the system is a pantomime and doesn't represent democracy. The system transcends any political party's results - it's all a nonsense
@@thesleeplessmn absolutely - I'm politically neutral so the principle applies whoever wins with a fairly small % share of the vote
😂😂😂😂😂😂 “Not a disaster but a catastrophe”